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A few good men...

With slightly less than two weeks remaining of the summer transfer window, the positions of several of our current players are still looking far from secure.

As much as there is constant speculation of one of two big name and bigger money signings and departures, such as Bentley and Jenas, while talk of Sissoko and Young still regularly feature on the back pages, talk of some less heralded names seems to have slipped down the ladder of importance.

One of the first clues to the futures of a couple of Spurs men will perhaps be clearer tomorrow, as Ledley King will almost certainly be missing at Hull, leaving Vedran Corluka to move inside and the need for a replacement right back needed. Who Harry picks will potentially leave one and maybe two players in no doubt that their time is up at White Hart Lane, as Alan Hutton and Pascal Chimbonda battle the young pretender Kyle Naughton for the full back up role.

The favourite for the role seems to be Hutton, but should Harry go for the Sheffield man, you can be certain that both Hutton and Chimbonda will be heading for the exit as soon as a sensible offer comes in. The injuries to Dawson and Woodgate may yet be a reason why they remain at the club in the short term, but I would expect at least one to be allowed to leave as soon as possible, the selection at Hull will just rubber stamp Harry`s intentions.

As the future of Dorian Dervite will continue to be an issue until he signs a new deal or is sold and sadly I see the latter as being the only solution as the signing of Bassong has pushed the young Frenchman a place further down the pecking order and he is our sixth choice at best and for his own development, I honestly can`t see him signing a deal and can we honestly blame him for wanting to move? Once the fitness of Daws and/or woody is clearer, so will the future of Dervite.

Sadly for Gareth Bale, his knee injury has halted his ability to impress the coaching staff or get a loan move to further his development. The fact the club haven`t bought cover for Benoit Assou-Ekotto, surely means they are happy with Gareth as cover or see others as adequate back up should BAE suffer injury or to fill in when he potentially heads for the African Cup of Nations in January. With Sebastien Bassong also likely to be away, we are not exactly flush with options, leaving a right footer to fit in or move Jamie O`Hara back to a defensive role. Should no other left back come in, It wouldn`t seem unreasonable that Harry is happy with Bale as back up and he remains part of his plans, but I think it will be a close run thing and may again be down to no positive interest from other clubs.

With the "Ghetto kid" growing up and becoming respectable, there is potential for Boateng to have a future at Spurs, but as things stand I honestly can`t see where this future lies. If we assume that Hudd and O`Hara stay, along with Palacios and Modric, even if we do sell Jermaine, it will almost certainly bring in another midfielder and not give an opportunity for The Prince to show his worth. With emerging talent in the form of Bostock, Livermore and Parrett, all potential Spurs stars of the future. The likelihood that Boateng will be anything more than an occasional bench player seems remote and he will again be seeking regular football.

For many the most frustrating player on our fringe, will be Giovani Dos Santos. The new king of Mexican football, following his outstanding performances in the summers CONCACAF Gold Cup and his countries first away win against the USA in ten years. As much as this has raised his profile, it may have actually hindered his progress at Spurs. With no pre-season, although 100% fit, Gio will be a stranger to many of his team mates and therefore I can only see a peripheral role unless he takes a rare chance or others leave and Harry takes a chance.

With four top quality strikers to keep happy and others like Bentley and Danny Rose pushing for playing time, I really don`t see too many opportunities for Gio to impress and I almost feel an embarrassed silence from the club as they seem happy to ignore his achievements for Mexico, whilst shouting lesser success by other squad players from the rooftops. It is as if the club are trying to forget he exists.

Going by Harry`s history of selecting and building teams around small and skillful players, such as Modric, Joe Cole and Eyal Berkovic, the idea that Gio isn`t a Harry player seems unlikely. So whether there are deeper rooted issues or there is simply no room at the club for another flair player I don`t know, but the silence is deafening for me..

Should Spurs look to bring in more new faces, some of these players could be needed as sales to balance the books as well as the squad and as disappointing it would be for some to leave, it looks likely that the majority are on their way at some stage in the near future, if not for Tottenham's sake, but for the players themselves...






