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Tottenham Hotspur vs. Manchester City

Two games into the season and Spurs will have in my opinion played the teams that will finish first and second in this season`s Prem, so if we get another negative result, perhaps we should look for some perspective and not get carried away.

Saying that, Spurs have a great record against City, winning eleven out of the last fourteen games between the sides, but we all know that with the unlimited funds at Eastlands, this is a City side to compare with the best in Europe, let alone the Premiership. Not quite a match for Barcelona yet, as Harry states, but give them time and who knows.

Tottenham`s new boy, Emmanuel Adebayor, will again have to watch this game from the stands, as he is unable to face his contracted club, so I assume there will be a final chance for Jermain Defoe to stake a claim to play over Roman Pavlyuchenko, who was terrible on Thursday in my opinion and simply didn`t look interested, whilst it would appear that Peter Crouch will be leaving the club in the next few days and as he is injured, he won`t get an opportunity to say good bye to the Spurs fans

Also definitely out tomorrow are Ledley King, William Gallas, Sandro, Wilson Palacios, Steven Pienaar and Danny Rose, but Jermaine Jenas and Kyle Walker are both expected to return after recovering from their virus. Whether Walker will get the nod over Vedran Corluka will be one of the interesting calls for Harry, and in reality it is a case of choosing whether you want to play an attacking player, who isn`t quite there defensively or a defensive player, who isn`t quite there offensively. A tough call for Harry, especially against the likes of either David Silva or Sami Nasri on the City left.

Elsewhere in defence, I can`t see too many surprises, with Friedel deserving another start over Gomes, and Dawson, Kaboul and BAE getting the other places. In midfield, the big call will be whether Luka Modric starts the game, which may well signify his immediate future. If he plays, you assume unless a massive offer arrives in Daniel Levy`s inbox, he will stay, but if he doesn`t start, you get the impression he is already heading towards the exit door.

If all is well between now and kick off, I would hope and expect a Spurs line up of, Friedel, Walker, Dawson, Kaboul, BAE, Lennon, Huddlestone, Modric, Bale, VdV and Defoe, but I can see there being the major debate over who starts at right back, with my preference for Walker being that we have to give him the games and time to establish himself and with City usually playing a more narrow, 4-2-3-1, Walker`s greater offensive ability might cause problems, whilst am I alone in thinking he has actually not been too bad with his defensive duties?

For me a decent Spurs performance and a draw, wouldn`t be a bad result, whilst a defeat wouldn`t be the end of the world, as long as we start to pick up points against Wolves and Liverpool in the coming weeks. City will be a massive test for our defensive ability, but have looked slightly vulnerable in that area themselves, and will again miss their excellent defensive midfielder Nigel De Jong tomorrow, which for me is a plus for Spurs.

If Spurs can win this, it will be a massive boost for the team and give real credence to our belief that we can make the top four this season, but I have a feeling that the points will be shared tomorrow and will go with a 1-1 draw...

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Writer: OxfordSpur

Date:Saturday August 27 2011

Time: 3:35PM

Your Comments

We'll get battered!!

coopsieyid

can't play Defoe alone up front...

spurswede

yeah coopsie, Harry already presented his excuses :)

logos8

Where should I go to chat with Spurs supporters?

Shannon

I just wish it was the FIRST battering we were going to get this season. Unfortunately, we've currently got 0 points, sit bottom of the league, with a -3 goal difference, and we're about to face a team with Tevez, Aguero, Nasri, Silva, Yaya Toure, Dzeko, Richards, DeJong etc etc. Still, Dawson will cope with that :-(

coopsieyid

If we had Sandro fully fit i would be a little more confident. I could probably see Corluka starting ahead of walker tomoro.

01tottenham

Have to agree with coopsie we will take a right beating tomorrow shows how far City have come and with our line up we haven't really moved at all. Adebayor will make a difference to us but we desperately need Sandro back in the midfield as and when we get those two into the side we will be a match for anyone

Spurs Allday

I totally dont have any confidence with our defense. We need Gallas or King fit. Also without any protection for back 4 in midfield, Silva is going to run riots tomorrow. I just feel, we can just go for all or nothing approach. Give it all in attack, simply because we dont have any defense.

sydqcb5

Sorry Shannon. Should we not say what we truthfully think? Should I only say what I think everyone wants to hear?. Am I not allowed to voice my personal opinion about this particular article?.

OK, I'm sorry everyone. Spurs are playing against a right shower of $hit on Sunday. They have no quality whatsoever, and we've got far too much for them to deal with. We're gona fackin slaughter them. I'll go for a 23-0 home win.. COYS

coopsieyid

Spurs to win 2-0

MikeStylez

Bolton played quite well against $hitty and almost deserved a draw... certainly we can have that performance as well... but when I imagine Nasri, Silva, Toure, Aguero & Tevez against our defence... I really don't know what to say. Last season they were better then us in the league considering goals scored and goals conceded... and when you consider that this year they upgraded with Nasri and Aguero and Dzeko is finding his form getting used to pl... Samba would have been good for us in such a game, but still not enough :)

logos8

If crouch plays we win

TalentfromGod

why the negativity guys?! ive already put a fiver on spurs winning 3-1 and a fiver on spurs winning 3-2, we've got it in the bag surely, ive won like £3.50 in the bookies before so i know me stuff ;)

Dap-Spur

oh and Norwich looking quite good against them Wan*&*s Chelski http://www.firstrowsports.eu/watch/80662/1/watch-chelsea-vs-norwich-city.html

Dap-Spur

Redknapp will have a plan. Spurs will win

TalentfromGod

Why so much pessimism? We were 3% short of possession away from home at Old Trafford and had as much or more chance on goal than Utd. But it just wasn't to be. We always dominate teams now, and have good chances to score just our inept strikers can't score, but now we have Ade I'm sure we'll pick up wins against minor teams and bigger teams. Sure, Ade can't play against City but we always dominate them and outplay them like kids. I think we'll get a win esp' at home, or at least a draw with both sides scoring a couple/few each.

MikeStylez

Torres has been *****e, which i LOVE to see......Dannism!!

Dap-Spur

We'll be all right. City look potent but Bolton got two goals against them - their defence isn't impregnable. Losing 3-0 to Man U at Old Trafford made us look worse than we were. In the first half we were competitive and had more chances than them. It all went wrong in the last half hour, and even then Defoe hit the post (at 2-0) with 12 minutes left and we could have made a game of it. We have a good side and, whether we win or not, I expect us to make a good match of it tomorrow. I certainly do not expect us to get slaughtered at WHL!

Shannon

Our no.14 has some making up to do. He can start by schhooling City in midfield

TalentfromGod

GET IN Grant Holt!!!!

spursftw

This will be our first league home game..... I am sure the boys will not be going in just defensively minded. We have the flair, passion, the ability and in most areas, player-for-player we can match City. It will also be down to the tactics. The Yid Army will be our 12th player!

CharlieSpurs

"Redknapp will have a plan. Spurs will win" TalentfromGod.............. really???? Harry had a plan last year but that own goal from Crouch made everything happen didn't it? This is football, you can never know what will happen...

logos8

Man I was so happy when Norwich scored. Nice goal too... Is Modric watching? :)

logos8

Swansea keeping a clean sheet at the moment, be great for Caulker if they keep consecutive clean sheets

Spurs Allday

I really hope it atleast stays 1-1 if not a win for Norwich. It might shut the chelsea fans up who come on here...

spursftw

lol such a dive from ramires.... leaps over the keeper...

spursftw

oh well nevermind... chelsea penalty and ruddy off.. typical.

spursftw

Ramires was already on his way down before he was touched, typical chelski cheating and a ref with no bottle to give the right decision

philbill

and such a shame because the red card was harsh. penalty: ok, maybe... red card: no.

logos8

Meh it's about the least you would expect. Lucky to beat West Brom and now lucky to beat Norwich. Norwich were worthy of atleast a point. Equalled Chelsea up until the penalty.

spursftw

Redknapp has just come out and said "Don't be surprised if we challenge for the title this year". How long before he says we're not gonna challenge and 5th "is as good as it gets". I think he plays mind-games with himself and probably gets confused.

Chrissybwoy

We couldn't score against a VERY inexperienced Man Utd back 4 (inexperienced as in how often they've played together, and age). We never looked like scoring past them. They also happened to hale half their first team missing lol. Yet still had no problem beating us 3-0. You can say all you want about "we matched them for 55mins" etc etc. The game lasts for 90 FFS...

So what on earth gives people the impression that we're not only going to score against a much more 'bonded', and tighter Man City defence. We're also going to beat them, whilst containing the likes of Dzeko, Yaya Toure, Aguero, Tevez, Silva, Nasri, Balotelli etc etc??.... I should coco!!

MikeStylez - "we always batter them and outplay them like kids".. And where did that get us last season? And we've done what, to make ourselves better? Do you REALLY, hand on heart, believe that we'll dominate and outplay them like kids, when their midfield could consist of Silva & Nasri, with Toure protecting them, flanked by Dzeko/Tevez, Aguero up top etc etc??. I'm sure Modric is well and truly up for the challenge, and can cope with all that on his own!!

coopsieyid

Oh and Dap, your post about the bookies, had me in stitches mate. Thankyou lol

coopsieyid

dap, coopsie... nice posts :)

logos8

why does vdv play off that fish for brains defoe, why cant he play up there alongside him

123spurs

I believe we have a good chance to bounce back. I would never play one upfront as some suggest here. Let's hope we beat those *****eh and get back to challenge the title. I must say that we need one CB knowing how fragile we are with Gallas and King. Now, I am hoping I will have power to watch the game and getting prepared to weather the storm in NYC. Its just me, myself and Irene today :)

kosovo_spurs

123spurs why isn't vdv 100% fit? why isn't he a team player? such a big mystery this guy huh?

logos8

and almost forgot... why does he have a bear belly? (just kidding)

logos8

I have already written us off,,,So that said we will proberbly play out of our skins and get something more than nothing out the game, maybe the lads might like to show Adebayor what they are made of,,,,you never know do you! oh well its nice to dream ;-) C.O.Y.S

Born&BredSpur

If Harry really said "Don't be surprised if we challenge for the title this year"... he is senile or has alzheimer's...

logos8

I will be shocked, if we managed to get a point at home to city. Thats how much I rate city this season and how disappointed I am with spurs already....

spursftw

cant say why he aint 100%fit maybe thats why RM got rid of him, we seem to be a bunch of indvidual players just put together to make 11.

123spurs

how can you say that you can't compete with the big 4 clubs, and say Man City are better than Barca... but still claim you are going to challenge for the title?

logos8

BBC saying Palacios will be a stoke player in the next 48hrs. I'd imagine a bid for Hutton is on its way as well and Warnock is hoping for further additions fingers crossed he comes in for Jenas lets hope we see these guys going out very soon :)

Spurs Allday

bleeding chelski gits, 3-1 win but Norwich looked damn good against them up until the pen, defo a pen i'd say but no way red. Not too bothered about playing them at the moment, if we keep Modric it will be a lovely day with lots of texts to me pals. But yes back to the topic in hand, I seriously think we will struggle against city and the manchester globetrotters they are pound for pound (see what i did there) a stronger team and Dawson to me has looked a tad dodgy the past few games, if it was King and Kaboul i would be much happier, i do think Harry will play Walker though as he will want to attack from the start. Not sure if Tevez will start but if he does it may be that point in your life to go take a lovely walk with the missus that she always talks about and you've "never had time" for :p

Dap-Spur

Chrissy, mate. I had the exact same thought when I saw about the comments Harry made. What a facking dick!!

logos - I also had the exact same thought as you, when I read the post from TfG.. though he most definately is NOT a dick!! CharlieSpurs - "player-for-player we can match City". WHAT?? Giz a toke on whatever it is you've got, please. OK, who is a match for Hart?.. Who is a match for Richards?.. Kompany??.. Lescott?.. Toure?.. Silva?.. Nasri?.. And don't even get me started on the strikers lol.. I'm sure you'll have no problem telling me how we'll match Dzeko, Tevez, Aguero and Balotelli. With Jermain, Peter and Roman LMFAO.....

Bloody hell, their subs are as good/better than many of our starters. Barry is better than any of our DM who are not called Sandro. Adam Johnson is better than Lennon. Milner is as good as any midfielder we have who isn't called Sandro, Modder Focker or Rafa (debatable that he's a midfielder)..

Sorry Charlie, I'm not having a go at you. I just can't see how on earth you think that "player for player we can match City"??

coopsieyid

City fan here, I think most of us would take a draw away at WHL. After the pummeling we took last year and sneaked out with a point, a lot of us have some justifiable trepidation. We do seem to have become more attacking this term (once De Jong got injured anyway), so it should be a very entertaining game. Really looking forward to it.

thecamelsfoot

@coopsie, Gareth Barry isn't fit to lace Gary Docherty's boots..

Chrissybwoy

we drew at home with the oilers last season, first match, i think we can go one better, second match, this season. Charlie at RB for me he has lost weight and much more solid than Walker defensively.

cheshireyid

To think we had those ********s by the throat last year at the lane. They somehow managed to fluke a draw thanks to our 'super' strike force. The win at their gaff was another stroke of good fortune. We need to be fired up against them and take no shiiiiiiiiitt, hey are still a bunch of mercenaries at the core.

zombie-greavsie

Yep! a bunch of very willing and very able merceneries though, eh!

Born&BredSpur

by PnR61 » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:17 pm "Staight out of the PnR spy network...............................the signing of Parker will enable Modric to leave.............................but only a bid of £35 mill plus add-ons can make this happen...........................you heard it here first marmites"

coopsieyid

every game is different so hold on to all ur negative thoughts until game is over, we battered them last season 1st game even though it was a draw, bolton gifted city goals, chelscum struggling in there 3 easy games, ya they look good on paper. we will have to up our game, id say we will take the lead but end up a draw COYS in harry i trust

123spurs

I held on to my negative thoughts in the United game 123 mate,,,,,look where that got me! trust me, aim low and anything else will be a bonus!!

Born&BredSpur

Hahaha B&B, I like your philosophy boss!

Chrissybwoy

You know it makes sense Chrissybwoy! lofl

Born&BredSpur

Harry took us to fourth, and then fifth, in a competitive league and its a bit sickening when he gets slated and his achievements aren't acknowledged. I know, I know, some will say any manager could have done it with the talent at his disposal. And I agree he has his personal flaws, he's defensive about his mistakes and he probably talks too much. But let's give some credit where it's due and let's exercise some moderation and balance in how we insult our manager, who probably has one of the trickier jobs in English football.

Shannon

agree with putting out an attacking side out force city to caution.....fast flowing footy can put us in the drivers seat....im a yid so i say a win for the yids....coys

rovinella62spurs

city will go 4-4-2 for this game. mancini knows that he cant go to places like ours anymore and just try and get a point. he'll probably play aguero and dzeko up top. good point about walker tho, i wouldve liked corluka to start against united but seeing that city's left winger in theory is usually silva but he he never actually plays there and is always in the middle, walker may not have someone to mark and can run up the wing. vdv should either play on the right or be a sub with defoe and pav up top.

laneno14

Quite simply we'd need the Yid Army to BATTER their fans into utter silence, raise the roof & enforce the belief that our season is full of positive promise. So we don't have Sandro, King & Gallas, no Ade, BUT we do have Modders, VDV, Bale, Lennon & JD. We're at home so we have to attack them, my only hesitation is @ RB. Walker has excellent attacking quality tho shaky defending vs Charlie who links up great with Lennon but usually stays back & is a better defender then Kyle (although Charlie's hardly great). I'd have to see who looked more capable in training to decide that 1. I know we're capable of the win but the my gut tells me a draw (but maybe its just heartburn ?) COYS

True Spurs Supporter

Harry gets slated because he never takes the blame, never admits to knowing about signings that might pose a risk (i.e vdv, sandro), tactically inept, in games and training, (quote vdv), tries to sign players like joe cole, never makes subs at the right time, was pleased for West Ham when they beat us and not to mention stockpiling us with average players and not cofirming that he wants to stay or leave for england. Yes getting us 4th was a great achievement but keeping us there with a couple of players would have been a greater achievement.

Camb-Spur

LMAO @ Chrissybwoy's post about Barry & Docherty..

coopsieyid

True story coops.

Chrissybwoy

May I ask who has insulted our saviour of a manager in this topic, Shannon??. I've seen a few people comment about the puzzling and extremely contradictory statement he made about winning the league, but nothing insulting or disregarding of what he's done in the past. As far as I can see, he's getting all the credit he's due at the moment. I believe credit comes after doing something worthy of being credited??

coopsieyid

I just did coopsie, oops!

Camb-Spur

Am I entitled to ask, WHY Harry would want to get involved in the Nasri saga! WHAT has it got to do with him ???

Born&BredSpur

Oh fu** it, I'll say something positive. Just to get the Coopsiebashers off my back.. If we play Kaboul in the centre of defence, we won't lose by as many as we would if he wasn't playing.. COYS

coopsieyid

"I had the exact same thought when I saw about the comments Harry made. What a facking dick!!" Unjustifiable, really, and uncalled for. And I wasn't referring only to what was on here but a general trend of attacking the manager in an extremelt disrespectful way considering his achievements. He irritates me too sometimes, but I do acknowledge that a manager who has taken a side to the Champions league and then finished in the top five probably knows a bit about football. Not as much as some of the people on here, but a bit.

Shannon

BABS because he cant stay out of the flipping media!

Camb-Spur

2 - 1 spurs, city don't like playing us and we will do a job on them at the lane thats positive coops

spurticus87

Camp-Spur, I can forgive him most of those, but when he was pleased that West Ham beat us I was so angry I almost prolapsed.

Chrissybwoy

F@CK 'Arry......he's a decent dude....but just too indifferent to our team's cause.....one can tell by the way he talks in his interviews.....he's cool and loose with his statements and that's alright to a certain extent....but he just doesn't show he cares in the end.....I know its just a job...but in this field one requires to add that care/passion......more so if your not that good.... SO F@CK 'Arry, the inept careless asshat!!!!!

dcruzer

It's all names on paper, City were rat droppings against bolton and they were at home, so if spurs play with confidence instead of Arry telling them they will most likely lose this one because city are better than Barca. We can get a result and by result I think a draw will do.But go all out for a win. It happened at united we got mesmerised by the Old trafford jinx, the spending power etc when in reality they were a team of nervous youngsters. But we played like cowards and got what we deserved. Its time to show some steel and take the big guns down.COYS.

Slyspur

Slyspur, not sure if you noticed or not but, those names on paper actually have an end product! ball in the back of the net.

Born&BredSpur

If we beat Man City, does that mean we're better than Barcelona then?

Chrissybwoy

Didn't Harry say that it's possibly his last job in football and he wants to enjoy himself? Glad he's just here for the ride, why can't all managers give less of a $hit about their respective clubs? He probably sleeps like a baby regardless of the results.

Chrissybwoy

We`re Citys bogey team but on this occasion won`t stop them from getting the 3 points .Phuck me Suarez looks mustard & Harry thought he`d flop in the EPL for being too lightweight .Chrissybwoy - love the posts keep em up dude

big cockeral

Welldone Coopsie thats the spirit ! Lmao X^D.

True Spurs Supporter

Sorry Camb, I called you Camp-Spur by mistake. No disrespect intended, it was an honest mistake chief.

Chrissybwoy

I too believe that we are going to get hammered. No CB's, no MF and no attack equals a defeat in my book. And Ox, I don't think Walker has learned how to defend yet so I would play Charlie. City have the players to expose our weaknesses and Walker is one of them at this level in my opinion. A draw would be a great result, a win the stuff of legends. By the way, that great international football competition, the Africa Cup Of Nations kicks off between Jan 21st and Feb 12th, so I guess our new star striker will be missing for at least some of that time, depending on how far Togo progress? So much to look forward to at this point of the season. It just gets better and better (Steve Martin - The Man With 2 Brains). COYS!

Harry-Kari

Shannon, that wasn't attacking Harry, it was stating the truth. He IS a dick!!. As BABS correctly asked above, WTF does Nasri's move have to do with Redknapp?. Yeah, why not go and tell the world what a money grabbing tosser Nasri is, on the day before we're due to face him and his team. I'm sure they could do with the extra motivation :-(. And YES we qualified for CL football under his stewardship, but we'd have qualified for the CL if Helen Keller was selecting the team. How have we done since?. Rather than tell me what he has done for our club, how about you tell me/us about the FACT that he's achieved THREE league wins since February 12th. Despite the fact that he has played Blackpool twice, Wolves, West Ham, Wigan and West Brom since that date....

Indeed, I should be throwing facking rose petals at his feet. You see, despite the fact that you insinuate that I believe I know more than Redknapp does about football, I don't need to know the slightest facking thing about it, to know what our results have been like. And correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't results what football is all about?. Good God I'm a mug for believing such a thing!!

coopsieyid

Oh great!!!! the Africa Cup, just what we dont need this season, bye Ade, Soulman, Bae and to a lesser extent Pieaner or what ever he,s called!

Born&BredSpur

And something else to cheer us all up, I see the myp2p.eu website has had its domain removed from the net....I wonder who could be behind that?

Harry-Kari

Ha no worries chrissy! Harry-Kari isnt Adebayor self retired from international after the bus shootings last time round? and possibly togo got banned from the comp? feel free to correct me as i'm not quoting anything

Camb-Spur

Helen Keller! lmfao

Born&BredSpur

Harry-Kari, I thought Adebayor had retired from International football.

Chrissybwoy

did Adebeyor not retire from International football after the shooting incident?

molesy

BABS I dont think Cameroon can qualify either

Camb-Spur

Camb-Spur, great minds, you beat me to the post lol.

Chrissybwoy

Coops, on the other thread you mentioned a bridge named Bill NIc way for the NDP, can I ask where you heard/read this mate?

Chrissybwoy

Yep, it's all names on paper. They were below par against Bolton. They HAMMERED Swansea. Oh, and before that, there was the small matter of only just losing out to the team that battered us 3-0 on Monday night.

coopsieyid

turn it in, its getting boring now!!!!!! lofl.

Born&BredSpur

Sure Coopsie, but you can't just select the period of the results that suits you. As I've admitted, Harry talks too much, which is why journalists are always calling him up for his opinions: he makes good copy!! And most of the time I agree with him (not always). DCruzer, you could be right, I'll watch him some more and think about it. But it MIGHT also be a good thing if our coach isn't too emotionally involved - it makes for a cooler head, don't you think? After all, he's paid to coach us, not love us.

