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Predictions??

New man. New system. New club. There is a change in the air at our beloved club, and its not just the chemical atmosphere in and around our new training ground...

The days of last minute Nelsen's seem to be over, now being replaced with ready for pre-season Vertonghen's. It has already been a summer of change for Spurs, and we haven't kicked a ball yet! We now have a manger who looks at the present AND future rather than the present using players from the past, (Saha...). But I ask you. How long will it be before the ball starts rolling and we see our Spurs back where we want them to be, or will the ball get rolling at all??

Lets build from the back. Defence. We all know that AVB is a big fan of the high line, even if it has players who look like they're running backwards when they sprint, (Terry...) playing in the heart of it. Some say this shows naivety from the young man. But if our back line suits the high defensive line system then why is it a problem?

I personally believe that people are mistaken when they say he is naive. I'll give you an example. The Chavs at home to Man City on a cold Monday night. AVB begins the match with a high line and City pull them apart, splitting their back four like a knife through butter. But, the second half starts and its a new system from Chelsea. They are now playing deeper and as a result they run out deserved winners against a team of the highest quality that was in their pump. Where is the naivety?

Now to the midfield. We are also aware that our new man is a big fan of the 4-3-3, as am I, winning cup after cup using this system with my very own Spurs side on football manager. Why do I use this system? Again, because our players suit the system to perfection. A ball playing side with a world class midfield that look to control the game. AVB's eyes light up with delight. We have the deep lying playmaker of our midfield maestro Modric. If he leaves, we replace him another world class player similar to Luka's style, (Moutinho??).

We then have the brawler, grafter, energetic box to box midfielder of Sandro. The perfect player for the solid part of the midfield three. Then comes along our goal scoring midfielder, the advanced playmaker. Sigurdsson or VDV, perfect options for that third man who completes the trio.

The forward line, where the magic really happens. We have the outlets of the wide boys, so quick Usain Bolt would have to look twice. These two speed merchants, Bale and Lennon (or other?) will look to provide and score, (probably not Lennon in all honesty). But who will they provide to? It looks ever increasingly that that man will be Adebayor. He is in my opinion, the exact type of striker we need in order for this 4-3-3 to work. Holds the ball up superbly, but is also constantly on the move confusing defenders and opposition managers alike as they scratch their heads as to how they will cope with Adebayor pulling out to the left whilst Bale tears through the middle getting the goal (Norwich anyone??).

If we get another striker, which I suspect we will then I'll leave that to you as to who you think it will be or who you'd like. For me, someone young, versatile, and energetic, not the greedy so an so called Sturridge. So there we are. All change at Tottenham Hotspur, but how long until we get back where we should be, or will we? Cheers.

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Date:Thursday July 12 2012

Time: 5:18PM

Your Comments

I predict first! Oh the irony
spurticus87
Hard to say what to expect and how fast the players will be to adapt to our new tactics. There can't be a doubt that AVB does not understand the game, he does perfectly. Interesting times ahead.
ledgespur
I predict great things for the new season with a manager that has clear ideas on how football should be played
ItalianYiddo
I'd take Sturridge! But yeah, good points well made... Spurs on the up.
SamParadise
Interesting development on adebayor, who is pictured in a player profile on the spurs official site in the new shirt: http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs/Team/First+Team+Profiles.page?PlayerName=Emmanuel%20Adebayor make of that what you will...
oxfordspur
Share your sentiments exactly I'm so excited for the new season to kick off a little more investment and avb and I fully believe we'll be challenging for first place in the league
spurticus87
I can't say I can agree that Ade is the perfect striker for our supposed new formation, think we need a quicker-more balanced type......Suarez to me would be spot on.
ledgespur
Top 6 = Average Top 5 and a trophy= good 4 and a trophy Very Good 3rd and a trophy= Brillant 2nd and a trophy= Estatic 1st and= Cloud 9 Anything else is not acceptable
redhotspur1234
Hello Ox, Hows your helmet hair today? Interesting he's on the profile.....depends when the profile went up, any idea?
ledgespur
Although, Vertonghen is a big buy, if we end up with last seasons team with Vert partnering Kaboul, Modric replaced by Moutinho and VDV replaced by Sig, then have we improved? Defensively, sure, but even signing the latter two isn't necessarily going to make up for losing two of our 3 world class midfielders.
SamParadise
we're all dead in November anyway aren't we? I predict a huge bidding war between Real and PSG... 40m+! I really hope we see players adapting well to the new system and players believing in themselves and their abilities and mostly putting bloody effort in. If we get these things right in the first few games we could grow used to these habitual changes.
yidinchina
@ SamParadise, though I agree on those three players, I think what is important is the strength and balance beyond the best XI and the ability to rotate without having to alter the system or lose out on quality
oxfordspur
I predict Spurs winning a cup, .

To do well in the league we still need a Goalkeeper ,2 strikers ,a right winger & a replacement for the departing Modric .I even think that BAE needs cover
big cockeral
3rd, Our squad is going to be top quality and well drilled!
Tactically Challenge
Is there an elephant in the room...........???
ledgespur
It does also depend on what other clubs do .

Last season i`ve seen some of them look so poor ,even man United .Last season was a massive missed opportunity so lets hope next season they`ll give us another .

Lets hope RDM flops at Chelsea .
Rodgers flops at Liverpool
Man United continue to drop their standards
And Wenger has another nightmare 1st 3 months .
big cockeral
What elephant there ledge?
spurticus87
I agree with big cockeral. It depends on other teams. Where is Jimmy-Yid?
taniban
@Ox, Ade not up there anymore?
ledgespur
@Spurticus87.....lol, I don't know mate maybe it was a mouse with a big nose!! :-)
ledgespur
that is very intersting. did some one make a small error...
oxfordspur
I predict a riot.
vicspur
3rd/4th and a trophy is the most we can hope for I reckon !!! Anything better than that would be amazing !!!!!!! :)
redhotspur1234
I prefer that no one else post on this thread so I can claim last. Seriously, though, I have more optimism going into this season than any other season is a long time. I'm not convince that we will get there results we want right out of the shoot, although I hope so, but I think AVB is likely to put into place a system that makes sense and will play in the real Spurs tradition. He also strikes me as an essentially bright lad. Onward and upward. I feel good about our current direction.
Total knobhead
Big c, do Matteo will screw it up. He inherited a squad of well rested and ageing ego's who flunked their way to the cl trophy! If he had started there that season lamps, terry and drog would have all been exhausted come march! Avb had them well rested ;) arsenal are in a slight turmoil after Rvp's revelation, man it'd are losing all their top youngsters in an ageing squad and Liverpool just don't have the players!! We have the talent we just needed to be well drilled and organised which is something I'm hoping avb will bring to the table viva la spurs!!!
spurticus87
Despite everything I'm still expecting a bumpy ride next season. 5th/6th.
RyanHotSpur
Interesting indeed......
ledgespur
Just glad AVB is talking about winning trophies. What a refreshing change. I hated the Harry era for treating cups as a distraction and putting all our eggs in the 'Top 4' basket. Where exactly did that get us as fans? Lets use this fantastic squad to win something now as well as seeing how we go in the league - anywhere in the Top 6 would be ok, but Top 4 would be ideal for the money it brings.
StillRickyVilla
I've been satbherebtry to think of my predictions and deleted it everytime the one thing I would like above everything else this season is to finish higher than Arsenal with good cup runs in LC & FA cup showcasing some of our newest raw talent to help develop their chances of breaking into the first 11 Coulibaly is the one player I would love to see given a chance I really think that kid is going to be something very special and I would like Levy to stick a £100m release clause in any future contract extensions. I would also like to see us win the EL :) I like many Spurs fans do truly believe that this is finally the catalyst to seeing our club a force to,be reckoned with and to wipe the smug smiles off of those goon arse faces!!!!!!!!!!
Whitehart Lad
Too early to tell. If we only add ade then 4th/5th with a good but fruitless cup run. If we get GK, RW/RF, Ade & 1Striker we may challenge again and ultimately end 3rd. If AVB wants to try in all cups and League our back 5 is strong enough to rotate but Mid and Strikers are not.
Wilts Spurs
HA HA Look at the strikers Harry left us with ,you couldn`t make it up

