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Is it just me, or did Bentley play well?

Watching Tottenham in recent games I have taken a particular interest in David Bentley, Surely this player isn't as bad as seemingly every Spurs fan claims...

One thing that I noticed is that he works deceptively hard and despite accusations to the contrary he tracks back all the time and cover's a huge amount of ground, I would guess that yesterday he probably put in more miles than any other Spurs player..

I have to accept that the main reasons we bought him haven't been a success, his crossing and dead balls have been disappointing. but I have to ask if his problems are in part our own making? Bentley isn't a left sided player and although I would suggest that his wrong foot is certainly better than the average footballer, it isn't good enough to be comfortable playing on the left, particularly, when his game is all about delivery and not running at defenders.

Also it seems to me that despite lacking obvious success he has never hidden. His workrate for me was exceptional yesterday, but he was slated terribly for his performance, in several site ratings he was given a 3 out of 10 which was quite ridiculous from what I was watching. I saw a player who worked well, if not exceptionally and is if anything trying too hard to impress and in doing so is missing the main reasons for his being on the pitch in the first place...

It always saddens me that we as Spurs fans have so many players we love to hate and seem totally blind to what they actually do for the team. When we consider players like Jenas, Bent, Dawson, Ekotto, Zokora and now Bentley, are all players fans almost seem to enjoy hating. In truth all have their limitations, but who doesn't? Perhaps in the cases of some, the burden of a huge feel plays more on the minds of the fans than the players themselves.

I have written on several occasions that Bentley is being asked to play a completely different game to the one he played at Blackburn. When he was played on the right he had the attack minded Brett Emerton to support and overlap, allowing him to come inside, either in midfield or in support of the attack. I thought he was beginning to show his best form when we had Alan Hutton behind him and felt they were a potentially very strong pairing. At Spurs we are altering his position and personnel game on game, but expect him to be excellent, which is unrealistic. Perhaps in accepting he is doing a job for the team and putting them over his personal glory, we would see a different player and not see an 18 million price tag, every time a free kick goes astray...

I fully expect to be in a small minority over my feelings for Bentley and maybe it is just me that thinks he is doing far more than we are giving him credit for, but perhaps we as fans need to look at our own opinions and how we view our players, because I genuinely feel we are expecting too much from so many and completely miss what is staring us in the face...




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Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday December 22 2008

