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So, apart from a striker...

The inability to replace Adebayor during Saturday`s game, because there wasn`t a striker on the bench, it is again obvious that if we only make one signing in January, it needs to be a striker. That is old news, in reality, and with only Adebayor, Defoe and the half asleep Roman Pavlyuchenko as natural No9s, it is clear that we need to replace the Russian at the very least, as soon as possible, but my main question is, where else are we in need of adding quality to the squad?

It might be easy to look at positions like the centre of defence, but with Ledley King, Michael Dawson, William Gallas, Younes Kaboul and Sebastien Bassong, we really shouldn`t be desperately scratching around for players, especially when we have a potentially outstanding prospect in Steven Caulker, who could well be an ideal player to slip into the squad next season, either as a replacement for the perhaps departing Bassong or for the injury plagued King or Gallas. Now I like Gary Cahill, but for me, unless we are to lose two of the current CBs at the club, we are guilty of excess. Even if we consider the fitness worries of two of the main players.

Similarly, we could look at the right back position, which seems to now be taken by Kyle Walker, with the very different style of Vedran Corluka as his back-up. Now for me, Corluka, is going to be a very decent CB for someone, but perhaps not Spurs, but if we are intent on bringing in another central player, does this also make Corluka redundant as a versatile squad option? I believe that if we are seriously looking at Walker as the best Right back, then we have to look at a player of similar strengths to him, and again we probably have the solution already at the club, in Kyle Naughton, who seems to be doing well at Norwich, much in the way Caulker, was doing at Swansea before his injury. Could we be in a situation where we could sell off Bassong/Gallas and Corluka and spend nothing on their replacements?

Central midfield looks good, with Parker and Jake Livermore adding real quality, whilst in other emerging talents, such as Tom Carroll, Dean Parrett and maybe even John Bostock, we have real quality coming through, but it is more the wide positions that I feel need addressing. Andros Townsend is a player of huge potential, and I almost feel he would be a better replacement for the injured Lennon, than either Kranjcar or Gio, particularly late in games, where VdV inevitably makes his exit from proceedings. Though a natural left footer, his still looks good on the right and his pace will work well late in matches, as the game stretches out, but I would still like to see a right footed provider come in and don`t see an obvious youngster at the club who is ready to step up just yet. Again, could this be a case of our selling Gio and perhaps Niko to bring in that one player to add like for like quality and competition down the right and ultimately not costing the club a penny? What I would add to the idea of bring in this type of player, we only need it if we are to retain the two winger system, but it we are looking to play anything else, we are perhaps fine as we are.

Aside of that one other striker, to cover/compete with Adebayor, I only see Luka Modric as the only other player that we can`t directly replace, but has Harry seen enough in a player like Carroll to feel that he will emerge as a similar skilful and busy player to take a gamble on bringing him through, whilst we can`t forget about Tom Huddlestone`s different, but outstanding creative ability, which might well work effectively with the work-rate of Sandro and/or Parker alongside him.

For me, we desperately need a striker and perhaps that right midfielder to come in as soon as possible, but other than that do we already have players at the club who can fill in over the long or short term if required, or at least deserve a shot at proving their worth. I have always liked Jake Livermore, but felt that his time had gone with Spurs, but perhaps he has already proved me and others wrong. Could the likes of Caulker, Naughton, Townsend, Carroll or a few others prove us wrong again???




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Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday September 27 2011