http://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/spurs/Team/first-team-profiles.page?
big cockeral
Can't decide who will be our first 11. Current squad lacks real leadership except Parker and VDV but neither are starters under AVB? Make Sandro or Kaboul or Vert skipper? Excited so far but feel other than Bentley, Jenas, Khumalo, bassong we should be looking at one in - one out in transfers or we may be well short on numbers unless the kids are good enough to be named in the 25 or step up regularly. Hope Coulibally gets a chance.
Wilts Spurs
Actually tbh can we leave this topic until a week before the season starts because we don't really know what other signings we are going to be bringing in/going out and as a consequence don't know how we are going to be lining up??? Due to this we cannot make a fair judgement but thats just my honest opinion !! :)
redhotspur1234
Big C need some height up there.
Wilts Spurs
JimmyTHEyid is here,I'm just doing my usual, browsing and reading with nothing serious to add. Have to say I've not been the biggest fan of ABV but he's in now and I'll certainly give him a chance, most of you folks seem to like him and you seem to know more than me. I hope I'm singing his name very soon, my hopes get built up by the Spurs fans positivity and then TalkSport bring it down again, So come on AVB.
jimmytheyid
It may have been a small error or a beautifully ironic article related post lol couldn't help myself when I read the title. Sorry ox :)
spurticus87
Big Cockeral He was also After David Beckham Phil Neville ??? I mean what was THAT all about !!!!! Good job we got rid I say !!! AVB has my full backing he will do a good Job Look at the players we have for goodness sake Also apart from Martin Lipton,Oliver Holt and Jason Burt all the other journo's are p.ss me off espcially John CROSS cannot STAND THAT MAN Anyone agree ???
redhotspur1234
Spurticus,I think he was talking about the Ade mess up on the website,they had a pic of Ade in new kit and then took it down.
ledgespur
Big Cockeral He was also After David Beckham Phil Neville ??? I mean what was THAT all about !!!!! Good job we got rid I say !!! AVB has my full backing he will do a good Job Look at the players we have for goodness sake Also apart from Martin Lipton,Oliver Holt and Jason Burt all the other journo's p.ss me off espcially John CROSS cannot STAND THAT MAN Anyone agree ???
redhotspur1234
Also any one know what happend in the England vs Greece game Under 19's ???
redhotspur1234
It will very much depend who we buy up front (25+ goals) - Ade good addition but not 'the one' - and who replaces Modric as our playmaker. The other positions IMO are less of a concern for me albeit we will need to strengthen in one or two positions at some point
sandrotheman
Oh we lost what a surprise Poor Harry Kane !!! :(
redhotspur1234
England went out in extra time .England dominated ,missed a penalty & even had one more man .No matter where they go & what age group always those penalties that cost them .
big cockeral
@ledge that's okay then thought I might have been in trouble then
spurticus87
If we sign a ST who will score us 20 goals next season like Rooney and RVP do for their clubs then in my opinion our starting 11 is the 2nd best behind Man City. So 2nd place is an achievable aim. The issue last season was our depth (use) of squad. We could in theory have Sigurdsson, Parker, Huddlestone, Caulker, Dawson, Adebayor, GDS, Adrian (?) in reserve. That is one hell of a back up and again possibly only 2nd to City. If we win FA cup or Europa and come 3rd I'd be delighted.
CGan1
I Predict we finish above le Arse!!!
redhotspur1234
Options of Moutinho, Sandro, VDV, Parker, Sigurdsson, Huddlestone looks extremely strong. It's all about the striker now, still not convinced Ade will be AVBs first choice, who will this mystery new striker be? We are buying Moutinho and possibly Adrian with Modric money. I just got a feeling we may spend 25m+ on a striker.
CGan1
redhotspur1234 You are right though ,article is premature ,by about 5 weeks .Once we know our squad & others squad then we`ll have a clearer picture .

As it stands our strikers are Defoe & Gio Dos Santos .:O
big cockeral
Predictions - We will not have the same transfer targets as last year ;-)
what_sux
big cockeral - Don't forget Gio Dos Santos is not much of a striker, more of a winger lol.
what_sux
69(4TH),62(5TH), and 70(4TH) were the 3 seasons that HR was in charge of from start to finish. I think it would be fair to say that this is what the minimum expectations need to be for AVB. HR had a quarter final exit to Real Madrid in the CL but won no trophies. Also, we were raved about being the most exciting club to watch so that has to be maintained as well to an extent...although I will prefer results over style many times. I am not an HR lover and it was time to part ways but these are the bare minimum expectations to a coach who has full support from the board! He deserves time to get adjusted but 4th place is expectation and probably a trophy but maybe not in the 1st year. He has the resources to succeed now lets see if he is actually all the rave.
RagingSpur
Adebayor 'holds the ball up superbly'? Not sure about that one at all. Too many times the lad receives the ball and his first touch knocks it 15 ft away from him. If he shows the same commitment as last season we will get away with it. If not he will be a nightmare for us.
Jocka10
Chi0Š1ckens have no visible balls..I expect nothing less from cowards who are hoping that the two clubs that have dominated the epl should flop..Oh what a shame...Reality check sweethearts..Your team with all the players u have now are still mediocre and not world class except for bale,lennon and modric with the latter going from a club that clearly lacks ambition (playing in the ucl)..U should be modest and stop pining for false hope..Its an achievement as usual for u if u make top 4..Hope the europa league specialist coach wins it for u..I wont want to see u go trophyless would i? Man utd will be stronger,city again would be a force to be reckoned with, chelsea without any need for more reinforcement is already formidable...So wake up and smell the coffee lads....Wait a minute!! Did i just smell fear in here? Tsk tsk tsk..Better not pee ur pants and pluck ur feathers,a lil banter is sure sweet aint it?
Desmondadonis
It all depends on who we finish up with at the end of the window, which of course all depends on whether Modric finally goes, where to, and how much money is raised to replace him. If he stays, which must be unlikely, then we will probably settle for Ade, anothr striker, and a GK. If he goes for decent money, we will get the aforementioned, pus replacement for him, plus maybe a RW if there is enough left over. Regarding what we will do, I think we will finish 3rd/4th, and I think we will finish above Arsenal, who I think will struggle without RVP. I think that given his lesson at Chelsea, that AVB may modify the system that he tried to play there, he may still play 4-3-3, but not pushing up with such a high line, which is not suited to the PL.
Frank
If Modric goes I still don't see us signing Lloris, Ade, Moutinho, and another expensive striker...1 of those will not be signed for sure. I do believe if Modric is sold that Lloris, Ade, and Moutinho may be signed but I think even with AVB Moutinho isn't 100% thing because someone may come in and offer Porto full price which we won't because its about what we will get for Modric and they may offer wages. I would like to get Moutinho but I think its far more complicated than some seem to think. It goes just like Modric and Levy...if Levy decides to let Modric go for less he will go and I don't think Porto will budge very much on the Moutinho price so this will be a dilemma for a while.
RagingSpur
On different subject is it going to e Harry Rednapp to Nottingham Forest I hope not as my dad supports Forest.

