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WANTED - Defender or two

At the end of last season we all drew up a list of who could go, thinking that if most of the list went it would be good bizz. However Daniel Levy has embraced this window and a number have gone and if we believe the ITK (yes I know, just go with it) we could find ourselves short at the back. With Gallas, Bassong and Khumalo all linked away.

So in my 'gang of 25' for a 60 game season I start from the position of 9 backs(5 CD 4 FB). IF this was to pan out we would have in the middle Kaboul, Vertonghen (pretty please) Caulker, Dawson and A.N. Other.

This 5th man isn`t looking at too much game time (yes depending on the manager) but could well find himself on, off the bench in the Europa league, coming in at end of season etc. So do we look at a 'Nelson type' seasoned pro who can step into tight cup game. After all Nelson didn`t let us down and possibly explains Olsson link earlier in window? Or do we want a younger less experienced player? But with all the older CDs leaving this window will we attract a good player for this role?

Two other points 1) Caulker is (I think) a free pick still next season 2) The joker in the pack - King. Who I previously said should retire but... Should we have held on to Uvini in that case? Or do we put a stop on Bassong leaving and keep him till manager has clearer view and release him next window or 2?

Fullbacks - Walker and Benny. Then Naughton who I like and would keep but must get lots of game time. Plays both sides. Do you risk going with 3 and loaning out Smith with a recall built in? Or do you keep him at the Lane but with limited game time? Smith, like Caulker is a free squad pick for the season, which may allow for the option of retaining players or having an inflated squad, just in case. As for Rose if the Baggies want him, yes go, learn and make mistakes and then we can see if he will cut it at PL level.

The other point is that we have some midfielders who can drop back but is that the best use of them ? Well gents, thoughts?

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Date:Saturday June 30 2012

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Your Comments

Bye !!

coopsieyid

can it be?surely not?

Carrickspur

damn you coops damn you!

Carrickspur

you off out coops lol

norwichspur

Coops ''Bye'' - Carrickspur ''can it be? surely not'' and damn you coops, damn you ---------------sounds like the phone call from Harry to Coops when he got the boot.............

spu 4 life

Coops ''Bye'' - Carrickspur ''can it be? surely not'' and damn you coops, damn you ---------------sounds like the phone call from Harry to Coops when he got the boot.............

spu 4 life

gonna be an interesting week methinks...revolving door at the lane

norwichspur

See ya then !!

SUper Yido

5th CB? Lucio on a free transfer anyone?

what_sux

Caulker Dawson Vertoghen and Kaboul and keep Ledders !!! He still has something to offer and had the experience ! Fullbacks yes Benni and Walker get Naughton back but we do need a decent young left back Rose isn't up to scratch in my opinion and Naughton looks ok there but not up to Benni's class !!

SUper Yido

Anyone read about Bale getting injured and being ruled out I the Olympics ??

SUper Yido

Yes what_sux !! He can be Sandros mate !!!

SUper Yido

i hope thudds gets some good game time, i still rate him highly

spurs50yrs

We really don't need to worry about a top notch 5th choice centre back. Someone in the King/Gallas/Nelsen mould is all we need. Dawson, Kaboul, Vert and Caulker is more than ample for our first choice 4.... As for the full backs, Benny is likely to be one of the first victims of AVB's system so I would imagine we will be in for a new left back. Walker, Naughton and Smith are all capable of competing for the right back position.

Dave the Yid

Dave why do you think Benni will be a victim ? Porto always had attacking full backs so why would it be different for us ?

SUper Yido

I hope we're not all getting our hopes up too much for next week.

Tottenham Hotcore

I hope we keep hold of Gallas as King looks likely to retire from playing. Sandro &, Thudd & Livermore can all be utilised @ the back, but we don't want them playing there unless its utterly required. I'm worried about Daws tbh, I love the lad, but his injury record is getting worse & he's more of a liability then he is a reliability... Sad but true.

Bassong MUST be sold, Khumalo didn't make the grade, Uvani (who knows what didn't work out there ?), King retiring, Daws & his troubles then the possibility of Gallas moving on... That's pretty scary stuff. We USED to be a Team that was only missing a decent Midfield. Now, we're missing Gk's, CB's & St's !!! Wtf ???

