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Awesome Dawson = Captain Marvel?

With the retirement of Ledley King, Andre Villas-Boas will need a new leader, and apparently Michael Dawson could be at the top of his list of options.



What will confuse many Tottenham fans, is that they expect to see Dawson struggle to command a regular starting place over Younes Kaboul and Jan Vertonghen, but is the new role being based upon a Club captain as opposed to a team leader, which can perhaps be rotated depending on who is playing, which the overall leadership in the dressing room, training pitch and for the media, more important than who is in charge on a Saturday (or whenever) afternoon?



If we look at other viable candidates, perhaps the same applies to many of them. Scott Parker, is currently injured and could be for the first month or so of the season, and even then, he might be facing a battle to play every game, with the likes of Sandro and several others probably fighting for two, maybe three places. Perhaps if AVB looks to bring in his former player Joao Moutinho, a player who knows his game and speaks his language, literally.



Others such as William Gallas will have the same problem, and of course both he and our No14 could be out of the club, so therefore out of contention. Of the others, I see Youness Kaboul as being next in line behind Dawson and Parker, though that may chance, once Jan Vertonghen (or Moutinho) beds himself in, but would it be sensible to promote a new boy over others in what is already a happy and well oiled dressing room? Rahael Van der Vaart might fancy the job and he has captaincy experience to compare with all the other candidates, but is his medium to long term Spurs career secure and does he have the selfless character that a manager wants?



As fans we have campaigned for rotation of the squad, and therefore perhaps a playing captain isn't the vital thing it once was. Many foreign manager don't actually like the old school 'pin them up against the wall' type of leader, preferring a more cultured approach, but also to maintain that greater control themselves. Today, having a club captain is as important for media events than to wear the armband on the pitch.



In the case of Dawson, he is clean cut, intelligent, seems to have the respect and popularity in the dressing room and despite not being seen as a definite starter, he remains a well liked player with the fans. Perhaps we will see Dawson get the nod for the official functions, but then have a pecking order along the lines of (2) Parker, (3) Kaboul, (4) VdV, (5) Vertonghen and so on. To some it might seem overly complicated, but I suppose it is only a problem is there is a divided or unhappy dressing room and based on that idea alone, going for a safe and popular pair of hands, is better than anything else and though I can see real merit in looking to Parker, I can also see a call for Dawson is a sensible longer term decision...

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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Wednesday July 25 2012
Time: 2:16PM

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First and foremost we need all of the players back to asses all of their leadership qualities, like Sandro?
Spurs Allday
25/07/2012 14:21:00
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i think First choice has to be daws ;D great leader great guy
WulfSpurs
25/07/2012 14:22:00
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dammit allday... i really thought i had it...
WulfSpurs
25/07/2012 14:23:00
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Will he be allowed to toss up before the game and then take his seat on the bench?
spu 4 life
25/07/2012 14:24:00
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Milking it a bit now aren't we Ox?

Spuds-U-Like
25/07/2012 14:27:00
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Lloris is captain of France. Give it to him...or haven't we signed him yet?
bish-10
25/07/2012 14:28:00
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Shouldn't it be Captain Marvel?
bish-10
25/07/2012 14:29:00
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lol Spu, Ill be surprised if Dawson gets named Captain, as i thought Vertoghen and Kaboul would be first choice CB's, Kaboul and Dawson doesn't work.
Ossie
25/07/2012 14:31:00
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No bish, if it was, Ox would be skimmed for it & powdered with with even more milk jokes!