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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Tuesday August 18 2009
Time: 4:15AM

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Chimbonda (no need)and Dervite (not good enough) can go, no-one is going to buy an injured Bale so he is here til Jan when we will probably need him. KPB should be given some game time, maybe off the bench in games like Hull away. GDS should be on the field whenever and whereever there is the chance that we cannot win or lose.
TeddyLyon
18/08/2009 04:50:00
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As always your articles is a good read. Ox do you not sleep? I think Gareth Bale will be given time and really do think that everyone at Tottenham is stumped as to what to do with Gio. A lot will depend on whether he is prepared to keep biding his time. He is still very young despite his acheivements. Hutton on Wednesday for me, BUT if he is not first choice he is an expensive backup. Dervitte will have to go and what to do with the prince??
KiwiSpur
18/08/2009 04:50:00
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Chimbonda (no need)and Dervite (not good enough) can go, no-one is going to buy an injured Bale so he is here til Jan when we will probably need him. KPB should be given some game time, maybe off the bench in games like Hull away. GDS should be on the field whenever and whereever there is the chance that we cannot win or lose.
TeddyLyon
18/08/2009 04:50:00
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As always your articles is a good read. Ox do you not sleep? I think Gareth Bale will be given time and really do think that everyone at Tottenham is stumped as to what to do with Gio. A lot will depend on whether he is prepared to keep biding his time. He is still very young despite his acheivements. Hutton on Wednesday for me, BUT if he is not first choice he is an expensive backup. Dervitte will have to go and what to do with the prince??
KiwiSpur
18/08/2009 04:50:00
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Just had another though after reading your comment Teddy. Will Harry be brave enough to play the likes of Gio, Prince and others in the CC games?
KiwiSpur
18/08/2009 04:52:00
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Just had another though after reading your comment Teddy. Will Harry be brave enough to play the likes of Gio, Prince and others in the CC games?
KiwiSpur
18/08/2009 04:52:00
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oxspur, always a good read but don't you sleep
cyprus yid
18/08/2009 05:39:00
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oxspur, always a good read but don't you sleep
cyprus yid
18/08/2009 05:39:00
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Kiwi, yes I think he will, we have Doncaster in CC round 2 and that will be the perfect place to start. You could start that with say Pav and GDS playing as a second forward and bring on Defoe or Keane in his place if needed. In addition to playing time they need to be played in their correct positions. If we are 2-0 up at home with 15 minutes to go against Wolves bring them on. If we are 3-0 down at Old Trafford same thing bring them on. There are 6 spots on the subs bench plus the keeper, 3 for experienced players and 3 for the "young uns." Against Liverpool we had two RB's on the bench why can't one of those spots go to GDS?
TeddyLyon
18/08/2009 05:50:00
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Kiwi, yes I think he will, we have Doncaster in CC round 2 and that will be the perfect place to start. You could start that with say Pav and GDS playing as a second forward and bring on Defoe or Keane in his place if needed. In addition to playing time they need to be played in their correct positions. If we are 2-0 up at home with 15 minutes to go against Wolves bring them on. If we are 3-0 down at Old Trafford same thing bring them on. There are 6 spots on the subs bench plus the keeper, 3 for experienced players and 3 for the "young uns." Against Liverpool we had two RB's on the bench why can't one of those spots go to GDS?
TeddyLyon
18/08/2009 05:50:00
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I have no idea where Gio fits in and to be honest, I missed the CONCACAF Gold Cup. However, it really is an extremely weak field for that tournament, other than the USA and Mexico. USA may just have had an off day - it happens. So while Gio and Vela seem to have done exceedingly well, I think we should note that the stats may be flattering to an extent. I was excited about Gio's arrival, but I'm a bit lost as to his place in the squad to be honest, as he certainly ain't a midfielder for a 442 system and I don't see him making it into the 1st team as a striker, although I think he could do a job as a 2nd striker if needed. I'm guessing a loan to a club where he'll play more often is most likely for now - perhaps back to the Tractor Boys. As for the RB berth, it's clear we're waiting for bids. I think Harry would sell either Hutton or Chimbo for a good offer tbh and I'm ok with that, although I'd MUCH rather see Hutton stay of the 2 ideally.
