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New contract for Steven Caulker!

Caulker who has continued to grow with one outstanding loan after another, with Yeovil, Bristol City and last season with Swansea in the Premiership could very well cement his place in the Tottenham squad and who knows, team, next season as he continues his development, that I remain convinced will lead to his becoming an integral player for club and country, perhaps sooner than many people expect.

It is easy to forget that Caulker is still only 20, but already has approaching a hundred senior games under his belt and I can see many more to follow, and such is the hight of which I rate this young man, I will confidently predict he will follow in the line of superb home grown centre halts of Sol Campbell and Ledley King, though I hope he has the loyalty of the latter and the knees of the former.

If we assume that We retain Michael Dawson and Younes Kaboul, conclude the deal to sign Jan Vertonghen and bring back Caulker, I believe that we have four outstanding centre backs, and it will be a difficult task for Andre Villas-Boas to keep them all playing and happy, as you can't see any of them being happy to sit on the bench for any length of time.

Over the last 12 months, it has become increasingly obvious that we are bringing through several players that are not only outstanding footballers, but who also have a strength of character about them. I look at the likes of Sandro, Bale, Walker, Livermore and also include Caulker in that group.

I met Caulker when he was playing for Yeovil and even as a teenager, he had an aura and presence that was almost intimidating, and all I wanted was an autograph for my son. That isn't meant to be anything but a compliment to Steven who was extremely polite, but was also still in game mode, and was probably still fuming from an FA Cup defeat, though his performance was excellent.

Following on from the appointment of a new manager and a big money signing in Sigurdsson, this new deal is another excellent and positive piece of business for Tottenham, and I almost feel greedy in wanting more...




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Date:Thursday July 5 2012

Time: 1:54PM

Your Comments

just like Brazil at the Olympics - GOLD!!!
YT_Boy
Great news
thfc1882whl
Good news!
taniban
Well Done Caulker - It's good to see DL securing the future of Spurs with players that will be giving Stevie Perryman a run for his appearance record!

Caulker could well do this or at the very least challenge Mabbsy's number!

