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Don't Sell The Family Silver!!

Don't Sell The Family Silver!!

Mr Levy, if you truly harbour aspirations for Tottenham Hotspur to become an elite top four Premiership club, and hold realistic hopes of ever achieving those ambitions, you must resist any temptation to sell the family silver, no matter how much profit may be lying alluredly naked on the table, or indeed no matter which Greeks come bearing gifts at the White Hart Lane front door.

We need our team to be playing regularly and consistently in the great football stadia of Europe, and you are currently the only man who holds the key to unlocking those dreams.

The treasures I am of course referring to are the players who can help us achieve those aims.This would certainly include the likes of Luka Modric and Aaron Lennon.

These are two players who will undoubtedly attract a great deal of interest in the Summer most likely dare I say from the usual suspects who have a history and a tendency to sniff around our squad looking for likely conscripts.

The two major culprits with form to boot are Alex Ferguson of Manchester Utd and Rafa Benitez of Liverpool, and even at this early stage we are in the throes of press stories outlining our greatest fears.

You must without hesitation send them packing with a flea in their proverbial ear in order to allow our current manager Harry Redknapp to get on with his number one priority:- building a team that may one day challenge the best of them.

Anything less than this approach would be a dereliction of your duty and could cost us yet another manager and more unnecessary years spent in the wilderness.

Back your man with the cash to achieve our aims and it is conceivable that you may yet one day go down in Tottenham folklore and deserve a statue in your honour just like the legend that is 'Sir' Bill Nicholson.





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Writer:Hartfelt
Date:Saturday May 2 2009
Time: 10:47PM

Comments

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Absolutely, I'm fed up of us bending over and getting done up the @ss every time man u show an interest in our players. We need to take villa's stance and be more resolute. How can we ever be taken seriously if we continue to sell our best players.
spurfect one
02/05/2009 23:35:00
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Absolutely, I'm fed up of us bending over and getting done up the @ss every time man u show an interest in our players. We need to take villa's stance and be more resolute. How can we ever be taken seriously if we continue to sell our best players.
spurfect one
02/05/2009 23:35:00
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or do a zenit and just keep putting the price up
meee93
02/05/2009 23:36:00
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or do a zenit and just keep putting the price up
meee93
02/05/2009 23:36:00
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We will never grow if we keep selling. Simple as that. For instance, can you imagine the heights we could have accomplished if Berba and Carrick were still here? Absolutely key players, especially Carrick, which hit us hard for a while. I know its not as simple as that, but we pretty much had a completely different starting 11 in the CC final compared to last year. That's ridiculous. A team needs a while to play together before they are a strong unit, and we're starting to get there. Lennon and Modric are our 2 best players. If we sell them we may as well change the name of the club and move to Milton Keynes because I'm sick of us being a feeder club, helping United win the title.
bernio3000
02/05/2009 23:55:00
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We will never grow if we keep selling. Simple as that. For instance, can you imagine the heights we could have accomplished if Berba and Carrick were still here? Absolutely key players, especially Carrick, which hit us hard for a while. I know its not as simple as that, but we pretty much had a completely different starting 11 in the CC final compared to last year. That's ridiculous. A team needs a while to play together before they are a strong unit, and we're starting to get there. Lennon and Modric are our 2 best players. If we sell them we may as well change the name of the club and move to Milton Keynes because I'm sick of us being a feeder club, helping United win the title.
bernio3000
02/05/2009 23:55:00
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Berbatov and Keane both WANTED to leave! Levy didnt sell for money! I personally dont want players at the club if they dont really want to be there, but maybe thats just me? The problem isnt selling our best players, its not ******** replacing them! No ones irreplaceable, if they were then we would just of had to of given up after our Double last century!
Mex_yiddo
03/05/2009 00:04:00
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Berbatov and Keane both WANTED to leave! Levy didnt sell for money! I personally dont want players at the club if they dont really want to be there, but maybe thats just me? The problem isnt selling our best players, its not ******** replacing them! No ones irreplaceable, if they were then we would just of had to of given up after our Double last century!
