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Tottenham Hotspur vs. Liverpool.

Tottenham Hotspur vs. Liverpool.

Tottenham's second serious pre season outing is highly interesting on several levels.

Two clubs that have removed experienced and arguably out-dated managers, for hoped for bright, technically astute 'Coach/Managers' who despite having career early success, will both be seen as gambles by many, and will probably both consider themselves to have plenty of work to do to build a team and playing ethos to complement their own ideas.

Two teams from the same country and league are always interesting tactical encounters, partly because they know each other so well, but are also desperate not to lose, as much as they want to win. A heavy defeat for either tonight will put instant pressure of the coming season regardless of how strong the teams actually are on the day.

Perhaps though this is more from the fans and media, and from a coaches perspective, playing a weaker side or a team that offers plenty of changes, at least makes any result appear to be all about preparation and fitness as opposed to mind games for the start of what I expect to be strong seasons for both.

Tonights staring line ups: Tottenham: Friedel; Naughton, Gallas, Kaboul, Assou-Ekotto; Jenas, Livermore; Lennon, Sigurdsson, Bale; Kane Liverpool: Jones, Enrique, Flanagan, Skrtel, Carragher, Spearing, Shelvey, Adam, Downing, Cole, Morgan.



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Saturday July 28 2012
Time: 6:57PM

Comments

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Well, Well Well!
jvd
28/07/2012 19:00:00
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Anybody have a stream yet for the game?
jvd
28/07/2012 19:01:00
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http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/132591/1/watch-liverpool-fc-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
luffy#9
28/07/2012 19:03:00
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http://www.atdhenet.tv/48577/watch-tottenham-vs-liverpool
Critical_Spur
28/07/2012 19:03:00
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Lennon hit the post! Cmon Azza, we know you can do it!
noone
28/07/2012 19:05:00
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What is with Charlie Adams?....determined to take out Bale.
Critical_Spur
28/07/2012 19:05:00
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Well, that was one boring first half of football. We started and finished the first half good, but in between Liverpool was slightly better. Bale had two good crosses and Lennon should have scored. I concur with KOSOVO_SPURS that Jenas is not good enough. Liverpool's high pressure made us pass the ball backwards. We seemed to lack the courage to make riskier passes. Charlie focking Adam tried to destroy Bale and he seems to have some problems with his angle now. Maybe he should be substituted off.
Jables
28/07/2012 19:07:00
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The games on ESPN, pretty boring and whats with the long ball tactics we look more like the spurs of the oneday ramos era
spurs4lyfe
28/07/2012 19:09:00
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Just found out I have got the time wrong. thought it kicked off at 8pm... Lucky the first half was *****e :-)
oxfordspur
28/07/2012 19:11:00
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Well miffed with Briedel constantly hoofing up field with no target man. Everytime straight to the opponents. At least Pool are playing like Swansea....simple ball from their goalie and 3 passes later they over halfway line and still have possession. Still the lads playing well and some good chances for both sides. Should be few changes for the 2nd half.
Critical_Spur
28/07/2012 19:12:00
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Out of interest guys, why did your board extend Jenas' contract?
CalculatedKalou
28/07/2012 19:15:00
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Under Ramos we won every friendly ,including a nice 5-0 thrashing of Roma .So reading too much into these games is not a good idea ,just enjoy them for what they are .
Jenas still in a Spurs shirt ? jeez wil he ever go away ?.

