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Manchester United vs. Tottenham Hotspur

On Friday evening I make my annual pilgrimage to Manchester to spend Saturday evening sitting in Old Trafford courtesy of my United season ticket holding brother in law. 

Spurs have achieved just three wins in 40 meetings since the top division was revamped in 1992-93. Chuck in eight draws and Spurs have won just 17 points from United, while United have won 95 points or 2.38 points per game against us. United have won 84.8 per cent of the points of all those split between the pair. It is the 14th most uneven contest in the Premier League. 

On Saturday evening AVB takes Spurs to Old Trafford and I wanted to look at what AVB has achieved against Manure whilst at Chelsea. At Old Trafford last season it was 3-1 to Manure, AVB's first defeat with Chelski since joining the PL. In the return fixture at the Bridge it was 3-0 to Chelsea and then the wheels came off, or rather, Daniel Sturridge, who was, by all accounts, Chelski's best player. He was replaced by the rather raw looking talent of Oriol Romeu. The result; 2 Rooney Goals and one from Hernandez and a 3 -3 result. Had the game lasted 5 minutes longer it was generally acknowledged that Rooney would have got his 3rd and Manure all 6 points for the season! 

I am hoping that AVB learnt something from that poor choice of substitute and that the same mistake isn't repeated in Saturday's match. However, in the West Brom match at WHL this season, we were 1-0 up and AVB brought on Jenas in the 76th minute for Defoe, 14 minutes later West Brom scored. AVB's record in the PL for Chelski was: Points per Game in PL; 1.7 and success in games; 61%, not bad if you are a mid-table team, but not exactly what a Billionaire like Abramovich wants to see as a return on his investment. 

On Saturday we will find out just how far AVB has come since his last appearance in the PL at Old Trafford. Last season, on the 18th September 2011, United were three up at half-time. Chelsea contributed to their own downfall courtesy of poor defending and a dismal failure to take the chances that came their way. Sound familiar? To be fair Rooney missed a penalty ending up on his backside after slipping and Torres completely missed an open goal. So what does AVB need to do on Saturday to improve our 17 points from a possible 95 that we currently have against Manure? 

Who we play depends on how we approach the game? Do we go for attack and put two up front? or do we go five across the middle and four at the back and hope we can catch them on the counter? How will Fergie see the game? He hasn't got Vidic (again) and Rooney may still be out so Manure have got problems. Everton sunk them by hunting in packs and forcing them off the ball, but they had Fellaini who was unplayable that night up against Carrick playing at CB. 

Last Weeked the Bin Dippers hunted them down and for 60 minutes were the better side. So is the secret to hurry Manure when they are on the ball and go for them at the breakdown or are we going to see square balls being played at the back and passes into space for the wings to run on to. How does AVB play this one?

Written by OyVeh Maria



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Writer:OyVeh Maria
Date:Thursday September 27 2012
Time: 10:49PM

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I think this will be the first win I can remember against United :)
BrooksySpurs
27/09/2012 22:53:00
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Chris Foy as referee + away to Old Trafford = 0 Points + loads of bad decisions + us, totally pi$$ed of on Sunday morning.

