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Who, When and Why? (The in's)

Who, When and Why? (The in's)

For someone who claims to dislike transfer windows, why do I feel a little like a kid in a sweetshop, when they open?

Firstly when I say dislike, I am probably lying to myself, as anyone who likes football, warts and all, has to take some pleasure in the rumours and speculation of who is moving, staying or simply the victim of a made up media. As a fan of the game, I dislike the timing of the windows, but that also perhaps fits in with a few timing niggles of the game itself. I wont get started on a winter break after Christmas and before the 3rd round of the Cup, that is for another day, perhaps. What seems to be interesting from a Tottenham perspective is that there seems to be a willingness to spend money, if the right players become available and there are plenty of names in the hat already, and many to get quite excited about.

I have stated several times, that although we need to improve and add depth in a few places, I am not chomping at the bit to buy players. If the right ones come along, brilliant! But I want the right players, not the wrong ones at the right time, if that makes any sense. Historically, Spurs have often bought the bright shiny thing, that might not fit well with what they have already and it has often ended in tears. Equally we have often struggled in getting the balance right between the today and tomorrow signing and in recent years and a Director of Football role, we have often appeared to have two people working to differing policies, something I have blamed Daniel Levy for instigating, though hopefully lessons have been learned.

Lets start with the stability of the club. Firstly Levy was either very brave or very stupid in the summer in sacking a man who had achieved good results, latterly on a tighter budget that we were used to. Appointing a ready made victim of the media in AVB and sacking its darling, Levy and Spurs were putting themselves firmly in the firing line and had the potential to be a laughing stock of the game. Six months later, I don't see anyone laughing but Tottenham fans, whilst no doubt Mr Levy is feeling quite smug and so he should be. As Coopsieyid quite rightly wrote earlier in the week, Caution was perhaps the order of the day in the summer. New man with a potential to make us look foolish at the helm, was perhaps not the time to rashly Spend! Spend! Spend!, money so painfully earned. Questions still remain over many or all of the summer signings and which were club buys and which were truly admired or wanted by AVB. Perhaps that is media mischief or the workings of a paranoid Spurs fans mind, but it is fair to say that all have either done well or at least not been turkeys (yet), whilst in already established players, it is fair to say that whilst one or two haven't quite hit previous levels, others have become different class.

So, if we haven't already agreed that AVB is the new messiah, we should be pretty close. As a fan of the game, I remember vividly talking about a certain Alex Ferguson being out of his depth at United and perhaps even them appointing Bryan Robson as manager. OH how stupid that looks today. AVB might still fall on his backside and be a huge failure, but even in some of his questionable decisions, it seems that most have looked inspired when hindsight kicks in. Aaron Lennon as captain! Hugo Lloris on the bench? Need I continue? Of course managers make mistakes, thats all part of the game, and I suppose aside from the ones that have the most money to spend, those that succeed are the ones that make the fewest errors. AVB seems to be a man who thinks things through and who has very clear ideas on what he wants and how to get it. Based on that, I feel quite comfortable that he wont look to waste the clubs money on quick fixes and will instead look at round pegs for similarly shaped holes.

January is always a difficult time to buy. Often players are overly priced, half fit, cup tied or carrying baggage. Perhaps therefore you only buy if a bargain or if you are absolutely desperate. Are we desperate? I don't think so, so is it bargains or buying when we have the chance, even if we don't have the need until the summer? With Carlo already flown to pastures new, Gomes on 'Holiday' we perhaps already have space for one or two new faces without worrying about squad numbers. Also you assume that if we bring in players, someone will be sold or loaned to cover some of the cost, though of course that is dependant on A) finding a buyer, and, b) retaining squad balance. Clearly you don't want to sell a player and leave yourselves short elsewhere. Many fans will be rejoicing at the return of Jermaine Jenas yesterday. Thats the midfield sorted then…