A New goalkeeper ,a right winger & 2 strikers a definite must .Modric set to seal £33 million transfer to madrid so a replacement for him a necessity .No cheap $hit ,has to as close to the talent of Modric as possible .
big cockeral
28/07/2012 19:17:00
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And that sweaty sock is a tw*t .
big cockeral
28/07/2012 19:19:00
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Big C. If i follow your analogy does that mean if we loose the rest of our pre season games. Will we them blitz the EPL haha heres to wishful thinking
spurs4lyfe
28/07/2012 19:24:00
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He did the same to bale last season. The guy should not be on the field.
vicspur
28/07/2012 19:25:00
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Townsend looks class! He will grow up to be new Lennon for us.
Jables
28/07/2012 19:34:00
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Big C - use Modders cash on the forward line. There is no replacement for Modric, he is unique. We can make do with Bale, Hudd, sandro, Parker, Lennon, sigurdsson in midfield.
TonyRich
28/07/2012 19:38:00
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Hudd changed the game. He can pass and I hope he stays fit this season. He makes Jenas look like a division 3 player. COYS
kosovo_spurs
28/07/2012 19:40:00
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Who needs Modric when we have Hudd! What a pass to our new CF Gallas!
Jables
28/07/2012 19:40:00
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TonyRich .Without the Modric money we should have cash to spend anyway .We`ve been selling for fun & haven`t really spent in the last 2 years .We shouldn`t be looking to go cheap on anyone now .
Quality over quantity but that comes at a price .If we`re not willing to spend it then we deserve to fail .If we don`t break our transfer fee record this summer then i`ll want to know why .Speculate to accumulate & i still believe with a few decent signings we can do Chelsea & Arsenal this year ,but not if we sit around watching everyone else & lose focus on ourselves .
big cockeral
28/07/2012 19:44:00
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At last some pace of play in the side all down to Thudd and his ability to move the ball at speed under control. At the end of the first half Bale created stuff but since then we have had no creativity, no midfield. I am afraid this is the shape of things to come with no Modric
Forever Spurs
28/07/2012 19:45:00
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Carroll coming on, I have great hope with this kid
ItalianYiddo
28/07/2012 19:45:00
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Big C, I think Siggy was the Modric replacement and I think most of us are kind of hoping for something better than that. We gave him a 60k a week which is higher than Modric currently. I think we are just waiting out for the best offer now. Also, I know its just a friendly and it may not mean all that much but its obvious in all the areas that we are weak in and that is creativity. Huddlestone can come in and do it vs weak teams but once teams close him down he is not going to be much of a threat. Realistically this is a side who is fighting for 5th and possibly could finish even lower than that. You can't assume that we don't have vdv, walker, ect because once the season starts there will be injures and other things that keep players out of games. I am really worried about this team taking major strides backward but its hard to say until the transfer window shuts and the season is over. Last season not selling Modric showed intent but now not spending money on quality and him still wanting out isnt really making me thrilled. Keep him or not it will not mean we see him at his best ever again.I just honestly want to part ways and hope to get a GK, CF, and maybe loan or Sahin wouldn't be terrible while we find a quality replacement.
RagingSpur
28/07/2012 19:54:00
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COYS lets get this transfer period started.
RagingSpur
28/07/2012 19:55:00
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Why on earth did Harry Kane take that free kick? I would have picked Vert from those on the pitch left.
Jables
28/07/2012 19:56:00
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We found Modric, Berbatov, Bale, VDV, Lennon, Carrick, BAE, Walker, Kaboul for a combined figure of around £40 million. Unfortunately our scouting system semms to have now broken down.
ItalianYiddo
28/07/2012 20:04:00
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seams
ItalianYiddo
28/07/2012 20:05:00
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That was a waste of 90 minutes. It is preseason I'll take away as much as needs to be taken away from that but there does need to be some major changes before the 1st game of the season because I didn't see to many players who can get us where we want to be.
RagingSpur
28/07/2012 20:07:00
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Can't draw any conclusions from that, but observations certainly. For me, Livermore is too much of a poser and holds us back, Jenas is still Jenas (sideways, sideways, backwards), Sigi was better than I thought but not great, and Tom Carroll must play ahead of Livermore, Jenas etc. Bentley is still the same waste of money that he always was (so far in his recovery), Gallas looked good, Naughton disappointing. No sign for me of how we might implement a high-line and overall nothing to stand out really. Obviously, I hope that Sandro, Ade and 2 others will make a significant difference but cannot judge anything at present.
Harry-Kari
28/07/2012 20:12:00
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Bassong & Bentley so poor. No determination, no focus & no ability. Carroll getting better & better. He has beefed up a bit fro his last season Europa games and he seems to win the ball well. With him in squad, I dont see the necessity of Joe Allen.
We controlled the game pretty much against almost first XI of Liverpool even without likes of Sandro, Parker, Modric, VDV, Adebayor. I guess at the moment hopig for 2 forwards to be signed along with an experienced CM.
sydqcb5
28/07/2012 20:12:00
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We definately need a creative midfielder. Hudd came on and gave us a different dimension with his passing, but he can't turn and manouver like Modric. Townsend looks just about decent enough for the EPL. I think that we may see Jenas feature for us this season, though I certainly hope that we don't see him in the first team.
Fanman
28/07/2012 20:13:00
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Big c - well true. I have always maintained that we have pots of cash to spend... But it was just a phase to say that replacing Modric is not the priority.
TonyRich
28/07/2012 20:17:00
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i'm all for abit of Jenas bashing now and then but i think it would be harsh to be critical of him today as he was playing in the Defensive midfield role and it is not like we conceded and he did win the ball back quite alot.
rated25thfc
28/07/2012 20:17:00
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Dont know what the fuss is about. We played with only 3 of our last season regulars for 45min and most of the game was played by our deadwoods & young prospects and we were better than Liverpool who almost had the first XI on park exception of Suarez. And fact is we weremuch better. Is this enough ? Iguess not. But looking at the players whoc are not available at the moment, I have to say this is decent performance in a 35 C temperature insecond preseason friendly
sydqcb5
28/07/2012 20:18:00
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AVB should be starting Carroll and not Jenas.
Fanman
28/07/2012 20:18:00
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AVB should be starting Carroll and not Jenas.
Fanman
28/07/2012 20:18:00
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Raging, by all accounts, Pienaar is done. Ade will be done within the next week. There is absolutely nothing about him going anywhere else. He wants to come. Spurs want him. The fee has been agreed. City just have to pay him to go. Otherwise he stays on their payroll til January at a cost of a further 3.5M and he walks. I do believe we're after Joe Allen.