Mex_yiddo
03/05/2009 00:04:00
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Gareth Barry wanted to leave Villa, that didnt mean that MON rolled over and let Liverpool get their way. We have aquired a reputation as a selling club and it is high time we put it to bed. We sold Carrick and damaged ourselves, and probably still havent recovered, we allowed both Berbatov and Keane to leave too easily, plunging ourselves into a potential relegation crisis, and now the whole world assumes that when the big 4 come calling we will sell Lennon, Modric and in a couple of seasons, when he is really blossoming, as he surely will, Palacios. We must ask the question, do we really want to get up there with the biggies or is it all hype. The only Tottenham players ever for sale should be those we want rid of, we are not, and never have been, skint so unlike Wigan, Portsmouth and the like we are not forced to sell financially so should keep our best players.
Frank
03/05/2009 00:21:00
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Gareth Barry wanted to leave Villa, that didnt mean that MON rolled over and let Liverpool get their way. We have aquired a reputation as a selling club and it is high time we put it to bed. We sold Carrick and damaged ourselves, and probably still havent recovered, we allowed both Berbatov and Keane to leave too easily, plunging ourselves into a potential relegation crisis, and now the whole world assumes that when the big 4 come calling we will sell Lennon, Modric and in a couple of seasons, when he is really blossoming, as he surely will, Palacios. We must ask the question, do we really want to get up there with the biggies or is it all hype. The only Tottenham players ever for sale should be those we want rid of, we are not, and never have been, skint so unlike Wigan, Portsmouth and the like we are not forced to sell financially so should keep our best players.
Frank
03/05/2009 00:21:00
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Spot on frank.
spurfect one
03/05/2009 00:31:00
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Spot on frank.
spurfect one
03/05/2009 00:31:00
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I can't believe so many people are still under the deluded idea that Levy wanted to sell any of Keane, Berba or Carrick? With the exception of Keane, the other two were coming towards the ends (last 18months) or so of their contracts, and had made it clear that they would not be staying, so we did some amazing business to get as much money as we could out of them rather than risk losing them like we did Sol. MON didn't stop Barry going to Liverpool, he just stuck to his price, if Liverpool had sold Alonso then Barry would of been brought in simple as, MON had little if anything to do about it. If Fergie or Rafa had not been willing to pay the 30m, 20m, or 18m we asked for our players then we would not of sold them. Levy is not to blame, he was caught between a rock and a hard place, and as Mex said its not who you sell its who you bring in to replace them with that counts and that is were we screwed up i.e. Zokora for Carrick, Pav for Berba, and Dos Santos or Modric for Keane. Selling Lennon or Modric is very very unlikely unless Harry wants them sold, they are both on very long contracts which protects the club for now, even if they hand in transfer requests we dont have to sell them, and because of their age they cannot use the buying out of contract rule that Berba could of exploited.
ManilaYid
03/05/2009 02:06:00
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I can't believe so many people are still under the deluded idea that Levy wanted to sell any of Keane, Berba or Carrick? With the exception of Keane, the other two were coming towards the ends (last 18months) or so of their contracts, and had made it clear that they would not be staying, so we did some amazing business to get as much money as we could out of them rather than risk losing them like we did Sol. MON didn't stop Barry going to Liverpool, he just stuck to his price, if Liverpool had sold Alonso then Barry would of been brought in simple as, MON had little if anything to do about it. If Fergie or Rafa had not been willing to pay the 30m, 20m, or 18m we asked for our players then we would not of sold them. Levy is not to blame, he was caught between a rock and a hard place, and as Mex said its not who you sell its who you bring in to replace them with that counts and that is were we screwed up i.e. Zokora for Carrick, Pav for Berba, and Dos Santos or Modric for Keane. Selling Lennon or Modric is very very unlikely unless Harry wants them sold, they are both on very long contracts which protects the club for now, even if they hand in transfer requests we dont have to sell them, and because of their age they cannot use the buying out of contract rule that Berba could of exploited.
ManilaYid
03/05/2009 02:06:00
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Spot on Manilla
Ossie
03/05/2009 02:33:00
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Spot on Manilla
Ossie
03/05/2009 02:33:00
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Frank you can not be more wrong. The situation with Barry was completly different. Barry did not threaten the manager that he wont play or anyhting and moreover it is the manger's decision not Levy's. MON decided he will keep Barry although he was unhappy and Juande desided unhappy players would disrupt dressing room morale. So levy had to sell Berba and keane and it was not for profit motives. He immedietly spent the 50 million in january,anyway. So we are lucky to have a great chairman like levy and many clubs would do anything for a chairman like him. I request you all to get behind levy as he is always backing the manager with funds.
