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Date:Saturday June 7 2008
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My Spurs Squad for 2008/09
With our beloved club already spent around £21m on 2 new players before the transfew window has officially been opened, it made me think how much and who else are we realisticly going to bring in. When you look at the players we have on our books we do have a talented bunch to choose from right now. But we also have a few players who look likely to move on. Here is how I see our summer activities REALISTICLY happening.
OK so its a little football manager 08/09 but we can all have our own opinion on how we see the club going next season cant we????
First we need to re-coup some of the fees already paid out. This will be by selling 'squad' players who IMO I dont see Ramos having in his plans. These are: Name/Fee/Rumoured/ Possible interested clubs
Alnwick £1m (Championship clubs)
Gardner £2m (Stoke, QPR)
Rocha £1.5m (Benfica)
Lee £1m (PSV)
Chimbonda (Newcastle, Villa)
Stalteri £1m
Ekotto £1.5m (Possibly a move back to France)
Ghaly £2m (Just cant see the club allowing him back in the plans, just want this 'massive club' he claimed last year to come in and give us a massive fee for him)
Tainio £2m (Villa, Pompey)
Boateng £3m (IMO just hasnt shown enough and the fact Ramos wanted him at Sevilla, yet he hardly featured when JR had a closer look at him makes me think he doesnt see him as a 1st team player now)
Zokora £4m (although we all love his dance and enthusiasm for the fans, just doesn't dominate games or play consistently enough for my liking)
With 11 players gone and a rough income of £17.5m back. You would like to think Ramos would have a kitty of around £20-30m to spend left (we seem to roughly spend that most summers).
This would leave us with a 1st team squad of
GK ????? (Robbo)
DF Hutton (Gunter), Woodgate (Dawson), King (Kaboul), Bale (Gilberto)
MF Lennon (Malbranque), Modric (Jenas),VELOSO (Huddlestone), Dos Santos (O'Hara), Taraabt
ST Keane, Berba, Bent
Now I think out-field wise we are only a DM short, who I think highly of Veloso. Didnt looked fazed or outplayed in either of the Utd games in the CL last season and whenever I have seen him for Sporting or Portugal (& U21's) has always looked one of the best on the pitch. I also see a possibilty of Kaboul being loaned which would mean we would buy in another CB. However with the horrible thought that King cant play as regularly as we would all like I think he may still bring 1 in anyway and have 5 registered CB's on the books.
I am undecided on the GK but IMO it shold be between Almera and Foster. And if Robbo is sold we shold also look at Schmeical who wants to leave Man City.
The squad of 20 outfield players would also allow players such as Dervitte, Archibald-Henville, Rose, Pekhart and Bostock to be more involved in the 1st team set up with the inclusion of 7 subs allowed next season. These are probably our strongest reserve/academy players (when Bostock signs) who deserve a chance at some point.
Now if you think this is totally useless have your own opinion and see just how different we see our club next season.
Lets just hope we can be more consistent in the league and further our progress in the cups!!!
COYS!!!
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God knows what happened, I have just re posted the article (sorry about the pic matt, I couldnt be bothered to find the same pic) hope that one is OK ;-D. also sorry for anyone who posted on the origeinal the comments were lost ;-(
oxfordspur
God knows what happened, I have just re posted the article (sorry about the pic matt, I couldnt be bothered to find the same pic) hope that one is OK ;-D. also sorry for anyone who posted on the origeinal the comments were lost ;-(
oxfordspur
I think we really need to add another experienced CB to that squad Matt
CoxintheBox
I think we really need to add an another experienced CB to that squad Matt
CoxintheBox
I think we really need to add another experienced CB to that squad Matt
CoxintheBox
I think we really need to add an another experienced CB to that squad Matt
CoxintheBox
Don't know why that posted twice,no complaints about the picture from me Ox!
CoxintheBox
Don't know why that posted twice,no complaints about the picture from me Ox!
CoxintheBox
citb, somehow I dont think there will be too many complaints either ;-) as for the other exp CM, it is a tough one as ramos like great energy in the middle and that is often the first thing a older player loses, if we get king and woody fit for the main part of the season they will add so much to the team whilw bale on the left will offer greater natural width and balance.
oxfordspur
citb, somehow I dont think there will be too many complaints either ;-) as for the other exp CM, it is a tough one as ramos like great energy in the middle and that is often the first thing a older player loses, if we get king and woody fit for the main part of the season they will add so much to the team whilw bale on the left will offer greater natural width and balance.
oxfordspur
Thats the problem Ox,theres a big if about keeping those 3 players fit and as the squad is now the lack of decent cover when we're down one or more.
CoxintheBox
Thats the problem Ox,theres a big if about keeping those 3 players fit and as the squad is now the lack of decent cover when we're down one or more.
CoxintheBox
Here is the dream squad I would like to see:-
GK:- Mcgregor, Hennessy, Alnwick, RB:- Hutton, Corluka, Gunter, CB:- King, Woodgate, Dawson, Cuellar, Dervitte, LB:- Bale, Drenthe, Assou Ekotto, RW:- Bentley, Dos Santos, Taarabt, AM:- Modric, Silva, Jenas, Malbranque, DM:- Diarra, Tymoschuk, Huddlestone, O'Hara, LW:- Arshavin, Capel, Rose, St:- Berbatov, Keane, Villa, Ramos.