Shannon

HARRY-KARI... Adebayor has retired from International footy mate. The awful 'team bus being shot up' put pay to that mate. Ade will be with us whilst the ACN is going on!!

coopsieyid

I really like Mark Davis from Bolton. I think I'd buy him over Parker anyday

kosovo_spurs

Yeh maybe Harry can drive the team bus when he gets sacked! coach my a,rse

Born&BredSpur

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2010/apr/12/emmanuel-adebayor-international-football

coopsieyid

I'm not going to say anything more about attitudes towards Harry. I'm not his image consultant and people can be as abusive or illogical as they want. They clearly have their opinions and I have mine, and these seem to be irreconcilably at odds.

Shannon

Chrissy - re your question about the bridge. Supposed itk info from Total Tottenham site.

coopsieyid

I know its the daily mail and probably ****e but an interesting interview with Owen Hargreaves in there today, absolutely massive it was. Makes good reading though, he is 100% convinced that he has been rebuilt and will play 40 games this season for someone. His specialist confirmed it as well. worth a 12 month pay as you play contract IF he could prove this to our doctors and coaching (term used loosely!) staff surely as apposed to paying for parker? my opinion only so dont shoot me people!

Camb-Spur

Dont worry about it Shannon mate! its a forum after all, cant all agree on everything after all!

Born&BredSpur

Thanks Coopsie, I forgot about that...good news.

Harry-Kari

Shannon, the reason I give Harry a little leeway is because when we finished fourth we had NO EUROPE that season. People forget that, but it's a fact and was a major contributing factor. As long as we progress then I'm happy. Progress for me would be 5th and a trophy, just an indication that we're at least moving in the right direction. Will it happen? I don't pretend to know the answers.

Chrissybwoy

12 month with an option to extend it if X amount of games gets reached, may I add.

Camb-Spur

Shannon, how have I just selected the period of results that suit me?. I went from February, right up until the current day. What was I supposed to do, go back to 1987 and mention every goal since Dave Bennett equalised against us in the cup final?. I do believe we live in the here & now, not in the past??. So that's why I based my response on recent results, and only on league results. Because that's what we're bloody well talking about!!

coopsieyid

just signed in and read the article and posts, see your getting it in the neck again coops, ha ha. chin up mate, broad shoulders and all that. and harry is in MY opinion a loud mouthed self obsessing no good piece of cr*p. sorry for the insult cr*p.

oldtimeyid

@Shannon, "but you can't just select the period of the results that suits you". Genius post, however the ol' two points from eight games soundbite would beg to differ from your comment. That soundbite STILL suits Redknapp when he needs it. His son is a retard and talks rubbish too, so at least it's in the genes.

Chrissybwoy

some people need to be careful what they wish for in terms of a manager, Ramos anyone?

Baledout

Ramos! nah Jol will do though!!!!

Born&BredSpur

And thanks to CambSpur and Chrissybwoy too. And Shannon, you are not completely alone re: Harry, but we are in the minority. Thing is, we haven't strenghtened sufficiently in the summer, again, for whatever reason and whoever is suppose to be in charge of player aquisition and disposal, so I don't see how we can blame Harry directly for what happens tomorrow, given the injury list, the Modric lunatic and the complete lack of strikers of supposed PL standard. Just wish Harry would admit that the current crop are useless and try some of the youngsters from Thursday, you know the ones that aren't ready to play PL, some of them without ever having been see by some of the pundits on here. At least Townsend in a striking role might be better than DeFoe and the psychotic dutchman. Happy days. COYS!

Harry-Kari

what i wish for in a manager is one that has OUR team as his first concern and not himself. ramos is not any worse than redcrap. in his own country he was considered better.

oldtimeyid

Ramos was a ridiculous appointment though. His CV was mustard, however to appoint a manager that doesn't speak a word of the Queens was always going to end in tears. Communication is a good thing in this day and age.

Chrissybwoy

harry should have forced modrics hand against hearts and made him play. that would have shown us. chelsea and modric himself who is in charge.

oldtimeyid

BTW, I've been watching the numbers on predictions for our match fluctuate all day. Fascinating - a Spurs win has just edged into the lead with 38% but at one stage it was almost a third each way.

Shannon

Baledout, at the time Ramos had won the Eufa cup and had his team playing superb football

Camb-Spur

chrissy i agree about ramos and all that. my point is he isnt worse than what we have now.

oldtimeyid

Should try going to the Norwich site, has vid of Drogba getting knocked unconcious, don't wish him any harm at all, but very dramatic vid!!

The Horses Mouth

neither was Jol oldtime mate!

Born&BredSpur

But as chrissy states, couldnt speak english so it was madness!

Camb-Spur

jol dona a great job for us, a true manager and a gentleman who still should be here babs. just on ssn the sarge in advanced talks at stoke.

oldtimeyid

Liverpool look to be gelling :P

spursftw

on a different note, this Falque guy (whom I know nothing about), I'm predicting he gets about as much game time as Pletiklosa did!

Camb-Spur

spot on there oldtime yid, BMJ what a top geezer

Born&BredSpur

we seriously need to get going,pool lookin good

ghulamville

oldtime, thing with Jol is, although we all still love the man, our players looked unfit and he seemed reticent to make changes when they were required. His treatment was harsh and he'll always have a good place in my heart, but if you take off the rose-tinted specs, at the time most of us were clamouring for a change in management. Hindsight is always 20-20, as a man he's very likeable, as a manager he just came up a little short. However I love Martin Jol and Martin Jol loves me, so we move on. Same thing happened with Darren Bent, we all wanted rid of him, now suddenly we wouldn't mind if he was in our team. He was always gonna score goals, that's what he does. Doesn't change the fact that at the time we all wanted him to be sold, now suddenly things could possibly go awry and we yearn for things that we once discarded, even though at the time we knew it was the right thing to do.

Chrissybwoy

if you gave jol the squad we have now i believe we would have made 4th last season crissy

oldtimeyid

and i dont wear rose tinted specs, im a realist thats why i think we will lose tomorrow. i pray im wrong.

oldtimeyid

Shannon - I've just put the poll back on level terms ;-) lol

coopsieyid

so pool spent 20 on downing, we dint rate we can get better, henderson 20 mil wate of money? and adam didnt rate him we can get better.?

123spurs

Martin Jol took us within a pasta (or some gut illness), to fourth place, using a team that'd be thrashed by the one we have today! He was appointed by Arneson, but, as soon as Commoli was appointed was seen as almost worthless. I remember Jol talking about signings, saying that Commolli was given " all the budget; signing Bentley and Bent", whilst Jol was only allowed to sign players for tiny amounts. He gave Thudd, BAE and Kaboul as examples of his signings. And which players are worth more to us now??

The Horses Mouth

oldtime, it's all conjecture though chap, we don't know that Jol would have got fourth, it's all ifs and buts. If my nan had wheels, she'd be a bus. If If If. Some people on here suggest that Mourinho would have won the league if he had our squad. There is no basis to this theory. Football is football, life is life. Hypothetical scenarios are worthless and should be treated as such.

Chrissybwoy

One last thing about Harry. Who are our weakest links? Jermain, Pepperami, Keane (he gone now, thank fu**), Palacios, Pienaar?? Well I hope you get my point. The areas that REALLY need to be worked on, are weak because of the players that Harry signed. Oh, and they ARE always broken, because of his training methods.

coopsieyid

Yes i know all that with Ramos, I am half and half with Harry, i dont think he does himself any favours being a media slave. That comment about Nasri, what did it have to do with him? I bet that Nasri scores tomorrow. I dont think Levy is not going to give him much to spend as he will be gone next year, or sooner. Im the eternal optimist as far as my great club goes.

Baledout

THM, the landscape has changed dramatically, Man City were in the doldrums back then. Yet another team that we have to compete with for top-four, how easily people forget. Teams are better now and have stronger 'squads' than 4 years ago. Sorry but it's true. If the Sheik and Oligarch had never invested we'd possibly be established top-four by now. Possibly.

Chrissybwoy

Everyone on here remembers Ramos as a "failure", but we have to remember that in 1 year of English football he won as many cups as Harry has managed in about 40 years of "English Football Management". Also, Ramos won that Cup for US, without assisting bankrupting the squad into relegation!!

The Horses Mouth

when you have been supporting spurs as long as i have baleout you learn not to be an optimist and crissy thats why its all opinions not facts.

oldtimeyid

well said on both your last points horses

oldtimeyid

this cheating *****er saurez im glad we didnt get him cheating little faggot. . .and carrol get a ferking hair cut glad we missed him anoll ****

basil ramjet

Bassong = £8mil. Kaboul = £5mil. Palacios = £12mil. Pienaar = £3.5mil. Keane = £12mil. Jermain = £15mil. Pepperami = £9mil.... £64.5mil spent on players that are either not good enough for where we want to be (Palacios, Keane, Pepperami, Jermain, Pienaar), or aren't rated as good enough by our manager (Bassong, Kaboul)... God I've no right whatsoever to complain about the guy!!

coopsieyid

ive got nothing against faggots by the way. . in fact i love em

basil ramjet

ha ha, i love sarcasm, and by god your good at it coops.

oldtimeyid

and I bet you would love suarez if he was in a spurs jersey... Guy is having an unreal start to the season. Charlie Adam was another who was fantastic today.

spursftw

basil, just realised he has shady morals? I would have thought the Ghana quarter-final might have given an indication.

Chrissybwoy

when spurs were rumoured to be interested in suarez before he went to pool, plenty on here said suarez showed heart and willingness to sacrifice himself for the team by handling that ball. Now he's just a cheating mug to some of us :D

spursftw

oldtimeyid..... err do i come across as a youngster? I assure you im not! I have supported Spurs since 1967 ish. Probably not as long as you. I know Spurs are a roller coaster ride. Just in my nature. COYS!

Baledout

suarez should have been in a spurs shirt. and anybody that wears the shirt gets supported by me, even if he is a piece of **** outside footy. only exceptions is peados and rapists.

oldtimeyid

coopsie, in fairness at the time we needed Defoe, Keane and Palacios. Just because we've moved-on doesn't mean that they were poor signings at the time. At the time they were vital to us. Keane only came because Defoe got injured just after we'd signed him. It does happen to others managers, although the consistency is not as great. Ferguson has Veron, Bebe, Djemba-Djemba etc to his name. And no I'm not comparing achievements. Anyone remember Marco Boogers? Retired to live in a caravan at about 30ish. Harry gem through and through.

Chrissybwoy

baleout you do seem younger, take it as a compliment. ive been a fan since the fifties.

oldtimeyid

jose enrique is so good as well

ghulamville

oldtime, does that include suicide-bombers ;)

Chrissybwoy

Mr Wilson in advanced talks with Stoke apparently.

Baledout

oldtimeyid great to see a 65+ y/o able to operate a computer!

spursftw

lmao spursftw, so very true! But; we should also remember that when our manager had the chance to sign him he declined, stating that the guy was " too small for the Prem"!? Didn't he say the same about Modders too???? And how long was modders stuck out on the wing before being "chanced" into midfield?? How long did Bale have to wait for a chance?? Suarez would have spent most of last seaso warming the bench if he'd have signed for us,,, sadly

The Horses Mouth

I am not expecting a win tomorrow either and have to agree with Ox on a 1-1 draw at the very best. I'd play a 4-4-2, but without Defool or the Russian muppet. Gomes, BAE, Dawson (no other choice), Kaboul, Corluka, Nico, Fatboy, and he that cannot be named, Lennon, with Bale and VDV upfront. JJ and the kids on the bench. Gomes in goal, because we will give away a penalty tomorrow, (Dawson to hack down Aguero). Gomes a better shot stopper than old geeza in this situation. Still 36 games to play for though. Our season will start after the international break. No shame in losing to the champions at home. That's right, I'm picking Man C for the title! Money talks and bull**** walks, unfortunately we have the latter.

thenuge

only if its at old trafford, stamford bridge or the scum hole. lol.

oldtimeyid

spursftw, i got good grandkids who are all yids, and its 65-.

oldtimeyid

The Horses Mouth Yeh and It's quite clear Harry got that wrong, Suarez is pure quality. Dalglish is showing yet again just how good a manager he is.

spursftw

So really you only started supporting them since the very late 50's :P

spursftw

Hi oldtimeyid, i just turned 51 so you seen a bit more than me :)

philbill

true spursftw. the only club ive ever supported. saw my first game aged 4.

oldtimeyid

hi philbill, yes just a bit. seen your namesake quite a few times. thats if its based on him mate.

oldtimeyid

I should emphasise the "only". Few years longer than my dad:)

spursftw

i only had a girl so i made sure she married a yid so all my grandkids could be spoilt as yids. working so far. only rule is no names on their shirts.

oldtimeyid

oldtimeyid. You have grandkids who are all yids? My Dad, and 2 of my brothers are Gooners can you believe, hope im not banned off here now! My 4 sisters are yids though. Was born and brought up in Wood Green, a long time ago.

Baledout

Chrissy, rather than shell out all those millions of Jermain, Keane, Palacios and Pepperami. Harry could have shelled out £3.50 on Kevin Davies and he'd have had all 3 players in one. Thing is, Davies is not one of 'Arry's old boys'!!

I also agree with you about Djemb Djemba, Veron, Bebe (though Veron was one of the best players on the planet, so that's a gimme). BUT how long did those players last at Utd, under Alcy Ferguson?. I'll tell you now, it wasn't for 3 facking years mate :-(

coopsieyid

you think thats bad baleout, my piece of **** father played for the scum as a junior and when he came back from the war played for brentford, my older brother was a gooner, influenced by his father, hes mine as well its just i dont recognize him.

oldtimeyid

right on coops, ferguson would never let his mistakes cloud his judgments. if he knew he had made a mistake out they went.

oldtimeyid

Ok, I'm off for the evening now. Happy debating everyone. And oldtime - Me sarcastic?? Are you sure? ;-) COYS

coopsieyid

man after my own heart mate

oldtimeyid

oldtimeyid....wow! now that is worse!Never mind i always say to my brothers i have got the best deal with the Spurs.

Baledout

My uncle played for the Arse Colts mid fifties even though he was rank Spurs,,,,,Baled out, did you go to my schools Lordship lane juniors and Woodgreen upper ?

Born&BredSpur

I read somewhere that harry said he we only need about 3 players more and we will challenge for the title. If one of them is adebayor then I am all ears. If the next one is parker then god help us. and if the 3rd one is joe cole then I honestly fear for harry's sanity

neymar

If we sign Cahill, i'll kill myself! what a crap, overated defender.

01tottenham

coopsieyid - I respect you alot more for using jermains real name instead of 'defoo'l.

01tottenham

I think tomorrows game is vital, come away with at least a point and all will be OK. Lose again and already the season is looking shattered, not based on 2 games only but additive to ebbing confidence levels...... with Liverpool and the mighty wolves to come in the next 2

philbill

for god sake, we won't challenge for title if we did not sort out our mentality. where's the winning mentality??? instill it there our dear manager. or probably he don't know it yet.

what_sux

LANENO14 got it right earlier, we play defoe and pav up front with VDV on the right, Modric middle, Hudds behind (unless he's still not fit, then Livermore), Bale left, and retain Corluka, Dawson, Kaboul, Bae. Come on Sandro, hurry up!!!

tengboon

Please don't play Hudd tomorrow they will run rings round him he is not mobile enough play Livermore in front of the defence and tell him to stay there then let our attacking midfielders do the rest. We can beat them. COYS

Yido T

spurs 2 mancity 0 vdv to get a brace

11ledleykings

Jeezuz, we're in big trouble tomorrow, aren't we. I mean, you cannot deny how slick ManC look so far, and we're running on second-string CB's and MF's. But we've got the 12th man, the Lane faithful, we're gonna need every ounce of energy rom the stands

tengboon

Yido, you're probably right, but he seems to gag to get forward, at least Hudds will hold deep and long-pass from there.

tengboon

Have you read this stupid ITK that we're back in for Bellamy???? Come OOOONNNN, do me a favour...

tengboon

We could get hammered ...just hope Bale or VDV can sneak a goal to keep us in the game ....oh oh oh for a decent striker and then he can't play.If Pav is picked to play after his shocking display against Hearts then we are totally bu$$ered.

wentworth

PHILBILL is right, this game is crucial, we need at least a point at the Lane is we fancy any chance of grabbing top 4. No excuses about our line-up, if we reckon we're top 4, we should trust our strength in depth. But ManU we obviously are not....

tengboon

i cant wait to get to the lane tomoro wonder where adeybayor will be sitting??? known him he.ll probably where a spurs jersey to stir **** haha

11ledleykings

any good players that harry can loan us plz

afcb4life

Great posts on this article tonight, very good read. COYS!

aspurusual

Need to attack and contain....city players typically f@ck up in the second half.....so.. ---------------------------Friedel-------------------------- -----Walker-------Dawson-------Kaboul-------BAE------ --Lennon-------Livermore-------Modric-----Townsend-- -------------------VDV-------------Bale------------------- THEN ---------------------------Friedel-------------------------- -----Corluka-------Dawson-------Kaboul-------BAE------ --Lennon--------Kranjcar---------Modric--------Bale----- --------------------VDV--------------Crouch--------------- Man City will then be f@ked real nice......

dcruzer

im begining to think we should drop dawson and put corluka or bassong beside kaboul we need gallas or king back badly dawson is not good enough

11ledleykings

Believed you for a minute there dcruzer, that was until I spotted Crouch in your line up, thank god he is out injured, and hopefully soon he will be out the door.

Born&BredSpur

Maybe move Dawson up front !

Born&BredSpur

coopsie, we've coped with them for the last three games, why not this time?

jvd

---------------------Friedel-------------------- ----Walker---Dawson---Kaboul----BAE------ --Lennon--Livermore--Modric---Townsend-- -------------VDV-------------Bale------------- Then in the final half..... ---------------------Friedel-------------------- ----Walker---Dawson---Kaboul----BAE------ --Lennon---Kranjcar---Modric-----Bale------ -------------VDV---------Crouch-------------

dcruzer

Yes I,m joking about Daws, upfront, before anyone jumps on me, lol

Born&BredSpur

---------------------------Friedel-------------------------- . -----Walker-------Dawson-------Kaboul-------BAE------ . --Lennon-------Livermore-------Modric-----Townsend-- . -------------------VDV-------------Bale------------------- .

dcruzer

---------------------------Friedel-------------------------- . -----Walker-------Dawson-------Kaboul-------BAE------ . ----Lennon-----Livermore-------Modric-----Townsend-- . -------------------VDV-------------Bale------------------- .

dcruzer

Pardon me for trying so much...but just couldn't get it right so far.... Well, we can only try VDV with Bale upfront....cause that's just deadly.....finesse and pace......the man city back for would'nt know how to deal with it.....and later change it to VDV and Crouch or Kranjcar.....

dcruzer

I would play the same back 5. Maybe Corluka in for Walker. Niko Modric Huddlestone Bale VDV Defoe I acually think Bale would be great in VDV's position but then we have no winger. What you could do is put Niko on the left with Lennon on the right and drop VDV. But we all know Harry won't drop VDV.

asherthesmasher

Had to laugh at the "Ramos had sevilla playing good football" they beat us because the ref denied us a dead cert penalty at their place and they scored a silly own goal from steeeeeed at our place out played good football my arse.

Spurs Allday

Drop Lennon? Play 4411 but drop VDV the man we decided to change our formation for??? A guy that excelled in that position?? drop him play Kranjcar and one of our flop strikers and all will be rosey???

Spurs Allday

Unfortunately I don't see anything other than a City win tomorrow(hope I'm wrong). They have a settled squad with some top players who are bang on form whilst we have an unsettled CD, our CM is screwed up with injuries and the less said about the forwards the better. On top of that HR still doesn't seem to have a plan to fit VDV into a 4-4-2. We are still ******** around in the transfer market trying to land "gems" like Cole and frantically trying to sell players whilst other sides are nicely settled and beginning to gel (eg Liverpool). There are too many players in our squad who have questions marks over their future, and who therefore won't be focused on playing for the team. We may as well just have forfeit the first two games of the season anyway. Role on the end of the transfer window,so that we can finally put out a settled side and actually start competing.

Cleveland ARTSPURS

Are you talking to me Spurs all day? First of all since we all know VDV will not be dropped, i suggest we drop Lennon for this game. With Kranjcar on the right and Modric in the middle we will be able to keep possession better as well as being more creative. We should play 5 in midfield regardless whether VDV is in the side against Citeh. I just dont fancy Modric and Hudd in the middle in a 4-4-2 because Modric has only just come back and Hudd is not at his best and we dont know where Modders head is yet. I would love to see Baple play attacking midfield with his pace and strength. I was so disappointed with VDV last week.

asherthesmasher

Cleveland we are still able to field a stronger side than most and we are at home. If we set the team up right and maybe take a few chances in some positions we can win.

asherthesmasher

First thing its Allday not all day lets get that straight. Second I was commenting on all posts I'd read to get an overall opinion on what we could/should do. Kranjcar on the right? The position he is at his least effective? I think we're on the same page with Hudd him as the defensive MF against Silva, Aguero, Tevez and Nasri gives me kittens

Spurs Allday

Regarding Ramos, the Sevilla team was assembled by the DoF who in Spain is high regarded. His predecessor almost did as well with the players slightly younger and Ramos benefited from the experience. He's not anything since he left us. As for Harry, yes he did get us the Champions League, but Jol took us to back to back 5th places despite significant disruption between the two seasons. The concern about the current team is we seem to be overburdened in certain positions, and seem to be totally unsure of how to play. I am not sure Harry knows who is first XI is, and therefore should spent more time down the training pitch, than gassing to the press about things which do not concern him.

kernowboy71

11ledleyKings - 100% agree with you. i've said for months now that Dawson is overated. The thing that bugs me even more is that some spurs supporters want Cahill to sign. Open your eyes lads. Cahill is even worse.