Time: 9:51AM

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well out of about 5 or more corners yesterday , not one of them was in a good position, starting to fell he is just as inconsistent if not worse than Jenas. No doubt who our best player is thought >>>Luka Modric
No1Yido
well out of about 5 or more corners yesterday , not one of them was in a good position, starting to fell he is just as inconsistent if not worse than Jenas. No doubt who our best player is thought >>>Luka Modric
No1Yido
so Modric will be off in the summer then...
The Tailor
so Modric will be off in the summer then...
The Tailor
No1, I agree his dead balls are falling way below his norm, but I think that so many are isolating his performance purely on his final ball and ignoring his allround game, nuch in the same way people do with JJ..
oxfordspur
No1, I agree his dead balls are falling way below his norm, but I think that so many are isolating his performance purely on his final ball and ignoring his allround game, nuch in the same way people do with JJ..
oxfordspur
Bentley is a very good player - So is JJ, Hudd and ZOK BUT BUT BUT neither of them is a driving force, a Dominator of the midfield they are very very good supporting midfielders BUt they cannot LEAD and take the game by the scruff of the neck. A Roy Keane or Edgar Davids in the middle of them would galvanise, take charge and drag them through in tight spots and see games out. Thats the problem!
michael.thfc
Bentley is a very good player - So is JJ, Hudd and ZOK BUT BUT BUT neither of them is a driving force, a Dominator of the midfield they are very very good supporting midfielders BUt they cannot LEAD and take the game by the scruff of the neck. A Roy Keane or Edgar Davids in the middle of them would galvanise, take charge and drag them through in tight spots and see games out. Thats the problem!
michael.thfc
Totally agree OX...Luka is being hailed by many as a future legend etc etc now that he is playing in his position but quite frankly under Ramos he was a liability. If we play Bentley on the right with an overlapping fullback and a CF who can head the ball Bentley will justify his price tag...
shedboy1
Totally agree OX...Luka is being hailed by many as a future legend etc etc now that he is playing in his position but quite frankly under Ramos he was a liability. If we play Bentley on the right with an overlapping fullback and a CF who can head the ball Bentley will justify his price tag...
shedboy1
Yeah Bentley is probably the most technically gifted footballer, maybe bar Modric, we have. His ball control is fantastic and his lack of delivery is through pressure to do well not his quality. Beckham was the same at his age and he turned out to be a fantastic player. As will Bentley. Yesterday I thought we put in a good performance and definitely didn't deserve to lose.
Eemton
Yeah Bentley is probably the most technically gifted footballer, maybe bar Modric, we have. His ball control is fantastic and his lack of delivery is through pressure to do well not his quality. Beckham was the same at his age and he turned out to be a fantastic player. As will Bentley. Yesterday I thought we put in a good performance and definitely didn't deserve to lose.
Eemton
I agree with shedboy1 - play him in his proper position - but then where does Lennon play ?? On he left??
SUper Yido
I agree with shedboy1 - play him in his proper position - but then where does Lennon play ?? On he left??
SUper Yido
Well said Ox, and i am so pleased you had the guts to say so, I watched the game yesterday and i thought Bentley did more than ok. Why is it that we drag down a lot of our players. Bentleys work rate is second to none, and where is this so called ego problem of his ?? What evidence of egotism has he shown ? The boy is a definite believer in his own ability, if that makes him egotistical then so be it, maybe if we could give him half a chance by playing him in his prefered position he might satisfy some of the boo boys. Once again well said Ox.
Aussie'spur
Well said Ox, and i am so pleased you had the guts to say so, I watched the game yesterday and i thought Bentley did more than ok. Why is it that we drag down a lot of our players. Bentleys work rate is second to none, and where is this so called ego problem of his ?? What evidence of egotism has he shown ? The boy is a definite believer in his own ability, if that makes him egotistical then so be it, maybe if we could give him half a chance by playing him in his prefered position he might satisfy some of the boo boys. Once again well said Ox.
Aussie'spur
see yesterday i think it would have made sence to put bentley on the right and lennon on the left as enrique is quick but not the best techniqual defender and i think lennon would have had more joy against beye, bentley certainly would have against enrique. TT , i dont think he will this summer , but unless we start to improve within the next couple of year i do rekon he will be off. Ox, he does get more stick than others, but with his massive ego he should deal with it.
No1Yido
see yesterday i think it would have made sence to put bentley on the right and lennon on the left as enrique is quick but not the best techniqual defender and i think lennon would have had more joy against beye, bentley certainly would have against enrique. TT , i dont think he will this summer , but unless we start to improve within the next couple of year i do rekon he will be off. Ox, he does get more stick than others, but with his massive ego he should deal with it.
No1Yido
You know Bentley isn't one of my faves Ox, but I honestly thought he had another shocker yesterday. Some of his corners were a huge improvement on previous games, but were still failing to reach anyone. Delivery is supposed to be his best attribute but all he seems capable of at the moment is little flicks that get us nowhere. I really hope he does come good, but time is ticking and half a season through, at around 16m he's beginning to look like one of the worst pieces of business in the clubs history. Come on Bentley, prove me wrong!
Dave the Yid
Aussie , how about when he was 'fitigued' so he couldnt possibly represent his country. I like him but just fell he might not settle in here , i hope he does, because on his day he is one of the best in the country but , his days are few and far between.
No1Yido
You know Bentley isn't one of my faves Ox, but I honestly thought he had another shocker yesterday. Some of his corners were a huge improvement on previous games, but were still failing to reach anyone. Delivery is supposed to be his best attribute but all he seems capable of at the moment is little flicks that get us nowhere. I really hope he does come good, but time is ticking and half a season through, at around 16m he's beginning to look like one of the worst pieces of business in the clubs history. Come on Bentley, prove me wrong!
Dave the Yid
Aussie , how about when he was 'fitigued' so he couldnt possibly represent his country. I like him but just fell he might not settle in here , i hope he does, because on his day he is one of the best in the country but , his days are few and far between.
No1Yido
we paid 16m for him but when watford wanted 11m for Young we said No..No..No , another good bit of business by levy there then.
No1Yido
we paid 16m for him but when watford wanted 11m for Young we said No..No..No , another good bit of business by levy there then.
No1Yido
its a lot of money though for somebody who works hard. His crossing and free kicks have been abysmal so far this season. to be fair he has been played about the pitch a bit but hes a quality footballer and should be able to adapt.
spursbhoy
its a lot of money though for somebody who works hard. His crossing and free kicks have been abysmal so far this season. to be fair he has been played about the pitch a bit but hes a quality footballer and should be able to adapt.
spursbhoy
No1Yiddo, fair enough mate but your living in the past, it was two years ago [?] that Bentley said that, and maybe he was fatigued how do you know he was'nt and in any case how does that make him egotistical ???? Like wise with Ashley young again it was two years ago, 11m for a championship player in 2006 sounds a lot riskier than 15m for a proven prem player with England caps too his name .
Aussie'spur
One of my mates who is a fellow Yid put it this way 'For Bentley to have a really good game he has to be the best player on the pitch and he will on do that every 5-6 games' and I think that is well said - the whole team and all the other plaers have to be at their best - but my argument is not about his heart its about his final ball - which is the reason we signed him - I think i'd like to see Bentle and Lennon switching flanks during the games - Bentley cutting in off the left is dangerous but at the same time his delivery needs to improve big time - his corners and free kicks are weak at the best of times - and I thought JJ had a poor delivery !
SUper Yido
No1Yiddo, fair enough mate but your living in the past, it was two years ago [?] that Bentley said that, and maybe he was fatigued how do you know he was'nt and in any case how does that make him egotistical ???? Like wise with Ashley young again it was two years ago, 11m for a championship player in 2006 sounds a lot riskier than 15m for a proven prem player with England caps too his name .
Aussie'spur
One of my mates who is a fellow Yid put it this way 'For Bentley to have a really good game he has to be the best player on the pitch and he will on do that every 5-6 games' and I think that is well said - the whole team and all the other plaers have to be at their best - but my argument is not about his heart its about his final ball - which is the reason we signed him - I think i'd like to see Bentle and Lennon switching flanks during the games - Bentley cutting in off the left is dangerous but at the same time his delivery needs to improve big time - his corners and free kicks are weak at the best of times - and I thought JJ had a poor delivery !
SUper Yido
Excuse the mistakes but I wrote that in a bit of passion behind me!!
SUper Yido
Excuse the mistakes but I wrote that in a bit of passion behind me!!
SUper Yido