I know that would mean spending a hell of a lot of money, but it could be a squad to break into the Champions League, with a good mix of experience and youth.
edwhitewell
Here is the dream squad I would like to see:-
GK:- Mcgregor, Hennessy, Alnwick, RB:- Hutton, Corluka, Gunter, CB:- King, Woodgate, Dawson, Cuellar, Dervitte, LB:- Bale, Drenthe, Assou Ekotto, RW:- Bentley, Dos Santos, Taarabt, AM:- Modric, Silva, Jenas, Malbranque, DM:- Diarra, Tymoschuk, Huddlestone, O'Hara, LW:- Arshavin, Capel, Rose, St:- Berbatov, Keane, Villa, Ramos.
I know that would mean spending a hell of a lot of money, but it could be a squad to break into the Champions League, with a good mix of experience and youth.
edwhitewell
Thats a massive squad ed!We can only dream of something like that!!
CoxintheBox
Thats a massive squad ed!We can only dream of something like that!!
CoxintheBox
Honestly can't see Robinson being No. 1. Undecided whether that is totally good or not.
Adamyid
Honestly can't see Robinson being No. 1. Undecided whether that is totally good or not.
Adamyid
Veloso's price-tag: £23m
Pandy
Veloso's price-tag: £23m
Pandy
Pandy, if we assume that to be the correct valuation, would you take that over playing Hudd in th eDCM role? Personally I wouldnt, though it has to be said that velosso is curently the better of the two fot that role, I wouldnt pay 15m difference to get him. I would stick Hudd in the DCM role if one is requited and give hin until jan to see how his game advances with regular starts and a settled position.I am also concerned about the total overhaul of the first eleven that some people seem to want, will this disrupt the team as a whole, I accept it wasnt the case with man city last season but that is perhaps th eexception not the rule.
oxfordspur
Pandy, if we assume that to be the correct valuation, would you take that over playing Hudd in th eDCM role? Personally I wouldnt, though it has to be said that velosso is curently the better of the two fot that role, I wouldnt pay 15m difference to get him. I would stick Hudd in the DCM role if one is requited and give hin until jan to see how his game advances with regular starts and a settled position.I am also concerned about the total overhaul of the first eleven that some people seem to want, will this disrupt the team as a whole, I accept it wasnt the case with man city last season but that is perhaps th eexception not the rule.
oxfordspur
I know it is a massive squad but is still fifteen players in and fifteen players out, the additions are going to cost but still!
On the way out:- Robinson, Cerny, Staltieri, Chimbonda, Kaboul, Gardner, Rocha, Lee, Gilberto, Lennon, Boateng, Tainio, Zokora, Ghaly, Bent and any other player that has been chosen by Comolli.
edwhitewell
I know it is a massive squad but is still fifteen players in and fifteen players out, the additions are going to cost but still!
On the way out:- Robinson, Cerny, Staltieri, Chimbonda, Kaboul, Gardner, Rocha, Lee, Gilberto, Lennon, Boateng, Tainio, Zokora, Ghaly, Bent and any other player that has been chosen by Comolli.
edwhitewell
good enough bt robbo not a hope hes a *****in joke
glendalough yid
good enough bt robbo not a hope hes a *****in joke
glendalough yid
Good point OxfordSpur regarding the turnover of players. I don't think it's realistic to move out more than four or five players and replace them and expect a side to start the season at 100%. Fundamentally, it would seem that the majority have had enough of Robbo. Personally I think this is a shame, because he could still be a very good goalkeeper, if he gets his confidence and form back - I still blame the press and the crap we fielded in front of him early last season for this. The other position is defensive midfielder. Here I have to disagree with OS, Huddlestone isn't a DM. Zokora isn't good enough and we desperately need a world class player in this position. I think these two positions, plus the arrival of Modric ( and GDS as an impact sub ) will be enough for now. Those 4 signings plus a sale of the driftwood ( Gardener, Staleturd, Rocha, Ghaly ) would be enough for me. I think this would be better serving the club. Vive le evolution - not revolution !
jolmember
Good point OxfordSpur regarding the turnover of players. I don't think it's realistic to move out more than four or five players and replace them and expect a side to start the season at 100%. Fundamentally, it would seem that the majority have had enough of Robbo. Personally I think this is a shame, because he could still be a very good goalkeeper, if he gets his confidence and form back - I still blame the press and the crap we fielded in front of him early last season for this. The other position is defensive midfielder. Here I have to disagree with OS, Huddlestone isn't a DM. Zokora isn't good enough and we desperately need a world class player in this position. I think these two positions, plus the arrival of Modric ( and GDS as an impact sub ) will be enough for now. Those 4 signings plus a sale of the driftwood ( Gardener, Staleturd, Rocha, Ghaly ) would be enough for me. I think this would be better serving the club. Vive le evolution - not revolution !
