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Lack of Ambition or Cash?

So surprise surprise it looks like Klaas-Jan Huntelaar is going to join Stuttgart.Exactly whose fault is that!?

Even though the player has apparently come out and said that Champion's League football is not everything and that he would love to play in the English Premier League, we still did not make the sufficient effort required to bag his services.

Surely if we possessed the motivation Harry Redknapp and Daniel Levy could sell their hopes and dreams to him about us being a top four club.He would certainly be one of those to help us achieve that aim so why have we not even officially been in contention for this goal machine?

Did we actually make a move for this guy or was it mere press speculation?It comes to something when Harry is bigging up the likes of Peter Crouch as someone he would love to sign, but not even a mention never mind any drooling over the prospect of Van Nistlerooy, Robben, Negredo or Huntelaar arriving at the Lane!!

Does this show a lack of ambition from the club?Have we already settled for mid-table mediocrity sadly and pessimistically accepting we will never break into the top four or get the better of Manchester City, or does Daniel Levy acknowledge that the amount of cash and investment required to do so is much more than he and Enic are prepared to spend?

Maybe Harry is in his comfort zone with people like Peter Crouch and workmanlike Premiership players of his ilk.He may be ill at ease with any potential superstars and feel he would be unable to handle someone who could display prima donna characteristics.After all, in world terms he is virtually an unknown outside these shores.

Huntelaar would have been self-financing due to the amount of shirts he sold and goals he scored plus no one could logically argue against your superstar top goalscorer quite justifiably drawing the highest wages.

This malaise and lack of foresight and vision infecting the club is a worrying thing for those who fondly remember the glory days and when true superstars graced the White Hart Lane pitch.

Should we really give up the ambition to return to those halcyon days so easily by settling for a Peter Crouch and a couple of full backs from a Championship side as the only things required to complement our assault on the Premiership with a view to grabbing a European place?




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Writer: Hartfelt Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Monday July 20 2009

Time: 8:22PM

Your Comments

well if we tried to sign a players an he doesnt want to come ...move on......we bought to many foreign player at our club who have been a waste of money an not givin a chance..........give youth a chance ffs
123spurs
well if we tried to sign a players an he doesnt want to come ...move on......we bought to many foreign player at our club who have been a waste of money an not givin a chance..........give youth a chance ffs
123spurs
cash .....bs.....we have spent more then enough to get to top 4 just as much as top 4, an lot more then teams around us
123spurs
Where did you get this from ? he hasnt signed for them...its all german press they are looking at Vagner Love....... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
kp1
cash .....bs.....we have spent more then enough to get to top 4 just as much as top 4, an lot more then teams around us
123spurs
Where did you get this from ? he hasnt signed for them...its all german press they are looking at Vagner Love....... +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
kp1
Get on his personal website....use the gstoenboek which is dutch for guestbook......and tell him why he should join spurs..........http://www.klaasjanhuntelaar.com/site/ Email him now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kp1
i think crouch would b a better signind than huntelaar. he is unproven in a top league. crouch is a very underated player and i think him and defoe could be a top4 strike partnership anyday of the week. huntelaar is to small and weak to be a top EPL targetman, he stands at 6ft'1 and crouchie is 6ft'7 and proven. LAY OFF CROUCHIE!!!!!!
welshyido
Get on his personal website....use the gstoenboek which is dutch for guestbook......and tell him why he should join spurs..........http://www.klaasjanhuntelaar.com/site/ Email him now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kp1
i think crouch would b a better signind than huntelaar. he is unproven in a top league. crouch is a very underated player and i think him and defoe could be a top4 strike partnership anyday of the week. huntelaar is to small and weak to be a top EPL targetman, he stands at 6ft'1 and crouchie is 6ft'7 and proven. LAY OFF CROUCHIE!!!!!!
welshyido
HUNTELAAR HAS NOT SIGNED FOR STUTTGART>>>>>NEWSNOW ____type in Huntelaar and see for yourself....were still in with a shout ignore this article its pure rubbish. COME ON KLASS SIGN FOR SPURS
kp1
HUNTELAAR HAS NOT SIGNED FOR STUTTGART>>>>>NEWSNOW ____type in Huntelaar and see for yourself....were still in with a shout ignore this article its pure rubbish. COME ON KLASS SIGN FOR SPURS
kp1
I'd love to see Huntelaar at the Lane, but would also be quite happy to see Crouchy back. Those two plus Defoe and Bent would be a formidable set of strikers. The Irish Judas and the Russian Strop could then depart for who-cares-where...
Ian S
I'd love to see Huntelaar at the Lane, but would also be quite happy to see Crouchy back. Those two plus Defoe and Bent would be a formidable set of strikers. The Irish Judas and the Russian Strop could then depart for who-cares-where...
Ian S
Neither, maybe we were not even in the running for him? From what I have heard the Hunter is a poacher/predator type not a target man. We bid for Jones in Jan, and Harry has admitted he likes Crouch clearly he wants a target man, someone to play alongside Defoe in all likelyhood, IMO I don't think the Hunter has ever been a target of ours.
ManilaYid
Neither, maybe we were not even in the running for him? From what I have heard the Hunter is a poacher/predator type not a target man. We bid for Jones in Jan, and Harry has admitted he likes Crouch clearly he wants a target man, someone to play alongside Defoe in all likelyhood, IMO I don't think the Hunter has ever been a target of ours.
ManilaYid
If he was THAT good Real Madrid would not have sold him
refereesfavourbig4
If he was THAT good Real Madrid would not have sold him
refereesfavourbig4
Also I'm pretty sure we won't buy a striker till we have sold one of Bent or Pav, if we can't shift them off the books then were stuck with what we have got. I also reckon Harry did a little tapping up of Crouch to try to put Sunderland off or stall the deal so that they come back in for Bent or to buy us more time to flog Pav.
ManilaYid
Also I'm pretty sure we won't buy a striker till we have sold one of Bent or Pav, if we can't shift them off the books then were stuck with what we have got. I also reckon Harry did a little tapping up of Crouch to try to put Sunderland off or stall the deal so that they come back in for Bent or to buy us more time to flog Pav.
ManilaYid
tell him to join................http://www.klaasjanhuntelaar.com/site/ KJH Tottenhams number 10 He is Klass...weve wanted him for 2 years, harry met with him last week having left the spurs training camp in order to do so..... CROUCH is aiming low....HUNTELAAR is class mate....COYS get this done before its too late....apparently today Chavski and Roma ares sniffing round him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kp1
tell him to join................http://www.klaasjanhuntelaar.com/site/ KJH Tottenhams number 10 He is Klass...weve wanted him for 2 years, harry met with him last week having left the spurs training camp in order to do so..... CROUCH is aiming low....HUNTELAAR is class mate....COYS get this done before its too late....apparently today Chavski and Roma ares sniffing round him !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kp1
pompey no 2.. midtable hardworking team.. serious lack of ambition and to be honest it sickens me. peter crouch is a good player but come on he is been chased by sunderland and fulham and was sold by liverpool. it says it all really..
trustmeiknow1
pompey no 2.. midtable hardworking team.. serious lack of ambition and to be honest it sickens me. peter crouch is a good player but come on he is been chased by sunderland and fulham and was sold by liverpool. it says it all really..
trustmeiknow1
pool fans didnt want to sell him
123spurs
pool fans didnt want to sell him
123spurs
we're starting to stink of midtable mediocrity. kjh could be world class.the next rvn. peter crouch will never be world class.midtable next year and modric lennon will be gone aspecially after the world cup.
trustmeiknow1
we're starting to stink of midtable mediocrity. kjh could be world class.the next rvn. peter crouch will never be world class.midtable next year and modric lennon will be gone aspecially after the world cup.
trustmeiknow1
trustmeiknow1, we were mid table for a long time only for 2 top 5th finishes....sorry to disapoint you
123spurs
trustmeiknow1, we were mid table for a long time only for 2 top 5th finishes....sorry to disapoint you
123spurs
pool fans? oh yeah of couse they know it all. so who would yhey prefer up front now. torres or crouch? likeable lad good player but like i said a midtable player. and midtable equals no lennon modric
trustmeiknow1
pool fans? oh yeah of couse they know it all. so who would yhey prefer up front now. torres or crouch? likeable lad good player but like i said a midtable player. and midtable equals no lennon modric
trustmeiknow1
i'm talking about ambition..it stinks of midtable. after 2 top 5 finishes we shoulda pushed on but no.bought crap 'potential' cos director of football was a faggot who thought they were pretty..
trustmeiknow1
After the super sulk Berbatov,not surprised Levy and co are unsure about another possible player like Huntelaar using us as a stepping stone club.Not lack of ambition,they are trying to finance a new stadium remember.Not sure when the work starts,maybe another fine Spurs fan can let us know.COYS!!!!!