Time: 9:17AM

Your Comments

wow 1st is it?
Zarjaz
2 days in a row
norwichspur
noooooooooo damn you zarjaz
norwichspur
leandro and samba would be nice in jan i recon
Zarjaz
hehe unlucky norwichspur :)
Zarjaz
would love leandro just think weve been 2 slow on this one , as for a centre back he has 2 be world class replacement for king not another dawson kaboul... which is what samba and cahill would be ..just not good enough...finaly we need to sign our new long term keeper and let gomes go COYS
norwichspur
congrats on your 1st zarjaz
norwichspur
Great article Ox, as usual posing not only your opinion but alot of pertinent questions which stir up a healthy debate. I suppose you left out BAE, as with Rose injured we only have Bassong as a half-measure replacement. Not sure why several people here suggest playing Townsend at LB for EL matches, he's certainly more of an out-and-out winger? Also I'm in full agreement that Caulker could be a ready-made starter to replace King, even as early as January if his ijury has meant his loan to Swansea is cut short. Thoughts?
tengboon
not really ive been following sandro and leandro on twitter there great friends from when playing together in brazil and they spent time together in london when brazil played recently against ghana think he wanted to stay in brazil for the end of there leagure and cup competition so january looks like a good prospect i know he just signed a new deal with his club but i guess thats just to up his price a bit ........... well i can dream i guess hehe......... dam is it mornin already.........
Zarjaz
8th...happy wiv that!!!
Sweenspur
Gio and Pav to go - yes. Krancjar should stay as he is our nerest player to Modric in terms of style. The lack of right sided cover for Lennon, doesn't phase me, whilst Walker is fit, as his forays from deep will become more and more productive. Leandro would be a good purchase, as we could bed him in as 3rd striker until the end of the season.
scoops50
I think we should look at Owen as a possible match changing sub.
WestStandEnclosure
It is a very odd thing to say - "we desperately need a striker" as if the loan signing of Adebayor was in any way the solution. We are one striker short, and two permanent strikers short in total - going forward. tengboon - the reason why Townsend plays LB is obvious. Ekotto is SO MUCH our LB, that there is little point in signng back up. He'll never get to play. However should Ekotto get injured, we need emergency cover in Rose & Livermore. The full back and Wing positions have been merging for some time now, and it helps for these guys to know both roles.
TonyRich
I am certain we will sell 3 and buy 2 or 3. Gomes, GDS, Pav are on the way out. So, we need a goal keeper who would be number 1 from next summer, a right winger and a 3rd striker.
I am getting the feeling that we will not get Damiao. I am more or less certain with that. Some names are already doing the rounds with our scouts looking into Sevilla's Alvaro Negredo, Genoa forward Rodrigo Palacio & CSKA & Ivory coast forward Doumbia. I would be happy if we get Negredo on a player + cash involving GDS. He is in great scoring at the moment. He could even replace Adebayor as front man if permanent deal doesnt work out.
In PL, I am impressed with one or two keepers - Hennesey & Vorm. But if we had the money we need to look at Galatasaray's Muslera.
In midfield, we need a player who can play in multiple positions. If VDV really leaves for club like Milan, we need to replace him with Brazillian Lucas or Basel's Shaqiri.
Wish list are big, but I would not be disappointed if we keep the current squad.
sydqcb5
@ tengboon, I did deliberately miss out on BAE, because of Rose, who though is injured and seems to be injured a little too often for my liking, he does seem to be a good back up, whilst I suppose we also have Gareth Bale to fill in should the need arise. however, I do feel that Rose now needs to get fit and prove his ability to stay that way for some time to be considered as a serious first team, player
oxfordspur
Don't think Caulker is ready. He is still too inexperienced. You can cite Phil Jones - who is still 19. But he is more experienced and ahead of Caulker. Jones played over one season for Blackburn and was getting rave reviews (at Premiership level) - before he got his big move. He still has loads to learn too. Caulker still only has rave reviews at lower level. Smalling is simply older and more mature. One more Premiership season on loan for Caulker for me. The reason why is that we do not have a consistent partner for him to learn from. King had Sol Campbell. Caulker will not have King (much). Unless we sign Cahill, and use him as the "mentor".
TonyRich
I think we missed the boat on a good keeper we could have gone for Shay Given, but now i feel we need to go the way of the other big teams we need to get a good young prospect in put them in the front line and persist. Need a CB and Cahill i think is Ideal but then again its the right side left side argument do we have enough of each? Sell Gio and get a specific right winger to put some competition for Lennon when he's fit hopefully it will kick him up the arse and get him playing to his full potential. And deffo sell useless Pav and get Leandro he looks quality tall and strong can use his head and feet and has a good positional sense as well as he can move well and i think we will need 1 other too. Just my 2 cents :)
snowspurs
What is, if any, the deal with Internacional and our club? Only i'm hoping that a ''behind closed doors'' deal has already been put in place, for Leandro Damiao, it's looking more likely that Pav will be moved on in January, i just feel Arry has had as much as he can take with him. Two other points, One it's about, getting back into the Champions League at the end of this season, in doing so finishing 4th or better, brings in Premier League High Rate Prize Money, that paid out on a striker in January to help secure this finishing position, makes sense, well it does to me. Second point is getting through to the next stage of Europa, it's allowing others within the squad to play, plus i feel Arry will start including bigger names, should we progress, this also has the benefit of more money coming into the club. The positive outcome of buying in January, not only gives cover for Adebayor, should the worse happen, but it bed's in a new player, i feel Arry will look to try at least to keep Adebayor at the end of the season, but a lot depends on his wages, Adebayor plays with a smile on his face, he looks happy, maybe staying for less money, is possible, who know's, He is a top player and i believe a fantastic lad...Speculate to Accumalute, we may have to pay a little more, but the rewards benefit the club. IMO
spu 4 life
Accumulate
spu 4 life
http://www.goal.com/en/news/11/transfer-zone/2011/09/27/2684655/liverpool-join-the-race-for-brazil-international-striker-leandro- well as i said looks like the deal aint dead yet so fingers crossed for january :D
Zarjaz
From news reports, Barca, Milan, Inter, Porto,Liverpool have already scouted Damiao and each one is readying a offer. So, I would be surprised if we land him in jan
sydqcb5
snowspurs - Shay Given is looking sharper than I thought he'd be, but I still do not think that City would have sold him to us. It was a scenario that suited both City and Villa simultaneously. Villa were a keeper short, whereas we wanted to strengthen. You can state the Adebayor thing, but I think that by then, City had done ALL their business, and were content. We were one striker short, and soon to be 2 strikers short, so it was damage limitation for City. Selling Gio will be tough as the Spanish teams seem to be in some financial difficulties - like the nation I guess. But Spain is his prefered destination - language & culture I guess. But we do need to shed him - it ain't gonna happen here...