I would love to see Forest back in the PL their ground is great and it would make my dad appy.
Im not predicting pormations and players I prefer tosee what happens exciting times.
thfan
PREDICTIONS --- A lot of press articles keep quoting various xxm for Modders to Madrid, the latest was 40m, One Prediction; Levy will not be selling him to another prem club, Only the powers that be, know exactly what is going on, but for 40m or as near as, it looks good business for both club (spurs) and player, this will give us the money to invest in Moutinho, which the current Porto Manager quotes 31.5m, So we still have a profit of 8.5 and get another very good player as a replacement. Should VDV leave, we can add in around the same fee again, predicting a spend of 17m, this is more then enough to buy Ade, if as AVB says, he would like him with us. With Caulker who is like having another new player, just like Walker last season, Vertonghen all done and dusted, Siggy i feel will be a very big player for us, both Siggy and Vertonghen have great ability from set plays, so another Prediction is we will score goals from ''free kicks'' in and around the box, something we missed out on last season, it was Pav who got one to go in; Walker got one, apart from VDV in South Africa friendly, that's it I think? AVB wants to have a look at Naughton, Southampton have been quoted a bid of 5m, i can't remember what we paid for him and i'm not looking on Wiki; Also subject to tribunal Fryers, who can play both LB and Left Sided in a centre half pairing. So we have already got some excellent players, we just need Modders to decide and Moutinho coming in, that looks like the way this is going; Another Prediction, i feel AVB will give Souley his chance to show us what he can do, his been doing very well in the next gen games, his young, but looks stronger, this kid could be another Rooney waiting to happen, Souley has something, you can't teach players, that eye for goal, If he was to turn out like my all time idol, Jimmy Greaves or half as good, what a player Souley will be. A lot is made of the 4-3-3 AVB likes, what AVB does like is wingers, who have pace, we have two Bale and Lennon, but that's it, as we all know. But 4-3-3 can quickly turn into 4-5-1, once we lose the ball, also he could play out a 4-2-3-1, what ever the system, you need the players to carry this out and it only happens through hard work on the training ground, PREDICTION with the right players, with the right system, anything could happen. I feel we will win something this season, but the team that plays in Europa, will be out to win it. Like all the others we contest.
spu 4 life
Careful mate.
what_sux
Desmondnopenis- ?
big cockeral
I think we need to add a striker or two even if we get Ade. I do not think that Defoe will be with us at the start of the season. I think a top goalkeeper is a must and Lloris will fit in well. We need a keeper that will be quick off his line if we are to play a high line. Sorry Brad but that will not be you. A replacement for Modric. I would like us to get another right winger in to pressure Lennon, maybe another left back but that could be the kid we get from United. I would like to keep hold of Gallas if King is finished. Then we could be set. Would still want rid of Bentley and JJ to name but two. But it has to all be done by the time the season kicks off and with better planning before then.
nothappyharry
Desmondo - must be a 15 year old who doesn't remember Chavski before Stalin bailed therm out!!!
woodyn17
Desmondadonis - you must be a quality control chicken farmer or a pervert, looking for chickens balls, false hope, false tits, false supporters, which one are you? every club has hope, none of which is false, we enjoy Vital Spurs, we may even enjoy chicken, not for everyone; run along it's nearly bed time.
spu 4 life
Main thing is AVB's main ambition is to actually win trophies - not to turn us into Arsenal Top 4 Building Society. He's talking a good game about winning trophies to supplement strong league finishes and thats just fine with me. As long as we play good football, respect and compete for all trophies I am happy. I hated the Harry era obsession with finishing Top 4 for ever more as if that is some kind of end in itself.
StillRickyVilla
SKY SOURCES

Real Madrid confident of getting Modric

AND Joao Moutinho keen on move to Tottenham Hotspur .
big cockeral
1st Citeh; 2nd Manure; 3rd SPURS; 4th Newcastle; 5th Chelski; 6th Le Arse; 7th Liverpoo YOU SAW IT HERE FIRST :D
WulfSpurs
I take it everyone knows why Defoe is not in pic with team for new kit launch??? He's in St Lucia I had a phone call from him asking me not to forget to feed his fish
Whitehart Lad
He asked me to put his bin out
big cockeral
Did Desmondadonis just call Lennon world class...???
TopSpur13
Twitter - Lots of you asking why Defoe's missing from new kit photoshoot. He was given absence that day (last season) as his father was unwell.
TopSpur13
Loving picks of jan and gylfi in new kit on website. But is anyone freaked out how daws appears in pretty much every image?
micyid
Does anyone think we should go and steal Junior Hoilett from under the noses of QPR??? :)
redhotspur1234
Anyone know the news on King Ledley? i noticed he is on the squad list and pictured in the full kit
dicookio
4-3-3.... GK..WALKER..VERTS..KABOUL..BAE.. SANDRO..MOUTINHO..SIGGY................ BALE..ADRIAN..ADE..
Yidmarks
We need top four but may have to settle for 5th simply because so much has changed at the top; but 4th looks realistic. Newcastle will not do as well, overperformed last season and players will be found out. Liverpool are not good enough for what Rogers wants and Chelski are making purchases that show little strategy...they will miss Drogba more than they realise. Citeh will be stronger and Fergie / Wenger can't ever be underestimated.
Forever Spurs
Awww PSG PSG PSG.. Can't see them spending any money on Modric now so its all down to Madrid.
TopSpur13
Keep dreaming spurs..You wont make top 4 as avb would stubbornly ostracize ur best players from the first team,u wont beat any top 4 team, not chelsea,not city,not manutd and arsenal will beat u as usual at the 3 points lane.. U heard it here first roflmao!! Kdb,mata,torres,hazard,marko marin,ramires,cahill,david luiz,ivanovic,ashley cole and b¨ªig pete..Doesnt these names ooze of quality? With prospects like oscar and hulk along with jovetic..Hmmmn
Desmondadonis
I'd put good money that were finish no higher then 4th, no lower than 5th!
liamyid
We should ditch calling him AVB and just call him VB
duckworth
Desmondnopenis - Hazard is a very good player, nearly close to lacing Bales boots. Mata is almost as good as Modric or Moutinho. Torres, umm yeah no comment needed. Marin was very mediocre last season, u should have Reus who is a fantastic player. Ramires vs Sandro, Sandro would eat him for breakfast. Lol at Luiz, we just bought one of best defenders in Europe in Vertonghen. You came 6th last year, not due to anything but is where you deserved to finish. Drogba gone, Lampard past it and a manager who won't last 6 months. 4th is best you can hope for. AVB just got a promotion, we've got a title to challenge for.
CGan1
I predict that Christmas will fall on December the 25th.
chrishove123
Forever Spurs - Why would have to settle for 4th? We are better than Arsenal and they are losing their best player. We have signed a defender who will greatly improve our defence. We may lose Modric but Moutinho is perfect replacement. We have Sig who gives us options. Lloris on the way probably so better keeper and a striker who is better than Defoe. We will start season with better team/squad than last year, so as we should have finished 3rd surely that is minimum we should aim for.
CGan1
What a clown "doesnt these names ooze" try this "Don't these names ooze" Just because you speak that way, does not mean that is how you write it my friend.
ledgespur
Would you say this is Uniteds best 11? De Gea. Jones, Vidic, Ferdinand, Evra. Carrick, Scholes, Young. Valencia, Rooney, Wellbeck......How many players out of that team would you have in this team? Lloris. Walker, Kaboul, Vertonghen, BAE. Moutinho, Sandro, VDV. Lennon, Adebayor, Bale......Personally for me Rooney, Valencia and Vidic.
CGan1
Oh my bad....just noticed you are a Chelsea fan, please ignore my post. Credit to you lad for the ability to write at all, well done.
ledgespur
Strikers, strikers, strikers. Until our front 3 (assuming 4-3-3) are nailed down, can't predict. Other than Ade, we really haven't been heavily linked with ANY other strikers! I think Sturridge would be great, everyone says he's selfish etc. but he proved at Bolton he can adjust and find the net. Damiao of course, but that looks like a pipe dream now, apparently Levy is the one who likes Remy, he wouldn't start much though and I don't think he'd be down with that. Then again neither would Defoe, and I don't see how he can fit in playing left or right in a 4-3-3, don't think he's ever had to do that. Probably needs to go at his age. If GDS stays, Ade signs, and we get Sturridge, and Kane gets a first team call-up, I think we're good.
tengboon
Lloris, I fear, is not gonna happen. They've put a July 15th deadline on his transfer, and deny receiving any bid from Spurs. I thought Butland would be a better choice, but Brum says it would take "silly money". Surely not as "silly" as for Lloris! My thoughts? Gomes is fit, speaks Portuguese. Brazil 2nd choice, or maybe 3rd now. I would be very satisfied with Gomes starting with Friedel as back up, and Cudicini for the Euros.
tengboon
Whos the muppet managing Eng U19 - Kane was a unused sub against a 10men Greece & they lost it !Unless Kane was injured, there was no reason to leave him out
sydqcb5
After all, Gomes has a brand new CB pairing to work with now with Kaboul and Vertonghen, surely pre-season is enough to work out communication and a comfort level. Any subs that come in, Gomes would already be familiar with somewhat. He's the bomb, I think half his howlers were the fault of dodgy CB's in front
tengboon
tengboon - Considering we have refused to do business with Chavs regarding Modric no chance they will sell us Sturridge. I genuinely think there is a massive shortage of top quality strikers who we could theoretically buy and aren't out of our reach (ie Higuain, Hulk, Falcao, Cavani). My feeling is we should try for Cisse of Newcastle. One of best finishers around, proven in PL, it would take big money but we were rumoured to be bidding 20m for Damaio who is completely unproven out of Brazil.
CGan1
Ma¨´ta in par with modric? Are u on some cheap abanned substance? U can compare mata with silva not some girly lad who could not have 10 goals or assist,ur comparison is so laughable! Vertoghen one of the best defenders in europe? U must be kidding me!! Who cant lace who's 0Š2boot... Too much of hashish would do more damage to ur brain than it is now...Lawd almighty,what a joke of a club and a joke calling himself a fan!!...Spur what?
Desmondadonis
sydqcb5 - I was thinking same thing. Kane was only striker proven at any level and he didn't come off bench. Redmond of Birmingham too didn't get used. Very strange.
CGan1
Desmond - I can't really understand what you are typing. Try using your fingers rather smashing head into keyboard. Yes Vertonghen is one of best defenders in Europe. I suppose you think Mikel is better than Sandro too. Yawn.
CGan1
Wow, Syd, that's interesting, didn't Kane have a brace last match? Losing to 10-man Greece, ooof.....
tengboon
I think Gomes will be here at the start of the season as there has been no real hard confirmed offer for him at all. If he is here then I hope HE is our no. 1 'keeper as I still really rate him and that would free up the money we would have spent on Lloris to enable us to bring in another striker. By the way I can't see Ade being used as back up, not with the money he is on.
chrishove123
Spanish Sports website Marca Headlines news

