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Tottenham Hotspur vs. New York Red Bulls

Hopefully we will see a fitter and more cohesive Tottenham tonight (or it it morning?) in the clubs final game in the USA.

As I have mentioned previously, the performances are secondary at this stage of the teams preparation, but you hope that game upon game, the players look sharper and they gain a greater insight into the new managers tactics, but as is usually the case the side will be hampered by injuries and absentees, which makes preparation all the harder and progress difficult to measure.

At this stage, I assume that Jermain Defoe will still be unavailable, which though offers another opportunity fot Harry Kane. I still question whether he will stay or go on loan, in the next few weeks. But however well he may do, it is clearly a problem to again have to prepare without an established striker.

The same applies to the likes of Sandro, Giovani, Caulker and Rose, whilst injury to Parker going into the start of the season may be opportunities to impress or salvage Spurs careers for some, but frustratingly is hampers the impact that AVB can have, and you can imagine all of those players either being key figures or having an opportunity to prove their quality.

New York Red Bulls are currently top of the MLS Eastern Conference and have a few familier names of note, with Thierry Henry, Tim Cahill, who has just signed from Everton and a certain Teemu Taino (though perhaps he will be injured). With a game on Friday, NYRB's have already stated that this will be a game filled with Substitutions and the majority of players will play no more than 45 minutes, and to a degree I expect Spurs to do much the same.

At least this being shown at midnight (GMT) we can at least attempt to watch the game and be fit for work the next day, and as much as I understand the need for players to gain form and fitness over an outstanding performance, it would be nice to see something to get excited about for my loss of sleep...




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Date:Tuesday July 31 2012

Time: 6:13PM

Your Comments

The hard bit is staying up that late when you get up early.... i now have sympathy for spurs guys in OZ NZ Brazil etc
Big Ron
I notice we sold Pienaar. What happened to all the total rubbish I had to read on here for months about how he was stuck with us, unable to shift his high wages etc etc. Give the crystal ball a slap next time, might save us all some conjecture that was frankly tiring.
Crissybwoy
These matches are all about player fitness and squad cohesion. The team that kicks off at St James's will be very different from anything seen so far- so relax and enjoy the girls beach volleyball.
Love totty
Is ade still in NY be good to unvail he before the game and stick a shirt straight on his back, I really hope Carroll and thudd get the nod ahead of Livermore and jenass, also I think kane will have a better game tonight it will be a lot cooler and weaker opposition for him to bed in. COYS L
Tottingham10
Not sure whether he recovered from the training ground injury, but would love to see Gomes start in this. Don't care too much about the back four but would love to see Thudd, Caroll and Siggy start in midfield. Would also be good to give Lennon another run out so he can start hitting form and fitness.
muttley
For those worried about the time of the fixture it is my belief that the game will be aired in full tomorrow tea time on ESPN. It is my wish that Coulibaly gets a run out but i feel i may be disappointed..Kane is top of the pile of prospects and he will get the majority of the 90 to prove this is an accolade he deserves. We may also see Siggy played in the forward line but most probably not. Carroll to get more minutes again tonight and Livermore and Andros too.. COYS
andyraa
Hopefully tonight we'll be able to say an emotional farewell to Jenas and Bentley as they play their last game for the club.
Spurs Allday
on a lighter note how about this for a song for siggy! who remembers Ebeneezer Goode by the Shamen?? right so thats everybody who was subjected to in their youth or worse whilst out getting nutted in a lousy nightclub. So altogether now: Sigurdsson Sigurdsson whoooaaaaah He's Gylffi Sigurdsson!!!!!!! Sigurdsson Sigurdsson whoooaaaaah He's Gylffi Sigurdsson!!!!!!! Lets face it i'm wasted in my day job! As you were...COYS
andyraa
Andyraa unfortunately coulibaly has not travelled to the states so don't think we will be seeing him, great prospect though
Tottingham10
yes thought as much Tottingham 10 but i had heard a few shuffles suggesting that as Defoe was heading home he may be drafted into the squad.. Steffen Freund rates the guy EXTREMELY highly and though that mnay count for little i did a little sex wee at the thought of us having him up for selection! COYS
andyraa
It is beyond me why he was never taken out there in the first place especially as we only went with 2 strikers, maybe AVB admires him but knows he is not quite ready.
Tottingham10
Coulibaly...give him a go please!
jacobslad
What about Siggy up front at some stage?
zombie-greavsie
No doubt our ol' buddy Henry will score tonight! He seems to have a knack even when it's the Bulls.
zombie-greavsie
If Gomes is fit then he has to play the full 90. The other two keepers have had a game each so if Gomes doesn't play he's either not fit or going out the door
In-spurs-ational
Went to the training yesterday - I believe Gomes will play - he trained same routine as other keepers and to me looked the best. I will also take all credibility away from my judgement by saying Bentley worked as hard as any other player and seemed to have some of his old skill, hopefully he gets a proper run out as well. VDV and Bale only did light training so the most I expect them to have is a short run out. I would expect the back 4 that start will be what is expected for Newcastle so they get some more practice together lets see how wrong I am later........
NYCspur
Looks like I'm in for a long night. It's 2pm in Finland when the game starts. I hope Carroll gets to start, I really want to get a better look at him. Interesting to see Teemu Tainio playing again. He was a decent player for Finland in his prime.
Jables
Here's what i'd field: Gomes; Walker, Kaboul, Vertonghen, BAE; Lennon, Carroll, Livermore, Townsend; Sigg, Bale.
dcruzer
Later Bentley in for Townsend, VDV in for Sigg, Naughton in for Walker, Hudd in for Livermore, Smith in for BAE. MAY Bassong, Kane, & Jenas never play in our first XI again.
dcruzer
I have major doubts over AVB hopefully he will prove me wrong. Pre season doesnt usually bother me but this one will be interesting the closer we get to the start of the season.
MrSpurs
I hope our best 11 of squad that flew out to the States get the most minutes. As we get closer to the start of the season, I expect slowly and surely we will start seeing a familiar line-up. Most of all, I seriously hope that ALL the players are able to come through this game injury-free...don't want any of the key players missing the start of the season.
Critical_Spur
MrSpurs, that's all fair enough. If we go in to the start of the season with either Gomes or Friedel, Walker, Kaboul, Vertonghen, BAE, Sandro, VDV, Sigurdsson, Bale, Lennon, Adebayor and have Hudd, another striker, Naughton, Gallas, another winger on the bench with the non-starting keeper, i won't be too worried. That starting XI, even without a Modric replacement is pretty talented. With some execution of free kicks and corners and some defensive cohesion, I think we'll be ok and would have a great opportunity to get off at a gallop to the season. AVB was not in my top 5. That said, he is a proper manager and coach and has proven, albeit in another league, that he is able to focus on 4 competitions and succeed. He did the same last year, even if he did not get to finish the job. DiMatteo continued what he had begun in the cups and was just as successful in the league using the older players. My money is on DiMatteo getting the sack long before AVB. COYS
peterballb
To quote Harry, Bassong, Bentley and Jenas all find themselves in the last chance saloon. COYS
peterballb
Just got my free three month espn deal with sky. Ready for tonight's game - not convinced it will be worth watching, however, agree, would be nice to see couilibally.
Windlespur
id like to see Coulibaly get 60minutes with Siggy or VDV playing just behind him... i got a good feeling about the kid... seen his youth perfomances and he isent shy to have a crack at goal...
Yidmarks
Windle - I got ESPN free like a year ago and have had it ever since. It's not bad. NBA can be quality. MLB is terrible tv.
TopSpur13
dcruzer.. with u on never seeing Jenas, Basson and Kane in the team again... add bentley to the list while ur there...
Yidmarks
As for the match tonight, It can't be any worse than the last one.
TopSpur13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibu2pA8xh6g ........... the 2nd good thing bentley ever did after the goal against the scum...
Yidmarks
I hope Carroll gets a good amount of game-time, lets see if he can step-up!
Fanman
#thfc XI: Gomes, Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Assou-Ekotto, Huddlestone, Livermore, Bentley, Sigurdsson, Lennon, Bale.
what_sux
@watsux.....u sure mate...no strikers?....are we spain
rovinella62spurs
4-6-0. Here we go
what_sux
rovinella62spurs - It's on twitter mate, have fun watching guys, while I'm preparing to go for work :(
what_sux
rovinella62spurs if it means we win as much as them, then yes i could accept us playing like Spain
Slurms McKenzie
Is Bentley in the centre and Siggy up front?
zombie-greavsie
Is Bale the false no.9?
TopSpur13
Do i stay up? Definitely for at least a half....am more interested in seeing some cohesion at the back..maybe someone like Tom Carroll getting some good minutes...and The Hudd building on his fitness.
N9SPURS
Hope the high line holds tonight.
zombie-greavsie
Bale's a striker! ....might as well be, all we need now is two speedy wingers...Raheem Sterling and Atsu.
dcruzer
A US tour is the 21st century version of cross country preseason running, means nothing come Newcastle but much better for the bank balance.