MrScary71
i'm talking about ambition..it stinks of midtable. after 2 top 5 finishes we shoulda pushed on but no.bought crap 'potential' cos director of football was a faggot who thought they were pretty..
trustmeiknow1
After the super sulk Berbatov,not surprised Levy and co are unsure about another possible player like Huntelaar using us as a stepping stone club.Not lack of ambition,they are trying to finance a new stadium remember.Not sure when the work starts,maybe another fine Spurs fan can let us know.COYS!!!!!
MrScary71
If you look at the teams in the running for a top six finish, all have proven Prem players, Fulham, Everton, Villa. Someone like Crouch will add to what we already have and improve us, the Hunter, could be great, could be poor, could be average. With Crouch we know what we are getting, a proven Prem player, proven international. Even look at the top 4, there big names have all taken time to settle and they can give them time as have strength in depth (Nani @ Man Utd, Nasri, Rosicki @ the Arse) even some of there best players were poor for 6 to 9 months - Evra, Drogba, Berbatov for us, could even say the great Ronaldo was poor for a year, the list is endless. What im saying is top foreginers do not equal sucess, but saying that would love Hunterlaar - he could be that player who is an instant sucess and scores a hat load!!!
Legend23
If you look at the teams in the running for a top six finish, all have proven Prem players, Fulham, Everton, Villa. Someone like Crouch will add to what we already have and improve us, the Hunter, could be great, could be poor, could be average. With Crouch we know what we are getting, a proven Prem player, proven international. Even look at the top 4, there big names have all taken time to settle and they can give them time as have strength in depth (Nani @ Man Utd, Nasri, Rosicki @ the Arse) even some of there best players were poor for 6 to 9 months - Evra, Drogba, Berbatov for us, could even say the great Ronaldo was poor for a year, the list is endless. What im saying is top foreginers do not equal sucess, but saying that would love Hunterlaar - he could be that player who is an instant sucess and scores a hat load!!!
Legend23
I dont think Levy is worried about Hunterlaar using Spurs as a stepping stone. Think about it, what that means is that he does well, hopefully he signs for Spurs for £18million, scores 30 goals a season, gets us into the Champions League, then if Man Utd, Barca, AC Milan want to pay £60 million, im sure Levy will be a happy man!!!!
Legend23
I dont think Levy is worried about Hunterlaar using Spurs as a stepping stone. Think about it, what that means is that he does well, hopefully he signs for Spurs for £18million, scores 30 goals a season, gets us into the Champions League, then if Man Utd, Barca, AC Milan want to pay £60 million, im sure Levy will be a happy man!!!!
Legend23
Yeah but we need to start keeping the top players.This is the problem with Levy i'm afraid.I've said this many times on these pages over the last year and got hammered by nearly everyone.You've hit the nail on the head.Profit is success to Levy,not winning stuff.
MrScary71
Yeah but we need to start keeping the top players.This is the problem with Levy i'm afraid.I've said this many times on these pages over the last year and got hammered by nearly everyone.You've hit the nail on the head.Profit is success to Levy,not winning stuff.
MrScary71
good article hartfelt,its not looking good at this moment.there is a lot of factors to take on board.the new tax economy and city plus more but hope there is one pulled out of the bag.hope its not 1200 last night.
bazdog
good article hartfelt,its not looking good at this moment.there is a lot of factors to take on board.the new tax economy and city plus more but hope there is one pulled out of the bag.hope its not 1200 last night.
bazdog
I though monday was the deadline for Huntelaar
gji
I though monday was the deadline for Huntelaar
gji
the main thing that gets me is we have allowed a build up of average players coming in for stupid fees and wages we must have a squad of 20 - 25 players of those how many would u say get in the top 4 teams, woodgate? lennon, modric, palacios, defoe? for a squad our size says alot about the lack of quality, and money we have wasted, gomes 8, hutton 8, corluka 8, bale 6, bentley 16, boatang 5, bent 16, pav 13, keane,15 and proberly many more but they total around 100 million ur telling me with that sought of money u couldnt get 5 - 6 quality players, the thing that scares me the most is this new stadium, looks like it gonna give us the spending power as the scummer , would rather better players than a new stadium
birdmanspurs
the main thing that gets me is we have allowed a build up of average players coming in for stupid fees and wages we must have a squad of 20 - 25 players of those how many would u say get in the top 4 teams, woodgate? lennon, modric, palacios, defoe? for a squad our size says alot about the lack of quality, and money we have wasted, gomes 8, hutton 8, corluka 8, bale 6, bentley 16, boatang 5, bent 16, pav 13, keane,15 and proberly many more but they total around 100 million ur telling me with that sought of money u couldnt get 5 - 6 quality players, the thing that scares me the most is this new stadium, looks like it gonna give us the spending power as the scummer , would rather better players than a new stadium
birdmanspurs
you could be right mate
birdmanspurs
you could be right mate
birdmanspurs
saw negredo, play to night in a friendly against shamrock rovers he would def strugglein prem crouch wud adopt a lot better
123spurs
saw negredo, play to night in a friendly against shamrock rovers he would def strugglein prem crouch wud adopt a lot better
123spurs
latest quote from his agent is that no deal has been struck now, latest speculation from the papers is that he's holding out to see if any big guns jump in last minute (suggesting that the "decision by monday" thing was a just a ploy to gauge interest from the likes of chelsea). Latest news from vital spurs (surprise surprise) moan, moan, moan..."oh no, our players arent good enough for the top 4"...well no *****, sherlock thats why we're top 6/7...i guess you think that world class players are falling over themselves to join everton and villa do you...Seriously, how you can say that us not getting Huntelaar (yet) shows a lack of ambition is beyond me. Us not even bothering to go for them is lack of ambition, us giving it a shot and being turned down is just whats going to happen sometimes, happens to all other clubs all the time too, get over it. Im not sure hes chosen stuttgart over us, I think he was hoping someone bigger would come in for him if he looked like he was gonna sign. The reports on him signing for stuttgart are all from German press and have yet to be confirmed...the longer that is the case the more likely it is that its crap (see "a young has medical at spurs" for an example over here)
Joshtottenham
latest quote from his agent is that no deal has been struck now, latest speculation from the papers is that he's holding out to see if any big guns jump in last minute (suggesting that the "decision by monday" thing was a just a ploy to gauge interest from the likes of chelsea). Latest news from vital spurs (surprise surprise) moan, moan, moan..."oh no, our players arent good enough for the top 4"...well no *****, sherlock thats why we're top 6/7...i guess you think that world class players are falling over themselves to join everton and villa do you...Seriously, how you can say that us not getting Huntelaar (yet) shows a lack of ambition is beyond me. Us not even bothering to go for them is lack of ambition, us giving it a shot and being turned down is just whats going to happen sometimes, happens to all other clubs all the time too, get over it. Im not sure hes chosen stuttgart over us, I think he was hoping someone bigger would come in for him if he looked like he was gonna sign. The reports on him signing for stuttgart are all from German press and have yet to be confirmed...the longer that is the case the more likely it is that its crap (see "a young has medical at spurs" for an example over here)
Joshtottenham
Maybe its a lack of neccessity. Lets face it, why tamper with a team that had top 5 form for a lot of last season. Rock the boat too much and we can end up a step back from where we are now. Although Huntelaar is a good, possibly great player, he's exactly the sort that could rock the boat. He'd be our top earner, without question, and with a £20mil price tag on his head, he'd have to adapt like ON HIS DEBUT unless people would start to get on his back. Crouch would not be a step backwards. He'd be a safe bet, not chucking all our eggs in one basket. He wouldn't neccessarily be first choice, but Pavlyuchenko would have to work hard to break the pretty formidable partnership of Crouch and Defoe. Looks like Negredo may not even be an option. He was in the team tonight against Shamrock, whereas Huntelaar unsurprisingly didn't travel.
bernio3000
Maybe its a lack of neccessity. Lets face it, why tamper with a team that had top 5 form for a lot of last season. Rock the boat too much and we can end up a step back from where we are now. Although Huntelaar is a good, possibly great player, he's exactly the sort that could rock the boat. He'd be our top earner, without question, and with a £20mil price tag on his head, he'd have to adapt like ON HIS DEBUT unless people would start to get on his back. Crouch would not be a step backwards. He'd be a safe bet, not chucking all our eggs in one basket. He wouldn't neccessarily be first choice, but Pavlyuchenko would have to work hard to break the pretty formidable partnership of Crouch and Defoe. Looks like Negredo may not even be an option. He was in the team tonight against Shamrock, whereas Huntelaar unsurprisingly didn't travel.