Tottenham Hotspur is looking to sign Atlético de Madrid striker Adrián and has made him a very tempting offer: in addition to covering his €18 million release clause, the club would pay him over triple his current annual salary at Atlético. The alarm bells have started ringing at the Madrid-based club. They want to keep Adrián at all costs. On hearing of the move by the London club, Atlético contacted the player and offered to extend and improve his contract, which would obviously lead to an increase in his release clause. However, the Asturian player has not come back with the answer that they were looking for. So far he has rejected the offer by Atlético, which has been unable to match the terms proposed by Tottenham. Atlético believes that Adrián has struck an agreement with the English club – something which the player’s agents have categorically denied. What most upsets the people in the offices at the Calderón is that Adrián could go for €18 million, given that they believe his market value to be much higher
sydqcb5
Now, who is this Adrian ? Anyone .... His goal record is not that impressive so what does he add to us?
sydqcb5
Desmondadonis, another disillusioned muppet. CGan1, maybe you have a good point with respect to Sturridge, but they've got to get rid, and I don't see any other takers. Only because he could hold the line in front as well as play wide right, something that say Adam Johnson couldn't do. Options are limited, but I'd like one of our signings this summer to be English, to be honest.
tengboon
@Desmondnopenis...Why don't you go suck our big spurs cok...
dcruzer
Adrian is a right sided forward. In a 4-3-3 I guess he would be competition for Lennon. He isn't a CF. He is good but I think for that money we can do better. Plus this is Marca, Spain's version of The Sun.
CGan1
@Desmondnopenis...Pi$$ off you plastic fan mug
duckworth
Hopefully we will just throw in a bid for Cavani. Why the hell not. We can afford the fee, we can afford the wages, we are 3rd best team in best league around. Worth a try surely. Who's to say loads of other clubs will bid. The clubs that would pay his fee, Madrid don't need him, Barca won't pay and don't need him. PSG just bought Ibra. Man City getting RVP, Chavs getting Hulk. We are next best option, it is not an impossibility.
CGan1
Cgan1 if you look at my post you will see that I put the changes of management as the reason for not expecting anything better than 4thm which should be CL. These changes will mean changes in playing style, plus new players to bed in, the loss of established players and losing Modric will be a blow. Of course that can be overcome but it will take time. You can't just slot one player in for another unless you have a well developed system and players who are drilled in all aspects of playing styles. It's unrealistic to expect too much from such radical changes. progress is being planned over several seasons not just this one. Maybe in AVB's second season, with more new players as well, we will be able to contend. Anyway don't underestimate other teams, especially those who consistently do well...we have a miles better squad than Arsenal or Newcastle last season but finished behind the one and scrapped in just ahead of the other
Forever Spurs
3rd best team? Some of you are in for a real reality check on how good of a team we are. 3rd best finished 3rd best sorry to break your heart here. I'm as big of a fan as the next person but we are where we are today and without CL it is very difficult to sign top quality let alone without the ability to sign top wages. We can afford a few here and there but we will be 3rd best when we finish there...maybe this year but we are 4th best.
RagingSpur
predictions too early to tell....but to think we'll get top 4 by re-signing Ade and buying Luka light (moutinho) is wishful thinking you don't progress by downgrading your squad!...we are lacking serious firepower and I don't like the Adrian rumour FFS gylfi, Lennon or Gio can play the position better.,...we need a Higuain, Lewandowski or Damiao etc. AND a sturridge or remy or Hulk as well as Ade...we also need AVB to get the team ticking and gelling....so if we do have some money (i'm not convinced as we have yet to spend big!) let's see it...or can we stop all talk of titles and cups 'cause it just sets us all up for disappointment and ridicule....
shedboy2
You can blame HR for the collapse and all the what ifs at the end of last season but face the fact that there is no promise that AVB will ever even take us to this level. At the end of the year you finish where you deserve to be and we are 4th. City had a far better squad the year they finished 5th but they were 5th best! We were 4th...as last season we weren't 3rd even though we were better in our heads than Arsenal probably we didn't show we were at the end of the year sadly...i am fantasizing as much as anyone but AVB is a huge risk with a potential payoff...Sigurdsson could be great or he could be another Bentley...Vert could be a great player but how long till he adjusts...ect. We finished 4th with the team and the coach we had because thats how good we were and you should be happy about that because as much as you hate HR the man did something you would have only dreamed of 5 years ago...ways are parted now but don't expect the next to drastically raise our level
RagingSpur
If we are gonna be playing that 4-3-3 that most of us are expecting...... replacing the "Modric playmaker' role would be no1 on the list... with Mountinho being everyones choice of favourite to take Ratfaces place... i would also throw this guy Beñat Etxebarria into the squad... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF_bqmggbz0 .... im hoping the HUDD will be back on form this year as he was a big part of our CL season.... he looks like hes been off the pork pies... Left Winger is needed... but a winger that can play also like a striker... If Lennon could bang 15 goals a season id keep him there.. but he dont... OSCAR,REMY, HULK, ROBBEN... that type of player... STRIKER is a huge issue... we need FALCAO... .DAMAIO....... WOT IF WE OFFER LIVERPOOL ...DEFOE+20 MILLION FOR SUAREZ.............PERECT
Yidmarks
I MEANT RW
Yidmarks
RagingSpur - I always put 3rd best because we should finished there comfortably. If we had got CL then Vertonghen would have been who we would have gone for and guess what we got him. He is going to improve us massively. Lloris is looking very close, a keeper we would have gone for if came 3rd. Modric was always leaving, who is better than Moutinho that we could have realistically gotten had we had CL? Maybe HR was right about players still wanting to come despite not being in CL.
CGan1
Thinking about it does it make sense to spend c8m+ more than our previous record signing (c16.8m Luka) to replace that signing with a player that is not as good as the one leaving, a midfielder (who doesn't score) when the big money is needed for strikers (or as we need start saying forwards)...the more I think about it the more I don't want moutinho....I WANT FORWARDS!!!!!
shedboy2
Oh and AVB needs to realise the Parker and Sandro combination works on paper but not on the pitch...
shedboy2
AVB speaking portugese and Freund speaking german gives us a little advantage in tapping young south american and german prospects...
Yidmarks
...and that Bale plays best on the left and needs a kick to track back sometimes...
shedboy2
shedboy2 - Moutinho is as good as Modric. Modric won't be missed if we sign Moutinho, if we don't sign someone to replace Modric then he will be massively missed. We definitely need another striker along with Ade though. Vert will greatly improve our defence. We will have a better squad than last season. The future is bright.
CGan1
Cgan, We don't have Moutinho nor do we have Lloris nor do we have a single quality striker. Levy will never agree on a 31.5m fee for Moutinho so something magically will have to happen. I am not saying he isn't a good player just saying at the price we are being quoted we aren't going to buy him for sure. If he is going to pull the little ***** he was as Sporting to get a move to the Spurs than thats probably the only way we sign him. That being said AVB may be his 1st choice coach but I'm sure there will be competition to sign him regardless because others can offer higher wages and maybe even a higher fee. I don't care for the what ifs of last season we weren't 3rd best! We finished 4th...other teams can analyze there seasons and say we were better than that as well...it doesn't matter. We are without CL and we were 4th...AVB probably has it nice because he isn't coming into this year with extra must play games so it gives him time to settle and get the best out of this squad. I'm glad our ambition is better than 4th but when I look at our squad as of today I see only 4th. You have potential players you keep talking about as if they have proved themselves at the highest level...Sig and Vert are good at far lower levels. Its a whole new thing when you are in the PL at a team who is fighting to finish at the top because there is far more pressure than being Ajax and being the best team of the league or having 1 great season in the PL...HR was a proven coach at the PL level maybe not top caliber but from what little has been seen of AVB he is a failure...unfair to say but that is the tag and he has to prove his worth. I will be open to giving him that chance but I can't read the utter**** of blame it on HR and we are better than this blah blah blah....prove it! Ill believe it when I see it...Don't talk the man up as a god when he still hasn't proved me nothing. HR wasn't that terrible! We finished where we deserved to and its going to hurt a lot worse now if AVB fails to exceed what HR did because thats what you are saying to me...
RagingSpur
