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Is it just me, or did Bentley play well?

Is it just me, or did Bentley play well?

Watching Tottenham in recent games I have taken a particular interest in David Bentley, Surely this player isn't as bad as seemingly every Spurs fan claims...

One thing that I noticed is that he works deceptively hard and despite accusations to the contrary he tracks back all the time and cover's a huge amount of ground, I would guess that yesterday he probably put in more miles than any other Spurs player..

I have to accept that the main reasons we bought him haven't been a success, his crossing and dead balls have been disappointing. but I have to ask if his problems are in part our own making? Bentley isn't a left sided player and although I would suggest that his wrong foot is certainly better than the average footballer, it isn't good enough to be comfortable playing on the left, particularly, when his game is all about delivery and not running at defenders.

Also it seems to me that despite lacking obvious success he has never hidden. His workrate for me was exceptional yesterday, but he was slated terribly for his performance, in several site ratings he was given a 3 out of 10 which was quite ridiculous from what I was watching. I saw a player who worked well, if not exceptionally and is if anything trying too hard to impress and in doing so is missing the main reasons for his being on the pitch in the first place...

It always saddens me that we as Spurs fans have so many players we love to hate and seem totally blind to what they actually do for the team. When we consider players like Jenas, Bent, Dawson, Ekotto, Zokora and now Bentley, are all players fans almost seem to enjoy hating. In truth all have their limitations, but who doesn't? Perhaps in the cases of some, the burden of a huge feel plays more on the minds of the fans than the players themselves.

I have written on several occasions that Bentley is being asked to play a completely different game to the one he played at Blackburn. When he was played on the right he had the attack minded Brett Emerton to support and overlap, allowing him to come inside, either in midfield or in support of the attack. I thought he was beginning to show his best form when we had Alan Hutton behind him and felt they were a potentially very strong pairing. At Spurs we are altering his position and personnel game on game, but expect him to be excellent, which is unrealistic. Perhaps in accepting he is doing a job for the team and putting them over his personal glory, we would see a different player and not see an £18 million price tag, every time a free kick goes astray...

I fully expect to be in a small minority over my feelings for Bentley and maybe it is just me that thinks he is doing far more than we are giving him credit for, but perhaps we as fans need to look at our own opinions and how we view our players, because I genuinely feel we are expecting too much from so many and completely miss what is staring us in the face...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Monday December 22 2008
Time: 9:51AM

Comments

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well out of about 5 or more corners yesterday , not one of them was in a good position, starting to fell he is just as inconsistent if not worse than Jenas. No doubt who our best player is thought >>>Luka Modric
No1Yido
22/12/2008 10:04:00
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well out of about 5 or more corners yesterday , not one of them was in a good position, starting to fell he is just as inconsistent if not worse than Jenas. No doubt who our best player is thought >>>Luka Modric
No1Yido
22/12/2008 10:04:00
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so Modric will be off in the summer then...
The Tailor
22/12/2008 10:10:00
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so Modric will be off in the summer then...
The Tailor
22/12/2008 10:10:00
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No1, I agree his dead balls are falling way below his norm, but I think that so many are isolating his performance purely on his final ball and ignoring his allround game, nuch in the same way people do with JJ..
oxfordspur
22/12/2008 10:22:00
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No1, I agree his dead balls are falling way below his norm, but I think that so many are isolating his performance purely on his final ball and ignoring his allround game, nuch in the same way people do with JJ..
oxfordspur
22/12/2008 10:22:00
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Bentley is a very good player - So is JJ, Hudd and ZOK BUT BUT BUT neither of them is a driving force, a Dominator of the midfield they are very very good supporting midfielders BUt they cannot LEAD and take the game by the scruff of the neck. A Roy Keane or Edgar Davids in the middle of them would galvanise, take charge and drag them through in tight spots and see games out. Thats the problem!
michael.thfc
22/12/2008 10:39:00
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Bentley is a very good player - So is JJ, Hudd and ZOK BUT BUT BUT neither of them is a driving force, a Dominator of the midfield they are very very good supporting midfielders BUt they cannot LEAD and take the game by the scruff of the neck. A Roy Keane or Edgar Davids in the middle of them would galvanise, take charge and drag them through in tight spots and see games out. Thats the problem!