01tottenham

KB71 what are your (in greater detail if possible) views on Kjaer and Eriksen? As you've spoken of the previously how good are they? (in particular Kjaer's defending)

Spurs Allday

no to cahill. too expensive. look abroad for cheaper and better quality. for a start look at both dortmund centre back subotic and hummels. young and pure quality.

what_sux

Again dudes....this is the best line-up for us... Friedel He's seems to be more able to deal with the pressure than Gomes (Walker-Dawson-Kaboul-BAE) We just have to hope CB's are strong&tidy & R/L B's b bold&pacey (Lennon-Kranjcar-Modric-Townsend) Lennon and Townsend for pace...Townsend will do well cause he seems to be confident and relaxed when mixed with the regular squad....Modric and Kranjcar will shine with their slick passing and hopefully be that exceptional that they will have long periods of ball possession. (Van der Vaart-Bale) In this formation VDV is a given...but with a ballsy Bale they will make a stinging and ravishing strike force..... COYS!!!! Let's get this done.....F@CK Man $hitty...

dcruzer

Friedal, Walker, Dawson, Kabaul, BAE, Lennon, Livermore, Modric, Bale, VDV and Defoe

Yido T

Kjaer has just signed for a new club. don't know who

Yido T

Kjaer gone to Roma then? heard they were in talks? what_sux subotic is a good call

Spurs Allday

Spurs Allday, Niko is not a central midfielder, that i am sure of. He is not a winger either. His best position is attacking midfield imo however we have VDV who obviously is better. Niko has mostly played inside right or left for us. Those are the positions he is most familiar with. Niko can play all across midfield with success but against good sides he will always struggle in central midfield. So if he cant play in central midfield where can he play in your opinion?

asherthesmasher

asherthesmasher- For me mate he's an option for wide left or an alternative to VDV when its not working for him (though VDV is far better in that role)

Spurs Allday

In other words he is not a first team player, a very good player yes but ahead of Modric, VDV, Bale or Lennon? in my opinion no

Spurs Allday

@Asherthesmasher. I agree that we do have a better team than most when all are fit, and we could beat City at home under those circumstances, however we have too many injuries to key players in CD and CM for me to feel confident. As you say, if we go in with a solid game plan we could be victorious, and for me the key will be to put somebody on Silva to keep him quiet and deny service to their front 1 or 2. I also think our fate may lie more in Mancini's hands then he thinks. If he reverts to type and plays cautiously, then we may stand a decent chance, but if he senses that we are there for the taking and plays 2 up top we will be in for a long afternoon. The thought of Auero running at Dawson on current form gives me palpitations. If we play 4-4-2, then I would rather see VDV play disciplined as an orthodox 2nd striker (kind of how Keane played when he was good) then just roam around, we can't afford to have the lone striker isolated as was the case against Man U.

Cleveland ARTSPURS

Born&BredSpur......No mate, as we lived in Bowes Park, Went to Bounds Green Lower School, and Rhodes Avenue Comprehensive. now called Alexandra Park off Durnsford Road. We used to play cricket against Wood Green upper.

Baledout

Shame we didn't get Diarra or Parker in for this game. Hudd looked so unfit on Thursday and Pav well say no more. Or could we play Kaboul CM and Corluka CB

Yido T

@Spurs Allday, both subotic and hummels are top defenders. subotic is more mentioned, but hummels is a slightly better defender. both are quality and young just 22. in fact, he's 10 currently in the Castrol Performance Index, highest place for defender ahead of alves. vdv is ranked 7. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castrol_Performance_Index

what_sux

if jenas gets a run tomoro i will eat my own face!!...and in reference to the article, i dont think corluka is quite there in any areas...heard we were goin in for van der weil!, hope thats true...friedel, walker, daws, kaboul, benny, lennon, tom, modric, bale, vdv, defoe...daws and tom need to pick their game up and lennon needs to look for the ball and attack more...have a feelin defoe might get one tomoro...C'MON SPURS FOR F..K SAKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

andyido

Really think hudd not ready yet

Yido T

@what_sux it makes you think "why the **** have we not bid!?" Eriksen and also Moussa Sissoko too we can easily beat the wages their on the fees aren't unreasonable what the hell is going on?

Spurs Allday

Spurs Allday, yes i'll go for moussa sissoko and yann m'vila rather than parker and eriksen rather than cole all day. our manager should look out of the box. his eye for talent is very limited.

what_sux

my nans a bus

basil ramjet

01tottenham Mertesacker imo is the best of the "available at a low price" centre halves around Europe. I would pick him over kjaer, dann, cahill, jagielka, samba et al. He would easily be, by a long way our best centre half and forge a great partnership with Kaboul...

spursftw

Mertesacker is a wonderful deal too, at just 26 years of age with 75 caps for germany, currently first team centre back for germany with 6ft 6in 1.98m available for around 10 million. freaking cheap in this inflated market.

what_sux

Yeh before two weeks ago it was rumoured he was available for 6 million pound. But I would suspect that the price isn't that anymore. 1 year left on contract, I really hope we get him before window shut, but no rumours at all.. wishful thinking I guess. Also he's almost 27 :)

spursftw

Bundesliga has alot of talents i like and cheaper than the english market, be in defenders like mertesacker, hummels, subotic or strikers like demba cisse, son heung-min or even attacking midfielders like gotze, marin, kagawa.

what_sux

Meh apparently he's quoted to saying he'll see out his contract with bremen. Wouldn't believe it for a second though. I dont think wenger will sign him, too much trouble in the past with non PL experienced centre backs. Which is why he's heavily linked with cahill/jagielka. Hope Levy realises how big a steal Per is and tries to strike a deal before Wednesday evening with bremen.

spursftw

Love the dream-team thinkers that assume anyone we could bid for would instantly join us, no questions asked. Don't let Football Manager deter you from how the real world works, some people need to have a word with themselves. Your crystal ball is class, but it hasn't got you a Euro-millions win yet, so lets not assume that you are world-wise because you talk about if, but, maybe, possibly, definitely, not likely. I'm not sure Sissoko and Eriksen grew up thinking that playing for Tottenham was the pinnacle of achievement. Can we all pluck names out of a hat that wouldn't join us but in our own small fictional world sound ok? I want Figo back as RW. True story.

Chrissybwoy

spursftw, hopefully we can do a miracle there, he's certainly a quality defender judging by the age and the number of caps he have for germany at just 26.

what_sux

Chrissybwoy it's better than pretending to be happy with signing peter crouch. And being close to signing scott parker and interested in joe cole. I mean, we really don't want to end up being a one season wonder now do we? Or are you ok with that? Sounds like you are if you don't consider any of these players a remote possibility.

spursftw

we're just talking about players we hope our club can try to bid for. i know we may not get him, but at least we try. we should try to move our clubs upwards, and not just standing still. i guess we should target players like parker, cole, beckham, neville then, so we can get them easier?!

what_sux

spursftw, who has pretended to be happy with the signing of Crouch? I'm also not and never have been in favour of signing Parker or Cole. I made a point about random transfer names, not only was it a point, it was on point.

Chrissybwoy

Cleveland, I would love to see VDV stay higher up the pitch anyway(4-4-1-1). I am sick of seeing VDV receiving the ball from our defenders two yards in front of them. However, he might be needed to drop back against Citeh because they will overrun Hudd and Modric.

asherthesmasher

they're just sayin who they think we shud buy...anyway, why wudnt they want to sign for tottenham, its not exactly a big step down from 'wender bremen'

andyido

Breaking news from inside source. Modric not playing today. Same ol'injury. The plot thickens. . . Hmm . . .du bist interestia.

rios tm

Heard a rumour from a Croatian paper that Modric might not play again? He has trained, but under extreme pressure from the Croatian team management. He is still sulking bigtime, but I would also think he's genuinely afraid and embarrassed to be playing in front of the home fans.Rightly so. I'm thinking if he doesn't play today then he will sit out the season by going on strike.This could get very ugly.What an idiot he's turned out to be. What I will emphasise here is that he also signed a 10 year contract one season before left Dinamo, so he definately doesn't think along normal lines obviously.Like then he thought he was doing the club a favour by getting them more money.But it has backfired badly on him this time around.Very naive to begin with, and then just pathetic behaviour since.It will be painful veiwing tonight either way

pompman

"heard a rumour from a Croatian paper". Sounds legitimate, 100% factual and should be treated as absolute gospel by all concerned. You do know that Jesus said "follow me", but in the garden of Gethsemane he also said "wait here". Truth be told, I'm really not sure who or what to believe anymore. May the Croatian rags be my bible. Err.

Chrissybwoy

rios tm, where did you hear his rumor from ?

sydqcb5

I see in today's paper that Chelski is offering 40m. Honestly 40m is a good deal for Modric. May be squeeze out more from the chelski's scums.
One more report I came across today is Kaka to Spurs on loan.
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/view/208261/Levy-plot-to-snatch-ace-Kaka/
40m Cash + Kaka for Modric is Unreal.
If Modric doesnt play today, he has got to be sold. Get the cash and invest in some young talents like Ganso, Eriksen

sydqcb5

syd, you don't really believe everything that people type on here do you? I have word from people who know that Modric will play today. One of us is talking b()llocks though, which one?

Chrissybwoy

Chrissy, its not about believing. Most rumors are untrue, what I dont want is us facing the same situation of Berbatov. I see official website saying Modric will play, which is good enough for me. If he doesnt play, he has got to be sold, unfortunately.

sydqcb5

I see this RIOS TM is a Chelsea Scum. Now I know what is the source of rumor. Go to Vital chelski and

sydqcb5

Syd 40m IS a good deal for Modric. But It's now way too late to be selling Modric (Our most important player). Very little to no time to buy or negotiate with adequate replacements. Chelsea should have got a move on and made this 'realistic' offer weeks ago. They've left it way too late i'm afraid. This would be repeating the mistakes of the Berbatov transfer.

strawboy

strawboy, agreed, especially when we are down to barebones in midfield. I dont know who will play in DMF role. Though Hudd is good, he looked too bad against Hearts. We have got a real defensive probelm. I wont be srprised if we give away another 3 goals this time.

sydqcb5

Sorry folks, but with the pathetic Modric debacle, and the lack of transfer activity to bring in good players, our "Year of Titanic" is starting early!!!!

canadianraptor

What a dickhead you are Chrissybwoy.Just saying cause I read it in a Croatian paper that you were.So it must be true eh.K N O B

pompman

More ITK talk - Spurs will finalise the deal for Diarra on wednesday and expect two further signings. Sarge and crouch to complete move to stoke on tuesday. Personally i doubt this will happen!!

woodyn17

This post is not to offend any Spurs supporter other than a certain Chrissybwoy @Chrissybwoy- You are such a fecking asshole. You should be ashamed of yourself about the comment you made on Drogba's injury. I hope you get a similar kind of injury one day.

the_blue_world

We have to remember, City & Mancini play the big games (against top 5) now, as not to lose, so City will be a defensive tactic / shape, and will hit us on the counter attack. Tevez and Silva very dangerous. My team would be, Gomes, Charlie, (sub by walker, if we are behind in second half) Daws, Kabul, BAE, Lennon, Hudd, Modric, Bale, VDV, (sub niko) Pav (Defoe sub 55 / 60 as he to run around their defense as they tire a bit) This game we need full concentration 90+ mins. and 110% effort from all players... this means you Hudd. Modric, Pav (i know he will score a goal!) Lennon So our shape, is 442 which suits us best, or 433, or 4231 as a switch mid game.

Block D Spurs

Interesting to see such a split on the result!!

woodyn17

Right guys - whats you prediction for the top 6 in order this year?? Heres Mine: Man Utd Man City Spurs (crazy i know) Chelsea Liverpool LE Scum. I know some of you will call me a crazy fool but our season doesn't start to me until after the break. We will be a different team once the modders saga settles down. I just feel with Adebayor and hopefully another striker we will be a great team, plus once gallas and King are fit - what a defensive unit!! A midfield of Bale, Modders, Sandro and VDV/Lennon and Ade + another signing and all is rosy!!! COYS!!!

woodyn17

Woodyn, I agree, lets all hope you are right mate...depends on Harry & Coaches, (Jordon & Bond) getting his / their crucial start / mid game tactical moves / subs. perfected as well!! COYS

Block D Spurs

If we get Diarra & Parker, how do we keep Sandro happy if Modric is staying? If we assume Bale & Lennon start most games. Not to mention Hudd & Pienaar. I'm still concerned that Modric leaves on deadline day if Chelsea come over the top with 40m+, it makes Levy look like the god guy all along, when infact I reckon this was the plan all along. Hope im wrong on that one but well done to Levy IF he still says not for sale. I dont understand why Chelsea dont just bid for Sneider if they're prepared to pay over 35m, perhaps he doesnt want to go to chelsea, which is understandable, they're no Man utd are they

DJW

DJW - I think Sandro cemented his place in the team last year. Think he will be first choice pick alongside Mod. Good point though regarding Levy.

woodyn17

wut_sux -Good call, Subotic is a top class player that would fit right in at spurs. Spursftw - the only thing that Mertesacker lacks is pace otherwise he would be a great signing. But i have to agree i would take him over Cahill, Dann and Jagielka anyday.

01tottenham

woodyn, yeah Sandro will get back in team once fit again, so the same question is raised about Parker and Diarra. I don't mind Parker signing if he realises he isn't a first pick every week. We aren't in same position as Utd and City, in that we can get away with leaving players on the bench every wk. I wasn't knocking Levy and realise he does a good job within his remit, which ultimately comes from Joe Lewis I would imagine, would be interesting to know what our owner's input really is, given that he never goes to games, I'd imagine he leaves most of it up to Levy as the caretaker

DJW

I think you have it about right Block D. I expect us to see alot of the ball, but will find them extremely difficult to break down, while they try to hit us on the counter.

Guyver

Guyver, yes, and I will be at the game to see if it turns out as we think, followed by by brief summary when i get home after the game as usual. (can't disappoint my no.1 reader madabout.. lol) COYS

Block D Spurs

djw we started with a midfield of livermoore and kranjcar against united so although we may have hudd modd and sandro there is a very good chance that at least one of them will be injured at any 1 time leaving 3 to fight for 2 and with good rotation and competition for places i believe it will improve us dramatically plus if vdv gets injured then we can have 2 holding and move modders up to the hole

spurticus87

Kjaer is maybe the best young defender in Europe on the left hand side and would be perfect to replace King/Gallas. Apparently he was due to go to Roma, for a loan to permanent type deal but that has fallen through. £12m should get him. As for Eriksen .... all I can say is Modric who? ... he is that good.

kernowboy71

Are we being linked to Eriksen again? from what i've heard he would be an amazing signing despite his age and inexperience

DJW

Cheers KB71 knew you'd know lol seen a few clips of Eriksen he would be an amazing coup, Kjaer from the limited footage i've seen looks very much like a "Spurs" CB

Spurs Allday

Eriksen has clearly stated he wants to stay with Ajax for another year to learn. And Ajax still need him and don't wanna sell. So why are you still talking about him? You guys are starting to sound like friggin' Chelsea who can't get it through their thick skulls when they are told Modric is not for sale.

troynew

troynew Ajax are in (extremely) serious debt they'd have to sell, and all players say they're happy but as soon as they see their new contract they suddenly feel up for the move

Spurs Allday

I would say Eriksen is better than Modric was when we signed him, but 4 years younger than Modric was. I'm impressed because he's a proper central midfielder, almost understated class, similar to Modric. He's just brilliant, not for his age, I don't even want to bring his age into it, just brilliant.

bernio3000

Chrissybwoy reading most of your comments and how you responded to the drogba injury I can see your opinion should be taken with a pinch of salt.

spursftw

We will get embarrassed today, I'm actually scared to go watch the game.

Tottenham Hotcore

1-3 hotcore... But still doubting us getting a goal :(

spursftw

We have a better chance if Modric plays and is on his game but I would love the King to be on the pitch today if he lead us out suddenly the world would be a much better place

Spurs Allday

Ox, from what I've seen, it looks like Walker tucks in a bit more naturaly than Corluka. I think that aspect of his game will begin to show it's value, as he gains experience. For now though, it's a very tight call between those two.

LizardSpur

CONCERNED AND HELP NEEDED!! After thursday's game, I was uncertain with regards to a problem, yes guys, a problem in the bedroom gymnastics department. So i visited my Doctor and explained the symptoms - I told him, Yes i have interest, but I have no energy, my movements are slow, I can't look her in the eye and i just keep missing the target and it's becoming frustrating, to which the Doctor had it nailed straight away, He asked, your a Spurs Fan correct, yes i replied, your suffering from the ''Roman Pavlyuchenko Sydrome'' It's a common complaint and will go away soon, so please don't worry. Phew thank god for that.

spu 4 life

Have to say, dreading this game. City are brimming with confidence and player for player have the best squad in the league by a country mile. Still, it's at WHL so we have a chance as always. Could be a horrible start to the season though, even our "easy games" against Wolves and Wigan, both are away from home. 2 points from 8 games? :P

bernio3000

Sandro starting running midweek - should be back after the international break. YAY!

COYS_TSB

well i don't whether this is good or bad news but scott parker has been left out of the hammers team today in anticipation of his move to tottenham( ssn) so whether we like it or not looks like he's on his way.

superspur74

@Spurs Allday: TPTB at Ajax are well aware that if they sell Eriksen they can kiss their chances of becoming champions twice in a row goodbye (impossible to find an adequate replacement in time). I very much doubt they are prepared to do that for the amount Spurs would be willing to pay for him. Ajax's financial situation isn't that bad compared to most 1st and 2nd tier Dutch clubs. If they were desperate they'd ask the city of Amsterdam to help them out (like Eindhoven did with PSV recently) before they'd consider selling off one of the few star players they've got left prematurely. And they would have demanded more for Stekelenburg when AS Roma came knocking.

troynew

and now we only have about 30 minutes to find out whether berbatov mark 2 plays for us today.

superspur74

This is very off topic, but in light of Joey Barton's recent move to QPR, I wonder what the odds are for Adel Taarabt to be murdered this season.

bernio3000

@Spu 4 life: Funny, but Roman Pavlyuchenko Syndrome is a lingering, chronic condition, not something you can shrug off like a death threat from a fist clenching blind midget stomping his little feet in frustration. ;-)

troynew

Can Harry target someone we have not seen on match of the day ? Some gems out there but Harry only wants tried, tested,safe & reliable .If Harry was in charge when Modric was available we would have never taken a risk with him ,but it`s these players that take you where you want to go .Players like Friedel ,Parker ,Pienaar ,J,Cole, DO NOT .C`mon Harry think outside the box

big cockeral

MODRIC- KRANJCAR STARTS....and ....Crouch ! today

sydqcb5

Modric starts! ;0)

GlennAmy

STARTING XI - Friedel; Corluka, Dawson, Kaboul, Assou-Ekotto; Lennon, Kranjcar, Modric, Bale; Van der Vaart, Crouch.

sydqcb5

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE tell me the Bellamy rumours aren`t true .If they`ve never appeared on Match of the day Harry is not interested

big cockeral

Where the feck is Gomes ???

sydqcb5

SUBS - Cudicini, Bassong, Walker, Huddlestone, Livermore, Defoe, Pavlyuchenko.

sydqcb5

WTF?!? 2MP is in the starting line-up. No Defoe or Pav.

troynew

Crouchy to play his last spurs game ,perhaps ?

sydqcb5

Wonder will kranj be ripped apart like he was against utd.

spursftw

anywhere i can see live coverage?

Singspurs

nasri starts

spursftw

what is the formation? 4-2-3-1?

Singspurs

city xi - Hart,zabeletta,lescott,kompany,clichy,Barry, Toure, Nasri,Silva,Aguero,Dzeko

sydqcb5

OMG, I am absolutely begging for a good live link, any help my fellow yids?

tengboon

Looks like we're keeping Crouch then...great.

bernio3000

you're a bit early tengboon

spursftw

Hello all. Our team have their work cut out for them today. That line up of City is very impressive. We are at home and previously they were our bunny team. Still, not optimistic. We need to put in 100%, everyone , good tactics from HR and the crowd right behind us as 12th man. COYS!!!!!

Madaboutspurs

yap, i need a live link.... anyone/?

Singspurs

Man, this is gonna be a tough game.... hope it's Crouchy's last for us.

tengboon

SANDRO Tweets : I on the way to tottenham stadion to watch the game . Come on you spurs.
Good news if he is coming back for training...

sydqcb5

Disappointed Crouch is playing, but we know Defoe and VDV dont seem to work, ans Pav is playing rubbish so far this season. Will be interesting to see how Modric and Krank do in the middle of the park, a bit bold.

Ossie

What's required, 3pts massive bonus; 1pt ok not all bad, nothing out of it and it's ( . )^( . ) 's up again......I get a feeling for a CROUCH hat trick today....don't ask me why, i'm sobber as well......:-)

spu 4 life

Spursftw, I was so looking forward to watching this game on TV, and last minute I got called up for a gig, have laptop in the DJ booth, it's my only hope!

tengboon

i find playing crouch strange as he hasnt played much preseason!!!

spurat

http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/

But you wont find a reliable stream for about 35 mins or so.

spursftw

Thats a very attacking lineup we have there lol

Guyver

Link - http://www.norwaysport.co.uk/

sydqcb5

Download sopcast now if you havent already tengboon. They've imprved alot this season. Atleast for me.

spursftw

Usain Bolt disqualified lol

spursftw

or sober, but then i like a double, rather then a single........

spu 4 life

If we get one point in this game, it is a BIG boost for us. Dawson & Kaboul HAS to do their job today. They are going to be ripped apart, I fear.

sydqcb5

SPURSFTW many thanks for that, will try around kick-off fingers crossed. Sopcast is not Mac compatible though, is it?

tengboon

spursftw, any decent sop links? Bit lost since myp2p went kaput.

bernio3000

Yeah SYD, it's looking grim, is Modric supposed to lay further back as a DM, or is Krancjar? Or are they going all out on attack, very interesting. I think safe to say one result that won't happen is a nil-nil draw.

tengboon

There is workarounds for it. Like most software, but it might be more hassle than its worth. I'll see what browser links I can find closer to the match that work well. If you google sopcast mac there are guides which show you how to get it on OSX.

spursftw

Install veetle if you want the link to work

sydqcb5

spursftw, I was merely yanking a few chains, standard. I said nothing disrespectful about Drogba and posted my tongue-in-cheek comment after I knew he was fine so no harm done. If people can't take a bit of light-hearted humour then they are quite welcome to blow me.

Chrissybwoy

tengboon, well,with the injury list this is the best XI we could have put.

sydqcb5

Channel - 6816

I have that stored as a reliable link for todays match bernio3000, but not sure if it will be or not. Remember to allow the stream to build up (look at the green bar anything over 70 is usually going to be good).

spursftw

You showed no respect chrissybwoy. Doesn't matter if he ended up ok. You might think you weren't disrespecting drogba, but pretty much everyone who replied to you (including spurs fans) disagreed strongly. Now I have nothing more to say to you.

spursftw

That spocast channel is currently showing Newcastle Fulham match.

spursftw

That's the YES channel isn't it? Usually very good.

bernio3000

found this site, not sure how reliable it will be

Guyver

But because it has a tottenham hotspur badge on it, blocking the channel name I sincerely expect it to show tottenham v city.

spursftw

http://www.asiaplatetv.com/

Guyver

Thanks to sydqcb5 and spursftw, both great links.

bernio3000

Yeah, I'd imagine it'd switch over spursftw.

bernio3000

Use --- http://www.footballstreaming.info/ click free football first row is pretty good, your get adds to start with then they go when you hit full screen

spu 4 life

Yeh pretty sure it is bernio, dont want to check :P

spursftw

Modric and Krank ?? Not sure about that one a bit light weight for me. Has Palacious deal gone through then ????

