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Has our midfield created our striking problems?

Has our midfield created our striking problems?

Looking at our chances for next season and the depth of our squad makes you question what went wrong last season, and why did everyone have such a downer on the team`s performance last time out?

Our revolving defensive issues and list of injuries in the early part of the season was somewhat of a nightmare for the stability of the team to get us started, and this can't have been helped by the huge amount of pre-season friendlies and CL early start to the season that we had. (Suspect something to do with Levy's money spinning road show in US before CL?) Never the less, looking at our chances last year and squad compared to the rest of our rivals it would suggest that with the likes of Modric, Bale, Huddlestone, Pienaar, Kranjcar, Jenas, Lennon, Sandro, Rose, Townsend, O`Hara, Bentley, Dos Santos and Van der Vaart might have created the problem for Harry last time out?

We have the best midfield squad in the Premiership, and Harry didn't know what to do with them all except drop a striker? It was the first time in a good few years that our strike force hadn't clocked around 100 goals between them, but we generally look stronger defensively. The team reminds me of Chelski a few years back with the appearance of Drogba, and the strong 5 in midfield.

I think that strong front man who can push defenders around will be our defining difference next time out. (Last season unfortunately this was Crouchie?) V.Vaart was our Lamps, Sandro = Makalele, and Modric = Deco, Hudd's = Essien, and even the inconsistent Lennon = Cole?

I'm not so sure that Aguero would do the job, but a strong physical and intelligent player. Possibly a Llorente, Hulk, Eto, Milito or even Drogba himself would make us contenders for a top three rather than a top five. I don't enjoy comparing us to Chelski by the way, but do see striking similarities to that team that became very successful in our current squad. Hopefully the signing of our marquee, tough nut and intelligent striker, along with rotating the squad will bring a smile back to our faces next time out!

Written by aspurnorthernboy



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Writer:aspurnorthernboy
Date:Thursday June 23 2011
Time: 2:00PM

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Good question yes there is a problem MF and ST...
Block D Spurs
23/06/2011 14:04:00
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first !
jolmember
23/06/2011 14:04:00
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seems to me MF has been instructed to play the wide ball... not enough through balls to strikers run onto... only one is pav, who does link with modders well. Harry has to wake up to tactical and movements... and Defoe to remain onside FFS!!!
Block D Spurs
23/06/2011 14:07:00
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There are many strikers who would just love to play in a team with Lennon, Modders, Bale, VDV, Hudd etc. You are correct that a strong aerial presence (i.e. not Crouch) up front would have capitalised & scored plenty last year
Windlespur
23/06/2011 14:09:00
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The midfield isn't the problem, harry's lack af ability in formations and squad rotation is the problem. The fact of the matter is that at home we should be playing two strikers and not five midfielders, especially against so many of the smaller teams we dropped points against. Oh and get rid of Ferdinand - he was rubbish for us as a player and he's now doing the double as a "coach".
jolmember
23/06/2011 14:09:00
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100 goals a season? The whole team averages only about 65 in the league.
bish-10
23/06/2011 14:10:00
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aspurnorthernboy - Cheers for the article. I think what you're getting at is that our strikers scored less goals because didnt have 2 of them on the pitch. It's an fair point and it's entirely possible that was the case. However, your point is lost somewhere among the mad comparisons with Chelsea, claiming that our strikers usually score 100 (I dont belive I've ever seen a Spurs strikeforce score 100 goals between them), claiming that Harry didnt know what do with all of our midfielders (although you might gain a few fans for saying that, it is effectively nonsense) and the idea that what really caused the slump was because Drogba (i.e. the big tall bossy guy) wasnt playing for us. I absolutely agree that what we need next season is a huge front man to push opposing defenders around. In the mould of the likes of Drogba or a young Adriano.
KierzoSBC
23/06/2011 14:16:00
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No. If a striker does not score that is his problem. Our strikers had the chances they didn't put them away, it is as simple as that. You and many others are trying to read too much into this.