michael.thfc
22/12/2008 10:39:00
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Totally agree OX...Luka is being hailed by many as a future legend etc etc now that he is playing in his position but quite frankly under Ramos he was a liability. If we play Bentley on the right with an overlapping fullback and a CF who can head the ball Bentley will justify his price tag...
shedboy1
22/12/2008 10:41:00
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Totally agree OX...Luka is being hailed by many as a future legend etc etc now that he is playing in his position but quite frankly under Ramos he was a liability. If we play Bentley on the right with an overlapping fullback and a CF who can head the ball Bentley will justify his price tag...
shedboy1
22/12/2008 10:41:00
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Yeah Bentley is probably the most technically gifted footballer, maybe bar Modric, we have. His ball control is fantastic and his lack of delivery is through pressure to do well not his quality. Beckham was the same at his age and he turned out to be a fantastic player. As will Bentley. Yesterday I thought we put in a good performance and definitely didn't deserve to lose.
Eemton
22/12/2008 10:46:00
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Yeah Bentley is probably the most technically gifted footballer, maybe bar Modric, we have. His ball control is fantastic and his lack of delivery is through pressure to do well not his quality. Beckham was the same at his age and he turned out to be a fantastic player. As will Bentley. Yesterday I thought we put in a good performance and definitely didn't deserve to lose.
Eemton
22/12/2008 10:46:00
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I agree with shedboy1 - play him in his proper position - but then where does Lennon play ?? On he left??
SUper Yido
22/12/2008 10:48:00
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I agree with shedboy1 - play him in his proper position - but then where does Lennon play ?? On he left??
SUper Yido
22/12/2008 10:48:00
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Well said Ox, and i am so pleased you had the guts to say so, I watched the game yesterday and i thought Bentley did more than ok. Why is it that we drag down a lot of our players. Bentleys work rate is second to none, and where is this so called ego problem of his ?? What evidence of egotism has he shown ? The boy is a definite believer in his own ability, if that makes him egotistical then so be it, maybe if we could give him half a chance by playing him in his prefered position he might satisfy some of the boo boys. Once again well said Ox.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:03:00
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Well said Ox, and i am so pleased you had the guts to say so, I watched the game yesterday and i thought Bentley did more than ok. Why is it that we drag down a lot of our players. Bentleys work rate is second to none, and where is this so called ego problem of his ?? What evidence of egotism has he shown ? The boy is a definite believer in his own ability, if that makes him egotistical then so be it, maybe if we could give him half a chance by playing him in his prefered position he might satisfy some of the boo boys. Once again well said Ox.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:03:00
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see yesterday i think it would have made sence to put bentley on the right and lennon on the left as enrique is quick but not the best techniqual defender and i think lennon would have had more joy against beye, bentley certainly would have against enrique. TT , i dont think he will this summer , but unless we start to improve within the next couple of year i do rekon he will be off. Ox, he does get more stick than others, but with his massive ego he should deal with it.
No1Yido
22/12/2008 11:09:00
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see yesterday i think it would have made sence to put bentley on the right and lennon on the left as enrique is quick but not the best techniqual defender and i think lennon would have had more joy against beye, bentley certainly would have against enrique. TT , i dont think he will this summer , but unless we start to improve within the next couple of year i do rekon he will be off. Ox, he does get more stick than others, but with his massive ego he should deal with it.
No1Yido
22/12/2008 11:09:00
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You know Bentley isn't one of my faves Ox, but I honestly thought he had another shocker yesterday. Some of his corners were a huge improvement on previous games, but were still failing to reach anyone. Delivery is supposed to be his best attribute but all he seems capable of at the moment is little flicks that get us nowhere. I really hope he does come good, but time is ticking and half a season through, at around £16m he's beginning to look like one of the worst pieces of business in the clubs history. Come on Bentley, prove me wrong!
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 11:12:00
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Aussie , how about when he was 'fitigued' so he couldnt possibly represent his country. I like him but just fell he might not settle in here , i hope he does, because on his day he is one of the best in the country but , his days are few and far between.
No1Yido
22/12/2008 11:12:00
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You know Bentley isn't one of my faves Ox, but I honestly thought he had another shocker yesterday. Some of his corners were a huge improvement on previous games, but were still failing to reach anyone. Delivery is supposed to be his best attribute but all he seems capable of at the moment is little flicks that get us nowhere. I really hope he does come good, but time is ticking and half a season through, at around £16m he's beginning to look like one of the worst pieces of business in the clubs history. Come on Bentley, prove me wrong!