ILIT IAVBIT COYS
YT_Boy
It's been a cracking couple of days for us. Bale, AVB, Sigurdsson and now Caulker! Vertonghen has said that he hopes to be joining us by Monday so there may well be even more good news on the way!
Spurs Allday
THE FUTURE IS BRIGHT THE FUTURE'S LILYWHITE !!! Keep the Faith!! Good Times are Coming!!! :)
redhotspur1234
Looks like we are forming the basis of a squad for the next few years based on youth, quality and potential. I think this is the best strategy we could have formulated. We only need to look at Ajax and Barca to see that it works with the correct people in the right positions. It is exciting times again. Lets hope that potential signings like Siggy can see that as well.
vicspur
@ YT_Boy ..... Hope you're right mate and we're looking to keep our best players. Don't want to see us cashing in on players who may well be capable of emulating some of the greats we've had in the past. For me it's important that we make Tottenham Hotspur Football Club somewhere that the best players want to spend their whole careers, or at least the years when they're in their prime and that means winning trophies. Hopefully this is the start of something big for the club, God knows we've been waiting long enough. Keep 'em coming Mr Levy and this old sceptic may soon ending his posts with ILIT. Not just yet though.
thfc1882whl
Also shows what idiots the press are saying that the players are unhappy with AVB yeah right!!!! Also didn't they say that spurs can't compete on wages with the likes of Liverpool LOL!!!! Advice to the Press DO YOUR RESEARCH INSTEAD OF COMING OUT WITH A LOAD OF DROSS!!!
redhotspur1234
Good news...even though he's a lifelong Arsenal fan he's a good player and the good news just keeps on coming.
jordtheyid
Vertonghen also said it would feel like a slap in the face to have to stay at Ajax next season. :D
TopSpur13
This is good. I hope we can see a lot more of this promising lad. I had a thought. I know Modric is most likely on his way. What if Madrid lose interest. Things have gone quiet and Modric has not said anything since the Euro's. What i we kept Modric and he signed a new deal like Bale has. What if brought in Joao Moutinho as well lol! I m dreaming I know but you never know. Imagine a 4-2-3-1 with Moutinho and Modric, Bale, Gylfi/Oscar and Lennon. Wow, title challengers or what? For some reason i am getting excited. I feel like this is going to be our bigget transfer window ever.
asherthesmasher
It has been a very good week to be a Spurs fan. A new striker next please (hopefully Ade) COYS
HuddersfieldYiddo
Well done Steven, I have no doubt that he is going to be a top top CB for us. On Modric, well I would be very worried if I were him. A lot of players have failed at Madrid that were better than him, there are players there that you could argue are already doing a great job in his position? He could find himself in limbo if a move does go through, but maybe, just maybe he is having second thoughts? I would if I were him. He could really shine next year with us, but i don't want him if he is not 100% behind us and what we are obviously trying to do.
ledgespur
asherthesmasher - with Defoe as the "1" in a "4-2-3-1", we would struggle. Need to sign a couple of strikers before I get even slightly as optimistic as you are.
TonyRich
I was looking at an ESPN list of average wages of sports teams across the world and Le Arse average is $101,000 whereas we are around $74,000 (half of what number one team Barcelona pay). On that basis we need to keep bringing in young players with sell on potential, which has always been the DL preferred way.
Forever Spurs
Sounds like we'll be hearing an announcement on Gio's departure pretty soon, looks like he's agreed a deal with a Spanish club. Moyes is on the official Everton site talking about Pienaar being his next target.
Spurs Allday
an announcement everyday, i like!
FifaKing
TonyRich, that was assuming we are going to bring at least two forwads in. I don't expect Defoe to be with us next season. I do not see how Defoe can fit nto AVB's plans. I still expect a lot of outgoings and most of the money received going straight back out on players.
asherthesmasher
It certainly would be difficult to keep all playing and happy - in fact impossible. 38 games times 2 equals 76 CB starts in the league - and divide that by 4 CBs leaves 19 games each. Your best CBs should play 30-odd league games, so that leaves little room for Caulker. The only way to do it is to say to Caulker, "You are the Europa and cup first choice". That would guarantee 8 games for him - at least - if fit. But perhaps a better plan would be to send him back to Swansea. Think what he could learn under Laudrup... He would be in a familiar scenario, but is bound to have a tougher season - perhaps a struggling one. A defender has to go through that in order to improve. I say a whole season at Swansea will put us and Caulker in a better position in the long term.
TonyRich
I complained on another thread that I was getting addicted to a daily announcement from the club. new manager, new signing. where was our fix of the day for today? Caulker re-ups for us? that'll do for now. but I want something more spectacular tomorrow. former manager hired as tea lady, or wikileaks has 5000 emails from wenger showing he works for CIA. something, anything. I'm an addict for announcements from Spurs after the opening of this week. Please. Keep them coming. AVB, siggy, now I want a brazilian striker, a belgian defender, a french GK, some thing more more more.
Total knobhead
http://www.nsno.co.uk/everton-news/2012/07/moyes-pienaar-next-target/ would be nice to have fellaini or rodwell in the deal...
FifaKing
Caulker is great news, now a striker and IMO Ade is not the man to lead our line, he's more likely to cause conflict with AVB and technically he isn't that great. First touch is awful. Lets get a young hungry goalscorer in. We have Bale and Siggy that are going to chip in with their fair share of goals, I believe we need a 25+ goals a season man. I have faith in AVB pulling something special out of the bag, I just don't have a clue who it will be. COYS
yiddyboy
You sound like Harry TonyRich. I doubt we will be deviding players for the cups and league as muchas we did last year. There wil be a rotation like there should be, but not to seperte teams. Caulker is probably ready for our first team squad now and if he is good enough, he should eventually break into the first team. I am not a huge lover of Dawson and Caulker should force his way in front of him. Only way to find out is to give him a place in the squad. Lets not forget that Vert is also very good at LB, and may provide competition for BAE, or fill in if and when BAE is injured.
asherthesmasher
Gio looks like he is def going...there's a line in this SS report that speaks for itself. http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/7870274/Dos-Santos-eyes-Spurs-exit
SpursOne2
fantastic news!!!!! he is a stunning prospect and potentially our next king :)
wiltshirespur
Great News, his a good footballing centre half and not a hoof it merchant, just what we need, progress is looking good at present, hope he has a chance to prove his worth. Spurs One2 .....you bring more good news, if it was me, i would call him into the office, Gio about your contract with us, pass me that bin and i would rip it up in front of him, now go and find a new club, close the door on the way out. Useless, serves no purpose what so ever being with us, all those wonder goals for Mexico and still we can't get shot of him.
spu 4 life
Just egt him out sick of hearing his moaning, if he applied himself better maybe he would have got a shot.
ledgespur
i second that ledgespur..
asherthesmasher
spu 4 life - You would have thought even with a new coach he would be willing to try and steal a place..but no. Mind is set it seems... for whatever reasons. Yeah i agree with you after this.
SpursOne2
Great news re Caulker, a really top young CB. If the Vertonghen deal doesn't work out, and you never know, then he is ready to challenge for a spot. Looked good at Swansea last year, now we need to keep him at Spurs and give him game time, there are cup games in FA, CC, EL and hopefully some rotation will see him getting some games in the PL. I think he is already better than Dawson and is still learning.
Frank
If AVB decides to persist with his high defensive line pressing game I really don't see much of a future for Dawson and possibly Hudd. There's no way they would be able to close down quickly or track back at pace to cover anything that gets through. Both good players at what they do but what they "do" isn't likely to what we are going to be doing so I wouldn't be surprised to see them both shown the exit sooner rather than later.
Spurs Allday
Love this article, im an excited little man at the minute http://soccerlens.com/optimism-is-sweeping-through-tottenham-hotspur/95147/ Great signing
Yidd Fein
Ox the intimidating presence is what we need...Sandro has it, Kaboul has it....now (and you're not being greedy) if we can just get us a striker who has it we will be set...as for game time you have to include Gallas in there he still has a year to run..
shedboy2
wohoooo
Oh when da SPURS
Asher, I would suggest that it is not unfeasable that Modric will still be a Spurs player next year. 4 years left on his contract does not exactly give him a lot of bargaining power. RM do not seem to be anywhere near Levy's valuation and I have to believe that if any of City, United or Chelsea want him they will have to pay even more. Modric wants to go, but we don't have to sell. In fact, Levy's words were we will not sell him at any price. Granted we are a year down the road but I have yet to hear Levy state anything contrary.

As to the conundrum of keeping 4 CB's happy, it really is not an issue and is not enough. If King is a player/coach, then we should be ok. One injury like that Dawson suffered last season and we will be stretched. 4 competitions could well mean 55 games. That's a lot. Kaboul, while improving. has a ways to go IMO. His coverage on set pieces is poor. Dawson can only play on the right. Same goes for Kaboul. I am not sure how comfortable Caulker and Vertonghen are on the left, but King himself has said many times he is lost on the right. Fact is we need a CB and cover that are proficient on the left. Caulker, when I have seen him, has been on the right. I believe he is a top talent. Can he play on the left? That I don't know. COYS
peterballb
Great news. Dont think there will be any problem keeping them happy. With the Addition of Vertonghen we will have two very good cbs, One very promising cb and one average. if you are challenging on all parts then we will keep eveyone happy. Dawson will have to decide if he is happy playing a bit part for us or if he wants first team football at QPR ect.
spurspanther
Won't be a problem keeping any of the 25-30 players happy. Because going forward we will be fighting on ALL 4 fronts in the hope of winning trophies and finishing in the CL places. We need them all. If anyone needs a reminder to get away from the 'Top 4 or nothing' syndrome then look at the scum down the road. Keep on losing their best players cos they never win anything and the club is run like a bank. Lets win the Cups AND finish in the Top 4.
StillRickyVilla
We've already 'thrown' enough cups under the Harry regime and for what? To be told we are 4th best and 5th best in a competition. Memorable stuff. Looking forward to AVB working some magic in the Europa and to a couple of trips abroad supporting my Spurs in the New Year! And lets push for Top 4, given the team we have, anything between 3rd and 6th is the most probable.
StillRickyVilla
I am absolutely loving the enthusiasm here, the site has got its mojo back after he that will not be mentioned

This is a potential master class of a season.