but young was in the prem with watford and showed he has got ldza ability and potential. Like i said i want bentley to do well but i just cant see it happening for him at tottenham, bearing in mind he had played no more games in that season than any1 else he shouldnt have been any more 'fatigued' than any other players should he??
No1Yido
but young was in the prem with watford and showed he has got ldza ability and potential. Like i said i want bentley to do well but i just cant see it happening for him at tottenham, bearing in mind he had played no more games in that season than any1 else he shouldnt have been any more 'fatigued' than any other players should he??
No1Yido
Apologys about Watford being in the prem, but in all honesty they still are/were a Championship side that were in the prem, so ime sort of right lol. Ime confused No1yido about how his claims to be fatigued would make him egotistical/bigheaded ?
Aussie'spur
Apologys about Watford being in the prem, but in all honesty they still are/were a Championship side that were in the prem, so ime sort of right lol. Ime confused No1yido about how his claims to be fatigued would make him egotistical/bigheaded ?
Aussie'spur
Aus - If our scouting networks were working correctly, we should have spotted the potential in Young a mile off. He was playing in the prem when we were linked (for watford) andwas by far their best player. You can argue it was a risk, but if our people behind the scenes are doing their job right, we should have known about how good he was. He's now arguably one of the hottest prospects in english football!
Dave the Yid
Aus - If our scouting networks were working correctly, we should have spotted the potential in Young a mile off. He was playing in the prem when we were linked (for watford) andwas by far their best player. You can argue it was a risk, but if our people behind the scenes are doing their job right, we should have known about how good he was. He's now arguably one of the hottest prospects in english football!
Dave the Yid
If we had bought young would we have got the best out of him? Are we getting the best out of Bentley? Most of the time you play balls into space...and if people arn't attacking that space you can look foolish now I know that Bentley's deliveries have not been consistent but I have seen some great deliveries and no-one trying to get on the end of them...give him time on the right it will come. As for Lennon he's upped his game I think Arry has to decide who plays depending on the opposition...
shedboy1
If we had bought young would we have got the best out of him? Are we getting the best out of Bentley? Most of the time you play balls into space...and if people arn't attacking that space you can look foolish now I know that Bentley's deliveries have not been consistent but I have seen some great deliveries and no-one trying to get on the end of them...give him time on the right it will come. As for Lennon he's upped his game I think Arry has to decide who plays depending on the opposition...
shedboy1
Had Bentley been bought from a championship side or had come through from our stiffs everyone would be saying " how well he is doing" thing is he did'nt and because we paid 15m for him i think we expect too much, i know its an odd analogy but that is how it is, its all about how much we paid for him.....and the expectations to justify the amount spent,as i have said, had he come through from our stiffs would we be questioning his worth to the first team ?????????/
Aussie'spur
Had Bentley been bought from a championship side or had come through from our stiffs everyone would be saying " how well he is doing" thing is he did'nt and because we paid 15m for him i think we expect too much, i know its an odd analogy but that is how it is, its all about how much we paid for him.....and the expectations to justify the amount spent,as i have said, had he come through from our stiffs would we be questioning his worth to the first team ?????????/
Aussie'spur
Oxford, exactly what Bentley cost Spurs is generally unknown to the general public, however we are led to believe by the media it ranges somewhere between 15 and 18 million pounds stirling. The question I now pose is the following, bearing in mind what we have seen and know of David Bentley as a Spurs player, if he was currently with another club would you go and pay 15 to 18 million for him?
denboy
Oxford, exactly what Bentley cost Spurs is generally unknown to the general public, however we are led to believe by the media it ranges somewhere between 15 and 18 million pounds stirling. The question I now pose is the following, bearing in mind what we have seen and know of David Bentley as a Spurs player, if he was currently with another club would you go and pay 15 to 18 million for him?
denboy
Young's fee was 8 mill plus add ons, which makes it even more depressing!
shelf16
A professional player can play anywhere. Zokora is a midfielder and played full back and in central defence. O'Hara is a midfielder and played as a left full back, in central midfield and left midfield. Lennon plays on the right, left and even behind the strikers. Hudd played as a central defender too. So why cannot Bentley play on both wings. I think that someone has to get hold of him and put his feet back on the ground.
Noel
Young's fee was 8 mill plus add ons, which makes it even more depressing!
shelf16
A professional player can play anywhere. Zokora is a midfielder and played full back and in central defence. O'Hara is a midfielder and played as a left full back, in central midfield and left midfield. Lennon plays on the right, left and even behind the strikers. Hudd played as a central defender too. So why cannot Bentley play on both wings. I think that someone has to get hold of him and put his feet back on the ground.
Noel
If David Bentley had had a couple of decent forwards to aim his crosses and passes too, then i think you would see a much improved David Bentley, and surely no one can deny that in the last two games the closest we have come to scoring has been from Bentleys magnificently taken free kick V Man U and the technicaly superb shot against West Ham both brilliantly saved, he was also twice unlucky with shots against Newcastle that were deflected or blocked. Please dont get me wrong, i have been disappointed in him, but nowhere near some of you guys.
Aussie'spur
If David Bentley had had a couple of decent forwards to aim his crosses and passes too, then i think you would see a much improved David Bentley, and surely no one can deny that in the last two games the closest we have come to scoring has been from Bentleys magnificently taken free kick V Man U and the technicaly superb shot against West Ham both brilliantly saved, he was also twice unlucky with shots against Newcastle that were deflected or blocked. Please dont get me wrong, i have been disappointed in him, but nowhere near some of you guys.
Aussie'spur
Aus - It not so much a matter of price. If he'd have cost us 500,000 from Rotherham and was putting in these kind of performances I'd still be equally critical. The fact is than in half a season he's not settled at all. He just doesn't fit our system. Its not that i think he's a bad player, far from it. I thought he was quality when playing for the enenmy in their "kids" teams, when he was on loan at Norwich and also at Blackburn. However, we play aim to play rapid, free-flowing football, which is something Bentley struggles to keep up with. Lennon is far better suited to this on our wing. The only way i can see Bentley being successful is to play in the central role, like Thudd does, but he would have to restrict what he tries to do. If he sits there and pings the ball about, he'd probably do ok, but Thudd is arguably better built for the role. Like i said, i hope he finds his stride, but i can't see it happening fo us
Dave the Yid
Aus - It not so much a matter of price. If he'd have cost us 500,000 from Rotherham and was putting in these kind of performances I'd still be equally critical. The fact is than in half a season he's not settled at all. He just doesn't fit our system. Its not that i think he's a bad player, far from it. I thought he was quality when playing for the enenmy in their "kids" teams, when he was on loan at Norwich and also at Blackburn. However, we play aim to play rapid, free-flowing football, which is something Bentley struggles to keep up with. Lennon is far better suited to this on our wing. The only way i can see Bentley being successful is to play in the central role, like Thudd does, but he would have to restrict what he tries to do. If he sits there and pings the ball about, he'd probably do ok, but Thudd is arguably better built for the role. Like i said, i hope he finds his stride, but i can't see it happening fo us
Dave the Yid
Noel you are quiet correct that a proffesional player can play anywhere, but not on a consistent basis. O'Hara played well at L/B in his first game but got found out the next time he played there, likewise with Zok at R/B, he had a couple of decent games there then got found out, same with Hudd at C/B, personaly i think that Bentley has made a good fist of playing on the left, as has Lennon to when he has played there. If a pro can play anywhere would you trust playing Pav at C/M for eg, i think not. Why try to fit square pegs in round holes ? In do understand what you are saying though.
Aussie'spur
Noel you are quiet correct that a proffesional player can play anywhere, but not on a consistent basis. O'Hara played well at L/B in his first game but got found out the next time he played there, likewise with Zok at R/B, he had a couple of decent games there then got found out, same with Hudd at C/B, personaly i think that Bentley has made a good fist of playing on the left, as has Lennon to when he has played there. If a pro can play anywhere would you trust playing Pav at C/M for eg, i think not. Why try to fit square pegs in round holes ? In do understand what you are saying though.
Aussie'spur
Personally, I never saw the point of getiing another right winger like bentley. We had lennon who was only going to get better, but yet again they ignored the left hand side of midfield and went after someone that was never going to fit into the squad we had!
