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Everton vs. Tottenham Hotspur.

Everton have drawn seven of their last nine games, and perhaps their credentials of being the team most likely to shock the established big and bigger boys is slightly on the slide. I also perhaps question the talk of them playing wonderful football and instead feel they are perhaps still retaining their ruthless efficient methods, but this season have a greater cutting edge and also a truly devastating match winner and man for the spectacular in Marouane Fellaini, who has a legitimate claim to be considered the Prems player of the season so far.

Fellaini's eight goals this season and five in the last five games, would appear to be the main headline maker for Everton, but one win in those nine games, and that against lowly Sunderland is hardly potential CL form and you wonder if David Moyes's boys are just suffering a slight dip in form or are in fact now finding their level after a very promising start. Of course they have some excellent players such as Baines and former Spur Pienaar and remain extremely hard to beat, but I also feel that Tottenham have the tools to get something here, with just a bit of luck and a decent 90 minute showing.

Parker, BAE, Bale and Dawson are all suggested as being a week away from fitness, whilst Younes Kaboul remains a longer term absentee, but with a Premiership returning Emmanuel Adebayor in line for a start, just as long as AVB feels brave enough to play two strikers in such a game, you feel we certainly have the quality to offer a decent fight as long as the players show up and look like they want to fight for the game.Though the pairing of Ade and Defoe excite me, I am still awaiting real evidence that they can play together and not be just to busy and outstanding individuals working high up the pitch. Have we yet seen enough from either as a partnership to be convinced of playing an efficient 4-4-2 at the moment?

Elsewhere I don't expect too many debates in the starting XI. Lloris, Walker, Gallas, Caulker and Vertonghen seem our likely back five and that seems reasonable. in the middle, Sandro and Dembele are our best current pairing, whilst I feel we will play Lennon on the right, Dempsey will move to the left to cover the injured Bale and Adebayor will partner (ish) Defoe in attack. All seems quite simple as long as we don't have any unfortunate huge, tweaks or fall outs in the next few hours.

With Arsenal and Chelsea both winning this weekend, I do wonder if Everton face slightly the greater pressure to win or at least not to lose. Though I have a feeling that neither manager would be devastated with a point apiece, Spurs could realistically lose and remain in 4th, whilst Everton will perhaps feel their positive start and media early season good will will count for nothing if they start next week in 8th or worse, should West Ham beat Liverpool and Spurs score a few. Again I worry that a Thursday European fixture will take something from our players legs, especially against such a hard running opposition, but I hope that our successfully getting out of the group stages will act as a boost to any fatigued legs or minds and we can then rest up for a few days before facing Swansea, safe in the knowledge that a top four place is looking more comfortable...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Saturday December 8 2012
Time: 5:29PM