i think i could be on to something here.... we should be 'tapping up' SUAREZ from Liverpool right now... give them DEFOE + 20 MILLION.... DEFOE + 30 MILLION EVEN...... we need that PLAYMAKER...that GOALKEEPER..that STRIKER and that LEFT WINGER/STRIKER..... IT COMPLETES THE JIGSAW............SWAP MODRIC RATFACE SQUIRT FOR HIGUAN................ ............................................................................................................................................................. GK.WALKER..VERTS..KABOUL..BAE..SANDRO..MOUNTINHO..SIGGY..BALE..SUAREZ..HIGUAN...
Yidmarks
cgan1 - I don't share your opinion that Moutinho is better otherwise I'm sure Real would go for the cheaper option...he is a good player but will need time to adjust to the prem but an upgrade he isn't...vertonghen I have high hopes for but I doubt he's as good as King was last year and early part of season (although fitter I hope!)...we had Ade last year and that was a good year for him, will he get better?? we also lacked firepower last year but we are already two bodies down (Saha was not great but better than having no-one)...unless we spend and i mean spend on some forwards with goal scoring records we'll struggle...
shedboy2
shedboy2 Maybe OSF and his team just didn't have the coaching/management skills and knowhow to be able to get them to work together.
chrishove123
GK. WALKER.. VERTS.. KABOUL. .BAE.. SANDRO. .MOUNTINHO.. SIGGY. .BALE. .SUAREZ. .HIGUAN...
Yidmarks
Cgan, you just speak so far out of your @$$. With no concrete proof Moutinho is better than Modric. Vert is one of best in Europe. Sig is better than VdV. If these are all correct we should be fighting for 1st this year! We were 4th and almost 3rd but if we are now soooooooooo much better there is no reason to fight for 4th that should be a lock we should at worst be 3rd. I just don't get how you can say Moutinho is that much better...do you watch that much Porto? Or Sig...who has only had 1 good season in his career...how many times have we seen that from a player! AVB who has done nothing in the PL...ect I am hopeful of all these changes making a positive impact but you are a whole level beyond thinking we untouchable and its because of fans like you that we look like idiots every year because we come out empty handed every year. In my eyes this team will be lucky to finish in 4th but slate me as you will because I don't see much in this side that is proven to get me to 4th.
RagingSpur
i think suarez is a quality plaer bt hes a toosser to put it bluntly. dont want ppl lik him at my football club. an we need to keep defoe an sign two others. i dont think we would be able to afford to spend 20 mil plus defoe an then buy at least two other strikers.
BrooksySpurs
...and we can't take all competitions seriously if we only have Defoe and perhaps Ade....couliby looks good but he's a midget, Kane looks Ok but has an awkward gate no way can we rely on them (perhaps give them time if we're 3-0 up etc) we've had two years to sort the forward out and we're still fecking around with center mids....
shedboy2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF_bqmggbz0
Yidmarks
chrishove123- I know arry didn't do that much coaching but it seems that neither player has the passing range when in possession to offer creativity...if AVB spends the hours needed to get those two working together I fear for the rest of the team...
Raging don't get personal with Cgan he's just voicing his opinion...it's what we all do..
shedboy2
Cgan, that wasn't a personal jab...I know it sounded like it ;) I'd be far more interested to talk in person because I'm just dumbfound that our opinions are so different. You are very positive about this but I just don't see this as that great yet. I guess we will have something to talk about at the end of May in 2013...
RagingSpur
I see that Pienaar is still headed for the exit door...I thought he would fit a 433 and could cover for Bale....he'd get game time but if we sell him...that's another area needing to be addressed as townsend and rose aren't up to it imo...
shedboy2
I agree it's just opinions...time will tell who is correct...I am just trying to be realistic in mine as I don't see an immediately better squad, probably worse in fact, but I do believe that going for youth and building a philosophy of play rather than just relying on the ability to motivate players one game at a time is the correct approach
Forever Spurs
RagingSpur - I never said Sig was better than VDV. I don't think he is yet, but I believe Sig is a better back up CM than we have. I said Moutinho was as good as Modric not better, and yes I see a lot of Porto due to my job. He is a fantastic player. Ask a Porto fan who they would prefer and they would say Moutinho. However that may be the same reason why people prefer Modric as haven't seen much of alternatives. Would I swap a Modric for Moutinho + Sigurdsson. Yes as it improves our squad. Vertonghen has massively improved our defence, with signing of Ade our attack is the same so anyone we sign will improve our squad. So if we have a better squad than last season expectation will be to have more successful season. I'm not saying for a second we will win the league next season as Man City are miles ahead of us but 2nd is not unrealistic. The table obviously doesn't lie but the fact is if Capello had not left England job we would have walked 3rd.
CGan1
RagingSpur - If you say Sigurdsson has only had 1 good season in his career you are very wrong, he is very good in Reading and last season he has a slight injury. Vertonghen is one of the best in Europe because he is captain for Ajax and he is the best player in Dutch league last season. Sigurdsson has potential to be better than VDV. You need to calm down.
what_sux
Right the players and team that would have us challeging for the Title Sign Adam Johnson £10 million , Adebayor 7 million , Sturridge 7 million , Mountinho 20 million , Richards £10 million and keeper Spend £60 million Sell Modric £35 million + Maybe sell Van der Vaart £10 million Pinaneer £5 million Re-Coup £50 million Outlay £10 million Freidel,Walker,Kaboul,Vertonghen,Assou Ekotto Lennon, Sandro, Sigurdsson, Mountinho, Bale, Adebyor Subs Richards, Adam Johnson, Defoe, Parker, Sturridge, Gomes Dawson Reserves Caulker, Harry Kane, Huddlestone, Livermore, Naughton, Bentley Thoughts??
redhotspur1234
shedboy2 If AVB's reputation is anything to go by he will have them doing extra work to get that playability together.
chrishove123
Competition is what we need if Jose Mourinho says you need to have at least 2 players for every position then thats what my club needs !! We also need to be adaptable so if AVB wants to play 4-3-3 then we will but we also need to be able to change it and we can do this with the team I have laid out above as we can also play 4-5-1, 4-4-2 4-1-3-2 etc
redhotspur1234
Whatsux, Taabart was unstoppable in the Championship...its nothing compared to the PL. Cgan, my worry about the team was never depth we had plenty! Losing a class player for 2 isn't always the right step and in fact in my opinion its step back. We only lacked more quality in the first team to get us through to 1st. Our squad size was always decent until late last season where our good players got sold or loaned off! What we lacked is another Moutinho next to Modric...we used to have 2 full international squads but the only difference was they were pretty interchangeable without our level of football changing. What we really neded was the player who could be pasted into the first team and provide quality that others didn't have. Losing Modric to gain 2 isn't a step forward because Modric is only 1 man on the sheet and if we would have just added more quality around him we would be better...you dont get better by losing your best and signing 2 players who are not as good individually...this was our biggest issue in years past as we had plenty to be back ups but not enough to push for 1st team.
RagingSpur
Raging Spur Ever heard the phrase 2 minds is better than one My point being you maybe be able to mark one player but what about the other ??? One defender cannot mark 2 players !!!
redhotspur1234
redhotspur....and what in our midfield was ever the problem? Bale? Modric? VdV? Lennon? Sandro? Parker? Don't see too much weakness. So no I don't understand how losing a 40m man to gain 2 players is a step forward. Depth is far easier to find then quality. Sig could have done great for when VdV was unavailable or Moutinho...but losing Modric to gain those makes no sense and its not a step forward. Neither was something we didn't have. Modric better than Moutinho and VdV is more prolific scorer and a game winner. We needed to add Moutinho and Sig without losing Modric not gain them at the expense of the loss.
RagingSpur
Have a look at the Dear Mr Levy web site... chapter 3 of the book of daniel... brilliant stuff
Block D Spurs
SANDRO!!! How good is that cover photo on the THFC website.
thenuge
Modric has wanted to leave for over a year get over it
duckworth
Raging Yes I see you're point too a certain extent but maybe Sigurdsson is to replace VDV and Moutinho is to replace Modric !! Anyway what did you think of my Squad Above??? Does it lack quality???
redhotspur1234
RagingSpur The problem with Modders is that he wants to leave. He stayed last season probably because he was persuaded by OSF and DL that we would be in CL this season. IF we had got CL I think he would have stayed especially with the players we are now getting, but we didn't, he is off because we basically failed him so there is nothing anyone can do to change his mind. Maybe it is a good thing because he wouldn't be happy and could/would disrupt the squad and when he played wouldn't give of his best, so all in all it is probably best that he goes and we get in a couple of players who are possibly going to be better in the future. What you must remember here is that we are looking to the FUTURE and in a couple of years we WILL be there. If players of the calibre of Vert WANT to come here and others are expressing an interest without us having CL because they can see where we are going, then imagine how it will be when we are in the CL for a few years running, instead of just that one off. give it four or five seasons and we may even be winning it..............
chrishove123