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 11:12:00
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Aussie , how about when he was 'fitigued' so he couldnt possibly represent his country. I like him but just fell he might not settle in here , i hope he does, because on his day he is one of the best in the country but , his days are few and far between.
No1Yido
22/12/2008 11:12:00
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we paid 16m for him but when watford wanted 11m for Young we said No..No..No , another good bit of business by levy there then.
No1Yido
22/12/2008 11:14:00
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we paid 16m for him but when watford wanted 11m for Young we said No..No..No , another good bit of business by levy there then.
No1Yido
22/12/2008 11:14:00
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its a lot of money though for somebody who works hard. His crossing and free kicks have been abysmal so far this season. to be fair he has been played about the pitch a bit but hes a quality footballer and should be able to adapt.
spursbhoy
22/12/2008 11:16:00
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its a lot of money though for somebody who works hard. His crossing and free kicks have been abysmal so far this season. to be fair he has been played about the pitch a bit but hes a quality footballer and should be able to adapt.
spursbhoy
22/12/2008 11:16:00
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No1Yiddo, fair enough mate but your living in the past, it was two years ago [?] that Bentley said that, and maybe he was fatigued how do you know he was'nt and in any case how does that make him egotistical ???? Like wise with Ashley young again it was two years ago, 11m for a championship player in 2006 sounds a lot riskier than 15m for a proven prem player with England caps too his name .
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:23:00
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One of my mates who is a fellow Yid put it this way 'For Bentley to have a really good game he has to be the best player on the pitch and he will on do that every 5-6 games' and I think that is well said - the whole team and all the other plaers have to be at their best - but my argument is not about his heart its about his final ball - which is the reason we signed him - I think i'd like to see Bentle and Lennon switching flanks during the games - Bentley cutting in off the left is dangerous but at the same time his delivery needs to improve big time - his corners and free kicks are weak at the best of times - and I thought JJ had a poor delivery !
SUper Yido
22/12/2008 11:23:00
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No1Yiddo, fair enough mate but your living in the past, it was two years ago [?] that Bentley said that, and maybe he was fatigued how do you know he was'nt and in any case how does that make him egotistical ???? Like wise with Ashley young again it was two years ago, 11m for a championship player in 2006 sounds a lot riskier than 15m for a proven prem player with England caps too his name .
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:23:00
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One of my mates who is a fellow Yid put it this way 'For Bentley to have a really good game he has to be the best player on the pitch and he will on do that every 5-6 games' and I think that is well said - the whole team and all the other plaers have to be at their best - but my argument is not about his heart its about his final ball - which is the reason we signed him - I think i'd like to see Bentle and Lennon switching flanks during the games - Bentley cutting in off the left is dangerous but at the same time his delivery needs to improve big time - his corners and free kicks are weak at the best of times - and I thought JJ had a poor delivery !
SUper Yido
22/12/2008 11:23:00
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Excuse the mistakes but I wrote that in a bit of passion behind me!!
SUper Yido
22/12/2008 11:24:00
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Excuse the mistakes but I wrote that in a bit of passion behind me!!
SUper Yido
22/12/2008 11:24:00
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but young was in the prem with watford and showed he has got ldza ability and potential. Like i said i want bentley to do well but i just cant see it happening for him at tottenham, bearing in mind he had played no more games in that season than any1 else he shouldnt have been any more 'fatigued' than any other players should he??
No1Yido
22/12/2008 11:26:00
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but young was in the prem with watford and showed he has got ldza ability and potential. Like i said i want bentley to do well but i just cant see it happening for him at tottenham, bearing in mind he had played no more games in that season than any1 else he shouldnt have been any more 'fatigued' than any other players should he??
No1Yido
22/12/2008 11:26:00
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Apologys about Watford being in the prem, but in all honesty they still are/were a Championship side that were in the prem, so ime sort of right lol. Ime confused No1yido about how his claims to be fatigued would make him egotistical/bigheaded ?
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:33:00
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Apologys about Watford being in the prem, but in all honesty they still are/were a Championship side that were in the prem, so ime sort of right lol. Ime confused No1yido about how his claims to be fatigued would make him egotistical/bigheaded ?