jolmember
JM, it is always a difficult balancing act with the team, I must say that as much as I want Hudd to stay there must also be a trust that Ramos knows the way his team will play next season and there are certain styles of play that clearly dont suit Hudd, Sadly it could well be that ramos would sell Hudd and other players to build HIS team and the money recouped from sales going to rebuilding. at the end of last season I, like many other fans would have only had a small group of untouchables in the squad, like king, woodgate, hutton, bale, keane and hopefully berbatov, anyone else could leave if the price was right and Ramos feels he can do better, this probably hasnt changed, though in some cases it would be sad for many fans to see such talent go elsewhere, particularly to our rivals.
oxfordspur
JM, it is always a difficult balancing act with the team, I must say that as much as I want Hudd to stay there must also be a trust that Ramos knows the way his team will play next season and there are certain styles of play that clearly dont suit Hudd, Sadly it could well be that ramos would sell Hudd and other players to build HIS team and the money recouped from sales going to rebuilding. at the end of last season I, like many other fans would have only had a small group of untouchables in the squad, like king, woodgate, hutton, bale, keane and hopefully berbatov, anyone else could leave if the price was right and Ramos feels he can do better, this probably hasnt changed, though in some cases it would be sad for many fans to see such talent go elsewhere, particularly to our rivals.
oxfordspur
Thats why with the sqaud I have put together I know there are 11 players leaving but 3 of these are out on loan or where anyway and we would be bringing in 5. Leaving our 1st team squad of 23 with 4 youngsters from the reserves/academy to add into the mix. I know it is near enough a new MF but if Ramos played them in pre season together, and with how good players should be able to play alongside one another fairly easily.
matt..shelfsidespurs
Thats why with the sqaud I have put together I know there are 11 players leaving but 3 of these are out on loan or where anyway and we would be bringing in 5. Leaving our 1st team squad of 23 with 4 youngsters from the reserves/academy to add into the mix. I know it is near enough a new MF but if Ramos played them in pre season together, and with how good players should be able to play alongside one another fairly easily.
matt..shelfsidespurs
the midfield wont be a problem being completely changed, they played like complete strangers anyway..........
oxfordspur
the midfield wont be a problem being completely changed, they played like complete strangers anyway..........
oxfordspur
lol, agree with you there OS. I think the squad I have put together would be more realistic than those of some people on here in recent weeks. We dont need a mass overhaul, we just need a bit of a 'tidy up' and free the wage bill for more higher profile players to arrive. If not Veloso my next target would be Toulalan. I do think it is a bit unfair on Hudd talking about signing a new CM to play alongside Modric as well as Jenas but I just think we need someone who can not only spray the ball around but tackle and run the game from the CM whilst doing the 'un-noticed' side of the game
matt..shelfsidespurs
lol, agree with you there OS. I think the squad I have put together would be more realistic than those of some people on here in recent weeks. We dont need a mass overhaul, we just need a bit of a 'tidy up' and free the wage bill for more higher profile players to arrive. If not Veloso my next target would be Toulalan. I do think it is a bit unfair on Hudd talking about signing a new CM to play alongside Modric as well as Jenas but I just think we need someone who can not only spray the ball around but tackle and run the game from the CM whilst doing the 'un-noticed' side of the game
matt..shelfsidespurs
taarbt is deffently not better than jenas or huddlestone even as a winger. all he does is dribble
attwooll9
taarbt is deffently not better than jenas or huddlestone even as a winger. all he does is dribble
attwooll9
i agree with attwooll9. Besides taasrabt is probably going out on loan.
yiddo_4_life
i agree with attwooll9. Besides taasrabt is probably going out on loan.
yiddo_4_life
all we really need is a defensive midfielder, a striker (if berby leaves) and maybe a centre back if daws isn't in his first team plans.
yiddo_4_life
all we really need is a defensive midfielder, a striker (if berby leaves) and maybe a centre back if daws isn't in his first team plans.
yiddo_4_life
Veloso is a great shout, i can see maybe another midfielder then it depends on berbas decision, as to if we need another striker. Bentley would be interesting and a keeper (two if robbo goes)
ajm142003
Veloso is a great shout, i can see maybe another midfielder then it depends on berbas decision, as to if we need another striker. Bentley would be interesting and a keeper (two if robbo goes)
ajm142003
a huge turnover in the starting 11 is not a good idea but realistically you could be looking at a max of 4 new players starting.
GK(new), RB hutton CB King CB Woody LB Bale,
RW Lennon, CM (new/modric), CM Hudd, LW (new/Dos santos)
ST Keane ST Berba
regarding berba stays he will start and if lennon doesnt get swapped for bentley which i hope he does he will start. so lots of additions to the squad is not going to mean to many changes in our starting 11. Although conceding goals was our big issue last year it doesnt really look like we actually need to strengthen our back line except in goal.
Glad dos santos is signed tho, the lad looks special and a natural left footer we need him
COYS
wrexham_spur
a huge turnover in the starting 11 is not a good idea but realistically you could be looking at a max of 4 new players starting.
GK(new), RB hutton CB King CB Woody LB Bale,
RW Lennon, CM (new/modric), CM Hudd, LW (new/Dos santos)
ST Keane ST Berba
regarding berba stays he will start and if lennon doesnt get swapped for bentley which i hope he does he will start. so lots of additions to the squad is not going to mean to many changes in our starting 11. Although conceding goals was our big issue last year it doesnt really look like we actually need to strengthen our back line except in goal.
