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Lloris picks Spurs?

French Newspaper L'Equipe claim that the player has stated his preferred destination is to Spurs and that he wants his future sorted out before he returns from holiday on Sunday. Whether that means he has agreed terms with Tottenham, remains to be seen, but reading between the lines, it seems that all that has to be sorted is for the clubs to agree a deal, but knowing Daniel Levy it could be easier said than done.

Last week, it was rumoured that Spurs had made a bid of £13m, whilst Lyon were demanding offers in the region of £15m, so you would like to think that there can be a deal found somewhere between the two figures...

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Writer: OxfordSpur

Date:Tuesday July 10 2012

Time: 9:39AM

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Forever Spurs

Yes...my first Gold medal?

Forever Spurs

EXCLUSIVE: Tottenham to make improved £13.5m bid for Lyon goalkeeper & France No.1 Hugo Lloris

what_sux

this guy doesn't excite me....I fear we may be throwing good money after bad...:(

shedboy2

1st the worst, 2nd best, 3rd the golden kiwi!

Kiwispur

I'll go back to the main page then. Lol

Kiwispur

Shedboy2...I'd rather have a solid keeper that doesnt excite me than a......Gomes. Lloris would be a great signing.

bish-10

a gamble, prefer someone else...

FifaKing

£14 mil then?

mikethfc

Lloris will be a good keeper for us if this goes throu. It will take time to adapt to English football but dosent it for most? I dont think you get to be Frances number one and caption if your a poor keeper.

spurspanther

I don't mind being proven wrong but I think he's more than a little overrated and from what I saw in the Euros didn't seem particularly great at organising his defence. I personally think Brad is solid enough for at least one more season and there are other areas that need to be prioritised. But I guess if I am wrong about Lloris this may be our only chance to sign him and it's the one position where there isn't always a great deal of choice out there.

flipper

to much money, too high a gamble

topspur53

Hugo Lloris has started contract negotiations with Tottenham, according to L'Equipe

what_sux

Club have to give us permission to talk to him before we can discuss terms.

Med1

I'm not sure why we haven't targeted Vorm or Al-Habsi. They put on some remarkable displays last season and we could have most likely offloaded some of our deadwood in any kind of deal.

RyanHotSpur

ryan- im with you,vorm for me.probley be cheaper aswell as PL proven.

topspur53

bish-10- if he starts flapping at crosses under pressure (and boy did he look nervous during the euros!) or parry'ing (spell) into the danger zone you may like me be wishing we'd bought Butland and spent the rest of the fee on a STRIKER!!! I trust our scouts have done their research cause if he doesn't have the mental fortitude we won't have a keeper...Brad is shot but has 1 year left, Carlo is rubbish (harsh but true) Gomes wouldn't come back from another snub...

shedboy2

Vorm or Krul would be my first 2 initial choices but Lloris is still a very good goal keeper so I would be happy to ave him and again its a huge statement. I have also heaerd we have agreed a fee for Mouhinto (spelling) not sure how much but there could be legs in this rumour

Whitehart Lad

Never know with keepers, I am one of hose who thought we should have backed Gomes more but rather like Robinson when things went wrong we did nothing to re-build his confidence. Still we need young keepers and need to take a gamble or two in our purchasing...better than buying another 40 yr old for a once season 'fix'

Forever Spurs

I'd rather see spurs continue with friedel, cudicini and gomes for another season, whilst we search for a good keeper, than pay silly money for lloris.

82spursdebut

He has been GK of the year for the past 3 seasons in the french league also kept a clean sheet in every other game for France. No matter what happens he will be an improvement on what we have.

spurspanther

one of the best keepers there is eventhough prize is quite high. He has loads of caps so adapting "english" game shouldnt be a problem.

FinnYid

Lloris is without a doubt one of the best keepers in the world, and has proven so over several seasons. Please do not judge him only on one tournament, whilst playing for a team in disarray like the French.

If you apply that logic, you could say that players like RVP and Rooney would not be worth buying, given a chance, because they had a terrible tournament too.

At 25, Lloris is a young keeper, and will only get better with time. He need someone between the sticks with longevity, and to me Lloris is without doubt the best candidate for us, excluding the impossible targets, such as Joe Hart, Iker Casillas et al.

Lloris will already be familiar with Younes Kaboul, having played with him several times for France. He will also have the French speaking BAE in front of him, and if I'm not mistaken, Jan Vertonghen also speaks French?

If we were to sign Lloris, I would be extremely confident in our back 5, and the added bonus is that we could quite easily see that group of players playing together for the next 4/5 years, with BAE being the oldest of the group, at 28.

molesy

Personally not my first choice, but he is a international class keeper. He is definitely better than Friedel, Cudicini and Gomes, but he need time to get used to this league like most keeper when come to BPL. Give him some time, and we will see the result. I think 13.5 million pounds is not silly money, considering how much De Gea was bought for. He is a risk, worth taking for, in my opinion.

what_sux

I do confess to being no Ligue 1 expert, but from what I have seen of Lloris and from what I have read the man is a class act. I say bring him in ASAP as No 1, keep Friedl for 1 more year as back up and let Gomes and Cuddicini go.

Cape Town Spurs

Off topic - Tottenham and Liverpool will both rival Arsenal to the signing of Caen striker M'Baye Niang

what_sux

Big big gamble....and not enough of an upside...if you gamble gamble on Butland he can come in fight with Gomes for the spot and you have brad around for guidance...get lloris and Gomes is gone Brad won't have any input into Lloris who if gets injured will leave Brad to play....well he can manage the odd game but anyone who can see knows his playing days are behind him...time has caught up to him....so if we sign Lloris we have no options....he has to be good!

shedboy2

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11688/7885398/Blues-won-t-budge-on-Butland

what_sux

I'm in total agreement with Ryan, we could easily get either Vorm or Krull by throwing in 1 or 2, maybe even 3, of our fringe players into the deal without forking out too much cash like we will for Lloris. Win/win for both Clubs.

Personally, I think Vorm & Krull have an advantage over Lloris in their Prem experience, however how significant that is, only time can tell as we've rarely or never seen Lloris up against a Prem team. Maybe someone will tell me we have, but I certainly haven't. I don't want a repeat of Gomes who was hot at PSV & total $h1te in the Prem. OK, to be fair, he's more inconsistent than $h1te

Spuds-U-Like

we have promising young goalkeepers on our books, ie. archer, button, janssen. Priority has to be a striker, losing a few players and new stadium. In levy we trust.

82spursdebut

Shedboy- Its a Gamble paying 13.5M on an international GK with 257 games under his belt and champions league experience. But the better Gamble would be paying 6M plus for a keeper who has played 24 times in league 1. Really?

spurspanther

I really hope Levy has a Higuain or Lewandowski up his sleeve cause if we end up with Gylfi, Vertonghen, Lloris and Ade as our signings I will be seriously underwhelmed....Gylfi - had a good half a season in the prem, solid but only potential. Vertonghen the most exciting signing, a player that looks class for a position that we need - well done! Lloris -the jury is out, time will tell but leaves us without back up. Ade will he show up now he has a contract? will he be sharp enough for our new formations? will his demons re-surface -jury out...

shedboy2

I live in France and watch a bit of the local stuff,, and all i can say is, he is pretty good and very highly regarded here.. If he were to work with Brad for a season to help him adapt to the EPL then he will be a great addition to the team... As moles puts it, you can't judge him on a dodgy euro display, when the team(or not a team) was in such a mess under Mr Blanc,, lucky escape there, me thinks !!!

spurster

slightly off topic but arent we all glad that we didnt get Brendan Rodgers as our Manager lol he looks like he may be out of his depth at liverpool. Another Roy Hodgson situation me thinks!!!!!!

Whitehart Lad

spurspanther- yes. Don't forget we have a Brasil international keeper who was once regarded as the best in the world now referred to as a clown (two of the howlers were actually reffering blunders but we'll move on) if we sign butland we are signing potential and a keeper who is commanding and doesn't flap at crosses whilst getting advice from a pro like Brad we also get a chance to rehabilitate Gomes. If we sign lloris and he (as he has done lately) flap at crosses and parry into the middle then we will have to start playing Brad who's body is clearly past it....so 8m for 2 keepers Butland/gomes or 14m for a shaky french man? what's the biggest gamble???

shedboy2

Another vote for Vorm or Krul. Both good eepers with PL experience.

spurboy61

But Spuds what makes you think Newcastle or Swansea would woant our fringe players?? That would only work if those players are in Pardew or Laudrups plans, which I personally doubt.

Ossie

You could say we shouldn't judge players on dodgy international appearences but just one fluke ruined Robbo's spurs career....

shedboy2

spurspanther - It's league 2 and not league 1 mate, for Jack Butland. Southampton got rejected with a 6 million, and the Birmingham boss said only a crazy bid will force him to sell. Well they are saying the crazy money is on his potential, but the potential thing is hard to determined, he could be world class, he could turn out to be a flop.

what_sux

As far as i can remember we are not the best at turning potential into actual ability and often find our 'potential filled' players hanging around on the fringes of the squad,, just a thought !

spurster

Don't get me wrong...if Lloris cokme in and does well I'll be happy and support him but this is hardly a priority, this is the sort of deal that can wait until 11:59 on August 31st once we have done all of our other business and we know how much money we have to play with after buying some bloody forwards!!!

shedboy2

shedboy i think a GK should be high on our list. Like you said Brad cant do it anymore, Carlo is a good no2 but shouldn't be our no1 and Gomes is not good enough. Ade is reportedly done so we should only be looking at one more forward. what_sux league 2 was it? cheers for that, even more reason not to spend the best part of 6,7,8 Mill on him.

spurspanther

I disagree shedboy, decent teams need an able and solid back line to give the creative players the confidence to push forward, and this is the style we are hoping to see under AVB,, so the upgrade in defence and a good keeper will allow our dream to become a reality, and a striker will come in, i am sure of that, once the modders thing is finally sorted out...

spurster

I'd have been happy with the likes of Krul, Vorm, Al-Habsi or Butland, but Lloris is obviously a class act, no worse than any of these guys. I'm only put off by the money but if we can afford it then why not. He's 25, which is a massive bonus and he's pushed Mandanda out of the French team, who I would also take at Spurs. However, I admit, I've not seen him play a lot.

SamParadise

What about Kasper Schmichael. If we cant get Butland becaus they want silln what about KS? I've seen him play and he looks like he has lots of ptential, just a thought as an alternative to Butland

Whitehart Lad

Also, if we sign him this summer, we'll have Brad, Carlo, Gomes and Lloris. Who do we offload? I'd be happy to see Brad go personally, despite all he offers, as he is, in the end of the day, so old. Carlo's no spring chicken but he has 3 years on Brad. What are our young keepers like? Same names have been around for a while, but I know nothing of them.