A miracle is needed if we have to win there.
sydqcb5
27/09/2012 22:56:00
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My team :
Friedel/Lloris, Walker, Caulker, Gallas, Vertonghen, Sandro, Dembele, Lennon, Bale,Dempsey,Defoe.
sydqcb5
27/09/2012 22:57:00
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Good article- please more of it oyveh. I would also have a 5 man midfield and hunt them. Starving rvp of the ball and forcing them back. And emphasing to bale and Lennon to track back quickly to retrieve and assist our backs who aren't exactly on fire (bar jan). 1-1 or 2-1 to us
van der haart lane
27/09/2012 23:03:00
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To me this is more about the players being up for it. If we can show the same grit and determination like we did against Lazio, then we may very well have a chance (that is assuming that utd. are not playing with '12' players). We typically lose this game because we've lost mentally and teams like Utd. can smell blood instantly. This where the difference lies between us and them currently, and yes I don't really rate the current Utd. team. I think Arsenal have more of a chance at winning the league than them.
spuradic
27/09/2012 23:04:00
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lioris will play and we will or should have won!
Little spur
27/09/2012 23:05:00
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tbh guys im not expecting anything from this game. 3-1 united :( i do kinda wish lloris would play but then id be going against my principals. so the team i think avb will play on sat goes, fried, walks, caulks, gallas, verts, lennon, demb, sandro, bale, siggy (id rather have demps), and defoe
BrooksySpurs
27/09/2012 23:12:00
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One thing going into game positive for us is Dembele who had a great game there this season for Fulham. I see him doing the same this time too. And I really really want to see Vertonghen at LB and Bale at LW.
sydqcb5
27/09/2012 23:18:00
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Correction: should be "17 points from a possible 120".
OneCentRob
27/09/2012 23:19:00
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need to score 3 to get anything from the game not gona happen im afraid:-(
finglasyid
27/09/2012 23:21:00
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when was the last time we got a penalty at OT??? and if by a miracle we do, who takes it?
shedboy2
27/09/2012 23:31:00
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Forget the ref's decisions Man U deserve their record against us.
MrSpurs
28/09/2012 00:05:00
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Lloris to save the match for Spurs with a series of spectacular saves! Why not?
Total knobhead
28/09/2012 00:10:00
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Not sure a certain Mr Mendez would agree with you Mrspurs.
ItalianYiddo
28/09/2012 00:11:00
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COME ON YOU SPURS & WIN WIN WIN !!!
Madaboutspurs
28/09/2012 00:42:00
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Italian - 3 wins in 20 years I would say Mr Mendez would struggle to disagree to much.
MrSpurs
28/09/2012 00:42:00
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MrSpurs one win could ve changed so many things. Jinx broken . One point could ve had us at playing Montepillier and scum facing Lazio.
sydqcb5
28/09/2012 01:25:00
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"I am hoping that AVB learnt something from that poor choice of substitute and that the same mistake isn't repeated in Saturday's match". Yes I hope that AVB doesn't make a bad substitution at 3-0 up as well :-)
In-spurs-ational
28/09/2012 01:25:00
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"It is the 14th most uneven contest in the Premier League". I can't believe there are 13 more uneven contests. Surely we should be number one!
In-spurs-ational
28/09/2012 01:31:00
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If anyone wants to defeat United at OT (and few have achieved that lately), a strong and solid winning mentality is more than needed. It plays the central stage part. Tactics and formation are important, surely, but to beat United, Spurs must believe they can do it. I´m tired of seeing sides 1 or 2 goals up United just to lose the match in a mere 3 to 4 minute-span. Don´t you believe ?? Just ask Southampton fans two weeks ago.
AlexSpur
28/09/2012 02:21:00
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HA HA Inspurational. I thought the same thing. No 14 !! We must be higher than that. The result is such an annoying foregone conclusion it really is not funny. I hope one day I am proven wrong

You will all forgive me if I do NOT wake up at 2.30 am where I am to watch this game.
Madaboutspurs
28/09/2012 02:31:00
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I'm know manager but I would look to the left hand side to unlock utd, I've been watching rafael this season and he likes to push right up there, in doing so grabbing himself 3 goals already this season, bale is going to be key as he will have a lot of space on the left hand side to run in, hopefully he will give rafael the lesson he taught his Brazilian mate!!
tottingham10
28/09/2012 05:33:00
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4-5-1 for me press them loads which is A.V.Bs style and please have Llrois in goal this week for quick accurate passes out to hit them on the break and with that in not saying Frdial just dont play him for this game ,,,Man U are swapping keepers and it works i think Llrois woul be pumpd up and have a blinder.Whats the latest on Ade ??? COYS cant wait for this Saturday 2 fine games to watch !!!
Edinburgh Spur
28/09/2012 08:12:00
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Word is fergie is playing Foy through the middle with Clattenburg in the wings so I predict a complpete hammering of their goal with several definite penalty appeals turned down, a key player for us sent off (later rescinded on video evidence) 3 goals disallowed all of which crossed the line and werent offside with pundits still waxing lyrical about how we need goalline technology now but see how utd won even tho they were pants its what champions do you know and a late penalty for them when Rooney trips over a sod of grass that we left there malisciously and on purpose as a henous trap. 3 points to manure again mom to Foy and old red nose spouting 5h1te about swings and roundabouts how our luck will come these things balance themselves out etc etc etc...
nomorewhlegends
28/09/2012 08:26:00
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nomorewhlegends, so the usual then
In-spurs-ational
28/09/2012 08:38:00
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tot10, good call on playing to the left, Rafael is injured this week as well.