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:33:00
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Aus - If our scouting networks were working correctly, we should have spotted the potential in Young a mile off. He was playing in the prem when we were linked (for watford) andwas by far their best player. You can argue it was a risk, but if our people behind the scenes are doing their job right, we should have known about how good he was. He's now arguably one of the hottest prospects in english football!
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 11:39:00
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Aus - If our scouting networks were working correctly, we should have spotted the potential in Young a mile off. He was playing in the prem when we were linked (for watford) andwas by far their best player. You can argue it was a risk, but if our people behind the scenes are doing their job right, we should have known about how good he was. He's now arguably one of the hottest prospects in english football!
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 11:39:00
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If we had bought young would we have got the best out of him? Are we getting the best out of Bentley? Most of the time you play balls into space...and if people arn't attacking that space you can look foolish now I know that Bentley's deliveries have not been consistent but I have seen some great deliveries and no-one trying to get on the end of them...give him time on the right it will come. As for Lennon he's upped his game I think Arry has to decide who plays depending on the opposition...
shedboy1
22/12/2008 11:43:00
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If we had bought young would we have got the best out of him? Are we getting the best out of Bentley? Most of the time you play balls into space...and if people arn't attacking that space you can look foolish now I know that Bentley's deliveries have not been consistent but I have seen some great deliveries and no-one trying to get on the end of them...give him time on the right it will come. As for Lennon he's upped his game I think Arry has to decide who plays depending on the opposition...
shedboy1
22/12/2008 11:43:00
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Had Bentley been bought from a championship side or had come through from our stiffs everyone would be saying " how well he is doing" thing is he did'nt and because we paid 15m for him i think we expect too much, i know its an odd analogy but that is how it is, its all about how much we paid for him.....and the expectations to justify the amount spent,as i have said, had he come through from our stiffs would we be questioning his worth to the first team ?????????/
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:44:00
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Had Bentley been bought from a championship side or had come through from our stiffs everyone would be saying " how well he is doing" thing is he did'nt and because we paid 15m for him i think we expect too much, i know its an odd analogy but that is how it is, its all about how much we paid for him.....and the expectations to justify the amount spent,as i have said, had he come through from our stiffs would we be questioning his worth to the first team ?????????/
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:44:00
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Oxford, exactly what Bentley cost Spurs is generally unknown to the general public, however we are led to believe by the media it ranges somewhere between 15 and 18 million pounds stirling. The question I now pose is the following, bearing in mind what we have seen and know of David Bentley as a Spurs player, if he was currently with another club would you go and pay 15 to 18 million for him?
denboy
22/12/2008 11:45:00
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Oxford, exactly what Bentley cost Spurs is generally unknown to the general public, however we are led to believe by the media it ranges somewhere between 15 and 18 million pounds stirling. The question I now pose is the following, bearing in mind what we have seen and know of David Bentley as a Spurs player, if he was currently with another club would you go and pay 15 to 18 million for him?
denboy
22/12/2008 11:45:00
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Young's fee was 8 mill plus add ons, which makes it even more depressing!
shelf16
22/12/2008 11:48:00
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A professional player can play anywhere. Zokora is a midfielder and played full back and in central defence. O'Hara is a midfielder and played as a left full back, in central midfield and left midfield. Lennon plays on the right, left and even behind the strikers. Hudd played as a central defender too. So why cannot Bentley play on both wings. I think that someone has to get hold of him and put his feet back on the ground.
Noel
22/12/2008 11:48:00
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Young's fee was 8 mill plus add ons, which makes it even more depressing!
shelf16
22/12/2008 11:48:00
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A professional player can play anywhere. Zokora is a midfielder and played full back and in central defence. O'Hara is a midfielder and played as a left full back, in central midfield and left midfield. Lennon plays on the right, left and even behind the strikers. Hudd played as a central defender too. So why cannot Bentley play on both wings. I think that someone has to get hold of him and put his feet back on the ground.