Nate LuvsSpurs

http://209.44.113.146/

Thats an oldie, Rojadirecta. Still has great links so if all else fails for people wanting to get browser streams try that.

spursftw

i heard modric said he'll stay and play only if kranj is with him in the middle...

spurat

spursftw, if you can't take a joke then poor, poor you. Didn't realise the world was full of over-sensitive people. I made a comment about him constantly feigning injury, it's not like I said I wish he'd died or something for christ's sake. If you think that is disrespectful then you can get *****ed you helmet.

Chrissybwoy

http://magic-tv.co/?page_id=10

Browser stream that will be showing the spurs match. Looks quality.

spursftw

"After a career of going down in the box softly for a big man, I wasn't shocked to see him up to his old tricks again. After a life-time of cheating, shouldn't he have just for once got up and carried on in the good spirit of our game? Shame on the man for once again bringing the spirit of the Premier League into disrepute. Fair enough the man has history, but to use it to try and influence the referee is nothing short of a disgrace. Cheating has no place in our beautiful game. Chrissybwoy Read more: http://www.chelsea.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=524940#yoursay#ixzz1WKD9plT3" Defend it all you want but you're a joke...

spursftw

This game will really show how we are. Last year 0-0 but we totally outplayed them just our big problem of not being able to score. So have we gone backwards?

Forever Spurs

crouch is an obvious choice, defoe has been poor and crouchy has a knack of scoring in these city vs Spurs games, who is our third available striker again? crapulenko?

ohwellnextseason

** i misspelt defoe. i meant defeato. or defool. or whatever nickname is going round. Ill take crouch over defoe anyday, atleast you dont expect much with crouchy.

ohwellnextseason

http://veetle.com/index.php/channel/view#4e5a2e5832757

coopsieyid

Ooh maybe you shouldn't take life too seriously spursftw. Does anyone else want to take issue with what I wrote? I'm open to abuse.

Chrissybwoy

OR take your pick from here.. http://veetle.com/index.php/listing/index/sports/popular/0#sports/popular/2

coopsieyid

http://magic-tv.co/?page_id=10

Perfect quality :)

spursftw

Coys. I bet Bale has a good game today! maybe sets up the winner...

ohwellnextseason

Crouchino!!!!

zombie-greavsie

Let's hope Crouch's knack for scoring in these games doesn't produce another own goal.

zombie-greavsie

Chrissybwoy the fact you're ok to be open to abuse is laughable.

spursftw

JUst got in and seen the line up and our CM is going to get ripped to shreads!!! Who is going to break up play FFS?? Niko got ripped apart against Man utd and Man City are stronger that theirs!! Livermore would be more of a presence. Well done harry for picking a team which has no chance!!! AM FECKED OFF ALREADY!! God help my wife!!!

woodyn17

Don't like the midfield pairing but is fairness others are not available or in the case of Thudd do not look fit yet. Our hope is to cause citeh so many problems they are forced to worry about us rather than just try to stop the front four they have

Forever Spurs

Spursftw, shame it seems that site doesn't exist?? Wonder if it's a Chrome issue...

tengboon

A midfield pairing of Kranjcar and Modric (especially if he coasts, we'll see) is either brave or stupid but might be forced through injuries I guess.

warner__

Chrissybwoy -your normally a good poster so why are you being a complete bellend regarding Drogba ? it wasn`t funny or clever

big cockeral

lol man city starting 11 cost 3 times as much as spurs.

spursftw

tengboon i'm using google chrome currently watching match on http://magic-tv.co/?page_id=10

spursftw

its not on ffin SKY im ruined

Nate LuvsSpurs

Go to this link and pick any channel you like :) http://www.kofss-stream.tv/

philbill

City look really dangerous, this is going to be a long afternoon

philbill

ESPN commentators are funny... "Dawson can make a great pass across to gareth barry and bae is great running up that wing with the england left winger" LOL

spursftw

Commentator I'm listening to just said Spurs best chance for success is to use "Gareth Bary the England winger who is well supported by Ekotto". Where the hell do they get these guys?

warner__

City getting a lot of yellow cards so far

warner__

What a miss from bale... ******** hell....

spursftw

Crouch's heading ability is embarrasing, poor from you

Nate LuvsSpurs

bugger

philbill

phuck!!! dzecko scores

neymar

Kaboul lost his man AGAIN!!!!

woodyn17

35 mins gone lennon and bale creating nothing for us

neymar

wish they'd show the handball

spursftw

cant see us scoring against these phuckers, they are playing us off the park

neymar

we're putting no pressure on the ball, just standing off watching them do their pretty passing

Guyver

I think this is the begining of the end for twitchy redknapp I hope we sack him crouch is crap

E17YID

vdv close!!!

neymar

this spurs team is very very poor

E17YID

great ball bale!!!!! crouch you phucken uselless how did you miss that!!!!!

neymar

Damn!!

coopsieyid

5 goals conceeded by friedel great keeper huh REDKNAPP has got to be sacked W.A.N.K.E.R

E17YID

dzeko header 2-0. 5hit!!! they are toying with us

neymar

are you ffin kidin me kaboul is getin buggered rite now

Nate LuvsSpurs

Oh dear this could be embarassing, just as i feared

philbill

Coops, we are showing our class we are relegation form already.

E17YID

kaboul ball watching as dzeko scores

neymar

E17YID Would surprisingly disagree with you... we've been playing very well, hardly deserve to be losing let alone 2-0 down.

spursftw

Could never see Crouch scoring a goal like that.. thats the difference between the 2 teams

Guyver

shocking so shocking from spurs disgusting performance again

E17YID

LOVELY TO SEE CROUCH MISS AND STILL HAVE A BIG SMILE ON HIS FACE, SHOWS HE CARES...PHUCKING TO$$ER

spu 4 life

I honestly thought we'd steamroll City when I saw Crouch was in the team. He's been an 'ever-present' during all pre-season, been electric in every game so far, tore Utd to $hit, and I honestly thought he'd carry on his form this week.. Oh well, if only I predicted we'd get battered :-(.. Glad Harry got his team selection right though!!

coopsieyid

Our problem is we cannot deal with counter attacking football. Thats 5 goals scored against us from counter attacks... Looking today I don't think kaboul is even good enough, let alone dawson.

spursftw

wont be surprised if possession is 70/30 to man *****ty.

neymar

And atleast Parker will be announced as a Spurs player tomorrow. Yay :-(

coopsieyid

where are all the supporters who defend redknapp now ... Redknapp has got to go along with crouch, dawson

E17YID

i feel another 2 points from 8 games comin on.

spurfect one

THANK YOU NIKO KRANJCAR AND GOODNIGHT

spu 4 life

city win a corner out of absolutely nothing

neymar

Really, they are just high quality goals. City playing well as a team nowadays, unlike 2 years ago when we beat them to 4th.

Madaboutspurs

bellamy will be in joe cole parker ***** he is getting his west ham team together

E17YID

the saddest thing is you look at our bench and realize that there is nobody who can come on and change anything.

RagingSpur

How come all thos overpaid people who run the club have never been able to see what we can. Scoring goals wins games. City strikers are several classes above ours. DOn't blame Modric for wanting to go...expect Bale will be next out the door

Forever Spurs

Still, we can't be greedy. We've had 3 league wins since 12th February. What more could we ask for??

coopsieyid

Why does VDV take the corners still, we have learnt nothing from last season, every corner has been crap

philbill

Spurfect, as sad as it is I want us to lose to make Levy sack Redknapp.

E17YID

please someone take vdv away from set plays.

spurfect one

I honestly dont know how many headers Kaboul and Dawson have won vs the opposing attackers...

RagingSpur

47 mins bale fantastic run and shot. corner. phuck u vdv. the poes cant take corners but he is always taking it! phuck, straight to joe heart. harry please sub vdv, crouch and krancjar. PLEASE!!!!

neymar

kaboulhas clearly cost us this game, poor positioning for both goals, lack of concentration and poor touch

123spurs

Yes they were both quality, although questions could be raised about defending. BUT, both goals came from counter attacks. The first one, remains to be seen if we should have got a penalty. The second came off of heavy attack from spurs.

spursftw

You can kind of see why Modric wants to leave to be fair

Guyver

Levy isnt sacking HR...win or lose. If he does the players he is great with like Bale and Modric will for sure find the exit door then.

RagingSpur

Niko will have to go off. Typical Crouch! I hate City. I HATE FU(KIN' CITY!!!!

zombie-greavsie

Redknapp I think is losing the players and as lost more then 50% of the fans as you can hear from teh boo's disgraceful team selection why on earth friedel is playing I do not know .. 5 goals conceeded in less then 2 games relegation is a worry for me now.

E17YID

bale is shocking not int hte game at all doesnt look fit, lennon is also shocking

123spurs

crouch is damn freaking lousy who missed a sitter from close range from a fantastic drilled cross from bale. how the hell is he still here?

what_sux

desperately need ade to start firing when he's fit and for those complaining about friedel admittedly the 1st today gomes prob would've been sharp enough to save but last week and the 2nd to day were all very good goals

Boom Boom Boom!

E17 Yid, i dont think levy will do that now leaving us two games in the season leaving without a manager, but its not looking good, especially with his transfer targets.

spurfect one

I may have reached the point of no return :-(... E17, mate. We're well and truly phucked!!

coopsieyid

half time and thank god. we were totally outplayed. no fire in the belly, useless strikers and a ***** defense. old trafford all over again. defenders ball watching as dzeko, aquerro, nasri and the ex valencia guy run riot

neymar

This is exactly why we needed heavy investment and a complete overhaul. Pathetic how we crumble under pressure. Absolutely pathetic. Adebayor won't save us, neither will Parker. This is a deep, deep problem for Spurs. Quantity over quality for far too many years, finally biting us on the arse.

bernio3000

Adebayor would have scored that chance. Crouch to Stoke tomorrow, please.

zombie-greavsie

modric hasnt made a decent tackle...f this

spurat

That says it all really, Dzeko gets 2 crosses played into him and scores both of them. Crouch gets the easiest chance of the half for either team and misses.......VdV corners are getting appalling now which i must admit is something id never thought id say.......Dawson in No Mans Land for the first goal, Kaboul ball watching on #2........Niko and Luka practically out of the game due to how much chasing they are doing, Lennon and Bale have had few chances. Just tough to watch so far, Bale and Crouch HAD to score

YankeeSpur23

coops we need a player like parker at the moment

123spurs

and to make things worse, the basterd who was sharing the link to our game, goes and switches over to Wet Spam :-(.. Anybody elses link gone down??

coopsieyid

We need another striker before Wednsday, Ade won't be enough. Sick of VDV and Crouch up front. I'd rather see Kane up front, at least he'd have a better chance than the beanpole.

zombie-greavsie

Coops mate, you have been banging on for a long trime that ole twitchy has to go ... last straw for me was when he called us idiots ... I hope Levy see's sense and gets rid of Redknapp we are phucked as you said with him in control he will ruin us .. mid table if lucky he does it to all teams West ham Southampton Portsmouth ... he is now doing it to us.

E17YID

No protection for the back four is suicide.

LizardSpur

Predictable, but what a load of rubbish in the effort department. Bale, Krank, VDV are shocking. There is no team-spirit, no effort and as for Crouch as anything other than a wall, what a bloo*y miss, and still he grins! Hopeless, and if Harry doesn't put a rocket up their backsides to at least keep a clean sheet second half then sack the lot of them.

Harry-Kari

e17 is on a rant that does not even make sense. Considering half our team is injuried i dont know what his lineup looks like...besides that there is a gap in quality from us to city.

RagingSpur

and before anyone one starts giving it the barry, i prefer gomes to friedel aswell he jus needs to get the consistency he had in the season we got 4th back and hopefully the fact that friedel's been given the nod in the prem so far will make him step it up

Boom Boom Boom!

Taking last weeks goals and this weeks, can't deal with crosses and slack marking in the box, dawson and kaboul look lost, kaboul should have got up with Dzeko and nutted him in the face...

spu 4 life

Just sell Modric and pocket the money Levy you ****. WTF is the point of keeping him if we are not going to spend money! Just pocket it...I told all of you before that we are closer to mid-table then top 4. Sadly Modric still looks the best in our side....

RagingSpur

Adebayor gets injured or loses form and we're back to square one. Needed an overhaul, didn't get one, this could be a very, very bad season for us.

bernio3000

Agree with you 100% Harry-Kari.

zombie-greavsie

How can ANYONE blame Friedel, if you are you are clearly clueless. How could either of those goals be his fault?? E17 Yid i have no idea how you can have a go at Friedel, get a clue man. He's saved every shot thats been near him. Maybe if we didnt allow easy chances across the face of goal he would have a chance. He isnt Gumby man

YankeeSpur23

get kaboul off!

spurswede

***** I took Leon Best off my fantasy football team...... SIGH

spursftw

OMG You guys FFS wake up,we have played well against Cithey & for 70 minutes we played well against Utd, if we had taken our chances in these games it would have been an entirely different story, what we need is a couple of class Strikers, only in the 2 years we have needed this there has been NONE AVAIALBLE, just look at Suarez, Dzeko, Auguero or Carrol none of them have gone anywhere there clubs won't sell. LOL.

Seriously good as Redknapp is he either doesn't have the bottle to spend the money we need to be able to compete or can't pursaude Levy to spend it, whatever the case it isn't working and I am fed up of all of it, just typical.

COYS!

stu_u2k

we have had to start the season by playing the two top teams in the PL. No big deal if we lose today IMO. City are on a completely different level now, look at their options FFS. They are an immensely physical team with a very strong defensive backbone and now they have an array of attacking options that are simply unthinkable. They were warming up tevez and balotelli just in case aguero and dzeko didn't score. dzeko is absolute class and both goals were classic striker goals. The good news is that modric is still immense so hopefully we can keep him and citys new status means they are happy to strengthen us - adebayor will be a fantastic addition, and they have seriously weakened arsenal judging by nasri's performance today. Thats the cost of city beating us easily. We can challenge for top4, but we will be up against arsenal and liverpool. city should win the league with their squad now

Guernman

Yankeespur. I have every right to blame him his postioning is poor he is getting flat footed to much ... conceeded 5 goals in less the 135 mins is shocking ... thanks to your mate Harry.

E17YID

This isnt even about the players, this is about the system and style of football we play, or lack of. Before the game, Harry said he wanted Crouch to play because he works well with VDV, ie VDV reads his knock downs. Then he said with Crouch's height and 2 wingers in the side we can cause them problems. Yes the same Crouch who scored how many goals last season? So thats our game plan then.. down the wings cross to Crouch hope for knock downs.. while Citeh dance around us with stylish passing and great movement. Man for man they arent that much better than us, but their style of play is, because Mancini knows what he's doing tactically. Our style is primitive.

Guyver

The only way we have any chance is if we change our formation to match city's.....there front 4 is ridiculous. Any team would be lucky to have one or two of them but those 4 together is embarrassingly good. too good infact for us today. We need a quick goal here or we might get roasted today boys.

YankeeSpur23

fantastic drilled cross from bale and the inept crouch misses it.

what_sux

LizardSpur, again though, would that solve things? We look soft in the middle but phuck me, dealing with crosses? This is what frightens me, City have played well with their build ups, but essentially the end product has been the same as what Matt Jarvis or Jermaine Pennant, Matt Etherington or Stewart Downing can produce. We could get phucking slaughtered this season. This one will be another heavy defeat, two on the bounce against teams we should be up there with. Deep problems, I say again, we needed an overhaul.

bernio3000

Now you see why nobody wanted V.D.V .Real Madrid begged clubs to take him but now you can see why they said thanks ,but no thanks .On the ball he looks class at times but off the ball he does nothing .And why does he have to take everything ??.Also Modric has to go ,his head & heart clearly not in it ,looks a shadow of the player we all once loved .

big cockeral

Stop blaming Friedel, he kept us in the game with some excellent finger tip saves. Just like the united game, all it takes it a curling cross and our centre halves bottle it.

zombie-greavsie

did you see any player in the world can smile widely after a sitter miss? ONLY CROUCH DOES! get him out of the team for goodness sake man

what_sux

all is not lost but this is where the manager earns his money. he's team is being outplayed and he has to do something to get back init but redknapp is too dense to organise a winning game plan. I can see city destroying us in the 2nd half. and this on our own patch!!! it's gonna be a long season. 7 goals against and nil for after only 2 games.

neymar

Corners are literally useless for us with VDV putting worthless balls everytime.

sydqcb5

BUT BRAD FRIEDEL IS A HARRY BUY.

****MUST CRITICISE HARRY BUYS.****

spursftw

Where are the amazing signings to lift our spirits? This is dangerous, we could end up with another shiiiiiiit start like in 2008.

zombie-greavsie

I just remembered one other thing, WE SOLD DARREN BENT! Oh how I would like him playing right now over what we have.

stu_u2k

we are being overun in midfield, u cannot have 2 gus out so wide wen they have 3-4 in the middle, Modric and Krank have no cover and protection. would be a different game if we had Sandro fit and King and Gallas. Remember guys we are facing a world class team with a lot of 1st team players out, however harry has to change tactics. i would play as the away side for 2nd half and go 451 with Defoe, if we dont it could be 4 or 5-0

philbill

Keeping Harry in charge was a bad error by Levy .He`s done well but now outstaying his welcome .The team has gone stale & needs freshening up ,only a new manager can bring that .Once players stop performing for the manager then it`s game over

big cockeral

Got to stay positive, Crouch for a hat trick!!!!!!

zombie-greavsie

Bernio, no time for an overhaul now. Fu(kin' joke!

zombie-greavsie

no wonder Luka wants out, this isn't team play, it's only individuals playing without clear idea.

marilor

stu_u2k, I'm fully awake, don't need to wake up. You're correct, we've played well against City, we played well against United...sorry, but that means jack s**t if they score from every bloody cross. The end result and scorelines are all that matter. 3-0 to United and City look like running away with this one, 0-2 at half time.

bernio3000

I have switched it off I really cant be arsed to watch Redknapps tottenham ...

E17YID

hudd on for kranc

neymar

F@ck U 'Arry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F@ck U 'Arry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F@ck U 'Arry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F@ck U 'Arry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F@ck U 'Arry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! F@ck U 'Arry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Well at least now Levy may see the light and sack that team-phucker!!!!

dcruzer

WE lost this game before it started. You cannot play Manchester clubs without ball winners in midfield. You will get over run. Dont select players who cannot hit barn doors, yet alone a goal net. Crouch omg, Bale is out of it. 0-2 at half time contrary to the Spurs website who think Spurs are 2 nil up!!! Bloody hopeless again. Why do we sign players too late, AFTER the season starts, its STUPID, its DISASTER, its RIDICULOUS, .............unhappy you bet I am !!!

allancomeonyouspurs

why would you switch the match off.. come on seriously, support through the ***** and the good mate.

spursftw

oh my god crouch is soooo useless

neymar

Crouch makes Lescott look world class !!!!!!!!!!! That good huh

allancomeonyouspurs

Raging spur and who's fault is it we dont have a proper team ... keeping King perm injured Gallas 34 to old now .... playing crouch when crap playing a hooofer ie dawson ... who has not brought any improvement into tottenham .

E17YID

bernio3000 you are right and I agree, but playing well tells us we don't need a complete new team as many suggest, I mean the defense must wonder why they bother with our inability to score, not to mention if we had of scored with Crouch city would not have been able to break, same when Lennon failed to find VdV against Man U.

stu_u2k

if we can score one then we back init but we cant even get out of our own half atm

neymar

Spursftw, I am going have a anurisum with the pathetic performance from this team. watching Scooby doo now!!

E17YID

How f..ing useless is Lennon.........

SsSpurSs

spursftw i thought u was talking absolute ***** the other day writing off youngster after their 1st 60 mins of first team football for the club but you've made some pretty good points today, keep it up fella lol

Boom Boom Boom!

e17, levy has plenty money to spend...we wont now...we wont unless he can find the cheapest bargain buy on the market

RagingSpur

Why did lennon take another touch???

philbill

Bit harsh, but atleast I'll remember you as being quite fickle.. We don't support spurs because they're champions, or the best team in the league... We support spurs coz they're spurs. It's ok to be annoyed with X player or Redknapp, but shouldn't mean you just stop watching the match. Where were you when we were finishing in the bottom half of the table? You must have only watched a handful of matches back then mate :S

spursftw

dzeko close again

neymar

lennon injured. defoe on for lennon

neymar

ppl moan that football players are primadonas but a lot of fans on this site are drama queens man city are a completely different animal from last season they've now won a trophy and have spent big again and are on great form any team would find it difficult playing them at the moment

Boom Boom Boom!

what a gulf between Scottish Football, Spurs Football, and Good Football, Spurs you play crap ................ alaln *****ed off big time

allancomeonyouspurs

great just turn back on to see Defool come on who cant score against big teams ... glad to see lennon off not exactly setting the team alight

E17YID

You guys need to quit crying and face the reality. We are not anywhere near as good as City or the other top 4 teams. So just shut up already...we are not top 4...we were once! We didn't go spend money and that is the concenqunces of why we cant keep up anymore and why our best wants to leave.

RagingSpur

Its just too easy

philbill

I'm actually getting sick of watching this kak!!!!! dzeko hattrick!!!!

neymar

FFS

spurfect one

Ftw, I support spurs but it annoys me when an idiot is dragging or team down with bizzare signings

E17YID

Don't worry about pushing out from the corner guys, only City. FFS!

stu_u2k

Dont worry guys we played well for 70 min vs Man U and good for 20 minutes vs City ;)

RagingSpur

Boom Boom Boom! Ah if there's anything I've learnt is that we can all be a bit irrational, I don't think some of the young lads possess the quality to make it in spurs' first team (funny I know considering the quality that isn't in the side at the moment) but yeh I was certainly a bit harsh.

spursftw

3- nil

Singspurs

yep, and now Lennon has had enough of being Redknapp's scapegoat. WTF has VDV done? Yet it's Azza who HAS TO come off??. WTF has Modder Focker done?. Yet he HAS TO stay on. Pepperami?? Oh no, he HAS TO stay on too. Now we've got Jermain on, it's the 'Harry's boys club' day out... 3-0.. And here I was thinking we could match them man for man LMFAO. When are some of you going to bloody well wake up? Our club will be ruined by the useless chancer we've got in charge of our team. Bottom of the league, feel good fellas??

coopsieyid

0-3 ... alarm bells should be ringing ni Levy's ears .... Redknapp has took us backforwards not forward.