Shadowmonkey
Personally, I never saw the point of getiing another right winger like bentley. We had lennon who was only going to get better, but yet again they ignored the left hand side of midfield and went after someone that was never going to fit into the squad we had!
Shadowmonkey
Dave you have put up some very good points and you may well be right, especially about not fitting "our system" maybe we should change our system eh, its hardly been productive over the last 50 years or so ? Sorry, ime being negative now but hopefully you will get my drift. At present i am not prepared to give up on him, I backed Lennon when the majority wanted him gone and he came good, so hopefully Bentley will do likewise. Hey Ox, wheres the support eh, i go out on a limb to back you and all i get in response is silence ?????? lol.
Aussie'spur
Dave you have put up some very good points and you may well be right, especially about not fitting "our system" maybe we should change our system eh, its hardly been productive over the last 50 years or so ? Sorry, ime being negative now but hopefully you will get my drift. At present i am not prepared to give up on him, I backed Lennon when the majority wanted him gone and he came good, so hopefully Bentley will do likewise. Hey Ox, wheres the support eh, i go out on a limb to back you and all i get in response is silence ?????? lol.
Aussie'spur
Shadow, at the time we bought Bentley, everyone else was writing Lennon off due to "cant cross, cant shoot, cant use his left foot, is one dimensional, is a one trick pony, have i kickstarted your memory.
Aussie'spur
Shadow, at the time we bought Bentley, everyone else was writing Lennon off due to "cant cross, cant shoot, cant use his left foot, is one dimensional, is a one trick pony, have i kickstarted your memory.
Aussie'spur
Aus mate - your doing a good job at defending him! When it comes down to it, we all have our opinions and most of us (me included) let our passion drive them. I want nothing more for him to do what he could do at his previous clubs, but for me at the moment, he looks like our poorest player on the field (bar anyone playing up front at the moment). Some people refuse to accept he (and Bale being another) are having these bad spells and feel they should be in the squad on reputation. The fact is that while others (Lennon in Bentleys case, BAE & O'Hara in Bales) are performing to a much better standard, they deserve to be playing week in week out. Bentley somehow manages to keep his place, while poor JO'H is constantly sat on the sidelines after putting in great performances when he does get on the field. If Bentley cost less, there would be less hesitation to drop him and the fans wouldn't be on his back every week because of his poor performances. Give him a break, show him he's not "untouchable" and let him come back to fight for his place!
Dave the Yid
Aus mate - your doing a good job at defending him! When it comes down to it, we all have our opinions and most of us (me included) let our passion drive them. I want nothing more for him to do what he could do at his previous clubs, but for me at the moment, he looks like our poorest player on the field (bar anyone playing up front at the moment). Some people refuse to accept he (and Bale being another) are having these bad spells and feel they should be in the squad on reputation. The fact is that while others (Lennon in Bentleys case, BAE & O'Hara in Bales) are performing to a much better standard, they deserve to be playing week in week out. Bentley somehow manages to keep his place, while poor JO'H is constantly sat on the sidelines after putting in great performances when he does get on the field. If Bentley cost less, there would be less hesitation to drop him and the fans wouldn't be on his back every week because of his poor performances. Give him a break, show him he's not "untouchable" and let him come back to fight for his place!
Dave the Yid
I haven't really criticised Bentley, the jury is still well out as far as I'm concerned. When we signed him, I thought that this would relegate Lennon to the bench with him having a "supersub" role to come on and run at tired defenders. Because Lennon's form has been so outstanding, Harry has tried to fit Bentley in on the left which hasn't worked brilliantly but I only judge players once they have had a decent run in their natural position. Due to form, if we sign a LW, Bentley will be on the bench I suspect which is unfair. The poor guy has been trying too hard and played on the wrong side, he just needs to relax and concentrate on his dead balls as his work rate IS good but and is still settling in. I disagree about good players playing out of position, it only works if they play on the same side, you wouldn't play O'Hara at RB would you FFS...
Chris Hart
I haven't really criticised Bentley, the jury is still well out as far as I'm concerned. When we signed him, I thought that this would relegate Lennon to the bench with him having a "supersub" role to come on and run at tired defenders. Because Lennon's form has been so outstanding, Harry has tried to fit Bentley in on the left which hasn't worked brilliantly but I only judge players once they have had a decent run in their natural position. Due to form, if we sign a LW, Bentley will be on the bench I suspect which is unfair. The poor guy has been trying too hard and played on the wrong side, he just needs to relax and concentrate on his dead balls as his work rate IS good but and is still settling in. I disagree about good players playing out of position, it only works if they play on the same side, you wouldn't play O'Hara at RB would you FFS...
Chris Hart
Chris - I'd be more comfortable with Lennon on the left and Bentley on the right. Lennon doesn't base his game on delivering crosses, so he should be able to run at players and cut in side no matter which wing he is playing on. He's also a much harder worker than Bentley and would aid BAE with the defensive duties on the left, whereas Charlie is more than capable of holding his own on the right.
Dave the Yid
Chris - I'd be more comfortable with Lennon on the left and Bentley on the right. Lennon doesn't base his game on delivering crosses, so he should be able to run at players and cut in side no matter which wing he is playing on. He's also a much harder worker than Bentley and would aid BAE with the defensive duties on the left, whereas Charlie is more than capable of holding his own on the right.
Dave the Yid
Dave as i said previously, you put up an excellent argument, one that is hard for me to debate with you, as basically you are right, but i still feel that Bentley is worth his place in our best starting 11. One good thing to come out of this for me is to read fellow fans are not slating me or others, for my pro Bentley opinions, i know for a fact that had it been one particular poster in my position his replys and responses to others replys would not have been so amicable. Dave, its late over here and after sitting up last night till 2am to watch us lose in the 90th minute ime feeling rather stuffed, so ime out of here, later.......
Aussie'spur
Dave as i said previously, you put up an excellent argument, one that is hard for me to debate with you, as basically you are right, but i still feel that Bentley is worth his place in our best starting 11. One good thing to come out of this for me is to read fellow fans are not slating me or others, for my pro Bentley opinions, i know for a fact that had it been one particular poster in my position his replys and responses to others replys would not have been so amicable. Dave, its late over here and after sitting up last night till 2am to watch us lose in the 90th minute ime feeling rather stuffed, so ime out of here, later.......
Aussie'spur
I'm with Aussie and Ox, Bentley is nowhere near as bad as some of you guys make out. He put in a couple of crosses yesterday that Campbell really should have made more of. Maybe him and Santa Cruz are missing each other! I do feel that there is a lot more to come from Bentley though.
shelf16
I'm with Aussie and Ox, Bentley is nowhere near as bad as some of you guys make out. He put in a couple of crosses yesterday that Campbell really should have made more of. Maybe him and Santa Cruz are missing each other! I do feel that there is a lot more to come from Bentley though.
shelf16
CH, Spot on mate.
Aussie'spur
Santa Cruz would be a good signing but unsure about his loyalty, he is doing it to blackburn now by saying if a bigger club comes in i would like to move. I am not saying there is anything wrong with him wanting to leave blackburn, but if he does join spurs and does well i fell he could do the same to us.
No1Yido
CH, Spot on mate.
Aussie'spur
Santa Cruz would be a good signing but unsure about his loyalty, he is doing it to blackburn now by saying if a bigger club comes in i would like to move. I am not saying there is anything wrong with him wanting to leave blackburn, but if he does join spurs and does well i fell he could do the same to us.
No1Yido
Shelf, your only with me at the mo, Ox is laying low
Aussie'spur
Shelf, your only with me at the mo, Ox is laying low
Aussie'spur
imo bentley is a good player and has improved in the last 2 games although alot of our good crossing and corner obertunities r bing wasted only reaching the 1st man or being skyied. as some have poitned out here and i agree that he misses not just a striker who can head the ball well but a full back who attacks and has past to over lap Bentley. although i like corluka he doesnt do this well so if both r playing corluka has to b in CB imo. hopefully when hutton comes back bentleys game will improve.
meee93
imo bentley is a good player and has improved in the last 2 games although alot of our good crossing and corner obertunities r bing wasted only reaching the 1st man or being skyied. as some have poitned out here and i agree that he misses not just a striker who can head the ball well but a full back who attacks and has past to over lap Bentley. although i like corluka he doesnt do this well so if both r playing corluka has to b in CB imo. hopefully when hutton comes back bentleys game will improve.
meee93
pretty much agree with everything Aus has said...