SamParadise

I'm not exactly upset by us signing a guy of his pedigree. He is regarded as one of the best in the world so lets give him a chance. Snubbing Arsenal for us is always a good start to any Spurs players career, so well done for that chap lol. Krul or Vorm would have been great choices but both have said they want to stay where they are so I doubt they were even options for us. Butland's still being linked so we're probably looking at a goalkeeping shake up.

Spurs Allday

thing is (if what you read is true) Lloris wants in and his team are willing to let him go...Krul and Vorm havent asked to go nor have their teams shown any desire to sell..also its all very well offering this and that player in a deal but as Ossie has said already unless they are indeed wanted by Newcastle and Swansea then very unlikely to happen....also the players we offer may not want to go to them either...also suddenly we dont want him but i saw many desired line-ups recently by us lot with his name at the top cant understand whats changed.. you dont become Frances number 1 and captain if your *****e

norwichspur

Let Gomes go, he is still of some market value, probably to the Americas somewhere, Carlo to a lower league team on the cheap or loan, Keep Brad and LLoris as starters and bring up one of the youth keepers to gain experience §

spurster

yes 13.5M is big money... but, this guy is one of the best in the world, he is a full international keeper (i also think he's the french captain?) and has CL experience and a lot of big game experience. at 25 years old he could be our keeper for the next 10 years. he is certainly better than what we have at the moment.

rahn DMC

An interesting thing that was pointed out was the type of characters we're signing, Vertonghen - Ajax captain, Lloris - French captain, Moutinho - ex Lisbon captain. We're bringing in younger players but they are still leaders on the pitch so we won't be losing the qualities that the old guard had brought to the team.

Spurs Allday

@Shedboy2 - I honestly do not see how you can champion the signing of Butland for 8 mil, when you also state that 13.5 mil for Lloris would be a gamble. Butland cannot even make the Birmingham first team, why would you assume he is good enough for us?

Sure, I can see that the lad has potential, however Lloris has actually realized his potential, plays for and captains his national team, has plenty of experience of both CL and international football, which we all recognize as the highest possible level.

Whilst I agree that in an ideal world, we would sign a GK with PL experience, I do not believe that it should rule us out of the running for Lloris. We would find it very expensive to get Krul from Newcastle, and Vorm only has one season in English football under his belt, though admittedly he did play very well for Swansea.

In the grand scheme of things, 13.5 mil for a world-class keeper is not very expensive, when compared to the 32 mil transfer record for a GK, or the 18.5 mil spent by Utd on De Gea last season. Especially when considering that Lloris would be good for at least 10 seasons, assuming he does work out. I do not see anymore risk in buying Lloris than I do in buying Vorm or Krul, or any other GK.

There are no guarantees that whoever we sign, PL experience or not, will work out. Bentley was setting the PL on fire when we signed him, though that has yet to work out for us, and likely it never will.

molesy

Well said molesy

what_sux

spurspanther- yes GK should be on our list but £14m nearly a club transfer record! We'll have to agree to dis-agree on Gomes...I would have like to see us try with him. If Ade gets injured what's the plan? we'll need at least 1 forward who can play the same system as him and then of course we need a plan b...?

spurster- I'm happy with vert so far but he's the only one I think will improve us defensively...I hope Lloris proves me wrong! As for a striker we really shouldn't be waiting on Luka for that....we made 27m profit on player sales last year and have added Corluka and Niko fees to the pot meaning we should have 36m to spend without the moeny from any other player sales OR taking into account the 13m per year we would normally invest so we could have 62m to spend on players unless the money has been syphoned off for the stadium...

shedboy2

BTW Carlo is not good enough to sit on our bench sorry but the bloke is useless...

shedboy2

@Shedboy2 - I am not trying to pick a fight with you honest.... however, I believe that the GK is probably the most important part of this project now that we have Jan Vedrtonghen already on board, and Ade by all accounts tied up.

It was clear to see that Freidel is not the keeper he was a few years back, and whilst I wouldnt be against keeping him, I do believe he needs to be replaced sooner rather than later. Also, if we are to sign a GK, be it Lloris, Viviano or Handanovic (I belive he has already signed for Inter) or any of the other GK's we have been linked to recently, then we need to do it sooner rather than later, in order to give him as much time as possible in his new surroundings, with his new team-mates.

Gomes is done, he will never make it at Spurs now, if for no other reason than the huge clangers he has already made for us. For his own sake, and ours, we need to move him on, somewhere maybe less high profile, to allow him a chance of salvaging his reputation. If I am not mistaken, he is also now out of contract with us, though we have a 1 year option with him, like with most of the contracts Levy signs off on.

molesy

Good post molesy, altho I do think £13.5m for a GK is expensive, but worth it if Butland is worth £8

Ossie

Personally I'd go for keepers I've seen perform in the premiership rather than gamble this kind of money on Lloris (look at De Gea). Vorm for me if we are excluding Krul from the running (would Newcastle sell Krul for much more than Lloris figures with Ashley in charge?) with Friedel and Cuddicini back-up and off load Gomes. This is one area I would not take a risk on, albeit Spurs showing great purpose in looking to spend this kind of money for GK position

sandrotheman

molesy- I refer you to my earlier reply re: the gamble you're not taking into account the bigger picture. BTW how much would you suggest Gomes is worth? He was once regarded as one of the best keepers in the world!! and should be good for another 8 years by your reckoning...
if (and I hope not) Lloris makes a few mistakes and losses his confidence we will not have a keeper...

shedboy2

Carlo is not useless at all. Dont think he has let us down when called upon. Regarding Lloris molesy has said it all. A strike force of Ade Damiao/Remy or another and Defoe should be enough.

spurspanther

Lloris is one of the most consist GK in Europe over the last four seasons not a one season wonder like Krull or Vorm. Class act all the way and at 25 could be our number one for th enext ten years! finally some proper plannig for this club. And the qouted figure of 13-15 million this comes from Levy I assume? and not just red-tops spectulating on what teams maybe spending? Fantastic signing. For everyone looking for Buttland how many very young keepers have we signed in the last 5-6 years that have made the grade?

Slurms McKenzie

guys you can't just compare Butland and Lloris as they stand now....you have to consider how they affect the team AND squad now and in the future whether they are a success or a flop....

shedboy2

He'll already know Kaboul so will have some decent understanding there. His slight frame won't be a problem when you have a pair of rocks like Kaboul and Vertonghen in there with him, all-in-all i'm happy and the price isn't that high for such a specialist position.

As I've said before both Krul and Vorm have said they don't want to move so they probably weren't even options for us.

Spurs Allday

I think we shuld stk with BF for anothr season, yes I would be happy with Llois lie some have said you dont get to be Frances No1 if your pants. I think BF still hs another season left in him, the looks after himself and never put a foot wrong last seson. I would maybe also like to see him as GK Coach to the younger lads his experience is priceless and the younger lads would benefit. loris woudbe a great addition and any GK from outside the Prem is going to be a risk but these guys are the best at what they do and I dont think AVB would consider himif he didnt think he could handle life in the Prem

Whitehart Lad

spurspanther- we wouldn't have lost 5-1 to Chelsea with gomes in goal! he is in my opinion uselss! too small, too slow, not commanding poor distribution...he looks like a man who hasn't played football for years...oh, that's what he is!

shedboy2

one other point I would like to make is that, whilst we should be looking at signing another striker, a GK, someone to cover (or even replace) Lennon and Bale and a replacement for Modric if he leaves, he should not have any specific order for these deals to be concluded.

If a good deal presents itself for any of these positions needed, we should look to push on with the deal. What good would it be for us to spend all of our time focusing solely on a ST when we then miss out on our number 1 targets for the other positions we need to fill.

Trust in the fact that Levy and AVB will already have identified preferred and backup targets for each position they wish to fill, and will get any and all deals possible, over the line as soon as possible.

ILIT IAVBIT COYS

molesy

Well, I hope this signals the end for manky Yanky at the lane never should of been here in the first place thanks to that twitchy bloke with no name, Gomes was ruined by Twitchy and his confidence destroyed ... Loach would be a good back up keeper !

E17YID

what's the difference on wage demands between Butland and lloris?

shedboy2

Sorry, that post was for Ossie.

Spuds-U-Like

And what makes YOU think they wouldn't then ? Swansea in particuar would be very interested if there was little cost to them & Ashley also like to keep his hands in his pockets too, so as I said, its a win/win for both Clubs. The only downside I can see is the possible lack of attraction for our players either club or to South Wales & the North East.

Spuds-U-Like

Basing that on one game shedboy? dont think we lost 5-1 because of him.

spurspanther

looks like were set to beat Arsenal to highly rated England U19 defender Jamaal Lascelles from Nottingham Forrest ;0) #morepullingpowerthancherylcole

Whitehart Lad

It seems this transfer is not a unanimous feel good appointment...still it seems like it may happen so good luck to him (and us) if it does....shame we didn't get Stekelenburg a few years back...

shedboy2

Think the wage demands would be Butland £2000 a week and LLoris £40000 a week. Prob got something to do with being one of them is a 20 year old with no games under his belt and the other a international captian with over 5 years of first team football and European football plus being voted the best GK of his league for the past 3 seasons

spurspanther

My guess would be fairly massive, but what has Butland achieved? Realistically he is a signing that would be loaned straight back out for at least two more seasons. Our need is now and Lloris fits the bill and still offers long term GK solution. Both isn't an option either as all yo will do is stiffle the younger guy who is acting as back up. Keep Gomes for this role and allow him to build back up some confidence.

Slurms McKenzie

spurspanther- no not one game...that was just for an example....even when he's played and we haven't conceded he still doesn't look good to me....it seems if you stand in the middle of your goal and don't try and effect a game, dive when a ball is kicked and punt the ball up to your strikers most people think your a good goalie....shame because he was once a good goalie...used agility to make up for his lack of presence but it's gone....

shedboy2

shedboy2 whilst I like Stekelenburg you have to admit he looked just as dodgy in the euros, don't think he had a single good game

Spurs Allday

Lloris is a top keeper and is still only young, he will get even better as he matures. All good teams build their foundations from the back and you need a good goalkeeper to do it. AVB is building a squad to play how he wants and challenge for top 4 and the league. This won't all happen in one transfer window. new DF in place to play with Kaboul, potentially the best partnership in the league imo. Solid, hungry goalkeeper to follow and we have confidence at the back end of the pitch. This will allow the forward players to commit themselves a bit more with the likes of Sandro, Hudd and Parker adding some required steel to the middle of the park. I'd be happy with the next 2 reported signings but we have to have a plan for Modric leaving, Oscar and or Moutinho (not that i've seen either of them play but there are enough good reports about them on the net). Maybe with the 4 good signings and still add Oscar Or Moutinho this will take some of the pressure off of Luka and he'll hang around knowing that he wont have to play every game and suffer burn out like last season where his form dipped. Relying on one player is never a good game plan so AVB has to have multiple options in every position and ensure that he rotates the squad accordingly.

callistic

spurs - As I posted that I thought the same thing...;)

shedboy2

Not my first choice, but a decent enough keeper. I can’t really say ive seem all that much of him but from what the Sports Journo’s say he a good bet. Id rather go for Rui Patricio but ive know idea about how much he’d cost, if hes for sale etc so we may have already crossed him off the list. We only need 3 more signings as well as making Ade permanent. GK, CM (assuming Modric is going) a no9 and maybe an attacking playmaker / winger. So if we believe what we read it could be Lloris, Moutinho, (Ganso / Oscar / Remy), Damaio / Leandowski. Id be well chuffed with any of those combo’s!!!

hudderspur

Like Isaid we have to trust AVB nd Levy. AVB will know the types of plaers he wants ad so far I have been happy with everything that seems to be going on at THFC. Were doing thigs early in time for pre season so I think we should all be feeling more positive

Whitehart Lad

@Shedboy2 - I would disagree with you, in the fact that Gomes has never been touted as a world beater. At best, he was 3rd choice for Brazil, and now not even that.