Noel
22/12/2008 11:48:00
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If David Bentley had had a couple of decent forwards to aim his crosses and passes too, then i think you would see a much improved David Bentley, and surely no one can deny that in the last two games the closest we have come to scoring has been from Bentleys magnificently taken free kick V Man U and the technicaly superb shot against West Ham both brilliantly saved, he was also twice unlucky with shots against Newcastle that were deflected or blocked. Please dont get me wrong, i have been disappointed in him, but nowhere near some of you guys.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:53:00
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If David Bentley had had a couple of decent forwards to aim his crosses and passes too, then i think you would see a much improved David Bentley, and surely no one can deny that in the last two games the closest we have come to scoring has been from Bentleys magnificently taken free kick V Man U and the technicaly superb shot against West Ham both brilliantly saved, he was also twice unlucky with shots against Newcastle that were deflected or blocked. Please dont get me wrong, i have been disappointed in him, but nowhere near some of you guys.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 11:53:00
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Ox, I have sympathy with your general point about criticising our players, but then that is just fans saying what they think, and as probably none of the players or Spurs management team read this site it won't affect them. I think the underlying problem is that we have a squad full of inconsistent players, some of whom can be excellent on their day, but those days are few and far between and never seem to occur all on the same day! As regards Bentley, I was one of those who thought he was over-rated before we signes him (and said so) so I am not surprised that many fans think he is playing poorly. He wasn't signed to "work hard" he was signed to create and score goals, and with the glorious exception of his stunner at the Emirates, he has not done this. IMO his problems are that he has no pace, takes too many touches to control the ball and fails to see good passing opprtunities, preferring to try to dribble past players when he doesn't really have the skill. It would be a mistake to play him in place of Lennon on the right at the moment because Lennon together with Modric are our only threats to create anything, but to be fair to the lad even if he was providing a steady stream of world-class crosses, there is ever anyone in the box to finish them off, as Lennon and Modric have discovered.
Jollyboysouting
22/12/2008 11:55:00
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Ox, I have sympathy with your general point about criticising our players, but then that is just fans saying what they think, and as probably none of the players or Spurs management team read this site it won't affect them. I think the underlying problem is that we have a squad full of inconsistent players, some of whom can be excellent on their day, but those days are few and far between and never seem to occur all on the same day! As regards Bentley, I was one of those who thought he was over-rated before we signes him (and said so) so I am not surprised that many fans think he is playing poorly. He wasn't signed to "work hard" he was signed to create and score goals, and with the glorious exception of his stunner at the Emirates, he has not done this. IMO his problems are that he has no pace, takes too many touches to control the ball and fails to see good passing opprtunities, preferring to try to dribble past players when he doesn't really have the skill. It would be a mistake to play him in place of Lennon on the right at the moment because Lennon together with Modric are our only threats to create anything, but to be fair to the lad even if he was providing a steady stream of world-class crosses, there is ever anyone in the box to finish them off, as Lennon and Modric have discovered.
Jollyboysouting
22/12/2008 11:55:00
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Aus - It not so much a matter of price. If he'd have cost us £500,000 from Rotherham and was putting in these kind of performances I'd still be equally critical. The fact is than in half a season he's not settled at all. He just doesn't fit our system. Its not that i think he's a bad player, far from it. I thought he was quality when playing for the enenmy in their "kids" teams, when he was on loan at Norwich and also at Blackburn. However, we play aim to play rapid, free-flowing football, which is something Bentley struggles to keep up with. Lennon is far better suited to this on our wing. The only way i can see Bentley being successful is to play in the central role, like Thudd does, but he would have to restrict what he tries to do. If he sits there and pings the ball about, he'd probably do ok, but Thudd is arguably better built for the role. Like i said, i hope he finds his stride, but i can't see it happening fo us
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 11:58:00
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Aus - It not so much a matter of price. If he'd have cost us £500,000 from Rotherham and was putting in these kind of performances I'd still be equally critical. The fact is than in half a season he's not settled at all. He just doesn't fit our system. Its not that i think he's a bad player, far from it. I thought he was quality when playing for the enenmy in their "kids" teams, when he was on loan at Norwich and also at Blackburn. However, we play aim to play rapid, free-flowing football, which is something Bentley struggles to keep up with. Lennon is far better suited to this on our wing. The only way i can see Bentley being successful is to play in the central role, like Thudd does, but he would have to restrict what he tries to do. If he sits there and pings the ball about, he'd probably do ok, but Thudd is arguably better built for the role. Like i said, i hope he finds his stride, but i can't see it happening fo us
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 11:58:00
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Noel you are quiet correct that a proffesional player can play anywhere, but not on a consistent basis. O'Hara played well at L/B in his first game but got found out the next time he played there, likewise with Zok at R/B, he had a couple of decent games there then got found out, same with Hudd at C/B, personaly i think that Bentley has made a good fist of playing on the left, as has Lennon to when he has played there. If a pro can play anywhere would you trust playing Pav at C/M for eg, i think not. Why try to fit square pegs in round holes ? In do understand what you are saying though.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:05:00
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Noel you are quiet correct that a proffesional player can play anywhere, but not on a consistent basis. O'Hara played well at L/B in his first game but got found out the next time he played there, likewise with Zok at R/B, he had a couple of decent games there then got found out, same with Hudd at C/B, personaly i think that Bentley has made a good fist of playing on the left, as has Lennon to when he has played there. If a pro can play anywhere would you trust playing Pav at C/M for eg, i think not. Why try to fit square pegs in round holes ? In do understand what you are saying though.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:05:00
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Personally, I never saw the point of getiing another right winger like bentley. We had lennon who was only going to get better, but yet again they ignored the left hand side of midfield and went after someone that was never going to fit into the squad we had!