TonyRich
I would argue we need to be looking at two strikers by next season, at least one needs to be a genuine target man who can lead the line. The logic of this is that we only have Adebeyor for a year, Pav just isn't doing it and even when he is scoring goals Defoe's lack of basic ball control gives me serious concern. Within the next couple of seasons we should be looking for a complete new strike force. We must also assume Modric will be gone at some point, as his contract runs down power shifts from the club to the player and Levy will know that. We need to be looking at a young, Modric type player, initially as an understudy then a replacement. I don't believe anyone currently at the club, Kranjcar included, can play the Modric role, Carroll would be a long way off if ever. LB and wide midfield really depend on how Rose and Townsend develop, this season should tell us. Its a similar situation with Caulker but less urgent. I'm not sure its just about reacting to the current situation but anticipating what we will need going forward and acting accordingly.
jod
Gio should be given more time he obviously has talent and this needs to be exploited by the coaching staff. He is young still so lets not waste this opportunity for what good be a truely great talent.
Horny Helen
I think we need a new young 'keeper because both of ours are getting on a bit now and aren't going to last much longer and it doesn't look like Gomes wants to stay and fight for his place, so I would say that that is a matter of priority maybe for next season.
chrishove123
A class striker in January and at least another one next season is a must. Further the team should replace gradually some players who don't have the proper for a top club skills and, particularly, the proper mentality.
Ioan X
sydqcb5 - exactly. It is too late for Leandro....NEXT... We all need to understand that if a kid is going to move half way across the world, then he is going to go for most money, in CL and biggest known name. I am sure Sandro is still having to explain who he plays for to his own family... With those in the mix, there is no chance. Sandro happened before others got interested.
TonyRich
Helen - it has been 3 years and 3 months and 3 loans now.... Gio is now 22. In footbal terms that isn't "young" anymore. This season is make or break.
TonyRich
Three players i would push for are; leandro (striker) from internacional, marco reus (right or left attacking midfield) and dante (left sided defender) from gladbach, the spend in the summer window was low, we still have the money, i think? Selling on Gio and Pav would net around 18m, if Gomes moves on, we would only then have two keepers, two up for the job anyway, much the same as now, this is a delicate situation, maybe hold onto him until the summer, but then clubs don't like selling mid-season, makes getting in a replacement harder. catch 22....
spu 4 life
On Gomes, his understanding of catch 22, is one in 22.........
spu 4 life
Not sure if we will bring in a striker in january, really depends if were in the running for champions league. Id like to see the Brazilian kid come in and think we could easily get Adebayor be it give him a stupid sining on fee or pay a decent enough fee for him with City paying a percentage of hie wages. Like to see Pav, Gio, Bentley,Jenas,Gallass and Bassong leave next summer with the two strikers mentioned in , in january and Cahill on a free in the summer and Foster as number 1
spurspanther
Jod - I think that Defoe has very good ball control....it's the other cerebral side of his game that needs work... and his finishing. The problem is that people (not us) talk him up - "natural finisher"...."20 a season man" .... we hear these inappropriate comments all the time and Defoe himself believes them. Modric may well leave soon, but not because his contract runs down ... 4-5 years left? We shouldn't try to replace Modric like for like, but have a number of people in position to step up and claim the spot.
TonyRich
tengboon, I totally agree dude.
Fanman
Gio will be given another chance, i would think vs Shamrock on thursday, see what he can do then? I can't find one positive about him, for me he offers little or nothing to this club long term, why we never took the money in the summer, i will never know. Thomas Carroll is progressing and a ready made replacement, considering the age difference, he looks a very good player.
spu 4 life
spu 4 life, Oh, yeah, yeah I totally agree! The Gomes joke was 24 carat bling. :-D
Fanman
Great article Ox, as usual.
Fanman
spu 4 life - we have 3 named keepers. You need 3 like all the other teams. If Gomes wants to go, then he has to be replaced. spurspanther - we have already negotiated for City to pay Adebayor to play for us for a whole season! Don't interfere with that deal!! At end of the season, Adebayor will move to someone who can afford his bloated wages...it ain't us. We simply cannot afford him. A huge signing on fee to a player who has left 3 teams in as many years? There is no likelihood that you will get your money's worth...
TonyRich
Ox, soory getting rid of PAV and replacing him with another striker would of helped how? if there was no striker on the bench on SAT we replace him in Jan then the new striker and defoe get injured then it is the same as wigan. VDV is not a no 9 therefore we need 4 strikers ... I think Defoe and Pav have to both go and get in new strikers.
E17YID
Ox, soory getting rid of PAV and replacing him with another striker would of helped how? if there was no striker on the bench on SAT we replace him in Jan then the new striker and defoe get injured then it is the same as wigan. VDV is not a no 9 therefore we need 4 strikers ... I think Defoe and Pav have to both go and get in new strikers.
E17YID
Townsend is he not a natural left footer? why on earth play him on the right?? santos can play on the right ... why do we always have to tinker with the squad.
E17YID
Townsend is he not a natural left footer? why on earth play him on the right?? santos can play on the right ... why do we always have to tinker with the squad.
E17YID
Ade wouldn't stay long, better not put him on long term plan .. he is too expensive.. but he will stay for whole season... City has got no place for him... Levy is not willing to spend money so i doubt we will get leandro... he is on form and there are other clubs already scouting him...
Singspurs
cahill is too much like dawson and not worth that much money, though after we beat ars*they will probley cough up the dosh. feel we missed the boat on leandro by bidding too low,think he will go to europe now. just need that striker in jan.
topspur53
No matter what happens at the end of the season we will not get a better striker then Adebayor. Is there any reason we cant sign him for 12-15 mill give him a 3mill signing on fee and 70 grand a week with 20k goal bonus, if hes playing week in week out hes no trouble and will score 20 plus a season. I dont even think Man City would turn down an 8 million pound bid to get him off the wage bill
spurspanther
The only issue we've missed is the African nations in Jan, where we will loose BAE and Bassong (Ade is fine as Togo haven't qualified). I can see us taking a decent left back on loan. Can't see Harry being happy to just play Rose, particularly as the only other player (minus Bale) that can play at lb is Bassong!
mattgazza
Off topic fellas, but if you want to know how great our Club is to our more unfortunate supporters read this:

http://www.thisiskent.co.uk/Spurs-match-heaven-Michelle/story-13411623-detail/story.html

You'll find it either heart warming or tear jerking, but its nice to know just what Spurs are capable of off the pitch. Makes me proud to be a Spurs supporter.

Spuds-U-like
bae has stuck to fingers up to the national side, so he should be staying put.-matt
topspur53
Trouble is we'll be lucky to get a few quid for Pav who prefers to warm the bench or his armchair rather than put in a shift.Harry Kane needs to step up in the next few Europa games without Pav's bad influence inhibiting him.Also Gio has a chance now to replicate what he regularly does for Mexico.These two now have a great chance to prove themselves.Pav is beyond the pale and should be sent to Siberia to toughen him up.What a wimp!
wentworth
Ceballos has looked likt the perfect replacement for modric once he develops, his game looks soo similar agree striker has to be the priority in January but another bid for cahill wont go amiss particularly as he will be cheaper then than he would of been in august.
Audere est Facere
topspur53 - that's good news for us, i did the same, told cap-in-ello, i have withdrawn from international duty, to pledge my support to SPURS FULL TIME................
spu 4 life
I remember reading something about him and Song being fined for an arguement with Etoo but then he was in the last Cameroon squad no topspur53?
mattgazza
spu4life- ha ha. hope your under 40yrs or harry will be recalling you when he takes over.:-)
topspur53
TonyRich agree with that one on keepers, sure we have someone in the pipeline, if Gomes leaves, his gone from 1 to 3 in the space of a short time
spu 4 life
I think the only "outs" will be Gomes, Pav and possibly Bassong if the Cahill deal is back on. We don't need a massive overhaul we have the best squad of the three teams in the battle for 4th so why dismantle it? In January I think we'll move for Damiao whether we get him or not is anyone's guess in my eyes we've seriously messed about on that deal, but if it does happen he's an improvement on Pav and he won't take up Pav's squad place so we free up room with an eye on next season's squad list. I also think we'll move to make Adebayor's loan permanent, I think he'd happily take a pay cut to get away from City but Harry keeps going on about his wages to scare off others who may be circling. So to summarise Gomes, Pav and Bassong out and Adebayor, Damiao and Cahill in which also gives us an extra two squad places (though one of those may well be taken up by Beckham)
Spurs Allday
New stadium, another striker, new goalie and 2 new wingers. Get rid of Gio, Kranjkar and Bassong. Harry needs a face lift i want a new ferrari please. The squad looks in real good shape at the pressent. So many options the gooners must be crapping it. We have Brad giving confidence to the back four, King playing like its his last chance. VDV fighting for a place and Lennon and Gallas havnt even got a look in yet. Come January i think we will do some more business...mainly to aid the current campain i would hope...but were gonna have more of an idea of the areas we need to patch up nearer the time. COYFS.
SpursOne2
Spuds-U-like that is a great story mate
Spurs Allday
give harry the england job if it means no beckham. please pleaseplease sunderland dont sack steve bruce, till he has bought pav for8-10 mill.
topspur53
Spurs Allday - Why do people keep saying that Adebayor will take a pay cut to play for us? He could have taken a pay cut to stay at Real - and he made it clear that he wanted to stay there. When he was at Arsenal, he said that a move to AC Milan interested him - and that was probably due to money. I do not blame him for chasing the money...why not? But let's not believe something that is unlikely to happen. How about Chelsea? He could go there for example - to maintain his salary - Anelka is older and will leave. Drogba is older too. How about money bags PSG?
TonyRich
TonyRich he didn't "chase the money" Arsenal fell out with him so he was sold and City came up with the asking price and then stunned him with the absurd wages they offered him he didn't even make a request with his wages they threw the contract in front of him and he was shocked by the figures. Real Madrid didn't sign him because the club president didn't want him he's even said himself that Mourinho wanted him but the club president wanted someone else probably more of a "galactico" signing.
Spurs Allday
Tony although anyone can see that Ade is a football mercenary, with his wages so high, is there anyone that will pay those wages? Therefore he will have to take a paycut. Now I don't for one minute expect him to just say at the end of the season, i've loved it at spurs, gimme £50k a week. As he will be happy to play in Alaska if they pay him the money, but I do think if we pay £100k, and noone else of any note comes in for him he would sign.
mattgazza
TonyRich - Can't agree. Watching Defoe at the Liverpool game I lost count of the number of times he failed to control a pass and the ball just bounced away off his foot. The key point on a player's contract is actually when they still have two years to go, once it gets to a year he's probably going to run it down. Look at the panic Wenger is now in to persuade Van Persie to re sign. His contract runs out at the end of next season. We have time with Modric, but not as much as you might think. I also think you are underestimating the effect of a genuine playmaker in midfield. We are now well off in terms of all round midfielders, Parker, Sandro, even Livermore. But we have nobody who can pull the strings like Modric. Take him out against good opposition and we will suffer.
jod
mattgazza - Why on earth do you think Adebeyor has to take a pay cut ? City are contracted to pay him £170k a week for three seasons. If they don't have a spot for him its City's problem not Adebeyor's - he still gets paid. He could spend the next three years relaxing on a beach and still pull in £26m. City would give him away to anyone who would pay his wages, so far no one has shown much interest. Not only doea the player get paid no matter what, he can also veto any loan or transfer he doesn't like. Whatever happens to him next season one thing you can count on is Adebeyor will not be losing money.
jod
Of course JOD, wherever he goes, city will be funding the next 3 yrs of his contract, however the issue will come with the remaining 1 or 2 years depending on if he signs a 4 or 5 yr agreement. He's not gonna take £120k from city plus £50k from his new club for 3 years then move to £50k for the final yrs is he?
mattgazza
It's not even october and we are already talking about who we will try to sign or get rid of in Jan?? Can we not just enjoy this little run that we are on??? FFS!!!
woodyn17
Adebayor would still get his money anyway as jod points out. What would probably happen (if we agree a deal) he'd go to City and say Spurs are paying me "x" amount, I haven't requested a transfer so i'm entitled to "x" amount off you and you're ending our contractual agreement so i'd like my contract minus what Spurs are paying me paid as a compensation/ loyalty payment. With us paying them say 15mil and him around half his wages City would be saving a considerable sum if they simply agreed the pay off it would be peanuts compared to what they'd have to pay him if they don't sell
Spurs Allday
mattgazza he never asked City for 175k a week they gave it too him so yes he'll make sure he gets the money he's entitled to but his wage "demands" will be nowhere near 175k a week and we'll pay him a lot more then just 50k it'll be around 75k-100k a week which will be more then enough IMO.
Spurs Allday
Ox... I stopped reading when you said Corluka would make a very decent centre back for someone... I know you know better than that! He is awful at CB, positioning is shocking and he isn't quick enough over the first yard... Maybe non-league he would be ok. I think you may have fallen into the trap of believing because he's a bit slow at RB he is automatically OK at CB... he really isn't though.
Dan Mac
Not sure I'm following any of this on Adebeyor. The man is earning a fortune for the next three years and will then be a free agent which will put him in a much better negotiating position with any new club. Why would he tie himself down to further years on reduced money at this stage?
jod
jod if he doesn't move then he'll spend the next 2 years sat on his backside counting his money hardly going to make himself an attractive free transfer if he's not played for the next couple of years. I can't see City loaning him out again after this season if he continues to do well they'll sell him as someone will definitely come in for him and the choice then is simple he either sits takes the money and waits for his contract to end which could lessen his status in the game due to not playing which will also impact the wages he'll be offered or he can move pick up his money and by the time those 3 years of City money have ended he'll probably have earned himself a big money transfer away from the club he's at so he'd never actually get the reduced wage
Spurs Allday
Off topic... Joe Lewis is trying to buy M&B (Mitchells & Butlers the pub & Rest. chain) he holds 23% and trying to buy while the company is down in share value... If he does, could be the new stadium called the M&B Stadium??? you heard it here first! By the way, Joe's yacht is mored at Tower Bridge this week... So we should see him at WHL on Thus. & Sunday games.
Block D Spurs
As mentioned a few times above, the GK situation will need to be looked at very shortly. If Gomes is wanting to leave then a young and established replacement needs to be lined up. Think we should look at the Dutch / Nordic Leagues and get ourselfs a big 6'6 viking!!! The Ade 'scenario' will also require some creative accounting in order to keep him. As for the infamous replacement striker who knows?
thenuge
Damiao a must in January (we should have wrapped up the deal earlier) with Pav please, please going plus Gio - pay whatever the difference is no quibbles. Bassong to QPR traded for Wright-Phillips (you can only ask). Rest of positions resolved for remainder of season
sandrotheman
Block D Spurs is that allowed? I'm sure he's not allowed to sponsor the stadium as it would be seen as a way of cheating the fair play rules or at least I think so
Spurs Allday