I remember seeing him play against us, for PSV in the Europa league when they knocked us out, and I thought he was a liability. I remember him coming out of his box, to literally pole-axe his own team-mate, who then went off injured.

The problem with Gomes is that he does have mistakes in him, and unfortunately they are not particularly rare. For every good save he makes, he messes up something routine. If the fans do not have faith in him, and I do not, imagine being the defender in front of him?

I hear a lot of people taking about refereeing blunders, as the cause of a few of his high profile errors.... well let me ask you, was it the referees fault that he let the ball slip through his legs against Chelsea? Had he have collected that like he should have, and as should be expected of him, then the referee wouldnt have had a call to make incorrectly.

The big difference with us bringing in Lloris, is that he will be AVB's choice, and after spending 13.5 mil on him, will have no choice but to back him, whether or not he hits the ground running.

It may have been a lot different for Gomes had Ramos not been fired, as he obviously had a lot more faith in him than we do, or for that matter Harry did.

molesy

(Ganso / Oscar / Remy), Damaio / Leandowski. Id be well chuffed with any of those combo’s! - I second that huddspur!

shedboy2

Ok so thats 4 ha.

hudderspur

Another twitter feed from various sources. We are to bid for Afellay as Barca have put him up for sale. Arsenal and Spurs both preparing bids

Whitehart Lad

molesy- we'll have to agree to dis-agree on gomes...he was touted as a world beater and potential Brasil keeper to rival cesar....of course he's not now that's what happens when you get dropped..I agree he does have mistkes in him but mainly because he goes and effects a game...but you're right if he comes in we will have no choice but to support him....no matter how well he does....and not much choice if he's out...

shedboy2

This takes trust for a supporter to support. He did not impress during the Euros, but so many people speak so highly of him... ? Of course, something wasn't right with the entire France team during the Euros, so perhaps that's not the basis to judge the lad. As for the me, the jury's still out on this one.

Total knobhead

I think this would be a great signing imo. Captaining Les Bleus, a solid leader, from what I've read he's an exciting player. Ok he didn't have a great Euros but who did except the Spanish? RVP was nowhere to be seen, neither was Rooney. Lloris is a little expensive, and we could use that money towards a striker, but Friedel is pretty much past it, Gomes is the most inconsistent tool out there, Cudicini always gave his heart for us but was never overwhelming... We need a keeper who has presence, leadership and longevity, and despite what some think on this thread, Lloris has all three

acespur

Pay the money and get him. He is a world class keeper who has the potential to be our keeper for at least the next 10 years. A back five of Lloris, Walker, Kabs, Vert, BAE is up there with the best in the league! Brad, while solid does not have the ability to win us points single handedly whereas a Lloris in the side could gain us upward of 5 points per season alone. Keep up the good work AVB / DL

1984Spurs

This is all becoming very interesting, all of us have seen links with players in the past, One question has been on my mind for ages, has Levy had AVB in mind for some time and asked him to start looking at players, with a view to taking over at the lane, at a time when Arry was still in charge. Having already secured Siggy a player that AVB said he wanted, Jan Vertonghen, all his negotiations started even when Arry was still at the club, please tell me did Arry go and watch him? i can't remember, so much has happened, very quickly. Now we are linked with a very good goalkeeper in Hugo Lloris who would be a very good buy for us, aged 25, who since 2005 has made a total of 257 club appearances for Nice and Lyon. As a French International Keeper since 2008 has made a total of 37 appearances with 18 clean sheets, he must be doing something right.

spu 4 life

I'm probably repeating what others have said but he i don't think he does organize his defense that well...... and does flap at corners. Yes he is young but 13-15 mil?? We have a new CB pairing in our back 4 (whats new) with a new player to the PL as well.....so i could see problems from the start. I don't think the Gooners would go for him either.....he would be number 2 for them and their number 1 is younger. Their highest transfer is about 16mil so why would they spend all that on a keeper?? I think its all Agent and media talk to try and pimp him out. 13-15mil?? You're having a bubble. If we got him it would need to be for a lot less and still would need a year to settle etc...I like the calls for Vorm...or even Krul if he was cheap but not sure that we would be able to get them or if Spurs are actually interested in them. Its a shame we cant pinch Anders Lindegaard from united.....i like him hes pretty solid. COYS.

SpursOne2

At the end of the day, AVB clearly does not see any of our current 3 keepers as long term options. And can anyone blame him? Besides, 2 of them are older than him, which rightly or wrongly I don't think sits well with him. Personally, I'd prefer an athletic 6'8 monster in goal, but seeing that most of them are playing in the NBA it's not going to happen. Arguably, the most important position on the pitch and therefore this transfer needs to be absolutely spot on. Full international, CL experience, young than the 'head coach'...lol Big money yes, but an area that needs addressing sooner rather than later. Let the revolution begin!!! 'In for a penny, in for a pound?'

thenuge

very good listening www.talksport.co.uk/radio/extra-time/120710/lipton-tottenhams-transfer-targets-176254 Martin Lipton on how things are going at Spurs etc def worth a listen

Whitehart Lad

BBC are reporting Oscar has chosen The Chavs over Spurs. his agent says he will get "more exposure" with the Chavs. Is looking to England as his stepping stone to a bigger european team?/ If thats tha case I dont want that kind of player at my club. The Chavs are welcome to him

mattspurs

Cudicini is a great keeper - he's just too small.

micyid

One thing is underrated is that the signal of intention we send to others if we sign Lloris. Levy sends that we are challenging for the top, helps us attracts international class players, and can help us a bit to keep our top players. Other clubs will know we are serious this season, and cannot afford to underestimate us. And we signal that we are not a selling club, but we are prepared to sell if we received a mega offer, and we can use it to make our team stronger through the funds.

what_sux

In honesty I think most keepers would look shaky with Mexes in front of them

Spurs Allday

Ha HA this is a Pi$$ take, Oscar is opting to move to Chavski as they will give him more exposure (what from the bench) and will allow him to use them as a stepping stone to a bigger European cub!!!!!! (thask but no thanks) #mercenary

Whitehart Lad

Maybe a little something lost in translation. I thought they were chasing Gonzo?

Slurms McKenzie

I still maintain that for the money we are prepared to bid for Lloris, a completely untried GK in the premier league, therefore whether you like it or not a risk, or even for less money, we would certainly be able to bully Swansea City to sell us Vorm, a GK with proven PL ability. The thing that Vorm should realise is that bearing in mind their away record last season, that their mentor, and the creator of their system and philosophy has gone, and they are no longer a shock unknown quantity to the other PL teams. For these reasons I would think that they are candidates for "second season syndrome" and may well be in the relegation zone this season.

Frank

hi guys.first ever post, theres not much better out there then lloris.saw him playing against ireland twice in the playoffs and if it wasnt for him (never mind that whole handball *****) ireland would of got through handy. real exciting prospect for the lane

never blowingbubbles

So Vorm is a one hit wonder with Swansea but should be our No.1 keeper Frank?

Slurms McKenzie

my bad £8m

Ossie

Welcome to the funny farm never blowingbubbles!

Slurms McKenzie

One point on Lloris he speaks french... as does Kabul, Vert. (if not, then belgian is close enough to french) and BAE..so should be good communication in defence..

Block D Spurs

Perhaps the BBC are trying to kick start us into action, over Oscar, like all are very own rumours, when he signs, if he signs for squinty eyes, then we know the deal is done.

spu 4 life

#thfc AVB's doing a press conference tomorrow afternoon at the new training ground in Enfield. Good idea, underlining image of a new era. Can anyone confirm this ???

redhotspur1234

Block D Spurs - what's french for ''Get phucking shot of it''

spu 4 life

Welcome never blowingbubbles

what_sux

Best attribute about Lloris which would suit AVB is his ability to do well in a one on one situation. If we go by Chesea way & maintain a high line, there will be a time, when offside trap doesnt work and opposition player could go one n one with Keeper. This is one signle thing that Lloris does so well - his decision making when to come out or stay back makes him one of the best. He is still dodgy in crosses, but having said that I cant remember any serious errors made by him. At 25, a French International goal keeper for past few years, I say get him. GKhave to be seen over atleast couple of seasons - while Vorm & Krul are good choice, but what guarentees their consistecy ? But if we are spending 13m, I would rather spend it on Fernando Muslera, Uruguay goal keeper than Lloris. He has already kept well in some high profile games, wasting his talents in Turkey league.

sydqcb5

Howard Webb doing one of our games, Corner, Hugo says No corner to Howard, Howard please come and sit down, have a class of red wine, you like a croissant, now Howard that was no corner, what a bloody nice chap, Howard says, goal kick.

spu 4 life

Off topic - Heard from twitter that AVB's doing a press conference tomorrow afternoon at the new training ground in Enfield.

what_sux

Spu I believe it is: "Je suis un fromage manger singe de reddition"

Slurms McKenzie

We have not bought any new players now for 48 hours and I am getting impatient. lol ;-)

Welcome!!! never blowbubbles :-)

Madaboutspurs

beat you too it What-sux Haha LOL

redhotspur1234

"belgian is close enough to french." The French language, that is. Depending on the region, Belgians speak either Flemish or French, no? Are you suggesting that French is close enough to French or that Flemish is? Flemish is close not to French but to Dutch. I don't know, but my goes is that Vert speaks both.

Total knobhead

French, flemish, dutch what does it matter sure they're all German after all.

Slurms McKenzie

Should have read my guess is that he speaks both. Anyway "belgian" is not close to french. There's no such language. Your pick, French or Flemish. it's been the bane of Belgium to be split linguistically, somewhat like Ottowa and Quebec.