Yid_from_India
03/05/2009 04:23:00
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Frank you can not be more wrong. The situation with Barry was completly different. Barry did not threaten the manager that he wont play or anyhting and moreover it is the manger's decision not Levy's. MON decided he will keep Barry although he was unhappy and Juande desided unhappy players would disrupt dressing room morale. So levy had to sell Berba and keane and it was not for profit motives. He immedietly spent the 50 million in january,anyway. So we are lucky to have a great chairman like levy and many clubs would do anything for a chairman like him. I request you all to get behind levy as he is always backing the manager with funds.
Yid_from_India
03/05/2009 04:23:00
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What's the diff, ManilaYid? By your reasoning, if Levy didb't want to sell Carrick, Keane or Berbatov he should and could have slapped on a price tag of 50m each for Carrick and Keane and 80m for Berbatov. Wouldn't that have been the same as saying no, fellas, the guy's simply too important to us and is not for sale? The diff is when the player himself has his heart in some other club and no longer wants to play for us. You could see it in Berbatov especially. It's the difference between the true professional who genuinely wants to better himself at a bigger club but who will knuckle down and graft if his dream move doesn't materialise (eg Gareth Barry) and the mercenary who sulks and only gives 10% if he doesn't get his move (Berbatov). It's all about character. From what I see, Lennon and Modric are not (I hope) Berbatovs. I say give them the contracts they so deserve and, if the MU's and Liverpools come calling, slap on a tag that effectively says NO WAY.
hiano
03/05/2009 04:39:00
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What's the diff, ManilaYid? By your reasoning, if Levy didb't want to sell Carrick, Keane or Berbatov he should and could have slapped on a price tag of 50m each for Carrick and Keane and 80m for Berbatov. Wouldn't that have been the same as saying no, fellas, the guy's simply too important to us and is not for sale? The diff is when the player himself has his heart in some other club and no longer wants to play for us. You could see it in Berbatov especially. It's the difference between the true professional who genuinely wants to better himself at a bigger club but who will knuckle down and graft if his dream move doesn't materialise (eg Gareth Barry) and the mercenary who sulks and only gives 10% if he doesn't get his move (Berbatov). It's all about character. From what I see, Lennon and Modric are not (I hope) Berbatovs. I say give them the contracts they so deserve and, if the MU's and Liverpools come calling, slap on a tag that effectively says NO WAY.
hiano
03/05/2009 04:39:00
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On a slightly different note, do we really need a left footed midfielder now? Look at how Modric has made left midfield his own. Whereas he was a little lightweight in central midfeld, he has been a revelation on the left flank. It allows him to go round defenders or to cut in and run at goal and he seems to enjoy every minute of this role. If only Jenas can impose himself more (and do it week in and week out), we'll have a heck of a midfield.
hiano
03/05/2009 04:57:00
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On a slightly different note, do we really need a left footed midfielder now? Look at how Modric has made left midfield his own. Whereas he was a little lightweight in central midfeld, he has been a revelation on the left flank. It allows him to go round defenders or to cut in and run at goal and he seems to enjoy every minute of this role. If only Jenas can impose himself more (and do it week in and week out), we'll have a heck of a midfield.
hiano
03/05/2009 04:57:00
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I agree hiano, i think modric should continue to play on the left. we dont even need a left sidded player as cover as gio,Bale,o hara and taarabt between them could cover for modric.
Yid_from_India
03/05/2009 06:47:00
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I agree hiano, i think modric should continue to play on the left. we dont even need a left sidded player as cover as gio,Bale,o hara and taarabt between them could cover for modric.
Yid_from_India
03/05/2009 06:47:00
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Luka is the Croatian Majician worth every penny compared to so many other players ,both him and Lennon are pure football gold' as good as anything on offer anywhere ,reading these posts I have seen JJ take abit of flak, but I like his attitude and I hope Harry keeps him ,Pavlucenko I would sell tommorow .Bent although maybe no true breakthrough player has been pretty good all round.