Third preseason game. Sigurdsson has looked good in all three. Our backside pressure is much better than last season. The pitch today was very slow and with humidity the temperature was about 100, so you can't expect tons. Kane is not yet ready for prime time and that's our preseason striker. Swap him out for Adebayor and it's a huge step up. No VDV, Parker or Sandro. That's a huge drop in quality in the middle that will all be in the squad. Jenas, as ever, when playing deep, is useless. Bentley walking around looks like he couldn't give a toss. I expect neither to be in the starting 25. Townsend has still not figured out that you just can't try to nutmeg every player. Bale was ok, but the talent is there. Same for Lennon and Sigurdsson. Naughton, Walker, Kaboul, BAE, Vertonghen all look solid. I'm not that worried. We need a couple of strikers (I would argue three as I fail to see how Defoe will ever work in a ball-moving system), a Modric replacement, a wide player of top class (Remy - two birds one stone) and a keeper. Friedel still stays too deep for me and stops any counter-attack. Still three weeks. I expect most to be done after Spurs leave the US. Bentley/Jenas/Townsend/Kane/Bassong will all get one more chance. I expect all 5, along with Gio to be off permanently, or on loan. Livermore will be around until Parker is back. My 2 cents. COYS
peterballb
28/07/2012 20:19:00
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This was the first game I saw under AVB and if I should jugde our tactics and players from just one game this would be my verdict. First the NEGATIVES: our defence high line looks like a major disaster! I hope AVB will change it. He should go for the same tactics we had last season with some tweaks of his own. Attacking wise a worrying fact against Liverpool was that we had zero chances to score after Bale left the pitch. A few transfer mr. Levy, please! Jenas is no good, sell him. Bentley should be sold if anyone is stupid enough to buy him. Kane is not ready for this level, loan him. Then the POSITIVES: Naughton looks like he can fill in for Walker and BAE. He started as a right back and moved to the left when BAE was substituted off. Townsend definitely has some promise in him! He could be our future new Lennon. Huddlestone can pass! Our midfield was much better when Hudd came in. Verts looks class even though he had only 15 minutes of playtime. I saw too little of Carroll to say anything of him.
Jables
28/07/2012 20:19:00
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Conclusions JJ as to go he s not good enough - when he came off at 80min I didn't realise he was still on the pitch - average going to be any use

Bentley - as to go did nothing to show ushe is good enough.

Kane tried his best but just didn't seem much of a threat isn't ready for a top four side - we need at least 2 strikers.
Gif showe some good composure but he will not do Modric job not sure where he wil fit into the first 11.

Livermore average he will be behind th other cm's under AVB.

Townsend showed some good runs but not convinced he s good enough yet.

Bassong - times up of he needs to go.

Positives- Hudd looked good. Dawson was good doing what he does best. Young Carroll is the lad I believe is gifted and good enough now to join our first team squad.

We didn't seem to have a style and players didn't seem to blend and we didn't tick like we do with Modric - if we don't replace Modric and use what we have then we need something special up front better than Ade to get us the goals because we will not have so much possession without Modric so we need to compensate up front by being to rely on a striker that will get us out of trouble and one that will scare the opposition.