Glad dos santos is signed tho, the lad looks special and a natural left footer we need him
COYS
wrexham_spur
We still need a GK, DMF and a CB and if the sulk leaves a striker.
Frank
We still need a GK, DMF and a CB and if the sulk leaves a striker.
Frank
a completely new squad is bad but a major cull is OK as long as they get them early enough so get pre-season training. A major cull will get rid of the bad mental attictude that plagues us. H
heatheris1
a completely new squad is bad but a major cull is OK as long as they get them early enough so get pre-season training. A major cull will get rid of the bad mental attictude that plagues us. H
heatheris1
some of you can be so unrealistic at times.no one knows ramos's plans so how can you be a judge of what ramos really wants to do.much more prefer the realists on this site.i have been shocked by the players we are attracting and its great loving every minute of it but there is so much more to a player transfer.some people on here play too much football manager.i am one that belives we do need a whole new midfield but to keep are players we have now as back up if they are willing to stay as that.how do we know lennon will go to blackburn as a swap for bentley.lennon was fussy over moving to london and was homesick but now he is settled in the capital will he really want to move to somewhere like blackburn i know i wouldnt.its gonna take a year for all the players to gel so hopefully we have good season next year but lets not get ahead of ourselves.my 1st team for next year hart,hutton,woody,king,blae/gilberto,lennon/bentley,veloso if its possible,modric,capel/bale/giovani,keane,berbatov/giovani.would like to see maybe someone better than bentley a shock transfer but would also like to keep the british core as much as possible coz is alwasy good to use against arsenal fans who like to gloat about there european team.
jako
some of you can be so unrealistic at times.no one knows ramos's plans so how can you be a judge of what ramos really wants to do.much more prefer the realists on this site.i have been shocked by the players we are attracting and its great loving every minute of it but there is so much more to a player transfer.some people on here play too much football manager.i am one that belives we do need a whole new midfield but to keep are players we have now as back up if they are willing to stay as that.how do we know lennon will go to blackburn as a swap for bentley.lennon was fussy over moving to london and was homesick but now he is settled in the capital will he really want to move to somewhere like blackburn i know i wouldnt.its gonna take a year for all the players to gel so hopefully we have good season next year but lets not get ahead of ourselves.my 1st team for next year hart,hutton,woody,king,blae/gilberto,lennon/bentley,veloso if its possible,modric,capel/bale/giovani,keane,berbatov/giovani.would like to see maybe someone better than bentley a shock transfer but would also like to keep the british core as much as possible coz is alwasy good to use against arsenal fans who like to gloat about there european team.
jako
All the talk seems to be of more experimenting, let's see and give it a try. Now I think (know) MJ did come to a door with no keyhole to open but it again comes down to consistancy - we need consistancy in the hotseat before we get it on the pitch - we can talk about getting kaka and Ronaldo etc but we need the hotseat secured, by that I want this God of a manager, tactician, coach and I don't suffer fools Mr. Juande Ramos tied down to this club even when he is on his deathbed
YiddoNick
All the talk seems to be of more experimenting, let's see and give it a try. Now I think (know) MJ did come to a door with no keyhole to open but it again comes down to consistancy - we need consistancy in the hotseat before we get it on the pitch - we can talk about getting kaka and Ronaldo etc but we need the hotseat secured, by that I want this God of a manager, tactician, coach and I don't suffer fools Mr. Juande Ramos tied down to this club even when he is on his deathbed
YiddoNick
ottenham is close to being very good. all they need is chemistry and zokora replaced.
attwooll9
ottenham is close to being very good. all they need is chemistry and zokora replaced.
attwooll9
swap lennon and malbranque!
benblinkau
swap lennon and malbranque!
benblinkau
w will def be spoiled for choices no matter what formation he picks alosi bet there will be another two signing an some to leave
123spurs
w will def be spoiled for choices no matter what formation he picks alosi bet there will be another two signing an some to leave
123spurs
We all know whom we want to leave. The question is - are they marketable? Ever wondered why we've been stuck with Gardner, Stalteri and Ghaly, for instance, for so long? Instead, we get knocks on the door for Berbatov, Huddlestone, Lennon, etc. These are the marketable players whom other clubs perceive as being unhappy or unsettled at Spurs. The transfer market is precisely that - a market - and a very complex one. There's a lot more to it than just getting rid of players we don't want and buying players we want.
hiano
We all know whom we want to leave. The question is - are they marketable? Ever wondered why we've been stuck with Gardner, Stalteri and Ghaly, for instance, for so long? Instead, we get knocks on the door for Berbatov, Huddlestone, Lennon, etc. These are the marketable players whom other clubs perceive as being unhappy or unsettled at Spurs. The transfer market is precisely that - a market - and a very complex one. There's a lot more to it than just getting rid of players we don't want and buying players we want.
hiano
I get completely annoyed with people on here who say stuff like "...and anyone signed by Comolli" as if they know which players are signed by the man and which are not. Comolli handles everything on that side, and Levy only comes in to close the deal if the player wavers. So Comolli effectively handles EVERYTHING to do with transfers. But those who hate him simply for hates' sake just don't (or want to) see that.