bernio3000
saw him to niht 3000 didnt look that impressive rather have crouch tbh......if you look at fulham last seaon fin 7th an there squad.....u nee is hard work an organisation just like verton hve done with less money then us
123spurs
saw him to niht 3000 didnt look that impressive rather have crouch tbh......if you look at fulham last seaon fin 7th an there squad.....u nee is hard work an organisation just like verton hve done with less money then us
123spurs
Before eveyone starts shouting for this guy - has anyone seen him play longer than a YouTube clip? He isnt that good trust me - he has been slung around every Dutch club - Heerenveen PSV Ajax De Grafschap - why do you think this is - Real are not that interested in keeping him 6 months after signing him for how ever much they did - Pav and Bent got around the same game time as him last season and both scored more goals than him - in this country - he is too big a gamble and a big risk of unsettling the team with his crazy wage demands!! Why even mix it up - Pav im sure will come good - but is he that good an influence on the team - he still hasnt grasped English that well - I think if we kept Defoe Keane Bent and got Crouch in - that would be good enough!!
SUper Yido
Before eveyone starts shouting for this guy - has anyone seen him play longer than a YouTube clip? He isnt that good trust me - he has been slung around every Dutch club - Heerenveen PSV Ajax De Grafschap - why do you think this is - Real are not that interested in keeping him 6 months after signing him for how ever much they did - Pav and Bent got around the same game time as him last season and both scored more goals than him - in this country - he is too big a gamble and a big risk of unsettling the team with his crazy wage demands!! Why even mix it up - Pav im sure will come good - but is he that good an influence on the team - he still hasnt grasped English that well - I think if we kept Defoe Keane Bent and got Crouch in - that would be good enough!!
SUper Yido
Yeah Negredo's never impressed me, seems Hartfelt was bored and bitter when he wrote this article. Harry knows what he's doing, I don't think we'll end up with Crouch either. All four of our strikers are better than Peter Crouch (and I don't really think he would be able to provide for Defoe as well as anyone else). Sure we don't have crazy money to spend on players, but all that means is that we'll be buying one or two players... not 6. We have money for Robben and Huntelaar, but that doesn't mean that we'll get them. if Huntelaar comes in then I see a striker leaving (anyone but Defoe it seems). If I had to have one of the two dutch primadonnas it would be Robben to be quite honest... At least I'm not hearing anymore Jones/Bellamy rumors... And JESUS birdmanspurs! you call Corluka, Keane, and Gomes wastes of money? Sure Keane hasn't scored as many goals as he could have and Gomes had a goofy start, but they're quality players!
OregonHotspur
Yeah Negredo's never impressed me, seems Hartfelt was bored and bitter when he wrote this article. Harry knows what he's doing, I don't think we'll end up with Crouch either. All four of our strikers are better than Peter Crouch (and I don't really think he would be able to provide for Defoe as well as anyone else). Sure we don't have crazy money to spend on players, but all that means is that we'll be buying one or two players... not 6. We have money for Robben and Huntelaar, but that doesn't mean that we'll get them. if Huntelaar comes in then I see a striker leaving (anyone but Defoe it seems). If I had to have one of the two dutch primadonnas it would be Robben to be quite honest... At least I'm not hearing anymore Jones/Bellamy rumors... And JESUS birdmanspurs! you call Corluka, Keane, and Gomes wastes of money? Sure Keane hasn't scored as many goals as he could have and Gomes had a goofy start, but they're quality players!
OregonHotspur
123spurs - is there something wrong with your A and E button??
SUper Yido
123spurs - is there something wrong with your A and E button??
SUper Yido
agree SY keep what we have other wise we are going around in circles....who do u want huntaar or bent away to bolton in winter
123spurs
agree SY keep what we have other wise we are going around in circles....who do u want huntaar or bent away to bolton in winter
123spurs
maybe bit drunk at mo....lol
123spurs
maybe bit drunk at mo....lol
123spurs
we will only buy a stricker if we sell one simply as that
123spurs
we will only buy a stricker if we sell one simply as that
123spurs
Harry and Levy will do their best and they know best, so stop panicking and stop jumping to conclusions. Lack of ambition, I doubt. Everyone knows Levy wants CL football that is why he sacked Jol who took us to two 5th spots and brought Ramos in to take us to CL spot but it didn't work. We all know Levy as CL in his mind but this time he isn't blurting it out like he did with Jol because he knows Harry would give him *****ttt. So ambitious I think Levy is and he will do what he can with the funds available to get players in for Harry to try and break the top four. Now if that's Crouch, Huntelaar or some unknown player/s who knows but whoever comes it will be for the right reasons and within our limits and with progression in mind and CL in Levy's mind, trust me. You don't have ambition one season and totally destroy everything trying to achieve it and then become unambitions, cautious maybe, quietly ambitions definately but ambitious I'm sure.
loz
Harry and Levy will do their best and they know best, so stop panicking and stop jumping to conclusions. Lack of ambition, I doubt. Everyone knows Levy wants CL football that is why he sacked Jol who took us to two 5th spots and brought Ramos in to take us to CL spot but it didn't work. We all know Levy as CL in his mind but this time he isn't blurting it out like he did with Jol because he knows Harry would give him *****ttt. So ambitious I think Levy is and he will do what he can with the funds available to get players in for Harry to try and break the top four. Now if that's Crouch, Huntelaar or some unknown player/s who knows but whoever comes it will be for the right reasons and within our limits and with progression in mind and CL in Levy's mind, trust me. You don't have ambition one season and totally destroy everything trying to achieve it and then become unambitions, cautious maybe, quietly ambitions definately but ambitious I'm sure.
loz
I am becoming more and more frustrated with Redknapp and his apparent lack of ambition. I might be proved wrong ( and i really, really hope i am), but it does very much so appear that all he wants are players like Crouch that are just bang average and can simply do a job. Im not Kenae's biggest fan, but with him, Defoe, Pav and Keane, i wouldnt take Crouch over any of them. Selling one of them and replacing them with him would only be a step backwards. Surely i am right.? Even if i am wrong, it certainly wouldn't be a step forward, a very long step in the same direction. Ive preached stability on here before, but if Redknapp believes we've got a squad good enough to go now, why isn't he looking forward.? Why is he looking sideways and not at player's of Huntelaar's quality.? I'm taking the 'Harry has no ambition' side of the argument from this article cos it's very hard to see the other angle to be honest. I think he's finally got the big-club-but-easy-job that he's been after, he wants to maintain our position as a top 6 team but blame our inability to crack the top four on Man City's money. I am of course sayin this from a future perspective as this is perhaps where we will be in a year or two's time. Harry, prove me wrong and at least say you want to buy big players and drop a few names. Everyone else does. Otherwise we'll be bang average till we smarten up and get Jol back.
Sparks12
I am becoming more and more frustrated with Redknapp and his apparent lack of ambition. I might be proved wrong ( and i really, really hope i am), but it does very much so appear that all he wants are players like Crouch that are just bang average and can simply do a job. Im not Kenae's biggest fan, but with him, Defoe, Pav and Keane, i wouldnt take Crouch over any of them. Selling one of them and replacing them with him would only be a step backwards. Surely i am right.? Even if i am wrong, it certainly wouldn't be a step forward, a very long step in the same direction. Ive preached stability on here before, but if Redknapp believes we've got a squad good enough to go now, why isn't he looking forward.? Why is he looking sideways and not at player's of Huntelaar's quality.? I'm taking the 'Harry has no ambition' side of the argument from this article cos it's very hard to see the other angle to be honest. I think he's finally got the big-club-but-easy-job that he's been after, he wants to maintain our position as a top 6 team but blame our inability to crack the top four on Man City's money. I am of course sayin this from a future perspective as this is perhaps where we will be in a year or two's time. Harry, prove me wrong and at least say you want to buy big players and drop a few names. Everyone else does. Otherwise we'll be bang average till we smarten up and get Jol back.
Sparks12
We have ambition. It is to make the top 4. Tell me who has Levy decided to sell for a profit? No one, Carrick, Keane and Berbatov all put in transfer requests and he had no choice. He fought hard to keep them, hence there high sale values. I have never enjoyed a spurs money man more than Levy. He has made mistakes but they were made because he tried too hard to get us what we all want! He is not going give to give up, trust me.