COYS

T.H.F.Chris
That was lucky not been online all day, didn't realize it was at 12am (Happy Days) Looking forward to this :)
mark84uk
4-6-0!
Fanman
Got a good feed here lads if you have any probs with one you might be using! http://www.nutjob.eu/ COYS
GlennAmy
Wow Bale up top.
asherthesmasher
http://www.vipbox.tv/watch/59879/1/new-york-red-bulls-vs-tottenham-hotspur--live-stream-online.html
Total knobhead
Bale at center forward tonight?
Total knobhead
Looks like bale may play striker in the coming season! At this minute he is the main man for the job.hope we get a striker or two thwo.
bazdog
4231. bale at CF. Gomes GK.
Total knobhead
Good to see Gomez get a game...
GlennAmy
Guys, if Bale scores a hat-trick tonight there will be no new striker signings. ;)
Jables
Also believe bale would do a good or fantastic job there but we would miss him from his more roaming position.
bazdog
Delighted to see gomez but have to say im excited about bale in this position
TallaghtSpurs
i'm about 4 mins in - bentley loking poor. BAE looks like he's not getting support.
Slurms McKenzie
would like to ee Bale get a touch
asherthesmasher
actually bale is playing left fullback, but in an extremely high line. nyuk nyuk
Total knobhead
Janny Janny Janny...
TopSpur13
come on gomes. save the PK and stake a claim to the job
Total knobhead
Ah might head to bed lads...
TopSpur13
That was a soft one, Verts has got pace though. Oh and we're playing $hit.
Fanman
it was a penalty and far to easy
asherthesmasher
terrible defending, i think this might happen a few times over the season with this high line
TallaghtSpurs
ooops...
GlennAmy
@watsup and slurms....agree mates.....verts just done a suicide..lol.....0-1
rovinella62spurs
sell the fecking belgian. (just kidding, but that was terrible)
Total knobhead
Sack AVB! Levy should sign us better CBs! Nah, that was one joke of a penalty call.
Jables
high defensive line punished with a simple ball over the top. red card for vert if that was EPL?
Slurms McKenzie
the defence needs to sort that line out fast
asherthesmasher
Can Tim Cahill make NY Red Bulls the "Beast of the East" haha yanks!
TopSpur13
are you guys listening to a feed with the Yank announcers? Ouch.
Total knobhead
gurds or Bale ?
asherthesmasher
nice try bale
Total knobhead
great tackle by Hudd, good effort by Bale from resulting free kick
Slurms McKenzie
So bentley doesn't get a look in at set pieces then....?
TopSpur13
Why would Bently get a look in?
asherthesmasher
Huddle - stone? sig-gordeson?
Slurms McKenzie
Teemu Tainio the legend. I love this! As one comment says the best time wasting ever! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wf5yuE7G38&feature=youtu.be
TopSpur13
Bentley is a terrific set piece taker. Ya he's useless but if you're gonna play him ya might as well let him have a go at what he's good at.
TopSpur13
BAE is all over the park, Walker has been poor. Hudd playing a storm great effort as he chased down interception.
Slurms McKenzie
Commentators cause as hudd gives ball away from free kick... Bentley has offered nothing BAE from left back has passed him on every attack.
Slurms McKenzie
Y the ***** is bale wearing the number 9 shirt what is going on at spurs can't really see us bringing anyone else in and I'm getting fed up with this crap so levy and avb get your backsides in to gear
rockerty rock8
Ah great to see the old Dawson raking pass...fly off the head of the opposite right back!
Slurms McKenzie
what's up with walker so far?
Total knobhead
not when you have a set piece expert in Siggi and Bale there to take them on the right side of the penalty area.
asherthesmasher
2 matches and 20 mins in and if anyone thought we wouldnt miss Modric its fairly evident., Ball is like a hot coal 100miles per hour, poor ball retention particularly CM. Obviously its a friendly but the likes of Livermore need to do far better when teams press high. Said previously about Bale playing central more this season, interesting to see how that pans out.
gatch75
*curse
Slurms McKenzie
That designated player salary cap thing is a fantastic idea.
TopSpur13
all that excitement in the voice of the announcer, and then "way wide."
Total knobhead
moutinho in, please
Total knobhead
great move down the left...feckin' bentley look up before you hoof it!!!
Slurms McKenzie
Sig took two terrible corners than Bentley took the next and planted it on Bales head who went close. Bentley can do a hell of a lot with a dead ball to be fair. He's been woeful in open play tho.
TopSpur13
3000 mile trip for away days! Like heading to Russia every second week!
Slurms McKenzie
i like this high pressure we is startin to look like a team playin out from the back the are bones are surely there
krafty007
nice to see daws back and back with hes long balls, no thanks pls get rid of him
123spurs
How would you "verbalise" Bentley's impact? Gotta love the yanks
Slurms McKenzie
I cringe when Americans talk abou Football, sorry, soccer.
asherthesmasher
no Bently is not anywhere near Siggi's class in set pieces. you forget when Bently did get minutes for us
asherthesmasher
so far my impression is that putting bale in the CF spot is costing us too much in terms of speed down the wings.
Total knobhead
Thats how you apologise, Adam you muppet!
Slurms McKenzie
Wow what is AVB going to say about that tackle on Cahill
papsy
and no one is stepping up to take control of the middle as mofo did. need to bring someone in to take that role. moutinho?
Total knobhead
american announcers? Ouch.
Total knobhead
Agree def TKHead. Worrying how poor ball retention has been so far even though its pre season.
gatch75
Yep Bale is offering no threat, we should be destroying that short young fella at RB
Slurms McKenzie
I don't disagree thBale s playing up front but he looks a lite lost there so far. early days.
asherthesmasher
Might work better with pace out wide left, Townsend would have been a better shout to start.
Slurms McKenzie
We can't string a few passes together and we're about a few weeks from newcastle. Not looking good.
spuradic
Great clearance from Dawson out over the sideline...pity it was from our own throw-in on the other side!
Slurms McKenzie
priceless AVB squatting on the touchline!
papsy
i rarely find my attention drifting during a spurs match, but it has been in the last five minutes. not a good sign. no flow at all to how our team is playing. i'm really getting concerned about no flow in the middle.
Total knobhead