WE look like WIP (work n progress) and lacked that 'special' quality - don't kid yourself Modric is a class above these players.
thfan
28/07/2012 20:20:00
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RagingSpur, I agree and disagree...the players were there mostly, just not playing at the same time. For one thing I think it shows if we're gonna play a 4-2-3-1 one of the back 2 midfield needs to have a decent range of passing to link the play. Thudd showed he can do a decent job at doing that but if Sahin is available to loan as part of the Modric deal he'd be even more ideal. Even though neither were playing I think we'd struggle to keep possession with Sandro and Parker together there making the high line massively exposed. Townsend looks like he's ready to deputise on the wings when needed which is a definite positive. It's a shame Kane isn't ready to step up though. Still has time on his side but I've seen nothing so far to suggest he has the instinct or skill to be in the right place at the right time to be a good striker, and in tonights game that obviously had a big impact on how the players behind him were able to perform.
flipper
28/07/2012 20:21:00
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rated25thfc, I didn't notice Jenas winning the ball back, but I do remember Skertel running straight through our midfield. I think that Jenas will be good for the cup competitions and the europa league, but do you want to see him in the EPL starting XI?
Fanman
28/07/2012 20:22:00
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sorry for the bold
thfan
28/07/2012 20:23:00
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Ive sorted it now lol
thfan
28/07/2012 20:24:00
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sydqcb5, pre season is supposed to be for the 1st team, to get them prepared for the start of the season. Its always a concern when its being wasted on deadwood and prospects.
Guyver
28/07/2012 20:24:00
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spu 4 life
28/07/2012 20:27:00
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Guyver, its not wasted.Deadwoods are being played out of necessity when you have International competitions like Olympics & Euros ahead of preseason friendlies!
sydqcb5
28/07/2012 20:30:00
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Thanks spu 4 life
thfan
28/07/2012 20:31:00
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JENAS will be excellent in cup games, YEAH FOR SOMEBODY ELSE, we know his shi7, AVB is yet to find that part out.
spu 4 life
28/07/2012 20:32:00
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So its wasted then sydqcb5, even if the reasons are valid, its still a semi wasted pre season. Scary thing is, the only major player I can think of effected by international comp is Sandro. What we are seeing out there is currently 100% Spurs minus Sandro.
Guyver
28/07/2012 20:34:00
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I keep condoms and a BASEBALL BAT next to my bed, the police told me it's a dangerous weapon, i said ''I know'' but what about the baseball bat?
spu 4 life
28/07/2012 20:38:00
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syd, exactly. AVB is letting Jenas, Bassong, Bentley and others determine if they have what it takes. I believe, subject to parties coming in who are obvious upgrades (ie Lloris or Cesar), our squad will be: Cudicini, Friedel, Gomes, Walker, Naughton, Caulker, Kaboul, Dawson, Gallas, Vertonghen, BAE, Fryers, Hudd, Parker, Sandro, Bale, Rose, Lennon, Sigurdsson, VDV, Defoe. Everyone else is vying for the remaining 5 or six spots. Any quality additions will merely fill those spaces. Short of a sign of life, Bassong and Jenas will be sold. Bentley will likely be a subsidized loan. The first task for AVB is to pare the squad down. I'd rather keep Carroll, Townsend and Smith than watch Jenas, Bentley and Bassong. If I'm honest, I am very disappointed in Bassong. I really thought he'd come good. To be fair, he's neither a LB or a LW, but Rose has done way better playing out of position. COYS
peterballb
28/07/2012 20:43:00
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Peter, I still can't see any future what so ever for Bassong, Jenas, Bentley and Gio at Spurs, I can't think of any reason to keep them; and reading over your squad makes even more sense, but your right, as others are, he has to make his own judgement. We really need to get that cheque book working again and very soon. Will this Modric saga get put to bed? Pienaar looks almost set for everton, this surely paves the way for Ade?
spu 4 life
28/07/2012 20:55:00
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Guyver, they are just working on conditioning. We haven't yet seen even an approximate starting XI. I'd love to see our MF with Sandro in front of the back 4 with Sigurdsson and VDV on top of them, Bale and Lennon out wide and Adebayor up top. Sandro is a beast. 2 ball moving players to launch the attack. pace out wide and a striker who can play football, use his head and who can create. I think we are much better looking than some are giving credit. Guys aren't yet fit, it's brutally hot and fringe players are getting their last chances. I really don't see it as a waste of time. I'm sure August 9, we'll see the starting XI AVB intends to start against Newcastle. If Jenas, Bentley, Bassong, Pienaar and Modric are all gone, Ade and another striker signed and another winger in, I'll be very happy with this window. If that winger is Remy, I'd be ecstatic. If Moutinho or Allen are in to replace Modric, even happier. It's neither Bleak House, nor Hard Times. Great Expectations perhaps and we'll pip them all in to the CL. COYS