Spuds-U-Like
25/07/2012 14:32:00
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Daws might not even make the team ...... he is prone to losses of concentration and to belting the ball out of defence. I think he's a great club man, but I would go for Parker if he was fit and in the team. My take on this situation is to pick the eleven best players, and then decide the captain on that basis. And, since I hope AVB will practise rotation of the squad we really need at least one deputy for the post.
TommyHarmer
25/07/2012 14:32:00
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Does seem a strange choice considering where the fans are placing Michael Dawson in the CB pecking order. I would have no fear if he were the CLUB Captain but Team Captain I have issues with. Last year Ledley (how we will miss you) was Captain when playing and then the armband was shared around. My choice would have been Jan Vertongham who has vast experience being Captain of Ajax.
Andre's Crouching
25/07/2012 14:33:00
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I would be happy for Dawson to get the Captaincy he's loyal, vocal and actually cares if we win or lose. Starting CBs should be Daws and Vert until Vert feels comfortable enough to tell Kaboul what to do in defence when he's partnered with him.
As for Bassong how is he still here?!
Rapm
25/07/2012 14:34:00
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I like the list you put forward...and if Dawson can stay fit i would imagine he is well up there as a candidate for the role. But how many games will he play? When he does...sure give it to him, if its early enough in the season. But imo we really need a regular starter/key player given the band....Parker same applies.... Tough one now that King has gone..... Vert needs time to mold into the squad but he should be the man eventually. If we get a new commanding Goalie i would say him....but he needs time like Vert...and hes not even signed for us yet. Need more time to decide me thinks.....
SpursOne2
25/07/2012 14:35:00
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We surely have to pick someone who is gonna play every week. Benny it is.
micyid
25/07/2012 14:41:00
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Why have we 6 Centre Backs and only one striker still...!!!???
TopSpur13
25/07/2012 14:46:00
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I'm confused and scared now.
Jables
25/07/2012 14:56:00
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Rotation rotation rotation...Sick of hearing it... At most, our players played one or two more games than those who practice rotation... Is it a major difference? Players like Silva, evra Sagna Rooney all hardly ever get rotated barring cup games. Those teams that do rotate try to get away with weaker sides, and we Spurs would get beat if we try that. Captain should play around forty games for you.
TonyRich
25/07/2012 14:58:00
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I think people are jumping the gun a bit in assuming that Vertonghan and Kaboul will be first choice. Villas-Boas' comments show that he rates Daws highly, and appreciates his position within the club. He'd be my choice.
spursgirl_4_life
25/07/2012 15:06:00
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Parker capt, Daws vice capt. Vertonnghen and Freidel are capable captains in their absence. Kaboul not ready. The others too young or do not want it.
TonyRich
25/07/2012 15:08:00
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Spursgirl speaks true, it seemeth me that Dawson will be a fill in if Vertonghen and The Bull are injured
PERTH OZSPUR
25/07/2012 15:08:00
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What exactly is the responsibility of a club captain these days. Used to be that the captain bought the first round of pints at the pub after a match, but with the fitness coaches, etc., that function isn't allowed anymore is it? So what exactly does this fellow do these days?
Total knobhead
25/07/2012 15:10:00
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Topspur we could always find a place for him up front, good ol fashion centre forward and then just lump it to him. I hear newcastle are in for remy. We need to get a move on and get in a Strker or two before the season starts in a few weeks. Considering we lost out on CL football by a point or two, it's absolutely vital we give ourselves the best possible( a striker) chance to pick up points, starting with Newcastle. Let's hope Ade joins before the season starts.
strawboy
25/07/2012 15:10:00
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Ooops, misread that. I think Dawson, as much as I like him, might be fighting with Vertonghen for his place.
PERTH OZSPUR
25/07/2012 15:12:00
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But surely by making Dawson Cap it would mean he would be first choice CB ahead of who Vert? no, Kaboom? Surely not?? So who else would fit the mould, VDv? Possible my obvious choice would be Parker but does that mean hes not part of the regular line up for the new look AVB side?? IsmDaws not just captain for pre season???
Whitehart Lad
25/07/2012 15:23:00
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I'm literally just after submitting an article about this very subject!! lol

In my opinion, Dawson is an uninspired choice. He's been Vice captain for ages now and (discounting Defoe as he joined Pompey for a year) is our longest serving player...signing along with Huddlestone in January 2005. However, he's not a leader of men, in fact it's often been said that Dawson needs a leader playing alongside him. He's a great Centre Back certainly, quick and technically very good for a stopper and as good as anyone in the air but even then, will he start ahead of Vertonghen and Kaboul?

I can see only 3 choices. Brad Friedel, Scott Parker or Rafa Van Der Vaart. No one is more experienced than big Brad and if we fail to sign a new keeper, is the perfect choice for the 12/13 season in my book. Scotty Parker leaves every inch of himself on the pitch and even without the arm band, leads by example. He was also named England captain ealier this year. Rafa is more vocal and more experienced at the very top level than anyone in our squad, he's in an akwad position on the pitch to be captaining the side but we've seen Lampard and Gerard both do it successfully in the past.

Shouts for Vertonghen, Bale and Kaboul are too premature for me.
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 15:29:00
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Dawson is not good enough to be in the starting 11 let alone make him captain .I have enough respect fro the guy but he just doesn`t cut it however much we want him to .He is too often a liability & compared to other EPL great defenders ,he falls short in terms of overall class & talent .Great heart & spirit but he needs more than just that if you want be a top 4 player .