Shadowmonkey
22/12/2008 12:13:00
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Personally, I never saw the point of getiing another right winger like bentley. We had lennon who was only going to get better, but yet again they ignored the left hand side of midfield and went after someone that was never going to fit into the squad we had!
Shadowmonkey
22/12/2008 12:13:00
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Dave you have put up some very good points and you may well be right, especially about not fitting "our system" maybe we should change our system eh, its hardly been productive over the last 50 years or so ? Sorry, ime being negative now but hopefully you will get my drift. At present i am not prepared to give up on him, I backed Lennon when the majority wanted him gone and he came good, so hopefully Bentley will do likewise. Hey Ox, wheres the support eh, i go out on a limb to back you and all i get in response is silence ?????? lol.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:17:00
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Dave you have put up some very good points and you may well be right, especially about not fitting "our system" maybe we should change our system eh, its hardly been productive over the last 50 years or so ? Sorry, ime being negative now but hopefully you will get my drift. At present i am not prepared to give up on him, I backed Lennon when the majority wanted him gone and he came good, so hopefully Bentley will do likewise. Hey Ox, wheres the support eh, i go out on a limb to back you and all i get in response is silence ?????? lol.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:17:00
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Shadow, at the time we bought Bentley, everyone else was writing Lennon off due to "cant cross, cant shoot, cant use his left foot, is one dimensional, is a one trick pony, have i kickstarted your memory.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:23:00
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Shadow, at the time we bought Bentley, everyone else was writing Lennon off due to "cant cross, cant shoot, cant use his left foot, is one dimensional, is a one trick pony, have i kickstarted your memory.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:23:00
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Aus mate - your doing a good job at defending him! When it comes down to it, we all have our opinions and most of us (me included) let our passion drive them. I want nothing more for him to do what he could do at his previous clubs, but for me at the moment, he looks like our poorest player on the field (bar anyone playing up front at the moment). Some people refuse to accept he (and Bale being another) are having these bad spells and feel they should be in the squad on reputation. The fact is that while others (Lennon in Bentleys case, BAE & O'Hara in Bales) are performing to a much better standard, they deserve to be playing week in week out. Bentley somehow manages to keep his place, while poor JO'H is constantly sat on the sidelines after putting in great performances when he does get on the field. If Bentley cost less, there would be less hesitation to drop him and the fans wouldn't be on his back every week because of his poor performances. Give him a break, show him he's not "untouchable" and let him come back to fight for his place!
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 12:31:00
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Aus mate - your doing a good job at defending him! When it comes down to it, we all have our opinions and most of us (me included) let our passion drive them. I want nothing more for him to do what he could do at his previous clubs, but for me at the moment, he looks like our poorest player on the field (bar anyone playing up front at the moment). Some people refuse to accept he (and Bale being another) are having these bad spells and feel they should be in the squad on reputation. The fact is that while others (Lennon in Bentleys case, BAE & O'Hara in Bales) are performing to a much better standard, they deserve to be playing week in week out. Bentley somehow manages to keep his place, while poor JO'H is constantly sat on the sidelines after putting in great performances when he does get on the field. If Bentley cost less, there would be less hesitation to drop him and the fans wouldn't be on his back every week because of his poor performances. Give him a break, show him he's not "untouchable" and let him come back to fight for his place!