Whoever comes in they will have a MASSIVE job on there hands, the recruitment alone is a nightmare, nevermind laying down a new system ready for the EPL. Nervous yet. exciting times ahead ! ILIT TTID COYS

Tot-Nam Vet

Super Yido - AVB likes a well regimented back line. Benny is probably my favourite player, but his cavalier attitude will not sit well with AVB at all. I fully expect a new LB to arrive this summer

Dave the Yid

if we get in vertoghen, retain naughts and gallas we'll be alright at the back. loan out rose and smith, get them game time and prem experiance. jan can cover benni when needed, allowing caulker and daws more game time. depending on how good a season smith has, naughts can be sold next summer. he did well at norwich this season, but made a few too many mistakes for my liking, and will never displace walker as our no.1 rb.

dukey_nrg

massive job on there hands you have to be joking a great squad with 3 players comming in that will do

spurs50yrs

I would have Kaboul and Vertoghen with Caulker as back up in the league. Kaboul/Vertongehn and Caulker for Euro games and Dawson and Caulker for the League cup games. Also i would keep King for the coaching role and keep him match fit just in case we really need him.

spurspanther

Bentley QPR £5m. just heard it 90% done deal.

spurs-stelios

Loan smith vertonghen can cover lb kaboul can cover rb if we are hit with injuries, that would leave a cb pairing of dawson and caulker which aint bad ....

Audere est Facere

The way I see it is that Walker, Ekotto, Dawson, Vertonghen, Kaboul are a given assuming Vert signs. At RB, we need to make a tough choice on Naughton. He's done enough loans and now is the time to integrate him in or let him go. At LB, we know Vertonghen is accomplished there as we saw against England. We don't need a wing-back type at LB anyway with Bale in the squad and I think he'll cover. My feeling is that Rose needs a season away but this time in the top flight.

Centre half is the tough area. We all blindly believe that Caulker is good enough to be part of the setup now. From what we've seen at Swansea, not sure anyone can argue different. I'm guessing Khumalo and Bassong are on the move so the question just becomes should we retain Gallas for one more season. To be fair to him he has played well when fit and guided our younger centre halves through games but probably earns a decent salary. I wouldn't write him off just yet or even King. As for Uvini, who knows whether we will use the clause to make him permanent or whether he'll play a part. He could be great or simply go the same way as Defendi did.

Personally, I see no point making any major signings other than Vertonghen until January in the defensive areas. AVB should have a look first. Perhaps he can even make a great centre half out of Dawson. I doubt it as every other manager has failed.

muttley

Off topic I know but what will be very interesting is to see what happens up front. I mean we can't go into a new season with JD as the only attacker in the squad. Even if Ade stays, and personally I doubt he will, we still need another FWD. It's almost like we know something no-one else does, like the FA are going to ban all forwards and replace them with MF's.

Cape Town Spurs

Dawson to QPR would be good business, as they seem to like helping us out at the moment and lets face it- his value won't be climbing higher anytime in the near future. And promote a young talent to learn alongside Gallas/ King/Seb in cup games

van der haart lane

muttley dawson is a truly awful player. i love the guy for his attitude and commitment but can't go to the floor well, has no positional sense and absolutely no pace. add to that the dawson diagonal which continually throws the ball away! so im with you on the fact that avb doesn't stand a chance with him

spurticus87

Smith looks a far better player than Naughton who struggled for me last season. He always seem to be beaten by the winger when I watched him.

Med1

I think it depends on the versatility of some of our players. If we play a 4-3-3, then basically we need a minimum 8-6-6. Add 3 keepers and we are left with 2 players. In the forward group, I'd want two wingers on either side and 3 centre forwards (7) as well as 7 midfielders so we only have 8 defenders. I see Naughton as covering both flanks, Kaboul being able to play at Right Back in case of injury, Bale possibly being moved back to Left Back in case of injury and even Huddlestone as a Centre Back (at a pinch in the same way as a poor man Martinez). If we say our full backs are Walker, BAE and Naughton and the Centre Backs are Kaboul, Dawson, Caulkner and Vertoghen (?) who we've seen can also cover at Left Back, I think we just need to sign a young Centre Back - if it is this youngster Jamaal Lascallas from Forest, then I think we are covered here.