KiwiSpur
We have ambition. It is to make the top 4. Tell me who has Levy decided to sell for a profit? No one, Carrick, Keane and Berbatov all put in transfer requests and he had no choice. He fought hard to keep them, hence there high sale values. I have never enjoyed a spurs money man more than Levy. He has made mistakes but they were made because he tried too hard to get us what we all want! He is not going give to give up, trust me.
KiwiSpur
We wont get Crouch so dont worry yourselves. He has told Sunderland his preferred club is bloody Fulham would you believe. We are second best to a frigging village team full of Spurs throw outs. Of course we are showing a lack of ambition. We have sacked Ramos and Commolli, their mistakes are in the past, now we need to sort out the mess they have left, and get back to being genuine top 5,6 on merit, not like some of you, hoping that Villa and Everton will come back to us rather than us going upwards and past them. if that costs £20-£30M then so be it, Mr. Levy has always got an alternative if he cant/wont afford it. Just remember there are only 2 EL places up for grabs after the top 4 and Arsenal, so we need to pull our finger out. I hope Im wrong and Levy and Harry come up with a gem or 2 late on, but Im not going to hold my breath.
Frank
To be honest, from the way Harry got us playing the second half of last season i'm ready to trust him. We did that without Huntelaar. We have some good players and we looked very solid. I'm looking forward to next season. Harry gets us digging deep, playing gritty. When you can't attract a whole team of World Class players you use what you do have to the best of your ability. We have one World Class player and we'll base our team around him until someone else buys him. Modric is the key. Everyone else will come together around him.
Eemton
We wont get Crouch so dont worry yourselves. He has told Sunderland his preferred club is bloody Fulham would you believe. We are second best to a frigging village team full of Spurs throw outs. Of course we are showing a lack of ambition. We have sacked Ramos and Commolli, their mistakes are in the past, now we need to sort out the mess they have left, and get back to being genuine top 5,6 on merit, not like some of you, hoping that Villa and Everton will come back to us rather than us going upwards and past them. if that costs £20-£30M then so be it, Mr. Levy has always got an alternative if he cant/wont afford it. Just remember there are only 2 EL places up for grabs after the top 4 and Arsenal, so we need to pull our finger out. I hope Im wrong and Levy and Harry come up with a gem or 2 late on, but Im not going to hold my breath.
Frank
To be honest, from the way Harry got us playing the second half of last season i'm ready to trust him. We did that without Huntelaar. We have some good players and we looked very solid. I'm looking forward to next season. Harry gets us digging deep, playing gritty. When you can't attract a whole team of World Class players you use what you do have to the best of your ability. We have one World Class player and we'll base our team around him until someone else buys him. Modric is the key. Everyone else will come together around him.
Eemton
ronaldo sold lack of ambition from manu..............no ronaldo wanted to leave so therefore man u got best offrer they got ...we done same with carrick keane berba
123spurs
ronaldo sold lack of ambition from manu..............no ronaldo wanted to leave so therefore man u got best offrer they got ...we done same with carrick keane berba
123spurs
frank he knows maybe he will be 1st choice at fulham no matter what with us we will have 4 strickers...even though we seem to have best subs seats in the world
123spurs
frank he knows maybe he will be 1st choice at fulham no matter what with us we will have 4 strickers...even though we seem to have best subs seats in the world
123spurs
I'm not sure we'll ever find out what Harry's choices would have been this summer if all of the stars aligned. We know he likes Defoe, Bellamy, Crouch, Jones and Yakubu and I think he rates Robbie as well but not as sure how much compared to the others. It also appears that he wanted a more notable signing like Huntelaar. Not sure where Negredo fits in though. Wild cards for me would be Carlton Cole and Tuncay. Obviously some of these players would disappoint a lot of fans myself included but it would never surprise me if Harry went after them.
muttley
I'm not sure we'll ever find out what Harry's choices would have been this summer if all of the stars aligned. We know he likes Defoe, Bellamy, Crouch, Jones and Yakubu and I think he rates Robbie as well but not as sure how much compared to the others. It also appears that he wanted a more notable signing like Huntelaar. Not sure where Negredo fits in though. Wild cards for me would be Carlton Cole and Tuncay. Obviously some of these players would disappoint a lot of fans myself included but it would never surprise me if Harry went after them.
muttley
Harry has never even admitted any interest in the guy - normally he would be shouting out exactley who he wants - I dont think this guy has ever be considered a target - stick with what weve got !!
SUper Yido
Harry has never even admitted any interest in the guy - normally he would be shouting out exactley who he wants - I dont think this guy has ever be considered a target - stick with what weve got !!
SUper Yido
The sub seats do look well comfy 123Spurs - I noticed that too ! There's a lot to be positive about at the moment - I think Gomes is going to emerge into one of the top keepers in the league this season, we have 4 solid centre backs in King, Woodie, Daws and Corluka, BAE has been playing as well as I've seen, we've got the next generation England right back coming from the Blades, we have a great holding midfielder in Wilson, great creativity in Modric, pace in Lennon, three proven Premiership strikers and I'm expecting great things of Pav now that he's had a break after 18 months non stop football. I'm not sure we need too many new faces - I don't think Levy lacks ambition, we're a club that's management appears to be improving all the time to me. In that respect, I think the days of us signing players pretty much for the sake of it ( Comolli ) are gone. Levy deserves credit for getting the money back for Zokora. Harry has said we're only going to sign players that will improve the team, so if that means, nobody is available, go with what we have. I know that is very much the opposite of the modus operandi of recent years, but I think this is the blueprint to bring the club forward. As we don't have infinite funds or a club that is so heavily geared that it will fall into financial melt down ( 3 teams - all play in red - please God ! ) - this approach seems sensible to me. Huntelaar - unproven in a top league. Crouch - better than Pav ? I'm not convinced and I don't think anybody else can definitively claim they do either.
jolmember
The sub seats do look well comfy 123Spurs - I noticed that too ! There's a lot to be positive about at the moment - I think Gomes is going to emerge into one of the top keepers in the league this season, we have 4 solid centre backs in King, Woodie, Daws and Corluka, BAE has been playing as well as I've seen, we've got the next generation England right back coming from the Blades, we have a great holding midfielder in Wilson, great creativity in Modric, pace in Lennon, three proven Premiership strikers and I'm expecting great things of Pav now that he's had a break after 18 months non stop football. I'm not sure we need too many new faces - I don't think Levy lacks ambition, we're a club that's management appears to be improving all the time to me. In that respect, I think the days of us signing players pretty much for the sake of it ( Comolli ) are gone. Levy deserves credit for getting the money back for Zokora. Harry has said we're only going to sign players that will improve the team, so if that means, nobody is available, go with what we have. I know that is very much the opposite of the modus operandi of recent years, but I think this is the blueprint to bring the club forward. As we don't have infinite funds or a club that is so heavily geared that it will fall into financial melt down ( 3 teams - all play in red - please God ! ) - this approach seems sensible to me. Huntelaar - unproven in a top league. Crouch - better than Pav ? I'm not convinced and I don't think anybody else can definitively claim they do either.
jolmember
Sparks12...I dont want to have to be the one to tell you this but were not going to crack the top 4. Just not gonna happen. If anyone is going to do it, it will be man city, probably at the expense of arsenal. People act like spurs have a God given right to be at the top. Villa, Everton and man city all have that ambition too, and are as close to it as we are (2 are well run, as are we now, and one has unlimited cash). Which of the top 4 are we better than (or likely to quickly become better than)? what errors would you say Harry has made so far which have so frustrated you? To say that Harry is coasting and waiting for excuses is frankly ridiculous, I have considered his management to be a breath of fresh air! in Jan we needed a DM, a top striker and a system which worked and we got all three quickly and kicked on from there. Lets not forget that we were looking like being relegated at christmas and we finished within touching distance of villa and everton - Harry did that. Also, on Jol, yes he was great but you have to ask why the team was unfit for the start of that season, i mean that is basic basic stuff...im inclined not to think so, but perhaps he just got lucky with carrick and Berbs?