Uskok
03/05/2009 07:42:00
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Luka is the Croatian Majician worth every penny compared to so many other players ,both him and Lennon are pure football gold' as good as anything on offer anywhere ,reading these posts I have seen JJ take abit of flak, but I like his attitude and I hope Harry keeps him ,Pavlucenko I would sell tommorow .Bent although maybe no true breakthrough player has been pretty good all round.
Uskok
03/05/2009 07:42:00
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I read the first two lines of the article and couldn't stop laughing for nearly an hour. 'An elite top 4 Premiership club' ???? tottenham ???? You must be joking!! Will you yidiots never give up? The only way your rubbish will become 'top 4' is if the top 6 of this season leave to join an elite European League. Stick to mid-table mediocrity and be thankful you're not fighting relegation every season. Top 4, hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, YIDIOTS
bseymour
03/05/2009 07:55:00
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I read the first two lines of the article and couldn't stop laughing for nearly an hour. 'An elite top 4 Premiership club' ???? tottenham ???? You must be joking!! Will you yidiots never give up? The only way your rubbish will become 'top 4' is if the top 6 of this season leave to join an elite European League. Stick to mid-table mediocrity and be thankful you're not fighting relegation every season. Top 4, hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, YIDIOTS
bseymour
03/05/2009 07:55:00
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I agree with Frank. If we wanna keep our players, we keep our players. I would sit down with the group and explain to them that if they do not want to bleed for our shirt any more, I would call all our contacts in Spain, Italy, France, Germany and Holland and see if someone was interested. A move to another PL club is out of the question (Unless of course, we want to get rid of the player, like Chimbonda, Gilberto, Stlateri etc). Simple as that. Tottenham is not a showoff arena for the top four.
NorwaYid
03/05/2009 08:43:00
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I agree with Frank. If we wanna keep our players, we keep our players. I would sit down with the group and explain to them that if they do not want to bleed for our shirt any more, I would call all our contacts in Spain, Italy, France, Germany and Holland and see if someone was interested. A move to another PL club is out of the question (Unless of course, we want to get rid of the player, like Chimbonda, Gilberto, Stlateri etc). Simple as that. Tottenham is not a showoff arena for the top four.
NorwaYid
03/05/2009 08:43:00
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hartfelt,totally right,keep the usual dogs from the gate.so two ugly blokes on your bikes and do one.
bazdog
03/05/2009 09:35:00
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hartfelt,totally right,keep the usual dogs from the gate.so two ugly blokes on your bikes and do one.
bazdog
03/05/2009 09:35:00
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bseymour no we are'nt an elite club(we used to be)but there is no need to be insulting about it.The top four only sustain their status because of sky and champions league money.Spurs were elite when money was'nt a factor mate! Top four club fans make me laugh.They really do think they are special.The rest of the league cannot afford to be as good,that's the only reason.COYS!!!!
MrScary71
03/05/2009 10:26:00
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bseymour no we are'nt an elite club(we used to be)but there is no need to be insulting about it.The top four only sustain their status because of sky and champions league money.Spurs were elite when money was'nt a factor mate! Top four club fans make me laugh.They really do think they are special.The rest of the league cannot afford to be as good,that's the only reason.COYS!!!!
MrScary71
03/05/2009 10:26:00
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bseymour, you are an idiot. Read the article fully before commenting. It does not say that we are a elite top 4 club or will make top 4 next season. It says that if we harbour ambitions to ,one day become a top 4 club(which most clubs would) then we must start with keeping our best players and stop selling.
Yid_from_India
03/05/2009 11:07:00
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bseymour, you are an idiot. Read the article fully before commenting. It does not say that we are a elite top 4 club or will make top 4 next season. It says that if we harbour ambitions to ,one day become a top 4 club(which most clubs would) then we must start with keeping our best players and stop selling.
Yid_from_India
03/05/2009 11:07:00
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The gap between top 4 and the rest is based on 3 factors 1 Spending Power 2 Having a good manager (who can be attracted with a generous contract and the backing of an ambitious chairman) 3 Ground capacity to generate revenue. If a club can match these criteria, there is no reason why they can't make the CL. Spurs have a generous chairman who is prepared to put his money on the table and back his manager. Allegedly we will have a 58,000 capacity state of the art stadium within 5 years and we have a shrewd manager with the experience to take us to the top. The fact that he hasn't done it previously is simply because he hasn't had an opportunity to manage a wealthy club. However, selling our best players would make the manager's job impossible and we'll remain also-rans until that policy stops.