Bentley is just as good if not better than Sig at set pieces IMO. Looks like we're gonna have to just agree to disagree. Don't get me wrong when Bentley's sitting on the bench this season and Sigs Strutting his stuff on the pitch it'll be between him and bale for the dead ball and i hope he smashes plenty. Difference is Sig has a lot more to his game and it's evident from this showing so far Bentley doesn't.
TopSpur13
Doesnt matter whose wide left or up front when the CM cant string 2 passes together. Hudd should be dictating the tempo, but as it stands CM look gash. As they stop pressing youd expect and hope they both dominate more
gatch75
the announcer got that right: little to cheer so far. no pace on the wings (either wing), not control in the middle. No flow at all. however wrote it above was right. bale should be able to eat the RBull CBs for lunch, but getting little service out of our wings of MF.
Total knobhead
Our movement with the ball is pathetic. Come on COYS move!
Jables
i've always said that watching MLS is like watching paint dry, and Spurs seem to have caught the disease.
Total knobhead
Bentley is doing great!
Fanman
The best thing about that half is that Bentley wasn't compete*****
TallaghtSpurs
ye i could disagree more with you Topspur. Bently is near useless, i never wanted him in the first place. Not sure what i think of Siggi yet but one thing i do know from what i have seen last season is his right peg is mustard, not a bad lefty either.
asherthesmasher
AVB was lucky to survive that clash with Hudd!. Bentley hasn't gotten past his marker once in the game, killing us down the flank.
Slurms McKenzie
common Bale, get up!
asherthesmasher
Well, 'Huddle-stone's' no Modric.
spuradic
Ox on twitter but not the discussion forum he runs... disgraceful! :D
TopSpur13
move bale back to the left wing, send bentley to MLS where he belongs.
Total knobhead
TK-agree about the attention drifting, just spent the last 5 mins reading posts and have not heard anything remotely worth pausing to look up at the TV. Not a good sign, I know its's preseason but these guys have a new boss to impress. So far not so good.....
miamispur
Siggy's a downgrade on Kranc imo
Guyver
Because we have nothing to talk about from that half, why is the vital spurs twitter picture a dogs face?
TopSpur13
Guyver, interesting comment about Siggy. I think he's better than Niko, but we aren't getting the ball into his feet.
Fanman
Bentley turns slowly in a circle then passes sideways or backways. NY can afford to play extra man on the right side. Bale is lost upfront on his own. WTF?
Slurms McKenzie
10/3 for a Spurs win on betfair! what game have they been watching?
Slurms McKenzie
We look like p i s s and s h i t at the moment. Our defence high line gets me the chills every time the Bulls attack. What has happened to Livermore? I think he was very good last season, now he looks like deadwood.
Jables
standing thinking before each pass, no creativity. Tom trying hard maybe trying too hard. They look more threatening COYS for goodness sake
Big Ron
Ok, maybe I'm wrong about Bentley?
Fanman
Fanman, after we signed him I wrote that 2 of his weaknesses are his 1st touch/control and his ability to get into games. If you watch 1 of his best games in a Swansea shirt against us at WHL, you'd see all those weaknesses displayed despite him having a few "MOTD" moments.
Guyver
I would put a 50m value on MODRIC, because watching the first half and seeing as we can't string 2 passes together, with the so called second string and looking as sharp as a blunt pencil, we have a lot of looking to do, before the season get's under way, yes they will improve, but some will not be playing in a first x1, Dawson has never had or got a clue how to pass short, his long distance hoofs are still his only outlet in his game; OUT OF TEN TEAM PASSING 3, SHARPNESS 3, MOVEMENT 2; GOD THIS IS SO POOR.
spu 4 life
Feeling sorry for you guys back home staying up to watch this.....especially the poster from Finland, ouch!
miamispur
Need a CM to not just get the ball and pass in a pre scripted fashion, someone needs to actually draw players in and run with the ball. Doesnt have to skin people just not make it a game where if you keep your shape its easy. As it stands RB just marks LW, LB marks RW and so on. As a result Sig may as well get his deck chair. Id expect Jenas to come on with instructions to run with the ball more.
gatch75
Not writing him off yet, just havent seen anything special from him over 90mins. He's great on MOTD though.
Guyver
forwards neede urgently...apply thfc football club...asap
rovinella62spurs
Livermore has been poor, and Hudd, not much better.
Fanman
Hudd and livermore have been solid but with no outlet for the ball we have been moving it sideways or giving it away. We've had way more of the possession and as bad as we've been NY have been worse. A couple of good saves from their keeper. The only positive for the drifters in the next 45 minutes will be two different teams!
Slurms McKenzie
The team is generally good now...all we need is a playmaker! Bentley is can do better right now, but seems scared to break...WE JUST NEED A PLAYMAKER to pull the strings an compose this team. With Hudd as CM we are right now headless chickens.....BRING ON TOM CARROLL!
dcruzer
another three or four 45 minute stretches like that and I'll retract the statements of optimism I've been expressing.
Total knobhead
Guyver, we'll see how he goes.
Fanman
Hopefully Sandro can make the DMF position his own this season. We definately need a playmaker. Hudd just isn't up to it.
Fanman
OK why not just move BAE to replace Bentley and put in Naughton for LB, cause BAE has pace, flair, and vision. Bentley barely has just vision.
dcruzer
I think that some Spurs fans expectations are too high. We've been solid defensively, we're just lacking a bit offensively. Hopefully Carroll gets a half.
Fanman
Agree Guyver, said previously Sigs close control is average, def not his strength. Totally different to Rafa, Needs space to run into and good at getting on to the end of things, reminds me more of Cahill, David Platt etc with good movement but not linking. I actually think he would thrive playing with Rafa.
gatch75
Always though Benny would do great for us on our Left wing if Bale weren't available.
dcruzer
I just don't see what Livermore brings to the team.
TopSpur13
Bentley cannot play left side he isn't good enough there is no ay h will eat his man playing left side mind you not sure he would beat his man playing right side either he is just nt good enough fo us.