Spurs Allday - Why would City do that ? think about it. The EUFA financial rules come in next season, Adebeyor's wages will count as part of their costs. If they want to meet the requirements they need to reduce that cost as much as possible. As for a further transfer, Adebeyor could negotiate a better deal as a free agent, every pound the selling club gets is a pound less in wages, better for the player if there is no club to take a cut. Also, if he signed for Spurs, what would prevent Levy refusing to sell like he did with Modric ? However you look at it it makes no sense for Adebeyor to sign a new contract at this stage unless he is going to get significantly more money.
jod
Spurs allday, I agree with your last response to Jod but the 1 before where you say he didnt ask for £175k is a little naive. You think he said i want £120k and they went no no Ade take £175k. The fact is Ade's agent prob went in with a stupid offer of £175k which they accepted rather than negotiated.
mattgazza
SWP you on drugs??
E17YID
SWP you on drugs??
E17YID
Instead of talking about jan ransfers, lets talk on another possible big thing coming up this weekend. No, I am not talking about game against scum on sunday. Its about new stadium. If I am right, On Oct 3, IAAF(International Association of Athletics Federations) are examining London’s bid for the 2017 World Championships. So, if that has to happen, we need to give up OS legal proceeding before that.
We had signed S106 agreement last week, which means that some deal is already on and its only a matter of days.
Moreover, October was the month given for second round of RGF funding allocation, where we have submitted bid around 50m pounds. So, having signed S106 and promised 17m pound from club for local infrastructure + Oct 3 IAAF visit = Big announcement on NDP in first week of October. Last few days, I have seen some math lessons here, I hope my theory is right.
sydqcb5
Surprised no one has mentioned Damiao's injury, he's apparently out for 5 weeks at least, and this maybe just maybe will give us the chance to get him in January, if Europe's elite have only recently started scouting him they may feel that they haven't seen enough of him to make a bid in January, we've been watching him for a while so should be set to go in early and aggressive and make the deal happen. However early and aggressive are not words you normally associate with our transfer policy.
Matt_the_Butch
jod If City are going to reduce the wage bill they'd sell. I said earlier if we pay Ade say 100k a week and pay City 15mil in transfer fee, Ade then goes to City for a pay off for the remaining wages of his contract (minus what we're paying him in wages and signing on fee) which is covered by the transfer fee. So City make probably a small amount on him but shift him off the wage bill he signs (say if in Jan) a 4 and a half year deal and by the time his City wages(his payoff) have expired he's left with only 2 years on his deal which would leave us having to sell or risk losing him for nothing if he does well for us in the 2 and half years how much would he be worth? Levy would do the deal when we're at our strongest bargaining point, so we'd sell for around (who knows) 40mil for a bloke with 2 years to run good business for us and he gets to leave for another big payday
Spurs Allday
Spurs Allday, not sure, but if the M&B Company pays the naming right, and it is not a football related business, only owned by a holding co. offshore, which is owned by Joe Lewis, then it should be ok. But if anyone else can know for sure, please post your views...
Block D Spurs
Spurs Allday - City would have sold him if they could, they would have given him away if they could, they haven't been able to, that's why he's on loan and they're still paying the biggest chunk of his wages. You don't seem to get the point, whetever the buying club's budget is, it is split between the fee paid to the seller and the player's wages. If we sell him and get a fee that fee comes of his wages with a new club, he makes more money as a free agent.
jod
Re Damiao - We still have a good relationship with Internacional by the way....i think were still in the lead to get him. Liverpool are said to have joined the race...but meh...they havnt been dealing with this lad for as long as us and i think that those two points gives us the upper hand. If we can give him some good personal terms then he will join. If not, then we will be in for the countless other players our scouts have been looking at! I read this article and it kinda covers what i have said...but in more detail. http://football-talk.co.uk/40780/spurs-must-replace-pav-with-this-striker-
SpursOne2
OUT. Pav the Donkey... Gomes the Clown (though occasionally genius!)... Gio the player who'll exceed somewhere else leaving us all to scratch our heads... IN. at least 1 striker... we need two... & a replacement for Coco the Goalie. In an ideal world, yes I know I know, there'd be a 2nd No 9 and a world class CB.
Cape Town Spurs
jod - If he signs for us and does well up until we sell him he'll be signed by one of Europe's elite take Inter for example they're wage and transfer budget would be far greater than ours so he'd still pick up monsterous wages at one of Europe's big boys whether a free agent or not. Would he make more on a free? Yes he probably would but making a big money move at the height of his powers he'd still be making a small fortune so he's not really going to lose either way. What we think will happen is all guess work you think he'll do one thing I think he'll do another and i'm more then happy to agree to disagree mate.
Spurs Allday
Could Jakupovic be the replacement for Gomes? He's trying to negotiate a free transfer from his club in Greece we've been linked in the past.
Spurs Allday
NextGen against PSV tonight a chance to see Coulibaly and maybe Ceballos in action
Spurs Allday
Spurs Allday - So basically you're scenario only works if Adebeyor is prepared to lose money ? good luck on that one.
jod
good article but respectfully it is a little bit pie in the sky who we want as the very best will only come to us once we have been in cl for say 4 out of 5 years. Until then our best option is to take a punt on the berbatov and modders stage of development type players and home grown
troffer2
jod no he's not losing money because all that free transfer money is pie in the sky if say he comes to us and we sell him and Inter(don't know why I keep using them) offer him 180-200k a week then where's his loss? The money he may or may not have made from being a free agent who's to say a club would offer him more then that? If he as you believe has two more loan spells which is doubtful as no club did so this summer even after he was a success at Madrid. So he sits there for the next two seasons makes his money and rots then who's going to offer him 200k a week? Its all ifs buts and maybes there's no guarantee that the money is there for him surely his best bet is to go with the safer option of being guaranteed a good wage and then onto bigger things (wages). He's got a better chance making that money playing then he has if he chances sitting around hoping for other clubs to loan him as they weren't forthcoming this summer
Spurs Allday
We definitely need at least one permanent striker. We have Adebayor but only on loan. If we can sign him permanently then that will be great. Apart from him we have Pav who is gone (whether he wants to go or not) and Defoe. Defoe has improved with Adebayor creating space around him but without Ade he is nothing more than a mediocre mid-table striker. His best is behind him. In addition to Adebayor we need another permanent first class striker. Damiao for me. As pressing as the need for a striker is competition (or God forbid a replacement) for Modric. I don't believe we have a player at the club able to play in the creative, forward central midfield role apart from Modric. If he gets injured or leaves then the whole system has to change. This is a critical position we need to cover. Badelj is someone we should be pushing very hard to get in January.
SpuriousLife
2 months 2 early for this article....people like u will be writing will Modric be leaving in Jan also....relax enjoy the shamrock game, arsenal game n then when it starts snowing Dec time then post this
JattYid
Ur club don't have money to buy good strikers....you now depend on big clubs reject...u lot will probably get chamarck on loan in january & Adebayor is just u lot to get a big club next summer...
dtm
By the way does anyone know where i can get the chocolate Mansion shirt from 4-5 seasons ago???? gutted i didnt buy it then
JattYid
JattYid maybe Ebay there's usually old shirts on there. You can get them brand new with tags and packaging so that might be your best bet.
Spurs Allday
With regards to Modric, I believe both Sandro and Parker have the ABILITY to play that role (when fully fit, in Sandro's case). They can both play box-to-box and create with passes, and sure neither are the creative genius that is Modric, but I think either could adequately fit in. Yet to see it of course, touch wood that we won't have to... Striker and Left CB most important in January. Quite happy if Gomes stays (although he won't be)
tengboon
And WGT Adebayor, I think if anyone can find a way to work the numbers and get him here on a permanent, Daniel Levy can. Probably more factors involved than even we lowly pundits can fathom.
tengboon
Gotta be fast cause my boss is calling me....easy answer: Sign Leandro Damiao now, if he´s not already signed, I mean. Lad is a natural born striker.
AlexSpur
Speaking of strikers, anyone know about this Seydou Doumbia for CSKA Moscow? 23, Ivory Coast?
tengboon
dtm=dim thick moron, do one, bye.
topspur53
SpuriousLife, I was just about to say that about having a replacement ready for Modric (just in case). We need to start identifying targets now and bring that player in the January transfer window. I don't see Modric leaving January, but come next summer, it is going to be extremely difficult to hold on. Even if he doesn't leave, we don't have a natural replacement when he gets injured. The january acquisition would allow us to blood that player in the first team and get settled in, other wise we could be in a very difficult spot having to wait for a season or half to get the team to gel again. Getting a creative midfielder is hard enough, getting him to adapt to the premiership/team and our general style of play is a whole another story.