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3 points are what I wanted, but realistically it will not be as easy, and since it is away, I will gladly take 1 point to be honest since Goodison Park is not always our happy hunting ground and that some of Everton players like Fellaini, Jelavic, Pienaar all with decent form so they will not give up without any fight.
what_sux
08/12/2012 17:39:00
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I'd go 4-4-2 with the exact line-up you suggest. Don't you wish we had one more striker on the books though?
spurswede
08/12/2012 17:40:00
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and please remove the first post!
spurswede
08/12/2012 17:40:00
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Poor taste What Sux....degrading to say the least. Nice looking girls are one thing but this is beneath this site.
jvd
08/12/2012 17:50:00
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spurswede, agreed. I think that we'll line-up in a 4-4-2 with Dempsey deployed on the left. If we go 4-2-3-1, I think that we should play Siggy on the left with Dempsey behind Defoe. I prefer a 4-4-2, but I don't trust Ade after his nonsense against Arsenal.
Fanman
08/12/2012 18:07:00
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Agreed re first post NEEDS TO GO ASAP
Big Ron
08/12/2012 18:08:00
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Lol love it what_sux
Mix26
08/12/2012 18:27:00
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Being Spurs fans, I guess it has become inborn within us to be reserved and little apprehensive about these games to be hoping for a draw as worst case scenario. Hwever, I am going to be more optimistic and suggest that we can win this!. Not worried about their form and the fact that they have had so many draws with only recent win against SUnderland. Remember Liverpool's unbeaten run before they came to WHL?. Fellaini?..no probs. If we have Ade in the starting line up then he too should provide the same threat for us. As much as we will definitely miss Bale, I think we have enough in our tank for the battle. As long as we score first, I will go for a Spurs win. Only worry is that AVB may choose to go for Defoe alone upfront and looking to introduce Ade in the 2nd half. Would very much like to see a charging start rather than a leisurely knocking the ball about in our own half. COYS!
Critical_Spur
08/12/2012 18:41:00
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BTW, What_Sux, I love the pics you post to break the mud-slinging here, but NOT as the first post though........might give newbies the wrong impression, LOL!
Critical_Spur
08/12/2012 18:42:00
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Would take a draw, but a win would be great. After tomorrow, for the rest of the season, the only "big" clubs we have to play AWAY from home are Liverpool and Chelsea. With most of the 'hardest' games out of the way already, there's a chance we could have a good season. Kabeast, Parker and BAE will be welcome additions back to the squad, could still do with cover for Lennon and Bale though for injuries and rotation. Last year still haunts me a bit, but as long as AVB doesn't play FOUR players out of position to accommodate the loss of ONE player (genius coaching) then we should be alright.
Crissybwoy
08/12/2012 18:49:00
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Critical_Spur, AVB doesn't strike me as a manager that likes to go gung ho and I think he likes one up front. Having said that he has played Defoe and Ade together a few times and to be honest, due to injury, suspension or the fact that we didn't have the player, I'm not sure on how many times both could have physically played together. I'd like to see both from the start, get a few goals in early and then sit back and relax (that would make a nice change).
In-spurs-ational
08/12/2012 18:51:00
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Realistically we should be looking for a draw, not losing would be my target. We our our quality no reason we can't sneak a win.
ItalianYiddo
08/12/2012 18:52:00
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This is a strange game in the sense that for all the hype around Fellaini, they've only won one of their last nine games. This is hardly a team we should be fearing. I think we are a little nervous as Spurs never do anything easily and we are without Bale who has been in great form for us and this is the first league game without him (I think that's correct)
In-spurs-ational
08/12/2012 19:00:00
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Critical, as Spurs fans I don't think we assume a draw is 'worst-case scenario', there's plenty worse than getting a draw away from home, we're capable of messing anything up, it's what we've truly excelled at down the years. No-one throws away opportunities as well as we do, whether it be having lasagne for dinner, or throwing away an apparently unassailable points-gap, losing 4-3 from 3-0 up to a 10-man Man City in the FA Cup, the list is endless.
Crissybwoy
08/12/2012 19:03:00
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ItalianYiddo, this is where we really have to change our mentality. We should always "realistically" be going for a win against anyone. It will be interesting to see what team AVB puts out. Does he feel three points are there for the taking or is he happy with a draw and a chance for a goal on the break
In-spurs-ational
08/12/2012 19:04:00
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In-spurs-ational, Agreed that AVB is NOT a gung-ho type of a manager but a slow start always worries me. It tends to hand the intitiative to the other team from the off. Seems we can SOME times start brightly at home but rarely away. With Bale missing, not sure whre the opening spark will come from. Hope the experience of Defoe,Ade and Demps will be sufficient to impose a threat. Would be great to see Dembele back as I think he will be our key player (the play maker). COYS!
Critical_Spur
08/12/2012 19:06:00
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Crissybwoy, I don't know about the first post, but your last post brought back nightmares for me :-) If there's a chance to mess things up, Spurs always find a way - to dare is to do as they say
In-spurs-ational
08/12/2012 19:08:00
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Nail on the head there In-Spurs-arional. It IS all about the mentality. I can't for a minute thnik that a Man-U fan will be thinking they could nick a draw here and a draw there. Bet they and their players always think how many goals they will win by. We are not Man-U (YET) but the mindset has to be groomed that way.
Critical_Spur
08/12/2012 19:11:00
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love it what_sux... keep it coming son...
Yidmarks
08/12/2012 19:11:00
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In-spurs-ational, "to dare is to don't" would be far more apt, sadly.
Crissybwoy
08/12/2012 19:15:00
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Critical_Spur, absolutely. Only the most loyal (or deluded) fan thinks we are going to win all our games. However for each single game, we must believe we can win it. After all if you don't think you are going to win then you probably won't.
In-spurs-ational
08/12/2012 19:27:00
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Bad taste whatsux and that first post is way below your normal contributions. For me, I'd love a 4-4-2 formation and a win but I expect 4-4-1-1 and a draw. Just the 1 point would be ok however a victory would really put some distance between us and the chasing pack (who've dropped points this w/e except Woolwich) whilst keeping us within GD of Chavski. Given Everton's ability to fightback from losing the first goal I feel that we need at least a 2 goal lead or a fantastic defensive display but given Gallas or / and Naughton will start I'm not expecting the latter option. The only time the 2 strikers have started together we initially tore Arsenal apart so perhaps they can rekindle that magic and not get either one sent off this time! COYS
bowerman
08/12/2012 19:34:00
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Tricky game, does baines absence equal bale's? Expect both attacks to target the left side, jelavic not in form and ade on the return back. I guess a draw is not the worst result, but I see a 3-0 win if a 442 formation is deployed.
van der haart lane
08/12/2012 19:55:00
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Every picture tells a story, what sux post's his message in that a young girl is on all fours, meaning we are 4th, drinking from a bowl, we will give everton a good licking, lap it up, his after match photo (should we go out and beat everton) is one of a good shafting, looking forward to us winning.
spu 4 life
08/12/2012 19:56:00
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What-Sux, you have been asked several times not to post images on here. some are acceptable, but other are OTT and you seem to ignore the fact that we have readers and contributers of all ages and also people who are offended by such content.
oxfordspur
08/12/2012 20:07:00
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Lol@spu 4 life. Good move what-sux but think carefully in the future eh.
bowerman
08/12/2012 20:20:00
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gonna be a difficult game tomorrow and Everton haven't lost at home this season. I am hoping we will break their record tomorrow and if not at least put on a good performance. COYS
mountainyid
08/12/2012 20:31:00
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I'm sure that our lads recongnise how important it is to maintain that momentum. I bet they were gutted when we hit a dip and were 8th/9th and now to come back with 3 straight PL wins, they can really send out a message of intent tomorrow. Ade will have learnt his lesson. Dembele back to control midfield and Defoe still firing on all cylinders. The team spirit seems pretty high of late. All good omens imo.