Defensively, I don't see much inward movement in January to be honest. With the return of BAE and the hopeful but delayed return of Kaboul, it seems we have quality and cover at the back. perhaps it is more a case of holding on to one or both of Gallas and Dawson, just in case we suffer any relapses to the returning players, and you don't feel we will lose anything significant on Dawson if we keep him until the summer, whilst Gallas could sign a pre contract deal now if he wished, as he is out of contract in the summer. Perhaps better safe than sorry. Again lets look at a new keeper as long term cover/competition for Lloris and perhaps sort the centre back issue at the same time, when players have longer to settle and are usually more willing to make a change. I read last night that there might be a bid for former United left back Eziekial Fryers, and if that is true, do we assume that BAE is going or Danny Rose isn't coming back?

In the middle of the park, we again look to this player to add creativity and spark to our midfield. Moutinho appears to be the one AVB has wanted, but the list of others seems endless. What perhaps interests me most is what tile we eventually go for. Do we want one to play deep, high or both? Perhaps we want that #playwherethehellyoulike individual? Maybe we are still looking at a deep lying playmaker AND someone to fill the hole behind a striker. After all we were supposedly looking at Willian AND Moutinho in the summer. will we do the same now, if the right players come along? Question is, have our targets changed and what are the better alternatives? Sandro and Dembele have been truly immense, but what and who comes in for Mousa when he is unfit? Tom Carroll aside, we lack obvious creativity without him in the middle, so do we need a new Modric, and even then does that mean the start of a change of system or regular rotation and changing roles?

In attack, It again seems apparent that we need another striker, whether as competition or as first choice. Adebayor has not lived up to last seasons try before we buy, and Defoe has done well, but is he the answer? AVB has again spoken of Leandro Damiao, whilst Fernando Llorente is available between now and the summer, should we be able to tempt either. Seemingly Internacional are feeling some financial strain, after failing to make the Copa Libertadordes and may be willing to sell or at least have to sell someone, but with God knows how many third party owners having a piece of the player, is this a deal that has had to be unravelled over past months, or will we again be frustrated at too many complications and an inflated value? As for Llorenthe, I have always had a gut feeling that he wont travel well and is a potential failure. I may be totally wrong, but I just have that feeling and I can't shake it. I also see the likes of Juve and several others offering serious competition in the summer as they see far less gamble on a Bosman free.

So, at some stage, it is a new keeper, new left back, one or two centre backs, a creative midfielder, a wide player, two if Bale leaves in the summer. Someone to play in the hole. a 30 goals a season superstar striker. All that and we surely win the title! Perhaps getting them all this month is too big an ask, but perhaps one or two of them is significant progress and that is good enough for me...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Thursday January 3 2013
Time: 12:03PM

Comments

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With talk of Damiao, I though it was a perfect excuse to use that pic again...
oxfordspur
03/01/2013 12:05:00
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Nice article Oxfordspur can always rely on you for a good quality in depth look at a subject. I really can't see us doing anything major this window. We really need a striker IMO. Adebayor as you said hasn't hit form for whatever reason (I think that's due to his lack of mental application) and a top club cannot survive with 2 strikers for a whole season. Let's hope Levy proves me wrong but previous transfer windows suggest otherwise.
jordtheyid
03/01/2013 12:19:00
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Looks like we might forget about Llorente! A statement by Bilbao read: "On January 3, 2013, Juventus have informed Athletic Club that, in the knowledge that Fernando Llorente will conclude his time with us on 30 June 2013, they will begin negotiations with the player to incorporate him in their squad."
oxfordspur
03/01/2013 12:20:00
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Probably no ins, unless Adebayor decides to go to ACN, then we may see a Levy trademark signing, this years version of Andy Booth, Gregor Rasiak, Frazer Campbell, or Louis Saha, you can forget about the Llorente or David Villa or Damiao of this world, we will plead poverty as usual.
Frank
03/01/2013 12:26:00
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I read somewhere this morning that Bilbao have released a statement saying Llorente has entered negotations with Juve over a summer transfer. I knew that Llorente was a long shot but id be suprised if we hadnt thrown our hat in the ring