By the way, this is the best bloody article I've read on the Lloris/Friedel thing: http://hereisthecity.com/2012/09/27/nh-lloris-to-be-given-baptism-of-fire/?
tengboon
28/09/2012 08:49:00
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Simple. Match them player for player all over the pitch for 90 minues. Attitude, effort and inteligent teamwork. Absolutely no point in sitting back, we need to impose our game as they will trying to do to us. See you there OyVeh - we'll be the ones pretending to clap MU whilst not actually touching palms.:)
Love totty
28/09/2012 08:50:00
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To me this is just another game - win, lose or draw it should have no significant impact on the bigger picture, we'll still be in 4 competitions regardless of the result. However, this is a media game. Its Man U, its high profile and Skysports and The Sun will be all over it. Its ridiculous, but we need a result to get some good media coverage and get our own fans to buy into this new era. A heavy loss and it would go the other way and could spell the end of AVB even before its even begun. Ridiculous, but thats the reality these days. Fans don't use their own brains anymore, they follow what the media tell them. Incidently, great to see AVB putting that journalist in his place asking him about Lloris' frustration - "what frustration, how do you know he's frustrated?". LOL - nice one AVB. Phucking hell i hate journalists. Meanwhile, despite all the negativity and unease, we are 6 games unbeaten and won 3 out of the last 4 - see you can twist it however way you want to!
StillRickyVilla
28/09/2012 09:15:00
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I'm not expecting anything from this game, I just hope that we don't get humiliated.
Fanman
28/09/2012 09:18:00
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sydqcb5, I agree with your team, unless Naughton is fit, then we can move Verts back to centre-half. I definately hope Dempsey starts ahead of Sigurdsson. He'll be able to get on the end of Bale and Lennon's crosses, forget about Defoe doing that...
Fanman
28/09/2012 09:23:00
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And as regards the article, typical replication of media drivel. The media made a big thing of the Sturridge substitution blaming Man U's comeback on AVB - lo and behold every fan thinks Chelsea didn't win that game because of AVB. Not because of the hundreds of different factors and plays that can happen during a game of football. But the substitution is highlighted as the one and only reason. Abslolutely ridiculous.
StillRickyVilla
28/09/2012 09:24:00
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Here's another stat that the article doesn't mention. Harry Redknapp: years in management - 30 Trophies won - 1. AVB: years in management - 2 Trophies won - 4. Typical AVB sniping article from a typical Spurs fan who got brainwashed by Redknapp's media pals. Do we even want to be successful?
StillRickyVilla
28/09/2012 09:39:00
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I hope AvB has watched our last game against manure.
Tottenham Hotcore
28/09/2012 09:55:00
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I dont want to temp fate but surely...SURELY this time there wont be some sort of refereeing clanger that leads to us getting our traditional, old Trafford thumping. Surely this time, a new manger and a new set of ideas, a new set of players including one who destroyed United earlier in the season...we have at least a cat in hell's chance of getting something.