PS., And many were worried about Liverpool, W Ham and Fulham?!!!!......Believe!
Critical_Spur
08/12/2012 21:08:00
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Ox - no MOM for the Pan game? Demps by a mile.
Love totty
08/12/2012 21:11:00
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I don't think Ade and Defoe will both start. We only have 2 strikers, so I can't see AVB taking that risk. Dempsey behind Defoe (but don't be surprised given Everton's aerial threat that Ade will start). Siggs on the left. There may be an issue over Gallas given his domestic situation, so i expect Caulker to partner Verts with Naughton at left back. Another option is Demps on the left, Carroll centre with Dembele pushing on. I think AVB will have a surprise up his sleeve.
jacobslad
08/12/2012 22:20:00
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Feeling surprisingly confident for this one even without Bale. Assuming Adebayor and Defoe both start, I see goals for us in this game. Adebayor needs to make amends for his last performance and Defoe is in red hot form. Sandro against Fellaini will be interesting and hopefully the Brazilian bosses him. Lennon has been highly praised by AVB for his defensive work this season and he'll have to continue to impress against Baines while giving him something to think too when he goes forward especially with Bale out. All in all, Think we might sneak the three but wouldn't be too downhearted with a point. COYS!
TopSpur13
08/12/2012 22:59:00
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I dreamt we won 4-0. Had to put a quid on at 100-1! Yes,i know, I've lost a quid. Inborn have drawn more than anyone else so far and I'd take a draw to be fair.
Tottenham Hotcore
08/12/2012 23:40:00
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And what was the first post?
Tottenham Hotcore
08/12/2012 23:40:00
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Inborn? Bloody swype texting.
Tottenham Hotcore
09/12/2012 00:11:00
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Not confident at all...give me a point now and I'd bite your hand off. We're bound to ph*ck up, we're spurs, let's just hope for the best though!
COYS_TSB
09/12/2012 00:12:00
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Difficult game given we have played mid week and Everton did not. More so, with Bale injured. Only consolation is availability of Adebayor.I am confident that AVB will play both Ade & Defoe simple reason that Dempsey is the only decent replacement for Bale at LM. The only other possibility I see is, playing Carroll with Sandro and pushing Dembele behind Defoe. This formation has some merit. Everton have the tendency to run over teams in middle of the park. By having Carroll & Sandro, we keep the balance in midfield and hope creativity of Caroll & Dembele could do the job.