E17YID

Don't worry guys, Harry said we could win the league. Bahahahaha!!!

zombie-greavsie

amazing, we are losing all the 50-50's

neymar

Coops, no point anymore .... this is so shocking I am speechless .... how on earth can he be left to Fock up our team.

E17YID

any supporter who does not want Spurs to win win win and is resigned to lose lose lose, is NOT a true supporter, else we might as all give up and be just ball watchers ..Raging Spur I am Raging Mad, with this disgraceful performance once again

allancomeonyouspurs

Our CBs are world class.

RagingSpur

4-nil

Singspurs

Kaboul again.

stu_u2k

u know wots strange about the dzeko thing is that we wouldnt stump up the 30mil that wolfsburg wanted that summer yet 6 months later city take him for 27mil and then we happily bid 38's for rossi, llorente etc.

Boom Boom Boom!

Dawson for England

spursftw

harry jou ma se poes!!! just phuck off!!! you are out of your depth and your signing sare *****!!!!!

neymar

i cant take this

Nate LuvsSpurs

omg

Guyver

aguerro 4-0. dawson and friedel useless phuckers!!!

neymar

Uh oh! 4-nil. Great fighting spirit by our team.

zombie-greavsie

Oh dear, we look totally outclassed

philbill

Haha 0-4 at home. I feel for you guys

Rip The Reds Apart

i hate the negativity but dawson is *****

Nate LuvsSpurs

with 30 min to go...we are due to concede more with this type of performance.

RagingSpur

RIPPED APART

spurfect one

CLASS STRIKER is something that Redknapp doesnt know anything about.

E17YID

DAWSON & KABOUL GO FECK EACH OTHER

sydqcb5

Who's going to get sent off from the spurs team?

zombie-greavsie

Great to hear the spurs supporters still singing, ******** hell 4-0 down and still singing!

spursftw

4-0 this is not just Man City good, this is Spurs have no midfield, no defence, no forwards, its an insult to their supporters, its a disgrace

allancomeonyouspurs

legs of a newly born calf

Nate LuvsSpurs

Make that 4 facking 0 :-(.. Time to take the positives. atleast aguero has got me some dreamteam points.. Now we're not only bottom, but we're on a goal difference of -7, after 2 facking games, and there's still half an hour to go... The rest of you ready to get real yet, and accept our team has ABSOLUTELY NO GUIDANCE?? Atleast we can look forward to the post match interview with Harry. "Well what can you say? We can't compete with them, look at the money they've got, look at the wages they pay. But we've never had it so good, I'd like to think we can finish close to that top 4"... God he's a facking Prick!!

coopsieyid

c'mon city, make it 6-0 so that harry can phuck off

neymar

2 points from 8 anyone?? Bye bye HR!!!

woodyn17

Stoke would give citeh a better game with inferior players, Harry got alot of explaining to do.

Guyver

We're all getting a bit carried away here, we had a good spell where we competed quite well with them.........I think it's called HALF TIME!

TQ2Spurs

BLODY HELL - Anybody seen the very first post on this article? That guy REALLY knows his stuff!!

coopsieyid

This will end up 6 or 7 nil. We are going backwards as a club. No spirit or quality at all. Will end up mid table unless things change and sadly Harry and Daniel Levy have done **** all about it.

mattyspur

MODRIC OFF

big cockeral

We need Ron Atkinson!!

zombie-greavsie

neymar I thought exactly the same !!! REdknapp has to go now we cant afford to leave him in charge for 6 more games we will be left to far behind!!

E17YID

I can honestly say that if HR and DL do not go out and spend some cash you can kiss goodbye to the top half let alone the top 4!!! As a spurs fan i feel totally gutted and ashamed by our club. 2 seasons ago we were above these ****s!!! Where has the money and drive gone??? Harry U ****!!! 4-1 big deal!!

woodyn17

To see scenes like that with Modric, I'm not saying it's wrong, but it's a sad day all round at Spurs.

LizardSpur

Was that an effort on target? OMG Kaboul!

stu_u2k

With deadline day on Wednesday, should the club fail to bring in at least 3 class players I see Rafa Benitez in pretty soon. A club with our ambitions should not be doing last minute deals for players in the first place. We should have had the first team done and dusted by the second game of preseason. If you stand still, you inevitably move backwards.

BlackStar Spur

Who was that bloke who said we was gonig to battered Coops outrageous he knows what he is talking about.

E17YID

modders off livermore on. kaboul scores!!!!!!

neymar

WE'RE BACK IN THE GAME GUYS KABOUL TO SCORE 5 OKAYS?

spursftw

Look at that.. We've seen 2 guys bought off, and neither of them could look Redknapp in the eye, or even acknowledge that he is there. Yep, Harry has a real special bond with his players!!

coopsieyid

And AGAIN, a defender shows our useless facking strikers where the back of the net is!

coopsieyid

gooooaaaal

Singspurs

bale brilliant but no support!!!!!

neymar

crouchie u watching?

Boom Boom Boom!

comeon woodyn17... at least we've scored

Singspurs

Funny to see remotely positive posts on here after we got one... I think one is about all we can hope for....

spursftw

huddlestone u slow fat phuck!!!

neymar

Harry got the tactics wrong against, like Guvyer said. We need Sandro, King & Gallas back asap and get in Diarra.

Ossie

Bring on STOKE then that will end our involvement in another trophy

allancomeonyouspurs

defoe!!!!!! saved by hart!!!!!

neymar

DEFOE HITS WITH POWER AGAIN......

spursftw

this one is over city are coasting it in 3rd gear for the rest of the match. anyway there needs to be some kind of buy before wednesday if we really want to have any hope this season or we might as well sell

RagingSpur

crouch u useless, useless, useless phuck!!!

neymar

Crouch really is crap, he just does not do anything in the air wen in the box

philbill

VdV faking an injury, what a *****er

spursftw

Stick Kaboul upfront ,much better there than Crouch

big cockeral

at least defoe looks like he wants to score

Nate LuvsSpurs

cant believe crouch and vdv is still on the pitch. vdv walks off the pitch now and we already have our 3 subs on the pitch!!!we are playing with 10 men!!! phuck u stupid harry!!!

neymar

wait, I take that back. He might not be faking it I dont know but he doesnt even let the physio have a look he just walks off. Now 10 men for 15 mins...

spursftw

FFS now VAART cant do nothing down to 10 men cant blame him going off game is lost.

E17YID

We are down to 10?? VDV walked off

philbill

E17YID I thought you were watching scooby doo?

spursftw

Oh woe is me......what a fecking shambles!

TQ2Spurs

defoe is on fire!!! def our best player

neymar

spursftw, come on I cant not watching I turned over but its psurs run through my blood cant not watch them u no exactly what I mean~!!!!

E17YID

if its his hamstring staying on the pitch will only lengthen the amount of time he is out for

Boom Boom Boom!

Come On Spurs.

sydqcb5

V.D.V & Harry will come to blows with this one .Remember when Lennon did similar

big cockeral

Atleast our goal difference is only -6 now!!.

coopsieyid

we are soooooooo KAK u wouldn't believe!!!!!!!

neymar

Well I mean we do have scott parker joining. Atleast he's adept with relegation battles.

spursftw

we need 442 back this vdv experiment aint doing it for me anymore

Nate LuvsSpurs

Livermore and defoe are playing well

philbill

we still have a 100% record played 2 lost 2 and -6 !!

E17YID

I dont like parker but please spurs, sign that boy, we need a someone with passion because harry's boys are terrible!!!

neymar

adept at losing them spursftw

Guyver

Redknapp told defoe to kick the ball really hard, so thats what defoe is doing.

spursftw

BigC - Do you REALLY think VDV and Twitch will come to blows over this??. Or do you just expect Harry to stand infront of the SSN camera and say "Yeah Rafa had to go off because he's done an amstring and it was for the best"??

coopsieyid

Clueless, gutless and useless. ****-off Levy for leaving us so depleted in key positions, sorry Harry, been a big fan but you really are clueless so time to move on and take that "coaching staff" with you and the medical staff as well what with Lennon injured again and (thank goodness) VDV as well. Always going to be difficult but whar a bunch of disinterested, non-performing, multi-millionaires, laughing called our team.

Harry-Kari

On this performance would like to see a defender to come in, as Dawson and Kaboul (the same combination used to Ramos) is just not the lick, and another striker as Crouch just is not a goal threat, and Pav is just Pav (hopeful both be sold)

Ossie

great run kaboul but crouch is a pathetic POES!!! he should never play for spurs again

neymar

dzeko almost 4, great save friedel

neymar

crouch useless again

neymar

Atleast Crouch has earnt, and deserved his 90 minutes today!!

coopsieyid

Shocking team selection by Harry. How can you start Van der Vaart, Krancjar and Modric together in the middle? Come back Ossie all is forgive, because at least you played a token defensive player.

kernowboy71

TBF I said 3-1 to city, I'm not far off!

spursftw

When was the last time a team came to WHL and had 21 goal attempts, love to know

philbill

Coopsie yeah see what you`re saying but i expect a war of words with them 2 .V.D.V is not good for our team .As for Crouch man i hate that player more than ever ,get rid asap

big cockeral

what was THAT dawson?

neymar

congrats to any spurs fan still watching this by the way :)

Guyver

Okay, far be it from me to want to see you lot do well but how can Harry keep going on about needing more forwards and midfielders when you have such glaring holes in defense?? I mean your CB's shouldn't instill more fear in their own supporters than the opposition's forwards, should they? We got a CB in Alex who looks like he's on his way to Juve for about 9M and he would do more for you lot finishing in the top 4 than any forward or midfielder you could ever hope to sign. At the very least, Dzeko would have been in with the physio repairing his broken nose about 15 minutes ago....

1cfcfaninLA

why wouldnt you still watch it guyver? didnt you hear the spurs fans??? They're why I love this club.

spursftw

Redknapp Out?

Seanmccan

Great shot Dawson!!!

zombie-greavsie

It's all a bit painful for me :-( The commentator said that last season, Tevez scored more than all 4 of our strikers combined......and Tevez is on their bench!!

Madaboutspurs

totally gutted!!! Anyone remember the last time we were beat this comprehensively at home??? We have been made to look like hearts!!!

woodyn17

its hard to watch thats why spursftw, not nice seeing your team absolutely outplayed.

Guyver

Spurs the players and the management you should face a vote of NO CONFIDENCE you are not HOT Spurs you are cold as ice spurs

allancomeonyouspurs

The worrying thing is our form has taken off were it ended last season, terrible. I know people will say we have played probably the best 2 teams in the country but its the manner of the performances. Disgruntled and incohesive.

spurfect one

1st corner by Bale and best I seen at WHL for a while

philbill

Redknapp should have gone 2 months ago .The signs were there & all too obvious

big cockeral

Hard to watch yes but still watchable.

spursftw

I wish vdv's injury keeps him out for remainder of the season because we are so kak with him and crouch it's beyond funny

neymar

i know, im watching it lol

Guyver

*sigh*

Guyver

oh dear

Singspurs

get in Kjaer, goin to roma for 7mil!

James237

what a goal by dzeko

spursftw

ffs!!!

woodyn17

dzeko brilliant 1-5 in the last minute

neymar

BigC - I just can't see Harry standing upto VDV. Though I hope he soes, and get's his fackin ghead smashed in.. Come on Harry lovers. Excuse this result, this display, those strikers, that team shape, that team selection etc etc etc.. I'm ashamed!!

coopsieyid

awful result today, i know we have played both manc teams but to lose 3 nil and 5 -1 is just not acceptable but it gives us a reality check we needed, we just aint good enough with the current players to compete at the top level. COYS

gavspur67

would love to see harry go down the tunnel and smack vdv one

MrJ70

Spurs 1 - Man City 5..........Spurs YOU ARE A DISGRACE, you are quality of the lowest order

allancomeonyouspurs

as disappointing as this is u cant argue against the quality of city wot a *****in goal that was and then theres us and our one-dimensional strikers

Boom Boom Boom!

Any body notice how much better we looked with 2 out and out strikers. I would sacrifice VDV and play with adey and defoe up front.

spurfect one

Morale is pretty low methinks.

zombie-greavsie

The only credit I can give to redknapp is for shaking mancini's hand. After that I have nothing more to say, enough people on here will say what I'm thinking anyway.

spursftw

Weren't we looking to sign Dzeko? Hmmmmm

zombie-greavsie

hope levy see this

Singspurs

Interesting to see who we will sign now??? If you were Modric you would be really *****ed off!! 8 goals conceded in 2 games with 1 scored??? If Bale and Modders want to go let them as we are a shower of *****e!! What will HR say now!!!

woodyn17

Yep, if this scoreline and the fact that City rang rings around us for large parts of the match doesn'r emphasize the fact that Spurs needs several defenders and another couple of good strikers then I don't know what will. Adebayor may be a good addition...we'll see but on his own is just not enough. That header that Crouch missed? I hope that he just slinks away in shame.

kevmeist

VDV should be dropped. I don't care if it's in his contract that he has to start when fit. He should have consulted the physio about his injury, instead he strormed down the tunnel like a spoilt brat.

zombie-greavsie

Zombie-Greavsie: We were apparently, but lets be honest, Man City would have blown us out of the water with regard to transfer fee & wages lol.

Mex_yiddo

I'm off for a toke, to calm the ***** down a bit!!

coopsieyid

I wonder what Adebayor is thinking?

Also pretty sure that signals the end of Modric in a Spurs shirt.

stu_u2k

and that's probably the best I've seen an opposing team play at the lane. ever!!!

neymar

That's the truth right there gavspurs67!!

Ossie

"we passed it, we moved it, bull*****, bull*****. bull***** city have millions to spend we cant compete"

Boom Boom Boom!

One positive, were not going to be facing the likes of both manchester clubs everyweek. This result shows we will most probably end up between 6th and 9th.

spurfect one

@boom..boom...we have strikers? Defoe did hit a couple of decent shots but other than that........

kevmeist

we missed out on the signing of dzeko and suarez and now we're stuck in the worse striker in the world name crouch who missed sitters and fouls and can still smile broadly.

what_sux

I dfo wish this site would stop auto-playing videos with audio ON.

kevmeist

Can't see those signings clamoring to get into our squad with that result.

tengboon

Hats off to Livermore, Defoe, and Kaboul for trying when the chips were down. There's something seriously wrong behind the scenes, where was the fight we have come to expect from this squad? I know Dzeko was pure class today, but we should have battled harder at one nil.

zombie-greavsie

I said it earlier before the game started we needed a point from this, our season is already shattered because of the zero confidence from here on and dont be surprised if we are down fighting for our Prem status this season, City were good but we gave them too much space as we have no DM players fit, the tactics need to change or we are in big trouble.....

philbill

kernowboy, I agree, I was thinking we would get slaughtered with a kamikaze midfield like that. I was right...

spurswede

I'm afraid filthy lucre and plenty of it is the only way to get into the Champion's league. Still, no way would I like spurs to be owned by someone like Abramovich.

zombie-greavsie

We were utterly completely outplayed outfought, outmuscled, outmanoevred, outcoached, outthought etc etc by this City team. Even before the game, their line up, for lack of a better word, was just plain scary. If we are going to callenge for top 4 at all, we have to get in reinforcement and it's gotta be good. Parker and players in his callibre won't do. Gosh that was really painful to watch.

Madaboutspurs

with a clinical striker or two, a decent pair of CBs and a fit sandro we woulda been great ;)

MrJ70

Benitez in by Halloween LOL. I would say Christmas but it looks like going downhill fast. The remaining days of this transfer window are now crucial to any success we might have this season

BlackStar Spur

Well, Livermore & Defoe were the only players fighting in the pitch in the second half. Disgraceful Defending. Kaboul, Dawson gave away 3 goals, Lennon didnt track Nasri & Corluka could ve done better for the one of the goals and BAE made a defensive lapse leading upto 5th. I guess we need Alex Mccleish or Hodgson or some Italian coach to organise the defense. There was no shape in the defense. Dreadful defending.

sydqcb5

Kjaer's move to Roma is in doubt - get on that ******** phone to Wolfsburg Levy NOW!!!!!

kernowboy71

for god sake, just pull the trigger on our manager. as a manager he's tactically inept and he don't know how to do. he's plan a hit it to crouch. no plan b

what_sux

@MrJ70...woulda, coulda, shoulda though, right?

kevmeist

Chin up lads - on the bright side, 'arry most certainly has a convincing argument to take to Levy about the need for new players. Expected us to win, but not by that scoreline!

fifthcolumnblue

we need defenders who aren't lying around eating grapes in the treatment room all the time, and some steel in midfield!

spurswede

WE LOOKED FU CKING SH IT

oi.you.there

most players will be dishearted.... lose 5 at home ground.... it's something to think about... i will affect the games to come...

Singspurs

levy has a convincing argument to sack redknapp you mean fifthcolumnblue.

spursftw

what a shambles, what a disgrace, well done City, Spurs you were lily livered not lily white

allancomeonyouspurs

@madabout...agreed

kevmeist

Levy has to get out the cheque book, starting tomorrow. We need to get a centre half, another striker, and two midfielders.

zombie-greavsie

levy has a convincing argument to sack redknapp you mean fifthcolumnblue.

spursftw

What do guys reckon to the modric substitution?

MrJ70

international break now ... Sack Redknapp ... get new man in and let him do what he can with squad and get his men in during the Jan window.

E17YID

I`m confused Coopsie we cant beat them because of the players they have available but its all Redknapps fault? Did he impose the wage structure or hold the purse strings?

TalentfromGod

Completely outclassed in every department, we could have had 15 players on the pitch and still not get close to them, 2 games gone 8 goals against 1 for, nil points.........add that to the end of last season, we have until wednesday @ 11pm to secure at least one if not two strong defenders, some midfield players who have some spunk about them, because this lot is weak as a cup of cold pi$$

spu 4 life

I agree that our form took a major dive towards the end of last season and we are just continuing on from there. You'd think more work and thought regarding our game was worked on in the preseason. Aren't we paying HR something like 3.5mil pounds per year.

Just a question to my esteemed fellow posters. Is this heavy loss really down to Levy or should we also attribute the loss signifcantly down to the players underperforming and also to this impressive City team :-(

Madaboutspurs

Modric just not match fit? But why...has he not been training with the rest of the players?

kevmeist

If Arsenal don't get spanked by at least as much as we did by Man U, then that kind of shows it's not the high quality of our opposition but rather the dreadful quality we are at the moment. GRIM.

tengboon

We could have signed Dzeko, but who needs the likes of him when you have CROUCH. When Zidane was at Bordeaux, Blackburn manager at the time Ray Harford wanted to sign him, the owner Jack Walker replied "Why do you want to sign Zidane when we have Tim Sherwood?" Which leads me onto my next point, Sherwood and all these coaches we have need to go. Ive seen no evidence of them having any positive impact on our play. Harry also doesnt seem to know what he's doing tactically, but then he doesnt think tactics are important according to a few quotes from VDV.. so no surprise there.

Guyver

I can't be the only one who thought this game was lost in the team selection? Modric & Kranjcar in the centre, against Man City? I know we are short of players at the mo, but c'mon... Defensive protection from our midfield was non existant, and Modric, who is normally a good worker defensively was letting players run off him all game! Just expecting Kaboul & Dawson to step up and sort it out for him. Surely Livermore, who would of tracked runners till his legs dropped off and put himself between Man City & our defense, would have been a better option? Even a half fit Huddlestone would of atleast gave his all and gave VDV a shout to do some bloody defensive work.

Mex_yiddo

kevmeist i agree maybe 2 decent shots but its the times when he tries smashing through bodies, which he does all the time, that makes me wanna punch him in the face repeatedly and he cant pass and last season he couldnt score which for me is all he can do, and thats usually only against lowl level opposition anyway and crouch aargh dont even start me off on him and pav the only one who can be half decent against any opposition is a lazy ***** who only turns up now n again but he's still the best we got not counting ade

Boom Boom Boom!

4 midfielders Injured in first home game for Spurs-Niko,Lennon,Modric&VDV. 5 goals let in by defense. Only goal scored by a defender

Says it all. Unfit Midfielders, Defenders who score goals & Forwards who forgot their boots.

sydqcb5

we did not miss out on dzeko or suarez. suarez always stated he wanted to play for liverpool, it was a done deal. dzeko actually wrote to city to ask them to buy him. he is on about four times our highest earner. come on people. they are not playing the same game here. they have UMLIMITED money. we cannot expect to compete with city anymore. at least they have weakéned arsenal. dzeko was out of this world today. I would rather see gomes in goal though. friedel will not make the howlers but gomes makes saves no else can. as for VDV, I would rather he gets treatment right away then make an injury worse by playing through when we are completely out of the game.

Guernman

How very sad to see us lose at home by that score. I feel sorry for the true fans who spent their hard earned dosh to witness another capitulation. This has been a terrible week for the club.

zombie-greavsie

mrj70, Simples, his head werent fully focused, thats why he was subbed, i can so see the sense now of selling modric for 30 million and buying another quality striker.

spurfect one

If stoke want to pay 20m for palacios and crouch, i suggest they are driven up on monday morning, put shawcross in the car for the return journey..........

spu 4 life

Guyver how could we have signed Dzeko? we couldnt match City`s fee or wages. Its a soft excuse. City are now out of our league. The reason is simple vast amounts of money

TalentfromGod

Madaboutspurs, losing as we did has nothing to do with citeh. This is the same Spurs that couldnt beat the likes of West Ham last season..

Guyver

Is HR losing the dressing room? Is that why there is not 100% effort on the lads part? At least not every game is going to be like that but there are no easy games in the league.

Madaboutspurs

Hard not to react to our poor start but Harry just has no tactical know how.... Lennon/Crouch have been awful for a long time and Corluka against the pace City had was asking for trouble! When you watch there is no pattern or ideas 442 is needed with 2 holding midfield players!

kenspur

Yeppers, sydqcb5...agreed...it makes one wonder why we support Spurs, doesn't it. You would think I would have worked that having supported them for 50+ years, wouldn't you?

kevmeist

Good point, Guernman. There is no level playing field between us and City/Chelsea. As you rightly pointed out, we can only hope to compete with Arsenal and Liverpool now.

zombie-greavsie

Sorry I meant to say earlier...Is this heavy loss really down to HR, not Levy as I incorrectly typed. I am just so frazzled by the loss I am all confused.