wayne king
18/08/2009 06:11:00
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I have no idea where Gio fits in and to be honest, I missed the CONCACAF Gold Cup. However, it really is an extremely weak field for that tournament, other than the USA and Mexico. USA may just have had an off day - it happens. So while Gio and Vela seem to have done exceedingly well, I think we should note that the stats may be flattering to an extent. I was excited about Gio's arrival, but I'm a bit lost as to his place in the squad to be honest, as he certainly ain't a midfielder for a 442 system and I don't see him making it into the 1st team as a striker, although I think he could do a job as a 2nd striker if needed. I'm guessing a loan to a club where he'll play more often is most likely for now - perhaps back to the Tractor Boys. As for the RB berth, it's clear we're waiting for bids. I think Harry would sell either Hutton or Chimbo for a good offer tbh and I'm ok with that, although I'd MUCH rather see Hutton stay of the 2 ideally.
wayne king
18/08/2009 06:11:00
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After villa's poor start don't be surprised if they come looking for someone here.
weststandenclosure
18/08/2009 08:46:00
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After villa's poor start don't be surprised if they come looking for someone here.
weststandenclosure
18/08/2009 08:46:00
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Over these next 2 weeks I want to see 3 or 4 of the players move on so we can buy a Pallacios MkII type player. That for me should be our priority. Chimbo is probably favourite with a decent reputation and his affordability. I'll be keeping an eye on the bench again on Weds as it was clear that with our 4 key injuries (Woodgate, Dawson, Jenas and Bale) there were players like Chimbo, Boateng, Gio, Rose, Dervite, Bostock etc who are still not in the first 22. Some will be loaned out as they're not established yet. Others though like Boateng, Gio and Chimbonda now have to be favourites to move on. I wouldn't be surprised if there is still a fringe player like Bentley who may move on as well. Any way you look at it a squad of 28 with only 2 keepers is too big to have tight knit squad when you only have league and domestic cups to worry about.
muttley
18/08/2009 08:53:00
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Over these next 2 weeks I want to see 3 or 4 of the players move on so we can buy a Pallacios MkII type player. That for me should be our priority. Chimbo is probably favourite with a decent reputation and his affordability. I'll be keeping an eye on the bench again on Weds as it was clear that with our 4 key injuries (Woodgate, Dawson, Jenas and Bale) there were players like Chimbo, Boateng, Gio, Rose, Dervite, Bostock etc who are still not in the first 22. Some will be loaned out as they're not established yet. Others though like Boateng, Gio and Chimbonda now have to be favourites to move on. I wouldn't be surprised if there is still a fringe player like Bentley who may move on as well. Any way you look at it a squad of 28 with only 2 keepers is too big to have tight knit squad when you only have league and domestic cups to worry about.
muttley
18/08/2009 08:53:00
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For me, the only real investment in playing staff we need to make is in a player that can opporate as a left winger and central attacking midfielder. Unfortunately these types of players dont come cheap, especially the caliber of player we will need if we want to improve on Jenas. There are a few out there; Arda Turan and Rafael Van Der Vaart for example. It would mean then that the players that Ox has mentioned above could well play a massive part in our season, in the sense that it could take at least 2 or 3 of those to fund this sort of aquisition. I still have reasonably high hopes for the likes of Bale, Bentley, Hutton and Gio but if it would mean losing 2 of those so that we could bring in a player that would improve us as a team and offer an extra dimension, I couldnt really complain. Saying that, maybe a stop gap type player like Martin Petrov or Kieron Richardson would provide an extra option from the bench and not cost anywhere near the likes of VDV. Obviously these types of player lack the quality of the all action Dutchman, but what it does do is allow us to hold on to our potential world beaters. At least until 2010.
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 09:16:00
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For me, the only real investment in playing staff we need to make is in a player that can opporate as a left winger and central attacking midfielder. Unfortunately these types of players dont come cheap, especially the caliber of player we will need if we want to improve on Jenas. There are a few out there; Arda Turan and Rafael Van Der Vaart for example. It would mean then that the players that Ox has mentioned above could well play a massive part in our season, in the sense that it could take at least 2 or 3 of those to fund this sort of aquisition. I still have reasonably high hopes for the likes of Bale, Bentley, Hutton and Gio but if it would mean losing 2 of those so that we could bring in a player that would improve us as a team and offer an extra dimension, I couldnt really complain. Saying that, maybe a stop gap type player like Martin Petrov or Kieron Richardson would provide an extra option from the bench and not cost anywhere near the likes of VDV. Obviously these types of player lack the quality of the all action Dutchman, but what it does do is allow us to hold on to our potential world beaters. At least until 2010.