This obviously does not take from the fact that we still do need another striker. Seeing as how Ade has been brilliant in the past few games, I'm starting to doubt if Man. City would even sell him to us. Regardless, we need a creative midfielder and a proven striker (Rossi?). I don't think we are desperate for a CB, it's a luxury option, plus it would hinder Caulker's (who I rate highly) possibility of getting into the first team.

As has been mentioned before, our January window is hugely dependent on our managerial situation. By then we should have a fairly decent indication on where Harry will be come next year. So although I don't see any mega purchases in the coming window, but it is absolutely essential that we fill the striker and creative midfield positions. I have a feeling Ancelloti, who is still in London, looks very likely to be our next manager, seeing as we have an excellent chance of making champions league this season.
spuradic
are there any links to see this next gen game
norwichspur
By the way, what is this nonsense about Liverpool joining the race to sign Damiao ?? haven´t hey spent more than 50 MM pounds on Suarez and Carroll ?? WTH ??
AlexSpur
Has someone mentioned SWP .............no thank you, .........and on another note this is what i hate reading just before we play that other lot, why can't he just say, no comment.... http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/news/harry-confident-of-overhauling-gunners
spu 4 life
anyone know if the game against Shamrock rovers will be on TV??
Whitehart Lad
Re Ade - Hes surrounded by a world class midfield. Scoring goals, so is picked as a first choice striker. A place where the crowd love him allready and another chance to cement permier league greatness. Sorry he doesnt have that with Man C but does with Spurs. Unless Mancini goes from Man C then he is allways backup. Its all on him. There is space to negotiate with him - so Jod, it is Possible he will consider a paycut. If he is resigned to just ern his money up north then he is giving up on being the best again? Man C still have Teves Balliotelli Aguero and Dzeco. If he has a blinder this season then he still has to compete with them. These are the things he is faced with. He needs to weigh up his own choices. Its out of our hands. Im personaly not thinking about the end of the season yet. Just one game at a time, loads of games to go and we need to enjoy the football he is playing. Simple. Also, the other teams who would look to sign him in the prem - are kind of Man C main rivals. Cant see him being aloud to join Chelsea for some reason. So its on where hes at in his carrear...pay day or greatness? well hes come here to play and he looks hungry to me.
SpursOne2
norwichspur - if it's bigger then the Carling Cup, every chance...I think it's on Sabbatical TV, after the Gardening Leave Programme.
spu 4 life
Whitehart Lad - YES
spu 4 life
Whitehart Lad its on channel 5 mate.
Spurs Allday
the shamrock game is on channel 5 whitehart m8
norwichspur
cheers 4 that heads-up spu.....now all i've got to do is find the gardening leave programme lol
norwichspur
I'd be delighted with Damaio aslong as the price doesnt double from the reported £12m we were willing to pay. Then if we can also sign Ade permanantly that would be swell, otherwise Berbatov anyone?
HuddersfieldYiddo
tengboon - he was a transfer target (rumour) in 2009 - all the news on him google http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=seydou+doumbia+transfer&rls=com.microsoft:en-gb:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7ADFA_en&redir_esc=&ei=286BTqGxF6Sm0QXM3N3IAQ
spu 4 life
i just want 2 see coubialy on something other than utube...anyone think there is any chance of seeing him this season...has he even been included in the europa squad or is he a free pick 4 that 2
norwichspur
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/opinion/blogs/football-spy/Watch-Tottenham-transfer-target-Seydou-Doumbia-in-action-his-best-clips-including-a-16-minute-hat-trick-article239577.html
spu 4 life
norwichspur, http://triffictottenham.co.uk/tottenham-europa-league-squad-submitted/
spursftw
cheers Norwichspur ;)
Whitehart Lad
spursftw without looking then i presume he isnt in it then
norwichspur
norwichspur - Coulibaly wasn't picked for the Europa and isn't a free pick due to him not yet having been at the club for 2 years. So I doubt he'll make his breakthrough this year.
Spurs Allday
no probs whitehart but i think spu 4 life just beat me lol
norwichspur
Souley at 16 yrs old, i can't see it myself, 17 on Dec 26th, How many new Didier Drogba's do we have, in the world? Perhaps they could make a film, starring Eddie Murphy as a young Didier, Predator as the chelsea Drogba, Denzel Washington as the old Drogba, Will Smith as his cousin.......
spu 4 life
dtm, like your text talk, such a breath of fresh air, run along and keep off the big boys site, mind the road..............
spu 4 life
dtm LOVELY POST Ur club don't have money to buy good strikers....you now depend on big clubs reject...u lot will probably get chamarck on loan in january & Adebayor is just u lot to get a big club next summer... NEXT WEEK - ARE YOU LEARNING TO COUNT?
spu 4 life
I had a question on the loan thing - we have Adebeyor on a season-long loan, but what would happen if someone made a £25m (say) bid for him from City in January? Are City allowed to sell, thus breaking our loan agreement? I would hope not but i am not an expert on such matters. I know he cannot be recalled to City, but i dont know whether they can sell him on in that time. As an aside, Also in January, if we have any interest in making his move permanent then we have to move then - that is the only time we will hold enough cards to make the deal work. If we wait until the end of the season, we may be back in the CL places (meaning City may refuse to sell to us as "direct rivals" again) and Ade may have had a good enough year that he will have too many offers for us to compete with....
maxfield123
Na its a season long deal max - cant be sold untill that ends...or it would have to be mutualy agreed by both clubs i think. Next season - Will he want to go abroad again is my question, play in the Italian league, back to the spanish?... this is why its better just cheer him into scoring goals for us and leaving the management to sort it out. To much of a headache ;-)
SpursOne2
Spu 4 Life, cheers for those links. He's been mustard for CSKA this year apparently
tengboon
maxfield123 I think if the loaning club contribute towards the players wages then it can't be broken without mutual consent.
Spurs Allday
We should buy a Latin American CB. They are much better than most British and Europeans ones and they don't cost that much. I've already proposed Silvestre, the Argentinian CH of Palermo. Also last weekend against Lazio he was superb. There are also some other good young central defenders in South America. I've heard also good comments about Lorient's CB Manga. But then you need a proper DoF who can spot such talented players on an early stage given that HR doesn't have that ability. A proper DoF is absolutely necessary in order the club to strengthen its squad in the frame of the current financial and salary situation.