shedboy1
pretty much agree with everything Aus has said...
shedboy1
*past-pace
meee93
im with you Ox Bentley is so underrated at spurs just like Huddlestone but as you probably know jj is useless. Bentley should be classed as a legend just for scoring that goal at the immigrants its flashes of brilliance like that that make him a class player no one can deny that. He will settle and so will a few more players. Personally i cant wait for this season to finish so we can think about next season hopefully with a CC and FA Cup and maybe a UEFA cup. COYS
phil4spurs
im with you Ox Bentley is so underrated at spurs just like Huddlestone but as you probably know jj is useless. Bentley should be classed as a legend just for scoring that goal at the immigrants its flashes of brilliance like that that make him a class player no one can deny that. He will settle and so will a few more players. Personally i cant wait for this season to finish so we can think about next season hopefully with a CC and FA Cup and maybe a UEFA cup. COYS
phil4spurs
*past-pace
meee93
Bentley has been better in the last couple of games but no-one in their right mind would call him a 16 million pound player on the evidence of this season. What would that make Lennon worth?? Apart from his poor dead ball delivery, he just loses the ball so often by attempting to beat players without having the speed to do so, whereas he should be looking for his teammates. I am not making him a scapegoat - I hope he stays and gets better, but if someone offered us 16 million right now with the opportunity to use the money to strengthen other areas, I'd be very tempted.
suspiciousminds
Bentley has been better in the last couple of games but no-one in their right mind would call him a 16 million pound player on the evidence of this season. What would that make Lennon worth?? Apart from his poor dead ball delivery, he just loses the ball so often by attempting to beat players without having the speed to do so, whereas he should be looking for his teammates. I am not making him a scapegoat - I hope he stays and gets better, but if someone offered us 16 million right now with the opportunity to use the money to strengthen other areas, I'd be very tempted.
suspiciousminds
Dave, whilst you are right that Lennon could play on the left, I think everyone would say that when he plays there, he loses something from his game. Yes, he can dribble and take on a player but ultimately he still has to deliver in to the box which he does poorly when playing on the left, it's not even something he has perfected when playing RW. My brutal opinion is that we are not a good enough club currently to have 2 RW of the quality of Lennon and Bentley and keep both happy. If we sign Downing, as expected, in January, Bentley will be a bench player which may mean he will not be happy and want a move in the summer which would probably to Villa or Liverpool and then be superb. He will be another player we sell at a loss and don't see the best of. Sadly, I also see the same thing happening at RB with either Gunter or Hutton having left in the summer. Let's all give Bentley a chance and get behind him, you don't become a crap player by changing clubs, I think the real issue is how long he will be happy playing LW or as back up to Lennon, especially with his England aspirations.
Chris Hart
Dave, whilst you are right that Lennon could play on the left, I think everyone would say that when he plays there, he loses something from his game. Yes, he can dribble and take on a player but ultimately he still has to deliver in to the box which he does poorly when playing on the left, it's not even something he has perfected when playing RW. My brutal opinion is that we are not a good enough club currently to have 2 RW of the quality of Lennon and Bentley and keep both happy. If we sign Downing, as expected, in January, Bentley will be a bench player which may mean he will not be happy and want a move in the summer which would probably to Villa or Liverpool and then be superb. He will be another player we sell at a loss and don't see the best of. Sadly, I also see the same thing happening at RB with either Gunter or Hutton having left in the summer. Let's all give Bentley a chance and get behind him, you don't become a crap player by changing clubs, I think the real issue is how long he will be happy playing LW or as back up to Lennon, especially with his England aspirations.
Chris Hart
Bentley is a very talented player, but has definately under performed which is frustrating. However, I think our expectations as supporters are over ambitious these days and we just can't help relating the vasts sums of money they get paid with how they should perform. It's not logical but when you're spending much of your hard earned dough supporting the team, you always expect the very best performances instantly. Don't underrate Bentley he will come good, you only have to look at the game against the Arse to see that he has ability that many other players dont. As for JJ love him or hate him we appear to win more games with him in the team than without! To a large extent I agree with michael.thfc
CroydonSpur
Bentley is a very talented player, but has definately under performed which is frustrating. However, I think our expectations as supporters are over ambitious these days and we just can't help relating the vasts sums of money they get paid with how they should perform. It's not logical but when you're spending much of your hard earned dough supporting the team, you always expect the very best performances instantly. Don't underrate Bentley he will come good, you only have to look at the game against the Arse to see that he has ability that many other players dont. As for JJ love him or hate him we appear to win more games with him in the team than without! To a large extent I agree with michael.thfc
CroydonSpur
The thing is with all the players we love to hate they are all missing one vital thing in there game that is essential in there position and holds the team back. Bentley lacks or has no pace, Zokora cannot pass or tackle very well, Hudd lacks agression, Dawson no pace, Ekotto cannot pass or strong enough, Pav cannot hold the ball up, Bent cannot hold the ball up either, Lennon cannot cross the ball, Jenas cannot create. That I think is why we are where we are in the league and why especially in Bentley for example no big 4 club wanted him and the same for the rest of the players I mentioned above. Average because they lack one vital ingredent to there game.
function
The thing is with all the players we love to hate they are all missing one vital thing in there game that is essential in there position and holds the team back. Bentley lacks or has no pace, Zokora cannot pass or tackle very well, Hudd lacks agression, Dawson no pace, Ekotto cannot pass or strong enough, Pav cannot hold the ball up, Bent cannot hold the ball up either, Lennon cannot cross the ball, Jenas cannot create. That I think is why we are where we are in the league and why especially in Bentley for example no big 4 club wanted him and the same for the rest of the players I mentioned above. Average because they lack one vital ingredent to there game.
function
Chris - i do agree, but in the interest of both, does lennon not do a better job on the left than Bentley? If Bentley can only perform at his best on the right, surely it is better making use of that, and putting Lennon, who may not be AS effective but still not as bad as Bentley, on the left. I disagree that he would flourish at Villa. They are probably play the most pace based game in the league and have got so far by the whole side battling as a unit. He would fit in well at Liverpool or the Chavs though, but would be best suited to a team like Everton IMO
Dave the Yid
Chris - i do agree, but in the interest of both, does lennon not do a better job on the left than Bentley? If Bentley can only perform at his best on the right, surely it is better making use of that, and putting Lennon, who may not be AS effective but still not as bad as Bentley, on the left. I disagree that he would flourish at Villa. They are probably play the most pace based game in the league and have got so far by the whole side battling as a unit. He would fit in well at Liverpool or the Chavs though, but would be best suited to a team like Everton IMO
Dave the Yid
sorry, should read "they probably play" without the "are"
Dave the Yid
sorry, should read "they probably play" without the "are"
Dave the Yid
Just gonna put my two pence worth in, on current form Lennon is undroppable, therefore Bentley has to be dropped, I've always thought he was overrated even at Blackburn his crosses were awful, Santa Cruz made him look good, if anyone cant see this u no nothing about football. Its only because he crosses so much that some of his crosses come off. As suspiciousminds said in the above post he loses possession far too easily and has no pace which i think is very important for a winger. I'm one who likes giving players time but when the team is so unbalanced i believe something has to be done.
spurfect one
Just gonna put my two pence worth in, on current form Lennon is undroppable, therefore Bentley has to be dropped, I've always thought he was overrated even at Blackburn his crosses were awful, Santa Cruz made him look good, if anyone cant see this u no nothing about football. Its only because he crosses so much that some of his crosses come off. As suspiciousminds said in the above post he loses possession far too easily and has no pace which i think is very important for a winger. I'm one who likes giving players time but when the team is so unbalanced i believe something has to be done.
spurfect one
Yo Aus!!! Ya everybody else was saying that! I didnt. Hes only 21 ffs! Ya his crossing wasnt great and his left foot werent much but he could and has worked on them!!! And I'd like to see you cross an inch perfect ball when every one is clipping at your heels as you plough past them. Bentley hasnt got much pace, any aparent crossing ability, or much of a left foot!
Shadowmonkey
