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Rossi and Llorente back on our list?

Rossi and Llorente back on our list?

After it was confirmed that Barcelona won`t make a move to sign Giuseppe Rossi, Spurs are straight away linked with trying to sign him.

Despite failing to get the striker in January, Spurs might be tempted to try again, should they receive any encouragement from the player and his agent, but I still wonder of this will be another disappointment as the player might either prefer to move elsewhere, with Italy being a previously stated option or he might decide to stay where he is for a season in the hope that Barca call again next season, when they have more money to spend.

Perhaps with Llorente, it will be down to whether the player pushes for a move, because the indications are that Bilbao don`t have to sell due to financial restrictions, but have they promised the player a move in the past? Initially there were rumours of his moving to someone like Real Madrid, but they seem to have several other targets ahead of him and with the reality that the biggest clubs may now not want him, could a new challenge in the Premiership appeal?

We have all dreamt of such a big striker signing, but are we going to again get excited over a rumour with no deal at the end of it all? My personal feeling with both of these players is that they would prefer other moves over Spurs, and might only look upon us, only as a means to get away from their current clubs and possibly enhance their reputations with a successful move to the Prem. But as both are still young enough to stick around for another window or two, I can see them either waiting for a possible late bid from a box office side or simply waiting for another 12 months, in the hope that another great season will be enough to finally tempt someone into giving them their dream move...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Friday July 1 2011
Time: 4:22PM