Med1
23/06/2011 14:17:00
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4 4 2 is pretty much what got us to the champions league in the prem playing a 4 4 1 1 system does not really work with what we had with rafa in the side. I may get slated for this but would like to see bale playing on the left with rafa. Bale at left back making big runs with rafa shipping the ball to him on the overlap at full pace. The nice thing about Rafa is aswell as that he has a great pass on him.
yidburb08
23/06/2011 14:17:00
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the way the team was set-up didn't help the strikers none of whom are a lone man striker...was that the fault of midfield or the manager?
shedboy2
23/06/2011 14:20:00
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How does a midfield or formation prevent you from kicking the ball in the net. There was a statistic brought up by the BBC when Luka said he wanted to leave. Modric has created 66 goal-scoring chances this season, one less than VDV who has created 67 chances. That's 133 opportunities to score a goal created by two players, now that doesn't even include Bale and Lennon who are sure to have an oil tanker full of those numbers too. We have also broken premier league records with our ability to take sooo many shots and fail to score. Nowhere in the stats does it suggest, 'If Harry played 4-4-2 those chances would become goals'. Admittedly not all those chances are created for the strikers but the games against Blackpool, West Ham and West Brom had more than enough chances for the strikers to score from 6 yards out and they didn't. The strikers incompetencies are due to the strikers, not whether they have another striker stood next to them or not.
Markoose16
23/06/2011 14:21:00
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we keep mentioning the drogbas and the others... now Villas-Boas has arrived at Chelski.. he wil bring one of the strikers with him im guessing.. why dont we sign ANELKA... hes an all round better striker than most and can play the lone striker role... his record over the past few years has showed it..
spurscy
23/06/2011 14:23:00
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The problem of goals last season was not about midfield. There were hundreds of chances created that went unscored because the strikers were simply not putting the ball in the net. Chance after chance went begging for someone to poke the ball in the goal. Pav, Crouch and Defoe - none of them can hold the ball up and keep posession - and how often do they get the ball and simply and easily give it away to the opposition. Not good enough, simple as that!
michael.thfc
23/06/2011 14:25:00
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with u on that YIDBUR.. starting 11 for next season.. Gomez-Walker-Gallas/King-Dawson/Cahill-Bale-VDV-MOdders-Hudd-Lennon-Anelka-Leandro/Hulk
spurscy
23/06/2011 14:26:00
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Markoose16, great response. You can float around all the stats and maths you want - of course the strikers will score more if we play two vs. one. But that is irrelevant. I SAW THE GAMES and our strikers were bad this year. Pav's an enigma, and Defoe and Crouch had poor seasons (especially Defoe, who was either injured or awful all year). For half the seasons were were putting the opponents under heavy pressure, literally for 70-80 minutes of a game, and not getting goals (or getting an early one, shipping a bad goal, and then creating 57 chances and no goals for the rest of the game). Sorry, I'll take Modric, Lennon, Bale, VDV, Huddlestone, and Sandro as my midfield any day. If Pav, Defoe, and Crouch are still our strikers on 1 Sept., I am going to struggle to get through the games without throwing a pint glass. Case closed.
SpursGator
23/06/2011 14:33:00
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Makes sense... Not much to answer to tho... Agree!! Trim midfield and upgrade the strikers options.... You've solved it!! lol
YidoDave
23/06/2011 14:36:00
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Just to add I agree with the last two paragraphs in the article ASNB. I also see similarities between us and a few other teams. A 4-2-3-1 (which is pretty much a 4-4-1-1 anyway) would suit us well and to be honest, would be easier to implement if Modric left. i.e. Gomes; Walker, Daws, Gallas, BAE; Sandro, Hudd; Lennon, VDV, Bale; Super-awesome world-class striker. Sandro winning the ball like Makelele, Hudd with similar passing range to Xabi Alonso, VDV like Gerrard/Lampard etc. We just need that striker.