kernowboy71

Oh and as for the poll opposite ... madness? Moutinho has a buy out clause of £40m so even with a discount of 20% that is a total of £32m. The sales of Krancjar, Corluka, and Dos Santos cover the cost of Sigusson and Vertoghen. We have these midfielders under contract who we need to get into the 25man squad - Sandro, Parker, VDV, Gylfi, Huddlestone plus Livermore, and Carroll. Are we going to play the Spanish 4-6-0? That £32m needs to be spent on 2 or 3 strikers rather than a midfielder who was good but not exceptional and nowhere near worth £32m.

kernowboy71

I was quite surprised to read this morning that AVB wants to bring in Pereira from Porto, a LB with a release clause of £25.7M. I may be wrong but with Defoe, as we speak, our only confirmed 1st team striker for next season, is this not a case of mistaken priorities. I still think, unlike some on here, that BAE is in the top 3-4 in the PL.

Frank

I think we've got plenty of cover at the back. We've got lots of versatile players and with the addition of Vertonghen we'll be well stocked. If anything we should only be looking at young defenders for the future but we've far more pressing matters.

Struggle to see anything other than papertalk in the Moutinho/Pereira links. Lazy journos linking AVB to a few ex-players. Why would we seriously be looking at spending a combined 55-60mil on positions we're well covered in when we only have one striker(who can't even play as a lone one) and a no1 who's 41 and a no2 who's 39?

Spurs Allday

We're now linked with Oscar from our Brazilian partners as a possible Modric replacement and Blanc has left the French national team job

Spurs Allday

Moutinho is not worth 32m....Real have two fantastic LB's can't they throw one into the deal for Luka...I'd prefer Marcelo but not fussy....but now Larry White is available it'll be interesting who we appoint on Monday....

shedboy2

Inter Milan have released Lucio. Take him in a heart beat, speaks Pork and Cheese too :)

thenuge

See Blanc has left the French job, maybe we should have hung on, but I suppose it's getting late.

Frank

With regards To Modric, thev reasons he wants to leave are immaterial. It mght be ambition, it might be pure greed, or a feeling he just wants to move on. Whatever the reason, if he don't want to play for Spurs, then get rid for the maximum amount of money, and move on. There was a club here before Modric and there will still be a club when he is gone, we will recover. I have been around a long time and he is far from being the best I've seen in a Spurs shirt. As the song goes "we will survive".

Frank

Bare in mind Vertonghen is very capable at left back so would offer cover for BAE is required. Also Adam Smith is a much better prospect than Naughton. Unfortunately for him we have Walker but how about some good coaching and turn him into a LB like Lahm?....I think with Kaboul, Vertonghen (Please), Caulker, Dawson, King, BAE, Walker, Smith and Naughton we are more than comfortable in regards defensive cover.

CGan1

you wonder if Blanc's refusal to renew his contract with France, may throw the cat amongst the pidgeons, or whether this announcement is part of the plan. I have read that AVB is not getting his compensation in one go but in installements per month, and that it would stop the moment he was offered a position, which means unless he walks into a very high paid job, he loses millions in salary - the July date being a smokescreen because no-one understood his contract?

kernowboy71

Frank - Spot on regarding Modric.

CGan1

Apparently AVB's settlement said nothing about him joining a Premiership team but has him being paid £100k a week rather than being paid a lump sum. If he accepts a new job, he loses the balance. He is actually owed the better part of £5.2m a year for the next two years by Chelsea UNLESS he accepts another job. This is 25% more per year than we were paying Redknapp. Could the delay with AVB be about his salary rather than the 1st July date? http://www.footylatest.com/taking-over-at-tottenham-could-cost-villas-boas-a-significant-amount-of-money/29680

kernowboy71

I see everybody is talking about Vertonghen as if he is already a Spurs player, which of course as yet he is not. I will not condsider it done, until I see him holding up a Spurs shirt.

Frank

KB71 - I'm not sure how much of a delay there really has been. Levy has been in America hasn't he? The meetings/interviews over last week or so and the discussions on pay, transfer money etc. Has Levy been talking to other managers? Who knows. Even so AVB was most likely decided this week with announcement decided for beginning of July. It's a big decision that Levy wouldn't rush. Personally think it has taken a pretty normal amount of time. All this about AVB not being allowed to be announced before July 1st makes no sense.