Really looking forward to the season, BBC has announced Game date changes due to Europa and Live games.
ro6ertj
if hes not loaned out will we stil lgo for vert,or mayesell gallas and king will he get a quanumber which leaves us wi kaboul anddaws
123spurs
This is really goingto be a new Spurs. I'm lovin the positive feeling. couldn't agree with ro6ertj more.
mattspurs
With the likelihood of us playing a high line 4-3-3 formation we will need to rotate and use all 4 of our central defenders. We will need them to be quick and they will have to cover quite a bit of ground each game so they will tire more quickly. Using all 4 will be easy and they will all get reasonable game time. I hae a problem with Dawson as I don't think he'll have the pace to play a high line. He could be a weakness and would be the least preferred choice of the 4 central defenders for me.
SpuriousLife
Following on from my earlier post we cannot keep Gallas or King. Both are too slow now and will get found out. Sorry but it's the modern game I'm afraid!
SpuriousLife
Agree with you all, I am full of optimism at the moment, and may it continue. In fact I know it will, because AVB is not going to stop with one signing and one contract extension. For me let's get Vert in by the end of the w/end, followed by Lloris. Then we can focus up front. If Rat Face heads out in the interim I really couldn't care less. I really think if you don't want to be at a club then the club doesn;t want you. I can't deal with another summer of please release me let me go with lyrics in Croat.
Cape Town Spurs
and another thing, I'm fed up logging on to this site to see OSF droopy deputy dog jowls staring back at me. isn't there a piece of computer code that can just nuke this tosser.
Cape Town Spurs
yes great buzz going on if we and the players give the manager a chance
123spurs
How will we play and with which personnel. Lots of questions for AVB. Who is a guaranteed starter? Who should be skipper? Bale as wing back? Modric or Bale as skipper? Maybe Younes but defo not Daws. Looking forward to seeing Gylfi play Pool on USA tour.
Wilts Spurs
Modric as skipper! Modric should be horse whipped
Cape Town Spurs
@Wlits Spurs, my knee jerk reaction over, (I was going to throw up but haven't eaten yet today, so), how can you (or anyone) consider rewarding the little Croatian with the honor of Captaincy when he has vocally said 2 seasons running he does not want to play for the club. In my opinion, if the club isn't good enough for the little Croatian, then the little Croatian is not good enough for the club. Taxi to Paris
Cape Town Spurs
I agree he has treated us badly but hope he will redeem under AVB. Just can't think of many guaranteed starters until we see how AVB will play. I'd prefer Kaboul with Bale as VC.
Wilts Spurs
Vert wants to play for us and hopefully will. Kaboom is on board. Benny, well we all know for Benny it's just a job, which shows in his sometimes I turn up for work and sometimes I don't performances. Dawson, for all his faults, lives and breathes WHL. Bale just signed a new deal, Siggy chose us over Liverpoo, Lennon, as much as he can be a one trick pony lives and breathes Spurs, then you get Modric. I rest my case.
Cape Town Spurs
Excellent
thfan
@Wilts, would love to redeem, we all know his talent, but will he. I doubt it but hope to be wrong!
Cape Town Spurs
As regards my earlier post, you'll notice how I didn't get involved in the emotional attachments of our forwards to our beloved football club. That's because we haven't got any! Seriously though, Defoe has in heart in the right place and deserved more of a crack (see Spurs v Aston Villa 2011/2012 season), but I'm not convinced about JD, and if I'm not convinced after all these years... Ade I won't comment on as he is not our player. Which leaves VdV -- I love VdV, not his free kicks, I think he rates himself maybe a bit too much, but would he give his all to the club, I'd say yes. All that aside, my choice for Captain would have to be Scotty Parker. Not a bad poll, Ox, what do you say? Who should be club Captain?
Cape Town Spurs
Alright, too many of my own posts back to back. Going for dinner. Cheers all (wherever you are!)
Cape Town Spurs
Scott Parker is no longer captain material imo .
He won`t play enough next season ,at least i hope so .He`s good but he gets phucked too quick these days .
big cockeral
BIG C, I disagree that he is not Captain material, I think he is exactly what Captains should be made of. That said you have a point that he won't play enough to qualify for the role. Partly because he's getting on (in football terms anyway!) and partly because I hope we play Sandro. That's my vote scuppered then!
Cape Town Spurs
On a totally different note, who else see's this "Google pays me $173 an hour" advert on this site? Who is his creepy Indian looking fellow with the check in front of what look like a rather scrumptious pair of, I'll stop there
Cape Town Spurs
Cape Town Spurs
I did say "no longer captain material " as in was, but not now .I`d give it to Kaboul & def have it nowhere near Bale .Kaboul & a new signing , for me
big cockeral
Out of the current squad I'd have to agree with you, Kaboul it is. But Vert if he joins? I know the best part of nothing about the guy, but he does Captain Ajax so surely he has it in him? Would worry though about giving it to the new boy through the door - that's assuming he makes it through the door! Come on, get the deal done. We all know it makes sense.
Cape Town Spurs
I'd say Kaboul captain, Parker 1st vice captain, Sandro 2nd vice captain.

Wilts Spurs - The players I would say guaranteed to start would be - Kaboul, Walker, BAE, Modric, VDV, Lennon, Bale. Then either Sandro or Parker is guaranteed. That is 8 out of starting 11. Vert will be 9th. Then it depends on us signing a keeper and ST.

