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Two Different December Tales

As another Premiership weekend passes by many Spurs fans start the new week with a bad taste in their mouths.

Defeat snatched from the jaws of victory. The updated Premiership table highlights how tight it is in the fight for fourth and makes us wonder just how costly the weekend events may very well be. It would be difficult to have a decisive outlook on the season events so far and my opinions and thoughts like many others have swayed back and forth at times.

However, I believe both the Optimists and the Pessimists have substance to each stance. Lets take a look at the positives. We're in 5th on goal difference, 3 points off third and we've got Goodison, Old Trafford, the Ethihad, the Emirates and St.James Park out of the way. The new players have settled in well with Verts, Lloris and Dembele rated by almost everyone and Dempsey and Siggy winning others over as of late.

We've qualified for the knock-out stages of the Europa League, Defoe is in top form, We still have Kaboul, Parker and BAE to return, the youngsters are getting solid game time and we have a fixture list with winnable games on the horizon. On the other hand, elements of this season have been disappointing. Our inability to hold on to leads has cost us against West Brom, Norwich, Chelsea, Man City, Arsenal and Everton. 2 points from 18 in a winning position.

The Lane is no longer a fortress. We are out of the League Cup. Modric, VDV and King are gone and some will argue not replaced. Walker has been below par, Gallas is no longer able to cut it at the top level, Adebayor hasn't done a single thing of note apart from get a red card at the Emirates and we've still got numerous players that the manager would have happily shipped out in the summer.

Now I'm not going into a debate over AVB or whether there is a need to buy in January. Obviously opinions will differ. I believe the Optimists and the pessimists are both fully justified in their own thoughts on the season but lets get behind the team over the festive period. A good run and we could be flying high around the new year. Some says it is a season for transition and we can't expect too much and that may very well be the case but lets just wait and see what the next few months have to offer. COYS!

Written by TopSpur13

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Date:Tuesday December 11 2012
Time: 9:05AM