To come back down to earth for a minute, I agree with those who say that we only need at most four new players depending on the Berba situation: Two goalkeepers, a defender and a defensive midfielder. Maybe a striker too because I want Berba gone - don't want this circus around him again next season. Miguel Veloso is unrealistic in that I expect him to want Champions League and Arse seem prepared to offer £24million for him. I don't know of any other targets we're after in that role however...
Othello
I get completely annoyed with people on here who say stuff like "...and anyone signed by Comolli" as if they know which players are signed by the man and which are not. Comolli handles everything on that side, and Levy only comes in to close the deal if the player wavers. So Comolli effectively handles EVERYTHING to do with transfers. But those who hate him simply for hates' sake just don't (or want to) see that.
To come back down to earth for a minute, I agree with those who say that we only need at most four new players depending on the Berba situation: Two goalkeepers, a defender and a defensive midfielder. Maybe a striker too because I want Berba gone - don't want this circus around him again next season. Miguel Veloso is unrealistic in that I expect him to want Champions League and Arse seem prepared to offer £24million for him. I don't know of any other targets we're after in that role however...
Othello
if robbo loses a stone and a half he'll be back at his best again, i think kABOULS PROBLEM with ramos is dietry (got caught in macDs scoffing burgers at midnight then got dropped) but i would like to see him and huddlestone vying for the the 2 positions of dm ans cb, other dm options could be ohara, personally a better defender than attacker (our phlemini) imo, loves the team too much not to give 120%, bet you all 3(if they are still with us) play in that role during preseason, kpb also another option however, his problem is (if huddlestone has a lack of bite in his challenge) kpb slides in like his tackle got lock jaw
Dram
if robbo loses a stone and a half he'll be back at his best again, i think kABOULS PROBLEM with ramos is dietry (got caught in macDs scoffing burgers at midnight then got dropped) but i would like to see him and huddlestone vying for the the 2 positions of dm ans cb, other dm options could be ohara, personally a better defender than attacker (our phlemini) imo, loves the team too much not to give 120%, bet you all 3(if they are still with us) play in that role during preseason, kpb also another option however, his problem is (if huddlestone has a lack of bite in his challenge) kpb slides in like his tackle got lock jaw
Dram
This article in about 5 weeks time will be interesting. Hopefully by then we will know the future of Berbatov and also what the strength through the spine of the team looks like. I personally think it is too early to predict our starting squad let alone team. I am enthused by the signs that some if not all of the deadwood will be gone which will give more opportunities for the youngsters. I'm also happy with the signings of Modric, Dos Santos and Bostock - these are the right type of players to play the Tottenham way. If Berbatov leaves we will still need 4 more players - keeper, centre half, ball winning centre midfielder and a 30 goal a season striker.
muttley
This article in about 5 weeks time will be interesting. Hopefully by then we will know the future of Berbatov and also what the strength through the spine of the team looks like. I personally think it is too early to predict our starting squad let alone team. I am enthused by the signs that some if not all of the deadwood will be gone which will give more opportunities for the youngsters. I'm also happy with the signings of Modric, Dos Santos and Bostock - these are the right type of players to play the Tottenham way. If Berbatov leaves we will still need 4 more players - keeper, centre half, ball winning centre midfielder and a 30 goal a season striker.
muttley
Agree with a lot of what has been said. I believe an indication of JR's vision lies with his Sevilla team of 2006-07 - strong central defence/keeper; highly mobile full backs & midfield and quick-passing attack. All in a very flexible 4-3-3/4-5-1.
With Modric & GDS he has injected the flair into midfield, but we defo still need the DM that sits, breaks up & then gets things moving.
Diarra would be excellent at the right price, Veloso would be fantastic but probably has CL designs.
It isn't Zokora (just not good enough) nor Hudd (too slow), but - and please don't shoot me here - what about KPB in that role?
As with Kaboul, the guy has never really had a chance to date, but he is strong, mobile and with decent distribution.
Even if not the 1st choice, how about developing the guy as a stand-in for the new main man?
Just a thought...
KingGlenn
Agree with a lot of what has been said. I believe an indication of JR's vision lies with his Sevilla team of 2006-07 - strong central defence/keeper; highly mobile full backs & midfield and quick-passing attack. All in a very flexible 4-3-3/4-5-1.
With Modric & GDS he has injected the flair into midfield, but we defo still need the DM that sits, breaks up & then gets things moving.
Diarra would be excellent at the right price, Veloso would be fantastic but probably has CL designs.
It isn't Zokora (just not good enough) nor Hudd (too slow), but - and please don't shoot me here - what about KPB in that role?
As with Kaboul, the guy has never really had a chance to date, but he is strong, mobile and with decent distribution.
Even if not the 1st choice, how about developing the guy as a stand-in for the new main man?
Just a thought...