Markoose16
23/06/2011 14:39:00
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Spurscy- wheres Sandro in that team you mentioned. Him and modders should be automatic starters.
01tottenham
23/06/2011 14:43:00
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aguero Llorente, Hulk, Eto, Milito or even Drogba?? you might as well add Messi and Ronaldo to that list cos we have as much chance of getting them as this lot.Seriously i love the optimism of our fans in getting the best but im afraid it will more than likely be an Odemwingie ,Forlan or Gyan.The "world class players" we have ,Modric,Bale,VDV at a push were either unproven when they joined us or came as a last resort to get games,We are not going to attract the top top players so have to settle for a hungry young guy wanting to prove himself,personally i would go all out to get Sturridge he shows a great work ethic and knows where the goal is.
rustyruss67
23/06/2011 14:50:00
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Spursgator - you are right about that midfield - Bale/Lennon on the wings, Sandro/Hudd dominating the centre and Modric/VDV floating around behind the striker - fecking awesome midfield and there is no equal in the PL! Its unbelieveable when Harry comes out with stuff that we can't compete when we have players like that! Add to that the excellent BAE and Walker as fullbacks and Gallas/Daws at CB we are hardly far off! If Levy could just push the boat out for 1 world class, fast, strong, goal-scoring centre forward in the Drogba mould we should, on paper, be pushing for the title!
StillRickyVilla
23/06/2011 14:51:00
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Dare I question the problem being vdv this season? We brought in a player that did not fit our system, and he is the real reason we had to play 1 up front.
Matty J
23/06/2011 14:52:00
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I do wonder whether our striking problems last season had a lot to do with trying to accomodate VDV into the team. Great player that he is, maybe getting him so late didn't give H much of a chance to come up with a formation that worked properly, leaving him to experiment as we went along. Unfortunately, for me, the VDVCrouch pairing seemed to work too quickly, possibly lulling H into a false sense of security & it didn't take teams too long to work out how to deal with it. Once that happened, the rot had set in & continuity of the strike force was lost.
Spuds-U-like
23/06/2011 14:55:00
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Med1 - Probably the most sense I've seen on this site for many a year.
bish-10
23/06/2011 14:59:00
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1st the problem with our formation last year was it was always 4 4 1 1 thats never really going to work because it isolates the stiker 2 often and this is where i disagree with markoose we need to play 4 3 3 which is the barcelona and chelsea way. the way we played was bale and lennon were glued to their wing constantly attacking the full back, if the formation is to be succesful they need to be coming inside a lot more supporting the lone striker up front very similar to how barcelona deploy their 4 3 3
spurticus87
23/06/2011 15:00:00
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I think our strikers are a bit 1-dimensional and none of them seem to be able to play up top alone. They seem to rely on partnerships like the Crouch/Defoe partnership for instance. And we can't rely on Harry to sort it out, he'll just say 'go out and play'. We are so close its untrue - one great striker in front of that midfield is all we need. We should push the boat out this time as its such a crucial transfer window, and it really is the last piece in the jigsaw. However penny-pinching Levy is more likely to get 49-goal a season Clive Allen off the bench like when he played in front of Waddle/Hoddle/Ardiles/Hodge/Allen!
StillRickyVilla
23/06/2011 15:03:00
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Last summer everyone was pining for 5-4-1. I.e ONE striker. So when we get less goals from not playing 2 strikers, these same people are moaning! You asked for it. If you hadn't noticed, Lampard plays midfield, and Van der Vaart never played centre midfield for us - he was mostly a forward - in a similar position that Rooney was playing last season. So in reality you should not count most of Vdv's goals as midfield goals (he did score some from the right of midfield). But Vdv did create many issues, as well as he did solve many.
TonyRich
23/06/2011 15:05:00
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*clap* *clap* *clap* TonyRich - You the man!!