In any case, this will be a tough game. Before start of game, I am happy to take a point. Unfortunately our next 3 games are against teams which are in good form - Everton, Swansea & Stoke. We have to dig deep in all 3 games and show character. If we can come through resonably well in terms of points, it should help us a long way towards our top3/4 ambition.
sydqcb5
09/12/2012 00:30:00
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I think we will be better off in a 4-4-2 with Sandro and Dembele pairing up. I am not convinced about Carroll. Yes there is some potential, i don't think this is a game for him yet.
asherthesmasher
09/12/2012 02:59:00
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I'm not overly convinced with Carroll yet. With blue and red scum both winning this is a big game (aren't they all), 2 games and it's possible to down around 10th, tight season this so far.
Tottenham Hotcore
09/12/2012 03:19:00
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COME ON YOU SPURS & WIN WIN WIN again :-))
Madaboutspurs
09/12/2012 04:54:00
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we won't still be in 4th place if everton wins. they'll leapfrog us on goal difference. just saying. i'm confident we can win this game though if dembele starts.
dazzwater
09/12/2012 05:21:00
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I see some big problems coming up for this game. Gallas and Dawson will not be able to play. So we need Vertonghen and Caulker at centerback. Unfortunately Naughton at left back doesn't work at all. Wish we had Rose available, I would feel a lot more confident. Anyway, COYS.
noone
09/12/2012 09:25:00
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A ggod test for AVB' tactical ability today. Everton play high-tempo, pressing football and so far this season we have looked completely lost when teams do this to us, although we have survived by the skin of our teeth in most games. Playing Dempsey as a nominal left MF leaves the opposition right wing wide-open as he plays mosy of his game centrally and doesn't track back much, a point not lost on Moyes from Thursday I'm sure. Personally, I don't think playing Ade with DeFoe does give us a 442 as Ade works back to gain possession and operates as an attacking MF for much of the game. I think he will be needed today to counter Fellani at corners and free-kicks much as Harry used Crouch against Stoke but anyway it all depends as to how AVB sets out his team and what tactics he decides to use. I hope he doesn't decide to sit back but obviously it's up to him. Interesting game win or lose.
Harry-Kari
09/12/2012 10:22:00
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Let's get real guys, in an ideal world we would go into every game expecting a win. If you are Barca, Real Madrid or Juve at the moment, I'm sure that's the case, unfortunately as long as we keep selling our best players we will never be in that category, so we have to be realistic, we are not going to get three points from every game away from home or even at home.