KingGlenn
I say we need 6/7 more players. 2 Goalkeepers (assuming Robinson won't play second fiddle), CB (assuming King is basically finished), the key DM player, RW (one that can cross and shoot) and 1 or 2 strikers (1 assuming Ramos promotes pekhart). We didn't replace Defoe and I'm pretty sure Berbatov will go to Manure once Ronaldo has gone to Madrid. To fund all of this we're obviously going to have to upset a few fans of the underachievers and sell players like Zokora, Jenas, Lennon, Malbranque, Huddlestone along with the obvious motley crew, Gardner, Stalteri and so on. I know it seems a bit drastic, but as hiano wrote, it's all about marketability. Heatheris1 hinted at the poor mental attitude of the team and I would agree. Again, I know the almost complete change in personnel appears drastic, but it's exactly what is needed to ensure the team is rid of the mental and physical deficiencies that have plagued it over the last 2 or 3 seasons. After we won the Carling Cup, Ramos made it clear to all not to let the season fizzle out. They did the exact opposite, even when told the were playing for their futures. I hope Ramos is a man of his word. The bloke, if reports are to believed, is on 6mill a year and has probably been told to get Spurs in the CL if not next season then the one after. He hasn't got the time to stick with the players that let him down last season. Some of you say give them until January, I say no, they've had their chance and they weren't up to it. Bring on Ramos' ruthless revolution!
Scottspur
I say we need 6/7 more players. 2 Goalkeepers (assuming Robinson won't play second fiddle), CB (assuming King is basically finished), the key DM player, RW (one that can cross and shoot) and 1 or 2 strikers (1 assuming Ramos promotes pekhart). We didn't replace Defoe and I'm pretty sure Berbatov will go to Manure once Ronaldo has gone to Madrid. To fund all of this we're obviously going to have to upset a few fans of the underachievers and sell players like Zokora, Jenas, Lennon, Malbranque, Huddlestone along with the obvious motley crew, Gardner, Stalteri and so on. I know it seems a bit drastic, but as hiano wrote, it's all about marketability. Heatheris1 hinted at the poor mental attitude of the team and I would agree. Again, I know the almost complete change in personnel appears drastic, but it's exactly what is needed to ensure the team is rid of the mental and physical deficiencies that have plagued it over the last 2 or 3 seasons. After we won the Carling Cup, Ramos made it clear to all not to let the season fizzle out. They did the exact opposite, even when told the were playing for their futures. I hope Ramos is a man of his word. The bloke, if reports are to believed, is on 6mill a year and has probably been told to get Spurs in the CL if not next season then the one after. He hasn't got the time to stick with the players that let him down last season. Some of you say give them until January, I say no, they've had their chance and they weren't up to it. Bring on Ramos' ruthless revolution!
Scottspur
Well said Scottspur, apart from needing 6/7 new signings. I think we'll need two new keepers (Coupet and Hart). One new centre-half (it looks like it will be A.Ferdinand). And, finally one DM (Diarra/Veloso/Toulalan). If Berba leaves, then one new striker (Huntelaar/Gomez/Milito)
BrooksySpurs
Well said Scottspur, apart from needing 6/7 new signings. I think we'll need two new keepers (Coupet and Hart). One new centre-half (it looks like it will be A.Ferdinand). And, finally one DM (Diarra/Veloso/Toulalan). If Berba leaves, then one new striker (Huntelaar/Gomez/Milito)
BrooksySpurs
from what my dad tells me he thinks david ginola and there is wuite alot of similarity between them......but he needs time maybe our good friends at millwall would oblige with maybe a 6 months loan.....and i dunno why are we buying a new centre-back....give troy(archi-henville) a chance will you.....commanding 6 feet tall....captain of the reserves......future ledley king yeah.....
roni_spurs
from what my dad tells me he thinks david ginola and there is wuite alot of similarity between them......but he needs time maybe our good friends at millwall would oblige with maybe a 6 months loan.....and i dunno why are we buying a new centre-back....give troy(archi-henville) a chance will you.....commanding 6 feet tall....captain of the reserves......future ledley king yeah.....
roni_spurs
Brooksy , I guess you're only differing with me on the RW position. Lennon, at this moment in time, isn't good enough. For a team to challenge for a top 4 spot it's essential that your wingers can cross. As I've said umpteen times now, the first team is not the place for players to learn basic skills. Please, no one suggest Jenas on the right either.
Scottspur
Brooksy , I guess you're only differing with me on the RW position. Lennon, at this moment in time, isn't good enough. For a team to challenge for a top 4 spot it's essential that your wingers can cross. As I've said umpteen times now, the first team is not the place for players to learn basic skills. Please, no one suggest Jenas on the right either.
Scottspur
KingGlen i agree with your post, Ramos's vision is definately based on the Sevilla model, i also agree with you on Diarra, i think there may be something in him not coming to us last season due to the Arsenal connection, & now with cash + players we might get him. I am also with you regarding both KPB & Kaboul, i reckon both of them are worthy of another chance in the 1st team
Aussie'spur
KingGlen i agree with your post, Ramos's vision is definately based on the Sevilla model, i also agree with you on Diarra, i think there may be something in him not coming to us last season due to the Arsenal connection, & now with cash + players we might get him. I am also with you regarding both KPB & Kaboul, i reckon both of them are worthy of another chance in the 1st team
Aussie'spur
roni, I'm sorry mate, but I've no idea what you're on about. Ginola?