I have to be honest, I'm not even hoping for a win. In fact if we get a draw I'll be delighted...I think I'd even be happy getting beat 1-0 as long as it has nothing to do with the ref.
KierzoSBC
28/09/2012 09:55:00
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This is the game where I really wish we had another fit defensive midfielder. Sandro-Dembele-Parker would have been my ideal midfield with Bale-Ade-Lennon up front. Since this isn't an option I think it will be Friedel Walker-Caulker-Gallas-Vertonghen Sandro-Dembele Lennon-Demspey-Bale Defoe
Kes80
28/09/2012 09:57:00
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I think putti Lloris in now could be suicide for his future confidence. If we go there and get stuffed 3-0 we could get a Gomes situation again where his confidence was smashed by a few errors, which led to further errors in a vicious circle! Of course if Friedel plays and we lose it could give AVB the reason to drop him and bring in Lloris?
gothic spur
28/09/2012 10:19:00
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Tengboon i read that article ,it is class so rare nowadays ,everyone should have a read.On the team i would rather keep Vetts at left back for this one ,Caulks and Gallas will be fine ,,,Naughton has really impressed me but this will be a step up and for Caulks itwill be the biggest game of his life and he will shine ,,,would like Ade fit ,he is out again with hamstring .
Edinburgh Spur
28/09/2012 10:23:00
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nomorewhllegends...top post ! love it!
OyVeh Maria
28/09/2012 10:24:00
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@nomorewhllegends you forget to mention Howard Webb!
SPURS666
28/09/2012 11:03:00
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edinburgh spur...lets not forget that naughton and caulker had a full season prem experience last year so i am sure they played against top teams home and away so i have every faith that they will be ready for OT tomorrow if needed.
MP81yid
28/09/2012 11:05:00
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0 points for Spurs this weekend i'm afraid. I also have the pleasure of going to Old Trafford for the first time this weekend its just a shame I will be leaving disapointed.
Rapm
28/09/2012 11:12:00
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Man Utd away is the type of game where we really find out what AVB is made of. If he doesn't apply a clear set tactics and a game plan then these reported 50 page dossiers that he creates are worthless and Please please please do not start Jemain Defoe up front on his own!!!
MrSpurs
28/09/2012 11:20:00
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I think it's unfair to pin AvBs success on this game, history states we will get nothing.
Tottenham Hotcore
28/09/2012 11:25:00
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I don't see where our goals will come from. We needed Ade for this game, ManU defence will snuff Defoe out no problem.
Hot_Spur
28/09/2012 11:29:00
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we will not get any points on Saturday only point we will get is the finger out as losers yet again .,... i just cannot understand how we cant beat the 14 player ofUtd when we play them I just think it is unfair the FA allow 3 of them to wear black and one is allowed a WHISTLE and he stops the game when we might socre !! where is a bloody ref in this fixture when you need them oh thats right he is a utd player
Aussie Yiddo
28/09/2012 11:30:00
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Jenas has gone for now, and a win at Old Trafford in the same week? C'mon guys AVB is doing a great job but do you really think he can manage both of these in the space of a couple of days?????
yiddyboy
28/09/2012 11:33:00
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ManU wage bill must be colossal what with all the players and referees as well.
Hot_Spur
28/09/2012 11:42:00
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I'm not going to say I'm confident of a win at Trafford, but what I would say is that I think this Spurs team has more players in it that won't be overawed and beaten before a ball is kicked. Man for man our midfield is equal to theirs, no question. They have injuries to key defenders, and aside from RVP their strikers aren't exactly pulling up any trees. I can see Fergie putting Valencia at RB, whether that means trouble for our own LB or an opportunity for Bale to have his first decent game of the season remains to be seen. But yeah, cautious optimism would just about sum my mood up for this game. And let's face it, we're due a favour or two from Foy!!! Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
28/09/2012 11:49:00
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THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY; So it's old trafford on saturday and the odds may be stacked against us; Many, many years ago, i travelled to this game, Division one september 4th 1976, One of the guys (Man U fan & driver) from our local pub got a coach load up, mixed with my mates, 7 of us, all spurs fans and setting off early on saturday morning for the 3pm kick-off, no ticket required. Arriving we all got seperated, i ended up with another mate (Man U fan and his dad) in the end opposite the stretford end, what ever that's called and it was full with Man U fans, oh great, fights broke out in the stand to my left, and a ball had not been kicked, YET. Without a league win in our first three games of the season, Steve Coppell had put United in front after 16 minutes, with Stuart Pearson netting