On Caulker, didn't he sign a new contract last summer before he went on loan? I'm assuming Liverpool were sniffing around him so we made sure he was on better money. Great potential this guy has though, still a bit to learn but future England CB in my opinion. With us going all out in 4 competitions this season, am sure he will start at least 15 games this year.
CGan1
Still think Parker will have a major role this season. He runs himself into the ground every game. Hopefully we have a manager now to rotate and keep players fresh. I think Sandro Is a quality player and should get more games this season. But still want Parker in the starting 11 more often then not, not nesaseraly in place of Sandro.
spurspanther
Spurspanther, I really don't think AVB will rate Parker as highly as HR did. Outside of his defensive capabilities he is really not a great attacking player and technical skills are far below par. I don't see him as a must in the starting 11. He is not a better player than Sandro and he isn't this teams future and I do not think him and Sandro can play together either. He plays with a lot of heart and there is playing time for him here but he is beyond the most overrated player. I just don't see running around as a skill and sure he is a workhorse but he just lacks a lot of skill and to me England at Euros summed it up. Tackling a ton and once he possessed the ball he had nowhere to pass it because he would just lose it cheaply. Sandro is 1st choice for me by a mile.
RagingSpur
Ox - that mentality you talk about is sooo important. The arrogance and hatred some of the goon players show to us gives em pride and is why they were determined to catch us and won several in the dying seconds. We whimpered along near the end and showed less pride, no guts and you are right. Tough players, winning mentality (like sigurdsson) is what we need. Glad caulker is back in the fold, young, strong and good on the ball. Hope ledley starts coaching these guys.
Windlespur
I don't think Parker should be captain because this becomes a issue that we made with Keane. You are automatically on the sheet and I don't feel that anyone but a goalie should be automatic(assuming we get a decent signing there). Captaincy should be given to a player who will always be on that starting 11 outside of a few rotation games. Is Parker that player? No.
RagingSpur
Cgan - good call about kaboul as captain. I remember him ( and vdv in fairness) being the only two players who were fired up and trying to fire others up in a drab 1-1 draw with Stoke at the lane at the end of last season and thought, yes - next captain for years to come. Interesting that during the period ledley, Gerrard and Terry have been club captains, the goons have had five and all have asked to leave.
Windlespur
I still think our defense is our weakest part to our game. I think Walker is very exciting player but a defender he is not. He got away many times with the likes of King and Kaboul having to pick up on his mistakes but there is no more King! Lets face the loss of King is huge and that nobody in the other 4 is anywhere near that quality. Kaboul is obviously the best option but he is still kind of a raw player. He has much potential but he isn't at Kings level. Dawson had 1 great season in his career but he has been shown to school often and has been facing many injuries. Caulker is still raw potential and not a CB who I can say we can put all our faith in for a little longer. Vert? That would just have to happen first and we need him. I don't think any of the 4 would have the right to be upset. There will be injuries and there will be games for them all but I would like to see a more consistent pairing so they build some relationship there.
RagingSpur
That's fair raging. Don't agree tho. The amount of last ditch tackles in his own box was second to none. Agreed he is not the most gifted footballer but when you have a midfield as gifted as our you still need a player like Parker. Don't think it's just Redknapp who rates Parker in the football world.
spurspanther
Raging - walker is young and needs to work on areas of defending, but to say a 'defender he is not' makes me wonder if you watched him play this season and take a look at his stats. Maybe why as a defender, he was voted young player of the year. Strange.
Windlespur
I think we already have some natural captains in this team. I don't think an armband is needed for them as there are players who can look to each other and be leaders. My fear of giving captaincy to certain players is that they are automatic starter. Who is that in this team? Bale? Yes. Modric? Yes(was but not if he leaves). Outside of that if its given to Parker that means he is expected to be in the side every week! Is that right? I don't think so. Kaboul is at least best CB option and probably will see most the games but I just don't look at him as our long term captain. If we get Llores from Lyon I think that is ideal. He is head to toe the best in his position at WHL and unless he gets injured he will not be rotated. The arm band sometimes just means you are automatic pick but I feel we have leaders on the pitch without having to give them the band.
RagingSpur
No defender in the England euro squad made as many successful tackles in the pl (96) as Kyle walker Last season.
Windlespur
Walker had the 10th best tackle success percentage in the whole of pl last season.
Windlespur
Spurspanther, I honestly have not heard many great things spoken of Parker from everyone. He has a lot of mixed opinions from people. I think in the end he is a workhorse but outside of that he isn't a great footballer all around. He has more heart than any player on the pitch and puts in 100% every week but he does so because he lacks the abilities in some areas. I don't mind him at the Spurs but I just can't rate him as a lock in our team.
RagingSpur
He got player of the season two years ago. And was voted in the EPL team of the year this season. A couple of people rate him
spurspanther
with proper coaching the youngsters will improve and i believe they will get that now.lets wait and see
rovinella62spurs
Windle, I don't care what statistics say for his defending. I can tell you I have watched him be out of position more times than not. He isn't a great defender. He has pace and he is exciting to watch but to say he is a RB who can defend is a bit over the line. He is young a will probably improve but last season as defensive attributes go I was not overly impressed.
RagingSpur
RagingSpur - Walker has work to do on his defensive game. However to say "a defender he is not" is harsh. His defensive game came on massively last last season. He is going to amongst the best RB's on the planet in years to come. Also, Kaboul is no longer raw, he is now amongst the best CB's in the premiership. The guy is a beast now, and will only get better. If Vert signs we are looking at having a defence that isn't far off being as good as Man City's.
I rate Parker highly but think it is time for Sandro to be first choice and Parker to come in when required. Parker does tend to work too hard at times, something AVB will need to look at. However Sandro has the potential to be best DCM on planet, this year is his time.