The chances of most away teams to go all guns blazing at the likes of Everton and get all the points are small, the chances of getting beat are big, result zero points and a morale sapping defeat. I would keep it tight, Ade to be our 5th midfielder, I would be happy with the 0-0 but we have enough quality to sneak the win. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
09/12/2012 10:36:00
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team pretty much predicts itself for this one. I.e....lloris,walker,gallas,caulker,vertonghen, lennon,sandro,dembele,dempsey, adebayor,defoe. subs; friedel,naughton,livermore,carroll, townsend,huddlestone,siggurdsen Mouthwatering scenerio of "Fallaini vs Dembele". Think i will predict a draw.....1-1. "come on you spurs"
82spursdebut
09/12/2012 10:39:00
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LLORIS; WALKER; GALLAS; CAULKER; VERTONGHEN; LENNON; SANDRO; DEMBELE; DEMPSEY; ADE; DEFOE. for me that's the best x1 available, being able to attack with purpose is the best form of defence and it does not have to set out as a 4-4-2, being able to inter change s the key and these guys can do that. Everton are a good side, but then so are we. SPURS to win 2-1 or 3-2.
spu 4 life
09/12/2012 10:48:00
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Just saw a stat - Everton lost just 2 in last 24 home games - that's a awesome stat. Last season I remember we lost 1-0 there playing a totally unbalanced XI, no Lennon - playing Modric on left and Bale on right and having no clue. We did cause lots of trouble and came very near to equalise last minute when Saha hit the post from 5 yards. It was the game that turned the season for us continuing on a loosing streak and eventually caught napping to finish 4th.
This season too we go there at a critical juncture in the league. Win this and go clear of the other top4 contenders- draw or loose it, be in a tight mix of 4 teams fighting it out goin into christmas. This will be the biggest test for AVB since United game. Arsenal game was more about passion, but this game is more about tactics - how we counter threat of Fellaini, how we play without Bale, how we play our strikers upfront, how we play with a injured backline and tired midfield. If we win this SOMEHOW, to me it will clearly be the best of AVB yet. If he looses it, there is nothing adverse, he will still have some critics to answer to.
sydqcb5
09/12/2012 11:14:00
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Attack, attack, attack, with the mighty Sandro defending the back!
pelebro
09/12/2012 11:34:00
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this is a huge game and test for both teams, im sure if there is a winner from this game it will be massive for them. set pieces could be the winner, coys
123spurs
09/12/2012 12:01:00
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we have the players to nuetralise their 2 biggest threats: Lennon will track back well to stop Baines' marauding and Caulker, Sandro will be in situ to nullify Fellaini's physicality..... Jahmene to score again methinks... good times.
Viyyash-Ramosh
09/12/2012 12:44:00
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any godd links for the match wat sux? Cmon the *****in yiddd arrrmmmyyyyyyyyyyy
Yidd Fein
09/12/2012 13:52:00
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Yidd Fein, best place = http://www.thefirstrow.eu/
TopSpur13
09/12/2012 13:55:00
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Lloris;Walker,Caulker,Gallas,Vertonghen; Sandro,Dembele;Lennon,Dempsey;Ade &Defoe
duckworth
09/12/2012 14:13:00
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Hi Peeps I have recently been finding this website better for links - http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=180385&part=sports it generally gets more links now than http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/index.html Sadly atm not listing the best links as Yes TV are showing United game, annoying that you have all these streams for the games that are on TV!
BerksYid84
09/12/2012 14:35:00
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look at man u 2 star players an winning 2 up, against unlimited funds £hity
123spurs
09/12/2012 14:42:00
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any good streams showing the game? COYS
acespur
09/12/2012 14:55:00
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cheers ts
Yidd Fein
09/12/2012 14:56:00
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wake up Vert!
acespur
09/12/2012 15:06:00
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nice to see us in feckin BLUE SHORTS again.
Viyyash-Ramosh
09/12/2012 15:09:00
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great save from lloris
Guernman
09/12/2012 15:12:00
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We will do well to get anything from this game - Everton look up for it.
MrSpurs
09/12/2012 15:13:00
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http://nutjob.eu/njtv1.html
BerksYid84
09/12/2012 15:13:00
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we can win this they have osman an gibson as CM
123spurs
09/12/2012 15:13:00
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We're playing a very dangerous game here, badly need Benny back.
TQ2Spurs
09/12/2012 15:22:00
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RIP £hity from RVP i love it. all they have is 2 ** players
123spurs
09/12/2012 15:27:00
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GUYS GO TO http://www.wiziwig.tv/softwareitem.php?softwareid=28&part=software Then go to http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=180385&part=sports Best stream but u need torrentstream software
BerksYid84
09/12/2012 15:32:00
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That link is Crystal Clear!!
BerksYid84
09/12/2012 15:35:00
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http://www.thefirstrow.eu/watch/158008/1/watch-everton-fc-vs-tottenham-hotspur.html
TopSpur13
09/12/2012 15:45:00
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Ade needs to release the ball quicker!! great tracking back by Defoe!!
MrSpurs
09/12/2012 15:46:00
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We haven't stared at all yet. What is going on!!!!!
SpuriousLife
09/12/2012 15:46:00
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How are we not losing... jaysus
TopSpur13
09/12/2012 15:47:00
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We're being absolutely battered.
SpuriousLife
09/12/2012 15:47:00
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Ade has been poor at retaining the ball. He keeps giving the impetus back to Everton
philbill
09/12/2012 15:48:00
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Topspur follow my links from my post much better than firstrow
BerksYid84
09/12/2012 15:49:00
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They deserve the hairdryer now
TopSpur13
09/12/2012 15:49:00
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We've been under the cosh in this game. The combination of Everton's sturdy defending, good passing and long balls are keeping us out of the game. I don't think we'll get anything out of this game, hope I'm wrong though.
Fanman
09/12/2012 15:50:00
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