KierzoSBC
23/06/2011 15:08:00
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Lunacy to suggest that HR was at fault for lack of goals or midfield for that matter. I watched over 80% of our games and I would need a calculator to count the number of chances Defoe/Pav/Crouch absolutely fluffed or outright missed or weren't in position to tap in a cross or head one in. They had absolutely no anticipation and on many occasions couldn't keep up with Bale on the wing to get to a cross. How many through balls was Defoe offsides on. In one game alone he was offsides 4 times on through passes. For goodness sakes does he not have any peripheral vision????
jvd
23/06/2011 15:09:00
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i agree to an extent tonyrich but we were also pinning for a striker 2 if you told us the 1 up front would have been crouch all season i may have topped myself
spurticus87
23/06/2011 15:11:00
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Adebayor?
Fumper27
23/06/2011 15:22:00
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I disagree. I believe our problem is in Midfield. Sorry but too lightweight and defense too easily exposed. This is usually evident especially away from home where we are easily pushed around and technical teams give us the runaround. Until we sort it out, we will always be a hovering below the very best.
freddya
23/06/2011 15:32:00
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...I sometimes think we could have done better playing 4-4-2 with taarabt and kranjcar up front, what I would have liked but never know ...hope we rotate use all 25 squad expecting to see 4-4-1-1 or lennon dropped to accomodate rafa vdv hmm ? my picks would be hulk, adebeyor and leandro to lead line next campaign c`mon!
outlaws
23/06/2011 15:34:00
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true jvd. if we attack down the middle defoe will end the move by being offside, down the wings and the strikers fluff the chances or simply don't get in the right positions. AFter the first couple of months into last season i saw a stat that bale had delivered more good crosses into the box then any other PL player up to that point - it was a very high number but can't remember what. how many of these had been converted by our strike force? none. I won't blame harry for how bad they were, but will blame him if i see crouch or defore starting as the lone stiker with VDV. it doesn't work so change it. if harry is so stubborn that he wants to keep defoe and crouch then sell VDV, otherwise bring in the new blood. it doesn't have to be a superstar signing, he just needs the right physical attributes, speed, strength and height. otherwise, spurticus87 is right, bale and lennon need to move in more, preferably after beating their man
Guernman
23/06/2011 15:37:00
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freddya - "I believe our problem is in Midfield. Sorry but too lightweight and defense too easily exposed" Completely disagree with that. If this was the case...why then did we have a better first half of the season with a less defensive Huddlestone playing the holding role than the 2nd half of the season with the more defensive Sandro playing the defensive role?
KierzoSBC
23/06/2011 15:41:00
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freddya im going to assume you don't rate our strikerforce because if you do then i firmly believe that you've stumbled onto vitalfootball in your 30 minutes weekly internet usage allowed for good behaviour in a residence for the criminally insane, so you don't rate our midfield and believe our defence is too easily expossed? so what your basically saying is our entire team is *****e?? thanks for that i feel so much better about the up and coming season lol
spurticus87
23/06/2011 15:41:00
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outlaws - "I sometimes think we could have done better playing 4-4-2 with taarabt and kranjcar up front" Jebus mate, you need to lay off the glue! What happen to your crazy, no frills, straight to point posts? I loved them!! lol
KierzoSBC
23/06/2011 15:43:00
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The main reasons for our striking problems last season were primary the incapability of our strikers to score (non of them is a player who uses his brains to score and has a winner's mentality) and secondly the lack of a sufficient number of assists. When the so called (by the mass) best player of the team who is responsible in the midfield to create such assists has produced only 2 in 38 PL games (see http://soccernet.espn.go.com/team?id=367&cc=5739), then you can't ask for more. Only the individual performance of Bale and VDV in a number of games has rescue Spurs last season. The end product of the other players of the squad was insufficient.