Joshtottenham
Sparks12...I dont want to have to be the one to tell you this but were not going to crack the top 4. Just not gonna happen. If anyone is going to do it, it will be man city, probably at the expense of arsenal. People act like spurs have a God given right to be at the top. Villa, Everton and man city all have that ambition too, and are as close to it as we are (2 are well run, as are we now, and one has unlimited cash). Which of the top 4 are we better than (or likely to quickly become better than)? what errors would you say Harry has made so far which have so frustrated you? To say that Harry is coasting and waiting for excuses is frankly ridiculous, I have considered his management to be a breath of fresh air! in Jan we needed a DM, a top striker and a system which worked and we got all three quickly and kicked on from there. Lets not forget that we were looking like being relegated at christmas and we finished within touching distance of villa and everton - Harry did that. Also, on Jol, yes he was great but you have to ask why the team was unfit for the start of that season, i mean that is basic basic stuff...im inclined not to think so, but perhaps he just got lucky with carrick and Berbs?
Joshtottenham
Reasons not to buy Huntelaar: Overrated, overpriced, unproven, not the kind of striker we need. Seriously, just becuase some larakin scores a hatfull of bicycle kicks in Holland doesn't make him a good player.
RVTSpurs
Reasons not to buy Huntelaar: Overrated, overpriced, unproven, not the kind of striker we need. Seriously, just becuase some larakin scores a hatfull of bicycle kicks in Holland doesn't make him a good player.
RVTSpurs
Latest news is that Martin O'Neill is sniffing around Jenas and Hutton. Surely we shouldn't consider selling to a rival - unless they would be prepared to swap a certain player ? This will be another interesting test of Harry and Levy's control of the club.
jolmember
Latest news is that Martin O'Neill is sniffing around Jenas and Hutton. Surely we shouldn't consider selling to a rival - unless they would be prepared to swap a certain player ? This will be another interesting test of Harry and Levy's control of the club.
jolmember
jolmember, I agree with a lot of what you say, I like what we have right now. I also believe that a stable team is a successfull team and I think we have suffered a lot from instability over the years. I think that Pav will really come into his own this season, I mean not ideal trying to break into the EPL after a full Russian season, not speaking the language etc. As his international record shows he is a quality player. Defoe will always be a good player, Keane willl rediscover his form, he didn't become a bad player overnight. Also GDS is scoring goals for Mexico, given a run he can be a great player for us. Crouch doesn't add anything!
Bermuda Boy
jolmember, I agree with a lot of what you say, I like what we have right now. I also believe that a stable team is a successfull team and I think we have suffered a lot from instability over the years. I think that Pav will really come into his own this season, I mean not ideal trying to break into the EPL after a full Russian season, not speaking the language etc. As his international record shows he is a quality player. Defoe will always be a good player, Keane willl rediscover his form, he didn't become a bad player overnight. Also GDS is scoring goals for Mexico, given a run he can be a great player for us. Crouch doesn't add anything!
Bermuda Boy
I agree that the team we have is good enough, we will also improve because of stability. I would not be bothered if we don't sign anyone. Any purchases will be improvements to the squad. This is a great window, because we don't need anyone, anything is a bonus to me!
KiwiSpur
I agree that the team we have is good enough, we will also improve because of stability. I would not be bothered if we don't sign anyone. Any purchases will be improvements to the squad. This is a great window, because we don't need anyone, anything is a bonus to me!
KiwiSpur
pull in a big name striker Harry leave Pav out and then lets push on.
Uskok
pull in a big name striker Harry leave Pav out and then lets push on.
Uskok
Let's see how Defoe goes with a full season. Palacios only played half a season with these guys as well. We saw Lennon and Modric starting to combine nicely and I expext that same midfield, if there's to be no incoming, will still improve alot as this season goes on. What we really need is the guy to partner Defoe, and if it's Crouch then it's way better than Pav and Keane. Sure he's not first choice for alot but he would make an instant impact and get us off to a better start. We have a good squad that was right up there with anyone second half of the season, let's let them continue to gel and not make wholesale changes. It could all backfire making more than one or 2 changes. But Pav is a huge concern to me, he has to go and be replaced asap. Who of our competitors, apart from City, has made huge improvements to their sqaud?? Nobody.
pompman
Let's see how Defoe goes with a full season. Palacios only played half a season with these guys as well. We saw Lennon and Modric starting to combine nicely and I expext that same midfield, if there's to be no incoming, will still improve alot as this season goes on. What we really need is the guy to partner Defoe, and if it's Crouch then it's way better than Pav and Keane. Sure he's not first choice for alot but he would make an instant impact and get us off to a better start. We have a good squad that was right up there with anyone second half of the season, let's let them continue to gel and not make wholesale changes. It could all backfire making more than one or 2 changes. But Pav is a huge concern to me, he has to go and be replaced asap. Who of our competitors, apart from City, has made huge improvements to their sqaud?? Nobody.
pompman
just look at giovanni, many of you may not rate him but he is F****N quality. that goal against Haiti was class and 2 assists. yes Haiti is crap but he is still a quality player.
6apeal
just look at giovanni, many of you may not rate him but he is F****N quality. that goal against Haiti was class and 2 assists. yes Haiti is crap but he is still a quality player.
6apeal
@SuperYido: You do realise that Huntelaar started his career at PSV at the age of 18 via their youth academy? He went on loan to De Graafschap for a short spell then went to Apeldoorn for the remainder of that season, scored 26 goals in 35 appearances (scoring in 74% of his matches). It was after that Heerenveen bought him and he scored 33 goals in 46 appearances (72%). After scoring 59 goals in two seasons (81 appearances - 73%), Ajax came sniffing. In the 3 years at the Amsterdam ArenA he scored 76 goals in 82 appearances (83%). That is what got Madrid's attention. He only played 20 matches, scoring 4 times for them and as is the norm in Madrid, players are thrust upon the manager. Will anyone unseat Raúl from the starting XI? I highly doubt it. Then there is Higuaín and Robben, not forgetting van Nistelrooy and bought/returning Álvaro Negredo. On top of those players you can add Ronaldo, Kaká and Benzema. Safe to say he isn't going to play at Madrid, he wouldn't even make the bench. Madrid are being sensible, realising their mistake and trying to recoup monies spent or at least sell him without taking a big loss. He is a proven striker with an unbelievable scoring rate for club and country (13 goals in 23 internationals - 56%). I'd go for Huntelaar given the choice of him or Crouch. No disrespect to Crouchie, but something like this doesn't happen very often, especially for us.
enormenuez
@SuperYido: You do realise that Huntelaar started his career at PSV at the age of 18 via their youth academy? He went on loan to De Graafschap for a short spell then went to Apeldoorn for the remainder of that season, scored 26 goals in 35 appearances (scoring in 74% of his matches). It was after that Heerenveen bought him and he scored 33 goals in 46 appearances (72%). After scoring 59 goals in two seasons (81 appearances - 73%), Ajax came sniffing. In the 3 years at the Amsterdam ArenA he scored 76 goals in 82 appearances (83%). That is what got Madrid's attention. He only played 20 matches, scoring 4 times for them and as is the norm in Madrid, players are thrust upon the manager. Will anyone unseat Raúl from the starting XI? I highly doubt it. Then there is Higuaín and Robben, not forgetting van Nistelrooy and bought/returning Álvaro Negredo. On top of those players you can add Ronaldo, Kaká and Benzema. Safe to say he isn't going to play at Madrid, he wouldn't even make the bench. Madrid are being sensible, realising their mistake and trying to recoup monies spent or at least sell him without taking a big loss. He is a proven striker with an unbelievable scoring rate for club and country (13 goals in 23 internationals - 56%). I'd go for Huntelaar given the choice of him or Crouch. No disrespect to Crouchie, but something like this doesn't happen very often, especially for us.
enormenuez
According to Valdano (Madrid Sporting Director) the only offical bid they have received is from Stuttgart. It just shows how much utter tripe the english papers write. I suspect we are not interested in him and that is a shame. However, we all know the papers don't like us and the more "stars" they can link us with that then "snub" us the more saitsfying for these pathetic Wet Spam and Goonscum supporting journos.
The Tailor
According to Valdano (Madrid Sporting Director) the only offical bid they have received is from Stuttgart. It just shows how much utter tripe the english papers write. I suspect we are not interested in him and that is a shame. However, we all know the papers don't like us and the more "stars" they can link us with that then "snub" us the more saitsfying for these pathetic Wet Spam and Goonscum supporting journos.
The Tailor
also agree 6apeal - Dos Santos is top drawer. If people cannot recognise that then they shouldn't be involved in football.
The Tailor
also agree 6apeal - Dos Santos is top drawer. If people cannot recognise that then they shouldn't be involved in football.
The Tailor
wow - nice. The website has just appeared in a new format....
The Tailor
wow - nice. The website has just appeared in a new format....
The Tailor
totally agree The Tailor. his goal against Haiti is an absolute peach, would have beaten cech in his prime.