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Either would be great! Llorente would suit our 4-4-1-1 formation the best though!
HuddersfieldYiddo
01/07/2011 16:25:00
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I'd take them both... cool
DaSPURS
01/07/2011 16:34:00
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is Llorente THAT good? No idea.
kenfish
01/07/2011 16:48:00
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I'll eat my hat if we sign a Spanish striker, or even a non-Spanish striker from a Spanish club. Just cannot see it. Too expensive and not worth it. Have Spanish strikers succeeded in the Premiership? Torres did, but Morientes, Luque failed badly. The best ones will see no need to move from Spain. The others will move purely for money. Don't want that.
TonyRich
01/07/2011 16:50:00
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If i had to choose i would take Llorente over Rossi, he's more of a spurs type of player.
spurkent
01/07/2011 16:52:00
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Llorente a big yes, Rossi, no no no no. Just what we need, another diddy man up front. Jesus no.
jimmy-yid
01/07/2011 17:01:00
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this whole thing of not being able to attract the top players annoys me. There are so many exceptional top class players in the world to go around. yes we wont sign messi but we can get quality.Quality is crap if they dont fit the team.Tarrabt for example.all the names that are linked with us are obvious and are down to lazy journalism if you ask me. when we signed modric not many people saw that coming, van de vart- nobody saw that coming.klinsmann, eh did anybody see that one. There are players and they are out there , we just have to find them. and i dont believe that for one second Levy and harry are just waiting for somebody to call them up and ask them "hey ive a good player that i dont want, do you want him". we are a very organised , well run club with a few quid to spend. turn on sky news on the last day and you will find out we pulled off a major coup.
TallaghtSpurs
01/07/2011 17:05:00
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Interesting on the Llorente front that we announced a friendly with Athletico Bilbao
SUper Yido
01/07/2011 17:10:00
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Ideally getting rid of Pav and Keane and getting these 2 in would be perfect but very unlikely to happen - especially Rossi. I can see Llorente joining as he would fit in perfect ......
SUper Yido
01/07/2011 17:11:00
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I have been in Greece for 10 days and have not looked at any news hoping that when I got back there would be loads of transfer news - but none !!! Awesome ...... good to see some players are moving on. Woodgate and O'hara gone Palacios and Keane on the verge of leaving - wish we would start getting some players in .... but I will have to carry on this suspense until the 31st August typical Spurs stylee
SUper Yido
01/07/2011 17:13:00
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jimmy-yid, I don't know why you're ruling out Rossi he is an extremely clinical finisher something which we lacked. While I would accept either of these two, Rossi seems more like a DIY striker, not relying as much on those around him for goals. Brilliant little goal I saw him score once---------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dnkq8v9888
Spurs999
01/07/2011 17:15:00
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Spurs999 - becuase we need a bit of presence up front. Rossi does not give you that sense of presence. Defences can truly put their feet up against Defoe, Crouch, Pav, Keane - too easy. Rossi may well be clinical, but I do not sense that he would disturb defences. Pav is an extremely clinical finisher - we haven't lacked that.
TonyRich
01/07/2011 17:31:00
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Llorente is an awesome player. Can lead a line he's physical, but he's mobile as well. He is only young so will only get better. The guy who asked if he's any good. He is. I've watched him a lot due to the fact the Spanish football always being on sky! He'd work well with rafa or Rossi playing off of him. But realistically it would be one or the other. I can't see us splashing around £50m for both of them. It's unlike spurs. Rossi is a finisher. A 20/20 man. Both score goals. But I can't see defoe getting a look in if you sign Rossi. And crouch will be embarrassed by llorente cos he can actually head a ball. So keane, crouch and defoe maybe out. Or at least keane and crouch. And then have one of the youngsters whether that be Kane, pedroza or niang (altho niang will probably be loaned back to them). It's looking better tho! These two are the people we should be after.
Howellyido
01/07/2011 17:34:00
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Rossi is brilliant, Llorente is technical and lethal in the air, I want them both. Agree with Spurs999, why people are so dead against Rossi, he's clever, he links the play well and has a great finish at the end of it. This is the year where we need to spend big to keep up. Still have most of the CL money plus general reinvestment, and albeit we're not in the CL this year, but we have Europa money which is still a decent amount, bonuses from sponsors and player sales. I'd be happy with those two as a pairing, decent combination of skills.
bernio3000
01/07/2011 17:37:00
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I want a striker in the style of Llorente, who is a great target man and can play upfront on his own very well. Llorente is getting better every year, last season was his most prolific getting 18 goals and 14 goals the two seasons before that. He would be one of the strikers top of my list and maybe the friendly against them is to see how good he is up close. I like Rossi as he is a clinical striker, the kind of player that Defoe should be but Villareal want 30 million or more and that is far too much for us to spend sadly.
Markoose16
01/07/2011 17:40:00
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Howellyido - 26 is not "young", but it isn't old either I guess...
TonyRich
01/07/2011 17:40:00
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dont think we're in a position to be overly choosy,everyone wants champs league...both these strikers are good and its down to the manager how he sets out the team with them.....harry should be taking a tactical course with the army or whoever for the coming season
rovinella62spurs
01/07/2011 17:51:00
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I'd rather spend 12m on Adebayor to be honest. Just the thought of him scoring against Arsenal makes my b*lls tingle. He is a proven goalscorer in the premier league. instead of spending 25m for Llorente we could go and sign Ade, Leandro and that mexican kid for the same price. Job done. As for rossi....30+ million...No thanks. Gio can be our rossi.
01tottenham
01/07/2011 18:16:00
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Rossi is quality, he's a technical striker that can dribble and finish. he got pace, can create chances and can play in the vdv position too. he's something that defoe can only dream of. Llorente is also quality, he may be older than Rossi, but at 26, he's a proven scorer for Athletic Bilbao and is the top scorer for the past few season. If we can get both of them, i would sell Keane, Crouch and Defoe and use their wages for Rossi and Llorente. if we cannot get Rossi, go for Aguero then, a more explosive striker, wonderkid and proven scorer.
what_sux
01/07/2011 18:18:00
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Llorente looks like Morientes to me. I loved Morientes. There's more legs in his rumour than most. Rossi won't come to Spurs. He blatantly doesn't want to and to be honest if a player is being courted by Barcelona he isn't going to be satisfied with Spurs. That's just the reality of it.
YiDan
01/07/2011 18:21:00
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llorente and vdv wud be sumthin special alright...we had a great run in chmps lge last year and just missed out on 4th...we have great players like modric and bale...why wud players like this think they are above us...levy needs to grow a set and pull players in like llorente and assure them of our ambitions
andyido
01/07/2011 18:31:00
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That's strange to me, a lot of people seem against the idea of signing Rossi and yet YiDan is right, Barcelona have been interested haha.
bernio3000
01/07/2011 18:33:00
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bernio3000 - Rossi is a class player but his price is ridiculous. Everyones warming to the idea of Llorente but what about Adebayor? 12m for a guy who has proved his worth in the premierleague and has gained some La Liga experience with Madrid.
01tottenham
01/07/2011 18:38:00
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Leandro scored again lastnight.. - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TN5G5FUDXzU&feature=player_embedded
coopsieyid
01/07/2011 18:43:00
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llorente's a beast, he eats people like Crouch for breakfast. Only problem with signing a player like him is that, Harry may not be able to resist over using the long ball tactic..
Guyver
01/07/2011 18:51:00
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The two obvious stumbling blocks are whether or not City would sell him to us and whether or not Adebayor would take such a hit on wages. Otherwise yes, but I'd still like a Rossi figure, a small, unselfish striker who can get goals and assists. van der Vaart can to an extent, but he'll never be a striker.
bernio3000
01/07/2011 18:52:00
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Yes please for Llorente, Rossi, at that price, no thanks. we need to learn where we are in life. Llorente may well join us, the same way Luka did, THEN we need to prove to him we're good enough to keep him!! Llorente and vdv, with Modders and Sandro behind, Bale and Lennon on the wings, we'd be as good as anyone. but PLEASE get the business done, stop the endless waiting, stop giving chances to our rivals to sign him, make a decision and make a signing!!!
The Horses Mouth
01/07/2011 18:52:00
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More on Stekelenberg, though it's going to be even more depressing if we don't get involved...