Total knobhead

redhotspur1234 - You got that real lucky mate haha :-)

what_sux

TK thats like saying new Zealand isn't part of Australia just because it's an island ;-)

Slurms McKenzie

Slurms Mckenzie, who says he is a one hit wonder. Indeed if he is, as we stand that is one more hit than Lloris, who unproven, and could turn out to be another Fabien Barthez, not very good, but entertaining.

Frank

Home and Away Jerseys???

what_sux

From what I've read, as well as operating a high-line, AVB also goes for Zonal marking. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe 'Arry got the boys marking man-to-man. This means that with such a radical change, we need a GK who really understands Zonal and can communicate with his defence. Sounds like Lloris may be ideal and perhaps AVB can rehab Gomes too as backup. All in all, I can't wait for pre-season to get under way. Exciting Times. COYS

ParkLane67

Time for someone to replace Friedel. He looks as stiff as an old man out there, is a nightmare when the GK is needed to take command and come out for a cross, etc., and one thing is for sure: He's not going to improve. I think Gomes could become good again, but with his history at WHL, it's probably best for him to move to a fresh environment. Lloris? I don't know as I've watched not so many matches in the French league. Have to assume DL and Levy have a solid basis for making the purchase if they do.

Total knobhead

Thats a bit harsh there TK, Friedel doesn't look as stiff as an old man - he is an old man!

Slurms McKenzie

No Modric in the shirt photo's?? Speaks a thousand words!!!

woodyn17

P.S The pictures are found on twitter, the guy standing beside is NOT me!!

what_sux

Well whatever the back 5 combinations are for us the bottom line is that AVB has to get some height into our back 5 starting with the Goal Keepers... We need height at the back and a big GK is a must. We also need to do something about our set pieces .......were too short as a team only Ade has any height .....look at the average height of Mods Defoe Lennon Parker even Bale and Sandro aint exactly giraffe's! We need a back two that can boss the box at both ends....I dont know enough about Lloris to call it but he has to take crosses out of the air.... last season the bigger teams killed us on set pieces and crosses in, Gomes would rather punch than catch and Cuddicini is too small as is Friedel. Who ever the GK is we need someone who is solid in the air, can shout at BAE when he switches off and add some strength in the air to help the two centre backs....and for this season AVB get someone to defend the back post at corners instead of Modric!

OyVeh Maria

Wow those look awesome what_sux!

Mix26

Slurms, it's Tasmania that isn't part of Australia because it's an island. New Zealand is part of East Timor, no? Don't they both speak Portuguese? Or is it Flemish? Anyway, they're both in the Indian Ocean after all.

Total knobhead

Oh man I hope we dont adopt zonal marking at corners, leaves to many holes, man marking for me is always the best.

Ossie

As an old man, Friedal is stiff in all the wrong places and not where it counts, I'm afraid. Do we want a Viagra GK?

Total knobhead

Off topic - Heard that Terms and Fee alledged for Reading to sign Defoe and Pienaar is absent for today training.

what_sux

Oyveh so what you're saying is we need a GK with a megaphone - cause thats what it will take to get BAE to wake up when he switchs off.

Slurms McKenzie

Don't know about the viagra but he is pretty wooden!!!!

Slurms McKenzie

Bale is 6ft 2 and sandro 6 ft. so not too small for getting up to dead ball kicks.. Gomes 6ft 4.

Block D Spurs

we need to bring someone in who can be number 1 from day one. lloris sounds good, will be able to communicate with the french speaking defenders and unlike brad will be much more suited to defending a high line - he will sometimes have to run like hell :) AVB building from the back, I like it. Hopefully we will get the deal done for moutinho next, I think it is so so important that AVB brings in a player who is 100% behind him and can act as his lieutenant in the dressing room. According to the mirror we pulled out of the oscar move in order to focus on mountinho. What we need to avoid is any trace of player revolution a la chelsea. Thats the only reason i would be happy to see VDV leave, although I love the guy. .

Guernman

Now that's harsh, Slurms. But we could put headphones in his hair.

Total knobhead

Kits look a lot better here than they did when some scrawny kid was wearing them in some link earlier in the summer! btw why is the bloke in the pic holding Dawsons hand and has his eyes closed!

JattYid

Some decent points, Guernman.

Total knobhead

He's just praying he doesn't get injured

Slurms McKenzie

Its VDV's hand actually....you cant see Dawsons ouch

SpursOne2

That's not Dawson't hand he's holding, and Dawson is blocking his move. lol.

Total knobhead

Tk.. french & flemish (belgian) are similar.. like spanish & Portuguese ... I just know you will respond in portuguese... LOL :-)

Block D Spurs

Jatt.. errr the players are photos on cardboard..

Block D Spurs

lol oh yea! either way the bloke in pict definately cut some holes in that cardboard cut out after darty boi!

JattYid

Hehe TK

Slurms McKenzie

Vertonghen speaks Flemish, he doesn't speak French. He mentioned it in an interview when he was asked about the possibility of playing alongside Hazard at Spurs, he said they're not close friends as they both speak different languages.

Spurs Allday

Got to sign off now...

Block D Spurs

http://www.talksport.co.uk/radio/extra-time/120710/lipton-tottenhams-transfer-targets-176254 Well worth a listen !!! :)

redhotspur1234

Flemish às vezes é chamado-se de holandês da Bélgica. Não é como francês. Flemish sometimes is called the Dutch of Belgium. It's not like French. Flemish actually is Flamengo in Portuguese, the name of the (second) most popular club in Brasil. But the most popular club is Corinthians, recent Libertadores winners, and named after a club in London from a century ago. The London club, Corinthians, was the best in the world at one time. The uniforms of Real Madrid are based on the original Corinthians of London uniform. Didn't want to let you down Block D. Em Levy eu confio agora.

Total knobhead

Knobhead they also speak something called Walloon. As spoken fluently by some of the contributers to this site....?

ChristySpur

The problem with Gomes is he is just like BAE ,you just dont know whats going to turn up on the day...I've watched Gomes in loads of games and when he is under pressure he punches...he also get his wires crossed too many times (Manure? Nani?) and how nervous does that make the crowd and our two CB's.?..Gomes should be retained but not as first choice i just hope Lloris has some savvy ....

OyVeh Maria

Good piece of information, Allday. So, he won't be communicating with Lloris or Kaboul of BAE in French, then. And he must have found it easy to live in Holland.

Total knobhead

That's right SA - Anyway we don't need them to speak french, flemish or wolloon......they need to speak ENGLISH

SpursOne2

Michel Vorm gets my vote

krafty007

Walloons is a variant dialect of French, ChristySpur. The preferred language on this site is Pig Latin mixed with estuary English.

Total knobhead

Both educational and informative thats why Vital Spurs is the best.

Slurms McKenzie

Just read on Twitter from Steve Bateman (former Sky Sports journalist). That Spurs are confident of signing Lloris for around £16m by the end of the week

Nugget

Isn't Google Translate good?

ChristySpur

The additional money for Lloris will be deducted from the pay of the tea lady.

Total knobhead

This just in. Harry has volunteered to do the tea lady's job for free, so long as he's assured of interviews in the parking lot afterwards through his car's window.

Total knobhead

NEW KIT!!!!
http://www.tottenblog.com/2012/07/new-kit-promo-material-leaked-home-away.html

MrPaddytheyid

Like the kit pictures. Away kit looks simple yet powerful. Not flashy or crappy like the bin dippers have.

sydqcb5

Nugget - 16mil is way too much. Levy is shrewd and wont pay that I'm sure.....

SpursOne2

Don't quit your day job TK......

SpursOne2

Olá Mr Paddy, the pictures already are up on this thread. lol. What the 411 with your sister in Olinda? Did you Skype her since our last contact?

Total knobhead

Kits look mint. Right now i am loving the away kit but reckon that home one will become an all time fan favourite by xmas

micyid

Good advise, Spurs1Two. If I had too much time on my hands, I'd be writing silly comments on VS.

Total knobhead

I hope you're right SpursOne. Seems way over the top to me

Nugget

I bet the guy in the picture lost his job.

sydqcb5

16mil' for a goalkeeper ! your having a laugh !! Love the new kits .......hope someone put the fire out !...lol

82spursdebut

I was in Olinda on Sunday, Mr Paddy

Total knobhead

TK - There's always time for football Spurs mate.

SpursOne2

@BAE - Second day of work...i train alone and try to make myself ready asap! BUT im DEAD ALREADY. Last nite was in bed about 10pm as a old MAN LOL

sydqcb5

spurs1two, I wrote too much about football the other day--mostly about formations and how they should be flexible and how one hides what one is doing tactically from the opposition, but a couple of people told me to stop. My writing was inspired by a thread about the use of a 4-6-0 by Spain and how boring it was, and I was arguing that a 4-6-0 could be an attacking formation and exciting. But after some folk here told me they were not thrilled by my thoughts and Spurs would never do the things i suggested, I decided to go for silly for a couple of days instead. after all, I am The Total Knobhead, so I have to act it on occasion.

Total knobhead

But a couple of people responded that they thought I was making some sense. Perhaps I'll go back to those football ideas later on. But a bit of silliness on the way can be good. As big C wrote once or twice, football should be fun and entertaining.

Total knobhead

By the way, what do you guys think of ALL WHITE home kit. White shirt Blue shorts - does nobody mind ?

sydqcb5

TK - I don't think you're a knobhead matey

SpursOne2

TK - People probably aren't sold on the 4-6-0 passing style of the Spanish...thinking it boring. It doesn't have to be, i like the idea if implied the spurs way. Teams play in their own half against us all the time.....literally 11 men. When it comes to times like that it would be nice to pass like the Spanish and just work it in the goal.

SpursOne2

LOL the russians want harry... clearly pav put in a good word ;) poor super pav, just when he thought he was free

Guernman

460 is just symantics....players are players just because someone says you're a striker or you're an attacking mid doesn't make it so....what makes it boring is when there is no penatration and no cut and thrust, when the paly is slowed down...I also love the way Spain and Barca cluster around the ball exactly the way you are taught not to as a kid...classic!

shedboy2

Got in there with the kit pics a bit late then I take it! haha
Wow how was it Total, I did speak to her but she is very busy to travel down the coast to you at the moment, but REALLY appreciated the offer!!!
I'm not sure what kit to buy? Quite like the away one!

MrPaddytheyid

I have a question; I know Lloris is at a decent keeper, possibly a great one, but I'm interested to know what his footballing and distribution are like. I'm just under the impression that those attributes will be almost as important to AVB's system as a GK first duty. Any one have some idea about this?

ardone

LlORIS to SPURS ? PHUCK THAT WOULD EPIC .