Madaboutspurs

talentfromgod, I recall us being in for him before citeh were even interested, but I could be wrong. We def recently turned down Suarez though.. so same logic applies

Guyver

To think we had them at the city of Manchester stadium last April and at home this time last year. We had no luck in front of goal and beanpole did the rest.

zombie-greavsie

Mex_yiddo, good to see you. Couldn't agree more with your post.

LizardSpur

paddypower

Livermore looked sharp, thats the only positive in the whole game.

sydqcb5

LOL ( I am amazed I can lol), there are almost 200 Vital Spurs members logged in at the moment to express their grief.

Madaboutspurs

now we're picking up the leftover players real madrid, manchester city do not want tells you the story. crouch should not played anymore, he's poor.

what_sux

Wish we still had Woodgate.......

kenspur

Harry doesn't control the purse strings but he does pick the side. Even youngsters like Livermore, Tom Carroll or Dean Parrett would have better fitted the DM role or moved Kaboul up and brought Bassong in. It was Harry who decided the team to pick today TalentfromGod, and tried to bang square pegs into round holes. You don't stick guys who won't/can't tackle into positions where they leave our defense completely exposed.

kernowboy71

@mad...I'm heading off to the tissue box right now.

kevmeist

We need a few transfer miracles to lift the club in the next few days. I certainly can't see any major signings happening besides Parker. We must admit guys that we are punching well above our weight and today finally showed we are now being left behind. It's still a long season to go but this tough run of games so early may kill any chance of the team gaining momentum.

zombie-greavsie

i know why our defenders are poor, it's when training our strikers are damn pathetic

what_sux

Maybe we do need Parker after today's game...but I'm still not convinced about him.

kevmeist

problem is paddypower, is you cant bank on this spurs team getting points against the lesser sides. I personally wouldnt bet on us getting an away win against Wolves. The team just look flat.

Guyver

our best player? i guess none.

what_sux

This is what happens when we pi$$ around for nearly 3 months, not buying any half decent, will to win players, our lot look slow, un-fit, injuries are caused because of it, lennon, same as before looks like his groin, vdv hamstring or front thigh muscle, nico can't be a hamstring you have to run to pull that, poor and very poor, we can't compete with what we have, so something has to give.............

spu 4 life

Kb71, I don't really like criticising tactics, but I have to agree with your posts as well. The starting line-up was madness.

LizardSpur

having said that we were poor all round, who still thinks that we dont need parker and/or diarra?

paddypower

There is a general mentality around the team that lacks spirit and fight when behind, did you once see Dawson our captain encouraging any Spurs player to battle and pull his ginger out.. No Which says it all really. With hudd and Livermore we looked better with 10 than we did with 11. for me its the tactics we use to accommodate VDV that has been hurting us for a long time now, it also adds to less chances for the strikers than would occur in a 442. As a Spurs fan I am gutted, and think its time for the old slogan "Back to Basics" go for 442 for nexr few matches and get some points on the board....

philbill

we need diarra. parker no too old wages too high.

what_sux

no I agree guyver, but it is a bit early for people to start saying that the manager has to go,

paddypower

even though city and manu totally annihilated us and we can't have many excuses, 3 factors played a major role in our poor start: 1. indecisiveness in the transfer market to sign a top striker and defender. 2. sandro getting injured. 3. the modric to chelsea saga. take your pick which had the greatest impact. but which ever the reasons, levy and harry can hang their heads in shame because they have not only disappointed the club and the fans but they have undone all the good work of the last 6 or so years in which we established ourselves as a very young and exciting team. now we have the leagues oldest keeper, our best player wans to leave, we are looking to sign 30 year olds instead of buying young and we have the *****test strikers in the division. it's gonna be a long season but if harry can get the sack early on, it might not be all lost yet

neymar

We need to forget the first 2 games against United & City and just move on. 6 points lost. Way we lost the games is questionable, but we have to forget and put things behind and get on with it. Honestly, with this City side any team can get a tapping on the day.
We need defensive midfielders, we need Strikers, we need defenders. Levy, stop bullSh**ting and get on with signing some good players.

sydqcb5

Anyone think that Friedel is regretting his move...maybe he thought that he would have a defense in front of him?

kevmeist

lol *finger

philbill

1)Our defence needs reinforcements. Dawson and Kaboul is not good enough and not experienced enough to be our main 2 defenders and I am a big fan of both 2)Without Friedel, we would have conceded more 3)Our players do not look very fit when pit against this City machine 4)We seem lost at the final third of the field, not many ideas. 5) We definitely play better 442, no doubt in my mind 6) We need another good striker and I am not sure Bellamy is the answer 7) If what syd said is true and 4 players are injured, then our fitness, conditioning coaches have a lot to answer for 8)I sense that the comraderie within the squad is not that strong anymore. It's all a bit fragmented.

Madaboutspurs

I hope this settles the Chelsea vs Spurs, bigger club debate.

foreign_viewer

I hope this settles the Chelsea vs Spurs, bigger club debate.

foreign_viewer

Anyway i'm off, see you all in the week, i hope by then we have some new players, Ade put in a good weeks training, because if you don't start next week i will be amazed............

spu 4 life

PMSL "pull his ginger out"? Oh, that takes some of the pain away! Thank you philbill!

Mex_yiddo

maybe paddy, but that poor run of form at the end of last season, combined with a possible bad start to this season is very worrying.

Guyver

we need winning mentality. we need training in positioning discipline and set piece training .do it manager, i hope you have not lost the dressing room, have you?

what_sux

just heard on sky that the commentators for the mancs arsenal game saying that according to big sam, scott parker will join us in 24 hours!!! yay!!! wonder why I am not jumping for joy?

neymar

@foreign_viewer I dont normally rise to that sort of rubbish, but I will say come on here and say that when you have played City, on what i have seen Chelski will get a beating as well...

philbill

agree spurfect one there's a lot of sense in the idea of moving him on now and spending the sizeable amount of dosh on some quality, something tells me we need it

MrJ70

Parker will be good cover for when Modric joins Chelsea! ;)

SouthEastBlue

@neymar...because, like me, you are not convinced about Parker. If he comes to Spurs, I sure hope that will be proved wrong. Maybe he is not another Pienaar (a total waste of space even before he joined Spurs).

kevmeist

To me, one moment said did it all. Lescott & Kompany were passing the ball between themselves for some 10 touches, before the slouch crouch came ambling towards them. City were simply toying with us.

sydqcb5

andy townsend and alan curbishley really questioning whether arsene wenger might be in deep trouble at le-arse. maybe we can swop managers? lol

neymar

As several others have pointed out our slide began back in about february and in now accelerating.

Forever Spurs

2 points in 8 games? i guess someone is trying to break the record

what_sux

Here they come. Ignore them fellow SPURS supporters. Don't bite.

Madaboutspurs

If this latest bid of £40m is actually true we would be stupid to turn it down! I thought Modric was going to go about his business in his usual way today and expected to see the usual hard working playmaker buzzing about midfield. Instead, we got a poor imitation. If this performance today is what we have coming for this season then take £40m and laugh yourself to sleep Levy because he isnt worth £4m to us if he plays like that!

Mex_yiddo

Surely none of you can still be in denial, we have played 2 games, conceded 7 goals and have scored 1 by a CB. I don't give a toss who we have played, we shouldn't get stuffed like this in 2 games, particularly a home game by 5-1. It is nothing other than a total disgrace, is anybody surprised that Modric, and no doubt others in January, want to go. We have gone through a 3 month window in the full knowledge that we were in dire need for 2 strikers, a quality CB, and a decent DMFer to back up Sandro (now injured) or to play as a 2 DMFers in games like today's. With 3 days to go of this window we have so far signed a free GK, we have borrowed a striker, and we are struggling to sign the required MFers (Parker or/and Diarra), how can you face City with Modric and Kranjcar as you're CMFers, and with no sign of a CB. We have hardly started the season, and we have half a side out injured, why? these include our friend VDV, who has never been fit since he came, how many times has he played 6 on the bounce. I will say again we are looking down the barrel of a long hard season of struggle. After a CL run into the last 8 grossing £40M, we have failed to show the required level of ambition, determination, and committment to even maintain a vaguely competitive position, whilst all around us, have spent significantly and strengthened, with exception of Arsenal. It's time to admit that we will inevitably slide into mid-table obscurity, whilst ENIC and Daniel Levy are in control of this club. They don't run a football club, they run a savings bank, that is not the same thing. With Wolves (A) and Liverpool to come, we may well be firmly fixed in the bottom 3 come mid September, and people still say "in Levy we trust", it's a sad sick joke.

Frank

Chelsea trolls in Vitalspurs? Well I never!

zombie-greavsie

Redknapp was considering bringing Suarez to Tottenham in the January transfer window but decided not to pursue the 24-year-old, who then ended up at Liverpool. "We kept looking at (Suarez) but people thought he couldn't play up as a striker," Redknapp said, adding that he had sent numerous scouts to watch the Uruguayan at Ajax. "They said he's like Rafa (van der Vaart) and you can't have him and Rafa or you'd have two players who want to drop deep, so that was the problem. "We were looking for someone to play up front with Rafa. People said he couldn't do that, he drifts and comes deep. "But he played up front on his own the other night (against Fulham) and he was fantastic."

so he turns down talent, but cant wait to sign the likes of Parker and Crouch.. seriously

Guyver

philbill maybe if they'd all got their gingers out it may have distracted citeh enough for us to score a few while they were laughing. and thx for making me smile for the first time since 2-0 down

MrJ70

agree with big cockeral, end of last season with the players we have got we should of got into the champs league, a better more tactical manager wld of so arry shld of gone due to all this england talk and not being able to get the best out the players. after today who will blame modders for going!!!! we need to start with better CB's , and coach them to be awake!!!

spudace

Absolute massacare and was always on the cards as soon as Kranjcar, Modric with Rafa floating was picked in CM against, Nasri, Auguero, Toure, Barry & Silva. Naive isnt the word. Reminds me of aour powder puff CMs of the 90s when it was like parting of the read sea. FFS make yourself solid first and then add in the qulity. Surely Palcios would have helped shore up the CM in the last two games. Bloody tamping!

gatch75

gatch75: I think Palacios is one of the injured army of players patrolling WHL on their crutches!

Mex_yiddo

agree kevmeist. If you can pinpoint where things went wrong for us then you can go back to the jan window when we signed pienaar instead of a top striker and we signed a rookie CB (khumalo) instead of a top CB

neymar

Guyver, I am in no way defending HR on the Suarez issue but I think they had to consider price as well. That was a good post Frank but I still think with our current squad we'll confortable sit between 5th to 10th. Ok, not from today's display but it's gotta get better...right?

Madaboutspurs

What a total disaster.How many goals have our strikers scored in the Prem????????I was asking this all last season and we are asking again!! We knew last Jan that we were rubbish up front and we're still rubbish up front which means that the team is under enormous pressure from the start.I thought Crouch was abysmal today....he's got to go now.Dzeko was outstanding and scored from anywhere.What we could do with a striker who is good in the air,brave ans can score!!!!!!!!!!!!Pav also has to go ....such a lazy wimp as we saw the other night.An embarrassment to Spurs.So lest's give away Crouch,Palacios,Pav,Bentley,Jenas, Hutton, Bassong etc.What are they doing at WHL ffs????????????????????????????

wentworth

still laughing philbill

MrJ70

Question. Can anyone name a striker who regularly starts for any other premier league club who wouldn't be a welcome addition at WHL? Cos I can't think of any

MrJ70

madabout, well at least we didn't have to get up in the middle of the night to watch that ****E. 10.30 was a nice reasonable hour eh?

MrJ70

just checked the player list on spurs website and noticed David Bentley shirt number has changed from 5 to 38 ... is a new central defender on the way ? http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/players/player_profiles.html

spurn

Darren Bent? Or is it Mrs. Redknapp??

Mex_yiddo

mex. i'd take either

MrJ70

As has been said above this slide started in the final 3 months of last season, costing us 4th place and CL football. This start is nothing more than an extension of the problems from then, they were not a secret, or difficult to identify, and should have sparked a responce, exactly as the situation left by Hodgson at Liverpool required sorting, and £100M later, they are sorted as we will see to our cost shortly. We on the other hand denied our problems, refused to pay the going rate, both in fees or wages, in ordere to sort it out. If ENIC can't or wont afford to run the club competitively it's about time they admitted it, and sold up to somebody with the finance, the will and the committment and enthusiasm to take us forward. It will take a lot more than a 1 year borrow of a striker and a Scott Parker or Liassana Diarra, if in fact we are able to sign either, there is still apparently some doubt.

Frank

Wow, we certainly have issues here. I really hope Levy and HR sort it out. Really really need to pull up their socks, and I mean everyone at the club and get some good things going and going soon. Otherwise, this will be a season to forget plus it will be long, protracted and very painful for us all. Really wonder why this is happening. There are so many issues on so many levels. It's 1 am here in Melbourne and I am going to go sleep this off. Good night guys and girls(not sure there are any on today) PS: 1 last thing I want to say....Mr Levy, please spend some money in the next few days. Otherwise, we are going to be completely immersed in ****. COYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Madaboutspurs

Sorry guys. Just sell Modric n get plyrs who want to play 4 u. I hope u learnt ur lesson today. Keep him at ur own risk. Soccer has its own set of rules. An unhappy plyr can have negative influence on the whole squad. The gulf btwn City n ur team is small, but the mentality is what is different.

rios tm

Correction, of course it is 8 conceded not 7.

Frank

VDV injury could be a blessing in disguise ... Defoe looks as sharp and hungry as he was 2 seasons ago and last season before his injury ... might form a good partnership with Adebayor

spurn

And in the "Who's fault is it stakes?" I'd just point out that Levy has had 10 years and 7 managers to get us to this stage. Have all his managers been cr*p? If so, who appointed them? And by not re-inforcing the critical areas of the team over the last 3 windows, there is only one person to blame and that's Levy. I have to agree that Harry now does seem at the end of his usefulness and his formations are too predicatble and not effective, neither does he inspire the players to put in effort. So, yeah, thanks and goodbye Harry but who else is who is any good is going to come and work for an incompetent Chairman like Levy who is running a balance sheet and not a football club. It's like having Doug Ellis in charge and ask the Villa fans what they thought about him.

Harry-Kari

Madaboutspurs, price wasnt mentioned as a problem though that would be a reasonable assumption to make, however we DO know that it was thought that Suarez couldnt play up front on himself and would struggle with the premiership. We also know that we spent ALOT of money on our current strikeforce.

Guyver

Hello Mr J70. Yes, 10.30 pm was very decent indeed. Do you come from the land Down Under too? Good night to you and good night to all :-) (forced smile)

Madaboutspurs

TfG - What the fu** do you have to be confused about? Who selkected that shapeless team? Who selected the players to play in that shapeless team? Who selected the tactics for those players to play in that shapeless team?. Oh yeah, Levy LMFAO

coopsieyid

dawson captain my arse. he couldn't captain a bunch of kindergarten kids at a playground. there was no leader on the park, no general shouting instructions and organising procedings. not one player roled up their sleeves and got stuck in. I dont like him but defoe was man of the match for me today even if he came on as a late sub, showed more determination than the rest of the phuckers put together. worst phuckers were vdv and modric. sell the little runt for 30 mil plus sturridge then we have sturridge and adebayor upfront and make parker the captain. and dont play livermore in a hurry again he still has a lot to learn.

neymar

Palacios was actually paasing a medical at Stoke. A team that may finish above us this year. Good the Rafa is Ive said for months that the balance of the team is a problem with him so I agree with spurn. Just flabbergasted at the shap of our team in the last two matches. I know theres injuries a plenty but we have picked the slowest CM combinations possibly against pacy dyanamic counter attacking teams.

gatch75

madabout - sydney - you?

MrJ70

I believe that Defoe and Ade could well work together well. Just get read of the beanpole (who cannot score with his head or feet). How about that missed header today and the hairbrush hand-do after it?

kevmeist

Palacios was actually paasing a medical at Stoke. A team that may finish above us this year. Good though Rafa is Ive said for months that the balance of the team is a problem with him so I agree with spurn to an extent. Just flabbergasted at the shap of our team in the last two matches. I know theres injuries a plenty but we have picked the slowest CM combinations possibly against pacy dyanamic counter attacking teams.

gatch75

Harry has been in charge 3 years .3 years to build his own team & this the result .He can do wonders with someone elses team but don`t let the man build his own .He`s a team mender not builder ,that job needs to go to someone else .Levy get rid a..s.a.p .I like Levy but the next appointment he has to get right .I feel we`re in for the whole season with harry so Levy get on it & bring in Ancellotti or Maureen .We need a winner ,Harry Redknaap is not a winner

big cockeral

Not even these dirty martini's are stopping the pain, did we ever concede more than 3 goals last year? Now in the first two games 4 and 5. 5 at the Lane! I doubt Dawson will ever get another cap for England, who would pick him over Evans and Jones for example? We are in a world of trouble.

tengboon

melbourne sorry just read previous post. night night all. Lets hope when we wake up in the morning we've made that marquee signing or five

MrJ70

Oh well, I'm going upstairs to see if United are beating the you know what out of ARSEnal.

kevmeist

Mr J70- Melbourne. Wish we said hello under better circumstance. Too afraid to go to sleep in case I get nightmares about the game. OK, this time I'm really going. Computer off now. Cheers to all ..........ZZZzzzzzzzz.

Madaboutspurs

Defoe and Ade sounds good as long as VDV is injured.

zombie-greavsie

And how much of a battering has his ego taken today ?

big cockeral

VDV?

zombie-greavsie

Kevmeist - I agree mate. As for Harry....THE MAN HAS TO GO. He talks about balance every single time yet he feilded the worst team possible. Lennon dropped, Dawson dropped, freidel dropped, Crouch killed!

01tottenham

this should reach its limit soon?

spursftw

Well, ours is not the only pathetic defense today, we have got our neighbours goons too. United 1-0 Arsenal

sydqcb5

Could Lennon please try to cut in more often and perhaps use his left foot. If I was making that amount of money a week I'd be more than happy to learn how to use my left foot. I'd do my utmost to improve my game and stand out from the pack that includes Young, Walcott, and Johnson.

zombie-greavsie

HA HA HA HA HA HA HA .......... LMFAO.

the_blue_world

watching the mancs vs gooners game and gooners matching them toe for toe. I just finished typing that last sentence when the arsenal defence decided to emulated the spurs defence and gift welbeck a sitter of a goal!!!

neymar

penalty arsenal. van persie penalty is saved!!!

neymar

ashley young stupendous goal 2-0!!!

neymar

Great goal by Ashley Young, didn't we try to sign him? ;-)

zombie-greavsie

Harry_Kari, I happen to believe that you're plenty smart enough to know that ANY manager appointment has to go through, and is then Ok'd, by the board. NOT just Levy. However, there is ONLY ONE PERSON responsible for the $hit we've had to put up with for the last 8 or 9 months, and he aint called Levy!!

coopsieyid

Kranchar, Modric and VDV against their midfield. Complete naivety from Redknapp. Nasri added something completey different to city today and we were not set up for it.

Pride 1882

united 2-0 Arsenal.

sydqcb5

Oh to be a supporter of a Manchester team. Everything is going right for both of them at the moment.

Pride 1882

Well, I didn't think much of Ashley Young before, but he seems to be playing well au United. Maybe we can swap him for Pienaar? LOL

kevmeist

We were just what De Gea needed to build his confidence. Now look at him.... on fire.

tengboon

lol MrJ yup made me laugh as well, needed something to laugh at today, long time since i seen my beloved spurs so outclassed at home..

philbill

Coops you said yoourself there players were better we had no hope. Maybe Harry gave that as his pep talk. You cant have it both ways

TalentfromGod

Is it perhaps worth taking this conversation over to the "VIDEO : Spurs v Man City preview"?? Won't take half as long for the page to update, or to scroll to the end of responses..

coopsieyid

Absolute disgrace today. We need quality player and fast. 15 months ago we were a better than City, now they're kicking our asses.......Please DL get us quality this week or we are fu*ked.

Juicebanger

Lennon was off the pace. Bale was off the pace our game changers let us down and we had no ball winner in midfield. Kranjcar was not the answer.

TalentfromGod

The difference today and from the first game last season was that they were CLINICAL! We knew after that match 12 months ago we were going to struggle up front. Why has this not been sorted 12 months since??? Example, they score straight after the most simplest of chance for Crouch says it all.

Pride 1882

And who are the numpties that are still voting on the poll?. What's the matter with you? You're obviously City or Chel$ki supporters who were too worried about voting before the game, because you're scared to be wrong. Luckily for me, I'm never wrong, I voted yesterday, and my vote can be clearly seen in the 1st response to this article. One of those rare times that I'm facking GUTTED to be right!!

coopsieyid

I didnt notice much difference when VDV left the field. He doesnt link up with our front man. More evidence that playing VDV actually hampers us?

TalentfromGod

On 25 mins at 0-0 was there a player whose left foot you would rather the ball had fell to with the goal at his mercy than Bale? He should of put us ahead

TalentfromGod

3-0, feeling better already. Hope they score six!!!

zombie-greavsie

The only players that can come pout of the game with any sort of credit are Friedel, BAE, Corluka and Livermore. Even then I would give them 5 out of 10. Lennon was awful, Crouch worse, VDV shocking, Kranchar not a centre mid in the prem, Bale didn't touch the ball for the first 20 mins, Kaboul and Dawson need to learn the basic rules of defending.

Pride 1882

Juts watching UTD has made me feel so much better. 3-0

01tottenham

Atleast we're not the only ones who are being hammered by a manc club. Arsenal are as embarrassing as us.

spursftw

3-0, has Wenger chucked his water bottle yet?

tengboon

Does that mean the @rse are at the same level as us?

zombie-greavsie

The CBs were not the problem today. They are fine. The CM was absolute d1cked on from a massive height. A combination of having Kranjcar, Rafa with their lead boots and Harrys shape which spread the pitch wide and played in to Citys hands. Bale and Lennon still hogged the touchlines when Modric and Kranjcar were up against Silva, Nasri, Barry, Toure and had Augero and Dzeko dropping in just for good measure to make it even more of a one sided scrap

gatch75

3-0 already. This is our best chance to finish ahead or Le Ar@e, come on and get it together for the next match.