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 09:16:00
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i think van der vaart is class so is sneider and if u want a left try harder for robben
Hackspur
18/08/2009 09:27:00
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i think van der vaart is class so is sneider and if u want a left try harder for robben
Hackspur
18/08/2009 09:27:00
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Against weaker teams we should play with the midfield of Lennon on the right, Modric behind the two strikers and Gio on the left with Palacios being the glue holding it all together and allowing them to do what they all do best...Terrorise defences! COYS
OnlyOneAaronLennon
18/08/2009 09:53:00
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Against weaker teams we should play with the midfield of Lennon on the right, Modric behind the two strikers and Gio on the left with Palacios being the glue holding it all together and allowing them to do what they all do best...Terrorise defences! COYS
OnlyOneAaronLennon
18/08/2009 09:53:00
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Have been reading posts on here for some time now as a guest and have decided to add my two pence worth ! Lifelong Spurs fan, get to about 10/12 games a year due to work commitments. Firstly I have concluded that over the last 10 years Levy has basically not been that concerned about the title. Happy with a top 6/7 finish, buy up and coming players cheap and sell 'em on at a profit. Embellish this with a cup or two and everyone's sort of happy. This philiosophy is at long last looking to change with the development of a solid squad and cover at all positions. For example we now have a combative holding midfielder (Palacios) in the Viera, Makele mould that all serious sides need. My view is that we should not expect too much more transfer activity and then only in January when Levy/Harry assess where we have got to by then. The squad has the ability to perform and perform well, what is needed is that performance on a consistent basis. To achieve this, in my opinion what is needed will be three signings of serious but proven quality. The three positions have been clearly identified and the 3 I would go for are Robben, Gudjonsen (sp?) and Jap Staam. As for the sell before you buy policy well frankly there comes the time when Harry will have to say to levy "Whaere do you want me to get this side" If Levy wants to go all the way he is going to have to bite the bullet, sign the cheque and balance the books 6-12 months later. If we assume the imbalance on transfers is say £10m then frankly if we can't stand that for 6 months we shouldnt be bothering.
Fredspur
18/08/2009 09:58:00
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Have been reading posts on here for some time now as a guest and have decided to add my two pence worth ! Lifelong Spurs fan, get to about 10/12 games a year due to work commitments. Firstly I have concluded that over the last 10 years Levy has basically not been that concerned about the title. Happy with a top 6/7 finish, buy up and coming players cheap and sell 'em on at a profit. Embellish this with a cup or two and everyone's sort of happy. This philiosophy is at long last looking to change with the development of a solid squad and cover at all positions. For example we now have a combative holding midfielder (Palacios) in the Viera, Makele mould that all serious sides need. My view is that we should not expect too much more transfer activity and then only in January when Levy/Harry assess where we have got to by then. The squad has the ability to perform and perform well, what is needed is that performance on a consistent basis. To achieve this, in my opinion what is needed will be three signings of serious but proven quality. The three positions have been clearly identified and the 3 I would go for are Robben, Gudjonsen (sp?) and Jap Staam. As for the sell before you buy policy well frankly there comes the time when Harry will have to say to levy "Whaere do you want me to get this side" If Levy wants to go all the way he is going to have to bite the bullet, sign the cheque and balance the books 6-12 months later. If we assume the imbalance on transfers is say £10m then frankly if we can't stand that for 6 months we shouldnt be bothering.
Fredspur
18/08/2009 09:58:00
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Gio isnt really that effective on the left OOAL, he's more suited to coming in off the right. However, Lennon could operate on the left in these lesser games you're talking about, although i'm sure how effective that would be. If GDS stays, it's vital that he get's some playing time, but for me, we cant take the chance on starting him against anyone because, in The Prem, 20th can beat 1st and every game is worth 3 points so I would be more comfortable introducing him with the result more or less confirmed. At first anyway, then if he plays well, a place in the odd starting line up could be a possibility.