Ajax have denied claims they are in talks with Roma over the sale of Maarten Stekelenburg - and the indication is that he wants to move to the Premier League. The goalkeeper is highly sought-after and Manchester United discussed the idea of signing him this summer before opting for David De Gea. Stekelenburg wanted a move to United and, although nothing materialised, the Dutchman is still eager to come to England, despite interest from Italian giants Roma. Reports had claimed Roma were talking to Ajax about a move for Stekelenburg but the Dutch club have moved to deny the rumours. "Maarten is a very good goalkeeper and there is interest. But Roma have not been in touch for him. People say we are talking to them, but that is false," said an Ajax spokesperson. Arsenal and Tottenham have expressed an interest in the 28-year-old in the past and talkSPORT has been told the goalkeeper would choose an English club over Roma. http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/foo...ier-league-move
coopsieyid
01/07/2011 19:00:00
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For KENFISH - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIFRX8yf4qs&feature=player_embedded

He's like a morph between Crouch, Drogba and Torres. Tall, strong and technical. Very complete striker. With wingers like Bale and Lennon and midfield visionaries like Modric and Van der Vaart this guy must have plenty of supply. He could be a very good option as central striker in a 4-3-3 formation.
coopsieyid
01/07/2011 19:04:00
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Basically he's EXACTLY what we NEED!!
coopsieyid
01/07/2011 19:05:00
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Llorente's biggest strength is that despite his height, he can finish very well, better than Crouch+Defoe. maybe we can get Llorente and Iker Munian from Athletic Bilbao as a package?
what_sux
01/07/2011 19:18:00
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01 Jul 2011 00:39:38 Rossi will sign for tottenham very soon spurs guvnor.

01 Jul 2011 12:28:06 harry redknapp is desperate to off load the likes of kaboul, bassong, hutton, jenas, palacios, dos santos, keane, defoe and pavulychenko to freshen upm his squad.his main targets is fernando llorente of ath bilbao. scott parker will be a spurs player in the next two weeks.

coopsieyid
01/07/2011 19:28:00
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And this is nothing to do with transfers, but simply a really enjoyable post (for us atleast ;-) )

01 Jul 2011 16:07:23 RE: Spurs Guvnor

Looking through yesterday's postings I noticed that Spurs Guvnor got a lot of grief for daring to suggest that Tottenham was traditionally a bigger club than Chelsea or Man City and would probably still be if it wasn't for the mega-funding by Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour.