Pride 1882

Arsenal being murdered in manchester. Feeling a lot better.

sydqcb5

TfG, I don't need to have it both ways. Just one way would be good for me. One way where our pathetic manager is able to actually select a team based upon our opposition. Tell me, if EVERY member of this forum was able to see that the team that Harry selected was NOT good enough, why the fu** wasn't he??. despite the fact that we don't have the players to compete against theirs, we DO have players that can 'make a game of it'. But they were on the bench. Do Bolton have better players than us? NO. So how come they were able to put up a fight against these players that we never stood a chance against??Makes sense. You know things are in a bad state when Thudd and Jermain come on and look like they're the hungriest and busiest players on the pitch.

coopsieyid

Not making me feel better. Spurs still lost 5-1 at home.

Pride 1882

Walnut to the rescue

zombie-greavsie

Terrible by de Gay yeah

zombie-greavsie

Pride 1882 - It is indeed our best chance to finish above Le Ar@e. So, them in 20th and us in 19th then!!

coopsieyid

De Gea showing that he still has alot to learn.

spursftw

Coopsie, whilst I agree Levy didn't select the team, due to his inability, or reluctance, or plain bloody minded stubborness, in not strengthening the squad sufficiently during several successive windows, it left very little option in the team selection.

Frank

TfG - Friendly response to your pst about not noticing the difference when VDV left the field. There was atleast no concern about somebody shooting from 40 yards every time they got the ball. Well apart from Dawson. Guess he was still too close for one of his hoooooooooooooooofs!!

coopsieyid

Completely agree Coops. That line up was asking for trouble. Against Chelsea and Le Ar@se at home we would have loaded that midfield and pressed them but today we just didn't and that is down to naivety from our manager who was;t prepared enough for the impact of a player like Nasri.

Pride 1882

coopsieyid - well bluddy said mate.

01tottenham

Watching Arse vs Utd.....maybe Levy could cut us a deal to merge with Arsenal and save money on the stadium...we look about the same level now and Tottenham Gunners has a ring to it.

Harry-Kari

Pride 1882 - "Come on and get it together for the next match". I'm guessing you weren't aware that our next match is away against Wolves :-(.. Never mind though, We've only got Liverpoo after that. And then a trip to Wigan after that. those are all teams we've got a great record against. We battered Liverpoo last time we played them, but they haven't improved at all have they lol. Need I say more aboout Wolves and Wigan :-(... Be afraid fellow supporters, be very afraid!!

coopsieyid

Another 2 from 8, only it's 2 games, -8 point difference.

tengboon

LOL, coopsie... I know whatcha mean.

kevmeist

Respectfully diasgree coopsie re: Levy. Agree Harry has failed the tactical test but Levy has failed the recruitment test. I think Harry's world is about players who know how to play the game and don't need much coaching whereas Levy's world is all about are they cheap and do they have a re-sale value. When 2 world's collide and all that. Anyway, whoever is to blame we are in it deep, but who knows, after the International break, we could have a genuinly injured Modric and Bale but all the others should have a good rest given that we obviously don't train or practice and we can try to hold on for a draw at Wolves. It's only having something to look forward to that keeps me going!

Harry-Kari

coopsieyid mate well said for us fans. our manager is a tactical "master" and he's already prepared for the losing excuse just before the game is made. instead of signing suarez and dzeko, he prefers the giraffe crouch who couldn't score from the simplest chance and still smiles. hopefully he comes up and say even sandra would have score that!!!

what_sux

Tottenham Gunners....WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dcruzer

Now i have calmed down....... Did any of us expect anything other than two defeats from these two games??? Although i didn't expect the shambles today, i thought we would get beat!!! I still think that when king/gallas are fit (rest them for alternate games), Sandro is fit and adebayor is playing we will be better!! All is not lost, If we win our game in hand we are 4 points of 4th LOL!!! and 3 points above le scum!!! viva le spurs!!

woodyn17

the best thing that could happen is for levy to sack harry and then for our billionaire owner (whats his name again?) to sack levy. I'll take ramos back anytime atleast he won us a cup in his first season. If it wasn't for berba and keane acting like babies he would still be our manager today. who knows, we might even have won the prem by now if he was still our manager

neymar

Frank - Levy has been "dying to spend money on SPECIAL PLAYERS that could make a real difference" (Harry's words, NOT mine!!). Honestly Frank mate, go on any other psurs site, itk site etc etc, and you WILL find various different 'sources' that state that "Harry is constantly changing his mind about who he wants". Remember, as I just pointted out, Harry himself has been telling the world that Levy is "TELLING me to spend". However, according to Harry, "it's hard to find better than what we currently have". Again, not my words!!

coopsieyid

Tottenham Arsenals F.C. .....that's if we merge.........we're first cause Le Arse are in our turf....TOTTENHAM!!!!

dcruzer

hopefully Adebayor will inject some belief in us against wolves. its looks pretty likely that a 4-4-2 formation will be played with Ade and Defoe leading the line. If Harry signs Cahill instead of a big strong leader for our back line i will kill myself. This was the end of the line for Harry, Not because of the scoreline but because of the pathetic unbalanced team he picked. He has no clue therefore he has to be sacked.

01tottenham

damn I just saw over 700 comments here. and I was talking alone on the other article... daaaaamn

logos8

to be fair, I saw the starting line up and saw this coming. we effectively had 2 attacking midfielders and no holding mid and a make-shift defence. Dzeko's going to be top scorer this season I reckon. Hopefully we can bounce back from this soon.

Simgee

Did VdV play today?

spursftw

Coops 'Come on and get it together for the next match' was meant as a way of me wanting the chairman to buy Kaka, Samba, Diarra!! Basically a whole new team! That Wolves match is very tough particularly as they have a fit combative midfielder in their ranks. Not saying he would have definitely made the difference today but at least he would have put his foot in and worked for the team in centre midfield. But still in a 4-4-1-1 formation, no-one would have got near them.

Pride 1882

Mr Kari - "I think Harry's world is all about how to play the game and don't need much coaching". You mean, getting players in that means he doesn't have to do the job he's facking well paid to do??. I've already covered Levy, in my response to TfG.. And Mr Kari - Please, sir, tell me (us) what you have to look forward to (to keep you going). If you share it with me (us), maybe I (we) can take a piece of something to look forward to aswell?? :-(

coopsieyid

Sczchezny-Walker-Kaboul-Vermaelen-BAE-Walcott-Wilshere-Modric-Bale-Gervinho-RVP. That should f@ck Man U. and $hitty....

dcruzer

this was not a bad start for us. it was just a continuation of our bad form from last season. 3 wins in 14 games... just like sunderland... but the difference is that at sunderland they are allready considering the option of replacing bruce... ambition...

logos8

I am already allergic to Crouch. Every time he starts it's like a kick in the nuts for me. The Harry + Crouch love story has to end. Get rid of them both.

logos8

I just have no words to properly describe what i watched today.....usually if we cant score we can at least defend well and vice versa. I figured with that lineup and being at home Harry was just saying well i know its not going to be 0-0 so lets go for it. Unfortunately we need a Sandro type for games like this or we are screwed......Niko and Luka had no chance to make an impact as they were running around too much. Friedel had no chance to do anything, the defense was truly appalling. Dawson and Kaboul just CANNOT cut it right now. How we long for either King or Gallas to get back, heck at this point id rather put the left footed Bassong alongside Kaboul and let him play RCB instead of constantly making Kaboul play wrong footed. Our movement compared to theirs was pedestrian, im starting to think our system is too rigid after watching how free flowing City was today

YankeeSpur23

so if you pick up an injury and can't play on, can you still kick a ball like vdv when he was heading for the lockers ? Maybe he was just tired of playing out off his preferred position.

logos8

Going back to reality........Harry is too loose....it's someone's job to force/help our squad mesh.....then our team can worry about speed....the squad needs to do those thing in order to stand a chance...aka learn to walk before beginning to run.......cause otherwise the team will be broken easily....IM NOT A PRO...but any bloke can see that our squad does not know itself very well....they need start now...hopefully with a new manager, cause Harry is not going to change...WE MUST CHANGE...or everything is just a waste of precious time....

dcruzer

Pride 1882 - Yeah I know what you meant mate. My point was, it wouldn't matter if Levy went out and signed Xavi, Messi, Diarra and Samba. He still wouldn't know how to put out a team :-(

coopsieyid

my word, another rooney goal from free kick... class

logos8

What a Free kick from Rooney. Amazing. Amazing goal.

sydqcb5

It could be worse. We could be Arsenal

Seanmccan

logos - I thought the exact same thing when VDV kicked that ball in the tunnel. I've pulled my hamstring a fair few times, and kicking a ball in anger is the last thing I'd be able to do.

coopsieyid

5-1 nani

logos8

United 5 - 1 Arsenal. !!!

sydqcb5

manchester - london 10 - 2

logos8

Manchester is dominating football... :(

spursftw

5-1 utd ..... 1 more and they'll have the game goal difference as us. LOL

01tottenham

Yep Coops, Harry is inept and showed it today and on Monday. Right for relegation teams but not a top manager to get us to that next level.

Pride 1882

7-1 come on!!! We want 7-1!!

zombie-greavsie

6! Everything is turning to gold for the Manchester teams.

Pride 1882

6-1 fecking h311

logos8

WENGER - Rest in Peace .... United 6 -1 Arsenal

sydqcb5

Manchester - London: 11 - 2

logos8

Which one out first?? Wenger or Redknapp?

spursftw

North London, not the place to be for good footie so far this year. Cant believe how bad we are both playing, wow. That Rooney freebie was insane......we are so far off both Manchester clubs its scary.

YankeeSpur23

Rooney = More dreamteam points.

coopsieyid

and I thought we had a bad spell at Old Trafford haha...

logos8

YankeeSpur23 I think the manager and the mentality of the team is crucial for the end product. Give Fergie our squad and he'll do twice as better than Redknapp

logos8

Well at least Arsenal respond well

zombie-greavsie

Only good thing from today Arsenal look worse than us

Juicebanger

yeah, arsenal are still fighting... impressive

logos8

3 games and 3 sendings off for Wengers angels LMFAO

coopsieyid

Red Card !!! 4th gooner to get red.

sydqcb5

Red card in every of the first 3 matches for Arsenal

logos8

I've only been watching the utd game for the last 10 mins or so. Is Rooney likely to get 'Star Man' in dreamteam terms??

coopsieyid

This is becoming ridiculous. 7-2 !!! HAHAHAHA

sydqcb5

7-2 lol

spursftw

Looks like English football is going the same way as Spanish and Italian, 2 or 3 super rich clubs who win everything then all the others. How boring and predictable it is getting! Anyone know if the Samaritans are working over the bank holiday? lol

TQ2Spurs

8min to go, another 2 goals possible ?

sydqcb5

Well, there we have it ... that's the top 4 decided.

roforofoSpurs

logos8, only a fantastic 'winning' manager or a bottomless pit of money will move us any where near as the Yanited and Citeh.

Pride 1882

We will never be able to compete with Levy/ENIC in charge of the club and Redknapp in charge of the team. Simple as that. Any other view is just delusion. Only consolation is that the Scum are even worse!

StillRickyVilla

Pride 1882 absolutely, but still, a good manager could get us top4. I don't think Harry can do it anymore.

logos8

everything is just going right for them both. Unbelievable. Did Young score any gaols like that for Villa but he gets two in one match playing for Yanited.

Pride 1882

8-2

logos8

8-2 !!

sydqcb5

MOTD 2 will be fantastic viewing for the impartial supporters tonight!

TQ2Spurs

Completely agree Logos8. It is just so worrying considering how strong Yanited and Citeh are and gap now to us (and Le Ar@e for that matter).

Pride 1882

What great goals from Manchester united, almost every goal was goal of the season. Its United vs City for the title. Chelski a distant third. Liverpool ahead of us & Arsenal for 4th.
Pls, Wenger doesnt buy anyone. This win should ve come 3 days later.

sydqcb5

Harry has got some triffic players in a fabolous team. His views, not mine. Afetr 63 years of following Spurs this could be one of their worst seasons ever. Only consolation was the Arse performance.

NoMoreRFLeftWingers

LOGOS 8 -Don`t you mean Manchester 13 London 3 ..And we thought the riots had stopped

big cockeral

Well coopsie, what I have to look forward to is that I know there will be better performances and results to come for us, it always works that way just after I've slagged off everbody at the club, plus City not making the CL qualifiers and all the current top runnesr in the league gradually having a dip in form. Just another PL season and having to accept that while Levy is in charge we ai'nt going anywhere....oh, and possibly Levy in jail as well!

Harry-Kari

PS....keep smiling!COYS

Harry-Kari

Thank God, I can go to work tomorrow without being harrased by my fellow goon mates, infact thanks to united, I going to give them hell tomorrow. ANyway, back to our team, hearing rumors that Modric deal is on the cards now.

sydqcb5

Mersons summary about being stupid and setting up a team for "you have a go and we will have a go" was almost a carbon copy of our game. Sooooo naive.

gatch75

Pride 1882 I don't care about how strong Man utd and man city are. our aim could be top4, not more... but it looks like liverpool are going to get the 4th spot... our only hope is if Chelsea flop worse than us... but I don't see it happening...

logos8

Mr Kari - Damn you and your optimism lol

coopsieyid

I can't believe the final score with the Gooners COYS!!!

aspurusual

I think Modric is allready saying goodbye to his team-mates...

logos8

at least arsenal got shafted 8-2 and i thought we were bad. Its time to drop VDV go back to basics Ade an defoe up front 442 with a solid center midfield pairing. Whether that includes modric i couldnt care less (i lie) but Diarra realli looks like a must right now even old Parker would of done a better job. For those who hadnt accepted redknapps obvious tactical ineptness theres def no deny that now, krank and Mod center mid everyone with half a brain knew that was a suicide mission. Redknapp out???? well i wouldnt cry about it

Nate LuvsSpurs

Guys - I have heard we have signed Leandro for £14.5M??? Is this true or total rubbsih?? My old man overheard from a bloke who sits with the directors seats?? I will believe it when he is holding the shirt up!!!

woodyn17

Anyone thinking Arsenal or Spurs could challenge for the title is clearly a comedian or perhaps delusional (hear that Harry?)

logos8

does this mean that we could expect man city to beat arsenal at etihat with at least aa 10 goal lead?

logos8

Nate - I'd cry about it mate. Tears of fu***ng joy!!

coopsieyid

Im tamping but Harry out at this stage of the season is utter retarded. I know lets rebuild from scratch again. Clear out half a dozen players and bring half a dozen in. Just need to go back to basics, make ourselves hard to beat and start from there. Trying to play too expansive without doing the ugly things first.

gatch75

Arsenal will go crazy in the window. I hope all the smaller clubs like Blackburn & Bolton raise their players prices and drive them mad.

sydqcb5

F@CK Asshat 'Arry cannot be trusted anymore.....this is a great club...not something you can just carelessly wreck..... F@CK U 'ARRY!!!!!! GO F@CK YOURSELF IF YOU WANNA REALLY WANNA F@CK SOMETHING....BUT NOT THIS CLUB

dcruzer

Big Sam says as for as he knows, Parker to Spurs will happen in next 24 hours

sydqcb5

haha, Spurs are crap !!!!

I Bling Red

Spurs look liek they`ll be fighting relegation this season. Challenge the top 4 ?... HAHA YOU ARE A LAUGHING STOCK . Even Wolve and Stock fans were laughing at you today.

I Bling Red

pull the trigger levy please

what_sux

well coopsie i been reading for about 2 years and i think you may of been right all along. tbh i think we all knew deep down but our hunger for success just made us blind to the obvious facts, hes da mangerial equivilant to JD hit and hope.

Nate LuvsSpurs

Go flamebait elsewhere "I Bling Red".....F@Cking TROLL!!!

dcruzer

Wolves & Stoke*

I Bling Red

Run out of pants to sniff i bling red???

woodyn17

Just back from WHL, my brief summary... This was a terrible, disgusting and spineless display, Modric was half hearted, and not match fit of course... We were too open again in MF, no DMF there, Harry did not learn from the Man Utd game, yet said were were too open in MF in his TV post match interview... FFS.... Livermore should have played from start as DMF, with Hudd. Bale and Lennonwide MF. Dawson just way too slow, and Friedel should have saved 2 goals, I'm sure Gomes would have... Again Crouch and VDV upfront, just not working, just like last season's run of 13 games ... I was just too depressed at the end of the match to say anything to fellow yiddios walking out and down Tottenham High Road, to the train station.... VDV's 70th minute or so, walk off the pitch with a slight hamstring strain, was bad enough, but going straight down the tunnel and kicking a ball on the way as well was just inexcuseable, he should be fined 1 weeks wages at least....We are at the bottom of the league, and it is justfied IMO

As I said after the Man Utd game, I will give Harry 3 games in PL before saying anything this season, about his tenure at Spurs... I am sorely tempted right now to concur with Coopie, and others...

Block D Spurs

gatch - We NEED to "clear out half a dozen players and bring half a dozen in" anyway. So changing manager at this stage of the season would make no difference whatsoever. Or would you prefer the 'rut' to get deeper, and us to be in even more $hit, before making the necessary change??. This was the opinion of a retard!!

coopsieyid

I think Levy wanted to announce a new signing today ... but he had second thoughts because of our $hitty performance... and when I say $hitty I am not referring to Man $hitty

logos8

Does this mean that we will beat le scum 5-0???

woodyn17

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,,11095_7135354,00.html

logos8

Also Man City were at full strength. We missed Sandro and a fit Hudd. We desperately missed Gallas and King. Kaboul in my opinion, was at fault all game today as was dawson. Why did we get rid of Woodgate when he was finally fit??? I am starting to Hulk up again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

woodyn17

Hey guys leave I bling red alone. It's not his fault that his club have been dire for the last number of years. I can imagine how much hatred has been building up inside him. Now that his clubs new owners and manager have blown their load on the market they look strong for 4th. Not I bling reds fault that just like his club he has to blow his load. Ofcourse he has to vent his delight at us because Vital Liverpool is dead.

spursftw

and now mancini: ""The only thing I'm disappointed with is that we conceded. I think we need to pay more attention in this situation." ...

logos8

Harry: "They've got fantastic forward players, they're going to be difficult for anyone to contain them for 90 minutes." ....... excuses excuses.... Owen Coyle almost had a draw with them and certainly gave them a game, compared to our performance, way better...

logos8

I Bling Red - Who exactly has said Spurs will be challenging for the top 4??. I'll debate nicely with you, if you're able?. So, how about we start with you answering my very simple question??

Nate - I'm rarely wrong mate ;-) lol

coopsieyid

spursftw - The season is still early!!! Lets see where the bin pickers finish up when things go against them!! I fecking hate scousers!!

woodyn17

That said though, Nate. I REALLY wish I was wrong about Redknapp. Our club will suffer even more yet :-(

coopsieyid

guys, something to cheer about: big sam says he's confident of keeping parker.

what_sux

Sheesh...I leave you guys alone for a few minutes, go get the tractor out and mow the grass (at ARSE down 3-1), come back in and its 8-2. The one bright spot today, see ARSEWnal getting hammered!

kevmeist

mancini wins 5-1 away at whl and he says he is disappointed because of the conceded goal... if harry would have won 5-1 he would have said "we can give anyone a game, we definitely can challenge for the title" ....

logos8

Woodyn17, good point why did we let woody go when he could play 2 90 mins. games for Stoke or is it 3 now?... Medical staff at WHL need good kick up the a*** why do we have so many players injured with groin / hamstring problems?

Block D Spurs

Block D - "Coopie", sounds like a little 'pet name' you made up for me mate lol

coopsieyid

I WOULD 8 2 BE A ARSENAL FAN

dspurs64

iDaveH on Twitter: "I'd 8-2 be an Arsenal fan right now..." brilliant

logos8

kjsarabi on Twitter: "Average age of today"s starting 11s: Man Utd 23 v Arsenal 23.6. Quality youth vs Average youth. The Arsenal myth exposed. Case Closed."

logos8

LMAO - Good old 'Arry on SSN blaming the press speculation about our players, for our pathetic display today.. Is there no fu***ng end to this mans shame??

coopsieyid

"I would 8-2 be an Arsenal fan"...THIS BRILLIANT!!!

dcruzer

yes.. sorry coopiseyid... my error!

Block D Spurs

we are in the same form liverpool were last year under hodgson. fact. (3 wins from 14 pl matches)

logos8

coopsieyid are you serious? ffs, this man should retire ... he is making a total fool of himself... it's not about dignity anymore... he is clearly senile...

logos8

Think he enjoys being a charlatan for Talksports or whatever....SO LET'S GET HIM THAT POSITION...that way he can chin wag all he wants.... WITHOUT F@CKING OUR CLUB IN THE PROCESS.....F@CK U HARRY!!!!!!

dcruzer

i really can't take much more of harry redknapp and crouch its just 2 much there are so many things blatently wrong and luka modric was a disgrace thanks for at least putting in a little bit of effort spoilt pre madona, the body language of the players towards harry said it all to me today because not one person against city or united seemed to put any real effort in its like they all just couldn't be assed to be there

spurticus87

We are well and trully in the Sh1te!!!! Partly blame modric and partly blame Arry and co for going into the market and buying what we need, but again last day shinanigans will get us no where, I'm really depressed only ray of light was Arsenal getting thumped worse than us!!!!!