A young & exciting team seems to be in the developing at Spurs ,well impressed .
Hated our previous transfer policy but loving this one .

big cockeral

Still think Gomez is a good keeper, surely his weaknesses can be coached out. What you can't coach is natural shot stopping ability which he has in abundance. The problem with being a keeper is that you can make 5 brilliant saves in a game but you will only be remembered for the occasional gaffe. A striker can miss 5 easy chances and will only be remembered for the brilliant goal.

ItalianYiddo

I saw Arsenil are after Jovetic. He could be the only reasonable replacement for Modric. Hope AVB notices and goes after him. We are more attractive and many players have been choosing ur over Arsenil. CMON AVB PLEASE GO GET Jovetic!!!! He is the best replacement and half the money!

kosovo_spurs

Hola senor TK.. in the other article.. I was at the chigwell training ground yesterday lunchtime... no TV cameras or reporters lurking around the entrance.. No Harry to speak to them, no spurs wind ups... Happy days... Adios senor. LOL.....

Block D Spurs

Agree Kosovo, Jovetic is class

ItalianYiddo

I can't honestly understand what i am reading, some of us don't want Lloris.............ARE YOU ACTUALLY SERIOUS??????????????? Lloris is a top class keeper, bundles of reflex, quick as a cat and yes he has good hands, he is not flappy at all. We are lucky he is even talking to us. Far better keeper than Brad and Gomes, we talk of him maybe being in trouble with English game.....CRAP! Our current No1 never comes for a cross he is glued to his line and cost us points (lots of points) last season.

ledgespur

Please excuse the swearing, but I just heard that Quincey is a serious contender for the Russia job. He'll fit right in with all those oligarchs!

Spuds-U-Like

lloris looks the nuts .

big cockeral

Lloris, Moutinho, Ade and Seydou Doumbia........job done.

ledgespur

ALL WHITE, ALL WHITE, ALL WHITE, have it, love the idea..for the home kit, good news if true, i know you lot to well, phucking wind up merchants............What's all this bo//ox about Hugo's there Lloris, his a top keeper and only 25, with gomes as goalkeeping coach working with him.

spu 4 life

Tottenham have tabled a bid for highly-rated Nottingham Forest defender Jamaal Lascelles.

The 18-year-old is entering the final year of his contract at the club and Forest could find it hard to reject a big-money offer for the classy centre-back.

big cockeral

What's this about a russian job for churchill, hope the club play in siberia, that will stop him twitching, bloody long drive from Sandbanks, if he takes Kevin Bond they will need to split fuel costs

spu 4 life

For anyone that cares. AVB's first press conference from the new training ground is being shown live on sky 1.30pm (ish) tomorrow

Nugget

Laschelles, Fryers, Adebayor, Lloris and even Moutinho, all could well be on their way. Looks like another hectic week for us :-)

Spurs Allday

Is the press conference just AVB or will he be flanked by Vertonghen and Sigurdsson?

Spurs Allday

Will it be done out of his car window ?

big cockeral

If we do finalize all of those deals then I think it leaves us probably looking at a striker who can play wide like Sturridge or Remy. We could go for Damiao and a winger but my guess is will try to look for someone who ticks both boxes. Love us to get one of those guys and Damiao and perhaps sell Defoe but maybe that's being greedy.

Spurs Allday

Spuds.. he will also be Pav's manager again if he does... so Pav will be back to just running around a bit...... can't see roman being too happy... lol

Block D Spurs

No way will Harry take the Russia job... Sandra would not let him go to Liverpool, then Mid East.. so Russia? no chance...

Block D Spurs

Brad was an improvement from Gomes as gave the defenders confidence and never let one in through his legs. As others have observed he is a bit old and there was a couple of goals he just didn't move - seem to remember a lot of people complaining he didn't play in the semi though.

Lloris, French no 1, French captain, champ leg experience, goal keeper of the year what more could you want.

someone mentioned zonal marking on here earlier, that is going to take time at best and you can bet your house MOTD will be all over it when we let the first couple of corners in, they'll probably wheel 'arry out to give an analysis.

T.H.F.Chris

NO Daniel Sturridge please .

big cockeral

There's a 5mil difference between what they want for Lloris and what we want to pay.....

SpursOne2

Wonder what ****ish names AVB will end up with??

SpursOne2

shedboy2...you appear to contradict yourself on a regular basis. You say we gave up on Gomes too soon but then say what if Lloris makes a few mistakes, what is plan b? Plan b would be stick with the international class goalkeeper that you paid £15m for. I would love Lloris at Spurs. He is not only a class act but he signals our intentions.

bish-10

Italianyiddo...Gomes will never have errors coached out of him. He is a good goalie but for some reason he makes mistakes on the big stage. I bet he never does that in training.

bish-10

Agree Big C no Sturridge.

Lloris seems to be costly but I will give AVB the benefit of doubt if he feels he is the right man for the job.

GK are becoming costly now days because there are not many good ones around especially English ones although there is potential coming through.

Lets hope he adapts to the PL if he comes.

thfan

New article needed badly , i reckon.................................... Hey what sux, you holdin VDV's hand or groping MD ??

spurster

bish- where's the contradiction? I'm advocating bringing in a keeper to compete with Gomes and one that could take over in the long run giving us two options and costing us less money in transfer fees and salaries....But you do appear to contridict yourself- why is it OK to stick with lloris if he makes mistakes but not Gomes? and why is it Ok not to have a plan B? I think your love of the idea of lloris is clouding your judgement....

shedboy2

PS I don't think being French captain should be a positive....didn't exactly pull them all together did he??....

shedboy2

Gomes makes mistakes, tis true. Gomes makes saves other keepers only dream of. That is also true. It's a balance. The past three season he has made a handful of mistakes that have cost goals even with his adventures off the line. One of the goals still has not crossed the line and the other was a mistake any player could have made given that the ball was not only handled, but held and picked up. Gomes thought it was a dead ball. The official thought otherwise. Friedel, has not stopped a penalty in over three years, is poor coming for corners and set pieces and does not get to anything other than what any keeper should get. Yes, he's stable, but IMO, other than a couple of games, did little to distinguish himself one way or the other. He was also helped by having Kaboul in front of him for most of the season and a fair number of games from King. The year prior, Gomes seemed to have different combos in front of him on a daily basis. When top keepers have musical chairs being played in front of them, they rarely look good. If we got Lloris, I'd be cashing in on Friedel. COYS

peterballb

Now if we want to signal our intentions we need to buy a forward that others want....

shedboy2

I'm amazed at the amount of people who arent literally backflipping at the thought of signing Hugo Lloris. This fella is World Class, in fact i'm personally convinced that he would already be playing for Real Madrid if they didnt already have Casillas.

I have to be honest, I'm not one for signing young keepers which is why I find the notion of signing the likes of Krul or Vorm utterly sickening. There's is no telling how they'll react to playing at a big club. I prefer older heads who have been around the block and have all their crazy moments behind them. That said, the exception I would make would be Lloris. He's like an old man in a youngsters body...he's quiet, reserved and on the pitch he NEVER makes mistakes. Plus any worries of adapting should be put to bed given he's already played nearly 200 times for one of the biggest clubs in France and he's faced ChampionsLeague opposition (including English) 40 times!! The kid is more experieced at the top level than Brad Friedel!!

I would break the bank for Lloris...in my opinion, he's the world's next No.1 Goalkeeper (if he's not there already) and at £15m, considering how much donkeys like Gomes, Gordon and De Gea have cost in the past, is an absolute bargain.

...that said, he would become the 3rd most expensive keeper in History!! :/

KierzoSBC

peterballb- if we get lloris we have to sell Gomes and as for cashing in on Brad...we won't get a fiver and won't be able to get him off the payroll he'll have to stay as number 2...Carlo on the other can go, unless we have rashly agreed to extend his contract?

shedboy2

Lloris, Gomes and one of our young keepers will be more than enough quality between the sticks for us. Lloris is young but confident and a very good keeper. They all make mistakes but he is more solid than most. Gomes needs an arm around him to get his confidence back up but he is a very good keeper it is just that his confidence is fragile. Handled correctly both Lloris and Gomes are brilliant keepers. Don't forget that there was serious talk of Gomes going to Man Utd before his confidence collapsed. Get his head right and his hands will follow.

SpuriousLife

what do Gomes, Daws, Bassong, Bentley, Niko, Thudd, Corluka, defoe all have in common?...they all played a BIG part in getting us the only CL footie we've seen....Not bad for a bunch of 'deadwood', I'm not saying they are all great players but there is a danger in throwing the baby out with the bathwater...

shedboy2

Here here!! to everyone saying this would be brilliant. He's in the top 10 keepers in the world i say. surely that means we are done at the back, perhaps we'll see the movement of defensive players we don't need away from the club now. I've watched for a while now without commenting about this situation just so i can get a gauge on it all. I LIKE IT A LOT (dumb and dumber fans) we need to be shift in getting the remaining players we want..... in other news, i thought i saw michael j fox in the garden center today. hard to tell though cos he had his back to the fuchsias....

yidinchina

KierzoSBC- i hope you're right!!...but we are Spurs...;(

shedboy2

Any craic in china?

TopSpur13

Let's get real here. You don't become French goalkeeper of the year for 3 years running, become the French International Captain, play for your club 171 times in 4 years (including 40 times in Europa/Champions League), make 37 appearances for your country (keeping 18 clean sheets in the process) if you aren't a top quality keeper. I think we'd be lucky to have him. And yes it's a lot of money, but I don't think we'd get Krul any cheaper. No one knew Vorm before last season and he's adapted well. Why not Lloris?

finsburyspur

lloris is good enough for us as long as he adapts....no perfect keepers out there if you take note

rovinella62spurs

Fabian Barthez.

TopSpur13

Carroll or Adebayor ?? Thoughts ?? For me Adebayor by a mile !!!!

redhotspur1234

no doubt lloris is a decent goalie, even when stuck to his goaline for lescotts goal at euros. But i'd rather spurs Not spend over 10mill' for a goalie. Great communication is a must for a goalie....preferably knows how to shout english. Gomes's downfall was his lack of communication, possibly due to his gum shield. Note....de gea may have cost 18mill' but lindegaard cost 3.5 mill'. IMO lindegaard the better keeper but admittedly older. Bargains are out there and still faith can be found in young keepers already on our books.

82spursdebut

why we are not linked with any forwards other than ade?looking at the forwards our rivals have shouldn't we be concerned?

indianyid

15m for one of the best keepers in the world is an absolute steal. At 25 he still has ten years left in him as well. This could be one of the signings of the summer.
With the signing of Vertonghen as well out Gk and back line look absolutely fantasic (best i have ever seen it) with Sandro in front we will be very hard to break down.

Now lets get that Striker in and next season could be incredible.