Rather than just add my own opinion I decided to check if he was right, using the most visible measure - attendances at games.

Up until the Second World War, Spurs was just a Second Division club. They only entered the First Division in 1950/51 season so I took that as my start date. My data source stops at the 2001/02 season. however, this is a useful break point because it roughly coincides with the start of the Abramovich era.

In 52 seasons Spurs had the highest average gate of the three clubs on 32 occasion, the second highest on 17 and the third highest on just 3.

The three poor seasons include the year they were relegated, the year they spent in the Second Division and the year they were building the new West Stand and the stadium capacity was reduced to just over 20,000.

Chelsea had the highest gates in 9 seasons, the second highest in 22 and the third highest in 21.

Man City had the highest gates in 11 seasons, second highest in 12 and third highest in 29.

Over the whole period Tottenham's average gate was 35, 292, Man City's was 30, 135 and Chelsea's was 29, 594.

Consequently, Tottenham's support was 19% bigger than Chelsea's and 17% bigger than Manchester City's.

Nor is this just ancient history. In the Nineteen Nineties (a decade Spurs fans would rather forget) they had the highest average gate in 8 out of the 10 seasons.

I think that Spurs Guvnor is vindicated KM
coopsieyid
01/07/2011 19:30:00
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An Olympic Park Legacy Company director has been suspended after re vealing she had been working as a paid consultant for West Ham. http://www.football365.com/tottenham-hotspur/7013700/OPLC-EMPLOYEE-SUSPENDED
rovinella62spurs
01/07/2011 19:34:00
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You know what? I could see this happening!!.

01 Jul 2011 18:51:05 giovani dos santos going to man utd as SAF thinks he would be great along with chicharito like in gold cup.he can come cheap as well
coopsieyid
01/07/2011 19:35:00
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gio to manu.....thats a nice one coops.....that would show harry how limited his skills are in getting the best out of players
rovinella62spurs
01/07/2011 19:39:00
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Off topic but just met a director at Swansea. Seems Stevie is in good hands :)
Mix26
01/07/2011 19:41:00
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Hello, Folks. Brazilian press states Tottenham is making another bid for Leandro Damião (around 17 million euros). Internacional chairman is said to be changing his speech from "We won´t sell Damião this year" to "If there´s a reasonable bid for Damião, we can sell him now as we think it´s a better window to make business than january window". I for one would like to have this young striker playing for us next august.
AlexSpur
01/07/2011 20:06:00
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soumds good alexspur...but its this august not next
rovinella62spurs
01/07/2011 20:10:00
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rov - I really could see it mate. Talk that Nani could be off. Giggs is on his last legs (but f*** me, what a player), Scholes is history (shame). Although not the same as all of those players, the boy has ability. I remember Ronaldo BURSTING on to the scene, full of tricks and brilliance, but couldn't even cross his fingers, let alone the ball. The only things he had was speed and skill. How did that turn out again?.