Ioan X
23/06/2011 15:47:00
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I still believe that Huddlestone under achieves. I want to see a ball winner/stopper who can give the ball to creative players. Too many times opponents breeze past the midfield. I would give Defoe another season as he has pace. Crouch is a bench player for when something different needs to be done. I would go for Van Nistleroy is he still has any pace left as he know where the goal is.
woodhall
23/06/2011 15:52:00
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OUR so called strikers have created their own problems .Harry hasn`t helped by being so undecided on which ones to play .Harry "but i can`t drop Crouch" until he was left with no choice & left it too late .Should have played Pav more & Crouch less .Who do you blame for Crouch being so competent ? Crouch & Harry .Top strikers would love the service our strikers get but with Defoe being useless ,crouch being incompetent & Pav being inconsistent they only have themselves to blame for their own critics.Keane isn`t even worth mentioning but as harry spent nearly £40 million on Keane crouch & Defoe he`s the one most to blame .World class midfield bought by Commoli & Levy with average strikers bought Harry ? .Harry is the most to blame for not buying good enough even though £40 million was enough money to spend on getting it right .Players can`t pick themselves or buy themselves so it`s the person who does that who should be criticised .4 strikers & clearly the best one not bought by harry ,says it all for me .
big cockeral
23/06/2011 15:57:00
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keep pav. Sell the rest. Sorry to repeat but please no more midfielders!
Matty J
23/06/2011 15:57:00
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Crouch being so incompetent .Competent & Crouch don`t go together in the same sentence ever
big cockeral
23/06/2011 15:58:00
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Markoose pretty spot on fella. Our Midfield created well in excess of 200 opportunities (half we're created by Bale) now even a 1 in 4 Striker would've been nice ! 2MP did a job last season but it wasn't the right job. Now HAD he scored as well as setting VDV up so much then yes he would've. But sadly he didn't & we dropped far too many points. Also Gomes (despite our SEVERE lack of goals) literally threw away 15pts all on his own, that's not to mention the confidence it gave ANY opposition. No matter if we out classed any1 they always knew they had a chance, sk why not try. Often they did .& Gomes obliged ! So frustrating hey. With Sandro, Modric, VDV , Bale & Lennon we have the BEST MF in the League ALL we need is 2 Strikers good enough to hold their own up top. VDV & Bale will easily provide 10+ each, Lennon is capable of 10 if he believes in himself & STOPS playing how Crappello wants him too. Both Sandro & Modric have a fair few to offer in the goal scoring dept. Let's hope we sigh Damiao & Forlan. Both are realistic & affordable options also 1s starting & the others finishing his career. The perfect blend & that leave JD & Pav, what a lovely balanced Attack to match the rest of the Team. COYS
Tot-Nam Vet
23/06/2011 16:02:00
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Ioan x how on earth is modders meant to play crouch in? the guy has no strength or pace, im going to put it very simply to everyone on the debate peter crouch is in my opinion without one shadow of a doubt in my mind one of, if not the worst footballer ever to grace the premier league let alone spurs. he has no pace, no strength, no ariel ability he has the coordination of a parapalegic mongoose, the shot of a 6 yr old girl (i apologise to any 6 yr old girls i may offend who do strike the ball harder that crouch) he completely destroys the way in which we play the game and turns us into a route one long ball team! don't ask me why but i believe dawson has ocd becuase every time he see's crouch its like he is compelled to hoof it aimlessley at him! he can't tackle i actually can't find a single possitive to say about him he is useless in every aspect and dimension of the word!!!!!! and yet even after 1 goal in 23 games harry insists on starting him and when people try to buy him off us harry insists he is not for sale and i don't want to hear about him being an option in europe because one hatrick against a team the calibre of young boys does not make you a good option......and that game against ac milan ive said it before ill say it again the amount of times we lobbed the ball into him we never once threatened the goal not once if it wasn't for gomes heroics and lennons dazzlingg run set of by a brilliant pass from modders we would have lost the game after dominating it!!! to sum it up nicely if crouch plays we will fail because there are only so many times the rest of the team can make up for incompetance he must never play in a white shirt again
spurticus87
23/06/2011 16:04:00
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That actually made me laugh spurticus. Poor old crouch gets all the stick.