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 09:59:00
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Gio isnt really that effective on the left OOAL, he's more suited to coming in off the right. However, Lennon could operate on the left in these lesser games you're talking about, although i'm sure how effective that would be. If GDS stays, it's vital that he get's some playing time, but for me, we cant take the chance on starting him against anyone because, in The Prem, 20th can beat 1st and every game is worth 3 points so I would be more comfortable introducing him with the result more or less confirmed. At first anyway, then if he plays well, a place in the odd starting line up could be a possibility.
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 09:59:00
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KSBC I seemed to have thought he played left but to be fair I have only ever seen highlights of him or the cup game against UTD that I can remember. He needs a few chances like you say with the result confirmed, playing alongside our full strength team not with our reserve side like the UTD game.
OnlyOneAaronLennon
18/08/2009 10:07:00
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KSBC I seemed to have thought he played left but to be fair I have only ever seen highlights of him or the cup game against UTD that I can remember. He needs a few chances like you say with the result confirmed, playing alongside our full strength team not with our reserve side like the UTD game.
OnlyOneAaronLennon
18/08/2009 10:07:00
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Fredspur, Jaap Stam???? you sure about that. Think he is well past sell by date
Lasse
18/08/2009 10:11:00
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Fredspur, Jaap Stam???? you sure about that. Think he is well past sell by date
Lasse
18/08/2009 10:11:00
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so what is gio's best position kierzo i ask because i can never figure it out and i didnt see much of his recent mexico games
jljyid
18/08/2009 10:39:00
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so what is gio's best position kierzo i ask because i can never figure it out and i didnt see much of his recent mexico games
jljyid
18/08/2009 10:39:00
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Gio's best position depends on what you want. I guess you could say the same about Lennon too. If you put them on the opposite side of their preferred foot, they will probably score more, but then again probably assist fewer. But Gio has a better shot than lennon, so many will say his best side is left cause his shot is so dangerous. Don't know what to say really, I guess his best position is striker :) And with Keane unable to be subbed, Defoe our first choice, Harry's love for Crouch and Pav's desperate try to get in the starting 11, I will give you 3% chance that Gio will be involved at all this season :(
NorwaYid
18/08/2009 11:06:00
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Gio's best position depends on what you want. I guess you could say the same about Lennon too. If you put them on the opposite side of their preferred foot, they will probably score more, but then again probably assist fewer. But Gio has a better shot than lennon, so many will say his best side is left cause his shot is so dangerous. Don't know what to say really, I guess his best position is striker :) And with Keane unable to be subbed, Defoe our first choice, Harry's love for Crouch and Pav's desperate try to get in the starting 11, I will give you 3% chance that Gio will be involved at all this season :(
NorwaYid
18/08/2009 11:06:00
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thanks norwaYid. i hope he does get some game time but i hear he has real attitude probs thats why barca let him go, if he brought them with him i suspect thats the reason he wont get any matches rather than his ability or competition from other players
jljyid
18/08/2009 11:18:00
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thanks norwaYid. i hope he does get some game time but i hear he has real attitude probs thats why barca let him go, if he brought them with him i suspect thats the reason he wont get any matches rather than his ability or competition from other players
jljyid
18/08/2009 11:18:00
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fredspur welcome to the debate and great read apart from jaap stam (6-8 years ago) and which gudjonsson are we talking about. but yes if we are happy just going for europa then we are fine but if we want to challange for the league and lets face why else are any club playing if its not to win then a MAJOR investment is needed on 3-4 truely world class players we should have never let arshavin get away when we already had pav, the same with huntelaar. there are some world class player surplus at real madrid and we should be trying to buy them and not stop when the price gets to 16.5m which seems to be our limit. get robben and vdv in sell jenas and bently and the defecit in money wouldn,t be that great and with the likes of hutton and prince and lets face it gio cos he isn,t ever going to get a chance we will with wages saved and sells probably be no different but levy hasn,t got those ambitions so it aint going to happen never mind we will just have to keep dreaming wont we COYS.