I'd actually love to see what Alcy Ferguson could do with a player like Dos Santos. I'm pretty sure he would atleast play him. With Fergie, if Dos Santos got upto his 'reported' antics, he'd be read the riot act (maybe get a boot kicked in his 'Cathy Freeman' looking face), but he'd be given the opportunity to make amends. With 'The Churchill dog', if Dos Santos got upto his 'reported' antics, he's already on his way out the door. Just my opinion!!
coopsieyid
01/07/2011 20:10:00
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Alex - Thanks fella :-)... Mix - Sounds promising mate?
coopsieyid
01/07/2011 20:11:00
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coops dos santos should be kept until january and given a chance when we are comfortable ,if not up to scratch then sell him...simple
rovinella62spurs
01/07/2011 20:14:00
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coopsie, if we do sell gio to manu, we better have to add a 50% next transfer clause, because if it turns out that sir alex bring the best out of gio, we can get 50% of 80 million, that sounds fantastic!
what_sux
01/07/2011 20:26:00
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Like my car this morning, after picking up an unsuitable young lady last night, this is all very ho hum.
lordjohnny
01/07/2011 20:45:00
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rovinella62spurs, yes this august (2011). My mistake.
AlexSpur
01/07/2011 20:51:00
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Wouldn't be that sure that SAF would play Gio. Would he start ahead of Young, Giggs, Nani, Valencia, Anderson, Carrick, Fletcher, Park ? I'm not so sure so all he would end up being is a bit part player like he is at the Lane. Its the same old story on here, our players that are not regular starters turn into world beaters when they are not in the team. Krank, Pav, Gio, Kaboul. Gio is not good enough for Utd, thats why SAF bought Young, a class proven PL player. SAF is also interested in Nasri and Modders so why would they be interested in Gio ?
We're The Shelf Side
01/07/2011 20:58:00
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if thats true alexspur, ill put ur balls in my mouth and hum till the cows come home, what a treat, chuffin great!!!!!
N.IR YID
01/07/2011 21:14:00
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I think we lack a really good scouting set up to be honest. You dont have to look at just house hold names (although i'd be happy with either of the 2 mentioned in the post) to find a potential star. Asamoah Gyan, Demba Ba and Javier Hernandez were hardly household names but did well in their first PL seasons. I think Harry lacks the nouse for a really good player in the transfer market so therefore sticks with tried and trusted PL players that are usually past their sell by date. I honestly think him and Levy sit on google sometimes looking for clues on who to buy. Damien Comolli wasn't everyones cup of tea but he was responsible for scouting Kolo Toure, Eboue and Clichy for the scum as well as Bale, Gio, Berbatov, Modders, Gomes, BAE,. Now working with Liverpool he was instrumental in bringing in Carroll, Suarez and Henderson. I for one would welcome somebody like Comolli working as a director of football at spurs.
We're The Shelf Side
01/07/2011 21:16:00
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Lets punt fifty million on both of them, and get shot of Pav and defoe and if it doesn't work (like it hasn't with Pav and Defoe) where will we go then? We have two big target men at the club already in crouch and Pav and playing one of them up front has not led to the promised land of Champs League. So why would changing out the player make that much of a difference? This system simpling isn't working for us in league. We've all seen games where crouch has been removed from the pitch the long ball stops and we start spraying passes around the pitch and look like world beaters. If we sign both of them play both of them together!!!!! But by the sounds of the rumours we are going to sign these two plus our young boy from brazil and a french wonder kid.... guess thats all our strikers out the door (including the incredible amazing, stupidly talented Gio Dos Santos - world beater everytime he takes to the field but no tin a spurs jersey) So new season then and brand new strike force. How long will we fans let them settle in? after how many games will we start bitching about Harry getting rid of our established players and not intergrating new ones effectively (despite everyone here saying we should be rid of all them twelve months ago)? Fans Huh who'd be a footballer?
Slurms McKenzie
01/07/2011 21:24:00
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Shelf Side - I never liked comoli to be honest but I do see the advantages of having a DOF. The important thing is that the manager and the DOF share the same goal and get along.
MrSpurs
01/07/2011 21:29:00