hmmm so you're trying to spark discussion on what?
11/12/2012 09:18:00
A very insightful summary of our situation. Just want the guys at the Lane to make it a fortress again coys
Big Ron
11/12/2012 09:20:00
I have this vision of Frank and Raging holding hands with Mix26 and StillRickyVilla dancing in a cornfield under a summer sun. AAH! Oh look here comes TonyRich arm in arm with ItalianYiddo - I do believe they are kissing. All's right with the world.
Love totty
11/12/2012 09:32:00
Its good that the squad has advanced in the EL, they have been working hard and playing a really busy schedule. I wonder how much this will take its toll later in the season? With the FA Cup on the way as well i think Levy will be wise to invest come Jan. I think we will. Oh Ade has played well in the games he has played, stretching teams and working hard up front. We want more goals, same as the other two but come on. Not exactly done sweet F A has he. You forgot to mention putting us in the lead Against Arsenal and the recent goal in the EL? COYS.
11/12/2012 09:33:00
Oh Merry Christmas ha
11/12/2012 09:45:00
The Spurs lads are getting into the spirit
11/12/2012 09:48:00
I think AVB's had the rub of the green so far, results do not reflect the performances we could quite easily have been in Newcastles current situation. We hvae got some big players coming back, i want to see Dempsey and siggy be more influencial, Dembele is class but needs a couple more goals. Need another striker from Jan thats about it, the team should be pretty much ready to start kicking on. I am expecting a strong finish this year, squad well rotated with some of them missing half of it. We will need other players scoring if we are going to have a crack at 3rd/4th.
11/12/2012 09:54:00
For me, the positives are that despite some poor performances and late goals conceeded we are still only goal difference away from a champions league place. We need to keep the ball better when we are leading and resist the temptation to drop deep towards the end of games. It's a mental thing and can be done. IMO there is not quite enough quality to sustain a top four/Europa League/FA Cup challenge in the new year. We are not far short and with some clever operating in January we will be well placed for a good second half of the season. But we must buy well (which we can do without spending a fortune) and not leave it until the last minute for players who do not fit AVB's philiosophy.
11/12/2012 10:04:00
a fair enough summary of our situation there. Overall we have been below par for us yet due to the league as a whole being pretty poor we are managing to stay afloat. However it is so bunched up we could either finish 4th or 11th. Our inability to hold leads is becoming legendary and has been happening for 30 years or more. Basically the jury is out still. We wont spend big in January but if Dawson is allowed to go and Gallas allowed to stay then i think there have to be some serious questions asked about what we are hoping to achieve by that.
11/12/2012 10:06:00
We only have a couple of midweek games between now and the end of February, this should help us out with getting players rested and fully recovered. We have a couple of key players to return to the team. As for the January window, I think we should do the business early although I'm not sure Mr Levy would agree with me!!
11/12/2012 10:07:00
We need to go all out for Llorente or Huntelaar. There is no reason NOT to buy one of those, and early. I think £10 million would probably do. It could well get us the £60million plus for CL qualification. I would have suggested the £7.5million needed for Demba Ba, but if he's gonna sod off to the Africa Cup of Nations then he's not much use. Does anyone know if BAE is likely to get fit and then be called to play for Cameroon?
11/12/2012 10:07:00
Fortress will come with the return of kaboul, BAE and parker. walker, kaboul, verts, BAE, sandro, parker... This will do. As long as we rely on Gallas, Dawson and Hudd we will concede goals.
11/12/2012 10:18:00
good summary of our situation. All in all, for me, mediocre to good start given the circumstances, although it could have been a whole lot better. Next 5 games will be key and then see where we are from there!
11/12/2012 10:21:00
I think the reviving of the Lane as a fortress again is key. This involves everyone, not just the players but the fans also in creating an atmosphere teams fear tyo go to.
11/12/2012 10:28:00
BAE/CAMEROON/ANCUP NO; ■Group A: S Africa, Cape Verde, Morocco, Angola ■Group B: Ghana, DR Congo, Niger, Mali ■Group C: Zambia, Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, Nigeria ■Group D: Ivory Coast, Algeria, Tunisia, Togo If Ade keeps to his word, he will remain with us during jan-feb
spu 4 life
11/12/2012 10:31:00
get Moutinho and llorente on January 1st and all will be good in the world!!!..;) we'll send a powerful message that we're up for it and the players still here will know to up their game as their at a top club, not a selling club...
11/12/2012 10:34:00
lol LT ill go with ur dream and stay out of this nightmare thanks...
11/12/2012 10:37:00
shedboy it sounds like the Moutinho deal is dead I'm afraid to say, and nothing positive has been said on any Llorente deal in January so I wouldn't hold your breath mate :( don't worry though, PLENTY of fish in the sea we just neeed to really give it a go.
11/12/2012 10:38:00
What ever happens, if at all in january's tranfer window, matters not, the only thing that concerns me is WINNING this coming sunday vs swansea, we are at home we have had a 7 day break to prepare and players who have been missing are taking steps forward to returning, AVB is doing in my eyes a grand job, his giving players the chance to show what they can do, if he thinks they are not upto the task, he will make changes, how many would have had the same chance under HR, Modric was always going regardless of the manager or coach, VDV has gone and his still having hamstring problems, we lost last season 1-0 at everton, so what's the difference to sunday, we still lost. Keep faith all will be good. COYS
spu 4 life
11/12/2012 10:47:00
hold on to the lead at arsenal down to 10 men after 19 mins come on ... lost points there but gained 3 at OT, where there is a minus there is a plus happy with season so far!
Aussie Yiddo
11/12/2012 10:47:00
spu4life based on what you have said then we surely have to get Demba Ba? If he aint at ACN £7.5 million for a proven Premier League goalscorer? No brainer...
11/12/2012 10:50:00
wiltshirespur- yeah I thought we had no chance of either....llorente off to Juve and Moutinho priced out of a move....but Porto may now realise we are the best chance for them to get a sizeable fee enabling them to make money and replace a player who wants out and Llorente may just be swayed by our pursuit, he's a pro and has hired his own staff to make sure he stays sharp whilst not playing...what do we think 25m for jou and 10 mil for llorente??....still I won't hold my breath...;)
11/12/2012 11:34:00
Llorente will definitely wont be coming to us(Juve).Maybe Huntelaar,He buries those chances and a decent LB and moutinho(If Levyboy decides to splash the cash,which he wont).A decent run till newyear and players will willing come to us at Jan!
11/12/2012 13:04:00
I'm not sure that any realistic fan can seriously argue that we have not had a decent first half of the season. People seem to think that AVB is supposed to walk into a new environment, new team, new bosses (with a huge media backlash in tow) and win more of less every game. As TopSpus13 points out the spine of our side (King/Kaboul/Parker/Modric/VdV) has been missing since last year. That is a HUGE loss to a man trying to build a rapport with the club, including us fans. Yet here we are in December, within touching distance of the CL places (having already visited alot of our historically 'no point' venues)and safely through to the Europa KO stages with a favourable next 5 games. I appreciate there are still alot of Harry lovers out there but do you honestly think he would have been able to recreate last years pre xmas form without the influential five players mentioned above? I personally dread to think about the likley replacements Harry would have been persuing! To be realistically linked with the likes of Moutinho / Willian shows not only how far Spurs have come but also that top players seriously think we will progress further under AVB. All in all, good start - crucial next 5 games (12 points required) and push on in January.
11/12/2012 13:29:00
Llorente has stated publicly (albeit a while ago) that he wants to play in the EPL so why won't he come to Spurs? He will no doubt attract big suitors but there is no reason why why we cannot sign him. Whether we will sign him is a completely different story!!!
11/12/2012 18:34:00
Oh the weather outside is frightful, but the fire is so delightful.......
11/12/2012 18:37:00
Striker please !!.......forget moutinho, £20 mill' on him, would be a waste of money. I agree with Big c...........walcott, would be a wise signing.
11/12/2012 18:55:00
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