RonnyCOYS
03/05/2009 11:15:00
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The gap between top 4 and the rest is based on 3 factors 1 Spending Power 2 Having a good manager (who can be attracted with a generous contract and the backing of an ambitious chairman) 3 Ground capacity to generate revenue. If a club can match these criteria, there is no reason why they can't make the CL. Spurs have a generous chairman who is prepared to put his money on the table and back his manager. Allegedly we will have a 58,000 capacity state of the art stadium within 5 years and we have a shrewd manager with the experience to take us to the top. The fact that he hasn't done it previously is simply because he hasn't had an opportunity to manage a wealthy club. However, selling our best players would make the manager's job impossible and we'll remain also-rans until that policy stops.
RonnyCOYS
03/05/2009 11:15:00
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I suggest that posters ignore bseymour and don't rise to his bait. He is obviously an infantile attentionseeker whose mum has forgot to log off thus giving him access to the adult world. I hope he's an 8 year old and not a somewhat challenged adult. Should he have reached puberty already he is an example of why football fans are looked down on by many intelligent people. Bseymour, if you can't contribute anything intelligent please go back to your PlaDoh.
oldun
03/05/2009 12:42:00
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I suggest that posters ignore bseymour and don't rise to his bait. He is obviously an infantile attentionseeker whose mum has forgot to log off thus giving him access to the adult world. I hope he's an 8 year old and not a somewhat challenged adult. Should he have reached puberty already he is an example of why football fans are looked down on by many intelligent people. Bseymour, if you can't contribute anything intelligent please go back to your PlaDoh.
oldun
03/05/2009 12:42:00
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Spot on RonnyCOYS that is an absolutely accurate assessment.
Frank
03/05/2009 13:17:00
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Spot on RonnyCOYS that is an absolutely accurate assessment.
Frank
03/05/2009 13:17:00
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Lets just say these players actually WANT to play for Spurs and buils something here?? Not everyone wants to leave clubs after one season. Modric was very loyal to Dinamo and has reached a club now where he can improve his game further. He's still got alot of improvement in him and he'll do it here I'm sure. Lennon just signed a new contract didn't he?? Sure they might knock but who says they'll leave. If Harry shows ambition then they will all want to stay. Definately need reinforcements out back and up front though. God that was weak today from our strikers, Defoe excluded who should have started. The goal aside Jenas was poor I thought. We need alot better to go to the next level. Just not enough quality on the ball today
pompman
03/05/2009 13:32:00
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Lets just say these players actually WANT to play for Spurs and buils something here?? Not everyone wants to leave clubs after one season. Modric was very loyal to Dinamo and has reached a club now where he can improve his game further. He's still got alot of improvement in him and he'll do it here I'm sure. Lennon just signed a new contract didn't he?? Sure they might knock but who says they'll leave. If Harry shows ambition then they will all want to stay. Definately need reinforcements out back and up front though. God that was weak today from our strikers, Defoe excluded who should have started. The goal aside Jenas was poor I thought. We need alot better to go to the next level. Just not enough quality on the ball today
pompman
03/05/2009 13:32:00
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ONCE AGAIN - if a player really wants to leave and is therefore not giving you any commitment and is disrupting the dressing room you have 2 options, stick him in the reserves (and almost certainly sell him later for less money) or get the most you can while you can. Levy has poured millions into this club and I do not know why he gets slated (except for the jol thing, thats justified) and accused of just being in it for the money.
Joshtottenham
03/05/2009 13:57:00
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ONCE AGAIN - if a player really wants to leave and is therefore not giving you any commitment and is disrupting the dressing room you have 2 options, stick him in the reserves (and almost certainly sell him later for less money) or get the most you can while you can. Levy has poured millions into this club and I do not know why he gets slated (except for the jol thing, thats justified) and accused of just being in it for the money.
Joshtottenham
03/05/2009 13:57:00
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Also people lauding Zenit for screwing us over on arshavin, how much did he go for 6 months later? exactly. Also Villa did with Barry exactly what we did with berbs and keane, set an exorbitant price and told them to match it, liverpool couldnt, so villa didnt sell, simple as...still, wouldnt want to let facts get in the way of a good moan would we.