a second before half-time. I never moved when they scored, everyone else was jumping all over the place, it was the worst feeling in my entire life at a game, the goals scored in the end i was standing. Second half started, only the second half was very different, as we set about United in a determined fashion. A goal from Ralph Coates, which swung straight in from a 56th minute corner put us back in it, while Ian Moores scored his first Spurs league goal after Naylor and Neighbour set up the opening for him. With just ten minutes remaining on the clock, a left-footed drive from substitute John Pratt flew into the net 3-2 to us, for fear of getting kicked into the next century, again i never moved, but inside my heart was pumping, a man u fan asked me ''how long to go'' i replied, ''just under 10mins, it's a good game'' the smile on my face when he turned around was a kodak moment, i looked at my mate and his dad and just winked, thank phuck for that the final whistle, 3-2 and we have won, get out and back to the coach, meeting up with my mates again, was like seeing a long lost relation again after god knows how many years, we must have laughed, hugged each other and singing for what seemed ages at the time, on the long journey home we sung all the way back, well most of it until falling asleep. My only visit but a 100% record. The Spurs team that day was - Daines, Naylor, McAllister, Hoddle, Willie Young, Keith Osgood, Coates (Pratt), Perryman, Moores, Chris Jones, Neighbour Attendance : - 60,723
spu 4 life
28/09/2012 11:57:00
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As it is when fighting an American in America. You have to knock him out to get a draw. Remember Pedro Mendes?
spurboy61
28/09/2012 11:58:00
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This is a fixture that somehow Spurs always seem to be on the wrong end of bad referee decisions for some reason. Over the last few years, Spurs have had the following go against them:- 2010/11 – Heurelho Gomes mistakenly believes that a free-kick has been awarded after a handball in the box – the keeper subsequently puts the ball down to restart play, only for Luis Nani to opportunistically stroke the ball home into the empty net. Mark Clattenburg claims that he played ‘advantage’ rather than awarding the free-kick, yet fails to explain how an opposing side can score a goal during another team’s ‘advantage period’. 2008/9 – Howard Webb awards Manchester United a penalty after Michael Carrick goes to ground after contact from Heurelho Gomes. At full speed, the Brazilian keeper clearly makes a clean contact on the ball, rendering the impact with Carrick incidental. 2004/5 – Pedro Mendes shoots from 45-yards, and a scrambling Roy Carroll fumbles the ball a full two yards over the goal-line. Neither the referee or the assistant spots it, and play continues. 2007/8 – Wes Brown handles Dimitar Berbatov’s goal-bound shot on the line, nothing is awarded. 2001/2 – Mauricio Taricco concedes one of the softest penalties ever awarded at Old Trafford for a phantom shirt tug. The Argentine is also, mystifyingly, red-carded. Now I find it hard to believe one team can have this much bad luck in the same fixture, I just hope Chris Foy gives us a fair "rub of the green" but I sorry I will not hold my breath.
Ox Yid
28/09/2012 12:03:00
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As much as I am left fuming at refereeing decisions 99% of the time with this fixture, atleast the game (9 times out of ten) is an absolute cracker with great attacking football from both teams. Of all the instances in recent history the Nani goal is the one that *****es me off most, that was ridiculous. With the Mendes goal atleast the linesman was however many dozens of yards away so atleast he had some semblance of an excuse, even if he was the only one in the stadium who didnt see it!
Mex_yiddo
28/09/2012 12:07:00
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Well take a look at this bundle of fun away at OLD TRAFFORD; Spurs to Old Trafford for the Saturday evening kick-off; and you know what that means – more hilarious refereeing decisions. Obviously one of the great features of the Premier League, is the impressive level of consistency the officials manage to maintain in creating a competitive imbalance for any side visiting to Old Trafford Is truly remarkable. By way of a strange series of coincidence, probably throws up more examples of this delightful phenomenon than any other fixture in the league. So let’s have a little retrospective on some of the more…unexpected…refereeing calls in recent years. – Heurelho Gomes mistakenly believes that a free-kick has been awarded after a handball in the box – then subsequently puts the ball down to restart play, only for Nani to opportunistically stroke the ball home into the empty net. Mark Clattenburg claims that he played ‘advantage’ rather than awarding the free-kick, yet fails to explain how an opposing side can score a goal during another team’s ‘advantage period’. – Howard Webb awards Manchester United a penalty after Michael Carrick goes to ground after contact from Heurelho Gomes. At full speed, the Brazilian keeper clearly makes a clean contact on the ball, rendering the impact with Carrick incidental. – Pedro Mendes shoots from 45-yards, and a scrambling Roy Carroll fumbles the ball a full two yards over the goal-line. Neither the referee or the assistant spots it, and play continues. -Wes Brown handles Dimitar Berbatov’s goal-bound shot on the line, nothing is awarded. – Mauricio Taricco concedes one of the softest penalties ever awarded at Old Trafford for a phantom shirt tug. The Argentine is also, mystifyingly, red-carded. – Tim Sherwood is hacked to the floor by Paul Scholes during the build-up to David Beckham’s equaliser; the incident happens right in front of the referee, but play continues.