SpursOne2
23/06/2011 16:09:00
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cheers spursone2 he actually comes across as a nice chap i just cant tolerate watching him play for us anymore
spurticus87
23/06/2011 16:12:00
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...lol There it is again!! hehe Sorry mate.
KierzoSBC
23/06/2011 16:13:00
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BC - That's twoce in two posts that you've pit Crouch and competant together in the same sentance!! lol
KierzoSBC
23/06/2011 16:13:00
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van der Vaart should be used at particular times. Unfortunately Real Madrid had the same problem, couldn't quite squeeze him in. For me we have to judge van der Vaart like he was another striker, because he's taking the position of a striker up. He started well, but I think he only scored one or two goals from intricate build up play, the rest came from Crouch nod downs (which after a few weeks died down) or from the penalty spot. I like van der Vaart and he's put in some genuinely good performances, but I don't think we should struggle to fit him into the side. He either has to slot in nicely or not at all. Of course I'm sure he'd be aided by playing up front with someone that has a shred of ability. Wouldn't mind signing a striker (like Gervinho, duhhhh) who has the ability to play as a winger, too. Chelsea, when they've been successful, have had goals from a supporting striker (Lampard), their centre forward (Drogba) and their wingers chipping in, whether it be Anelka, Kalou, Cole, Robben, Malouda.
bernio3000
23/06/2011 16:15:00
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Gomes did not throw away 15 points. He saves more than most and although he had a couple if howlers he saved 3 penalties and made saves most games that guys like Friedel just don't stop. All is confirmed in the stats. Crouch who I am loathe to defend was doing as instructed. the system was the problem. We have a team built for 4-4-2 and we played 4-5-1. everything catered towards VDV and hid goals per minutes scored was not even better than Pav's. The fix is the same as it has been for 3 consecutive windows, we need a young top CB and 2 top strikers. Harry felt last summer that our strikers were better than what was out there. He was wrong. He then exacerbated the situation to playing a style that suits none of them. Sure get Forlan on his last big contract. It's what Harry has wanted all along. It'll be fun watching him and VDV dropping all the way back with no one on top. Bale and Lennon can just do it all themselves. Suarez not good enough but Forlan is. Someone is taking too many happy pills. COYS
peterballb
23/06/2011 16:19:00
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Last season the team looked so so predictable. wings wings wings and wings. Lets see what happens this time around
ThaiSpursman
23/06/2011 16:24:00
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harry is the problem....no rotation or differant ideas...i also get the feeling he doesnt really give much of a ****, we shud have got villas boas in there straight away
andyido
23/06/2011 16:24:00
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Gomes saved 3 penalties. I'm willing to assume he gave away at least one of them. As for making saves other keepers don't make, it's such BS, and it's one of those things that people say to pave over the cracks. Friedel has made unbelievable saves this season. I wouldn't have necessarily signed him because of his age, but I hate it when people make out that no other keeper can do what Gomes does. Gomes has made 5,6,7 high profile errors, and remember that doesn't take into account the errors he gets away with, parrying comfortable shots into danger, missing crosses etc. He gets the fundamentals wrong on a regular basis. No excuse for that.
bernio3000
23/06/2011 16:37:00
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Firts time poster here so bare with me. sell crouch, defoe and keane buy a quality striker and give super pav a chance to play more than a bit part off the bench role at least the guy scores when he gets on and if funds allow a younger striker possibly sturridge.