Bale is not good enough to play central either we mss his LW runs but we haven't any strikers

Livermore very poor not sure he will suit our new style of play and the defense don't look secure with this new style either we will get caught out in the PL think this high line may not work - I hold jugement as its early days but there is a lot of work to be done if it is to work.

Gilif hasnt settled either & Hudd is rusty.
thfan
Slurms, the fact that NY have been worse tells us nothing. They're supposed to be worse. They play soccer for God's sake. We're supposed to play football.
Total knobhead
Any chance they can be given a FREE CAN OF RED BALL EACH
spu 4 life
Can't believe I'm staying up for this! Concerned that Livemore might be using Jenas as a role model judging by the amount of times he's lost the ball or passed to invisible players! Please please learn by your past 2 seasons mistakes and sign a bloody decent striker, I love Bale on the flanks but he couldn't turn it on in the middle of the park last season so what makes AVB think he can do it now!
Italian_Spur
yeh Gatch, he's def not a like for like VDV replacement, but like Cahill and Platt, he can finish really well.
Guyver
Overly negative here, we're doing better than I expected.
Fanman
That means we're doing O.K. Unless we're 3-0 up some Spurs fans will never be happy.
Fanman
no modric, no sandro, no parker, no ade, no quality
asherthesmasher
forgot VDV
asherthesmasher
It seems we have no strikers, so we need to change to a 4-6-0. But first we need to obtain some midfield players, as we seem to have none of those either. Let's see whether AVB has done anything during the interval. At least Kane is in.
Total knobhead
State side soccer New york red bulls (balls) depends what yank says it and I thought Ossie was the only one to say Tottingham hotspurs, powered by under armer, phucking yanks
spu 4 life
This is better than Stilnox... Yawn
van der haart lane
come on your spurs. play football. beat those soccer players.
Total knobhead
Dawson, Gallas and Jenas, oh dear oh dear oh dear!
Jables
Well, Siggi won't be taking VDV's position in a hurry because VDV has more and can finish well. Siggi isa decent sub right now as far as i can see.
asherthesmasher
Sideways is coming on the one and only JJ JENAS,
spu 4 life
The bull has got his horns up our.........Sorry bunch of players we have out there talk about Modric not grabbing the game by the scruff of the neck he did that and filled all the gaps and deficiencies while others like VdV and Bale stay up the field impersonating superstars and getting waaaaay over hyped. Its going to be a bi*tch of a season !!!!!
SsSpurSs
Fanman, Have to agree its a bit negative and guilty as charged. Just concerned about the CM from what Ive seen all tour. Hopefully its just rust but my gut feel is that we will miss Modric immensely. (Even more than Alonso with Liverpool) Im firmly in the camp that thinks hes World Class.
gatch75
We make Stoke look like Barca. Terrible
van der haart lane
our passing has been terrible tonight
Total knobhead
Walker does know we're the team in blue?
Slurms McKenzie
On the bright side, by not playing especially great, the team arent masking how badly we need new players in key positions, incase that wasnt already obvious.
Guyver
great effort lennon, Was said for much of last season but Bale needs to stay wide left!!!
Slurms McKenzie
walker has been a sleep walker all night, slurms mate
Total knobhead
Walker is having a bad game alright Slurms.
TopSpur13
How the frack is Kane in! And Jenas? F@CK!!!
dcruzer
Yes bale great corner from Siggy!!!
Slurms McKenzie
Baleeeeeee! Nice corner by Sigge!
Jables
about fecking time
Total knobhead
yup aura that
krafty007
boom booooommmm....baaallee...good corner
rovinella62spurs
bale scores
van der haart lane
Happy now, the leagues ours. Ha
gatch75
2 headers hes worth 80 mil now!!!!
krafty007
Nic break away from Kane but pathetic turn in to try and beat the big swede!
Slurms McKenzie
touchdown! base hit! erm, nice headerer. nice score!
asherthesmasher
Well if this is what we have to watch this season i'm very worried. Siggy seems to be the new Defoe as in is he even on the pitch? Thud has turned into Dawson with his constant long balls which can only be described as *****e. Bentley should have been on the skills tour cause all he does is step overs and then passes back. Bale need to stop being such a diving little****. Jenas is Jenas and Vert gave away a shocking pen.