spu 4 life
28/09/2012 12:08:00
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SAME SAME Ox yid... I remember Man U home last season; mind games when fergie said ''he feared Saha'' so harry got done and played him, he was shi7e.......
spu 4 life
28/09/2012 12:11:00
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Valencia is doubtful says Ferguson thats a bonus for a start ,its a bit all doom and gloom out there come on its got to change sometime really !:) ,worried about V.D.V he will want to score against us for sure ,with all the changes and renewed recent confidence we do actually stand a chance ,,,i watched Southhampton against them and they were shi te for 65 mins [yeah i know the other 25 mins :)] ,letsd have a bit of hope a !! COYS.
Edinburgh Spur
28/09/2012 12:16:00
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The Nani goal was Gomes' own fault. Have you not heard of "play to the whistle"? No foul was given for the hand ball, he did as he said, play the advantage.
Hot_Spur
28/09/2012 12:22:00
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We have set up as an away team so far this season so it should be an interesting match. Utd are playing $h1t but as always they are still winning so won't be easy but as the article suggests it is about time we started winning!!! COYMFS!!!!
T.H.F.Chris
28/09/2012 12:24:00
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BTW, Last time we beat United, Steffen Freund was in the bench. Tomorrow he would be in our bench too....
sydqcb5
28/09/2012 12:26:00
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edinburgh...VDV????do you mean RVP???
shedboy2
28/09/2012 12:38:00
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I agree with spu4life....re Gomes....there was no advantage for us, ever heard of unsporting conduct? that's what that was brought about by bad refereeing...
shedboy2
28/09/2012 12:40:00
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The only player in the Spurs Squad that has any recent experience of beating Manure at Old Trafford is Vertonghen with Ajax last season 1-2 Europa League Cup......!
OyVeh Maria
28/09/2012 12:41:00
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CAN SOMEONE MAKE IT STOP ASKING I WANT THE ANDROID APP. PLEASE. I downloaded, you can't read posts, or post yourself. Unless it's been updated.
Tottenham Hotcore
28/09/2012 12:41:00
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I'm sure the linesman had his flag up with the Gomez incident.
Tottenham Hotcore
28/09/2012 12:43:00
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The sad truth is we are easily good enough to beat MANU, but our psycology gets in the way. Every team that goes there with no expectations and has lost before they step on the pitch. I don't think they are a great team like in the past. How many of them would play regularly for Spurs. But the mental block is there even a 3 goal lead isn't enough to seal victory. Hypnotise the players - it's the only way
SPUDMAN
28/09/2012 12:49:00
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shedboy - The "advantage" means that spurs had possession. What is the point in awarding a free kick when spurs have possession anyway? Awarding a free kick simply interrupts play unnecessarily. Spurs had possession with Gomes therefore no need to blow for a free kick, simply play on. Gomes was at fault for not playing to the whistle. It was not bad refereeing at all, on the contrary it was good refereeing in allowing play to continue uninterrupted. Gomes puts the ball down in open play it's fair game for Nani to do what he did. Gomes fault pure and simple. PLAY TO THE WHISTLE.
Hot_Spur
28/09/2012 12:51:00
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Hotcore - The linesman's flag even if it was up (and you don't know that) is irrelevant. The ref's whistle is what you play to, not the linesman's flag.
Hot_Spur
28/09/2012 12:56:00
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Tottenham Hotcore the linesman for tomorrow has already signalled for a Utd penalty!!
yiddyboy
28/09/2012 13:05:00
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Hot_Spur, play to the whistle is a fair statement and a golden rule that was drilled into me from a young age. But as shedboy2 states, there is the point of unsporting conduct. It the same as kicking the ball out when a player is injured, you are not forced to give the ball back but sportingly you do. Same principle applies my friend!
yiddyboy
28/09/2012 13:07:00
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Spurs have had 17 Managers and Caretaker Managers since the Premier League started and not one has recorded a PL Victory in that time at Old Trafford ....!
OyVeh Maria
28/09/2012 13:16:00
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So many with Gallas beside Walker. Positionally slow and positionally unaware. We have played poor teams that have failed to rip us apart in this regard. I do not expect Fergie to be so kind. If Brad is in net, I suspect we'll need to score 4. There is no lineup I can chuck out there that could manage that without it being so poor defensively that we concede 6 or 7. If Naughton is still unavailable I'd go with Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Caulker, Vertonghen, Sandro, Dembele, Bale, Sigurdsson, Lennon and Dempsey. Hudd, Gallas, Defoe, Townsend on the bench.