Why are people being so bloody negative during one of the most exciting periods in our recent history? This is a moment to be savoured not derided. Come on get behind the WHOLE Spurs team. SAF once said that to make a team successful you have to make EVERYONE feel like they are part of the family from the tea lady and cleaners to the man at the very top. That is so true so start to get behind EVERYONE and stop all this carping on. You can whine or cheer at the end of the season but until then give them ALL the chance they deserve. This is a time of transition of footballing philosophy in our team and I for one am right behind it. Bring on the bar codes cz I can't wait.
chrishove123
chrishove123 TOO RIGHT !!!BE POSITIVE!!! THE FUTURE's Bright THE FUTURE's LILYWHITE!!! :)
redhotspur1234
Oh if we are going in for predictions. What would your serious prediction be for the verdict on JT this Friday and what would you LIKE/HOPE he gets. I reckon he will get a slap on the wrist and told naughty boy don't do it again. I HOPE he gets the book thrown at him and is fined what for him would be a very substantial amount. Not because it is JT but because he is in the public eye and kids look up to him and follow his "example" so he needs to be made an example of. Hang him out to dry so the kids will see that even their well heeled and famous heroes are not above the law, so maybe THEY will think twice about saying something like that themselves.
chrishove123
See RagingSpur THIS is the sort of positivity I am on about, that is two players who WANTED to come here because THEY SEE THE FUTURE AND IT IS GOOD. Siggy Stardust chose us because he sees EXCITING TIMES here. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/9396638/Gylfi-Sigurdsson-chose-Tottenham-ahead-of-Liverpool-because-he-sees-exciting-times-in-store-at-White-Hart-Lane.html
chrishove123
“There’s nothing wrong with Liverpool but there’s everything right about Tottenham,” said the Icelandic midfielder, who signed for £8 million, a fee that was also agreed with Liverpool. A quote from Siggy Stardust.
chrishove123
“If you look at Villas-Boas’ record at Porto, it’s unbelievable. He won the Europa League and obviously it didn’t work out at Chelsea but he’s still a fantastic manager. All of the boys in the first week in training have been very happy with him and his sessions and his ambitions. Training has been very lively and he gets involved a lot.” More from Siggy
chrishove123
RagingSpur - If Moutinho turns out to be as good as Modric for us and we gain Sigurdsson who comes in for VDV when tired scoring 6/7 match winning goals then swapping 1 player for 2 certainly is better for us. Modric and Moutinho in the same team would never work, you need a goal scoring CM and neither of these are. VDV will still be here and most likely be 1st choice. I really don't think the depth in our squad has been good enough. Sandro has been great but there were times when Lennon and VDV were out and we didnt have the option, in particular Lennon as we have no back up pacey wide player. GDS will hopefully be given more chances under AVB. Its a squad game, even more so next season going all out in 4 competitions. The squad and use of it has been the what has held us back as our starting 11 is fantastic.
CGan1
and BTW what name are people getting on their spurs shirt cos for me its a toss up between Vertonghen and Sigurdsson???? Difficult One as I am starting to love them both already and they haven't even kicked a ball yet !!! LOL ;) http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/9396638/Gylfi-Sigurdsson-chose-Tottenham-ahead-of-Liverpool-because-he-sees-exciting-times-in-store-at-White-Hart-Lane.html They both seem estastic to be at Spurs and so down to earth !!! :) The signs are ALL GOOD !! COYS!!
redhotspur1234
Anyway night !
redhotspur1234
CGan1 what did you think of my squad above!!! you may have to scroll up a bit thou its not too far up !!!
redhotspur1234
contract extensions look great, manager looks great, new signings look great, names we're in for look great, the ethos at the club is great, DL is doing great, the kits look awesome. The future is white, the future is Lilly White. Now, as I may be in the UK at the end of August, what is the best way to get tickets for the matches against West Brom and Norwich? Any and all assistance would be appreciated. COYS
peterballb
redhotspur1234 - I wouldnt sell VDV, Richards is not a signing we should make as he would want 1st team football. We have cover in Smith and Naughton. Not convinced by Adam Johnson but definitely would be good option as can play left or right. We need a keeper and Lloris will be signed i think. Can;t see Chavs selling us Sturridge as we refused to do business with Modric. Remy is alternative. I would promote Huddlestone to subs, I looks slimmer in pics and still think he massive part to play at club. Oh and Defoe will leave..........Still got a feeling we might sign a striker for over £20m.
CGan1
peterballb - Unless you are a member hope and pray. First few home games will be very difficult to get tickets too. I just got free tickets to the friendly against Stevenage :D...even though friendly so excited to see AVB's first game at healm of this mighty club.
CGan1
peterballb - I'm sure someone here might no of a way of getting tickets at highly inflated prices ;) Good luck though.
CGan1
Minimum expectation has to be European qualification through table position. I expect us to make noise in all of the cups and focus on the league. New Manager and a schedule that is likely to be much more compressed will make it difficult, but we have the players. CL qualification this season would have to be seen as step one done and any silverware or finals would be icing on the cake. 4 more signing and perhaps the expectations have to rise. Adebayor, Lloris, Affelay and Leandro and we would have to be expecting good things, especially if it's all done and dusted before the team gets back from the US. The US Tour really has to be the chance for Gio, Bentley and others to make their case. I am so excited about this coming season. COYS
peterballb
redhotspur1234 I put that link up four posts previously. LOL
chrishove123
glad to see some realistic comments, raging spurs and shedboy2. what we need are 2 new strikers. unlikely we will get lioris and moutinho is unproven in PL. where is all this big money we keep hearing about. Modric transfer will drag on for weeks. just wait an see.
topspur53
5TH place again and FA Cup winners.
alee
there is being positive and there is being realistic. think some on here get carried away somewhat.AVB is still a big gamble. but lets see what squad we end up with.
topspur53
topspur53 Modric was unproven in the PL before he came into it. I wish people would stop all this he hasn't played in the prem s**t cz that's what it is. I bet all of you including topspur53 who go on about that are going to say that about Vert soon enough because he is new to the prem. Oh but wait why haven't you yet? Maybe because he is good and so is moutinho so just drop it. EVERY signing is as big a gamble as the next regardless of where they have played previously. Who knows if anyone will fit in not just with the style of play but with the other players, psychologically, or even something as simple as being in London. At one time King was new to the 1st division and Drogba was new to the prem and they were both unproven. The list goes on and on and on just like an Ariston washing machine.
chrishove123
topspur53 - But also there is being negative. Difference between realism and pessimism. Just because someone says they believe that this first 11 could come 2nd isn't being carried away as in that persons opinion the team is good enough. Realism.
CGan1
If Modric drags on, he will be staying. He has given RM until the 17th to get it done. Chesea and ManU will have to do better than 40M and PSG may become the only option willing to pay what we will ask and Luka has no interest in going there. It will be a massive year. That said, I expect as there will be hiccoughs along the way. It's going to take time for guys to learn and accept their roles. It will take time for players to understand and accept that there are no starters and subs, just players in a system. AVB will have a great deal of stability if Adebayor signs on as our opening matches can be pretty much what we saw last year. Vertonghen will need time to get used to the pace and the physicality. Sigurdsson can just step in. Naughton and Caulker have loads of experience, so already we are fairly deep in PL experienced players. AVB has a huge step up on Ramos as this has not been a clean sweep of a club as he saw, and all indications are that most of the comings will have taken place long before the season starts. So long as all the Olympians can avoid injury, we'll be in great shape. The best addition right now would be for Modric to agree a new deal and commit to the cause. If that were to occur, we would be stronger than last season with players that I believe can execute what AVB wants, although his system will have to adapt somewhat as we really do have wingers and wing-backs that can make most defenders look pedestrian. This is still a top squad, with or without Modric. I still believe we are as good as any squad out there not funded by a Sheikh. COYS
peterballb
Quarter finals of Europa, semi-final of Fa Cup, 3rd in the league.
van der haart lane
Modric will definitely go to Madrid. PSG are buying Silva and Ibrahimovic from Milan so won't be chasing Modric at over €40m. I think we will replace Modric with Moutinho and sign Adebayor and Lloris and that will probably be it until January. We will keep Pienaar (a good 4-3-3 player) and hopefully promote Coulibaly to the first team squad as a striker. That will give us a very strong squad but I still feel we'll have an 'average' season next year as the squad learns to play the AVB way. A top 5 or 6 finish (depending on what our competitors do) will be reasonable. The season after is the one that excites me more.
SpuriousLife
Winners of Cap One Cup, Winners of FA Cup, Winners of Europa League and 1st in PL