What the ***** has happened to Tottenham? Why are we so scared to actually attack a team and score a goal?! or do we just enjoy running it to their box and then turning around and starting again?
Rapm
AVB's unbeaten run looking safer. Right come on Noughton and Carrol
Slurms McKenzie
Cheer up lads, things are looking up. Our set piece conversion has improved....
ItalianYiddo
We have scored from a corner - unlike most of last season ;0)
GlennAmy
Oh and I forgot livermore has he forgotten he's a footballer?
Rapm
there's that right peg again.
asherthesmasher
Now, now Guyver I has your humble pie!
Fanman
goal!
ItalianYiddo
SWEET!
GlennAmy
nice one siggy nice one
Total knobhead
he's called the sig
norwichspur
Wooooooooo! Gylfi at his best!
Jables
Like I said Sigs world class. Haa
gatch75
Who the feck said this guy was a step down from Kranc?
Slurms McKenzie
Beauty
TopSpur13
errmmm...what was that about siggy.....goaaaallll
rovinella62spurs
woooooooooooo now we are at it wo hooooo
krafty007
The boy can hit a ball
ItalianYiddo
Beauty
TopSpur13
Great goal, He's a good finisher for sure.
Guyver
lol I said he gets the MOTD moments, thats what he's done!
Guyver
So we know Bale is not a striker but out wide we're a different team...
Slurms McKenzie
So sweet from Siggy.
Fanman
it was worth staying up late to watch that goal
Total knobhead
Worth staying up for that goal!
Slurms McKenzie
Playing with tempo at last.
gatch75
thinking alike slurms
Total knobhead
Modric who?
logos8
Hopefully though they don't think Sig is Modric's replacement. We need a moutinho type.
TopSpur13
the golden oppurtunity kisses out of the crossbar
krafty007
Kudos to you Guyver ;-)
Slurms McKenzie
And CM actually making runs rather than just sitting like 1st half.
gatch75
he just has a sweet right foot and i wouldn't say he is downgrade at all. Is he ready to fill VDV's boots. Not sure about that yet. Nice goal!
asherthesmasher
moutinho and a striker.
Total knobhead
Knobhead are you not in Brazil...? I could swear you were on about Brazil.... Surely can't be late there mate :D
TopSpur13
twenty minutes to go I'm going to call BAE for Man of the Match
Slurms McKenzie
I take it back we are actually looking good now :)
Rapm
I second that TopSpur
asherthesmasher
Anyone spot that Croatian flag behind the goal with sell Luka Modric on it? lol Pay the fecking money and we will, then we get a replacement in, or he stays and plays for the best team in the world! COYS
GlennAmy
Great minds TK - although fools seldom differ!
Slurms McKenzie
I am in Brasil, TopSpur13, but I was thinking of all the English and Irish who are staying up till 2 a.m. Finally something worth staying up late for you to watch. It's only 9:30 here, and matches in Brazil often start at 10 p.m. But for those of you in the U.K., at least there was one really nice goal to make it worth doing.
Total knobhead
Can't wait to watch the game later when I get home. COYS!!
Madaboutspurs
fools may seldom differ, but only the fool can speak the truth to the king without have the head lopped off.
Total knobhead
skip the first half, madabout. skip the first half.
Total knobhead
kane too soft on his shot.
Total knobhead
benny played well tonight.
Total knobhead
Happy looking camp. Come on Kane get the ball over the line , you deserve it you've played "that well"
Slurms McKenzie
I assume I'm the king in that little nugget TK!!!
Slurms McKenzie
How nice is to see Freund's smiley face in the technical area instead of Harry's ugly mug! COYS
ItalianYiddo
How long has Jenas been on?
Slurms McKenzie
the king of uruk
Total knobhead
jenas has been on since the interval, but invisible.
Total knobhead
Now the question is do I go to bed or make an early start?
ItalianYiddo
Straight to bed for me at final whistle, what was Bassong at?
Slurms McKenzie
italianyiddo, you have time for a three hour nap, no?
Total knobhead
Not as bad as the Liverpool match anyway TK. Now that was rough!
TopSpur13
Night Night!
Slurms McKenzie
two things to take from the game that we already knew. the highline defence isn't there yet and Gylfi has some real quality.
asherthesmasher
Jenas looked way better than Hudd tonight.
Fanman
Carroll's the best of the young bunch.
TopSpur13
And yes before you ask, I sleep naked, with the window open, but I suffer shocking with the night terrors!
Slurms McKenzie
Thought the CM was a million miles better in 2nd half than first. Even just the willingness to run with the ball or run beyond the striker without it. Just moved people out of position to create that extra yard. Hopefully Hudd just rusty because he will have huge responsibility on his shoulders next year.
gatch75
not a bad second half.......1st half showed what we already knew and what avb neede to.......
rovinella62spurs
I will take your advice TK, off to bed. Enjoy the rest of your evening!
ItalianYiddo
So the half time consensus remain, Niko is much better than Siggy eh?
zombie-greavsie
the ice man's goal made the match worth watching. bale must stay out wide on the left, for god's sake. david bentley should go gently into the night and never return. hudd has a long way to go in his return. he surely isn't there yet. bring in mountinho quickly. sorry to see pienaar go, actually. especially with the like of bentley and jenas still with the club. the ice man, not VDV should be kicking the ball on dead ball situaitons. stop saying 'soccer'. did AVB show an ability to turn things around during the interval? that would be a positive change.
Total knobhead
seriously I saw Jenas on screen with three minutes to go and thought he'd just come on! And Fanman tells me he looked way better than Hudd?
Slurms McKenzie
All I know zombie-greavsie is theres a step in it somewhere
Slurms McKenzie
This time...may Kane never play for our first XI! That kid can't make a pass to save his career...F@CK! Tom Carroll was good though : )
dcruzer
Good game played at a good pace, players getting better with the system. A couple of quality forwards required as Bale ain't a number 9. Still think we need a keeper and a playmker too. Great goal by The Sig, nice cofidence booster for AVB and the team. Thudd looked a mile off the pace, nice effotin the first half though. Bentley can go, if there's anyone stupid enough to buy him. Not sure Kane is ever going to be good enough, hard worker but that's all, same goes for Townsend. Naughton looked a capable deputy for Walker and Carrol was tidy. Woud like to see Coulibay and Lancaster get a run out soon. COYS
thfc1882whl
I'd agree with that TK, walker was poor to night, Noughton looked lively, Kane not there yet, Hudd and Livermore were solid ad steady but creative sprak needed for outlet pass. There is not a "ghost" of a chance that Bale is a No.9
Slurms McKenzie
Yes. Lancaster and Coulibaly are miles better than Kane! Let them have a real chance on our XI!
dcruzer
slurms, hudd was terrible, but let's not give up on him. he was out for a long time and deserves some patience in his come back.
Total knobhead
The last 35 minutes or so were very very good from us, the Spurs we've accustomed to. In all three US games our defensive high line has gotten better later in the game. Did Gomez even have to make any saves tonight? Very good substitutions from AVB tonight. When our CM started to make forward runs in the second half our game got to a whole new level. All in all it's good to build up from this game. Sorry for bad english :D
Jables
Still think Townend is closest to making the step up he needs the tougher opposition to improve his game, prehaps a season with swansea or villa?
Slurms McKenzie
Right I'm off to bed for real this time. COYS
Slurms McKenzie
If AVB were allowed to make bold decisions, i'd say he should flog Jenas, Bentley, Bassong, and Kane far away from our club...they can't make a worthwhile contribution at all......
dcruzer
I could understand everything you wrote, Jables. Apology not needed.
Total knobhead
Slurms, agreed, let Townsend go out on loan for a season with a Prem club. Make or break for him this season.
thfc1882whl
@dcruzer - Kane is only 19. We have to give him more time since he is not ready for the lone striker role yet. He has a decent shot, cannot pass yet, but given 1 or 2 years he might be good for us.
Jables
Night all
thfc1882whl
Further, since we have Parker and Sandro as first choice DM's, there is no need for Livermore and Huddlestone. We need to choose just one. Which one would you guys choose to stay?
dcruzer
I agree, Kane and Townsend need to be loaned to Premier league teams this season. Nice to see Bale and Siggy developing a good connection during the past three games. Naughton did well, he looked more self assured and could well feature in the first team this season.
zombie-greavsie
Huddlestone can produce some excellent lofted passes and deft touches. I'd go with him.
zombie-greavsie
Will need both of them throughout the season. Hudd is likely to be in the starting 11 imho unless we buy someone like Moutinho. None of the others are good enough technically. Carroll in future maybe
gatch75
If AVB is serious about competing on all fronts then we may need Hudd and Livermore at the ready.
zombie-greavsie
Carroll needs to bulk up. He'll probably be loaned out to a championship side this season.
zombie-greavsie
Levy needs to pull his finger out and buy some top players all across the pitch. I know it was only a pre-season friendly but Spurs were poor, and the only first team players missing were Defoe and Modric. AVB was experimenting with players and formation, so I can cut him a bit of slack, but I have a bad feeling his stay at Chelsea will be longer than his stay at Spurs. The main problem is Levy. Harry wanted to bring in Tevez and Cahill- Levy brought in Saha and Nelson. AVB is going to have the same problem- he'll want player X and Levy will bring in player Y. And player Y will be inferior. Spurs will never compete at the top of the table as long as a bean-counter who thinks he knows football (but doesn't) is the only man making transfers.
elbondo
I thought their GK was unreal, watching the highlights, it should have been 2-1 up at half and 4-1 full time!
tengboon
Elbondo, I don't know which first-team YOU are on about, if you think Adebayor, Sandro, Parker, and VDV are not 1st team. And I don't know a PL team of any standard that are even close to firing on all cylinders by Aug.1st, that's why it's called PRE-season. Relax my fellow yid, have some faith!
tengboon
For a little perspective Man City lost to Oldham Athletic 2-1 last night, I don't think you'll see City fans throwing their toys out the pram just yet. Early days people, still early days!
tengboon
Not sure why people are in a panic. Thought we looked very encouraging last night/this morning. We may have gone in 1-0 down at the break, but we were on top of them throughout and created ample opportunities. Second half we really stepped on the gas and could have bagged 4 or 5. Once again the issue was with a lack of finisher up top, but there were far more positives to draw from the result than negatives. Benny MOM for me. I can't remember him surrendering possession a single time and looked so comfortable throughout the game
Dave the Yid
Many of you guys leave me speechless. Your comments through the match are so unbelievable. It's a preseason game. It's meant to get people into shape and to learn the tactical aspects of the Coach's plan. Mistakes and bad play are expected to be a part of it. That's how they learn. Elbondo I'm sure Harry really wanted Messi...Are you for real? Jeez!
jvd
ive never seen a striker that really has no idea where the goal is... oh yeh KANE....

