Writer: OxfordSpur 
Date:Tuesday November 20 2012
Time: 9:48AM
The Society of Black Lawyers circled today as the day when the term Y*D will be officially complained against for being offensive, regardless of who and how the term is used.
Now why the 20th of this month was the day chosen to draw the line in the sand. Why not the 25th when we play West Ham, a game where abuse is bound to be flowing from both sides? Is it just to give us all five days notice? Now just for the record, I am not Jewish and don't even have any friends that are openly of that belief, therefore am I really able to understand whether the Yid/Yido phrase is taken as being truly offensive or whether there is understanding in their football supporting community that understands and accepts the reasons why our fans use the term both with affection and also as a means to counter racial bigotry from other supporters.
I say football community, because I wonder if there is a difference, in actually witnessing the usual football banter or abuse and how it is given and countered. Certainly in my time of going to WHL, the anti Jewish chants are not as regular or seemingly issued with such venom as my early years at the Lane, not that any such insults are acceptable whether whispered by one person or shouted by a whole stadium. As a Spurs fan writing this, I am very interested to hear the thoughts of our Jewish fans and perhaps their reasoning will make me think again about my using words that may genuinely offend. To many it may be a badge of honour or just singing a song that now typifies our club, but would we really want to sing it if it made our fellow fans quietly uncomfortable. I know I wouldn't.
Personally racism rarely touches my life. I live in an area where 95% of my locals are White/English, not even British and the joke is usually more about inter-breeding and marrying cousins than anything else. Perhaps that in itself is an ist or ism of some sort. What about Yokalism? Perhaps I should form a society to protect them? What I feel however is a divide in my thinking. When I listen to views from the likes of David Baddiel as a Jewish man, I have to take his point, if he says it offends his faith. Equally I never feel I am being racist when I sing the Yid word, as I strangely feel part of my clubs history, but if I knew it was upsetting to some people around me, would I still be so innocently happy to join in with me fellow fans?
As for Peter Herbert and his fellow Society members, I fully agree with the comments from John Barnes that their current work, will only cause resentment from the majority and will continue to be ignored by the minority that cause the problems and for me, targeting Tottenham fans is an easy and high profile target that may hit the headlines, but is for me hitting the problem from the wrong side. But is any victory however small, still a victory worth fighting for, however small and far from the core problem? Of course, if Spurs fans are to be complained against, we must also see complaints made against rival clubs when anything deemed unsuitable is shouted, perhaps when all abuse against Spurs fans and their Jewish connections is irradiated, there would be a genuine reason to argue against our chanting the Yid word.
In the last few days, the site have had a couple of members ask to change their long standing username to one that no longer has the word Yid or Yido in it. Perhaps to some it is a major over-reaction, but I wonder if others privately are now reconsidering the suitability of their username and for all our dismissive comments about Peter Herbert and David Baddiel some are at least considering their use of the words and as a club, can we ever see a time when the use of the Y-Word is no longer used by our fans and any form of racism is no longer part of our great game???
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As for whether Spurs fans should continue to use the word "yid" I'm all for listening to the true Jewish Spurs fans. If they are offended and request that the world stops using that term in the context of our football club then so be it. Over the last year we've had other threats to our identity like renaming WHL and even being called "London Hotspur" and playing at the Olympic Stadium. Let's remember there is no single thing that can change our status as Spurs fans and stopping using the word Yid doesn't erode our identity at all. We have way more depth than that.
Hip Hop music is far more racist than what gets sang on the terrace but that just gets parental advisory warnings .
The world is getting far too sensitive & racist hypocrites like Peter Herbet need to concentrate on far serious issues that go on in the world .
Child sex grooming & child prostitution is out of control but who is too happy to brush that under the carpet ?
http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/25963?
See that dickhead from the Society for Black Lawyers isn't giving up on us. He's meeting the Met & will still lodge an official complaint. Is this guy the worst purveyor of spin ever? Because that can be the only explanation for his antics, to raise the profile of his little society into something bigger than it can ever hope to be. Give it up you plonker - you've lost!!
Do we have MOWO awards ? music of white origin
To stop racism is to stop the double standards ,muslims are ridiculous with their double standards .
Racism is bad but too many want their cake & eat it .
Personally, I'd charge the guy with malicious intent to incite racial hatred. Maybe if someone made a compliant against this guy to that effect, he might give it up, but I won't hold my breath. Double standards as Big C says & nothings going to change until thats adressed properly.
Black Police Federation, Racist Society, For Black Police.
It seems that the only people who can be Racist are Whites.!!
The chant Yiddos is in my mind a cheer for OUR team! COYYS
YID ARMY! YID ARMY! YIS ARMY!
I agree it sounds more than a little farcical that a group with an obviously racial name is trying to tell the rest of you what to think and I personally haven't seen more than the (very) occasional Jewish allusion to Mr Levy's purse strings on this site as evidence of any stereotypical disrepect.
As I said, it was a personal decsion and done out of respect for a friend after I did the very simple thing of asking them how THEY felt about it. If you want to keep using the term the world won't end and I won't think any less of you for it. I mean I already think your POMS, so how much worse could it get? (sarc) :-)
Surely having Groups naming themselves 'Black' and allowing only Blacks in are in fact perpetuation Racism?
Please do not think of me as Racist in any way, I just cannot see the help given towards eradicating racism by these groups.
To me they are only fueling the fires.
I don't want that, do you?
The other point is the SBL is similar whereby there are bound to be less black lawyers and I think they are just an organisation to help increase and promote more lawyers. However they're sticking their nose in a place it doesnt belong. They want to be seen to be doing something and covnersely they're attracting more stick and making people dislike them even more, when im sure they have good intentions. I think Peter Herbert is coming across as a knob and need to tackle real issues, that can actually make a difference.
I would hate to offend my fellow spurs supporters but the Jewish supporters i know don't get offended and neither do my Jewish friends who are not Spurs fans. Maybe Baddiel should have a word with the that not very funny comedian that dressed up in black face and put a pineapple on his head and destroyed the career and confience of Jason Lee. I wonder who that was again, no surprises he was a Chelsea fan aswell. What's that saying clean up your own garden before knocking on other people's doors. Also I dont understand how making a derogatory word into a postive word is a bad thing. Are they trying to preserve the offensive word. Im 22 and I have never ever heard the word yid used as an offensive term. EVER. I hear have heard people use the word 'Jew' to cause offense loads however. So maybe they should start banning that word.
Also regarding the Nigga v Yid issue the onyl difference Id say is that for as long as I have known**** has and is still used in an offensive way obviosuly taking intent/context into consideration, and like I mentioned Yid hasnt, so I dont think it would be quite the same if I football base adopted that as a chant haha. Not sure what others think. COYS