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 12:31:00
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I haven't really criticised Bentley, the jury is still well out as far as I'm concerned. When we signed him, I thought that this would relegate Lennon to the bench with him having a "supersub" role to come on and run at tired defenders. Because Lennon's form has been so outstanding, Harry has tried to fit Bentley in on the left which hasn't worked brilliantly but I only judge players once they have had a decent run in their natural position. Due to form, if we sign a LW, Bentley will be on the bench I suspect which is unfair. The poor guy has been trying too hard and played on the wrong side, he just needs to relax and concentrate on his dead balls as his work rate IS good but and is still settling in. I disagree about good players playing out of position, it only works if they play on the same side, you wouldn't play O'Hara at RB would you FFS...
Chris Hart
22/12/2008 12:33:00
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I haven't really criticised Bentley, the jury is still well out as far as I'm concerned. When we signed him, I thought that this would relegate Lennon to the bench with him having a "supersub" role to come on and run at tired defenders. Because Lennon's form has been so outstanding, Harry has tried to fit Bentley in on the left which hasn't worked brilliantly but I only judge players once they have had a decent run in their natural position. Due to form, if we sign a LW, Bentley will be on the bench I suspect which is unfair. The poor guy has been trying too hard and played on the wrong side, he just needs to relax and concentrate on his dead balls as his work rate IS good but and is still settling in. I disagree about good players playing out of position, it only works if they play on the same side, you wouldn't play O'Hara at RB would you FFS...
Chris Hart
22/12/2008 12:33:00
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Chris - I'd be more comfortable with Lennon on the left and Bentley on the right. Lennon doesn't base his game on delivering crosses, so he should be able to run at players and cut in side no matter which wing he is playing on. He's also a much harder worker than Bentley and would aid BAE with the defensive duties on the left, whereas Charlie is more than capable of holding his own on the right.
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 12:43:00
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Chris - I'd be more comfortable with Lennon on the left and Bentley on the right. Lennon doesn't base his game on delivering crosses, so he should be able to run at players and cut in side no matter which wing he is playing on. He's also a much harder worker than Bentley and would aid BAE with the defensive duties on the left, whereas Charlie is more than capable of holding his own on the right.
Dave the Yid
22/12/2008 12:43:00
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Dave as i said previously, you put up an excellent argument, one that is hard for me to debate with you, as basically you are right, but i still feel that Bentley is worth his place in our best starting 11. One good thing to come out of this for me is to read fellow fans are not slating me or others, for my pro Bentley opinions, i know for a fact that had it been one particular poster in my position his replys and responses to others replys would not have been so amicable. Dave, its late over here and after sitting up last night till 2am to watch us lose in the 90th minute ime feeling rather stuffed, so ime out of here, later.......
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:47:00
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Dave as i said previously, you put up an excellent argument, one that is hard for me to debate with you, as basically you are right, but i still feel that Bentley is worth his place in our best starting 11. One good thing to come out of this for me is to read fellow fans are not slating me or others, for my pro Bentley opinions, i know for a fact that had it been one particular poster in my position his replys and responses to others replys would not have been so amicable. Dave, its late over here and after sitting up last night till 2am to watch us lose in the 90th minute ime feeling rather stuffed, so ime out of here, later.......
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:47:00
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I'm with Aussie and Ox, Bentley is nowhere near as bad as some of you guys make out. He put in a couple of crosses yesterday that Campbell really should have made more of. Maybe him and Santa Cruz are missing each other! I do feel that there is a lot more to come from Bentley though.
shelf16
22/12/2008 12:47:00
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I'm with Aussie and Ox, Bentley is nowhere near as bad as some of you guys make out. He put in a couple of crosses yesterday that Campbell really should have made more of. Maybe him and Santa Cruz are missing each other! I do feel that there is a lot more to come from Bentley though.
shelf16
22/12/2008 12:47:00
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CH, Spot on mate.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:52:00
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Santa Cruz would be a good signing but unsure about his loyalty, he is doing it to blackburn now by saying if a bigger club comes in i would like to move. I am not saying there is anything wrong with him wanting to leave blackburn, but if he does join spurs and does well i fell he could do the same to us.
No1Yido
22/12/2008 12:52:00
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CH, Spot on mate.
Aussie'spur
22/12/2008 12:52:00
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