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Is it time for the FA to grow some.

Is it time for the FA to grow some.

Football in this country, and indeed in Europe involving English players, is apparently going through a crisis period with regards to racism, both alleged and proven.

We have had the Surez/Evra affair, the Terry/Ferdinand incident, an allegation of racist abuse by a player to a ball boy, and now the as yet unproven incident of alleged racial abuse by a PL referee against a player. These incidents are dragging our game into the gutter. High profile black players are demonstrating their concern by the highly publicised tee shirt boycott, but are the PFA, or the FA, doing enough to protect them, and are their clubs, their employers, showing sufficient support.

Whilst all this is going on at home, England were involved in an U21s international in Serbia, where racism is a known problem, and has been largely ignored by UEFA with the imposition of he occasional derisory fines on the Serbian FA, their only response. Low and behold the inevitable happened, and black players were subjected to a match long tirade of verbal abuse, and the situation detriorated into a brawl at the end of the game, clearly seen on TV.

Now the Serbian police have had the affrontary to charge 2 English players and an official with inciting violence. Now is the time for the FA to stand up and be counted, firstly by imposing meaningful punative punishments on those found guilty at home, and a refusal to sanction games between either club, or international teams, against teams from certain nominated Eastern European countries including Serbia, where racism is a problem, this may shame UEFA into action.

They should also insist that the charges against England players and officials be dropped, or instruct those accused to refuse to answer them. We as a club should show an interest as both Danny Rose and Steven Caulker are key figures in this debacle.

Written by Frank

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Date:Friday November 2 2012
Time: 9:19AM


I would actually back an International boycott of certain countries such as Serbia, but you know that despite the reasons being valid and actually being for something the governing bodies supposedly back, you could imagine it being England that would be banned from competition because of a refusal to play a team. ALL ruling bodies have to be firm and as an individual, we know that we are potentially fighting a lost cause at the moment, as could we really be sure that the likes of Spain or Italy would back us, as their problems are far worse and yet their FAs do far less that we currently do.
02/11/2012 09:23:00
I think we have gone past the point of seriousness as this is becoming as farce now.
02/11/2012 09:24:00
UEFA must take action against serbia now, but dont hold your breath
02/11/2012 09:26:00
The fight against racism must be consistent. The British police look into alleged incidents on the football field but not on the cricket pitch where racist sledging is prevalent. Footballers are also harshly criticised for their lack of sportsmanship when they "dive" but rugby players gouge kick and bight each other and nothing is said. Why is football always the whipping boy? and why is racisim against the white community tolerated? Why is it ok to say pom or limey or kraut or frog or yank etc etc?
02/11/2012 10:01:00
I don't live in the UK and the John Terry/Anton Ferdinand affair firstly dragged on far too long. If you want to be serious about something then you need to resolve any given case with a high priority. Secondly, JT allegedlycalled AF "a Black C**t". Is someone saying that if he called him "a C**t" then that would be acceptable?
02/11/2012 11:10:00
Really great Article Frank, Ox totally right they will simple sanction England or our Clubs ... I think an option would be to say they wish to play being closed doors as that way players will not be subjected to the disgrace full actions of the serbiand just recently ... either that or nuke the country problem solved
Aussie Yiddo
02/11/2012 11:34:00
Good article, but I'm afraid i can't see the FA or UEFA doing anything apart from the usual sitting on their backsides saying how awful it all is and that something should be done about it. There seems to be no real will from the officials to stamp this out once and for all. If found guilty, whoever it is, international or domestic team, should get a ban from ALL international and European games for a minimum of five years, teams would soon sort it out. On a different note but even more of a problem for US, I read this in today's Telegraph, Tottenham midfielder Mousa Dembele could be ruled out for six weeks if he needs surgery to clear up a long-term hip problem. Dembele has been suffering with the injury since he was at Fulham last season and aggravated the problem once again when he was playing for Belgium against Scotland two weeks ago. Typical of Spurs to buy a player like him when he is crocked and do nothing about it as early as possible.
02/11/2012 13:20:00
yiddyboy apparently so, because it wouldn't be racist. Seems like as long as you leave out all references to colour and ethnicity it seems like anything goes.
02/11/2012 14:12:00
chrishove123 - can you explain why is it not racist when the media quote "Rio Ferdinand 'plays down' reports of a breakaway black players' union"? Is this because the expression is not abusive? On the subject of John Terry. We are talking about a guy that slept with a team mates girlfriend and received NO punishment yet calls another player a name and receives a ban and fine. Is it only me that sees the worse crime go unpunished???
02/11/2012 15:35:00
YIDDYBOY... A black players union is not racist nor is a black policeman's association.... However if there were a white policeman's association or a white players union Then the media and ethnic minorities would probably scream racism at the top of their voices.
02/11/2012 16:18:00
Yiddyboy, It is nothing to do with the FA who John Terry sleeps with, that was between him and Wayne Bridge. There is an old fashioned way in which Bridge could/should have sorted that out, but he either didn't care enough, or didn't have the bottle to tackle Terry, but the whole affair pales into insignificance, when compared to racist abuse.
02/11/2012 16:38:00
The problem we have in this country is far more serious than discussed. Such is the hysteria surrounding so-called 'racism' that we now have, in a supposed democratic and free society, police calling on and arresting people for making comments on social media and/or in person. Frankly it is frightening the way matters are going, and those in charge in Pyongyang must be taking notes. Calling people names is not, and should not be an offence that results in police action, unless it is slanderous. Offensive comments are just that. Offensive. When did we lurch into this totalitarian state? I could understand if reference was given to prejudice or discrimination, which are far worse than this sort of perceived racism, which is just name-calling. Those who are wanting police involvement in racial abuse should perhaps read up on Rosa Parks. That was real prejudice, real discrimination, really disgusting and rightly dealt with seriously and got rid of, permanently. Threats or violence are of course far more serious, and should involve the authorities, irrespective of motive. Another example of diminishing civil liberties was at the Olympics, when some twonk sent Tom Daley a tweet saying his late Dad would be upset at his performance. Crass, and he immediately apologised. However that was not good enough, and we had the unedifying sight of Clive Woodward, head of the UK team, stating how 'delighted' he was the police were involved. What a ****. What is this country coming too? The idiot who tweeted about Fabrice Muamba (while drunk) went to prison. So did some women who made comments on a train, caught on Youtube. Now, any reference to colour will definitely involve the police. All of course in the name of tolerance. Voltaire must be spinning so much he should have reached Australia by now. Proportionality has disappeared from our lexicon.
02/11/2012 17:50:00
The reason being that here is such a thing nowadays as positive discrimination which puts minorities etc above everyone else. Personally i think that positive discrimination is even worse because it is sanctioned discrimination instead of as level playing field. But there you go that is how it seems to work these days. If you are an ethnic minority you stand a far better chance than if you were a national. By the way before anyone says anything I am not being racist about this, I am pointing this out because i think that discrimination in ANY form is bang out of order.
02/11/2012 18:18:00
Lord Johnny always love your posts but..Voltaire? Lexicon? Proporionality for gods sake!!! ? You sure you shouldnt be on the Oxford web site? ps? He was just seen spinning past The Opera House! I think your trying to "push a river" with this one, remember its the media leading the charge here so words like balance and intelligence should be thrown out straight away. or to quote your friend Voltaire?........................................ Common sense is not so common.
02/11/2012 21:18:00
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