peterballb
28/07/2012 20:56:00
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This is a Spurs team which has average written all it.
MrSpurs
28/07/2012 21:03:00
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I want to see Hudd playing with main XIstarters. He is playing with likes of Bentley Jenas, Livermore & Bassong and there is no way we can see how good is afterinjury come back.Hopefully he starts against Redbullls part of our strongest preseason XI.
sydqcb5
28/07/2012 21:05:00
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We need a play maker, someone who has the techincal ability to hold the ball like Modric who can make the killer pass but alos relieve the pressure om the defense by keeping the ball.
MrSpurs
28/07/2012 21:05:00
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Spu 4, the fact is there has been a lot of damage with players being frozen out of this team. I think, AVB's approach is a bit of damage control which conveniently fits in with the Euros and the Olympics. Fact is, VDV and a few others are not ready to be putting in 90 minutes and we have squad players at the Olympics. Perfect scenario to allow assets to prove themselves or to be realized. I don't believe as Bassong was ever in AVB's plans. Why sign Vertonghen otherwise? Same goes for Bentley and Gio. Why sign Sigurdsson? Pienaar, I believe could have been a great asset in this system but I believe his mind was made up. Same for Modric. Levy knows all this as does AVB. For the first time in 4 years, I believe there is a concrete plan. I believe the squad will be pared down and I believe players like Caulker, Naughton, Vertonghen, Fryers, Sigurdsson are replacing what we all call dead wood, all of which will finally be moved out. The free picks, Carroll, Fryers and others will see action, but we'll have a squad of 25 that AVB intends to use. I am absolutely optimistic about the future of Spurs. There will be bumps. There will be guys that don't get it. I believe AVB will move them on and will put together a squad that can play a style of football we'll all love. Bale, Lennon, VDV, Sigurdsson, Ade can all score goals and create. There's my front five. Supplement them with players like Remy and Perisic and it's awesome. Add a clinical striker with strength and pace (Rossi) and it could be the beginning of something awesome. Our defence is much more competent and mobile than what Chelsea had/have. We'll be just fine. COYS
peterballb
28/07/2012 21:09:00
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Hudd is too slow & can`t defend,he doesn`t tick enough boxes to be a top top player in his position . But he can pass ? not enough .
He`s similar to Alonso in passing but Alonso is far superior in every other way except hairstyles .
big cockeral
28/07/2012 21:12:00
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peterballb - "I am absolutely optimistic about the future of Spurs" Whilst your optimism is great it is completely unfounded.
MrSpurs
28/07/2012 21:18:00
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Mr. Spurs, I see nothing average in a starting XI comprised of Friedel/Gomes, Walker/Naughton, 2 of Kaboul, Caulker, Vertonghen, Gallas, Dawson, BAE/Naughton, Sandro/Parker, 4 of Hudd. Sigurdsson, Bale, Lennon, VDV, and Ade. True, no Modric, but I believe we are as good or better everywhere else with a few more players still to come in. Fourth last season. Chelsea's defence still sucks and Lampard and Terry are still older. Liverpool haven't added enough to make a difference, and Gerrard is still older. If Arsenal lose Van Perie, they are not better off. ManU? I don't think so. City can still only field eleven at a time. I really don't understand the negativity. Look at Liverpool's first 5 games. They could be 0-5. If we are healthy when we go in to Newcastle, I believe we have the players to go 5-0 to start. It'll be a tough game. I still believe we have the players to win it. Modric is a big loss. He is but one player who doesn't want to be here any more. We'll be fine. COYS
peterballb
28/07/2012 21:20:00
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big cockeral - spot on mate - Hudd is squad player - at best! there is actually more of an arguement that Jenas should be considered ahead of him.
MrSpurs
28/07/2012 21:20:00
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big c, well if he can be slow but pass like Pirlo from half line, he is good enough for me. Hudd needs minutes under his belt. Offseason - we got to give it to him he has lost weight; infact the first time I am seeing this light weight.
sydqcb5
28/07/2012 21:23:00