Joshtottenham
03/05/2009 14:02:00
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Also people lauding Zenit for screwing us over on arshavin, how much did he go for 6 months later? exactly. Also Villa did with Barry exactly what we did with berbs and keane, set an exorbitant price and told them to match it, liverpool couldnt, so villa didnt sell, simple as...still, wouldnt want to let facts get in the way of a good moan would we.
Joshtottenham
03/05/2009 14:02:00
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I think the big problem is not the fact that we seem to be selling our best players, but the money raised is poorly invested, sometimes with too many people involved in the decision as to where it is spent, sometimes simply as a kneejerk reaction. I never believe it is wrong to sell players if there is an obvious step forward but at Spurs there never seems to be one. Sometimes the performance of one outstanding player can in fact prove a hinderance on the development of the team overall. For example, Modric has been excellent these last few games, but he is not a true left midfielder nor big enough to play in the middle. If we were able to sell him for a nice profit, purchase a proper left sided midfielder with some spare cash to go elsewhere, have Spurs got worse or better, especially if the replacement can deliver what Modric does? If we were to sell Lennon and raise a large sum of money, we have a replacement in place with Bentley. The money raised might mean the difference between us being able to afford a A+ striker compared to the B class forwards we have signed. Or could be spent on providing proper balance on the other side etc. Would this get us closer to 4th place? Fans have to realise that in the current climate and with the building of the new stadium, money for players may have to be raised through sales, and whilst it is all well and good to list the players fans don't like, they might not be raising the amount of money a manager might need. If a manager walks out because of this then my attitude is 'good riddance' - it's not as if we are asking for a player to be replaced by someone from the academy; the club have international players currently listed as depth. What Spurs must do is to make sure that any sales are made at a time which is advantageous to the club, allowing the management team the correct amount of time to review the remaining squad and then to decide how ALL the proceeds raised should be spent.
Kernowboy71
03/05/2009 17:34:00
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I think the big problem is not the fact that we seem to be selling our best players, but the money raised is poorly invested, sometimes with too many people involved in the decision as to where it is spent, sometimes simply as a kneejerk reaction. I never believe it is wrong to sell players if there is an obvious step forward but at Spurs there never seems to be one. Sometimes the performance of one outstanding player can in fact prove a hinderance on the development of the team overall. For example, Modric has been excellent these last few games, but he is not a true left midfielder nor big enough to play in the middle. If we were able to sell him for a nice profit, purchase a proper left sided midfielder with some spare cash to go elsewhere, have Spurs got worse or better, especially if the replacement can deliver what Modric does? If we were to sell Lennon and raise a large sum of money, we have a replacement in place with Bentley. The money raised might mean the difference between us being able to afford a A+ striker compared to the B class forwards we have signed. Or could be spent on providing proper balance on the other side etc. Would this get us closer to 4th place? Fans have to realise that in the current climate and with the building of the new stadium, money for players may have to be raised through sales, and whilst it is all well and good to list the players fans don't like, they might not be raising the amount of money a manager might need. If a manager walks out because of this then my attitude is 'good riddance' - it's not as if we are asking for a player to be replaced by someone from the academy; the club have international players currently listed as depth. What Spurs must do is to make sure that any sales are made at a time which is advantageous to the club, allowing the management team the correct amount of time to review the remaining squad and then to decide how ALL the proceeds raised should be spent.
Kernowboy71
03/05/2009 17:34:00
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hiano, I've said for a long time that we'd be getting a left sided player for the sake of it, and I think we have more dimensions about our play than people with 2 wingers that just go down the outside (like the Downings of this world). I think Muntari would be a good signing because it allows even more in the way of interchanges throughout a match, making Lennon, Modric and Muntari incredibly hard to track. People that really believe Modric is destined for the middle seem to forget that it's been tried and tested and he's simply less effective. If we were to sign a left mid (which i have no problem with) we should sign Bastos who would give us something different to Modric if we wanted to shake a game up, and he'd probably score a few goals to go with it.