Scottspur
roni, I'm sorry mate, but I've no idea what you're on about. Ginola?
Scottspur
You on drugs or something roni
Aussie'spur
You on drugs or something roni
Aussie'spur
Scottspur - we are singing from the same hymn sheet. Great post ( "I say we need 6/7 more players......") - no flies on you, mate.
jonathanhotspur
Scottspur - we are singing from the same hymn sheet. Great post ( "I say we need 6/7 more players......") - no flies on you, mate.
jonathanhotspur
It's time to rid ourselves of this senseless sentimentality and start afresh. As the saying goes, a new broom sweeps clean.
Scottspur
It's time to rid ourselves of this senseless sentimentality and start afresh. As the saying goes, a new broom sweeps clean.
Scottspur
brooksy where the hell did u get "it looks like it will be anton ferdinand" from.such a liar and the sort of person that thrives off the paper bulls**t
jako
brooksy where the hell did u get "it looks like it will be anton ferdinand" from.such a liar and the sort of person that thrives off the paper bulls**t
jako
You are not being realistic though, 6-7 new players, is that aswell as Modric & GDS or including them ? Why get rid of Steed imo he was brilliant for us last season, i can see the reasoning of you wanting to sell Hudd, Lennon, Zok & Jenas although i dont agree that all should be sold. What about KPB & kaboul, are we to just discard them aswell, like used up bits of tissue.
Aussie'spur
You are not being realistic though, 6-7 new players, is that aswell as Modric & GDS or including them ? Why get rid of Steed imo he was brilliant for us last season, i can see the reasoning of you wanting to sell Hudd, Lennon, Zok & Jenas although i dont agree that all should be sold. What about KPB & kaboul, are we to just discard them aswell, like used up bits of tissue.
Aussie'spur
No Aussie'spur, as written in the post, it's excluding Modric & GDS. I'm not saying sell everyone, obviously we're going to need a certain amount of cover. Players like Malbranque and even Zokora to an extent are good for the squad, but I don't see them as first choice players if we're to crack the top 4. I'm just saying that one or two of the players that were thought to be untouchable a season or two ago will have to be sold to make room/cash for players that are good enough.
Scottspur
No Aussie'spur, as written in the post, it's excluding Modric & GDS. I'm not saying sell everyone, obviously we're going to need a certain amount of cover. Players like Malbranque and even Zokora to an extent are good for the squad, but I don't see them as first choice players if we're to crack the top 4. I'm just saying that one or two of the players that were thought to be untouchable a season or two ago will have to be sold to make room/cash for players that are good enough.
Scottspur
just out of interest if we need 7 new players along with the 2 we have signed what exactly would be your team next year? why do we need an extra 7 players, are you forgetting we already have hutton,king,woody,bale,keane,berba,hudd,lennon, they are all first team players. how can people slag off the hudd when he is in the england squad and Everton who are trying to break into 4th are offering £10m for him. get real guys
wrexham_spur
just out of interest if we need 7 new players along with the 2 we have signed what exactly would be your team next year? why do we need an extra 7 players, are you forgetting we already have hutton,king,woody,bale,keane,berba,hudd,lennon, they are all first team players. how can people slag off the hudd when he is in the england squad and Everton who are trying to break into 4th are offering £10m for him. get real guys
wrexham_spur
I think we need 2 gks, 2 cds, a dm, a rw and a striker. Adds up, doesn't it? I'm assuming Robbo's time is up, that King is most likely going to retire and that Berbs will be packing up his alice bands.
jonathanhotspur
I think we need 2 gks, 2 cds, a dm, a rw and a striker. Adds up, doesn't it? I'm assuming Robbo's time is up, that King is most likely going to retire and that Berbs will be packing up his alice bands.
jonathanhotspur
Wrexaham-spur we definately need 2 GK's [assuming Robbo will be sold] a C/B as cover for King/Woodgate & hopefully Kaboul, [Dawson is pony] & a quality D/M. So for me that is another 4 players + Moddy & D Santos. Team sorted, as to who those 4 players will be ? I will leave that up to the people that know best, i have my own thoughts on who they could be ?? I have based my feelings on the assumption that Berba will be at WHL next season
Aussie'spur
Wrexaham-spur we definately need 2 GK's [assuming Robbo will be sold] a C/B as cover for King/Woodgate & hopefully Kaboul, [Dawson is pony] & a quality D/M. So for me that is another 4 players + Moddy & D Santos. Team sorted, as to who those 4 players will be ? I will leave that up to the people that know best, i have my own thoughts on who they could be ?? I have based my feelings on the assumption that Berba will be at WHL next season
Aussie'spur
Whats the reckoning here,will GDS go straight into the team as left mid(depending on what formation we're playing)or will he be eased in over a few months or possibly be put on loan?
CoxintheBox
Whats the reckoning here,will GDS go straight into the team as left mid(depending on what formation we're playing)or will he be eased in over a few months or possibly be put on loan?
CoxintheBox
OK Wrexham-spur, from back to front and left to right, this is my team. New, Bale, New, Woodgate, Hutton, GDS, Modric, New, New, Keane and New/Bent. I don't think anyone is slagging Huddlestone off, it's just that at the moment, he isn't good enough.