I love Dawson but kaboul gets my vote for captain ,with Sandro vice captain .I expect Sandro to play alot more than parker next season .
Parker looks like he`s been on the pi$$ all night & slept in a hedge .
big cockeral
25/07/2012 15:37:00
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Quick and technically very good?? Are you talking about Dawson 4real??, I do think if Dawson starts he should be captain, but Im hoping he don't start, so I guess (and I'm not keen on it) Parker would be the only real choice.
Ossie
25/07/2012 15:39:00
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can anyone shed any light on bale having the no.9 shirt? i can understand new signings having a different number in pre-season to what they will actually use until we confirm squads but surely bale would only be using 9 if its for keeps
Boom Boom Boom!
25/07/2012 15:41:00
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How people can vote Bale and Vertonghen over Scott Parker is just baffling. Even if he only has 1 or 2 top years left in him, Scott Parker has to be the stand out candidate. Hes the model professional and has age and experience to boot. Vertonghen hasnt even kicked a ball for us yet! And Bale is 22 we should let him get on with his game. It has to be Scott Parker
HuddersfieldYiddo
25/07/2012 15:42:00
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Well he had number 3 last year and he played midfield all season.....
SpursOne2
25/07/2012 15:42:00
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Friedel isn't going to be first choice this season, Parker doesn't shout he leads by example but we need words aswel, Vdv is too arrogant/selfish. Kaboul lacks concentration, Bale is too young/shouldn't be distracted from running down the wing and Vert is too new.
Rapm
25/07/2012 15:44:00
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I would have Parker but will he play as much next season? Surely its him or Sandro for the spot on the pitch??. He is commanding and has experience but i don't see him on the pitch as much as Vert.....Maybe AVB wants to see our players with the armband...on the pitch to make a full assessment as well.
SpursOne2
25/07/2012 15:45:00
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For a Centre Back Ossie, he is. He's not one of these brick wall sort of centre backs who are good at getting in the way and nothing else. Like Michael Turner for example, that boy's not a footballer...he's a security guard with football boots on. Daws is decent with the ball at his feet and has the ability to launch acurate(ish) passes the length of the field of needs be. I've also seen him chase down winger and strikers at full pelt so he's no slouch. That said though, I'm totally with you in hoping we go with Vert and Kaboul at the back.
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 15:48:00
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Rapm - so who would you prefer?
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 15:51:00
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Watch out Spurs Allday & WulfSpurs Oxfordspur is on the "1st" warpath again. Your posts will probably be deleted before the day is out.

Its OK to call someone on here a fecking (unt & give them dogs abuse on a personal level, but its not OK to say "1st, first," or any other derivation, should your post just happen to be at the top of the pile. The hypocrisy of this is breathtaking & we should all be angry about it.

I was accused of being over the top when I likened this censorship to the Stasi, but this proves that it was not an exaggeration. There was nothing in my post that could've be construed as mindless childishness & in fact the only childishness with today's actions is by Oxfordspur is his deletion of them. All this just to appease a couple of moaners with a sense of humour bypass who won't allow others to have a little bit of fun. Maybe its time to get another moderator, this ones getting too politically correct by allowing the minority view to over-ride that of the vast majority. That's not his job & he should remember that.
<>br>I will NOT be silenced in this way & you should ALL take note of what is happening to VS.

Spuds-U-Like
25/07/2012 15:52:00
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Luka Modric training with the under 21`s .HA HA Ratman .
They should put him with the under 12`s
big cockeral
25/07/2012 15:53:00
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My apologies for the typo's, but I'm fecking ANGRY!!!