CGan1
Spurspanther, Parker winning the EPL player of the year...that is very sad for the league. He isn't even in the PL first 11. There is so much more talent than that in this league that I am shocked when he won. He was in a side who wasn't ever supposed to get relegated! I don't get it...I'm sorry he isn't a terrible player but the fact that he is going to win that award is shocking to me. Heart is heart but ability is what I go off..
RagingSpur
Couple of pointers, not for us, but Wet Spam have a Real Madrid player training with them, it's ok all relax, his name is Guti, WHO? Well his 35yrs olds and then they do a VWS forum with ''Spammers not on TV'' i should think not, one you don't put disgusting programmes on until after 21-00pm. Chelski have started pre-season training early, starting the session with a light warm up, then placing a football on the half way line, they all jogged backwards in 2 lines of 12 focusing on the ball as it moved towards them. This continued for 65 mins on day one.
spu 4 life
Btw - if we have not agreed to a deal to sell pienaar, which I am not aware we have, surely the comments from motes about him wanting to be at everton and leaving spurs amounts to tapping up our player ? Interesting.
Windlespur
Cgan, I rate Kaboul very high! I think he has been fantastic but he still has to work on his attitude that has cost him/us in the past. I still see room for improvement there. His physical attributes are of coarse up there with the best and if he had the King consistency I do think he has what it takes to be a great player. I have very mixed feelings about Dawson however. I think Dawson is hard worker but he just isn't young and he isn't consistent. I have seen him on his best and his very worst in the same month and thats why its hard for me to have faith in him. I will compare our defense to City when we do what there defense did. Nobody in this line is Woodgate and King! We lost 2 CB who were class!!! I don't believe we have that City defense...maybe in a few seasons as more development happens but not yet.
RagingSpur
Walker is the best young player in the league but thats because he is exciting to watch. Bale had the same issue at LB but he always looked dodgy in defense and luck for us we moved him closer to goal he looked amazing in attack. I wouldn't mind seeing Walker moved more forward to see if he could replicate Bale on the right. Ideally I see Bale and Walker both as wingbacks in the 352/532. They are good enough defenders...I wouldn't cry to see Bale or Walker at LB in my team but more so for the damage they can do going forward because I do not have enough faith in there defense always.
RagingSpur
Cgan, I know its a team game but the best defenses don't leak 5 goals vs Chelsea and 5 goals vs City and 5 goals vs Arsenal in the same season!
RagingSpur
RagingSpur - Agree regarding the 5 goals. That is where Vertonghen comes in. One of the best CB's in Europe who is going to take us to the next level.
CGan1
cgan, I am excited at the thought of getting Vert but I do however think he is far from the finished product. I think he has potential to become great for years to come for us and with him and Kaboul I think that would be my 1st choice pairing by a mile. I am hoping we can finish this deal already
RagingSpur
I agree with whom ever said it, Parker will not be AVB's type of player. He simply is not technical enough. Add to the fact that he is getting on and his body is struggling to cope. Big fan of Sandro but i think we need another CM with the technical ability especially if Modric leaves. Moutinho is that man and AVB brought him to Porto.
asherthesmasher
Asher, If AVB didn't rate Lampard...he surely will not rate Parker. I agree there is a few players I don't see fitting into his team currently and they might be out of luck. I would like to see Moutinho, Sandro, and Modric midfield but I think its too late for that...Ideally AVB only uses 1 holding player in his midfield with 2 interchanging attacking players and all who are technical players. Its all about triangles and possession with AVB and the 433. We need that striker though...
RagingSpur
RagingSpur - Completely disagree mate. He is the finished product. Captained his team to the title last year and getting the Dutch player of the year is process. He was voted into CL team of year last year. This guy is one the best CBs in Europe, now, not in future. He is a game changer. With him and Kaboul we could have in theory the best CB pairing in PL next season.
CGan1
This is terrible news. Does the lad not know that all the players are in open revolt against AVB becoming our manager. Please can someone sort him out sharpish
In-spurs-ational
if AVB is going to earn his corn it has to be to sure up our defence...you only have to look at the capitualtion that took place at the Haemorroids last sason 2 - 0 up and we just stood and stared whilst RVP (RIP) was allowed to hook his foot around the ball and into the net past Friedel ,only Parker was alive to the situation......if we can show a solid back four keep our shape more and get 8 back in front of goal when we lose the ball then and only then will we stop leaking goals..and lets face it how many times have we given a lead away over the last few seasons...if AVB has been brought in because of his technical knownse he has to improve our defence....Kaboul and Dawson have to be our second CB Pairing, Walker and BAE are too inconsistent at the back ,great going forward but flakey when against better sides....the whole of the back four need looking at and somehow AVB has to get under the skin of BAE and get him to be more disciplined and less of a wild card.....we need to be difficult to break down .....passing the ball along the ground last season was great to watch but when we lose possession we lose our shape and we have to scramble to protect our goal...I want to see more control at the back ....maybe AVB can bring that to our game
OyVeh Maria
RagingSpur - But Lampard isn't a defensive midfielder. Parker has much higher levels of mobility and workrate than Lampard. Parker definitely has part to play considering we will be going all out in 4 competitions next season. However I would like Sandro to be first choice. Would imagine our midfield 3 will be VDV - Sandro - Moutinho (Modric gone) for start of season with Sig, Parker and possibly Oscar in reserve.
CGan1
Sounds a refreshing change eh - going all out to win in four competitions. Hope avb wins Europa league.
Windlespur
OyVeh Maria - No way do we need a whole new back 4. Walker will continue to grow defensively, BAE is fantastic, Kaboul is one of the best CBs in PL. I think the issue has been who has been next to Kaboul, Dawson I'm not convinced by and unfortunately Kings injury problems became so apparent in latter stage of season. Put simply, Vertonghen will solve any defensive issues. It is like having Kompany, Vidic, Vermalen in their respective defences. He's that good.