6apeal
totally agree The Tailor. his goal against Haiti is an absolute peach, would have beaten cech in his prime.
6apeal
If we sign Crouch for 12 million and dont atleast put a bid in for Huntelaar it shows total lack of ambition adn I for one will be gutted! Its not like im asking to break the bank for him we have over 10 mill available from the sales of Zok and Gunter just shell the extra and get him on the books imagine the shirt sales alone not to mention the fact that he would help attract other big players ie Robben!! Infact in this economic climate im even considering not renewing my spurs membership! If they cant show me ambition then why should I show it??!! COYS FFS!!!
MullerTheYid
If we sign Crouch for 12 million and dont atleast put a bid in for Huntelaar it shows total lack of ambition adn I for one will be gutted! Its not like im asking to break the bank for him we have over 10 mill available from the sales of Zok and Gunter just shell the extra and get him on the books imagine the shirt sales alone not to mention the fact that he would help attract other big players ie Robben!! Infact in this economic climate im even considering not renewing my spurs membership! If they cant show me ambition then why should I show it??!! COYS FFS!!!
MullerTheYid
the thign for me is I have seen Dos Santos play a few games for Spurs in the early Ramos days and he was one of our only effective players. He really hasn't been given a chance by Redknapp and I think that is a shame and our loss.
The Tailor
the thign for me is I have seen Dos Santos play a few games for Spurs in the early Ramos days and he was one of our only effective players. He really hasn't been given a chance by Redknapp and I think that is a shame and our loss.
The Tailor
Whats wrong with Peter Crouch? Its proven he can play with Defoe, he loves Redknapp and is a proven striker in the premier league. As soon as he scores in an England shirt you english are all over him like a cheap suit. He could even help Bent, who needs as much of it as possible. Pav to go, raise cash for others. We need to OUT Robbie Keane, Jenas off to Villa or Inter and put cash into getting Ashley Young then you see how many times we see the Stick Insect up front scoring. May i be as bold to say id love if we signed Becks over the winter as well. I have to say though, very quiet this summer, even with wheeler dealer Redknapp.
Real Modric
Whats wrong with Peter Crouch? Its proven he can play with Defoe, he loves Redknapp and is a proven striker in the premier league. As soon as he scores in an England shirt you english are all over him like a cheap suit. He could even help Bent, who needs as much of it as possible. Pav to go, raise cash for others. We need to OUT Robbie Keane, Jenas off to Villa or Inter and put cash into getting Ashley Young then you see how many times we see the Stick Insect up front scoring. May i be as bold to say id love if we signed Becks over the winter as well. I have to say though, very quiet this summer, even with wheeler dealer Redknapp.
Real Modric
I think this article is absolute, utter garbage. It annoys me how many Spurs fans are so quick to jump on the "FFS bandwagon" and complain about things they know absolutely nothing about. As far as I'm concerned we have never been in for Huntelaar, nobody other than the newspapers ever suggested we were, and they only said it because Levy was in Madrid, sorting out the compensation for Ramos with Sevilla!! It's an absolute pill of crap. Now as for not signing anyone SO FAR; how much money did we spend in January? Basically a phucking fortune, more than most clubs will pay this summer and did Harry just buy players that would get us out of relegation? No, he bought the types players he wanted for this season that would help us compete for Europe, which, happened surprisingly quickly and we ended the season in Champs League form. It's ridiculous that there are so many of you complaining that we arent spending loads of money, when we spent so much just 6 months ago!! There is also the inflation of player prices this summer that is leading to a lot of clubs becoming apprehensive about dipping their toes in the transfer pool, this may also be factor for us. I just think for any Spurs fan to start crying at this stage of the season is arrogant and disrespectful, there has not been the hint of "lack of ambition" this year and as far as I can see, there are clear reasons why we havent bought anyone. Yet.
KierzoSBC
I think this article is absolute, utter garbage. It annoys me how many Spurs fans are so quick to jump on the "FFS bandwagon" and complain about things they know absolutely nothing about. As far as I'm concerned we have never been in for Huntelaar, nobody other than the newspapers ever suggested we were, and they only said it because Levy was in Madrid, sorting out the compensation for Ramos with Sevilla!! It's an absolute pill of crap. Now as for not signing anyone SO FAR; how much money did we spend in January? Basically a phucking fortune, more than most clubs will pay this summer and did Harry just buy players that would get us out of relegation? No, he bought the types players he wanted for this season that would help us compete for Europe, which, happened surprisingly quickly and we ended the season in Champs League form. It's ridiculous that there are so many of you complaining that we arent spending loads of money, when we spent so much just 6 months ago!! There is also the inflation of player prices this summer that is leading to a lot of clubs becoming apprehensive about dipping their toes in the transfer pool, this may also be factor for us. I just think for any Spurs fan to start crying at this stage of the season is arrogant and disrespectful, there has not been the hint of "lack of ambition" this year and as far as I can see, there are clear reasons why we havent bought anyone. Yet.
KierzoSBC
we don't need any additions, if our players performed at the level they should, we have quiet an amazing team. And i can see 'arry doing that.
6apeal
we don't need any additions, if our players performed at the level they should, we have quiet an amazing team. And i can see 'arry doing that.
6apeal
"This malaise and lack of foresight and vision infecting the club is a worrying thing for those who fondly remember the glory days and when true superstars graced the White Hart Lane pitch." Lack of ambition.... Well i dunno anymore. Firstly a word to our forgotten current stars, in Modric,Lennon,Palacious, Keano,Woodgate we owe u an appology, then to the humble hard working subs who work hard to try earn a spot in the starting line up,Defoe,Pav,Dawson,Hutton,Dos Santos,Bale feck even Bently!!! Please do continue your determined work under the guidence of Arry The Nap! IMO yes we need to sign 1 or two players of significance,but in the crazy crazy market of over inflated player fees etc. how can we even remotely understand what Levy and co are having to put up with??? I sit in anticipation for a new player to grace the spurs shirt however i seriously doubt Levy,Arry or spurs lack any ambition to sign top qaulity players.
Mix26
"This malaise and lack of foresight and vision infecting the club is a worrying thing for those who fondly remember the glory days and when true superstars graced the White Hart Lane pitch." Lack of ambition.... Well i dunno anymore. Firstly a word to our forgotten current stars, in Modric,Lennon,Palacious, Keano,Woodgate we owe u an appology, then to the humble hard working subs who work hard to try earn a spot in the starting line up,Defoe,Pav,Dawson,Hutton,Dos Santos,Bale feck even Bently!!! Please do continue your determined work under the guidence of Arry The Nap! IMO yes we need to sign 1 or two players of significance,but in the crazy crazy market of over inflated player fees etc. how can we even remotely understand what Levy and co are having to put up with??? I sit in anticipation for a new player to grace the spurs shirt however i seriously doubt Levy,Arry or spurs lack any ambition to sign top qaulity players.
Mix26
here Here Kierzo
Mix26
here Here Kierzo
Mix26
Kierzo, you forgot to mention the tax changes. Also very relavant in Huntelaar's case.
LizardSpur
Kierzo, you forgot to mention the tax changes. Also very relavant in Huntelaar's case.
LizardSpur
6apeal, if your auntie had bollox she would be your uncle, but it aint gonner happen. If anyone can suggest that the likes of Huntelaar, Maxi Rodriguez, Robben, would not improve us they need a white stick and a labrador. Sod the money we spent in January, that has no bearing on whether we spend what is necessary in this window. It appears that Mr. Lewis "our billionaire owner" has more interest in buying Mitchell and Butlers brewery and pub chain, then pumping sufficient funds into Spurs to make us fully competitive.
Frank
6apeal, if your auntie had bollox she would be your uncle, but it aint gonner happen. If anyone can suggest that the likes of Huntelaar, Maxi Rodriguez, Robben, would not improve us they need a white stick and a labrador. Sod the money we spent in January, that has no bearing on whether we spend what is necessary in this window. It appears that Mr. Lewis "our billionaire owner" has more interest in buying Mitchell and Butlers brewery and pub chain, then pumping sufficient funds into Spurs to make us fully competitive.
Frank
To show our ambition we are allegedly interested in David Beckham. Ill bet Levy cant sleep for seeing this mirage of all these "fans" walkng down high streets all over the world, with Spurs shirts on with "Beckham" written acroos the back. All those £40s, Ill bet he is wet himself, think what that will do for the "profit" figures on his beloved balance sheet, he will get another house point from Lewis and move closer to his top group executive job. Thats what you call ambition, just add the word "personal" and youve got it in one.