My cup is NEVER half Empty!!!

ABV is trying to instil belief into the players that we can win all the cups, he is bringing in players to support that.

The very least we can do is share that belief!!!

ILIT IAVBIT TTID COYS!!!
YT_Boy
Bearing in mind we have only Defoe & GDS up front at the moment I think predictions are a little premature. I'll wait to see who we sign. Besides, I'm crap at predictions. Ask me next april, I might have a better idea.
bish-10
can someone confirm the players that were not at training these past days?? excluding the players that were at euro's & who are at the olympics..
FifaKing
I forgot to say I think we should really have a go for the Europa Cup thingy. The squad , including youngsters, looks good for this and we have a coach who knows what it takes to win in Europe!
Forever Spurs
Clearly we need to strengthen our goalkeeping department, but not make panic buys as we have some decent keepers...now it's the job of the coaches to get the best from them. Also we badly need two strikers. I believe JD is on his way out and we will go for Ade plus one other. It's possible that GDS will be given a look by AVB as he is, for his country, a much more versatile player than Defoe and younger
Forever Spurs
I don't think anyone is being negative....we are looking at predicting based on what we HAVE and there are some huge wholes in our squad...that doesn't mean we won't go out and buy 2 world class players and be over the moon but history tells us we just don't do that....I rember all the excitement a few years ago about which striker we were going to get as we really needed one....in the end we didn't get any of the quality names we were linked with but end up with a promising future talent who scored bundles of goal the season before...ladies and gentlemen I present Gregor Rasiak.
shedboy2
Top 5 and a cup is minimum TBH. No excuses for less with our squad now!! Like the new kit nice and simple design, but why have we gone back to white shorts at home again?? COYS
WestStandEnclosure
And whats with the Authentic Players Home shirt at £95 and the £45 home shirt?? is one a knock of from China?? lol
WestStandEnclosure
FS - if defoe goes then we need 3 forwards....if luka goes to RM we should get Alvaro Morata as a makeweight he'd fulfill the one for the future tag...
redhotspur1234 - I think your squad above would be considerably weaker than last year...Richards? where instead of walker? Johnson instead of Pienaar? pos but have you seen how much work pienaar does off the ball whilst Johnson just puts his feet up....that boy needs to pull his socks up or he'll fade away...the only one to offer us something we didn't have last year is sturridge who I don't think they will sell us and you put him on the bench! And moutinho isn't as good as Luka...Gylfi as good as VDV perhaps but not yet...
shedboy2
There’s no chance that Ade will be our only signing in the striker department. The official team page says it all. Gio & Defoe as our strikers!!?? Yeah cheers harry. Assuming that AVB plays with an attacking 3 with Ade as the target man, he definitely needs another option. If Ade (assuming we sign him) gets injured it would leave only defoe as the recognised striker on the books. No way in hell will he chance this. That is why Remy Would be perfect, can play as a wing forward or as a lone striker. AVB said it himself, he’s looking at players who can play in more than one position. Interesting when he said Vertonghen can play in a number of positions, assumes he mean CB, LB & DMF?
hudderspur
hudderspur I agree and the management know it...we just wait for ages to be linked with strikers and then this Adrian rumour surfaces...he can play in several position but is way below the quality we need....it's very deflating after Higuian, Leandro, Lewandowski, Doumbia, Llorente, Dzagoev, Oscar, sturridge, Remy are the sort we need to be considering...I assume he is talking CB, LB & DMF for Vertonghen but I can't see him having the pace for LB and as a DMF I can't imagine he can do a better job there than Parker, Sandro, Thudd or even Livermore so I hope he keeps him at CB where he can settle....we don't need another Ramos playing Bentley at RB....
shedboy2
Deal agreed with Citeh for Ade. Personal terms to be agreed (SSN)
woodyn17
Mega news about Ade joining soon...and this really excited me.....but unless we get another striker or two then i predict we will make things harder for our selves for yet another year! New man. New system. New players...but still the same holes up front. Still think we need to acquire quality in depth without so many swaps Mr Levy!!. VDV staying...and we have Sig. Great. Vert and Caulker is also great but we have lost the King! If modders goes then fine get in someone as a swap...but we need to add extra options for upfront and maybe even the wings. COYS lets get in good shape with time to spare.
SpursOne2
I predict Modric will only be out of the PL for 1 season. He will go to Madrid, will play approx half their games. Jose will leave next summer having won the League again. Chelsea will be managed by PEP for 2013/14 who will buy Modric for Chelski. We must insert a big sell on fee to Modric deal in my opinion or a can't be sold back to PL for 2 years.
Wilts Spurs
Good news on Ade but outside 1st 11 we are still very light up front. Kane and Coulibally may be ok for League Cup or Home Europa tie but we won't win either with just them as options.
Wilts Spurs
ssn spurs agree Ade fee expect to tie up deal over the weekend once personnel terms have been agreed
norwichspur
Have faith - we will see signings VERY soon (and not just Ade)

I have it on very good authority that a GK and further ST are being finalised ready for the pre-season tour.