Spuds-U-Like
25/07/2012 15:55:00
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He's not a guaranteed starter so it doesn't seem sensible to make him captain I'm afraid.
SpuriousLife
25/07/2012 15:55:00
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Kierzo -> I would prefer Dawson as captain with the starting back four to be made up of Walker, Dawson, Vert, BAE.
Rapm
25/07/2012 15:58:00
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After Vert has settled into the team I would be happy for Kaboul/Vert pairing to start with Vert taking over the captain role.
Rapm
25/07/2012 15:59:00
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Spuds just don't type first its simple or start a new game the person who posts last wins. :) cheer up bud.
Rapm
25/07/2012 16:01:00
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Dawson for cup games (when he is likely to play). VDV or Friedel for the league games. Then in a years time Vertonghen for the rest of his career ;) I heard Parker isn't vocal whilst playing so I would worry about him. He plays like a captain but needs to be vocal.
MrPaddytheyid
25/07/2012 16:09:00
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AVB will choke bad. We are doomed.
RagingSpur
25/07/2012 16:09:00
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Nice bit of encoragement there raging!! Good to see you are right behind him before we even kick the first ball!! Not related to HR are you?
woodyn17
25/07/2012 16:12:00
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RagingSpur - Ha lets hope not mate.
SpursOne2
25/07/2012 16:13:00
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We really need someone to step up and take the bull by the horns as far as Captaincy....Maybe this move will Spur others on if they think they are good enough for the job.
SpursOne2
25/07/2012 16:14:00
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I hear you're uncertainty over Vertonghen Rapm but believe me when I say, this guy is world class. I rate him so much, I would say that Dawson will be competing with Kaboul for a starting spot and Jan's name will be first on the team sheet along with Gareth Bale. The issue I have with Dawson is that even if he was a certainty to start, I have my doubts over whether or not Daws is a big enough personality to guide the 9 other players ahead of him...he's always struggled when playing alongside less experienced players.
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 16:14:00
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So you're OK with censorship then are you Rapm?

Whether its simple to avoid being deleted for it or not, thats not the point mate, its out of order to delete any of these sorts of posts whilst allowing high levels of personal abuse to go unchallenged by the site moderator. As I said, its hypocrisy, pure & simple.

Spuds-U-Like
25/07/2012 16:15:00
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How can people be calling for Sandro to be captain? Obviously he's a good laugh but he's still not the full settled article. Plenty to learn yet. I'm with you Spuds - dont let the man drag you down!
micyid
25/07/2012 16:18:00
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Everyone struggle when Bassong is on the pitch.
Rapm
25/07/2012 16:18:00
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This is true Rapm lol. However, it has always been part of Dawson's make up that he needs guidance alongside him.
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 16:20:00
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You get your jokes at me right now because I will be very right about AVB. I know its just a friendly vs LA but Bentley, Lennon on the left, and Bale on the right for long strings of the match. I mean its not that I want to take much from a friendly because thats all it is but I never expected him to do anything but fail as it is. I don't need to be thrilled with AVB! I didn't want him in the 1st place and no HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO MAKE ME RESPECT HIM. He has not done a thing to get my respect. So I don't mind trashing him and looking like a fool :) but I will say what I think.
RagingSpur
25/07/2012 16:21:00
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RagingSpur - Are you serious? You've spent the last 2 years putting us down and generally spreading your brand of deperession because of Harry Redknapp. Now he's gone, we've goone and appointed Harry's polar opposite and here you are, still not happy, complaining and putting us down...before a ball has been kicked in anger!! WTF?!!
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 16:23:00
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Vertonghen, after Howedes, is, IMO, the second best young CB we could have gotten. It's going to take time but he is a top player and I thought looked pretty good last night. COYS
peterballb
25/07/2012 16:23:00
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micyid - Totally agree re: Sandro. Top bloke, great player but completely incomprehensable when speaking!! Sandro speaking English sounds like me speak Cow...
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 16:24:00
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Just as a warning to all, peterballb will be in the capital, and hopefully at the games between August 24 and September 2. Italianyiddo, are you out there? Anyone got a pair of tickets for West Brom they can't use? COYS
peterballb
25/07/2012 16:26:00
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I think RagingSpur is Raging cos the Tampon is cemented up his crack permantantly Kierzo...
JattYid
25/07/2012 16:28:00
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I think we should just pick a random number and give it to them. Hold on a sec as I pick a number at random..... it's number 14. Now who's that?
In-spurs-ational
25/07/2012 16:29:00
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RagingSpur
Your argument about AVB will stand up if you believe that Spurs should have given the £15 million long term contract Harry Redknapp was after .
There was no middle ground ,sack him or give him a long term deal putting him on a wage par with ferguson , Mourinho & Wenger .

AVB may not have been everyones choice but he was the best option .Harry left Levy no choice .You don`t give people like harry long term deals & the club in their hands .Have you seen Portsmouth ? close to extinction .Mandaric & Harry together ruined that club ,glad he`s gone .
big cockeral
25/07/2012 16:29:00
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Spuds let it go man, we had that discussion last week.