gavspur67
23/06/2011 16:39:00
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Perhaps if we just became proficient at free kicks and corners we'd be in the CL and looking forward to just replacing Keane. But then that would take lots of practice and we have no time fir that. COYS
peterballb
23/06/2011 16:42:00
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Kierzo that`s why i wrote it ,i realised my error .Crouch Competent ? my worst typing error ever .Couldn`t be further from the truth
big cockeral
23/06/2011 16:44:00
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Bernio, we'll see this season, won't we? Stats say otherwise. COYS
peterballb
23/06/2011 16:45:00
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We are a team of loose fundamentals. Gomes fits in perfectly with that. COYS
peterballb
23/06/2011 16:47:00
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Let's take our 2010-2011 season games first, How many clean sheets did we keep last season? How many times did the visiting goalkeeper, go away as man of the match? Clean sheets from 38 prem league games; we had a total of 8 clean sheets, from that 4 finished 0-0 Man City/Utd; West Ham; Wigan; 4 wins two of them we finished the game with ten men; in the remaining 30 games we conceeded goals in every game; out of 30 only 4 games did we not score, So is the problem the strikers or is the real problem, our defensive play; Object number one is to stop them scoring vs XYZ, then if we can nick a goal or two, job done. If and a big IF, we go through the season, any season with 38 1-0 wins, i would be very happy, more chance of winning the lottery, we can score, but we also conceed; The Answer is simple or NOT, we have to out score the opposition in pretty much every game. So until we stop leaking goals, will the results go more in our favour. IMO
spu 4 life
23/06/2011 16:49:00
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Welcome gavspur67, I don't think Pav necessarily needs more time on the pitch, I think the amount of time he got on the pitch with 10 league goals was decent. If that was combined with the main striker (whoever we hopefully sign) and they could get 20 league goals, plus another 10-15 from van der Vaart, plus a youngster chipping in with 5 or so then we're talking! At the minute we don't have the combination of ability and hunger up front. We don't have a youngster to come on and throw caution to the wind, someone who really wants to grow as a player. We have a bunch of guys 28 and over, very set in their ways and very happy with their contributions.
bernio3000
23/06/2011 16:51:00
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Just heard we have lost the juducial review for the OS,chapter over now lets seriously look at where we go from here
rustyruss67
23/06/2011 16:52:00
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our application for a judicial review on the OS has been denied. looks like DL will have to concentrate on the NDP or other options available to us.
jesusthedevil
23/06/2011 16:53:00
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I pay very little attention to stats if I'm honest peter, I look at football as an art rather than a science. As for being a team of loose fundamentals, absolutely correct, which is why we're not happy with our misfiring strikers, or the fact that we're rubbish at set pieces.
bernio3000
23/06/2011 16:55:00
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crouch wouldn't play football if he's shorter. - FACT
what_sux
23/06/2011 16:55:00
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im just loving some of the comments on here today spu4life has come up to the solution of all our problems and it was o so simple lol all we have to do is score more goals than they do its genius.......if only harry had thought of that
spurticus87
23/06/2011 16:56:00
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On the back of my post, Freidel replacing Gomes, should be a plus, Walker in at RB, will also be a plus, if we could sign Gary Cahill another plus, the defence needs improving, but i have to agree on many counts, we need a x two class forwards bringing in, Sandro will be ready for the start, i hope for the coming season, we have to stop conceeding goals.
spu 4 life
23/06/2011 16:57:00
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and if we go the entire season without conceeding a goal and winning every game you'd be happy, i'd be delighted mate lol ;)
spurticus87
23/06/2011 16:58:00
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what_sux, absolutely, I don't like it when pundits say "Crouch's technique is decent for a big man". That's all well and good, Stevie Wonder might be a great driver as far as blind people go, but like ***** would I ask him for a lift.
bernio3000
23/06/2011 16:59:00
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spurticus87 - got it in one, the defence is $hi7 and so our the strikers, in fact the whole set up at times is $hi7..........How do we go forward? because that's pretty much what our game plan is based on, all out attack, Arry's view is that simple, lol...we have to score more than they do, that's his game plan and always will be, 4-3 or 3-4, not the system 4-4-2 or 4-4-1-1, many times last season we had points in the bag, but still we gallop forward, like headless chickens; why has he never ever gone and make changes to hold onto what we have, by going with 3 CB's, Push the two FB onto the wide players and have two sitting in front of the 3 CB's? Take the pi$$ all you like, does it bother me, NO...only i can see it why can't he?