Frank
To show our ambition we are allegedly interested in David Beckham. Ill bet Levy cant sleep for seeing this mirage of all these "fans" walkng down high streets all over the world, with Spurs shirts on with "Beckham" written acroos the back. All those £40s, Ill bet he is wet himself, think what that will do for the "profit" figures on his beloved balance sheet, he will get another house point from Lewis and move closer to his top group executive job. Thats what you call ambition, just add the word "personal" and youve got it in one.
Frank
Childish frank
Mix26
Childish frank
Mix26
Frank, if we go out spend mega coin on all these players and end up like leeds, I'm blaming you!!
KierzoSBC
Frank, if we go out spend mega coin on all these players and end up like leeds, I'm blaming you!!
KierzoSBC
To end up like Leeds we would have to spend money we havent got, which of course was what Ridsdale did. I would respectfully suggest we are a long from being in that position. Nobody suggests we should follow the Leeds line, but we regularly brag about being in the top 15 worlds richest football clubs.
Frank
So how ambitious are you? http://fantasy.premierleague.com/ league code 17801-75760...go on splash that cash...
artyb
To end up like Leeds we would have to spend money we havent got, which of course was what Ridsdale did. I would respectfully suggest we are a long from being in that position. Nobody suggests we should follow the Leeds line, but we regularly brag about being in the top 15 worlds richest football clubs.
Frank
So how ambitious are you? http://fantasy.premierleague.com/ league code 17801-75760...go on splash that cash...
artyb
Incidently where is GIK these days, the debate re transfers and the details re available cash resources etc etc is right up his street, his input would be very interesting.
Frank
Incidently where is GIK these days, the debate re transfers and the details re available cash resources etc etc is right up his street, his input would be very interesting.
Frank
Frank we also get ridiculed annually for spending mega bucks on players and still finishing closer to 10th than 4th. A quiet summer, as boring as it might be for people who want signings could be exactly what we need. A smooth changeover from one season to the next, when do we ever experience that?
bernio3000
Frank we also get ridiculed annually for spending mega bucks on players and still finishing closer to 10th than 4th. A quiet summer, as boring as it might be for people who want signings could be exactly what we need. A smooth changeover from one season to the next, when do we ever experience that?
bernio3000
Bernio3000, I fully agree with that, but the adventures of Commolli and Co. are the past, history, and were wrong, thats why he got the big heave. In business you cant cry over split milk, must put it down to experiance, and move on. What Im trying to affirm is that with a coach who has proved his ability to save last season, give him the tools, and resources, to take the club at least back to where we were 3 seasons ago.
Frank
Bernio3000, I fully agree with that, but the adventures of Commolli and Co. are the past, history, and were wrong, thats why he got the big heave. In business you cant cry over split milk, must put it down to experiance, and move on. What Im trying to affirm is that with a coach who has proved his ability to save last season, give him the tools, and resources, to take the club at least back to where we were 3 seasons ago.
Frank
I certainly agree with that Frank, and Levy cannot resist a buy if it's viable. I said at the start of the window he'll chuck £20mil in the pot, and judging by our bids for RSC and Barry, I'm not far off. If the right player comes along then Harry will have money to spend, I'm almost certain. People (including myself) are whining about Huntelaar, but it could be that Harry genuinely rates Crouch higher than him, well in terms of what he'd bring to the team, and for the price. I'm warming to the idea of Crouch returning every day. He got the best out of Defoe in their time at Pompey. Then again, I think Defoe can make anyone look good on his day. Even Pav was looking good when they played together!
bernio3000
I certainly agree with that Frank, and Levy cannot resist a buy if it's viable. I said at the start of the window he'll chuck £20mil in the pot, and judging by our bids for RSC and Barry, I'm not far off. If the right player comes along then Harry will have money to spend, I'm almost certain. People (including myself) are whining about Huntelaar, but it could be that Harry genuinely rates Crouch higher than him, well in terms of what he'd bring to the team, and for the price. I'm warming to the idea of Crouch returning every day. He got the best out of Defoe in their time at Pompey. Then again, I think Defoe can make anyone look good on his day. Even Pav was looking good when they played together!
bernio3000
JoshTottenham .... I think you might have misunderstood my comment. I am very, very, very much so of the belief that we are no where near ready to challenge for the top 4 yet. We need a year of stability to settle the whole club down, finish 7th (if that's good enough) for Europe, and get the players moulding into a proper team. Then after that, hopefully at the start of the 2010/2011 season, we can start again like we were in 2006/2007 with expectations of perhaps at least giving the 4th spot a bit of competition. I agree with you that right now the top 4 is an absolute ridiculous aim. I was sayin about Harry blaming City on our inability from a future perspective. If Man City turn out to be a major contender in the next couple of seasons, and the big 4 remain just as good (or hard to reach) then it would be a very easy way out when asked about the club's ambition; to blame Man City's spending to making a 'Top 5'. And thats the route i think Harry would take; as i don't believe he has the ambition we as fans desire. That was the point i was tryin to make. We don't have a god given right in the slightest you are right. But with the history we've got, and the team we have now, i don't think it's out of line to have high expectations, or at least be in Europe year-in-year-out.
Sparks12
JoshTottenham .... To speak about my reasons why i don't trust Redknapp now. Firstly, i don't think he's big enough to manage our club in the first place. He's proved very good at managin to keep clubs in the Premiership yes (although he was unable to do so once), and i have nothing to but positive comments to say about the way he turned Pompey from absolute football nobodies into an established side with an F.A Cup to their name. BUT, this is Tottenham. Agreed the last 2 years have been a shambles but is Redknapp going to lead us to glory.? Honestly.? We should be challenging for European places without breaking sweat. Once we do have stability at our club, and all the players are settled in etc, our strikers start scoring the goals we know they can etc etc etc, and then when we are in a position to push on and achieve things (be that in a year's time or 2), is Redknapp the man to take us there. Yes, he did do a wonderful job of saving us from relegation, BU THATS WHAT HE'S GOOD AT.! And to be honest, of the teams that we finished above, there wasn't a single team that played particularly well and it was just that we were better. There was alot of bang average teams in the bottom half last season. So i think that once we got playing and winning then it was a massive help that the other teams were so bad, this is why we ended up finishing so high. We did get some very good results against the likes of Chelsea and Liverpool yes, but if we had started off well in the first place then we would have come alot higher then 8th. How much of that is down to Harry.? He can be applauded for his 'pat-on-the-back' confidence boost yeah, cos i doubt that was Ramos's way. But all our players have got talent. He bought back Jermaine Defoe, i'll give him praise for that. But he also bought back Chimbonda. If anyone can justify that, or argue that as ambition id like to hear it. He also bought back Keane purely on the basis that we needed another striker, Keane would cost nothin as Liverpool still owed us money for him, and Harry thought his influence would help the team further. Ok, fair enough, but what do we do with him now.? I don't want him at Spurs. Takin him on a loan deal until the end of the season was the correct play. It's the lack of ambition which angers me, and the Crouch example sums it all up. As mentioned here, there is nothin in the Huntelaar story, but why is he so quick to say 'i'd love Crouch here' and say nothin about Huntelaar.? He aims too low, sideways. He pulled us out of the reserve league sayin players would benefit more from loan deals, but how many have gone through already.? 2 officially to my knowledge, i might be wrong. I don't know exactly how many players we have in the reserve team of how many youth players the situation would effect, but im guessing he's gona have to loan out about 2o players if this is the case. If he does so, great. But haven’t seen much yet. Another point is the staff he has employed at the Lane. It seems to me that it is all one big gathering of his mates from over the years. Kevin Bond has gone from managing Bournemouth to being our assistant manager. Ambitious on Tottenham's behalf.? Hmm. He's got a big job and bought his pals along for the ride. In response to your question about Martin Jol, i understand what your sayin. We went from 5th back to back, and then startin with the highest expectations to that terrible start. I guess you could argue Darren Bent's arrival perhaps ruffled the strike force as his buy was unnecessary. Or that we still hadn't gotten over the loss of Carrick. I dont think that question can be answered in truth. I won't speak bad of Jol though, that's for sure. In response then, what do you see Harry being able to accomplish with Tottenham, where do you think he can take us before he fulfils his potential.?