Scottspur
2 goalies 1 CB and a CM,i don't think a RM is a priority JH if Lennon is'nt trusted then we use Steed,another 7 players on top of what we've already spent is a bit much,especially if they're all pushing for a start from the get go.
CoxintheBox
OK Wrexham-spur, from back to front and left to right, this is my team. New, Bale, New, Woodgate, Hutton, GDS, Modric, New, New, Keane and New/Bent. I don't think anyone is slagging Huddlestone off, it's just that at the moment, he isn't good enough.
Scottspur
2 goalies 1 CB and a CM,i don't think a RM is a priority JH if Lennon is'nt trusted then we use Steed,another 7 players on top of what we've already spent is a bit much,especially if they're all pushing for a start from the get go.
CoxintheBox
I think he MUST be eased into it because we can't expect him to adjust to the Premiership overnight. Zero chance of him going out on loan, CoxintheBox.
jonathanhotspur
I think he MUST be eased into it because we can't expect him to adjust to the Premiership overnight. Zero chance of him going out on loan, CoxintheBox.
jonathanhotspur
My thoughts entirely Cox. Will GDS go straight into the team ???? I will leave that to Ramos to decide
Aussie'spur
My thoughts entirely Cox. Will GDS go straight into the team ???? I will leave that to Ramos to decide
Aussie'spur
One centre back to partner Woody and one cb to provide cover for our first choice cd pairing. Steed isn't good enough to be a regular starter. He's very ordinary and if you want me to explain why, I will. There's a revolution in progress here and we need to jettison the softies and the donkeys. Of those 7 or so players, I expect 3 will be squad players. It's a long season, we want at least 2 good cup runs and there will be injuries to contend with. Anyone good enough will see plenty of playing time.
jonathanhotspur
One centre back to partner Woody and one cb to provide cover for our first choice cd pairing. Steed isn't good enough to be a regular starter. He's very ordinary and if you want me to explain why, I will. There's a revolution in progress here and we need to jettison the softies and the donkeys. Of those 7 or so players, I expect 3 will be squad players. It's a long season, we want at least 2 good cup runs and there will be injuries to contend with. Anyone good enough will see plenty of playing time.
jonathanhotspur
I agree that GDS will probably be eased into the team, in that respect we have options with either Malbranque and maybe even Bale playing LW with Gilberto behind him. The reason GDS left Barca and came to us was to get first team football, Ramos must believe he can do the job now.
Scottspur
I agree that GDS will probably be eased into the team, in that respect we have options with either Malbranque and maybe even Bale playing LW with Gilberto behind him. The reason GDS left Barca and came to us was to get first team football, Ramos must believe he can do the job now.
Scottspur
So persuming Berbatov is staying for the minute,we have great options on the left with Bale,Gilberto,Modric,GDS,Steed needn't be a stop gap left mid anymore and we can interchange him with Lennon,or Modric in a pinch,all we need to sort out is 4 defensive players(2Gk,CB,CM.And loose 7 players to free up wages money,Lee,Daws,Stalteri,Gardener,Tainio,Zok,Robbo.maybe BAE.Put Taraabt and Kaboul out on loan,draft in one ot 2 of the kids for bench warming duty and we're laughing.
CoxintheBox
So persuming Berbatov is staying for the minute,we have great options on the left with Bale,Gilberto,Modric,GDS,Steed needn't be a stop gap left mid anymore and we can interchange him with Lennon,or Modric in a pinch,all we need to sort out is 4 defensive players(2Gk,CB,CM.And loose 7 players to free up wages money,Lee,Daws,Stalteri,Gardener,Tainio,Zok,Robbo.maybe BAE.Put Taraabt and Kaboul out on loan,draft in one ot 2 of the kids for bench warming duty and we're laughing.
CoxintheBox
And before anyone starts i'm not suggesting Modric plays wide regularly,he's just down as an option
CoxintheBox
And before anyone starts i'm not suggesting Modric plays wide regularly,he's just down as an option
CoxintheBox
in my opinion we dont need a DM or a CB, we have dervitte in the ranks who can provide cover.
and as for DM we have king, kaboul, Huddlestone and Boateng, who "should" be able to play there, id rathe king play there and kaboul get some experience during preseason, you never know, it could be magic!
thoughts?
little j
in my opinion we dont need a DM or a CB, we have dervitte in the ranks who can provide cover.
and as for DM we have king, kaboul, Huddlestone and Boateng, who "should" be able to play there, id rathe king play there and kaboul get some experience during preseason, you never know, it could be magic!
thoughts?
little j
there isnt enough time in preseason 4 kaboul to get good enough. would work if we got another CB or maybe train huddlestone to tackle
attwooll9
there isnt enough time in preseason 4 kaboul to get good enough. would work if we got another CB or maybe train huddlestone to tackle
attwooll9
How about we just give up?
Park Lane Yid
How about we just give up?
Park Lane Yid
A GK, and CB will be very nice thank you very much. :)
Real Deal
A GK, and CB will be very nice thank you very much. :)
Real Deal
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