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Coopsie, Fergie plays all of his guys. So if he brought in Gio it would be to play him. If it didn't work out he'd be sold, but then ManU buy guys they believe will work and intend to invest in. Same as Arsenal, Pool etc. We buy guys to put them in the pantry. We look 4 years later and they have all expired. You've got to wonder who is minding the shop. The plan needs work. COYS
peterballb
01/07/2011 21:30:00
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They say, Always look on the brightside,, but we never signed the quality that we all craved when we could offer the lure of CL, so WHY ? do we all feel it will happen this window!!!!
Born&BredSpur
01/07/2011 21:31:00
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Mr Spurs, getting along is a nice bonus, but it is not required. DOF doesn't have to like the coach and the coach doesn't have to like the players and vice versa. They just all have to get their jobs done. Spurs has become a country club. Entitlement rules and it's not even based on talent, it's based on whether you are liked. What a way to run an operation. If you're liked, you play regardless. If not, you are frozen out regardless. Probably the worst man-manager I have ever seen. COYS
peterballb
01/07/2011 21:33:00
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Shelf Side, i think that our scouting is decent, but the reason for missing out all the cheap quality star is that our manager won't take the risk. he would rather keep crouch then buy 40 million for a world class striker. i will be okay if a DOF comes, i will also be okay if DOF don't come, but the fact is, our manager MUST learn to trust the scouts and not buy players like parker just because he's a good guy and watch him play billion of times.
what_sux
01/07/2011 21:35:00
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Slurms, I go to every spurs home game and a lot away, ive seen Gio play lots of times and I can assure you he isn't a world beater evertime he takes to the field as your deluded comment states. You describe him as a stupidly talented world beater !!!! do me a favour mate, that description is acurate for the little argentinian guy at barcelona. Dont let the you tube clips of his mexico goals cloud your judgement. If he was that good big teams would be queing up for him and they are not.
We're The Shelf Side
01/07/2011 21:35:00
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BABS, absolutely. If Rossi or Llorente sign for Spurs it will be end of August and it will be because there are no CL teams interested. Madrid wanted Llorente, Rossi wanted to go to Italy. I have not seen one compelling thing that makes me believe they will sign with us. COYS
peterballb
01/07/2011 21:36:00
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dont think harry has the nuts to change the whole striker lineup, wish he did, but not ideal mckenzie, it wud unsettle the whole team imo, cant see it happening, too much of a risk, like the haze of a stella hangover, that last rip in bed before you jump up and check!!!!! you guys have been there you know what i mean
N.IR YID
01/07/2011 21:36:00
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MrSpurs, I didnt like him much either but that was more a personality thing and the things we heard about him. Looking at the players I listed above that he is responsible for scouting then i'd take them all day long over the like of Crouch, Defoe and Pienaar. And then Harry wanting Parker and Neville. Give me a DOF anytime.
We're The Shelf Side
01/07/2011 21:42:00
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agree what_sux, harry needs to grow a set and let his merkin down, take levy up on his offer of spending the odd 30mill on a top player and stop *****tin it that his reputation as a gud wheeler dealer is goin down the u-bend! all jobbies smell of roses once you spray the scent of ahhhhhh job well down, can see better now, another clean shirt will do ya. levy get it done, harry senokot
N.IR YID
01/07/2011 21:49:00
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Why will VDV work well with Llorente? How many of Crouch's 4 brilliant goals were from through balls or link up with VDV? VDV did nothing to make any of our strikers look like strikers and almost all of our striker goals came in 4-4-2, and if you consider the Crouch nod down to VDV as 4-4-2 (which it is), virtually nothing was provided by VDV but outlets to Lennon and Bale. Yes, Llorente, or Carroll or any other true big striker will get on the end of more balls from the wingers, but where exactly does that bring VDV in? People keep saying that all of these strikers will be great with VDV, but even Huntelaar is generally not on the pitch for Holland when VDV is, because it just doesn't work. It's not just our guys. Findng a strike partner for VDv will be miles more difficult than finding one for Berbatov. For VDV, a Rooney type player is needed. There aren't many of them in world football. Our system does not flatter any of the current strikers, so why we aren't selling the four, I have no idea. COYS
peterballb
01/07/2011 21:49:00