Sparks12
JoshTottenham .... I think you might have misunderstood my comment. I am very, very, very much so of the belief that we are no where near ready to challenge for the top 4 yet. We need a year of stability to settle the whole club down, finish 7th (if that's good enough) for Europe, and get the players moulding into a proper team. Then after that, hopefully at the start of the 2010/2011 season, we can start again like we were in 2006/2007 with expectations of perhaps at least giving the 4th spot a bit of competition. I agree with you that right now the top 4 is an absolute ridiculous aim. I was sayin about Harry blaming City on our inability from a future perspective. If Man City turn out to be a major contender in the next couple of seasons, and the big 4 remain just as good (or hard to reach) then it would be a very easy way out when asked about the club's ambition; to blame Man City's spending to making a 'Top 5'. And thats the route i think Harry would take; as i don't believe he has the ambition we as fans desire. That was the point i was tryin to make. We don't have a god given right in the slightest you are right. But with the history we've got, and the team we have now, i don't think it's out of line to have high expectations, or at least be in Europe year-in-year-out.
Sparks12
JoshTottenham .... To speak about my reasons why i don't trust Redknapp now. Firstly, i don't think he's big enough to manage our club in the first place. He's proved very good at managin to keep clubs in the Premiership yes (although he was unable to do so once), and i have nothing to but positive comments to say about the way he turned Pompey from absolute football nobodies into an established side with an F.A Cup to their name. BUT, this is Tottenham. Agreed the last 2 years have been a shambles but is Redknapp going to lead us to glory.? Honestly.? We should be challenging for European places without breaking sweat. Once we do have stability at our club, and all the players are settled in etc, our strikers start scoring the goals we know they can etc etc etc, and then when we are in a position to push on and achieve things (be that in a year's time or 2), is Redknapp the man to take us there. Yes, he did do a wonderful job of saving us from relegation, BU THATS WHAT HE'S GOOD AT.! And to be honest, of the teams that we finished above, there wasn't a single team that played particularly well and it was just that we were better. There was alot of bang average teams in the bottom half last season. So i think that once we got playing and winning then it was a massive help that the other teams were so bad, this is why we ended up finishing so high. We did get some very good results against the likes of Chelsea and Liverpool yes, but if we had started off well in the first place then we would have come alot higher then 8th. How much of that is down to Harry.? He can be applauded for his 'pat-on-the-back' confidence boost yeah, cos i doubt that was Ramos's way. But all our players have got talent. He bought back Jermaine Defoe, i'll give him praise for that. But he also bought back Chimbonda. If anyone can justify that, or argue that as ambition id like to hear it. He also bought back Keane purely on the basis that we needed another striker, Keane would cost nothin as Liverpool still owed us money for him, and Harry thought his influence would help the team further. Ok, fair enough, but what do we do with him now.? I don't want him at Spurs. Takin him on a loan deal until the end of the season was the correct play. It's the lack of ambition which angers me, and the Crouch example sums it all up. As mentioned here, there is nothin in the Huntelaar story, but why is he so quick to say 'i'd love Crouch here' and say nothin about Huntelaar.? He aims too low, sideways. He pulled us out of the reserve league sayin players would benefit more from loan deals, but how many have gone through already.? 2 officially to my knowledge, i might be wrong. I don't know exactly how many players we have in the reserve team of how many youth players the situation would effect, but im guessing he's gona have to loan out about 2o players if this is the case. If he does so, great. But haven’t seen much yet. Another point is the staff he has employed at the Lane. It seems to me that it is all one big gathering of his mates from over the years. Kevin Bond has gone from managing Bournemouth to being our assistant manager. Ambitious on Tottenham's behalf.? Hmm. He's got a big job and bought his pals along for the ride. In response to your question about Martin Jol, i understand what your sayin. We went from 5th back to back, and then startin with the highest expectations to that terrible start. I guess you could argue Darren Bent's arrival perhaps ruffled the strike force as his buy was unnecessary. Or that we still hadn't gotten over the loss of Carrick. I dont think that question can be answered in truth. I won't speak bad of Jol though, that's for sure. In response then, what do you see Harry being able to accomplish with Tottenham, where do you think he can take us before he fulfils his potential.?
Sparks12
I just seen how much I've actually written, sorry people.!
Sparks12
I just seen how much I've actually written, sorry people.!
Sparks12
Sparks, fair comments but I disagree with the vast majority of it. I cant be arsed to into all the various parts but my response would involve, "playing like a team", "stronger", "harder to beat", "bottom to eigth" and all that but really, if this is you SUPPORTING your football team, I'd hate to see you write about a team you didnt like.
KierzoSBC
Sparks, fair comments but I disagree with the vast majority of it. I cant be arsed to into all the various parts but my response would involve, "playing like a team", "stronger", "harder to beat", "bottom to eigth" and all that but really, if this is you SUPPORTING your football team, I'd hate to see you write about a team you didnt like.
KierzoSBC
I don't think we lack ambition, far from it. Every year we come out and start talking about Spurs making the top four, and thats before a balls been kicked. We just lack consistancy, we never have a good start to a season ever. I'm not sure of Harry anymore, if anyone lacks ambition, its him.
scratch910
I don't think we lack ambition, far from it. Every year we come out and start talking about Spurs making the top four, and thats before a balls been kicked. We just lack consistancy, we never have a good start to a season ever. I'm not sure of Harry anymore, if anyone lacks ambition, its him.
scratch910
Kierzo, it is because i support my team so much that i am writing this about Redknapp. I want Spurs to be the team we were 3 years ago and to be considered one of the best teams in the country which i believe we should be. Im knocking the manager and how i don't think he is the right man to achieve success for us. I'm not knocking the team/club in the slightest. Pay attention.
Sparks12
Kierzo, it is because i support my team so much that i am writing this about Redknapp. I want Spurs to be the team we were 3 years ago and to be considered one of the best teams in the country which i believe we should be. Im knocking the manager and how i don't think he is the right man to achieve success for us. I'm not knocking the team/club in the slightest. Pay attention.
Sparks12
But Sparks, Harry is now our manager and until things go wrong under him, which I have yet to see even the hint of, you should be behind him. If everyone was like you we wouldnt have a hope in hell of success this season because you're writing off our chances before the management has even had a chance to warm it's seats. I could understand where you were coming from, if after Redknapp arrived there were no signs of improvement but considering our form before and after his arrival, your extremely in depth arguments above have absolutely no substance. Tell me this, had we beaten Blackburn at Ewood or beat Unite in the penalty shootout, would you still be saying this? That's how close we came to playing in Europe.
KierzoSBC
But Sparks, Harry is now our manager and until things go wrong under him, which I have yet to see even the hint of, you should be behind him. If everyone was like you we wouldnt have a hope in hell of success this season because you're writing off our chances before the management has even had a chance to warm it's seats. I could understand where you were coming from, if after Redknapp arrived there were no signs of improvement but considering our form before and after his arrival, your extremely in depth arguments above have absolutely no substance. Tell me this, had we beaten Blackburn at Ewood or beat Unite in the penalty shootout, would you still be saying this? That's how close we came to playing in Europe.
KierzoSBC
I understand that he did an amazing job considering our poor start. But like i said, that is exactly what he is renowned for doing, and cos our team is so much better then any he's had before, he managed to climb that bit higher. Also, like i said, i think it was partly down to how rubbish all the other teams around us were as well. I think he will bring us stability yes, which is the one thing i have been pleading with the gods for our club to have, i am satisfied he will do that yes. But when it comes to pushing on and challengin for honours has he got it.? Im not convinced. His ambition has to be questioned when he's targetting players like Crouch. Signings like that will confirm our mid-table UEFA Cup-challengin status and that's where we will remain, certainly no higher. I would still be sayin that if we won the shootout or had a couple of extra points yes. I am glad we're not in Europe this year, i think it's a huge blessing as it allows us to concentrate on rebuilding the squad. Like ive said though, i pray that he proves me wrong and brings plenty of success.
Sparks12
I understand that he did an amazing job considering our poor start. But like i said, that is exactly what he is renowned for doing, and cos our team is so much better then any he's had before, he managed to climb that bit higher. Also, like i said, i think it was partly down to how rubbish all the other teams around us were as well. I think he will bring us stability yes, which is the one thing i have been pleading with the gods for our club to have, i am satisfied he will do that yes. But when it comes to pushing on and challengin for honours has he got it.? Im not convinced. His ambition has to be questioned when he's targetting players like Crouch. Signings like that will confirm our mid-table UEFA Cup-challengin status and that's where we will remain, certainly no higher. I would still be sayin that if we won the shootout or had a couple of extra points yes. I am glad we're not in Europe this year, i think it's a huge blessing as it allows us to concentrate on rebuilding the squad. Like ive said though, i pray that he proves me wrong and brings plenty of success.
Sparks12
 

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