Ioan X
Souleyman Coubaley is not listed as a member of our NextGen team? Does that mean we'll see him on the bench for Shamrock?
tengboon
tengboon he can't play in the Europa he's not registered and hasn't been with the club long enough to be classed as an U21 free pick
Spurs Allday
Don't know why he's not listed on the NextGen site. He did play against Inter in the last game and scored twice so he is in the NextGen squad.
Spurs Allday
Hmmm, well I hope it's just an oversight and that he's still in that squad. Seems a real talent.
tengboon
Have we given up on Khumalo ? I think he has either got to go, or be brought back into the squad in jan or Summer. He is a lot older than Caulker. Don't know how he's doing at Reading?
Spurnik
They've also left out Gomelt who got the hattrick against Inter and Velijkovic who's played both NextGen games thus far. Think its probably because they were all signed after the site last updated the squads so they've not been added to our team sheet. Pretty poor really if they don't update the site regularly, it is an important tournament so i'd expect better.
Spurs Allday
SpursOne2 - Stop kidding yourself, these guys have a short career and make as much as they can in the time they have. Adebeyor is no different to Modric or any of the rest, the cash comes first. As I said before the situation is not his problem, its City's. They are the ones who need to meet the Eufa financial rules next season not Adebeyor. The idea they will voluntarily let him pick up the cash for nothing is ludicrous. If they can't sell (very unlikely) or give him away (still unlikely) they will do another loan deal next season, maybe with us again if we are in the Champions League, anything to reduce the charge on the profit and Loss account. Adebeyor holds all the cards, nothing can be done without his agreement.
jod
Were Gomelt and Velikovic not both trialists, hence not appearing on the club site? (Not sure if we have since signed them up?)
maxfield123
maxfield123 Coulibaly has also been removed from the official Spurs site but I think the other 2 have now been signed but it just went under the radar as they're not as high profile.
Spurs Allday
Thanks Spurs Allday - yes, i remember him being on there previously. It might be that the site is in mid-update? I noticed Tom Carroll has been added to the first team squad page, but when you click on him it takes you out and back to the entering the site page? Maybe they are gradually adding some of the kids to the top team section? (Purely guessing)
maxfield123
Spurnik - Interesting point on Khumalo, his out on loan, who did he go to, because i for the life of me can't remember? Another point in Question, is about PIENAAR, not for me to say, but his been out injured (tottenham player) for how long is it and (tottenham paying his wages) but Captain of South Africa (Bafana Bafana) or Banana Banana, who have a qualifier against Sierra Leone next week, still not certain to make the ANCup as a team, but should we as a club allow him if fit, but not played for us to date, go to the ANCup and risk further injury, but still being paid. Players picking up wages and doing sod for them seems to be ongoing at Spurs.......all the talk about players demands and wages being to high, yet we still allow this to happen. IMO if PIENAAR is not fully fit and at least featuring in the Spurs side, he should be made to stay at home, not swan of to Africa.
spu 4 life
Just emailed the club site; My Question is:- Tottenham Player Souleymane Coulibaly his not listed under any player search engine for the club, is this a oversight or has something happened, only us on Vital Spurs, have been asking this question. Kind regards, xxxxxxxx
spu 4 life
Seems to have been quite a few problems on that site this season with players disappearing, news page not working, youth team transfers not being covered etc
Spurs Allday
Seeing as Sunderland have had such a great start to the season, when are Raging and Frank et al (the perpetual moaners basically) going to admit that the vexing all summer about how much money they've spent was a total waste of time? How many times did we read the drivel that Sunderland would be challenging our team and be a threat to us? Don't start me on the bin-dippers either.
Crissybwoy
Spurs Allday, I read yesterday that they are totally re-branding the club with a new web-site etc, clearly all the work is going into the new site, and not the old one.
Crissybwoy
Cheers Crissybwoy, I look forward to the new site soon then. I agree on Sunderland and Pool they are prime examples of its not how much you spend but how wisely you spend. It also goes to show (in Sunderland's case in particular)that making wholesale changes doesn't work either.
Spurs Allday
Watching Sunderland last night play Norwich, who at times played some really good football (norwich) on the deck, they just lost concentration and let Sunderland back into it, the score line did not reflect the pattern of play, similar to us at Wigan. Sunderland always have massive support at home and will pick up points, but away, they look a side you would bet against. So i would say, back the home team on all sunderland's away games.
spu 4 life
Is the Next Gen match on any tv stations? are links to the game available?
mattyspur
Spot-on spu 4 life, wouldn't be surprised to see Bruce being the first Prem manager getting sacked this season.
Crissybwoy
Has anyone found Souley yet? How can he just of disappeared, what are the chances of that? However, I predict that there is 95% chance that he will be found. Tee-hee-hee. I'm serious by the way.
Fanman
5 defeats on the bounce for Coyle, still want him to take the reigns at The Lane peeps?
Crissybwoy
I have found Souley - Spurs starting 11 from the next gen website - Tottenham Hotspur for match going on at the moment Line-up: 1.Jonathan Miles, 2.Jack Barthram, 3.Daniel Day, 4. Massimo Luongo, 5. Milos Vejkovic, 6. Ozenuga, 7. Alex Pritchard, 8. Kevin Stewart, 9. Souleymane Coulibaly, 10. Laste Dombaxe, 11. Bostock
mattyspur
spu 4 life - how did naughton play last night ?
Spurnik
Fanman - do i get a prize?
mattyspur
We need a new cover for left-back, the Wigan game highlighted this fact if nothing else. Rose is good, but does he have the experience Benny? I's say Benny is 20% the better player due to his experience. We are ok for midfielders anymore will spoil the chemistry. We definately need to replace Pav. Hopefull we'll get Leandro in that will increase our chances getting in the top 4 by at least 30%. Then we have to factor in the possibility of Hary leaving the club. Who would you guys get in if Harry decided to leave, my choice would be Hiddink, he would be effective to a similar atio of Harry I feel. Oh and 3 to power of 0 is zeeerrrrooo. n_n.
Fanman
Agree on both points Crissy, about Coyle, had a good 6/7 months with Bolton and people were lining him up as the next Spurs manager, now he and Bruce are favourites for 1st manager getting sacked, flavours of the months alwaysseem to be popular in here