Yo Aus!!! Ya everybody else was saying that! I didnt. Hes only 21 ffs! Ya his crossing wasnt great and his left foot werent much but he could and has worked on them!!! And I'd like to see you cross an inch perfect ball when every one is clipping at your heels as you plough past them. Bentley hasnt got much pace, any aparent crossing ability, or much of a left foot!
Shadowmonkey
Spurfect One - Beckham had no pace either, are you saying that he was crap as well?! I would hardly think that you play for Man U, Real Madrid and now AC Milan if you are crap!! He is the player Bentley is most compared to and maybe the problem isn't that Bentley crosses too much, it is that we do not have a target man up front to convert them in the RSC mould. Wingers are ultimately judged by assists/goals both I think there are a lot more to come from Bentley, he is not the finished article by any means. I do agree about the team being unbalanced though, hence my post above where I think he will be sacrificed when a left winger is bought.
Chris Hart
Spurfect One - Beckham had no pace either, are you saying that he was crap as well?! I would hardly think that you play for Man U, Real Madrid and now AC Milan if you are crap!! He is the player Bentley is most compared to and maybe the problem isn't that Bentley crosses too much, it is that we do not have a target man up front to convert them in the RSC mould. Wingers are ultimately judged by assists/goals both I think there are a lot more to come from Bentley, he is not the finished article by any means. I do agree about the team being unbalanced though, hence my post above where I think he will be sacrificed when a left winger is bought.
Chris Hart
IMO Bentley is just suffering from playing in a system that doesnt suit him, he is obviously most effective on the right of a 4-4-2, a formation we had no intention of playing this season. I can actually see him being more influential in CM, where he will be able to use his other strength, which is his ability to shoot from distance. Why do we buy players that blatantly won't fit in? We are a footballing side, yet we spend up to 16M on a striker who can't play football (Bent) and spend a similar amount on a RM who is best played in a 4-4-2, then play him in a 4-5-1. Doesnt make sense.
Guyver
IMO Bentley is just suffering from playing in a system that doesnt suit him, he is obviously most effective on the right of a 4-4-2, a formation we had no intention of playing this season. I can actually see him being more influential in CM, where he will be able to use his other strength, which is his ability to shoot from distance. Why do we buy players that blatantly won't fit in? We are a footballing side, yet we spend up to 16M on a striker who can't play football (Bent) and spend a similar amount on a RM who is best played in a 4-4-2, then play him in a 4-5-1. Doesnt make sense.
Guyver
Bentley is fast assuming the mantle which JJ has had for several seasons, that of whipping boy. Anything wrong is his fault, and no credit for the good things. Of course Bentley is useless, thats why not only us, but Aston Villa, had had a bid of 15M accepted for him. As we all know Martin O Neil gets it wrong all the time, no eye for a player. I suppose it has never struck anybody that we have failed to play Bentley in the role in which he shone at Blackburn, why dont we stick him in goal and give him a go, you never know. Be fair to the guy and give him half a chance, he has one definate asset, he actually wants to play for us, which is more than can be said for some, by the look of their performances.
Frank
Bentley is fast assuming the mantle which JJ has had for several seasons, that of whipping boy. Anything wrong is his fault, and no credit for the good things. Of course Bentley is useless, thats why not only us, but Aston Villa, had had a bid of 15M accepted for him. As we all know Martin O Neil gets it wrong all the time, no eye for a player. I suppose it has never struck anybody that we have failed to play Bentley in the role in which he shone at Blackburn, why dont we stick him in goal and give him a go, you never know. Be fair to the guy and give him half a chance, he has one definate asset, he actually wants to play for us, which is more than can be said for some, by the look of their performances.
Frank
Shadowmonkey, id like to see u having lots of chances but not delivering when ur payed 30k? a WEEK.
meee93
Shadowmonkey, id like to see u having lots of chances but not delivering when ur payed 30k? a WEEK.
meee93
ps i did stick up for lennon and liked him as a player but my previous comments the arguement many would take.
meee93
ps i did stick up for lennon and liked him as a player but my previous comments the arguement many would take.
meee93
Chris hart: The difference is Beckham can cross but still his performances dipped when he lost a yard of pace hence the reason he was sold by man u and then was really bought by them other clubs for global marketing. As for Bentley he needs to vary his game surly he realizes that he hasn't got a Santa Cruz in the team therefore he needs to come up with something different not continuously send in high crosses that the defense seem to deal with easily. Take Lennon for example he can cross high when need be but he also crosses low drilled balls which look far more dangerous. That's why i said Santa Cruz made him look good because he made his crossing look good by some good movement and some great headers but without someone like that Bentley offers very little.
spurfect one
Chris hart: The difference is Beckham can cross but still his performances dipped when he lost a yard of pace hence the reason he was sold by man u and then was really bought by them other clubs for global marketing. As for Bentley he needs to vary his game surly he realizes that he hasn't got a Santa Cruz in the team therefore he needs to come up with something different not continuously send in high crosses that the defense seem to deal with easily. Take Lennon for example he can cross high when need be but he also crosses low drilled balls which look far more dangerous. That's why i said Santa Cruz made him look good because he made his crossing look good by some good movement and some great headers but without someone like that Bentley offers very little.
spurfect one
Frank the interesting this with Villa is that they also play a 4-3-3, the suggested formation Ramos was looking at, the difference being that he didnt already have a quality RM at the time. I actually think that Bentley would have done far better at either Villa or Liverpool where he would have been played to his strengths and not forced to fit in to our system.
oxfordspur
Frank the interesting this with Villa is that they also play a 4-3-3, the suggested formation Ramos was looking at, the difference being that he didnt already have a quality RM at the time. I actually think that Bentley would have done far better at either Villa or Liverpool where he would have been played to his strengths and not forced to fit in to our system.
oxfordspur
jenas does good things, bentley does not.he made one clearance yesterday, he is ****. i already ranted about him on the LW page so cant be bothered again. he is all about himself and lookin for glory for him, not looking for teammates. if you think he's a good player your an idiot, end of.
gabotheyido
jenas does good things, bentley does not.he made one clearance yesterday, he is ****. i already ranted about him on the LW page so cant be bothered again. he is all about himself and lookin for glory for him, not looking for teammates. if you think he's a good player your an idiot, end of.
gabotheyido
frank, just coz we spent a fortune on him doesnt mean he's good! jeesus
gabotheyido
frank, just coz we spent a fortune on him doesnt mean he's good! jeesus
gabotheyido
reading some of these posts i wonder if the world has gone mad........
gabotheyido
reading some of these posts i wonder if the world has gone mad........
gabotheyido
LOL gabotheyid i thought the same.
spurfect one
LOL gabotheyid i thought the same.
spurfect one
If you read what I said gabotheyido, I did not say that because we paid a lot for him it makes him a good player. What I said was that a better judge than anybody we have/had, namely Martin O Neil, had also had a bid of 15M accepted. This suggests to me that he is a better player than we are able to prove in our use of him. O Neils record in the transfer market compared to ours in recent seasons suggests he doesnt get it wrong half as often as we do. That was my point.
Frank
If you read what I said gabotheyido, I did not say that because we paid a lot for him it makes him a good player. What I said was that a better judge than anybody we have/had, namely Martin O Neil, had also had a bid of 15M accepted. This suggests to me that he is a better player than we are able to prove in our use of him. O Neils record in the transfer market compared to ours in recent seasons suggests he doesnt get it wrong half as often as we do. That was my point.
Frank
i wanta left footed player playin Lw i want a right footed RW, why is he playin bently he hes not deserve a place.....lennon has to be on right why is he on left just to accomadate bently, we werent happy when ramos was doing it.
123spurs
i wanta left footed player playin Lw i want a right footed RW, why is he playin bently he hes not deserve a place.....lennon has to be on right why is he on left just to accomadate bently, we werent happy when ramos was doing it.
123spurs
Totally agree with AussieSpur, OxfordSpur and Frank, we've not given Bentley a chance to play to his strengths a sign of the chaos of the Comolli/Ramos era. Sadly I think that both Lennon and Modric will be off soon, Lennon coveted by the likes of Liverpool and Modric by Juventus. Strangely enough though this might be of huge benefit to the team if we sign a speedy LW, play 4-4-2 and have a quick RB in Hutton/Gunter overlapping Bentley, we will actually be a better side. No-one wants to lose Lennon, but with a silly money bid, a step backwards might ultimately lead to 3 or 4 steps forward. If we were to sell Lennon for 20m and be able to sign Kightly from Wolves and Johnson from 'Boro plus have cash in the bank, would we have come worst out of the deal?
Kernowboy71