why didnt Coulibaly get a 45minute run out....
Yidmarks
KANE couldnt score in a brothel....
Yidmarks
Good morning everyone.....elbondo.. your worries are unfounded...there is now a huge difference in Daniel Levy's attitude on transfers, and manager, Levy & Joe were very careful in their Due Dilligence on appointing AVB... have you forgotten that Joe Lewis is paying out for the new stadium build with finance facility much reduced. Also that gives Levy considerable money for transfers of Quality players. My ITK who knows Levy & Lewis very well has told me some things that has happened and some that will happen over next few weeks.. Don't worry we are on the the way to the top.. COYS
Block D Spurs
@DtY and jvd - finally voices of reason @yidmarks the kid is 19 ffs and is trying to step up a class or two give him a break. This isnt FM where you sell a player after 3 goaless games this is the real world. Coulibaly didnt get a 45min run out cos he isnt on the tour. This is pre-season people and they are in their mid-season so have the match fitness we are playing towards the Newcastle match yet we still played them off the park in both halves. Get some perspective COYS!!!
nomorewhlegends
Yidmarks, I've said as much (albeit in slightly more restrained tones) in other articles. I'd dearly love to be wrong about Kane, but for the life of me I just don't see the where the potential is. He's had ample chances on loan where he hasn't pulled up any trees, and in the majority of cases players who are going to make the grade have shown it at his age or in a lot of cases well before. He doesn't have a standout quality, seems to lack pace and (dare I say it) footballing intelligence, and whilst I hate being pessimistic over a young footballer, I can only see him being a bit of a waste of a squad number (if he gets one). And if he wasn't one of our own, and we all took our Spurs-tinted glasses off, I think more would agree.
LilyWhiteHart
Is its just me or was Jenas actually better than Hudd and Livermore put together? Really was unimpressed by livermore in particular. I think Thud thought he was as good as Xavi last night with the opposite effect. Bentley was riddiculusly bad but twas amusing to see him try the same 2 tricks constantly even if no one was trying to tackle him followed by a pass back to defence. I'm never going to like bassong so I won't bother slating him and Bale please stop diving :(
Rapm
Gut feeling is that Kane is a low level PL player. Having said that he is 19, players mature at different rates and imo he looks to have more pace already than last year and I def see improvement. Few people thought Wellbeck would have any impact at Utd. Give him time. You cant have a squad of 4 strikers all on 80k per week. Unless your City, Chelsea. Assuming we have Adebayor, Defoe and get another striker Kane warrants a squad place and will improve imo,
gatch75
As usual I am posting without reading but a few of the comments. For me this was a useful friendly as the Red Bulls seemed interested in a game and are clearly very fit with this being mid season for them. I thought we did OK and it is much needed game time for Thudd and Dawson who both missed just about the whole season with injuries. I hope they continue to bring Thudd back gradually. Also we must not forget that Bentley and Jenas also both had long term injuries. So it's good to see almost all our squad fit. A couple of comments though: 1) Bale as centre forward is a non starter as he can be shut out. Sure he is great in the mix for corners etc as he can really head the ball but he is wasted as a forward. In the second half he moved to the left and as a result stretched the opposition defence so mad room for other players, noticeably Siggy. 2) sure our second half looked better but taking into account my previous point the main difference was red Bulls took off their top players at half-time. They removed teir midfield in order to keep them fresh for a big game on Friday and without Cahill and Tainio they had no midfield All in all though a good physical workout for the team and some encouraging sins of fitness levels returning, plus an indication of the football they will try to play under AVB
Forever Spurs
oops sorry for the typos but far too many words for me to type accurately
Forever Spurs
I don't want to keep harping on about Kane, as it could easily come across that I'm mercilessly berating the kid which obviously isn't my intention. I just don't see this 'potential' that others seem to. I am fully aware that if we have 4 strikers in our squad then one or two of them have to be low(er) level low earners in there for back-up/early cup rounds. But I've seen enough of Kane and Coulibaly to know which I would prefer to be given our fourth berth. Or to put it another way, if Kane was not one of our own, if he had not come through our ranks and was therefore viewed through Lilywhite goggles, and was playing at Championship level or on the fringes of another EPL team, would you bring him in as a fourth striker?
LilyWhiteHart
Yidmarks, Guiseppe Rossi was a $hit player when he was a teenager at United ? Will you say that now (before his unfortunate injury). Diego Forlan was a $hit player too when he was in PL. Didnt he score at will in Europe & International. Drogba- he was struggling in French league second ddivision till 23 years scoring almost nothing. what his scoring tally now ? Demba Ba- 2007 he was part of Mouscron FC, a Belgian club, which is now bankrupt - so whats his history ?

Everything one cannot be Messi or Xavi at young age. Kane is good. Yes, he didnt score. But do you really know his true position ? Kane's best have come in last year or so, when he plays as second striker or attacking mid. He created loads of chances for Milwall. He makes good runs and has decent ability in holding up. At 18, he already has developed good physique.