CGan1

Kierzo, cannot add much to your thoughts on Lloris. He could be a top keeper for the next decade. The next Cech or Buffon. These guys were all well beyond their years in ability and maturity. I also believe that adding Butland and loaning him back would be a great plan for the future. As I had stated earlier, if we get lloris, I'd keep Gomes and Cudicini and see what I could get for Friedel. Any money off of him is profit and I am still a huge fan of Gomes. COYS

peterballb

Shedboy, why do we have to sell Gomes if we get Lloris? He did not make any waves last season and was lights out the year we got CL. Any money we get on Friedel is found. Get Gomes looking good again and he'll be marketable. We need two top keepers if we're serious about four competitions. Cudicini is ok as emergency, but nothing more at this point which is why he is a number 3. Friedel expects to play every day. Gomes has shown he will sit if need be. He'd be my number 2. Add to that the fact that Gomes has more life in him than either Cudicini or Friedel and the decision, IMO, makes itself. COYS

peterballb

HERE WE GO TIDY HUGO LlORIS VIDEO

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-open-talks-with-france-keeper-1138550

big cockeral

Lioris has been consistent for a few years now and he's only 25... Very brave too , will come out like a Schmichael and also dive at an opponents feet no problem. If he has a weakness on english style crosses , he will work on it , I'm confident he will quickly adapt.

ArnieArdiles

Peterbalb, Gomes has made more than a handful of mistakes which have cost goals since he has been at the club. His antics also makes the crowd nervous and I assume the back 4 nervous He is great shot stopper that I can't deny, but a goalkeeper needs to be able to collect crosses, command his box and probably most importantly in England he has to be brave and I have watched Gomes either half heartedly or chicken out of too many 50/50's to want to see him in goal for Spurs again. On another note, the Lyon chairman is apparently the French version of Levy, so this deal has a long way to go before we are likely to see Lloris holdig up his Spurs shirt!!!

Paul - THFC Forever

Gomes' ship has sailed. Maybe somewhere else but not tottenham. And for such a great shot stopper... ronaldo and lampard come to mind :D

TopSpur13

Paul, that's just not true. His mistakes are widely available on YouTube and several were in his first season when adjusting. The CL season he was lights out and the season after was where he made most of his "howlers". That said he makes saves that most other keepers don't and has, at my count (admittedly, hardly official) gone the wrong way on a penalty, twice. He has saved more penalties than most and looked pretty darned good with a pairing of Dawson/Bassong in the CL qualification season in front of him. Neither are our best 2 CB's, so that says something. Keepers like to have the same guys in front of them and a lot of his issues came with the merry-go roand of players in front of him. Put two quality CB's with Sandro in front of them and Gomes will be just fine indeed. Lloris would be even better. As for costing goals, there was a spell last year of 5 or 6 games where I'd have been willing to bet that all of the goals conceded Gomes would have gotten a hand to. Friedel is slow and the press seem to like him so bad goals (and there were three or four last year) get glossed over. Perhaps we can agree that Friedel is not the answer and that the Lloris negotiations will be rather intense. It just seems to me that the current powers that be are moving decisively towards targets rather than seeing what else may or may not be possible. If Lloris is the target, my guess is he'll be here by Monday. Coinciding with the rollout of the UA kits would be perfect, but it will take more time than that, I fear. COYS

peterballb

The guy is the dog's... Signing Lloris would be a bit step in the right direction. Bonjour Monsieur Lloris!

Cape Town Spurs

peterballb- Gomes was unhappy and wanted out which is why he wasn't even on the bench...he won't sit there for another year....Carlo is out of contract and not up to it...we won't get any money for Brad who we signed on a free...who's going to buy a 41 year old keeper on good wages? if we buy Lloris Brad will be number 2...Gomes and Carlo would go...

shedboy2

Why not offer Lyon Gomes as part of the deal?

CGan1

Why would we not get any money for Brad? One year left on his contract and the ability to coach a younger keeper. Any professional player should not accept sitting. Pletikosa did not and should not have. Nor should Gomes, who did not make waves and who did not "deserve" to be third. He didn't cost us CL in 2010/2011 but he certainly was a cog in us getting it in 2009/2010. People's memories are so short. He was fantastic. COYS

peterballb

Didn't Lyon say they wanted the transfer sorted by 15th July if it was to happen? I would imagine it will be all wrapped up (possibly along with Moutinho) before the players fly out to the states.

CGan1

I'd be more than happy with Lloris coming to us, granted he looked a little out of form at times durin the Euros but he would still be head and shoulders our best keeper at the club. I just hope that the Adeybayor deal falls through, it will all end in tears if he joins us and they won't be tears of joy. Once he's got his contract he'll revert to the player witnessed at every other club he's played for, the bloke is lazy and with him leading the line we'll do well to finish top four. That he's the choice of so many on here just shows how far expectation has fallen. Seriously ... breaking our wage structure for Citys 5th best striker, absolute madness if you ask me.

thfc1882whl

peterballb - I think when it comes down to it, if Lloris was suspended i would feel much more confident in Brad coming in and doing a job for 3 games than Gomes who despite his shot stopping is always likely of costing us a game and we can't afford that next season.

CGan1

CGan, yes, Gomes might cost us a game, but then he also might steal a game. IMO, in our relegation form of 10 games, Friedel did not steal us anything and probably cost us with his lack of range and cover of corners, free kicks. He also slows down our attack vis-a-vis Gomes who gets the ball in the feet of our MF'ers in a hurry. Gomes is not the clown people make him out to be. No more than Gio is lazy or Pav is a donkey. There are better players than all three to be sure, but they are nowhere near the sad sacks some would have us believe. COYS

peterballb

thfc1882whl - Adebayor is better than Dzeko. You are making a big assumption that he will suddenly put his feet up when permanently signed. I want him and one other top class striker to provide competition for the striker role. Expectations have fallen? Did you see his goal and assists record last year? It was very very good and he has more than earnt his move to us.
We broke our wage structure for Bale anyway, he is on 100k plus. Who says we still even have a wage cap.

CGan1

Having seen Lloris a lot in Ligue1, he gets bullied far too easily and that is when playing behind a decent Lyon defense. For me Vorn is too small and is barely 6ft. I would spend the £13.5m on SCOTT LOACH of Watford and JACK BUTLAND of Birmingham both of who have been in the England full squad, both 6ft4+ and both built like brick outhouses.

kernowboy71

Ok peterballb- see who comes in for him..we won't sell him because he earns good money with us, money that is guaranteed for anther year...anyone else would only want him around as second choice or to help out coaching and they ain't going to pay the sort of money Arry will have got him...agree re: Gomes though people really do have short/selective memories fans like that have no right to ask for loyalty from players....

shedboy2

we have never had a wage cap....

shedboy2

...it's a structure

shedboy2

KB71, if going domestic, that is the way to go. Loach is also a superlative shot-stopper, but with the Transfer fee in the same region as Lloris, I would be going with Lloris with Butland purchased and loaned back for at least one more year. If I heard we got Loach instead of lloris though, you would not hear me complaining. He's a fabulous keeper. COYS

peterballb

Not sure why people seem to thinking paying 13-15 million for a top goalkeeper is to much. That will only buy you an average midfielder and a poor striker. Goalkeepers probably win more games than most top strikers. Citeh would have won nothing last year if we had swapped keepers

Forever Spurs

CGan1..... Just my personal opinon mate and for what it's worth I think Dzeko is much better than Adebayor and would bring more to us than de does. Seem to remember everyone praying for Dzeko to come to us when we were touted to be in the market for him. Yes we broke our wage structure for Bale, but if reports are to be believed, we're about to break it again for a bloke who isn't fit to lace bales boots, let alone earn £15k a week more. Of course I saw his goals and assists record mate, I also saw him get assists through his inability to control the ball. He's a striker, his job is to score goals yet in twice the minutes Defoe had, he managed to score just one or two more goals. I guess time will tell which one of us is right, you rate him and that's fair enough. I think he flatters to deceive and that we'll regret signing him. I will happily hold my hands up nd admit I was wrong should he fire us to the CL though.

thfc1882whl

I`d prefer Dzeko to Adebayor too .

Trouble with Adebayor is you don`t know which Adebayor you`re going to get .
The one who works hard & looks world class
Or the one who sulks ,has an attitude problem & insists on falling out with everyone because he`s right & they`re all wrong .
Adebayor was great for a year but he does seem to carry this chip on his shoulder which shows itself more & more in time .

big cockeral

just read an article that says the reason chelsea can sign oscar wthout us getting first refusal is because he is not a product of inters academy and we only have first refusal on inters academy products as was agreed....coys

rovinella62spurs

thfc.. we have to trust Daniel Levy on Ade's contract, as his history of previous tenure at Man City, Gooners, R Madrid etc. has been part of the Due Dilligence file Levy must surely have in his office, since before we took him on loan. .. there has to be a get out clause for spurs.. As we all know he is a tough guy to do transfer dealings with, and especially after supporting Harry's player signings requests...

Block D Spurs

http://www.weaintgotnohistory.com/2012/7/10/3149009/a-quick-note-on-oscar-and-tottenhams-right-of-first-refusal

rovinella62spurs

Vorm although excellent at shot stopping, is the smallest GK in the Prem and isnt very commanding for me. Lloris is the right age and could be our GK for the next 10 years, as well as the French No1. Would be a great signing

HuddersfieldYiddo

Also, Peterbalb i used to defend Gomes even in the dark times but when he let Ronaldos goal go through him in the CL Quarter Final and then in the following game let Lampards long ranger go through him so comically enough was enough. The guy has everything to be a top keeper physically but he is completley lacking a brain. He is a clown of the highest order and if given chance again, will pull off a series of wonder saves followed by the most ridiculous error you will ever see. Not good enough i'm afraid

HuddersfieldYiddo

Have to agree big cockeril, our current transfer policy is looking rather excellent compared to the previous regime. Top young players at the right price, with bags of potential and with the sell on value that Mr Levy rightly insists on.

HuddersfieldYiddo

got say it will be interesting to see how Ade fits with our new system...as I said earlier I really hope Levy has a Higuain or Lewandowski up his sleeve....otherwise our hope for top4 will be chelsea, arse and pool being in disarray...I just can't see a forward three of defoe bale and lennon either scoring enough goals or defending well enough to get us into CL....

shedboy2

Loris will not be a good keeper in the EPL he actually reminds me of Craig Gordon. Give Swansea the money for Vorm, or if you want to risk big cash on an un-EPL tested keeper Stegen is a better bet.

spurdon

Oh and buy Butland and loan him back to Brum.

spurdon

Spurdon - have you researched Lloris?? The guy is a top top keeper!! Think you need to have a look at him before making rash statements!!

woodyn17

I just skyped with an old mate whose been working and living in Lyon for the past decade who told me that Lloris is the real deal. We'd be in luck to get him.

Total knobhead

Off topic but just seen that Defoe is the top substitute scorer of goals ever in the premiership

Big Ron

By the way i'm not saying i want Adebayor as first choice. I think we can do better than him. I think though he would be one hell of a reserve striker though. Considering we will have 60 games next season he will start more than enough to keep him happy too.