Totally agree with AussieSpur, OxfordSpur and Frank, we've not given Bentley a chance to play to his strengths a sign of the chaos of the Comolli/Ramos era. Sadly I think that both Lennon and Modric will be off soon, Lennon coveted by the likes of Liverpool and Modric by Juventus. Strangely enough though this might be of huge benefit to the team if we sign a speedy LW, play 4-4-2 and have a quick RB in Hutton/Gunter overlapping Bentley, we will actually be a better side. No-one wants to lose Lennon, but with a silly money bid, a step backwards might ultimately lead to 3 or 4 steps forward. If we were to sell Lennon for 20m and be able to sign Kightly from Wolves and Johnson from 'Boro plus have cash in the bank, would we have come worst out of the deal?
Kernowboy71
If we were to sign someone like Ashton, partner him with Kightly and have Johnson and Bentley on the flanks we'd have a similar attack to Villa with Carew/Agbonlahor supported by Young and Milner. Just a thought.
Kernowboy71
If we were to sign someone like Ashton, partner him with Kightly and have Johnson and Bentley on the flanks we'd have a similar attack to Villa with Carew/Agbonlahor supported by Young and Milner. Just a thought.
Kernowboy71
I don't want to see Lennon go rather Bentley go. I think Lennon is the type of player Spurs fans like to watch, he is exciting and IMO is improving. Bentley probably needs more time and TBH I don't know why we even signed him, it was always going to be hard to accommodate both him and Lennon. Ramos should have got lennon playing like Harry has instead of bringing in another RW player. If he had got Lennon playing we wouldn'thave needed Bentley and this would have saved us lots of money. IMO Ramos was the problem buying players that we didn't need because he couldn't get the players we have to perform. Since Harry has come there have been the likes of Lennon, Daws, Bent, JJ, Hudd, Zakora, Ekotto, Corluka, Modric that have all improved their game. Ok Ekotto is still weak at times and so is Bent and Jj and Hudd but they have improved and Lennon for one has improved the most and is the most consistent player this season. Bentley wasn't needed would rather had KPB or Tarbaat given run out. Now we have him though I guess we need to see if we can get the best out of him but not over Lennon. Both need to fight for that RW and not accommodated at the expense of a left sided player,
loz
I don't want to see Lennon go rather Bentley go. I think Lennon is the type of player Spurs fans like to watch, he is exciting and IMO is improving. Bentley probably needs more time and TBH I don't know why we even signed him, it was always going to be hard to accommodate both him and Lennon. Ramos should have got lennon playing like Harry has instead of bringing in another RW player. If he had got Lennon playing we wouldn'thave needed Bentley and this would have saved us lots of money. IMO Ramos was the problem buying players that we didn't need because he couldn't get the players we have to perform. Since Harry has come there have been the likes of Lennon, Daws, Bent, JJ, Hudd, Zakora, Ekotto, Corluka, Modric that have all improved their game. Ok Ekotto is still weak at times and so is Bent and Jj and Hudd but they have improved and Lennon for one has improved the most and is the most consistent player this season. Bentley wasn't needed would rather had KPB or Tarbaat given run out. Now we have him though I guess we need to see if we can get the best out of him but not over Lennon. Both need to fight for that RW and not accommodated at the expense of a left sided player,
loz
fair enough frank, but when he's been on the right he's been just as bad,if not worse.
gabotheyido
fair enough frank, but when he's been on the right he's been just as bad,if not worse.
gabotheyido
incidentally, seeing as huddlestone is clearly one of the best passers in the prem. why is he not taking corners? i know he's a big lad and fairly useful in the air but i cant even remember seeing a good ball put in from a spurs corner? and why is bentley taking them from the right? clearly inswinging corners are far easier to attck in the air than outswingers??? i like harry redknapp a lot but this to me is pure common sense/physics!
gabotheyido
incidentally, seeing as huddlestone is clearly one of the best passers in the prem. why is he not taking corners? i know he's a big lad and fairly useful in the air but i cant even remember seeing a good ball put in from a spurs corner? and why is bentley taking them from the right? clearly inswinging corners are far easier to attck in the air than outswingers??? i like harry redknapp a lot but this to me is pure common sense/physics!
gabotheyido
Ox I like and respect your posts but you have gone STARK RAVING MAD!!! he had a shocker. Know doubt he is talented but is lazy and just has not delivered, I admit I can't stand the man but I'm desperate for him to succeed I think I'd want Hitler to succeed in a Spurs shirt to be frank, I'm starting to scare myself so I think I'll go.
spurdon
Ox I like and respect your posts but you have gone STARK RAVING MAD!!! he had a shocker. Know doubt he is talented but is lazy and just has not delivered, I admit I can't stand the man but I'm desperate for him to succeed I think I'd want Hitler to succeed in a Spurs shirt to be frank, I'm starting to scare myself so I think I'll go.
spurdon
Funny thing is, if we did as many suggest we do and play to Bentleys strengths by changing the system, I feel Lennons game will start to suffer as he will be expected to play more like Bentley ie staying wide and swinging in crosses.
Guyver
Funny thing is, if we did as many suggest we do and play to Bentleys strengths by changing the system, I feel Lennons game will start to suffer as he will be expected to play more like Bentley ie staying wide and swinging in crosses.
Guyver
give bently a chance he is ment to be an expert at crossing, free kicks an corners an at that he us utter useless,
123spurs
give bently a chance he is ment to be an expert at crossing, free kicks an corners an at that he us utter useless,
123spurs
It has got to be said quite a lot of player`s we have either sold on or just let go for one reason or another seem to have been played out of position , our coaching staff and management tend to put player`s into a position that they see that they can adopt to rather than find out how comfortable the player would be , a player would rather say yes boss i can play there as opposed to being badly thought of or even left on the bench , some of those player`s that have moved on to other club`s all seem to be played in their true position , for the love of it i can`t understand a player being bought for big money in a position he was scouted for and then being played in an entirely opposite position where he would even have to kick with his weak foot , even if a club is in dire straight`s and must see no other option but to play a player out of position that to me is still weakening the team , i know its a chance to play a youngster in the premiership without the experience but at least he would be used to that position , from the reserves to the premiership is one hugh leap but so is a wrong player in a wrong position or even playing a player from the championship league is a powerful gamble !
POP
It has got to be said quite a lot of player`s we have either sold on or just let go for one reason or another seem to have been played out of position , our coaching staff and management tend to put player`s into a position that they see that they can adopt to rather than find out how comfortable the player would be , a player would rather say yes boss i can play there as opposed to being badly thought of or even left on the bench , some of those player`s that have moved on to other club`s all seem to be played in their true position , for the love of it i can`t understand a player being bought for big money in a position he was scouted for and then being played in an entirely opposite position where he would even have to kick with his weak foot , even if a club is in dire straight`s and must see no other option but to play a player out of position that to me is still weakening the team , i know its a chance to play a youngster in the premiership without the experience but at least he would be used to that position , from the reserves to the premiership is one hugh leap but so is a wrong player in a wrong position or even playing a player from the championship league is a powerful gamble !
POP
Shadowmonkey, the comments i made about Aaron Lennon were not my opinions, they were those of the majority of posters on here, i was one of the few that stuck up for him although i will admit my support for him wavered during pre season, the major reason we signed Bentley was because Lennon was not performing very well, his improvement this season has been nothing short of remarkable and Loz i would not credit H with that, Lennon has been our most consistent performer since the start of the season. Shadowmonkey i was pretty usefull at swinging in more than half decent crosses, even if i say so myself, i was more similar to Lennon than Bentley as it happens
Aussie'spur
Shadowmonkey, the comments i made about Aaron Lennon were not my opinions, they were those of the majority of posters on here, i was one of the few that stuck up for him although i will admit my support for him wavered during pre season, the major reason we signed Bentley was because Lennon was not performing very well, his improvement this season has been nothing short of remarkable and Loz i would not credit H with that, Lennon has been our most consistent performer since the start of the season. Shadowmonkey i was pretty usefull at swinging in more than half decent crosses, even if i say so myself, i was more similar to Lennon than Bentley as it happens
Aussie'spur
I agree 100% Ox... what amazes me is how people watch the same game but see different things. Bentley's corners were not all bad. He consistently hits 50/50 in terms of location anf his free kicks are as dangerous as ever. In the last 2 League games at least one FK stretched the GK. The final minutes of the Newcastle game saw great deliveries to the area with noone capable of finishing. I absolutely agree about the attacking defender but we also need a strong striker.
USTHFCFAN