And about how good Sunderland/Liverpool will be after signing all them average Prem players!! altho I thought Enrique is a good signing.
Ossie
mattyspur, well done for finding Souley, we were looking for him everywhere. In all the places possible. You must have a great pair of eyes to find him. Plus the amount of effort and diligent work you put into finding him, must of been emmence and taxing, afterall, you were looking since yesterday. I'm optimistic about this next gen competition. Hopefully Souley can make his mark, by scoring hat-trick! COYS!!!
Fanman
Our transfer policy in recent seasons has been affected by (a) loss of players like Carrick, Keane and Berbatov to 'bigger clubs', (b) the need to avoid relegation when harry first joined e.g. Palacios, Chimbonda type signings, (c) upgrading our OK players or removing deadwood. We are gradually moving away from being reactive in the transfer window to pro-active and I think apart from an 'A' list striker, we should be looking for the hidden gems - younger players that may take a year or two to make the grade but who have big upside potential. We were in that situation to a certain extent a few seasons ago when the likes of Berba, Modric, Dawson, lennon, Hudd, Bale etc came. The latest examples of this type of signing I guess were the two Kyles and Sandro - would be good if we could start getting these type of players in, who have a lot of upside potential than the lower risk signings we have more generally seen under Harry like Pienaar, Friedel, Parker, Adebayor, which are good, but not enough to take us fully to the next level in the longer term.
Spurnik
I think we need a long, long term solution at centre back. Someone, for the life of me I can't remember who, suggested Angelo Ogbonna of Torino. The lad is 23 and apparently he's the shizz, according to about everyone in Italy, as well as my mate who freakishly watches more Italian football than English, despite having no connection to Italy himself. He's apparently extremely sought after, but isn't an obvious name. Torino aren't big, aren't rich so the idea that we could sign him isn't ludicrous, we could offer them a decent price tag and offer him decent wages. He's Italian but of Nigerian descent, so whether or not he speaks any English, I'm not sure. I think he could learn a great deal from the likes of William Gallas and Ledley King, since he's a similar build and is thought to have a decent understanding of the game (ie not reliant on pace to make up for poor positioning). I think we should get him, then I would still be tempted to bring in two strikers, one big lad who has the ability to work on his tod and one clever, awkward player in a Giuseppe Rossi mould. I think Leandro is very much the name on everyone's wishlist and I can't blame them, as for another, well Rossi's perfect but out of our reach. Open to suggestions there!
bernio3000
Our transfer policy is as clear as mud. In fact we have no transfer policy, and any media type brave enough should face up to our manager and suggest it is all a bit wheeler dealer. And why do we need one occasionally haphazard left back, and a dozen right backs?
lordjohnny
Crissybwoy, can't say I ever particularly wanted Coyle, I think he's done okay at Bolton in terms of changing their playing style, but crikey the results and performances this season have been awful. Kernowboy71 wrote an article about Didier Deschamps, he's absolutely my first choice now. Contract expires in the summer, he's 42 years old, meaning theoretically we could have him for the next 20 odd years, keeping stability in mind and I think he's a big enough name, well respected enough to attract talent.
bernio3000
mattyspur - Furthermore, thanks for naming the starting 11, should be a good flowing game, always is where Spurs are concerned. :-]
Fanman
Ossie, Enrique is a good player, they got him for a very good price too. £35m for Carroll, or £34m for Villa? No contest. As for Charlie Adam, was delighted to see him get sent off, remember last season when he tried to 'do' Bale? Could have broken his ankle/leg with that challenge, I hope he drags the bin-dippers down to his level. We at Spurs learnt the hard way about buying average players who need to step up, for David Bentley read Jordan Henderson. Glad Comolli is working his magic elsewhere.
Crissybwoy
lordjohnny, seems odd, our obsession with right backs dates back a good few years now. Personally I'm happy with Rose as cover for BAE, I think he's shown enough maturity and doesn't play like a left-wing wannabe, he's genuinely good at defending.
bernio3000
Good post bernio. We definitely need someone with profile to take us forward.
Crissybwoy
Spurnik, I totally agree!
Fanman
Crissybwoy, I totally agree.
Fanman
bernio3000, I can't resist agreeing with you. Oh and I agree with lordjohnny too!
Fanman
tell vdv to stay up front and don,t daredrop back or he will be replaced, after all he knows where the back of the net is and he will score a darn sight more goals than defoe ever will
whitehartmart
Fanman, I disagree with the amount of agreeing that is going on.
Crissybwoy
Yeah Crissybwoy, I used to think "what's in a name?" but really we can't attract players with a 60k capacity crowd, extraordinary wages and for the time being Champions League football, but if we have the right manager in charge then they can certainly help. Ask someone in Italy, Spain, Germany or France who Owen Coyle is and they'd probably slap you in the face for wasting their time.
bernio3000
mattyspur - top stuff, well done, maybe he was in detention, that's why we could not locate him, bless..........I will say this though, his some player for his age, watching those goals on video, the kid has talent to burn, for what nearly 17, his the size of a brick out house, you know the one :-) long may his progress continue, into a top player for us..........
spu 4 life
Crissybwoy, its ok i've cooled down now, you guys were right though.
Fanman
Spurnik - Kyle Naughton looked comfortable on the ball and the way Norwich play, suits him, he did not take any chances and just played it simple, each time he had it, he never had a winger up against him, because Richardson played left back, well that's what it looked like, though Richardson scored with left foot drive, which went through a crown of players, no he look's ok and the more games he gets the better. He does not look out of place. I like Norwich, we have had some good dealings with them in the past and they always look to get it down and play, it will be a good game when we play them, that's if they can get the ball of us.
spu 4 life
bernio, or instead of slapping you in the face, they'd say, "Yeah, I know him, didn't he do distinctly averagely with a distinctly average team". Thank the lord that people calling for him to be our next manager aren't running the club.
Crissybwoy
Haha, or they'd go "who the feck are Burnley and Bolton and what in the name of t**tting hell does that have to do with the pressures of managing a top 5 Premier League team. :P
bernio3000
Be better off with Horney Helens old Contraceptive coil at Bolton.....different spelling i know, but sounds the same.....
spu 4 life
next gen PSV 1-2 TOTTENHAM coulibaly scores again
spurs-stelios
Sorry - still recovering from Summer and can't contemplate jan window on this site :)
Windlespur
This site is quiet when things are going alright for us. spu, are we still running with the fact that HH isn't a man?
Crissybwoy
Crissybwoy - could be a she-male you know...HH, ......Windlespur, your still trying to get over the summer transfer window then, have you tried counselling, maybe a dark room on your own may help, it worked for me :-)
spu 4 life
If we want a 'British' manager the work that Nigel Adkins is doing at Southampton and previously Scunthorpe with no money and an interfering board that has had to be 'educated' is little short of outstanding IMO
kernowboy71
We need another striker as Pav is a lost cause and is just not good enough or in the right frame of mind to be a Spurs player. If bey gets injured we have no cover now with Pav's dis interest and poor performances of late. Defoe has improved along side Abey and we have yet to see how vdv plays with Abey but we need cover for Abey. What I have noticed since Abey has come is the obvious quality he brings compared to the likes of Pav and Defoe and Crouch he is a total difference class and that is what we need to take us forward even more. Another quality striker on oar with Abey with Defoe and VDV being part of a four man strike force. That woudl be good enough but would that be! We could do with back up for Lennon for when we play 4 4 2 but i think we are fine everywhere else for this season. Next season we need a new goalie to step into friedal boots when he gpes but he is fine this season and probably next.
thfan
Signing a striker permanently will be good. Leandro Damiao for a start, but if things go too expensive, then I'll chose Demba Cisse. At the end of season, try to sign Adebayor on permanent and we're ready to rock yea :D
what_sux
Demba Cisse is definitely a striker I'd sign and if we played him and Adebayor up front it'd be absolutely deadly as both are quick, both are 6 feet and over, both have great movement and a decent finish. I do like the way Defoe has started the season, as one of his biggest critics I didn't foresee a situation where I was praising him, but he looks sharp, looks fit and has started dropping a bit deeper. Still think Cisse would be an upgrade though and would probably be better suited with van der Vaart supporting than Defoe will ever be.
bernio3000
Ox, good balanced article, If we cannot get the Russian cannon firing, or convert the Dutch clogs converted to an all out striker, we need to swallow hard and find the coffers to pay Ade's wages or look elsewhere at the end of this season. I thought we might need to sign a younger keeper too but of course a wize head between the sticks is always welcome. Age and tretchery will always defeat youth and skill! COYS.
hotspur58
Lionheart, in agreeement. Fans are often like jackdaws, wanting bright new shiny things such as Ancelotti etc, but Moyes is mentioned as a candidate and before Everton, he was at Preston North End, which I think provides more insight into getting great bargins like Jagielka and Cahill. Adkins has outperformed Moyes at the lower level. And as a former pyshio I can't help think our injury list would disappear.
kernowboy71
Kb71, I would say Adkins is more of a bright shiny new thing, than Ancelotti.
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