CGan1

It confuses me how 15m is only enough for an average midfielder yet bentley is often described as a huge waste of money....how we can take an 8m goalie and throw him with the stiffs whilst paying good wages to a 41 year old with no re-sale value. But 14m for lloris making him what was it? 3rd most expensive keeper? is a steal yet our record transfer is under 17m....yet we only offer 14m for Leandro who's scored goals for fun for the past few years But he's a risk because he plays in a different league...oh but so does Lloris but he's an international...oh but so is Leandro....but the best teams build from the back yet we are crying out for a striker.....Funny old game!!!

shedboy2

I do see the Gordon - Lloris comparison, both are goalkeepers and have dark hair

Spurs Allday

shedboy2 - Keepers can save you games. Strikers can win you games. Both pretty much as valuable as each other in my opinion. How much would Hart or Neuer be worth on market? 14m for Lloris is a snip in what he could offer us, he is someone that could win us 5 games due to saves - something that Brad didnt offer last season.

CGan1

CGan1 : IMO, Adybayor as a second striker will not work as he needs to be number one . Regarding the goalkeeper situation . I think Lloris will be a good signing but it's alot of money. Perhaps there's better value elsewhere.

ArnieArdiles

Have I missed something? Just heard on Talksport that Bale is on 105K p/w and we are going to pay Adebayor his full wages. Rumour is we have come into money! Is Levy being a sneeky bugger and not letting on that we are now super stocked in cash and can afford to buy Messi??!!!

Tactically Challenge

so Ox, a poll please, and pronto, to Lloris or not to Lloris

Cape Town Spurs

http://www.footballfancast.com/2012/07/football-blogs/north-london-giants-are-in-a-far-better-place-than-the-media-will-have-you-believe

rovinella62spurs

oh, and as far as the current poll, or specifically the Carvalho rumors, I'd rather have an '74 Austin Morris or an old Cortina or Granada, I mean they're all past it and destined to break down at any minute. Has anyone told RM OSF is no longer at the helm?

Cape Town Spurs

Gomes should have gone after pretending to be knocked out because he made a wild howler in the Europa league!!!!!! Never been so ashamed of one of my own players!!!

spurticus87

kernowboy71 - height isn't everything for a keeper. granted, i think 6ft is probably minimum but just because they are smaller than other keepers doesn't make them worse. same goes for taller keepers, just because they are 6,4 + doesn't make them anymore commanding than the next guy. to think that height makes a keeper commanding is quite a sunday league mindset. professional players will not think "***** this guy is tall, he must be good". what they might think is "***** this guy has got presence he must be good", commanding quality keepers have presence, i would say its more a factor of self confidence. look at joe hart - extremely confident/ even cocky in his own ability (quality keeper), look at casillas (6,1 at most) - he's got presence and is arguably one of the best if not the best keepers in the world for the last 5-10 years or whatever. our own great pat jennings (6ft flat) had presence, because he was confident and brave to go and collect the ball and not be afraid to get hurt etc etc... not having a go honestly :P just annoys me a bit when people say we should get this guy because he's 6,4 + or whatever - sorry for the rant ;)

rahn DMC

tc just heard it but thought it was 115000 for ade....seems we found an oil mine...lol...coys......is it the 25% invstment from quatar or bigger things......itks did say something big was on

rovinella62spurs

Who: jase_ace_uk Where: SO When: 10/07/12 jase_ace_uk said: Take it or leave it. As many already know my source is my father in law who is a scout at Wigan Athletic. I have been told that we have expressed an interest in Victor Moses.

rovinella62spurs

Who Phantom of the Lane Date 10th July Site COYS Can confirm now in discussions regarding transfer, AVB believes he will be the #1 for years to come, buys into Daniel's philosophy of buying for now and the future as the player is only 25, and obviously Brad can't go on forever and Carlo as the #2 obviously is nearing the end of his career. Not much more to add at this stage. POTL Scutch, Today at 11:51 AM #1

rovinella62spurs

In reply to rumours that VDV is leaving The original JJetset ‏@jetsetyid @markmalone91 @akqayid Fortunately for you and Tottenham it is not. AVB likes VDV!! ‪#dontgetridofyourbestplayers‬ gilzeantheking, Today at 1:37 PM #1

rovinella62spurs

@Vertonghen: Got my medical tests today, first training tomorrow at 10 o'clock!

Spurs999

OK, without reading the posts..... We've also enquired about Butland from the Brums, 19 yr old heir to Hart's thrown. Brums claim it would take a massive transfer to pry him away, but surely not even half of 13.5 mil quid. I'd much rather go this route.

tengboon

Hi guys read this for informed and truly objective reporting about us and the Arse: http://www.footballfancast.com/. Great reading!

spursa

Oh yes, and to add to that, it's basically accepted that Friedel will be a #2 on the bench this year, thus ending his all time record for league starts. He's said himself it's his last season. What about Gomes, he speaks Portuguese, could AVB get his real potential out of him that Harry couldn't? Or is it better to have Lloris in who can run the D in French with Kaboul and Vertonghen? It's either Lloris or Butland for me, either one to start, Friedel as 2, and probably Cudicini as the 3 with Gomes to go-go-go.

tengboon

tengboon unless he speaks mong he's not getting the best out of that blithering idiot

spurticus87

FYI regarding Lloris' height, Iker Casillas is 5ft 11 half inches! Champions League, World cup, double euro and multiple La liga winning GK and captain! Enough said!

Tactically Challenge

Peterbalb makes a good point, Friedel has a year left on his contract, as well as a year left on his desire to play, why not cash in now if we sign Lloris. Surely DL's taking this all into account

tengboon

Spurticus, he does, I saw it on mong.com/spurs.

tengboon

Peterbalb, I'm as much a Gomes fan as you are, he's got a bad rap, but I can't argue with Lloris as a potential starter. I just got distracted by Vital Swansea, who signed Johnathon De Guzman, so if someone snaps up Hoillett, we'll have two Canucks to follow in the Prem this year

tengboon

Look, the GK situation has to be resolved now, it's all about communication, always are downfall the last 3 years through injuries, changes, etc. Anyone remember when Gomes/Bassong/Dawson went 6 clean sheets in a row? Coz they had an understanding I reckon, Kaboul and Vertonghen need to know who's behing them to build the same rapport

tengboon

** tumbleweeds blowing through VS **

tengboon

4am Shanghai. Singapore (what_sux) asleep. Australia (Madabout and Syd) not quite awake. England (most of you) in rush hour traffic on the way home, or at the pub. Canada (peterballb) down at Tim Horton's. This is my black zone.

tengboon

Ffrom SC ITK section - Steffen Freund will be AVB's assistant and Leldey to announce retirement & join the coaches in next48 hours !!!!

sydqcb5

tengboon, I am awake & just doing my morning checks on if we signed someone else...unusally quiet in VS at this time of hour.

sydqcb5

Off topic here but it looks like we may be getting Ade for 5 million because citeh want RVP but we are also, apparently, going to pay virtually all his 170K per week. http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/4420305/Manchester-City-will-offload-Emmanuel-Adebayor-to-Tottenham-to-help-bring-in-Robin-van-Persie.html

chrishove123

As i mentioned before.. my 2nd very reliable ITK says Joe Lewis is bankrolling the new stadium. So Levy has a stockpile of cash he was going to use for this, can spend on players, training ground etc..

Block D Spurs

i can understand this signing totally. AVB likes a keeper with outfield ability. this enables the keeper to double up in the sweeper role. This is a AVB signing through and through. The guy is ultra-reliable but some might say unspectacular. That said I wonder how good his communication would be over here. Anyone know how good his English is?

Mickeys1969

I understand the money injection as well, because 'Arry was always a stop-gap solution, we're now, NOW, laying down our long-term plans. It's a beautiful thing!

tengboon

Syd, I just assumed you never slept. :)

tengboon

Mickeys, I've read that his English is fine, but I can't confirm that. I'm sure that the coaches would vett that out before they sign. Language has to be a big part of the scouting report, you would think

tengboon

Block D, I hope that's true, I prefer that Big Joe came into some extra cash to invest rather than going the Man City/QPR/PSG route of House Of Saud spoils.

tengboon

Mickeys, Kaboul, BAE all french speakers, I bet Vertonghen understands some french too. So, it shouldnt be massive problem.

sydqcb5

Chrishove, interesting. So basically, RVP is interested in Spurs, but not if Ade signs. Everyone knows, apparently, that 4-3-3 is the future of Spurs. Personally, I'm happy with Ade, Van Persie has too much immediate Goon guck that he needs to get rid somewhere else. Hope he goes to Barcelona/Real Madrid tho, don't want to face him on another team, let alone Man Citeh.

tengboon

teng.. I think Levy was in USA over last 10 days for meetings Joe, and investors / naming rights...If so, we will know by end of the month, and before stadium building / season starts.

Block D Spurs

I guess it would be unwise to go public & announce the new found investment now, this would drive these agents & clubs go crazy & hike up all the transfer of potential targets.
Hoping we can get Moutinho, Lloris, Adebayor &possibly Sturridge too.

sydqcb5

Syd, I'm down with everyone you mentioned aside from Moutinho, as I really believe Modric is staying, despite the press.

tengboon

I agree with peterballb regarding gomes. Friedel has studied at the harry school of making yourself look much better than you are and he graduated with honours. He never saves anything he shouldn't and never takes a risk in case he looks bad, never comes for crosses even when he blatantly should, never saves a penalty and never makes a save that makes you think "how the ***** did he do that?!?". Of course he doesn't make howlers either. Gomes on the hand lost his way a bit and being a sensitive soul he started to lose confidence big time. What people seem to forget is that he made saves that made superman look geriatric. the game when we beat arsenal to send us to the CL he made three saves within 5 minutes when any other keeper in the world couldn't have pulled off more than one of them. We should have lost that game, no question, and would have lost 5-2 if friedel was between the posts. The save from van persie's free kick was absolutely inhuman. Plus Gomes saves an inordinate number of penalties - probably more than 1 in 3 and over the course of a season that alone equates to more points saved than his admitedlly high profile blunders cost us. I simply cannot accept that that sort of talent can be so readily cast aside because he lost confidence and flaps at crosses. What friedel has can be learnt, was gomes has is just extraordinary ability. I really hope that, while I would be happy to see lloris come in as number 1, that gomes can be retained as second choice, get at least 20 games in cups etc and regain his mojo. sell brad now for whatever, get his doubtless much higher salary off the books and get gomes happy again, that could be worth quite a few million if he moves on in a year or two

Guernman

I hope this rumour that we have agreed to pay adebayor 175,000 per week is ********* though, that would be crazy

Guernman

Huddersfield, if memory serves, Lampard's was tipped by a defender who should have either blocked it or gotten out of the way. Ronaldo's he was also unsighted but I take it he was as off as the rest of the team after the Crouch madness. He didn't cost us the game, it was already lost. COYS

peterballb

tengboon, Hoilett and Jackson. de Guzman, while born here, considers himself Dutch. Not at Tim Horton's as the work is still piled up. On my way to the Go, though. COYS

peterballb

No way will levy pay £175k a week to anyone...