Whitehart Lad

why the hell did our manager keep on play peter crouch when he keep performing **** results?? no wonder he is losing the dressing room when lennon and vdv begin to ignore this inept tactician!

what_sux

more sheet in the fan: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/3780172/Harry-Redknapp-Luka-Modric-asked-me-to-leave-him-out.html

logos8

o gawd

basil ramjet

dcruzer

i saw the betting odds and bought the one that says our manager will be first to be sacked. nice odds there. wenger too.

what_sux

I remember last year when Arsenal were going down and Wenger came and said he claims full responsibility for the poor results, saying that the players are not to blame. Top class compared to Redknapp

logos8

Harry's post-match cheered me up. At least he's honest and angry. This is a blip, lads. A lot of players back for the Wolves game and a couple of last minute surprises on Wednesday no doubt. Sometimes a good kick up the arse is what a team needs and we've certainly had that today. Plusses: Friedel and Defoe. Keep the faith.

allen49

what_sux what bookmaker? I use bet365 but I don't have such betting options... only on matches... have to change the bookmaker... :D

logos8

http://www.skysports.com/video/inline/0,,16466_7135482,00.html

logos8

excuses, excuses...

logos8

I put £20 on Blackburns manager 1st to go .Harry will last the season as we won`t be that bad .I still expect to be fighting 5th or 6th ,but this has to be Harrys last year for sure .As for us,we have a long season of moaning to do

big cockeral

harrys full of *****. he always has been. city probably shouldve won today but in no way should it have finished with that scoreline. their 'money' or 'resources' or watever the ***** he wants to call it cant be used as an excuse every time his failings are exposed. does this guy even bother to watch the opposition? they played silva, barry, yaya and nasri in midfield, all players who like to drift into the middle, and so what does harry do? he plays two wingers, an attacking midfielder who cant play there and another midfielder who doesnt want to play there. he shouldve just held up a sing saying 'come ***** us'. and of course THE ******** VDV AND CROUCH COMBO UP TOP. *****ing disgrace.

laneno14

our manager is 20/1, perhaps i put some money in there, hmm?? link: http://www.thesackrace.com/premier-league/

what_sux

what's most disappointing is that he comes with excuses "we had a bad pre-season"... i mean... did Bolton have a better pre-season then us? do they even have a team that can be compared to ours? how come they gave man city a game and almost had a draw with them?

logos8

if you heard our manager pre match interview you will be more *****ed. imagine him saying the threat we pose by crouch knock down to vdv when it clearly don't work anymore for the past few months. every team clearly understood the tactics and defend so easily. no plan b as expected from our inept manager

what_sux

Modern football logics explain why Tottenham and Arsenal just collapsed today whereas the two sides of Manchester just played like they did: Investment. Sometimes, when we say "investment" we start thinking heavy amounts of money, zillion million pounds for a single player and maybe it´s not the case. There are several players who would consider an upgrade in their carreers to play for Spurs that are not that expensive. Levy and Redknapp failed to find a single player at this level. However, for Tottenham, the lack of any activity is showing what lots of us here were foreseeing: hard times ahead...to see Crouch lead our forward line again, to see a side who doesn´t know how to play any set that is not 4-4-2, to see unispired players like Lennon, Bale, Kranjcar, Modric who gave us our only CL spot in 50 years mean, imo, two things: 1) Harry must be asking to leve now as he´s not prepared to do anything relevalt to the club and 2) Maybe that´s exactly what the players have in mind...just an opinion. Finally, if Mr. Levy is playing such a chess match against Mr. Redknnap at the expense of Tottenham Hotspur and if it takes a whole season, then I´d pray for us to be above 10th come may.

AlexSpur

hehe, woodyn17, dcruzer hate me all you want you silly keyboard warriors, but when you sign off your pc`s tonight your beloved Tottenenham will stil be the same crap with the same crap squad as the day before. Small club you are. While my club fights at the top.

I Bling Red

I hope today's result shows agreement reneger levy, tax evader redknapp & the rest of you deluded spuds that a tree does not a forest make, ala modric in spuds, ala messi in argentina. Levy should swallow his pride & take an excessive £30 m for modric & use it to bring in 2 or 3 good signings before the window slams shut. If not spuds will go on a free fall & the morale & form of his players will drop drastically, & by jan modric might be worth his true value of £18 m due to a dip in form.

MidasTouchJay

our manager likes to buy players he like and not the players we should buy. -.-'''

what_sux

There goes that word again! you know the Jack Stan Anthem,,Deluded!

Born&BredSpur

According to Harry we were right in it - I seem to recall that was only while we were in the tunnel http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/news/articles/we-were-right-in-game-harry-280811.html

kernowboy71

With the (southern) way things are going for us and the (northern) way it seems to be going for the Scousers, it will not be long before Levy rues the disassembling the management structure - getting rid of Comoli - to satisfy Mr Redknapp. As I have said before, there is a stark contrast with the stealth we used, under Comoli, to bring new blood in, compared to the way we seem to bring stale blood in with Mr Redknapp. Judging by Mr Redknapp's comments, on his his frustration about Peter Crouch not knowing whether he's going or staying, I'd say channels of communication between Mr Redknapp and Levy are not what they should be between a manager and his chairman. If Mr Redknapp's do not reveal anything, they certainly reveal that whilst he wants to hang on to Crouch, Levy would rather be shot of him. I sincerely hope that Levy wakes up, sooner than he did with Ramos, and gives Mr Redknapp his marching orders. I hope he, Levy, recognises that a manager who does not strategise is not the way to go against the likes of Cit£h. Mr Redknapp is a fraud, and Daniel should not wait for The Revenue to tell him that.

roforofoSpurs

I would go as far as saying that the reason Mr Redknapp is so insistent on Joe Cole and Scott Parker is because of the kickback he might get from their respective agents, who he probably shoots golf with in the Costa de W

roforofoSpurs

We need a rich Arab sugar daddy!

canadianraptor

KB71 I believe he was referring to us as being in the S.H.I.T with that comment!

Born&BredSpur

*** Oops! I was a bit trigger peed off. I meant to say: "... who he probably shoots golf with in the Costa de Wherever they all holiday in together.

roforofoSpurs

Canadianraptor, this is not a matter of Sugar Daddies. Look how far removed Everton are from the spoils we enjoy, but they would never have capitulated in successive games the way we did. We need a new manager, the era of the Mike Bassetts (and Mr Redknapp is one of the last of them) is well and truly over. The Mourinhos, Mancinis, Guardiolas is the way to go.

roforofoSpurs

Put this in perspective before you all lambast everyone. We have played probably the 1st and 2nd teams in the league at the end. We cannot compete financially and so the best players will fo elsewhere until we get a sugardaddy or bankrupt the club to do so. Let us see how we do after the next 5 games before we judge further. We need loans or next tier of players that can give us some quality to cover the injuries. We look worse coz the Everton game was postponed as believe we would have won that. Keep the faith if you can. need to get behind them for all games now. Probably a good thing most of you lot do not go to games. We would have loads of suicides to clear up at WHL.

COYS R US

Big Sam, ''Parker will only stay if a deal is not reached'' ----->> Kranjcar, ''needs more game time'' was the call, his phucking crap, to slow, watch Dzeko's header again, Kaboul could not get back, but he did just to late, but if you watch he sprint's pass Kranjcar, who was jogging or sprinting, i can never tell his that phucking slow.......SELL MODRIC he does not want to be here anymore, CM lightweight and can't tackle, Hudd is not the quickest either, Lennon has a first touch like a orange box, which always make it so hard for him to get a decent cross in or he has time and does not know what to do next, stick or twist...Dzeko, Suarez, Ash Young all linked to us, watched by us brought by others IN THE PHUCKING KNOW.............We don't have a SCOOBY DOO at present, no leader on the pitch, no leader OFF IT....VDV just walked off, not signal to the bench and straight down the tunnel, NO RESPECT WHAT SO EVER, WONDER HE NEVER WALKED OFF WITH HIS BALL AND WENT HOME...........Spurs (us) are in free fall...........over 5oyrs i've supported this club.......this is as bad as it gets, LEVY SORT IT OUT AND QUICK ...............a blind man can see the problems......

spu 4 life

Agree with Allen 49. Some sense amongst the frenzy. This stupid sacking talk Reminds me of the Witch sketch in Monty Python. "Burn her burn her shes a witch" How do you Know shes a witch? She looks like a witch! We Need to go back to basics, play narrower and make ourselves harder to beat. We Cant open the pitch up with CM like we had to play this past fortnight. Need to play narrower until Sandro is back. 3 months ago If we had signed Downing, Henderson and Adam for £50m wed have all been dissapointed but they have given Liverpool a positivity and momentum that the North London clubs are currently lacking. Is their team better than ours or Goons? No. Confidence, momentum and positivity is massive and sadly its lacking at the minute. If we take one thing out of ours and Arsenals start it has to be that you do your business early irrespective of a few million quid that you may save. The vibes have been ****e all pre season.

gatch75

The problem Gatch and Allen, is that Redknapp's tactics are so antiquated they might have only looked modern pre-WW2. Harry simply lacks the coaching ability and tactical nous. He often appears to want players based on past glories rather than recent endeavours. He puts out sides to accommodate the 'so-called' stars rather than select a formation and then pick the team irrespective of the size of someone wages. It appears he has totally lost his man-management abilities. At Harry's age, you cannot teach an old dog new tricks. And it is not just the money. Last year in the Bundesliga, Dortmund wiped the floor with Bayern based on intelligent coaching and tactics. Mainz did the same, and they virtually spent no money. Udinese achieved much in SerieA based on good coaching. There are numerous other examples. Redknapp cannot hide behind the coat of someone spending more money. He has assembled a lop sided squad, alienated players he is now having to play, only played some of our talented youngsters when forced to, and basically pursued players like Pienaar who add nothing to the team. Unlike Wenger he seems to believe he is Teflon coated refusing to accept any responsibility and aiming his gun of blame in every direction. He is past it, and needs to go.

kernowboy71

VdV torn hamstring, out 4-6 weeks at least. Now all you VdV haters get what you asked for, 4-4-2 it is.

YankeeSpur23

Wow - we really did try and play against Man City with NO Defensive Midfielder. How naive and utterly stupid Harry. Anyone doesn't want signings of players like Bellamy & Parker (both fighters with fire in their bellies & good players too) should have been there today. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, but as soon as I saw the team - I seriously wanted to go home

Windlespur

i don't hate vdv i hate the fact that harry has no idea how to utalise him in a 4 5 1, what worries me most in this is not the results because its as a lot of people are pointing out city and united will finnish 1 and 2. what does worry me is the players body language on the field and towards harry! and what *****es me right off is seeing crouch laugh after he missed another easy header when we are 4 - 0 down and hes had a howling game

spurticus87

Kernowboy, agree with a lot you said regarding tactics. Ive had a good old rant earlier about the naivity with our CM today and exposing them even more by having Bale and Lennon hogging the flanks and Rafa (touch of an angel but lead in his boots) dropping deep. Harry is a gung ho manager no question. Having said that change at this stage is totally retarded imho. The last thing we want is an other rip it up and start again 3 year cycle. Angry though I was today I can still see that having Sandro instead of Kranjcar there today totally changes the game. As does Adebayor for Crouch. We still have an excellent squad. On a different note there is No doubt We have dropped an almighty clanger by not maximizing our CL position last year and making quality acquistions, and as a result we have stagnated and lost any positive momentum. Levy must take a lot of the flack for that even though by and large he has been excellent for us. I think Harry has been trying to put Levy under a bit of pressure to bottom things out because he could see the negative vibes coming out. The problem is that Citeh are muddying the water and putting even more emphasis on making big signings for ludicrous money. Its like the sub prime market all over again. What do you do, get on the market even though you know its not sustaianble.? or stick to your principles.

gatch75

YankeeSpur, I´m not a VdV hater, my CL shirt has "Van der Vaart" on the back and I always wear it proudly, but, imo, he´s clearly on the core of one of our biggest problems to be sorted out. Spurs didn´t find out how to make the team win when he plays the way he´s been playing.

AlexSpur

spurticus87 I know exactly how you feel mate that stupid grin after he wasted that sitter that Bale laid on for him made my blood boil

Spurs Allday

VDV out with a torn hamstring for 4 to 6 weeks minimum so maybe we will play 2 up front defoe and ade, sounds good to me after that shower of **** today!!

wardy1983

The other thing (amongst many others) which really wound me up was HARRY's Press comments about Man City having best squad in Europe, better than Barca. WHY - excuses, demotivate team chances. Still, at least with that knowledge he would put out a defensive team to control them - ooops.

Windlespur

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14700515.stm (I like how it says Na$ri on that banner)

logos8

waiting for peterballb :)

logos8

No dawson in the england squad... defoe is in though...

logos8

phill jones takes dawson's place in the england squad :)

logos8

And so he should.

Windlespur

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/football/14702987.stm

logos8

"friedel has had 2 great games for us and let a few goals in" ???? haha :) does harry know how to count to 8 ? that's not quite a few is it? anyway... I can't say that Gomez would have done better... but you never know... I must say though that defenders look more comfortable with friedel in goal but... maybe too comfortable...

logos8

Gatch, the market is sustainable - Kjaer for £7m and £50K a week is sustainable. Unfortunately our manager complete lacks any imagination and wants to go after a Dad's army, or guys who once did it in the Premiership. Or he wants to have a go with those who have a bad reputation to prove that he is still the man of man-management. Yes, you have to overpay as Liverpool have done but rather than be linked to the likes of Forlan who are on their last legs, he decides Suarez isn't good enough. There are plenty of up and coming players across Europe who won't cost stupid money but could really make a difference. Steven Defour, a well regarded Belgian international who Ferguson has inquired about with 30caps yet only 23, moved to Porto for only £5m the same price we're getting quoted for Parker. Kolbeinn Sigthorsson has been smacking them in for Ajax and the national team and have been a nusiance of a CF at AZ and cost them £4m. Bayern spent only £3m on Nils Petersen who at 22 had a great record at Cottbus and is considered the next Klose. There are deals out there. For less than £20m we could have gotten 4 internationals aged 22-23 . The problem is Harry is too stupid, ignorant and/or lazy to pursue these players because he has no interest in Spurs beyond the end of this season.

kernowboy71

ah well at least arsenal have taken some of the sting out of our defeat lol sky sports new concentrating on somethin else just watched redknap spewing out a shower of excuses looking like a man that has completely lost the plot

spurticus87

spurticus87 what are they saying about harry?

logos8

just found a ssn stream.. finally... didn't even knew what ssn means :|

logos8

our manager is making us become PortHam Hotspurs, a combination of Portsmouth and West Ham. with the rumours coming it, for one moment i thought we are an old folks home and not a football club!

what_sux

Er.... canadian... arab sugar daddy? We are a yiddo club.. are we not? Joe Lewis (£3b worth, is sugar daddy enough surely) needs to decide to put in the money for a poss. replacement manager and to spend on players, sell fringe players for their ,market value, as Levy seems reluctant to do so. As it seems all he is worrying about is the THFC Balance Sheet and NDP / OS haggling at the moment.

Block D Spurs

If they are going to sign Cole, Bellamy and Parker... what are the chances for Harry getting booed by the fans? :D

logos8

Well it seems Modrat didnt wanna play ...feck him off quick and spend the money, ugly modder fecker he is..........and take redcrap with you,how can you play w/out defensive midfielder ,even if its corluka? ******r redknapp

micky58

HARRY OUT. HAS NOT GOT A CLUE.

01tottenham

As The fans at WHL cheered Modric when he started the game, and when he was subbed... If they knew he said to Harry at 11.30am today (2 hours before kick off) he did not want to play, cos his head was not right... They would have turned on him, and booed. Cos this attitude is Berbatossa all over again. Daniel Levy, sell him for £35m or more, and lets move on.... COYS

Block D Spurs

Amen Block D, yep he mugged us off good and proper today, the little rat!

Born&BredSpur

we should get ready a replacement like pjanic, gotze, eriksen, kagawa and then force chelsea to buy 50 million on the last day with sturridge coming.

what_sux

Theres no point selling modric if we haven't found a replacement lads. i feel we should find a replacement now, allow him time to settle in and once he has we can sell Modric in january when prices are sky high!

01tottenham

i come in peace, at the beginning i thought u guys were doin pretty well, u had the mancs backpedalling, i was really pulling for u guys but then dzeko scored and its like every1 loss hope, dont worry theres 36 more games and modric aint goin anywhere

Jamaican Chelsea Fan

Why on earth would Harry tell the World's media that ? Either a) he wants us to turn on one of his players or B) he does want Modric sold (& Joe Cole is his lined up replacement). My stance is changing - don't want Luka to go, but if we have seen the last good performance out of him - get him out (Alex, Sturridge ?). Modric out, Kaka in - easy :)

Windlespur

Hi JCF, Trouble is, do we want a player whose hearts not with the club! he is fast becoming a loose cannon, and may well end up disrupting the rest of the team, if he has,nt already done so!

Born&BredSpur

wen the transfer window closes and he realizes hes not goin anywhr he will hav no choice but play or ride the bench, i hope levy stands his ground, modric should hav known better, why the hell do u sign a 6 year contract and in a year u all of a sudden want to leave. hes a spurs player and i think we should respect u guys enuf to back off. hes a hell of a player but i dnt want him for 40M and then the price weighs him down like torres

Jamaican Chelsea Fan

JMC mate! Then your probably the only Chelsea fan that dont want him lol,,

Born&BredSpur

oops sorry,, JCF not JMC

Born&BredSpur

Off to watch the Post Mortem on MOTD2 now Laters.

Born&BredSpur

Born&Bread, judging by the pathetic performances against the two Manchesters, I´d say Modric-Saga has already produced some nasty effects on Tottenham players...just call it a hunch or body-language reading, but, apart from Ekotto, Kaboul, Livermore, all other players seemed to be lost on the pitch. I mean, how can we assume they were not affected by this sad saga ?? We cannot. On the other hand, to whom would the players be more sympathetic, another fellow player they or the gaffer ?? I understand Modric´s departure to Chelsea would put Spurs in an unpleasent position again like it happened when Berbatov left but if Modric´s best was what we saw today, then sign Scott Parker on a 2-year deal, get Sturridge from this Modric deal and get another CB because Dawson looks like a rooker these days.

AlexSpur

Rookie....sorry

AlexSpur

for a start, i shall mention some CB we should be targeting like kjaer, mertesacker, hummels, subotic, thiago silva,

what_sux

@I Bling Red. That may be for the time being....but you'll still be a f@cking trolling flamebait.....which also won't change...asshat....

dcruzer

i cannot use both hands to count the number of players that have been *****ed off by our manager and his comments, the number is too much

what_sux

I wish one of us had the balls to go and bitch-slap these noobs who are screwing this club...then tell them to listen to us...consider the fans....we know best....1.F!ck 'Arry, let him go be loose and full of himself elsewhere...2. Get Ancellotti, someone who may care more, as many AC Milan players considered him a father figure (Kaka)....3. Let him get strikers (Hulk, Rossi, Ruiz, Leandro D, Abel Hernandez, Di Allesandro (Internacional, cause his good), Huntelaar, any 2 of these)...4. Some great MF's (Marin, Farfan, Elia, Affelay, Diarra, Walcott (joke?), Kjaer, Pjanic, Milan Bjadej, Willian, Douglas Costa, Oscar (Inter), Henrique (Sao Paolo), Diego(so-so) any 3 of these)...5. Give him time to drill these players to mesh well....and make them sooo fluid that will be as good as Man U.....or better..... COYS!!!!!!

dcruzer

Stop being so hard on yourselves folks. I like spurs, i think you guys are really entertaining and I was really rooting for you in the chumps league last year. But that City team is really unreal. I don't see anyone touching them or United this year. They are really spectacular. It's almost unfair when you look at that line up. I was mad at Barry when he left us - and figured he'd sit on the bench by now, but after today and seeing that he is still a mainstay in the line up - his decision is more than justified. As soon as that team gets some history and practice behind them, they can beat barca in a year.

los_angeles_villan

AlexSpur, I hear you mate, loud and clear! We must now extract all we possibly can out of Chelsea, they want/wanted him so much, so lets have Sturridge out of any deal,,,,Dawson I am sad to concede, lovely fella but is looking more and more out of his depth!

Born&BredSpur

L A V,,,I did not expect anything out of our last two league games, I did however expect a team to fight all the way for either a draw or at the very least keep the score line respectable, but judging by our managers line up and ,,,er tactics it appears not!

Born&BredSpur

we missed gallas and sandro. could have been a different story with them... maybe a decent 2-1 for City :p not 5-1? :) anyway... last year we took 2 points out of 4 matches against the manchester teams... so... it's not all lost as long as we beat the other 14 teams in the league that are not top 6 challengers. last year we took 6 points from liverpool, 4 from arsenal but we did poor against many of the weaker teams. beaten by wolves, blakpool and a lot of draws that many of us don't want to remember. It really doesn't matter how poor we look against these top teams as long as we do our job properly against the others. So many points left to take and we can do it even if Harry is a muppet, VDV selfish, Modric a Chelsea fan, and Dawson is doing a Palacios.

logos8

C,mon Peterballb, I,m itching for your take on the last week, I love your posts as you talk a lot of sense, and are on the ball mate!

Born&BredSpur

B&B.. agree Dawson is just not good enough without Ledly to hold his hand and tell him what to do in games. Even Galllas does this... J Terry in England games was shown talking to him. i did see MOTD 2 no mention of our lack of DMF. but city's DMF was praised!

Block D Spurs

Bit harsh on VdV there Iogos8 ! would you sooner Rafa do more damage to his thigh ??? already likely to miss the next 4 to 6 weeks and some how I feel we will miss him,,,,very much!

Born&BredSpur

Born&Bread, to be honest, at HT at OT, I wasn´t expecting nothing more than a draw against United because we were playing well though far from scoring. A goalless draw would be welcomed. After full time and after 0-0 against hearts at WHL, I couldn´t expect more than another draw against City. Not much for a side which expect to recover its CL status. In any case, Tottenham Hotspur campaign will heavily depend upon what´s going to happen in the next 3 days. It hurts me to admit this but: sell Modric tomorrow, get Sturridge and go shopping, Mr. Levy because the clock is ticking and you don´t want to get caught in a trap you have set it up yourself, do you ??

AlexSpur

Block, Daws is very much a one season wonder, shame because I know he would die for the club!

Born&BredSpur

Anyway, WHAT do we know! lofllllllll

Born&BredSpur

Born&BredSpur you are probably right... vdv might not be selfish but i really don't think he is a team player ... at least not when it comes to spurs...

logos8

Did anyone notice Crouch should have headed that chance across Joe Hart and into the far corner? All top goal scorers shoot head balls across the goalkeeper, or downwards (bounce will beat them) basic really. Even me, as a winger playing on Saturdays and Sunday mornings, (yes 2 teams / clubs a long time ago!) know this.

Block D Spurs

Juande Ramos just twittered to Harry Redknapp - 8 goals 2 games

big cockeral

Block, Crouch was just being, er Cr,,,OUCH Fecking S.H.I.T and that bloody gormless grin when he missed it, could of jumped on the pitch and slapped him one!

Born&BredSpur

Havent read all of the comments as there are loads, so apologise if it is already mentioned. I am also not a Harry fan, and it seemed to me not only did we lack any desire but we seemed to have lacked a game plan, and noone seemed to know what they were doing. I personally rhink we need a manager, who knows how to use tactics rather than hide under past successes as a good man manager

IGSpur

ffs its a joke we need a better manager/wagecap/striker/stadium/king with better knees/ well i hope :)

Dc_1986_spurs

big cockeral lmao

logos8

Block D, that Crouch chance comes from a fantastic drilled cross from Bale, the pace of delivery is already there, he just have to head it on target and he didn't. he still have the cheek to smile widely after missing such a sitter!

what_sux

IGSpur! Best get in the que mate!

Born&BredSpur

I know its sad but 1000th

IGSpur

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