spu 4 life
23/06/2011 17:05:00
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Bernio, I do both. In my experience over many years and many sports it is rare that when all the stats are looked at (not cherry picking) they reflect what I see on the field of play. Some players defy stats and fundamentals, but it is rare. Grobelaar was very hard on the eyes and hardly without his moments of madness, but he was a great shot stopper. Liverpool just got good solid defenders and played them in front of him. If King and Gallas had played 20 games together last season we'd be in the CL. We need a stable defense pairing and that's not Dawson and Gallas because both are right sided players. We need a solid left sided CB to play whenever King cannot. COYS
peterballb
23/06/2011 17:08:00
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OS Plans busted - http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/8594692/London-2012-Olympics-Tottenham-and-Leyton-Orient-lose-challenge-to-West-Ham-stadium-move.html
sydqcb5
23/06/2011 17:09:00
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peter, we can try sakho from psg, young international player and captain of club. good defender with strong physical presence, left footed centre back, but can play left back when needed.
what_sux
23/06/2011 17:11:00
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peter, but could you not see the knock on effect of Gomes' errors? Our centre backs throw themselves in front of attacking players like they're protecting their loved ones. They are shaky because they don't trust who they have behind them, and it leads to more goals being conceded. I think you're underestimating how much of a good shot stopper Friedel is, or perhaps overestimating how much better a shot stopper Gomes is. I think Gomes edges him, but in terms of presence, keeping a calm head and reassuring his defence, Friedel wins hands down for me.
bernio3000
23/06/2011 17:23:00
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Spu4life, that was epitomized in the two matches against City. Mancini set his team up not to lose. Harry set us up to go all out. They got 4 of 6 points playing not to lose and we got 1 trying to win. Teams that park the bus do the same. We have no plan to break them down. It's like tic-tac-toe. Play to not lose and you won't but you may win. Play all out and you just might make a mistake that costs you the game. Mancini learned from his mistake from the previous year. Harry didn't. ManU are hard to beat because Fergie plays not to lose while believing his guys and his subs will have that little bit extra to get the win. Ancelotti and Wenger just played their own style and don't worry so much about the opposition. They believe they will win because they are better. That's why we succeeded. They didn't try to stop us. ManU never looked like they thought we would score because they had it covered. Chelsea now have a manager who prepares every bit as much as Jose. They will still attack, but not conceding and thwarting the plan of the opponent will be the main focus now. I believe City, ManU and Chelsea will now start to open a chasm between them and the rest. Arsenal is now who we must overtake while making sure that Liverpool don't go past us. COYS
peterballb
23/06/2011 17:25:00
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I agree with your comment spurticus87. I just wanted Modric to produce a better end product specially what assists concerns. Also he has to improve his shooting ability. It is a matter of extra special training. He has played much better towards the end of the competition. But as we can see there are a number of issues associated with the scoring problem. I believe that we need a couple of new strikers (Leandro etc) and a midfielder with a leader's capacity and able to produce a number of assists and if possible to score a number of goals each season (specially from set pieces).
Ioan X
23/06/2011 17:33:00
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i believe %100 if we were to go all out for eto'o and give him a £15million signing on fee to compensate for lost wages aswell as bringing in that left sided regular center back your talking about (even though we have bassong and i'd take him over dawson every day of the week but harry doesn't like him so tough) we could challenge for the league let alone the last cl spot and the increased shirt sales from eto'o aswell as increased prize money he would pay for himself, i believe we have been very well run and sensible in our approach but now is the time to gamble and eto'o would be the man to gamble on, imagine the pace we would have on the counter with eto'o lennon and bale. it would strike fear into any team in the world
spurticus87
23/06/2011 17:37:00
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