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Jenas better than Hudd. He's faster, I'll give you that. That's about all he's better at. Hudd and Modric played pretty good side by side as I recall to get us 4th. Hudd is plenty quick enough and the composure of today's game changed as soon as he came on. Night and day. COYS
peterballb
28/07/2012 21:24:00
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Total waste of time. Like holding a woodbine up in the Albert Hall.
tophobunty
28/07/2012 21:30:00
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peterballb - Its ironic that you use Chelsea as one of your examples as to where we are as it is our current manager that has given us hope that we can we overtake them by pratically taking them down single handed.
MrSpurs
28/07/2012 21:30:00
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Peterballb, I'd love to hear your opinion on our GK, though I'm quite sure where you stand i.e. Gomes over Friedel. Need for a new one, or can wait til next season? I would def have Gomes start this year, and next season Cudicini and Friedel shift out with two new prodeges shifting in.
tengboon
28/07/2012 21:30:00
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Mr. Spurs, where exactly have all of the other clubs around us improved? I don't see it. We have replaced an aging and ailing King with Vertonghen. One of the best young left-sided CB's in the game. He's not Ledley King at his prome, but then King hasn't been that for some time. Nelsen replaced by Caulker. Huge upgrade. Pienaar/Kranjcar/Bentley replaced by Sigurdsson. Again, huge upgrade as the lad can play. BAE is still one of the best LB's in the EPL. Bale is still the best LW in the world. Lennon is still one of the best RW in the EPL and Walker is one of the best RB's out there with cover on both sides by Naughton, a player I rate better than Walker. VDV is still a top footballer and Ade, assuming he signs, wants to be here and produced pretty decent numbers while squandering tons of chances. A few good additions, some tactics and execution on set pieces and who knows, maybe we'll win all those games we should have over the past four years but didn't because we could not break teams down. This is a very good young team. Add Remy, Lloris, Allen and Ba and we'll be pretty well off, IMO. COYS
peterballb
28/07/2012 21:32:00
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Why oh why did we not move for Hoillett on a free?? AVB must not rate him, let's see if he's a regular starter at QPR
tengboon
28/07/2012 21:33:00
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sydqcb5 - Hudd compared to Pirlo is not great comparison because of the speed and pressure of the Premier League compared to the Euros. Pirlo would not make such a impact in the PL - he would not be given the time.
MrSpurs
28/07/2012 21:36:00
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Pretty shocking that a third of us think Kaboul as our captain. My vote was for Vertongen, leaving Parker out due to injury, which I reckon will be the case all year
tengboon
28/07/2012 21:37:00
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All very well saying Modric is only one player but he's worth four of the others. He made spurs tick and he's absence was clearly visible in these pre season games. He is irreplaceable.
Hot_Spur
28/07/2012 21:38:00
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tengboon, I am not a fan of Friedel at all. He never gets to aything difficult and, as was seen again today, never comes off his line. Yes, Gomes goes on adventures and one wonders what the heck he is doing but he sets a counter attack off like no other, he makes saves few can make, has gone the wrong way, by my count, on a penalty twice, and saves way more than most. Friedel has not saved a penalty in at least 3 years (could be more but the stats I can find only go back that far). We need a new keeper because Cudicini is nowhere near good enough. He's past it. None of our keepers are good enough for the system AVB wants to play. You really need a sweeper. Vorm, though small for my liking, may well be ideal. He is a good shot-stopper with excellent anticipation. Of the three we have, Gomes would be my starter. If we can get Lloris, that would be great. I'd still rather we stump the cash and buy Loach, sell Friedel, buy Butland, loan him back and then sell Gomes in January or next summer as he plans to go back to Brasil when his contract is up. Should have treated Pletikosa better. He is a very good keeper as he again showed in the Euros. Couple of top drawer saves. COYS
peterballb
28/07/2012 21:40:00
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peterballb - again I love your optimism but for all the names you mention (some of which are not even Spurs players) I have serious doubts over AVB tactics - do you not share my fear at seeing Dawson play a high line!!!!! - a AVB tactic which he loves but does not suit the PL.
MrSpurs
28/07/2012 21:41:00
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Apart from my Canadian bias, I would take Hoillett. He is better than I ever expect Townsend to be. That said, I'd still be after Affelay and Remy long before that. COYS
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28/07/2012 21:42:00
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