UK time is: 21:27:51
Vital Login
Social Login

Choose your club

Other Sites

Network Navigation

Vital Partners

'If It's Football, It's Vital'

Was last night just what Spurs need?

Okay, losing 4-1 at home is never an ideal result, but should we consider it as a kick up the backside than a kick in the teeth?

Watching the game last night, the whole thing was a little subdued from players to a 2/3`s empty (or is it full) White Hart Lane. There simply wasn`t the excitement from the crowd and the players looked just what they probably were, either undercooked or fatigued from their travelling. Newquay it is next year then...

In truth it wasn`t a good or inspiring display, with more disappointing performances that ones to inspire, but we have to consider that regaining form and fitness is the intention and results mean little or nothing.

If we cast our minds back two years to our final pre season game at WHL and a 5-0 demolition of Roma. Talk on the way from the ground was all about what a brilliant manager we had and how brilliant a season lie ahead. The result was of course Ramos out after only eight games with the now famous two points...

I know that winning is a great habit to have and certainly losing and conceding four goals at home is poor, but if it refocus`s the players` minds and tempers fan expectation, it has to give more positives that negatives.

If we look for positives, I would instantly look towards Tom Huddlestone, who for me was excellent last night, calm and commanding in the middle and he looked to be the natural leader on the pitch in the second half when Keane and Dawson were removed.

Lennon was too often starved of decent ball, all too often supplied to feet instead of space, but on balance he looked sharp, similarly with Defoe. Also what about Gio? A bright performance and our only goal. Keep that up and we will all be very happy. Niko looked happy when played in a more central role, where he could have more influence and BAE looked good at left back, so all is not lost regardless of result, but the boys know they have to up the tempo and stop the silly mistakes which ultimately cost us the game, not a terrible performance that the result would indicate...

Use your social login to comment on front page articles. Login using you Facebook, Twitter, Google or LinkedIn accounts and have your say!

Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

The journalist

Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Friday July 30 2010

Time: 9:23AM

Your Comments

Hopefully this is a blessing in disguise, I didn't see the game but the result, and the margin of defeat, says it all. This against a team that finished 7th in La Liga. Although it was a friendly and nobody will have been killing themselves, and have not completed pre-season preparations, this result should be seen as a warning, that must be heeded. Our current squad is simply not competitive at this level, with our CL qualifier not far away. If we wish to at least consolidate our 4th position to ensure year on year CL qualification, we simply need more quality. In short this result should be a kick up the arse.
BAE was not good last night and Niko was bloody aweful! Well done Gio. I did think at times we looked alright but yes a bit slow, so a lose might be what they need. I would be very worried if we won all our friendly games, we need to lose one!
Now reported that we are offering Bentley, Keane and Jenas for Ashley Young, is this a realistic deal, will it improve us from a football point of view, or is it a financial management exercise, to reduce the wage bill. Jenas aside, who is a waste of space, will Young in, make up for Bentley & Keane out in terms of squad depth, I doubt it.
Not going to read too much into a run out but it is a bit dissapointing, Gio Gio Gio!!
Charlie should not play in the middle next season, he's so slow! It's such a shame as he's solid, stay at right back and play with Lennon. Bassong and Dawson started last year at Liverpool right? They both did a cracking job, reproduce that against citeh please. Where's Wilson?
Bentley is probably our best crosser of the ball.... so to say he provides nothing is completely inaccurate. He offers a different approach down the RW than Lennon so gives good options off the bench. I still dont think all this shout about Young.... I'd rather keep Bale LW over Young any day.... and that way we say paying over the odds!
Has anyone ever seen AYoung playing up front? I always thought he might make a good CF.
yeah, but i would rather them (Keane, Bentley) playing for anyone else, as both are on good wages, and provide nothing really. If we can replace them with better quality, then we must. Jenas is a lost cause, Rose is a better CM then Jenas.
i think we def need a striker who can hold the bal up because none of our current lot can, also think we need a top draw centreback cos we can't rely on king & woody is basically finished.
Woodgate should mutually agree to have his contract terminated - I was thinking the same about King at one point but least he plays (sometimes!) ha ha ha
Where was modric yesterday?
Hamstring injury nothing serious just picked up in yanky doodle land...
Im pretty sure that we will play better when the season starts, completely different starting XI and hopefully a better left back
ronwol, your right, lets judge after city game, these mean sweet FA. If we had played the whole game with the intensity we did in the early stages of the first halve it would of been us who won 4-1. And thats how were be playing by the time we face city. Its easy to say they outclassed us but they play that keep ball football that the spanish play, if it was a real match they wouldnt be able to deal with our intensity and speed, something that wasnt there last nite due to mass changes and tiredness!
topher, he must be injured, him, rose, obika and parrett have definatley got a future at spurs imo, hopefully they can stay patient
this was just a run out to get the fitness up, nothing more. yeah it wouldve been nice to get a result but this will have done us good. come August 14th in front of a packed WHL and a full strength team we'll see a totally different game. was impressed with Gio, Parrett, Hudd, Walker and Bale. BAE scared me a little with his casualness (which he usually gets away with). i think the next week we'll start seeing some movement with transfers then rool on City!
I was dreading coming on here today after last night. I expected it to be all doom and gloom, full of posts about how we're gonna get the same thing in the CL and all that. Last night was a schit scoreline but not a terrible performance. Like others have said it wasn't our first team and players were out of position too. These games count for nadda, Remember us going unbeaten in pre season and then having the worst start to a season ever. If we're gonna lose make it now. Some good tings came out of last nights game, Gio scored for one. COYS!!!!
and also our players must be shattered from the flight from america and the world cup players have only just come back, but in saying that i still think we need some players and we need to get them soonish instead of on the last day at about 11:30 in the evening.
arraza the yid
Ronwol, both city and united lost well agaisnt USA teams who were nowhere near as good as villareal, I noticed it but didnt think 4 one minute that they were goin to be weak next year, friendlies mean nothing
I was at the game last night and there were some very poor performances, but at same time some promise. Walker especially Gio, but needs to work a bit harder when we don't have the ball, Parrett looked good and wish he had come on to replace Jenas rathan than Rose. It still amazes me that people can watch a game and have very different opinions as to players performance, for me Naughton, Rose, Keane and especially BAE were very poor and thought Hutton was ok, no goals were directly down to him unlike BAE. Re Villa swop, can't see MON taking two injured players, but does any one else think we are going for Young as Levy won't sign 'arrys first choice Bellamy.
I agree that they are not important but not that they dont mean anything.Ask Fergie and Mancini to give an honest answer and they would want to win the games.Ask them if they want the players to play at 100% and they would obviously say no.Ask them is its bad to lose 4-1 at home to a team like Villareal and they would say it would be. Going to the US is a little different.Its a holiday.Playing at home to Villareal is not a holiday.Its not that important either,but losing 4-1 looks bad and feels bad.If most of us were honest we would say yes it feels bad.
Pre season friendlies don't usually give much of a guide to what is going to happen when the season starts. Of more concern is the fact Harry is saying its a game he didn't want to play, given the small crowd would we have really lost much money if we hadn't bothered ? I was baffled by our formation in the first half, two right footers on the left is never going to create much and how many times are managers going to try and play Keane and Defoe together ? When Rose came on for Jenas we had the opportunity to switch Kranjcar to the centre and play Rose on the left, instead Harry played Rose in the centre, why? We at least looked a little better balanced in the second half. However Crouch, as always, was starved of any decent service. Initially Dos Santos scored a great goal and I was hoping he would have a real impact, but for the rest of the half he ran everywhere at high speed without really creating anything. It was very noticeable that we had far more pace in the second half than Villareal but were much less effective.
i think Hull would be a good move for Bostock. we need to start loaning our players to top championship sides or decent prem sides (wigan, newcastle, west ham) so they can get their confidence up while at the same time gaining experience close to what they can expect at Spurs. would like to see parrett in the championship also. out of all of our young lads i've seen he's a special talent who we can't afford to let slip through the net
Yes JP... Parrett is looking good evrytime he plays no matter what team he plays in (England, Spurs 11) ... The guy is a bit special..
i'd like to see rose and Livermore kept at the club and blooded in home games to wigan and blackpool (no disrespect). one young player surrounded by the likes of modric, dawson, palacios and bale would settle them in quite smoothly IMO.
thats a loan for Parrett.
caulker has signed a new deal till 2013!
MJBSpur you can scroll down on iphone and ipad but its blo*dy difficult and takes a bit of practice.
jenas touched the ball 5 times in ten mins and gave it away every time...he has started every pre season game,what does HR see in him,i live for the day he is sold,no other signing interests me apart from him leaving....he should never wear the white shirt again.....
Yes it was just what spurs needed to be thumped pre-season to give us all a dose of realism- WE ARE NOT A TOP 4 SIDE but a side that made the Top 4. We have to prove it this season & believe Arry things we can go for the league.
i dont agree with this lark of how we shouldn't look too deeply into a pre-season friendly. sure, we can be optimistic about some of the young'ns showing promise, but from our strikers we saw the same frustrating patterns of play that we were cringing at for much of last season. i think we deserved our top 4 spot, we were on form most of the season. but the best teams win when they're off form. we unfortunately don't.
Well, I must say I was expecting more from the Spurs! They came out very lethargic! Krancar looked good at times. Defoe, Lennon looked out of rhythm, hope it comes back soon. Gio looked good, but I would like him to try and retrieve balls more often, like he does when playing for Mex. However, I think Harry should keep him, he is one of the few that has CL experince (scored a goal). I am biased because I am Mexican-American, but he is a good player with great skills.
Ginolaformanager/Chelmspur Thanks guys I'll give that a try!