Also it's a bit old skool saying captains needs to be vocal, King wasn't. A Captain is someone who leadsby example and has the respect of his teammates, regardless if he shouts and hollas.
Ossie
25/07/2012 16:31:00
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Talking of Portsmouth, I hear Harry is trying to "save the club" by asking Kanu to accept a lower wage
In-spurs-ational
25/07/2012 16:32:00
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Thing is, if we are going to be rotating the squad, shouldn't we be looking at two captains. If so we could give it to Daws and someone else as well.
In-spurs-ational
25/07/2012 16:33:00
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Ox - Let the 1st thing go on. It encourages users to be more active. I must admitt that numpty yiddyboy probably overdone it with the whole copy and paste a sonet bollox.
RyanHotSpur
25/07/2012 16:36:00
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In-spurs-ational - Honestly if i was AVB i would approach Modric with the captaincy. If he leaves i'd be quite tempted to give it to VDV or even Bale.
RyanHotSpur
25/07/2012 16:37:00
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"However, he's not a leader of men, in fact it's often been said that Dawson needs a leader playing alongside him." - IMO, that's complete rubbish.
spursgirl_4_life
25/07/2012 16:38:00
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KierzoSBC - Well at least we can say that Raging is consistent ha. Isn't that right RagingSpur?? - I don't like playing mystic meg.....but what the hell...... AVB be a success for Spurs, the fans and will stick it up the chavs bum.
SpursOne2
25/07/2012 16:40:00
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I didn't want AVB plain and simple. I don't think he is ready for this club and I think he is going to be a huge setback for us. I don't think he will have a Ramos flop but I do not have faith in him maintaining the HR success or as some call it lack of. I think this was a huge step back and regardless if HR wasn't the guy to take us forward I don't believe AVB is any better and a far bigger risk.
RagingSpur
25/07/2012 16:40:00
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RyanHotSpur, as a tactic for keeping him, I'd say it was a good idea. However I don't feel the other team members may approve and it may have a negative effect on the squad
In-spurs-ational
25/07/2012 16:42:00
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To late now matey....what are you going to do?
SpursOne2
25/07/2012 16:43:00
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I don't mind if AVB is successful and some seem to forget that I root for the same team as you all but I don't have to agree with everything. I will stick it to Chelsea if we find the "gem" they didn't get to keep but it's far more likely that we will get a told you so and the media will never let us loose this year.
RagingSpur
25/07/2012 16:44:00
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Absolutely BC - AVB was not my choice but I believe he's got the potential to be a very good one. The only worry I have is he fondness of the high back line and the zonal marking on set pieces but I'm happy to hope that his time at Chelsea has taught him that the English game doesnt suit those particular methods.

One of the biggest critcisms of Redknapp was his supposed tactical ineptness and lack of preperation but in Villas-Boas we have one of the real pioneers of football theory. Like Wenger and Mourinho, he's a phylosopher and work-aholic. At this moment in time, regardless of whether he was your particular first choice or not...if you were one of those campaigning for Rednapp's sacking, and RagingSpur was...you dont have the right to criticise AVB.

RagingSpur - If we're sitting with 2 points after 10 games then fair enough, beat away...but until then, keep your "HE IS THE ONE WHO HAS TO MAKE ME RESPECT HIM" nonsense to yourself.
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 16:46:00
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Ryan Modric wants to leave to win things, refused to travel on tour, surely that's no reward for Captaincy, also if he wants to leave can't see having the captain's armband is going to make him want to stay.
Ossie
25/07/2012 16:47:00
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I think we all knew your thoughts before your last post, raging. Let's hope for our club's sake that AVB is able to change your mind by having us play well. As for me, I'm optimistic at this point.
Total knobhead
25/07/2012 16:48:00
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I will not let it go Ossie. The whole nature of the 1st post changed after Oxfordspur's article on 11th July about it. I'm quite happy about that, believe it or not. We no longer get the celebratory "1st!" postings we used to get, we've had some clever ones & we now get some that at least look like proper posts. In fact Oxfordspur even praised one of them! All I did today was post "Uninspired? Well, thats a first.", on the uninspired article & it was deemed worthy of deletion by our "fair minded" moderator.

You seriously have to ask where it will end. Will we be banned for responding to other posters because our response wasn't article related? Will we be banned for going "off topic"? You might think I'm merely scaremongering, but its not beyond the realms of possibility.

Wonder how long my rant about this will be allowed to stay up?

Spuds-U-Like
25/07/2012 16:48:00
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spursgirl_4_life - You're entitled to think so but this is a long standing criticism of Dawson. In previous year we've seen Dawson struggle alongside Kaboul, Bassong, Rocha etc...it's no concidence that over the last two seasons, Dawson's best displays have come when he's had King or Gallas alongside him.
KierzoSBC
25/07/2012 16:49:00
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