norwichspur
18/08/2009 11:39:00
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fredspur welcome to the debate and great read apart from jaap stam (6-8 years ago) and which gudjonsson are we talking about. but yes if we are happy just going for europa then we are fine but if we want to challange for the league and lets face why else are any club playing if its not to win then a MAJOR investment is needed on 3-4 truely world class players we should have never let arshavin get away when we already had pav, the same with huntelaar. there are some world class player surplus at real madrid and we should be trying to buy them and not stop when the price gets to 16.5m which seems to be our limit. get robben and vdv in sell jenas and bently and the defecit in money wouldn,t be that great and with the likes of hutton and prince and lets face it gio cos he isn,t ever going to get a chance we will with wages saved and sells probably be no different but levy hasn,t got those ambitions so it aint going to happen never mind we will just have to keep dreaming wont we COYS.
norwichspur
18/08/2009 11:39:00
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Aye, I'd agree with norwayyid re GDS. He's similar to lennon in that he has pace and can go past a player and it's his work in the final third that lets him down. However, one plus with GDS is that he has an awesome strike on him. This is why he is best suited to playing on the right, or in the hole behind a striker or 2. I'm sure if needed he could do some kind of job out on the left but he aint a great crosser and is far to direct to hold the ball up if isolated out there. It's quite frustrating as we have a player who SHOULD be a nailed on starter for the left wing but unfortunately due to certain aspects of the way he plays the game (and maybe a few things off things off the pitch) would prove ineffective in most cases.
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 11:54:00
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Aye, I'd agree with norwayyid re GDS. He's similar to lennon in that he has pace and can go past a player and it's his work in the final third that lets him down. However, one plus with GDS is that he has an awesome strike on him. This is why he is best suited to playing on the right, or in the hole behind a striker or 2. I'm sure if needed he could do some kind of job out on the left but he aint a great crosser and is far to direct to hold the ball up if isolated out there. It's quite frustrating as we have a player who SHOULD be a nailed on starter for the left wing but unfortunately due to certain aspects of the way he plays the game (and maybe a few things off things off the pitch) would prove ineffective in most cases.
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 11:54:00
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Gio should not be sold or let out on loan, he is a class player... fair enough if he was playing poorly but he's playing class,player of the CGC....every time he got the ball something happened... he must get at least one chance at spurs...it was a good article but WOODGATE to be sold???what the hell is that about...
kikihotspur
18/08/2009 11:55:00
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Gio should not be sold or let out on loan, he is a class player... fair enough if he was playing poorly but he's playing class,player of the CGC....every time he got the ball something happened... he must get at least one chance at spurs...it was a good article but WOODGATE to be sold???what the hell is that about...
kikihotspur
18/08/2009 11:55:00
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People saying "let's get van der Vaart... let's get Robben... let's get Sneijder...", without your Spurs heads on, please tell me why they would even consider coming to us at this stage?
Othello
18/08/2009 12:02:00
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Woodgate to be sold? I think I missed that!! I did nt really say that surely...
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 12:02:00
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People saying "let's get van der Vaart... let's get Robben... let's get Sneijder...", without your Spurs heads on, please tell me why they would even consider coming to us at this stage?
Othello
18/08/2009 12:02:00
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Woodgate to be sold? I think I missed that!! I did nt really say that surely...
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 12:02:00
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Woodgate to be sold? You don't work for the Daily Mail by any chance, Kikihotspur? lol
Othello
18/08/2009 12:34:00
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Woodgate to be sold? You don't work for the Daily Mail by any chance, Kikihotspur? lol
Othello
18/08/2009 12:34:00
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Crap. My comment should have read "It didnt really say that that" not "I did nt really say that". But then you all knew that anyway!! :P
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 12:44:00
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Crap. My comment should have read "It didnt really say that that" not "I did nt really say that". But then you all knew that anyway!! :P
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 12:44:00
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othello not saying they would but lets show the balls and try and if we stump up the asking ammount maybe these players will see we are serious in our ambitions and say yes but if we dont try then they def wont come all it takes is a phone call from levy a deep breath and some balls. if he isn,t prepared to take us forward then maybe its time to sell us on to someone who would and before all the but look what levy has done for us lovers on here, tell me truthly are you really happy to be fighting for 5-10 then if you are your as bad as he is dont tell me your not looking at man city at the moment and thinking if only that was us cos i know i want more and so do the rest of you.
norwichspur
18/08/2009 12:45:00
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othello not saying they would but lets show the balls and try and if we stump up the asking ammount maybe these players will see we are serious in our ambitions and say yes but if we dont try then they def wont come all it takes is a phone call from levy a deep breath and some balls. if he isn,t prepared to take us forward then maybe its time to sell us on to someone who would and before all the but look what levy has done for us lovers on here, tell me truthly are you really happy to be fighting for 5-10 then if you are your as bad as he is dont tell me your not looking at man city at the moment and thinking if only that was us cos i know i want more and so do the rest of you.
norwichspur
18/08/2009 12:45:00
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World Cup in June Othello!!