bernio3000
03/05/2009 18:38:00
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hiano, I've said for a long time that we'd be getting a left sided player for the sake of it, and I think we have more dimensions about our play than people with 2 wingers that just go down the outside (like the Downings of this world). I think Muntari would be a good signing because it allows even more in the way of interchanges throughout a match, making Lennon, Modric and Muntari incredibly hard to track. People that really believe Modric is destined for the middle seem to forget that it's been tried and tested and he's simply less effective. If we were to sign a left mid (which i have no problem with) we should sign Bastos who would give us something different to Modric if we wanted to shake a game up, and he'd probably score a few goals to go with it.
bernio3000
03/05/2009 18:38:00
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Nice point Kernowboy71, and Hiano - Levy did put silly price tags on our players! Carrick cost us 3.5m we sold him for 18m after 2 years, Keane cost us 7m we sold him for 20m and Berba cost us 10m and we sold him for 31m, which until the Robinho deal was the British transfer record. We screwed every penny we could out of the the Mancs and the Pool. Silly money price tags like 50m or 70m etc are for players on long (5+ yrs) contracts, which we COULD apply to Lennon or Modric as they don't have the power Carrick and Berba had who both had under 2 years left on their contracts. Keane is the only exception as he did have a 5 year contract, but I believe based on the fact he was sold early and quickly that Ramos had ok'ed the deal as he thought Modric and Santos would be enough, if Ramos had gone and said he wanted Keane I think we could of forced him to stay. Whether Keane would of had a hissy fit about it (very likely) is a different matter, and Barry should be complimented on his professionalism with regards his situation. The point I wanted to make is that far to many people see Levy as the reason for a player being sold but in reality there is many factors based around the buying club, the manager, the player and the chairman. Sure Levy makes his mistakes but I honestly think he did the best he could with regards to players wanting to leave, and I also believe he is doing what he can to get us in a position where players will be less tempted to leave us (i.e. get us into the CL).
ManilaYid
03/05/2009 19:47:00
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Nice point Kernowboy71, and Hiano - Levy did put silly price tags on our players! Carrick cost us 3.5m we sold him for 18m after 2 years, Keane cost us 7m we sold him for 20m and Berba cost us 10m and we sold him for 31m, which until the Robinho deal was the British transfer record. We screwed every penny we could out of the the Mancs and the Pool. Silly money price tags like 50m or 70m etc are for players on long (5+ yrs) contracts, which we COULD apply to Lennon or Modric as they don't have the power Carrick and Berba had who both had under 2 years left on their contracts. Keane is the only exception as he did have a 5 year contract, but I believe based on the fact he was sold early and quickly that Ramos had ok'ed the deal as he thought Modric and Santos would be enough, if Ramos had gone and said he wanted Keane I think we could of forced him to stay. Whether Keane would of had a hissy fit about it (very likely) is a different matter, and Barry should be complimented on his professionalism with regards his situation. The point I wanted to make is that far to many people see Levy as the reason for a player being sold but in reality there is many factors based around the buying club, the manager, the player and the chairman. Sure Levy makes his mistakes but I honestly think he did the best he could with regards to players wanting to leave, and I also believe he is doing what he can to get us in a position where players will be less tempted to leave us (i.e. get us into the CL).
ManilaYid
03/05/2009 19:47:00
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The point is that we will never get into the CL unless we halt the exodus of our best players, irrespective of the money they fetch, and allay the reputation we have aquired for being a selling club and fair game for anybody with plenty of money to spend.
Frank
03/05/2009 23:48:00
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The point is that we will never get into the CL unless we halt the exodus of our best players, irrespective of the money they fetch, and allay the reputation we have aquired for being a selling club and fair game for anybody with plenty of money to spend.
Frank
03/05/2009 23:48:00
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Tough one, isn't it? Most of us tend to see from the fans' point of view, but, as the posts in this article have shown, there is the players' point and there is the club's point to consider as well.
hiano
04/05/2009 00:56:00
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Tough one, isn't it? Most of us tend to see from the fans' point of view, but, as the posts in this article have shown, there is the players' point and there is the club's point to consider as well.