United will not come at us. They will try to stop us from doing what we want and will make us pay for any loose passes with counters. We need to get the ball and hold on to it and unlike against Lazio we need to bury our chances. Get up early and then make them change to an offensive setup and counter with pace. Rafael and a few others make huge mistakes every game. Run at them. Be ruthless and quick and we can win. We have the talent in the side we just need to execute and play for the full 98 minutes. COYS
peterballb
28/09/2012 13:20:00
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Seems Rooney is back and you might as well put your weeks earnings on a man.utd win. BUT ...we'll all be watching..cos' footballs a funny old game !!..lol. Just hoping to see... friedel, walker,gallas,caulker,vertonghen, lennon,sandro,dembele,bale, dempsey,defoe. subs...to include Parker and addy..soon to be ready.
82spursdebut
28/09/2012 13:21:00
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If Naughton is available the back four would be Walker, Caulker, Jan and Naughton. COYS
peterballb
28/09/2012 13:26:00
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yiddyboy - No it's not the same thing. Your example is a dead ball situation, in the Gomes incident the ball was live. If Gomes behaves as if a foul was given when a fouls was not given then Gomes is at fault. There cannot be any argument about that. It was not bad refereeing, it was good refereeing in playing the advantage rule. Gomes phucked up. What Nani did was not unsporting, the ball was in live play. I can understand people being p****d off, I was p****d off, but I was P****d off at Gomes, not the ref. Blaming the ref is simply sour grapes and denial that Gomes was at fault.
Hot_Spur
28/09/2012 13:48:00
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I always dread the Manu games, especially as 2 of my brothers are United supporters. It does not matter how well we play something always goes against us. Ref decisions, Bad pass back, Goalie clanger, you name it. Now on the positive side, maybe AVB has done his research he will set us up so we are more of a threat. If we break against the manure like we did against QPR in the 2nd half on Sunday and actually convert those chances I could see a good result. Let's send some positive vibes to Old Trafford! I want to see old red nose in shock from losing to Tottenham Hotspur!
mountainyid
28/09/2012 13:53:00
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on a different note, I so hate the media. The video of AVB being asked why Lloris is frustrated......bunch of wayne kerrs!
mountainyid
28/09/2012 13:57:00
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