Have Your Say

Log in...
with your social network     OR     with your Vital account

Recent Spurs Articles

Tottenham v Burnley: Team Line-Ups (Saturday December 20 2014)

Duo Seeking Burnley Victory (Friday December 19 2014)

Fixture Changes & Semi Final Details (Friday December 19 2014)

Video - Bentaleb's Moment In History (Friday December 19 2014)

Tottenham Hotspur vs. Burnley (Friday December 19 2014)

Spurs MotM v Newcastle? (League Cup) (Thursday December 18 2014)

Bentaleb Has A Night To Remember (Thursday December 18 2014)

Pochettino's Newcastle Verdict (Thursday December 18 2014)

Archived Spurs Articles

List All Vital Spurs Articles
Have your say
Click here to suggest an article
Click here to suggest a poll

Vital Members League (view all)

1. Highgatespur 360
2. Spursex 323
3. 80deg16minW 243
4. MAN ON! 232
5. Real Deal 214
6. Spurfect11 175
7. Big Chiv 173
8. Greavswasthegreatest 173
9. Jables 169
10. spurdon 158

League Results (view all)

Latest Results
Spurs 2 - 1 Burnley
Swansea 1 - 2 Spurs
Spurs 0 - 0 Crystal Palace
Chelsea 3 - 0 Spurs
Spurs 2 - 1 Everton
Hull City 1 - 2 Spurs

League Table (view table)

Team P W D L GD Pts
3. Man Utd 17 9 5 3 12 32
4. West Ham 17 9 4 4 10 31
5. Southampton 17 9 2 6 15 29
6. Spurs 17 8 3 6 -1 27
7. Arsenal 16 7 5 4 9 26
8. Swansea 17 7 4 6 3 25
9. Newcastle 16 6 5 5 -4 23

Breaking League News

Wholesale Team Changes Pay Off For Monk
Swansea : 20/12/2014 21:23:00
Awesome Austin Blitzes Baggies
Q.P.R. : 20/12/2014 21:03:00
Bruce - We Weren't Good Enough Against Swansea
Hull City : 20/12/2014 20:53:00
Irvine - Penalty Call Changed The Game
WBA : 20/12/2014 20:44:00
Pelle - Praise To The Whole Team
Southampton : 20/12/2014 20:35:00

Current Site Poll (view all polls)

Spurs MOTM against Newcastle?
Suggested By:  Vital Spurs
Vorm 9%
Chiriches 2%
Fazio 5%
Vertonghen 1%
Rose 1%
Stambouli 10%
Bentaleb 14%
Townsend 2%
Eriksen 44%
Chadli 1%
Kane 6%
Dembele 1%
Soldado 2%
Capoue 2%