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 12:46:00
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World Cup in June Othello!!
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 12:46:00
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Norwichspur... remember Glenn Hoddle coming out and saying we placed a bid for Rivaldo, only to be turned down with a letter of thanks? The board showed balls then, and got turned down. The board we have are a little more realistic. That in no way doesn't mean they are not prepared to take us forward. There is a slight difference in going for unrealistic targets and having no ambition. On the final point you make, ask anyone on here and I'm sure they will tell you that I am in no way jealous of Man City's newfound wealth. We're doing things the proper way and we are not that far behind. If there wasn't too much knee-jerking from the fans and ultimately Levy, we would have achieved the holy grail of the top four under Martin Jol by now. But that's by the by. We have to start again. And going for targets that will not even consider us or for players that will only join us if we're willing to bankrupt ourselves to feed their pockets is not the way I like to see Spurs going "forward". If we have the stability, we will get the rewards. I'm happy that Harry kept the nucleus of the side the same, whilst everyone (and you all know who you are!) was all for "sell 12 players, bring in 15... sign all these World Cup winners because we are Spurs and everyone will want to play for us!! If they don't come, sack Harry Redknapp and get lost Levy!!". I knew that wouldn't work, as I'm sure most in the know didn't either. I would like success, but not at the expense of our future.
Othello
18/08/2009 13:06:00
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Norwichspur... remember Glenn Hoddle coming out and saying we placed a bid for Rivaldo, only to be turned down with a letter of thanks? The board showed balls then, and got turned down. The board we have are a little more realistic. That in no way doesn't mean they are not prepared to take us forward. There is a slight difference in going for unrealistic targets and having no ambition. On the final point you make, ask anyone on here and I'm sure they will tell you that I am in no way jealous of Man City's newfound wealth. We're doing things the proper way and we are not that far behind. If there wasn't too much knee-jerking from the fans and ultimately Levy, we would have achieved the holy grail of the top four under Martin Jol by now. But that's by the by. We have to start again. And going for targets that will not even consider us or for players that will only join us if we're willing to bankrupt ourselves to feed their pockets is not the way I like to see Spurs going "forward". If we have the stability, we will get the rewards. I'm happy that Harry kept the nucleus of the side the same, whilst everyone (and you all know who you are!) was all for "sell 12 players, bring in 15... sign all these World Cup winners because we are Spurs and everyone will want to play for us!! If they don't come, sack Harry Redknapp and get lost Levy!!". I knew that wouldn't work, as I'm sure most in the know didn't either. I would like success, but not at the expense of our future.
Othello
18/08/2009 13:06:00
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"We should have never let Arshavin get away.....same with Huntelaar" FFS give me strength!! Please please please will people stop saying that ***** - they didn't want to come to us!!
LizardSpur
18/08/2009 13:14:00
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Hear bloody hear, Othello. Amen to that.
LizardSpur
18/08/2009 13:14:00
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"We should have never let Arshavin get away.....same with Huntelaar" FFS give me strength!! Please please please will people stop saying that ***** - they didn't want to come to us!!
LizardSpur
18/08/2009 13:14:00
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Hear bloody hear, Othello. Amen to that.