From seeing him at preseason - I can say this - he will not be a lone man triker. He is a second striker, who can make good runs behid the defense, stretch them and create opportunity for others. This is his exact role in Milwall. He has scored & created numerous goal for them - single biggest reason why Milwall survived and survived so well. So, lets not go after him. Lets support him what he is good at and let him grow.
sydqcb5
Overall I enjoyed the game improvement on lst two I thought. I can see what AVB is trying to move - high back line which the defense haven't adjusted to yet and we will have PL clubs tear us apart unless they get it going soon. Instilling movement and pace which we did ok bt lost the ball and missed Modric in the middle. Hudd is useful but he is not very mobile for that sort of game and Livermore is not good enough both will be subs imo. JJ is not good enough and I thinkhe needs to go will not be in first 11 or get much PL game tme with us and Bentley is even less suited to our game now and definately needs to go. He can't beat is man and is slow. I saw Lennon move around more than he usually does and I hink we will see a different Lennon over time and Bale needs to play side either in a 3 or 4 midfield as centrally we lose his strengths and he is not good enough. In 2ndhalf he went to the left and he was better. Siggly role will improve when we have a striker he is still finding his feet but he can score. Sorry but Kane is not ready I will not say good enough as is young and he is trying to get into a top 4 side better he goes out on loan to a PL side midtable one.
br>I think we need to look at Cauliby, Gio, Caulker in this new system to determine if they are ready or good enough and Townsnd like Rose mabe need more PL experiene but maybe ok as squad players. I like Carroll I think he is the best of the bunch and did last season he has a footballing brain, good movement and technically good. He reminds me a a'child' version of Modric where he looks young and small in statue and learning is trade but I like him and look forward to seeing him mature- can become a top player.

First stop imo sell JJ, Bentley, Bassong should get 20mil use it for a striker. If Modric goes bring in replacement an another striker and I think we are good.
thfan
I have just read the last post by Block D and agree with him. Some of what I have heard has come to pass, things like Freund as assistant when no one was talking about it, and my gut feeling is that we are doing some good deals. But as we are keeping quiet over it all the speculation gets out of control as we try to guess what is happening. I do believe we will come out with some great signings yet at the same time realise that until everything is signed and sealed no deal is a 100% thing
Forever Spurs
Itís very hard to judge a game like that. We are missing our two central midfielders and our attack. You have to think from last seasonís team we didnít have VDV, ADE, Parker Sandro or Modric playing. And itís a pre season friendly. On the other hand you can say WTF was that!! We ARE missing at least 3 starting 11 players: 2 strikers and a CM