Block D Spurs

Block D too right mate, some of the figures being bandied about by the press is utter madness. Still I guess it's easier for them to hate Adebayor if they can con themselves into believing he's still on ridiculous money

Spurs Allday

4-3-3.....Lloris(gk) Walker(rb) Kaboul(cb) Verts)cb) BAE(lb) Sandro(dm) Moutinho(am) Siggy(am) Bale(lw) Lennon/Remy(rw) Ade(st).............other solid additions to the squad... Beñat Etxebarria, Mateo Kovačić, Victor Moses, M'Baye Niang, Adam Johnson, Clint Dempsey, Affelay,

Yidmarks

Mateo Kovačić

Yidmarks

Mateo Kovacic... feckin hell...3rd time lucky..

Yidmarks

If Ade signs, he will get his one way or another. Signing bonus and years added to the contract would be my guess. What surprises me is that PSG or a Russian club aren't in for him. Even Chelsea. He and Torres, when in the mood, could be lethal. COYS

peterballb

i thought dzagoev was on the cards... he looks rather handy on the ball...

Yidmarks

Yidmarks, Affelay would be awesome. I'd also add Castaignos and Perisic to your list. COYS

peterballb

Amen Guernman. COYS

peterballb

Van Persie would make us immediate contenders. He is that good. If we could get him and leave Adebayor on City's books, I'd be ecstatic. COYS

peterballb

I believe the figure being paid to Adebayor is 115k a week plus a £4m signing on fee. Adebayor gives the vast majority of his wages to charity which is why he was reluctant to take a massive pay cut. Bale is on over 100k a week now too. We used to have a wage cap, not anymore it seems.

CGan1

peterballb - Van Persie?? We wish mate.

Affelay would definitely be perfect signing. A lot cheaper than the figures being touted around for certain brazilian players too. Would love us to sign Oscar but no chance we should risk 25m on him. We could get Affelay and Moses for less than it would cost for just Oscar.

CGan1

Yidmarks - I like all your subs but would rather we saved our money on substitutes and bought a better striker than Adebayor. Wouldn't want Adam Johnson whilst we already have GDS. Also Dempsey is too old to purchase now.

CGan1

get the new goalie :) . holliet could play in a 433 system couldn't he ? and what if say Real Madrid offered us Kaka and 30 million would we take it? ( for Modric ).probably mean Vdv would have to go aswell.

lentop

Actually, I'd suggest Dempsey is the perfect type of player. Just seems to manage and works hard. North American players tend to last longer due to the relatively light extectations when tbey are young. COYS

peterballb

Sign Van Persie and perhaps Modric stays. COYS

peterballb

Although signing Kaka would buck our new recent trend of younger players.HOw old is Ade ? if he is 28 or 29 he would want a 3 or 4 year deal surely ?

lentop

Love the press. VDV to Schalke i could kind of see, wife wanting him back to Germany and Schalke in CL. Schalke pull out so press think....hmmm...who then, oh i know his ex club Hamburg. A club that came 15th last season, no CL, no money, no immediate future. The Schalke announcement means VDV is going nowhere.

CGan1

If we got Van Persie we would no doubt get the one that played one full season (last season) in 10 seasons he had more physio visits than sick note Shaggy ever did.

nomorewhlegends

peterballb - Sigurdsson is Dempsey. We don't need two versions of same player. I think even if we signed Messi Modric would go, once Real Madrid come knocking it is hard to argue with his want to leave.

lentop - Madrid would never offer us Kaka + 30m. More like a straight swap, in that case i would say no. Kaka still has a lot to offer but he is nowhere near what he was. I would prefer a Ganso or Oscar who are yet to reach potential and could be incredible.

CGan1

I know what I meant......

nomorewhlegends

I think spurs allday said Kaka is desperate to go back to Ac Milan. I agree get one of the young Brazillian lads in.As long as they aren't a kleberson or the one who was at newcastle years back. Mirandina was it ? Plus Kaka would want mega money.

lentop

Damiao's more the necessity than Oscar or Ganso, hope we get him this time. Dempsey's no longer an option with the Sig on board we don't need a 29 year old who does the same job, it's just clogging us up(as good as he is).

Lloris seems to be a guy who's outgrown French football. Best GK for three years running tells me the guy needs a new challenge and he comes with far more pedigree than Vorm did last year so why not take the chance?

Spurs Allday

Lloris looks likely. Adebayor will be announced this week. Modric to Madrid and Moutinho to us looks inevitable too. With Reading bidding for Defoe (12m?!?!?!?), I am very interested in who the other striker will be that we sign. I'm assuming that we will spend money on one other striker and for the 3rd choice either trust Harry Kane or get a freebie/cheap experienced striker. As no point in spending money on someone who may barely play (crossing fingers that our other 2 strikers stay fit). I literally have no idea who AVB will be looking at. Damiao has been a name thrown about but considering he has turned us down many times can't see it. The strikers he would want, Falcao, Hulk, Higuain, we have no chance of getting. Really have no idea who he will sign.

At the minute it looks like this, assuming transfers go through this week/next:
GK's: Lloris, Friedal, Gomes (?)
Defenders: Vertonghen, Kaboul, Dawson, Caulker, Carvalho (?), Walker, BAE, Smith, Naughton, Fryers, Lascelles
Midfielders: Bale, Lennon, VDV, Sigurdsson, Moutinho, Sandro, Parker, Huddlestone, Livermore, GDS StrikersAdebayor, Kane

I have left out Rose as can see him going. Townsend and Carroll etc will most likely be loaned or perhaps Townsend will be sold.
The defence and keepers looks great, best i have seen. Central midfield looks strong and with options and depth. Wide areas looks thin, we need a back up pacey winger (Moses?). Strikers looks obviously light until we sign another big name striker. We would have that squad and with sales of Modric and Defoe we have not spent any money. If AVB has say 50m to spend before sales we could buy a great back up winger for 10m and throw 40m at buying a striker, who? I have no idea.

CGan1

CGan1 I get the feeling the strikers we're looking at are Damiao as the out-an-out No9 and then one of Remy or Sturridge to fill in as a No9 but also play and provide a much needed goal threat from RW. Just a hunch.

Spurs Allday

Of course the name Hulk keeps cropping up as a RW/ST option but I'll believe that one when I see it

Spurs Allday

Spurs Allday - and Adebayor? I can definitely see Sturridge coming. Damiao yet to be convinced due to his comments the other week.

CGan1

CGan1 yes mate sorry I just consider Adebayor a done deal already. On top of his signing we still need another No9 and a RW so why not sign a No9 and RW that can also play as a No9 in an injury crisis, I can see Levy going for it.

Spurs Allday

1st team:
Lloris
Walker Kaboul Vertonghen BAE
Moutinho Sandro Sigurdsson
Lennon Damiao Bale

2nd team:
Gomes
Smith Caulker Dawson Fryers
Huddlestone Parker VDV
Sturridge Adebayor GDS

Looks very very good.

CGan1

CGan, Sigurdsson will one day be Dempsey, who is very much the second striker I expexted VDV to be, and he is very good defensively.

At striker, I'd like to see us get Ba, Castaignos and Leandro. Keep Defoe until January to let Leandro and Castaignos bed in. Still, RVP, for me, ticks all of the boxes and in a 4-3-3 could be dynamite. COYS

peterballb

Spurs Allday - Yeah agree, Sturridge or Remy would be very clever signing.

CGan1

CGan1 I wouldn't pay too much mind to Damiao's comments as they're almost identical to Oscar's comments so most probably something they're told to say by their club when questioned on transfers.

Spurs Allday

CGan, there should not be first team/second team. There should just be a squad. Options. COYS

peterballb

peterballb - Stop saying RVP :P...........Demba Ba would be great, very cheap too. Castaignos has a lot of potential but having him and Damiao would be too much of a risk for me. Adebayor, Ba and Sturridge for me.

CGan1

peterballb - yeah, i know, just my way of writing it out. With the 60 odd games we will need all the players to play their part.

CGan1

Guernman Or we could get Gomes so happy again that he regains all his old confidence and plays to the level we both know he can so he can come back as our number one in a season then we can have one of our kids as number two and sell Lloris on for a tidy little profit.

chrishove123

chrishove123 - Gomes will never be as good as Lloris. Confidence or not. Lloris is in the top ten keepers on the planet. I really thought Gomes was out of contract anyway, but according to site i'm looking at his contract runs until 2014, he signed a 6 year deal when he signed?

CGan1

lentop Yes mate it was something I read(in Marca I think) Kaka's supposedly begging Madrid to let him go back to Milan, given his past ties it makes sense. Us buying him can only be about shirt sales or about our "global brand" because as sad as it is the guy looks shot and I'd strongly doubt he'd handle the pace of the PL

Spurs Allday

After reading all the posts from you guys who are far more knowledgable than me, I come to the conclusion that we should just cough up the big bucks and get Lloris and our back line indeed is sorted. Now re. strikers...... COYS. HAPPY DAYS :-))

Madaboutspurs

Get Kovacic now...he'll be a better replacement to Modric than Oscar.....Plus, then, Modric might stay....

dcruzer

KOVACIC and COUTINHO!!!

dcruzer

Also, I don't know why people haven't been mentioning Coutinho, who is on a free from Inter Milan, GET HIM and Castaignos...they are as cheap as you can get them!!!

dcruzer

Coutinho and Castaignos would be sweet and would definitely be a coup. COYS

peterballb

Kaka I understand has offered to rake a big pay cut to go back to Milan which is where he wants to be

Forever Spurs

Friedel "We'll welcome any good addittion to the squad. No secret Tottenham need a long term keeper... could be my final season"

FifaKing

See someone say Lloris was named 'keeper of the year' last year?? That's rubbish, he concedes more goals than all of the relegated teams and had a absolute mare apparently! Is he the right man for the job, could be another Gomes! Krul for me!

liamyid

Mike Ashley will not sell Krul to us on the cheap, he will be demanding top price for him.

what_sux

Plus Krul has already stated that he doesn't want to move.

Spurs Allday

Yes please. Make Lloris no 1, Friedel no 2/ europa league. Promote one of the good young keepers to no3 and Carling cup duty.

Wilts Spurs

I'm amazed that it shocks some people that Brad knows this will be his last season....FFS he's 41...shall we see if Stan Colymore wants to play up front? he's the same age and got plenty of experience....

shedboy2

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