LizardSpur
18/08/2009 13:14:00
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othello i,m as you can see not asking for wholesale changes and a new team every transfer window just a LITTLE bit more commitment and balls from the board. arshavin deal wouldn,t have bankrupted us nor would robben and vdv we must raise our wage structure to do this if we want to compete and yes i know that means others will want pay rises but if we aren,t prepared to do this then we are conceding that we aren,t prepared to do anything better than 5-10
norwichspur
18/08/2009 13:21:00
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othello i,m as you can see not asking for wholesale changes and a new team every transfer window just a LITTLE bit more commitment and balls from the board. arshavin deal wouldn,t have bankrupted us nor would robben and vdv we must raise our wage structure to do this if we want to compete and yes i know that means others will want pay rises but if we aren,t prepared to do this then we are conceding that we aren,t prepared to do anything better than 5-10
norwichspur
18/08/2009 13:21:00
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i think he's a really good player who can make something out of nothing. he is fast, clever, skillful and has a good shot. i think you can use him on the left at the end of games when their defence is tired and he will terrorise them and he can then grab a goal and kill the game off which we have had problems doing in the past.
arraza the yid
18/08/2009 13:24:00
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i think he's a really good player who can make something out of nothing. he is fast, clever, skillful and has a good shot. i think you can use him on the left at the end of games when their defence is tired and he will terrorise them and he can then grab a goal and kill the game off which we have had problems doing in the past.
arraza the yid
18/08/2009 13:24:00
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No disrespect to Hull, of course. They're a good team with committed fans.
Othello
18/08/2009 13:26:00
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No disrespect to Hull, of course. They're a good team with committed fans.
Othello
18/08/2009 13:26:00
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We were in for Arshavin, but Zenit didn't want to agree a price with us. A fee was sorted each time, but Zenit kept moving the goalposts each time, and Levy became miffed with it and called off negotiations. He only left for Arsenal as they put in one offer, Arshavin was *****ed off with Zenit and pretty much forced the move through. If we had gone in as late as Arsenal did instead of trying to do the deal early, he may be with us now. None of that was Levy's fault. As for raising the wage structure, who pays for that? Unless you wanna pay something like £80 for a cheap seat to watch us play someone like Hull, then it's never going to happen.
Othello
18/08/2009 13:26:00
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We were in for Arshavin, but Zenit didn't want to agree a price with us. A fee was sorted each time, but Zenit kept moving the goalposts each time, and Levy became miffed with it and called off negotiations. He only left for Arsenal as they put in one offer, Arshavin was *****ed off with Zenit and pretty much forced the move through. If we had gone in as late as Arsenal did instead of trying to do the deal early, he may be with us now. None of that was Levy's fault. As for raising the wage structure, who pays for that? Unless you wanna pay something like £80 for a cheap seat to watch us play someone like Hull, then it's never going to happen.
Othello
18/08/2009 13:26:00
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lizard huntelaar never said he didn,t want to come we didn,t either bid or bid enough for him arshavin was bit different cos zenit kept moving the posts or so the papers said and also as usual we wanted to put down a £10 deposit and then £5 a week thereafter. i know no buisnessman wants to lose money that would be stupid so maybe levy and the board aren,t quite big enough buissnessmen for us to challenge.
norwichspur
18/08/2009 13:34:00
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lizard huntelaar never said he didn,t want to come we didn,t either bid or bid enough for him arshavin was bit different cos zenit kept moving the posts or so the papers said and also as usual we wanted to put down a £10 deposit and then £5 a week thereafter. i know no buisnessman wants to lose money that would be stupid so maybe levy and the board aren,t quite big enough buissnessmen for us to challenge.
norwichspur
18/08/2009 13:34:00
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Which clubs, apart from Man City and Real Madrid, have £22million that they can just hand over these days?
Othello
18/08/2009 13:40:00
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Which clubs, apart from Man City and Real Madrid, have £22million that they can just hand over these days?
Othello
18/08/2009 13:40:00
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I think it's unfair to say we cant get top players and I dont think we need to raise the wage bill. Now i'm just speculating here, but if we sold Bentley and Bale, wouldnt that give us enough cash to buy Van Der Vaart AND afford his wages? He would make us a much stronger team, defensively and going forward. Obviously it's easier said than done but I wouldnt just write it off.
KierzoSBC
18/08/2009 13:42:00
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as i said othello arshavin was different and i haven,t checked but are chelsea or united or city charging £80 to see hull. i,m just saying that levy and the board have taken us as far they are prepared to go and its not going to be enough for the next step is it.
norwichspur
18/08/2009 13:42:00
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as i said othello arshavin was different and i haven,t checked but are chelsea or united or city charging £80 to see hull. i,m just saying that levy and the board have taken us as far they are prepared to go and its not going to be enough for the next step is it.
norwichspur
18/08/2009 13:42:00
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