CGan1

Big things are just around the corner, 1 week from Monday things will be very different. I can't elaborate as I don't know any details, but all I can say is sum1 with ties to the Club (who himself doesn't know everything) told me that we'll be very excited about. I know I sound very vague & it's something that could be easily spouted out in the red tops, however I'm led to believe its true (whatever IT is ! Lmao). ILIT TTID COYS

Tot-Nam Vet

Tot-Nam Vet - Yep. Money money money......

CGan1

CGan1 - if we pay AVB £2.5m we are asking him to take a 50% pay cut. If we pay Blanc £2.5m his salary is increasing 2.5x. Would you take a 50% pay cut?

kernowboy71

Walker, Kaboul, Dawson, Caulker, Naughton and BAE. Vertonghen as a new signing and (don't shoot me) Bassong as I think his pace will suit an AVB type defence. A newkeeper please as Brad and Carlo are approaching the end of their respective careers. Vorm or Krul perhaps, although I can't see either Swansea or Newcastle wanting to lose their first choice keepers. Kabou can cover right back and Vertonghen can cover left back. All we need is the announcement of the manager and new signings. Fingers crossed.

spurboy61

KB71 - You make a good point. It is the decision AVB has to make (and probably has) as to continue being out of work or get paid less in work with one of biggest clubs in best league with huge potential. It's gonna be the latter.

CGan1

It just seems too much of a coincidence that blanc decided to cut his ties with the FFF. As been said above, would you take a 50% pay cut from doing nothing to having to actually work. Only we are die hard spurs fans and would take the job on for nothing it seems silly for him to consider.

Caoimhin

Personally give me the choice of AVB or Blanc, I'd choose Blanc. However, although I'd love to say we could rely in Blanc for the long term, we all know he'd probably be using us as a stepping stone to Utd & only last 2-3 seasons b4 moving north. Whereas AVB would (if successful) make a point with us towards Chelsea & prove he WAS the correct man to bring in continued success over the next 10+ yrs. My ONLY concern with AVB being our Mamager is the element of player power / media spin against him. I believe AVB has the potential to be a very successful Manager & I'd love him to do it for Spurs, but with 'Appless

Tot-Nam Vet

Arrys best mates of the press upset & already vying for AVB's failure, I feel the pressure would be too much. Sadly.

Tot-Nam Vet

I just wish the business we look to be making this window could have been more gradual. We're making so many right steps though. I like Corluka, but he wasn't in our plans as a first team right back, so adios. Ditto with Kranjcar. Looks like Gio is off too. Gylfi is a creative midfielder that can challenge van der Vaart + Modric, but I feel someone like that should have been brought in previously, so that when (not if) Modric leaves they'll have had a chance to get used to the club. Same with new strikers, for which we need 3 I'd imagine, they're all going to have to bed in and get used to the club, possibly the league. Still, as I've said before, I'd take a step back next year if it means we can a leap forward in the long run. At least it feels like we're doing something now.

bernio3000

Tot-Nam Vet - Looked on Sky Sports earlier and like 4 of the 6 main articles were Harry Redknapp related. Sticking his nose into our business. In fact, it was interest I've seen him have in Tottenham since he friggin' joined us. His usual retrospective "shoulda, woulda, couldas". Tried to sign Balotelli, just like he tried to sign everyone else we didn't have a prayer with. Funny how this is the first time he's admitted he wanted Balotelli; shortly after his best game for club or country. Prick!

bernio3000

As Blanc has already turned down Ferguson twice I think we are making assumptions. Also any manager following Ferguson is grasping a posioned chalice and I can think of a load of managers being aware of where their bread is buttered and turning that one down. I agree that my major concern is can he handle the immediate media pressure that will come with his recent time at Chelsea and with the hateful Redcrap constantly stirring the pot.

kernowboy71

I think KB71, us as fans won't put a huge amount of pressure on him. Our last season ended in a monumental fu(k up thanks to HR. I think a lot of us, myself included will be happy if he keeps his mouth shut to press unless necessary. Feel like he is playing the game the right way. Makes signings we at least can see the sense in and feel like at least some work is being done in regards certain tactics. The press don't like him because he didn't give them sh

CGan1

Ooops...(cont.) give them **** and they loved HR. He is the anti-Harry is so many ways, thought of how Harry was permanently slumped in seat as opposed to AVB permantly on touch line (squatting). If we hit ground running and win 5 out of first 7 the press won't have a leg to stand on. I would love it, considering all the mindless nonsense been reading in some of papers recently.