Not having a striker is the big issue right now for me. If the rumours that Ade is permanent signing this weekend are true that means one of two things: a) He has taken a massive pay cut or b) There is no salary cap anymore. If B then that means there is some serious money coming into the club this summer and maybe Higuain isn't such a ridiculous thought.
CGan1
OyVeh Maria - No way do we need a whole new back 4. Walker will continue to grow defensively, BAE is fantastic, Kaboul is one of the best CBs in PL. I think the issue has been who has been next to Kaboul, Dawson I'm not convinced by and unfortunately Kings injury problems became so apparent in latter stage of season. Put simply, Vertonghen will solve any defensive issues. It is like having Kompany, Vidic, Vermalen in their respective defences. He's that good.


Not having a striker is the big issue right now for me. If the rumours that Ade is permanent signing this weekend are true that means one of two things: a) He has taken a massive pay cut or b) There is no salary cap anymore. If B then that means there is some serious money coming into the club this summer and maybe Higuain isn't such a ridiculous thought.
CGan1
Oops sorry for double post.
CGan1
Delighted for Caulker. He needs playing time and should, in my opinion, line up with Dawson at centre back in cup competitions.
bernio3000
Brazil announce Olympic squad wch will be based at the Goons training ground!Squad includes Damaio, Oscar, Hulk and Uvini. Time for AVB to go shopping down the road!
Wilts Spurs
Cgan.. I did say in prev. posts over last few articles. My 2nd ITK source has said: Joe Lewis ENIC is putting in cash for the stadium and Levy is dealing with the cash for transfers via THFC So if this starts to happen.. and it looks like it is, with AVB, Siggi, Vert. soon,..etc then COYS...
Block D Spurs
I thought this guy was one of the best defenders in Europe, that player being Jan Vertonghen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASfrz_bqmGI&feature=related
spu 4 life
Cameroon have easy draw for Africa Cup of nations so expect BAE and Bassong to be missing for a while at new year.
Wilts Spurs
Wilts Spurs - hope bassong is missing all season, by going to someone else, not good enough for Spurs.....
spu 4 life
spu 4 life I hope so too.
Wilts Spurs
Don't agree with loaning out Caulker this season. We need all 4 (I assume Gallas is gone) of Kaboul/Vert/Daws/Caulker with 16 cup games (FA/CC/EL) with any luck at all that amounts to approximately 30 games for each person for the season. That assumes that we will have some injury time also. That's enough games for each to be happy and keep sharp.
jvd
Duncan Castles tweeted, "Understand that Tottenham have completed the transfer of Ajax central defender Jan Vertonghen. ‪#thfc‬ ‪#ajax"
WDC_Yiddo
tweet was to THFC and AJAX
WDC_Yiddo
Off topic, but has anyone seen the Sky schedule? Seems they are pi$$ed at us giving their soundbite darling the elbow. Just 3 of our games during august, september, october and november. Compare that to €ity 7, scum 6, manure 7, chelski 6, liverpoo 7. Even wet spam are on 5 times.
Tottenham Hotcore
WDC_Yiddo. Might well be true, but he's a journalist. If he wrote it in a newspaper then people would rightly ignore it. Twitter seems to give false importance to bulls**tters.
bernio3000
Agree with everything but Dawson being an outstanding cb too slow, poor positioning and that long diagonal f-ing ball drives me nuts avb won't stand for that 1!
spurticus87
Tottenham Hotcore, I think it's absolutely appalling how little we're on TV. Surely we're a great prospect for viewers. New manager, plenty of new signings and expectation.
bernio3000
Dawson is okay, but a lot of his defending is last ditch, so it stands out, but real quality defenders like Ledley King or our prospective new lad, Vertonghen, make defending look easy by positioning themselves perfectly.
bernio3000
Block D Spurs - Also Graham Roberts said on TalkSport other week that an Arab consortium are investing a lot of money into club (whether that is to do with naming rights or buying shares who knows). He said that played a key part in why Bale signed new deal. Exciting times ahead.
CGan1
spu 4 life - Yep he's also great at scoring goals from corners (if we practice taking them) and is brilliant at bringing the ball out defence as well. He is a game changer of a signing.
CGan1
ITK UPDATE : Both Oscar and L.Damião told Brazilian press that they are focusing only on #Internacional but Oscar admitted #THFC contacted his agent.
sydqcb5
Dawson has played quite a bit of 1st team now including Champs League, he was our captain before getting injured and has been in the England side a couple of time. He clearly hates playing a high line and it's almost as if his best performances are when King has coached him through games. He also failed miserably as a left side centre half which by the way made him even deeper. I'm just not sure he'll be relishing Harry leaving and I'm not sure AVB will trust him enough for him to be happy at Spurs.
muttley
Yeah Raging, i think you are very understanding of what AVB is all about tactically. The 4-3-3 is his baby. Last year ABV did try and change too much too soon as he said. The biggest problem he had was that he didn't have the players to adjust. Chelsea is and have been very much about physicality, pace and power. Very boring to watch. At Spurs AVB should be able to hit the ground running. We already have half an AVB team. The young players will listen and learn. Players like Oscar and Moutinho are just what we need. I too am a big fan of the 4-3-3. A midfield three of Sandro Modric and Moutinho would be a formidable trio and AVB really could not ask for much more for his system if that could happen. I think we will see less of the hugging wingers, but with the total football philosophy Bale should adapt just fine. I could see Lennon losing out on minutes next season with Gylfi and hopefully Oscar coming in. One think that is so important for AVB is the age of the players. The younger they are, the easier they are to coach.
asherthesmasher
According to Brazil media,
From Sunday the Inter lose Oscar and Leandro Damiao . They appear in the national team for the race of the Olympics after the game against Cruzeiro on Saturday, the Brasileirão. All expected to be an office, but can be definitive, at least one of them. The point is that the transfer window in European football matches with the Olympic period and the two players are the two most targeted by Inter European clubs. Oscar arrives to confirm a contact from Tottenham for him. "There was contact from Tottenham. They spoke with my manager, but I'm focused here at Inter, "said Oscar.
"Today I think of Inter. I do not think (it will be the farewell), did not receive bids. If you depend on, get up to 2014, "added Damiao.
The same Spurs who made offer for Damiao last year, now wants to take Oscar. It is one of the priorities of the newly arrived coach André Villas-Boas. The Europeans talk about an offer of 14 million euros ($ 35 million).
sydqcb5
UPDATE : @DuncanCastles Understand that Tottenham have completed the transfer of Ajax central defender Jan Vertonghen