hiano
04/05/2009 00:56:00
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It's always going to be difficult as we haven't made a challenge for the fourth spot since Jol left and with the merrygorounds of our club we will find it hard to convince players to stay now! Continuity and progress is best solution to convince players we are heading in the right direction but we have a lot of convincing to do with the way we have conducted ourselves recently. Our best players hard going to be hard to keep if a top four club or big club abroad come knocking. barry will be gone this season, he knuckled down and gave them the rest of the season but as Villa have not got close enough to CL footy if Liverpool still want him he will go. It's always hard becuase if a player wants to go then your always going to find it difficult to keep hold of them. Let's hope the likes of Lennon, Modric don't get carried away and want to go just yet and that they give us a bit more time to see if we can progress!
loz
04/05/2009 03:09:00
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It's always going to be difficult as we haven't made a challenge for the fourth spot since Jol left and with the merrygorounds of our club we will find it hard to convince players to stay now! Continuity and progress is best solution to convince players we are heading in the right direction but we have a lot of convincing to do with the way we have conducted ourselves recently. Our best players hard going to be hard to keep if a top four club or big club abroad come knocking. barry will be gone this season, he knuckled down and gave them the rest of the season but as Villa have not got close enough to CL footy if Liverpool still want him he will go. It's always hard becuase if a player wants to go then your always going to find it difficult to keep hold of them. Let's hope the likes of Lennon, Modric don't get carried away and want to go just yet and that they give us a bit more time to see if we can progress!
loz
04/05/2009 03:09:00
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Spot on. This summer we must not sell any player we do not wish to. I don't care how much that player, be it Lennon, Modric, whomever, suddenly wnats to leave we need to do a Villa and categorically reject any bids. This isn't forever but for this summer and Harry must make it clear to any players keen on moving that we will be making a run at the Champ League and if we don't manage it then we will reluctantly consider any reasonable bids. If we sell any of our top players this year we may as well admit defeat in our quest to ever become again one of the biggest clubs on the country. C'mon Daniel, be strong.
Officer X
04/05/2009 16:28:00
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Spot on. This summer we must not sell any player we do not wish to. I don't care how much that player, be it Lennon, Modric, whomever, suddenly wnats to leave we need to do a Villa and categorically reject any bids. This isn't forever but for this summer and Harry must make it clear to any players keen on moving that we will be making a run at the Champ League and if we don't manage it then we will reluctantly consider any reasonable bids. If we sell any of our top players this year we may as well admit defeat in our quest to ever become again one of the biggest clubs on the country. C'mon Daniel, be strong.
Officer X
04/05/2009 16:28:00
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Well Well here comes the summer eh and its gonna be a long one for us by the looks of it. Hey all good players become the centre of media speculation whether there is any meat to a story really doesnt matter. We knew that Lennon, Moddy, Palascious and Thudd especially were going to be subjects for these ahem esteemed journalists to shove into focus. Manure will always sniff around cos thats one way of making sure we dont become too dangerous to them. They cant really get players out of gooners chavs and scousers but they can use CL as the bait for any other team that shows any signs of being a threat. We were looking dangerous when he took our key player carrick and then again when berba***** was looking so good and we again looked dangerous he came along and upset the whole cart, its what he does, he didnt actually really need either carrick or the moddy bulgar but he bought them anyhow. He will I reckon bid for WP as he is a key player for us again, him or gomes. watch this space!!
nomorewhlegends
05/05/2009 11:28:00
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Well Well here comes the summer eh and its gonna be a long one for us by the looks of it. Hey all good players become the centre of media speculation whether there is any meat to a story really doesnt matter. We knew that Lennon, Moddy, Palascious and Thudd especially were going to be subjects for these ahem esteemed journalists to shove into focus. Manure will always sniff around cos thats one way of making sure we dont become too dangerous to them. They cant really get players out of gooners chavs and scousers but they can use CL as the bait for any other team that shows any signs of being a threat. We were looking dangerous when he took our key player carrick and then again when berba***** was looking so good and we again looked dangerous he came along and upset the whole cart, its what he does, he didnt actually really need either carrick or the moddy bulgar but he bought them anyhow. He will I reckon bid for WP as he is a key player for us again, him or gomes. watch this space!!
nomorewhlegends
05/05/2009 11:28:00
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we only need to sell fringe players not first teamers..we need about 5-7 players in the summer.
thfccambs
08/05/2009 14:41:00
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we only need to sell fringe players not first teamers..we need about 5-7 players in the summer.
thfccambs
08/05/2009 14:41:00
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