CGan1

Whoever comes in will have to get off to a good start. That is their mission. 3 points against Newcastle away (tough fecking start) will shut some mouths. They won't get any sympathy if we lose our first couple of games, despite the fact we did that last season, conceding 8 in the process. We need to make sure as fans that our voices are heard. Harry Redknapp is a scumbag that has the press in his pocket for some reason. The press have already turned him into the victim and our club into the enemy. Their one sided, almost propaganda approach to this whole ordeal has been laughable. Looking on every single Spurs related fan-forum, it's clear that the majority wanted Redknapp out. On the Sky Sports comments page, the only comments published were of pro-Harry fans. The footage they showed in the Euros, fan reactions to Redknapp's sacking was all pro-Redknapp. It's like he's Kim Jong-Il or something. Not a bad word is ever said about him for fear of death. It's sinister! Anyway, in our first home game of the season, I think we should all chant, to the tune of 'La Donna è Mobile' - " WE WANTED REDKNAPP OUT, WE WANTED REDKNAPP OUT". Get that s**t on live TV. Having said that, I bet some "technical difficulties" would arise and the footage would never be shown haha.

bernio3000

Where's Coops today? Ah well, here's some ITK bollox that he usually dishes out..... Who: Nailsy When: Today, 30th June. Gizean: Big Announcement. ... My daughter has had a text before Brazils comments, and, it would seem that the appointment may be a WHOLE lot more than any suspect.........Pep Guardiola is being mooted! hence the delays etc, plus something to do with 'another party' (takeover/sell-out?) It is all very hush, hush at the moment and extremely difficult to get a proper hook on it. But, there is going to be one BIG announcement that will shake the footballing world apparently! This was post by Bizness who stated that Gilzean is not a wind up merchant- great work Biz!!! Read more: http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7512717#ixzz1zIxninXd

zombie-greavsie

bernio3000 - There is a strange likeness between HR and how Kim Jong-Il looked. Pretty sure even the north Korean would realise Bale plays on the left though....

CGan1

What_sux, can we have a picture of Kim Jong-Il and HR posted here please hahah....

CGan1

Skysports news understands that Harry is a Gob5hiite & can`t keep his nose out of our business .

Well done Levy for getting rid of Harry Redknapp .All he`s doing now is making your decision prove more correct every time he opens that big mouth of his .

big cockeral

Pep Guardiola... Spurs new manager....big signings ahead...

Yidmarks

Pep Guardiola... Spurs new manager....big signings ahead...

Yidmarks

One and the same...

bernio3000

Bit harsh on Harry, boys I wanted him out big style but still hats off for what he did achieve he raised the club's profile higher internationally then it had been for a long time, built on the work Jol started with our league finishes and probably over achieved in terms of whata Harry Rednapp was expected to do. So lets not throw the baby out with the bath water when it comes to harry. Yes we hated him but he's gone now harping on about him seems a tad churlish to my humble self.

Slurms McKenzie

In regards to the sky love in with Harry they are proably courting him for a cushy couching job with the Sky sports news team! who doesn't love a sound bite from harry will waffle on for minutes and actually impart nothing in the way of facts or sense. Perfec' for a 24hour sports news chanel

Slurms McKenzie

And I take it bernio3000's photos fecked up the site again?

Slurms McKenzie

Slurms, it was already fecked I can assure you of that much. The coding I used couldn't have disrupted it like that. Also, to be perfectly honest, I think it's Redknapp's personality which makes Spurs fans unable to rest easy, more than his achievements or perceived lack of. He did well with us, but he made the decision to get on his high horse and he hasn't shut up since he left either, about how good a state he's left us in and whatnot.

bernio3000

Don't know if anyone has seen this delightful little compilation yet but just some pleasant viewing for all who fancy it :) http://www.talksport.co.uk/magazine/big-picture/120701/sexy-euro-2012-wags-pictures-175571?p=8

cheekychick79

doesnt seem like bernio fecked it up. Lets see if this fixes.

luffy#9

Ah yes, it does.

luffy#9

bernio300 - unlike a certain Mr. Rednapp I am man enough to admit when I get something wrong, and I was wrong in accusing you of damaging the site. For this I can only apoligise and hope that at some point you could see your way to forgiving (if not forgetting) my poor delude self. As regards Luffy: Luffy, Luffy he's da man, If he can't fix it, No one can!

Slurms McKenzie

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