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what_sux, i'd have to disagree with you that our scouting is decent. We dont have a DOF like a Comolli bringing in players with real quality. A decent scouting system wouldn't mean our chairman calling the manager with a couple of hours to go of the transfer window and saying "Harry do you like VDV ? Harry responds "yes he ok" Levy says "ok ill buy him for you". Thats how Harry describes the VDV transfer. Yes it turned out to be an amazing signing but Its all a bit desperate for my liking.
We're The Shelf Side
01/07/2011 21:51:00
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peterballb id love for us to get rid of all four, they were a shower of *****e last year,and i really hate to admit it but selling vdv is a more plausable solution, square pegs in round holes and all that, hes a top top player but does having him in our team cause more problems than its worth, is he that good we need to sell four once regarded top international strikers all because vdv mite hav a clause in his contract that states if fit must play
N.IR YID
01/07/2011 22:01:00
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Shelf Side, you can't compare with the vdv signing, cause nobody expects vdv to be available at bargain price, even the top quality scouts. note that i use decent, there are many clubs that have good, very good, excellent scouting, to be honest decent is the best word i can use to describe it. the fact is, no matter how good out scouts will be, our manager has THE FINAL SAY. so even we sign rossi and aguero, if our manager say no, we still stick with crouch. future seems bright ya?
what_sux
01/07/2011 22:05:00
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As long as Keane and Crouch are on their way, I,d keep Pav and Defoe for now, bring in a top striker and give Obika a chance to show his worth.
Born&BredSpur
01/07/2011 22:09:00
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baby seal walked into a club
N.IR YID
01/07/2011 22:09:00
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The DOF provides stabililty but it is important that they listen to the manager which Comoli failed to do with Jol. There is not point buying 2 right wingers i.e. Lennon and Bentley when there were other areas of the pitch which were in bad need of attention (I think back then we had the terrible Stalteri at right back). Now we have Bentley on the books earning £60k a week and no chance of getting the £15 mil back that we paid for him. Yes we have Bale as an example of how it can work but even with Comoli it didnt seem like the transfers were structured around what the team needed, instead it felt like a scatter gun approach.
MrSpurs
01/07/2011 22:10:00
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Well if we are putting entitlement clauses in our contracts, it's done before it starts. There is no point. No motivation. The option is to play guys out of position rather than the position player. I do believe Crouch had an appearances clause which is why Harry played him 53 consecutive PL games. 1 goal in 21 is a CB, not a striker. It doesn't matter who we bring in, selection, fundamentals, preparation focus, these are our issues. None of our strikers are as poor as they looked last season. So blame them or blame the system. I can't blame VDV, because like Crouch, he doesn't make the lineup card. I don't blame Dawson for long balls to Crouch, because clearly that is what is being asked. Our game changes completely when Crouch goes out or comes in. It's by design. This is the plan. Nod down to VDV, is the plan. Sadly for Birmingham Crouch had to go off and Pav scored a brace. Otherwise they'd still be in the PL. COYS
peterballb
01/07/2011 22:12:00
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N.I.R.Yid, hey I'm Canadian, I take offense. Oh wait, we don't take offense to anyone.

And for all those fellow Canucks on here, Happy Canada Day. Maple Leaf Forever. Raise a wobbly pop or 10 to BBQ and fireworks. COYS
peterballb
01/07/2011 22:14:00
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Who bought Sandro?
MrSpurs
01/07/2011 22:16:00
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I cant help but wonder what Levy,s bargaining chip will be when he tries buttering up Modric come monday morning! I mean he must have an ace or two up his sleeve, right,,,,right ?? I wonder what worldwide names he has in store!!
Born&BredSpur
01/07/2011 22:20:00
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Did someone shout Parker and Adam,s !!
Born&BredSpur
01/07/2011 22:21:00
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comollis after niang now, hoped he was nearly ours for the future, any itk bolox coopsie, where are you when we need a fix
N.IR YID
01/07/2011 22:21:00
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Maarten Stekelenburg is who we need and I think he's available.
MrSpurs
01/07/2011 22:25:00
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sorry peterballb what offended you? im watching south park film terence and philip kick ass, canada rules
N.IR YID
01/07/2011 22:26:00
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