Block D Ė Come on then, you canít say your mate knows levy etc and it will be sorted without any foundation or follow up!? What has he said? I only ask as there seems to be no reliable ITKís out there at the moment.
hudderspur
DL we know prefers to negotiate behind the scenes which makes even more sense if he is going around with wads of cash in his back packet...less chance of getting mugged over transfer targets
Forever Spurs
thfan - in which district of bizarro-world do you see us getting a combined £20 million for Jenas, Bentley, and Bassong?!??!
LilyWhiteHart
Well after such a late finish and watching Tottering Hotspur in the first half, what ever happened at half time, did they all come back through a time zone and revert back to being SPURS? Because i could not believe the difference, we passed the ball better, the movement was far, far better and looked a lot sharper, was it down to the changes NYRB made or was it simply, Bale reverting back to his more natural position, Harry Kane is not the answer for us as a prem striker, but full credit to him last night, he worked the back four, his movement and link up play was good, not excellent finishing, but in time that will come, to see the ball delivered better from corners, Bale's header was spot on, Siggy showed a finish of pure class and some of the reason we chased him during the this transfer window, cutting inside on the left and bending his shot around the keeper, Carroll impressed on the ball, good things come in small packages and Dawson stopped hoofing it 40/50 yds across field, I felt for Kyle Walker, i have never seen him give the ball away so much, but keep working and his our number one right back, Naughton did his job and did it well, playing simple, as he did for Norwich on his loan spell, Gomes had nothing to worry about the odd cross, dealt with well and was the penalty the only shot they had on target? Hudd needs to work hard and regain his sharpness, we know he can pass a ball and has two good feet when striking a ball, no it was better, far better then the first 45mins, SPURS looked good in the 2nd half, much better then Tottering Hotspur did in the first.
spu 4 life
LilyWhiteHart - Jenas 6.5 mil, Bentley 7mil, Bassong 6.5mil - Levy's World lol Just being optismistic
thfan
thfan - I would KILL to have your optimism hahaha!!! Levy's a shark, no doubt......but in all honesty and in the interest of thinning the herd I'd happily take half of each of those fees and get one quality team player in. Also at the risk of repeating myself, I want us to give Gio one last crack at showing us what he can do. Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
Your pricing, does that come from the new waddingtons game, ''Sell Your Deadwood'' Would you pay that for any of them? Not for me, LilyWhiteHart is spot on, get half that i would be happy...
spu 4 life
Great post Forever Spurs and JVD about the game and comments throughtout the game.
Ossie
Would like to see GDS on the right for Lennon.
Rapm
Rapm - that's the one position I actually WOULDN'T like to see Gio in, if indeed it's his 'last chance saloon' with our beloved club. Every manager he's played under at Spurs seems to think he's a wide midfielder/winger, because he has a trick or two and has some pace, but for me he's infinitely more effective in a central role. Ideally playing off a typical no.9 striker. When he plays out wide he is limited in the influence he can have on a game. Although if we're playing more of a 4-3-3 then I can definitely see the merit in having him in either the left or right of the top three. The lad's a goalscorer, and I am really hoping he gets his chance this time around. I'd actually be amazed if AVB hasn't had him watched at the Olympics bearing in mind how threadbare we are in forward positions. Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
We certainly looked a lot better in the second half. Perhaps the greater mobility of our midfield was key to AVB's tactics working a lot better? Hudd, Livermore and Bentley just aren't quick enough and lack the necessary aggression to play a pressing/closing down game effectively.
Spurs Allday
No need to panic & pointless evaluating the result, performance etc as sooo many key players missing. HOWEVER, for me (so a personal view) what the last few games have shown us a few obvious things A. We play far poorer football with Dawson on the pitch (Kaboul, Vert, Caulker all preferable for me), Kane basically is not good enough (harsh but true), I love Lennon, but he really needs to step up more & a right wing challenger to him is essential, Naughton is a genuine challenger to Walker & if Walker keeps playing poor should get chances (keep them on their toes), without Modric we lack that critical control (he will be massively missed), Siggurdsson will be a Great addittion to us, we lack genuine match winners (only Bale) & need a Striker who is one.
Windlespur
Oh - and I believe that the Demba Ba £7 million transfer buy out clause expired last night, so trust he is one such match winner we will not be buying.
Windlespur
The mid field of Hud and Livermore was the biggest flaw I thought in the first half. We had absolutely no hold in midfield, the passing was terrible and didn't look like they could work out how to get passed the opposition.
Rapm
I didn't think that the live comments during the match showed any panic on the part of the supporters. (a) The Spurs truly did play poorly in the first 45 minutes. (b) The Spurs played like a different team in the second 45 minutes. So, the fact that many of us were pointing out the poor performance of the first 45 minutes was fair commentary. (c) The second goal by our club truly was something to bring back optimism that was flagging while watching the lethargic performance of the first half. (d) It's too early to assess Kane, and AVB must be seeing something in the lad during practice that is missing during the matches, but he hasn't provided much that would lead an observer to laud him for much of anything. (e) Bale in the CF position took too much away from the needed wide pace. It seems an experiment that is failing so far, but if AVB continues to try it, let's let him. He ought to be smart enough to give up on it if it starts to harm the team. (f) We truly are playing with any forward at the moment. So, we either find some forward somewhere, or we open with a 4-6-0, or we play someone at forward who isn't a forward. I'll not discuss the possibility of the 4-6-0 option now as it seems to perturb some on this site. Mo, Larry, Limburger. (g) I'm sad that we never got a chance to see Pienaar play when healthy. He might have been a good addition. At least the club added 1.5 million on the re-sale. (h) Are the lads back in London now or still in transit? (i) The second 45 minutes last night restored my basic feelings of optimism about the new era. Huzzah! The life of a Spurs supporter can be a roller coaster.
Total knobhead
Rapm - totally agree & obviously Sandro/Parker will be an upgrade on Livermore, but Hudd is no Modric. We WILL miss our best player, hope he stays or we HAVE to BUY (Eriksen, Moutinho). Add to my findings: H - Bentley does not show that he wants it - sell for £3 million.
Windlespur
TK - we have much to be optimistic about, BUT, the next two weeks really are critical for us - we need two new strikers (& match winners), we need GDS focused on Spurs, we need Sandro to return fit, we need Modric to stay OR a replacement in, VDV needs to get his ass fit etc etc
Windlespur
here is the story in today's New York Times that was inspired by last night's Spurs vs Red Bulls match: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/01/sports/soccer/iceland-makes-its-mark-on-european-soccer.html?ref=sports
Total knobhead
After last night I'd sell Bentley for three farthings.
Total knobhead
the author of the NY Times article, Jack Bell, has a real dislike of supporters of Arsenal, by the way.
Total knobhead
.....having read all the comments on here and having watched the match live last night and recording it and looking at it again this morning I still cant work out what AVB wants exactly from our team and what tactics he wants to use. One thing for sure is that ,if we are going to play a high line, we had better be more prepared for the ball over the top. Thudd needs some game time and needs to be loaned out, Kane still doesnt have that finishing ball in him to score, Townsend looked lively, Lenny couldnt keep possession to save his life and putting him out on the left wing just shows he is not a two footed player, Siggys goal however was sublime ,but why have we not dealt with set pieces yet again? Especially free kicks. We still lack some authority in the middle of the park. Dawson put in a great shift and BAE was just plain solid, Vetonghen had better get on the right side of his attackers or our penalty count will go up this season, Bentley needs a Sat Nav, preferrably to show him where the exit door is, Jenas was ...same, same old. Overall though I still have no clue from any of our games as to how AVB wants us lined up come Newcastle. We need Modric that is for sure cos we aint got a play maker in the side and he is going to be a big loss for us......hope AVB has got his tactics worked out cos were all a bit clueless on this side of the pond.
OyVeh Maria
LilyWhiteHart, great comments regarding GDS, wish I could catch some of Mexico's matches here in China, just to see how he's worked into their formation. Completely agree with your assessment, let's hope AVB will give him some encouragement and a serious looking-at before season starts
tengboon
I was at the game and super excited to have my son watch Spurs live for the first time. He enjoyed and I couldn't be any happier. On another note, let me just say that Jenas, Bentley, Basong & Livermore should be sold. Jenas & Livermore can't pass, control or have any vision. Kane must be loaned out even though I don;t see any great future for the guy. I disagree with u guys on Townsend. I think he is a live wire. He needs to grow into maturing his game but he is one great prospect. I also have high hopes for Carroll but long way to go. I always said that Lennon must be taught where to make his runs. He has speed, good player but I think if he learns from strikers t run behind defenders he can be lethal. Sigurdsson is a good player but I don't think he will be our Modric. He has a very attacking mind and makes some great runs inside the box & always has some smooth assists coming from both sides. Hud had a quiet night and I think he is the only one who can pass. Walker was disappointing last night but we all know he is a great player and just had a bad night whereas benny is cool as a cucumber. Very static, but that's his game. CB were ok even though Vertongen was caught sleeping when Cahill made that run. And finally, we NEED a striker. I'd say 2 of them. One top and another one that might serve as a cover because I am not sure how are we going to cope. Haven't seen Defoe for obvious reasons, but i think we should go for another striker and offload planty of players that are dead wood. Finally, there is nothing like MODRIC. I know many say we will go on, and we will, but I bet you all that we will not have another Modric for many years to come. Our c-mid is nowhere without him. COYS
kosovo_spurs
Oyveh! Hard to work out tactics when we're playing essentially 4-6-0 first half, no strikers.

And if I'm encouraged by anything it IS our set pieces, one of which got us the first goal, another nearly missed but for a blinding save. Tony Parks said himself in Baltimore that they are spending for more time on set pieces this pre-season, and we have a lot of talent for these between Bale, VDV, and now Siggy.
tengboon
Livermore must have had a bad game, but he showed way more class and consistency 2nd half of last season. Way too early to talk of him as deadwood. Hudds looks like he's worked hard on his fitness, remember what a lard-arse he was coming back from injury last time 2 years ago, he'll be great for us this year, just as he was when Modric was injured 2 years ago, you know, when we made CL.
tengboon
tengboon, I wish I could say the same about Livermore. The guy has no vision, can't control the ball (bounces of him as if his feet were made out of cement). I dont see any future on him but I hope to be wrong; however, i highly doubt he will raise his level
kosovo_spurs
In my view, Livermore doesn't offer us enough going forward, and defensively, Sandro is alot better. He's a decent squad player, and a good option off the bench, but at the moment, I don't think that he's good enough to warrant a starting place. I think that Kane is a decent player, hopefully he will improve with age.
Fanman
Guys, if media is speculating that Caroll's price has dropped so low, I think I would definitely bring him on board. That is, only if we can get him for a decent money ($10 mil tops). I think he is better than he has been killed off lately and our wings can be a great asset to his headers. Him and Ade, both! I believe we could afford them both!
kosovo_spurs
I reckon Livermore is our 3rd choice DMF behind Sandro and Parker. I'm hoping that Sandro gets more game time than Parker this season. I rate Parker quite highly, but Sandro is just a great DMF.
Fanman
kosovo_spurs, I agree that Carroll is a good shout, he gives us a good option to hit the ball into the box when teams park the bus against us. I think that he's suited to our style of play and as you say is a great target man for our wingers.
Fanman
AVB is still unbeaten as Spurs coach and the trend of his results is improving. In fact he has won 100% of his games with Spurs, this week and his win rate over all is 50% it might be a tad early but I think its nearly safe to say we're looking at the new invincibles...
Slurms McKenzie
 

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