The guy is a freelance sports journalist, so I wont be surprised if Vertongehn deal is done tomorrow finally. #FingersCrossed
sydqcb5
UPDATE (Sighhhh) : 19 year old LB Ezikel Fryers is expected to join Tottenham in next few days from ManUnited leaving Fergie red nosed.
sydqcb5
sydqcb5 - Yes I think Vert will happen on Saturday. Training starts Monday. Ade probs happen soon too. Can see the Oscar transfer happening too when in London for Brazil Olympics. Then it is all about Modric.
I know possible dream world, but if we could lose Modric but gain Higuain and Mputinho that would make us a far better side next season than this.
CGan1
Peterbalb, great point about our CB's, however regarding Caulker, he seemed to bounce between LCB and RCB while at Swansea, although I can't say what his preference might be. Kaboul has deputized on the left a few times without too much drama. I reckon even if Vertongen falls through, which I wouldn't be surprised, Caulker adds enough cover provided Gallas is still on board. With respect to Naughton though, probably another loan season for him.
tengboon
So, let me say this again - Vertonghen deal COMPLETED. Ezikel Fryers is joining us in next few days. Oscar has admitted that his agent is in talks with Tottenham. We are heavily linked with Jack Butland
And to top it, we have signed AVB & Sigurdsson and signed new contract with Bale & Caulker.
Now apart from the above deals, we need 2 strikers & 1 experienced center half. I guess we will be ready for top4 or even much more, if things fall in place.
sydqcb5
We might also need a keeper. Just depends on of AVB can get Gomes back on form
In-spurs-ational
http://m.mirror.co.uk/article?id=1134414/ Article on Ezikel Fryers
In-spurs-ational
sydqcb5 - We already are ready for top 4 as we finished in it. Arsenal have just lost their best player. With the signings we are making we are looking at least fighting it out with Manure for runners up to City.
CGan1
ITK / me.... seems ENIC / THFC have a couple of naming rights options, and a partner in the main stadium deal. So could be part sale of ENIC shares for finance stadium, Joe puts in rest, build stadium, Levy invests in team, successful over next 3 years (will take about 14 months build stadium) Sell up a good possibility after then.
Block D Spurs
CGan1, I think realistically we should be aiming to cement 3/4th place this season (lots of changes taking place) and then look to kick on the following season. Whatever happens, this season is going to be a hell of a ride
In-spurs-ational
cgan1 , never underestimate the scum.Yes, looks like they are loosing their best player, but with the kind of uprorar there in library,I expect to see massive shift in their transfer policy. After all they did do that, on last day after 8-2 mauling with United.
sydqcb5
sydqcb5, why do people keep bringing that United game up. Personally I'd 8-2 keep bringing those old jokes out again
In-spurs-ational
1st Team (2nd Team):-

Gk Lloris (Friedel)

LB BAE (Naughton)
RB Walker (Smith)
CB Vertonghen (Caulker)
CB Kaboul (Dawson)

CDM Sandro (Parker)
RCM Moutinho (Huddlestone)
LCM VDV (Sigurdsson)

LW Bale (Remy)
CF Higuain (Adebayor)
RW Lennon (Oscar)

All players on verge of signing or being heavily linked. All players within our transfer budget and wage structure. (Higuain would be part of Modric deal and currently earns less than Bale. He is only question mark due to us not being in CL). This looks great to me options in every midfield and attacking position. Defensively perhaps get a cheap experienced, versatile defender. Not sure who.
CGan1
Great news get vent in and we are sorted in the cd for years to come.happier days are coming.
bazdog
Why look to cement 4th when Arsenal are on the ropes. Why look to cement when we have young, gifted manager. Money to spend. Great players being signed. Great players at the club. A stadium on the way. This is our time, the future is lilywhite.
CGan1
CGan1, by cementing I meant having fourth place guaranteed with still 5 or 6 games left in the season as opposed to waiting until the last game. Also, although Arsenal will probably be much weaker, can the same be said of Chelsea (or even Liverpool and Newcastle)
In-spurs-ational
Also with all the new players coming in together with a new manager, it could take a little while for everything to gel in place
In-spurs-ational
Tengboon, Gallas is poor on the right and Kaboul is much less confident on that side. Dawson is a right-off on the left. Keeping Bassong could be wise given that he is left sided. To put Naughton out on loan would be a shame. Can play the left or the right, has pace, crosses are far superior to Walker and is miles better positionally. IMO, he is better than Walker, by quite a bit. COYS
peterballb
If we get all of our players in camp early so that we are cohesive once the season starts, we'll be fine. The largest worry now is injuries in the Olympics. Get Vertonghen in soon and add a couple of strikers within the next week and we'll be pretty good to go. Who knows, Coulilaby or others could still impress and Modric could prove too expensive for all. 4 years left means he really does not have much hand at this time. COYS
peterballb
In-spurs-ational - Yeah I'd like us to be 3rd with 6 games to go. Arsenal definitely weaker, Chelsea stronger due to Hazard (Probs as good as us now but not once we make signings) Newcastle same as last season (unless players sold) which means below us. Liverpool, same as last year - unless they find 100m down back of sofa they have no chance of top 4.
CGan1
Naughton to be BAE standin... so back line, Walker Kabul, Vert. BAE, subs daws, caulker naughton, Bass ? Gallas
Block D Spurs
Agree about Naughton, had a great season at Norwich, we must keep him this season.
ItalianYiddo
CGan1, if the rumours are true, it could be us finding 100m down the back of a sofa (imported via Saudi)
In-spurs-ational
Gallas is very experienced but on the left looks lost. He and Daws were horrid together and he and Kaboul not much better. King is our only natural left sided CB -,player/coach? COYS
peterballb
I'm going Chelsea will be weaker. Still an inexperienced manager in charge and that team still has its oap contingent with the premier league getting faster ever year
In-spurs-ational
Going = hoping (damn predictive text)
In-spurs-ational
I think AVB will have an easier task at Spurs as he will be working with younger, faster players than at Chelsea. They will be more respectful and responsive to his methods.
ItalianYiddo
ItalianYiddo, this is my hope to. On the negative side, if AVB is a success with us, rather than being our manager for the next ten years or more, what are the chances he will be tempted by a bigger club
In-spurs-ational
In-spurs-ational - Mate, its 250m :-)........How many Higuain's does that buy...........
CGan1
Who does wikipedia say Ezekiel Fryers plays for Tottenham and signed a contract today. Has a Tottenham fan updated it jumping the gun i assume. Interesting signing, highly rated but turned down Man U to go to us. LB too so cover for BAE albeit he is only 20 in September.
CGan1
CGan1, just think how many Bentleys that would buy and if we get one with four wheels we might even have a use for one of them!
In-spurs-ational
In-spurs-ational, I think that's pretty much on the cards. If he does well we will be a stepping stone, the same as for Berba and Modric.
ItalianYiddo
In-spurs-ational - When we win the Premier league and are playing in a beautiful 60,000 stadium who will be a step up. Barca and Madrid only. AVB has said many times his dream is to be at a club, build a legacy, leave a foot-print and retire in 10-15 years. Chelsea would have been his last job, Tottenham now will be.
CGan1
ItalianYiddo, on the bright side, AVB is young and not a player, therefore in theory he could still have the best part of 30 years or more left in the game. This might mean that he could be our manager for several years before even looking at another job. In that time with the right investment, we might appear to be one of the big boys
In-spurs-ational
CGan1, I agree. Whilst players don't really leave a legacy at a club, managers do. If AVB could see Spurs as being his legacy then happy days are sure to follow for all. And with that I bid you all goodnight. COYS IAVBIT
In-spurs-ational
Not all the media is against us http://www.nesn.com/.m/2012/07/landing-andre-villas-boas-proves-tottenham-can-turn-crisis-into-opportunity.html now I really am off
In-spurs-ational
The site for which In-spurs-ational gave the URL just above is owned by John Henry who owns Liverpool FC.
Total knobhead
Happy poest day to the 9-5's out there. firstly Caulker, great signing. Echo mt thoughts yesterday good timing keep the news coming slowly keep us in papers and dont give press time to rehash old rubbish.
On to of Sigs comments this ends out great message to other players The future is Lillywhite.
spurexile
Must be "manager watch" first three stories I read in papers all about other managers moaning about Spurs. First Rodgers who says he tried to sign Sig for same deal as he did at Swansea ? So Liverpool are not a bigger club than swans ? He is sulking nearly as much as their fans.
Then Moyes on their website I dont talk about other clubs players and then does so! That reminded me of someone , forget his name.
Finaly SAF, moaning about he might lose Fryers. That will be 3rd? member of his youth team he has lost this year. Is this more about how they see their advancement rather than money ?
Also feel its a good sign when other clubs start moaning this time of year.
spurexile
TV FIXTURES ! - a few years back I was chatting to someone from sky about exactly this subject and the lack of Spurs early on. He said that they have to try and spread the games out over the season to all clubs (apart from utd of course) and sometimes they look at who they think might be in the mix come the end of the season. Now this might be twaddle but thought its worth a mention.
spurexile
MODRIC - Not a defence of, but it did occur to me that when he first asked to go it might be as we were not back in CL and he might have felt we would do so again, which of course we didt. If he realised that former manager wasnt going to do it he would want out. He has been quiet this year, but most of the stuff last year came out of Chelseas regular tapping up approach and bored press people. He is a class act and yes I agree at times this year he has looked at less than his best. just a thought
spurexile
On twitter heard that:

1. Vertonghen deal was done and it is just 8 million euros.
2. We have agreed to sign Fryers.
3. Oscar had admitted we had contacted his agent.

It has been good news consecutive this few days and don't tell me later we will have one? Good news..
what_sux
Storts on Zeki Fryers

Who: Storts
Where: COYS
When: July 5

RE: Zeki Fryers to Spurs Goal.com article (http://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/2896...ready-to-quit-manchester-united-for-tottenham)

It's true, we are paying big money contract wise

P.S. "big money contract wise = 20k?"
what_sux
Ali Z on Walcott

Ali Z on COYS:

RE: Walcott to Spurs rumors

NOT true his agent is spreading this story to get him a good deal.
what_sux
What_Sux, in your opinion, you think Fryers will challenge BAE for first-team place? I haven't seen him play, is he good?
tengboon
tengboon - To be honest, I did not see him playing before, but the United supporters rate him as the third prospect behind Morrison and Pogba. Maybe he can challenge BAE's position better than Rose, sadly Rose potential probably not enough to overtake BAE's position.
what_sux
Fryers and Vertonghen are likely today(Friday) Oscar and Damiao have both revealed talks. Ganso is being linked heavily. We've apprently bid for Butland and with brums GK coach leaving for Norwich he may be looking to move on. Throw in the links to Remy and Sturridge and the summer is looking like one designed by Carlsberg
Spurs Allday
Also, I heard Rose would likely be loaned out as well, but with Fryers coming in as LB cover, and Caulker as possible LCB cover, could Vertongen deal now be off?
tengboon
Rumor has it Modric has told Madrid that they have 10-days to sign him or he will stay with Spurs and fulfill his contract. I think that would be great news for us if we could keep Modric and sign Moutinho. So many what ifs....
RagingSpur
tengboon the reports from Holland in the past few hours are that we've agreed everything and he'll fly into England today to clinch the deal, so no mate the Vertonghen deal is very much on and could be announced today
Spurs Allday
HAPPY DAYS :-)
Madaboutspurs
I will believe the signings when its on the official site. Until then it is all rumours!!!
woodyn17
woodyn... yes a lot of rumours.. but some ITK sources really are good as I can confirm, from my own 2 sources.... lets see what the next 7 days show, as by end of next week we will be sorted as to who is signed, and who has gone.. Training starts, and squad ready to leave for USA games.
Block D Spurs
Nice rumours, they are. Recently, some have come true.
Madaboutspurs
What's interesting is the transfer policy that seems to be unfolding. It's very out with the old in with the young, complimented by interest in already established talented players. It seems a movement in the opposite direction to which we was heading under Harry's rule.
RyanHotSpur
Yes, we are moving in a different direction... thanks to Daniel levy. Just think how lucky we are in that Harry's new agent wanted £1m extra on his remaining year of contract. If Levy had agreed, we would be signing Heskey and co... Now we are moving in the direction to be confirmed one of the top 4 clubs in UK and getting ready to challenge the top Euro clubs when our new stadium is built. COYS
Block D Spurs
Spurexile: all the other top 4 + chelski and liverpoo have at least double the games they we do, snd are surely expected to new in the thick of it come season end.
Tottenham Hotcore
Tribunal to decide Zeki Fryers move to Spurs 2m quoted, Hugo Lloris linked with, Oscar and Leandro, some papers also say Ganso all brazilian, at this rate half time entertainment will be in the form of the Brazilian Womens Beach Volleyball Squad, hope they have the lights on full heat....Daily Mail say the Modric to Madrid has hit a problem over the fee, Vertonghen meeting with Ajax over his move, it's Ajax holding this up, not us..
spu 4 life
Vertonghen training with AJax this am. To say goodbye or deal not yet done? Time will tell. Lloris will only leave for CL according to one report at a top5 european club. Surely these clubs already have good keepers though! De Gea, Cassilas, Hart, Valdes, Abate etc
Wilts Spurs
looking like VDV will be on his way. i think dawson's days could be numbered aswell, dont think either will fit AVB's type of play.
topspur53
 

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