ILIT IAVBIT TTID COYS!!!
YT_Boy
I expect the Lloris deal to be done this weekend. Modric may well end up at PSG if RM don't bid enough...he goes nowhere if the fee is not good
Forever Spurs
Ade had been expected for a few weeks...let's hope he kicks on now he's got his contract.....YT hope you're right...but if that's all then AVB is going to have to be flexible in his formations...
shedboy2
We need to follow Man City's lead in a way ha.....they are going to be deadly upfront with the 4 main boys they have. Combinations of Balotelli/RVP or even Tevez/Aguero...pretty sexy. Obviously the quality City can pull is way ahead of us at this time....but we ambition and some cash i hear.......if we can get another 1 or 2 strikers in we will be in such a better position. COYS.
SpursOne2
Forever Spurs, Lloris is pretty much a done deal, as is Modric to RM (Clubs have agreed the fee now, its down to personal terms) next week we shall see Loic Remy and Moutinho signing for us which will complete the line up (with Defoe staying also)

The only other possibility is if Reading improve their offer for Defoe then we will accept it and Get Sturridge in to replace him.

COYS!!!
YT_Boy
According to Aulas, the Lyon Presiden, there has been NO bid tabled for Lloris by u
kernowboy71
we have*
SpursOne2
chrishove- why should i drop my opinion because it does not match yours.grow up mate, just because i will hold my judgement does not make me pessimistic.usual lack on respect some of us come to expect on here.
topspur53
spot on SO2 even with ade on board we need 2 more strikers.
topspur53
YT_Boy, are u sure or it's ur wish??
FifaKing
modric was a 16mil gamble, porto are after30mil.big difference
topspur53
Desmondadonis, Who will put the ball in the onion bag for you now Drogba has gone ? Torres. Hahahaha. Midfield should be good but it is a bout goals. Also this does not include any of your Old guard that AVB was trying to change when it all went wrong. What makes you think Di Matteo will do any better with them coz he had to bring the old guard back to get results.
COYS R US
Fifaking - the chap who told me works quite high up at WHL - he told me about the sacking of HR weeks before it happened or was all around the net/fansites so I trust him. Keep the faith, this as reliable as Ledley's knees ;-)

COYS!!!
YT_Boy
YT_Boy, i see, so what day you expect lloris to be signed? any truth to falcao??
FifaKing
What YT says rings true with what I have heard. As for Moutinho we will not pay 30 mill...I expect 22-25max assuming we get 35+ mill for Modric
Forever Spurs
Lloris should be sorted and announced come Wednesday/Thursday - I have asked about Falcao but he's apparently on the watch list but nothing conctrete as yet unless other targets fail to come to fruition for whatever reason. He has said that there'll be a HUGE surprise before Next week is out! so watch this space!!!

COYS!!!
YT_Boy
topspur53 Who said ANYTHING about you changing your opinion You put a posting up and as such it is fair game to comment on. It is not disrespectful of me to reply with what I feel about your comment and voice my own feelings on the subject. If you are so precious about what you say and can't stand anyone having and expressing an opposite view because they disagree with what you say then maybe you shpuldn't post on here. I think it is YOU who needs to grow up.
chrishove123
topspur53 oh by the way if you disagree with people ie ME then why don't you put a cogent argument together backing your claims about players coming in lacking Prem experience. That is what DEBATE is about. One person says something and someone else puts forward another side/argument by dissecting what has been said by the other person. It is not being disrespectful, it is engendering full debate. You are the one being disrespectful by jumping down my throat because you can't seem to back up what you say. If I say something it isn't just a random statement I back it up with WHY I say that so others can understand why I said it and discuss the merits or otherwise of said statement.
chrishove123
YT_Boy, praying everything is true, so do you know anything about the huge surprise? is it regarding players coming in?? before next week is like sunday?
FifaKing
topspur53 - Yes mate, we are still waiting to fill holes that were there before the changes. We had Ade and Defoe, VDV last year....and got rid of Pav. We need to get in another top man to help us or we will struggle. And agree on your comments re; Modders...it is a risk to let him go...i want him to stay. I hope Levy/Andre knows what they are doing with regards to him....onwards and upwards you know. COYS.
SpursOne2
i rest my case with your first reply and you call me precious. i didn't realise terry has been found guilty yet.
topspur53
SO2- cant wait for new season, but will feel a lot happier with a couple more strikers added.
topspur53
Fifaking - Sunday as in the 22nd (so next Sunday) but he's not telling me if it's player or naming rights or buyout etc. (but he's saying it's something NO-ONE has seen coming as DL has played this one very close to his chest.) I'm doing ALL I can to find out! - News to follow!

COYS!!!
YT_Boy
YT_Boy, lol can't wait then, where is all this money coming from, i know modric's sale will cover moutinho & lloris but remy & other possible strikers coming in??
FifaKing
topspur53 No one said he was guilty if you actually take the time to read and understand what i posted PROPERLY then you will note that I asked what do you think he should get? That INCLUDES not precludes a full acquittal. We all know what he said as he has admitted saying it. What is in contention is the context in which it was said. If he is found not guilty by the court then I feel he is still in the wrong MORALLY because as I said young kids look up to him as a role model and as such saying what he said even in a non racist context is morally offensive because you will get kids copying him because "he got away with it". Maybe you are just incapable of understanding and entering meaningful debate or you are just too quick to rebuke people by jumping the gun before you have fully understood what you read. You have no case to rest with my first reply. I stated that I comment on here for others to agree or disagree with my comment so we can have a debate about it. that isn't being precious that is what a forum is for.
chrishove123
sorry 123 if guilty he should get a ban, but cant see it happening
topspur53
and then you start abuse again how ironic and sad your just as incapable.carry on with the insults if it makes you feel big.
topspur53
topspur53 What abuse? I just said MAYBE, that is not abuse that is questioning, I have not insulted you anywhere, Please read things properly and put it all together so that it is in context. Yes I agree IF found guilty he should get a ban.
chrishove123
topspur53 If you feel that I have insulted you or in any way abused you verbally then I apologise for it. Unlike JT even if I don't feel an apology is warranted I will do so if the other person feels slighted. If you feel that way then I have not meant to but you must realise that passions run deep on here and as such one has to take the rough with the smooth. At NO time since I have been a member here have i resorted to personal abuse to anyone even though I have been the recipient of some scathing personal abusers using the C word because I had the temerity to disagree and state my reasons why I did so. I have tried to do the same with yourself. Put forward my point of view with relevant and coherent support to back up my views. If that is abuse then I suppose I am guilty BUT I don't think anyone else on here would see what I have said as abusive. Sarcastic maybe and questioning your points of view to get an answer as to why you say that so I can put forward a deeper argument and so on, but abusive, NO WAY. I am very careful not to be abusive on here as we are all here for the same thing SPURS.
chrishove123
chris abuse might be a bit strong, maybe belittle, but i do agree it is daft to fall out with fellow supporter, so if i have wound you up i did not mean to.i try to keep comments short as my typing is as good as defoe's offside judgements.bloody awful. coys
topspur53
topspur53 Yeah fully agree mate. All cool and no problems here:-)
chrishove123
Raging some excellent post, agree 100%
Ossie
I predict a Last????
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