Pav
Modric
Downing Jenas Hudd Bentley
Bale king woody hutton
gomie
silent_but_ledley

Pav
Modric
Downing Jenas Hudd Bentley
Bale king woody hutton
gomie
silent_but_ledley
LOL sell lennon and buy kightly and johnson? crazy people
silent_but_ledley
LOL sell lennon and buy kightly and johnson? crazy people
silent_but_ledley
 

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2. Real Deal 201
3. 80deg16minW 200
4. Spurfect11 198
5. Spursex 196
6. MAN ON! 188
7. Slurms McKenzie 150
8. Big Chiv 124
9. USAFSPURS 119
10. BigSpursFan 118

League Results (view all)

Latest Results
Man City 4 - 1 Spurs
Spurs 1 - 0 Southampton
Arsenal 1 - 1 Spurs
Spurs 0 - 1 WBA
Sunderland 2 - 2 Spurs
Spurs 0 - 3 Liverpool

League Table (view table)

Team P W D L GD Pts
6. Man Utd 8 3 3 2 3 12
7. Arsenal 8 2 5 1 2 11
8. Swansea 8 3 2 3 1 11
9. Spurs 8 3 2 3 -1 11
10. Stoke 8 3 2 3 -1 11
11. Hull City 8 2 4 2 0 10
12. Aston Villa 8 3 1 4 -8 10

Breaking League News

Going for Three Points This Time!
Chelsea : 24/10/2014 22:00:00
Liverpool: Lawro Predicts 2014-15 - Hull (Home)
Liverpool : 24/10/2014 20:00:00
Villa to Sign Cleverley in January!
Man Utd : 24/10/2014 18:43:00
Pearson On Competition amp; Swansea Threat
Leicester City : 24/10/2014 18:31:00
Pellegrini Expecting Tough West Ham Test
Man City : 24/10/2014 18:17:00

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Your prediction for Spurs v Asteras?
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Spurs Win! 76%
Draw? 12%
Greek Tragedy! 12%