Im trying not to get too excited this time as i cant really see us bringing anyone in who will make the difference. Maybe we will sign "one for the future" or a squad player but i just dont think we will get what we all know we need

Whether Ade goes to the ACN or not, he hasnt been anywhere near as influencial as last season, and although Defoe has been in fine form we desperately need another striker on the books. Im a tad worried that Defoe is going thorugh one of his spells, 1 goals in six games is it? The consolation is that he is working the keeper and looking sharp but its the back of the net that counts. I dont think we will get the Damaio or Willian that we all want, and as unbeleiveble as the tabloids may sound, a loan deal for Villa or a cheap deal for Rossi would be much more Levy's style.
hudderspur
03/01/2013 12:26:00
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when will Ade finally make his fecking mind up??? the first game kicks off on the 19th of this month. based on that, do we assume that this weekend could be his last game should he decide to honour the comp with his presence
oxfordspur
03/01/2013 12:28:00
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A) going to post we should sign a striker ffs B) going to post we need to sign moutinho C) going to post we need a new left back D) going to post we need to sign Moutinho Willian and Isco E) going to post (Frank) we will not sign anyone as Levy is a tight pood who has not spent in 100years and still hasn’t built stadium F) going to post (yidmarks) every single player he has seen on you tube and put it in lovely formation G) going to post (muttley) list of players we need to trim from our 501man squad cos of the mess harry made H) going to post (bigcook) need replace for lennon cos he is shat I) going to post we need a striker ffs J) going to post we need a young keeper K) I love Vital COYMFS!!! I have year end at work but what have i done catch up on Vital articles!
JattYid
03/01/2013 12:32:00
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Agree hudderspur - Long shot but any club can talk to him. The serie A leaders might tempt him but surely we can try as well? If its workable of course. Maybe don't see him as an option? Maybe he doesn't want to come to the PL, let alone us. i don't get it.
SpursOne2
03/01/2013 12:37:00
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I disagree with those saying we don't need any additions this January. We are in desperate need of a striker - even more so if Adebayor finally decides to go to the African Cup of Nations next week. If Juve are talking to Llorente then this is the ideal time for us to go and grab Vucinic and try to get Vidal from them also. That solves our striking and creative/forward thnking issues in one hit. Vucinic hasn't exactly been prolific this season but his hold up and link up play is fantastic. In the right team he will score goals and, perhaps more importantly, create a lot of space and opportunities for his attacking team mates. I also think Juve would allow him to leave this month. It may be harder to convince them to do the same with Vidal however.
SpuriousLife
03/01/2013 12:42:00
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The main problem I see with Moutinho transfer is, he may not want to move in jan given Porto are in CL last 16 and face Malaga, strong possibility to go to QF. Obviously, I assume that there is interest still in him from us. Suppose, if we cant get Moutinho in jan, then Holtby is a good option now.
sydqcb5
03/01/2013 12:44:00
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Ox, good article but I do object to this...."latterly on a tighter budget that we were used to." This is so untrue it's unbelievable. Levy took the expenses up in the year we got Champs League and left them there for the next 2 years. Salaries alone went up from £68m to £92m in that period and Harry ended up having more annual cash-flow than any manager we've ever had before him. It was Harry's choice. He could have operated with a smaller squad and had his money in large transfer fees. He wasn't smart enough to do that and just wasted Spurs money hand over fist. 13 players out and only 6 coming in the summer proved how sub-optimal we'd become under Harry especially as it still left another 5 or 6 players that we still need to shift just to get back to optimal.

Now Levy's taken action, we will be better for it. It wouldn't surprise me if we see one major signing this window. AVB seems comfortable working with a more compact squad leveraging the youngsters to plug the gaps. He's developing the cards he's been dealt but must know he needs one or two additions. Quality over quantity and a smaller squad has to be the way forward when you're the size of Spurs.
muttley
03/01/2013 12:49:00
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Ox - with you on that one, Ade and his Togo ANC going or not saga is starting to pi$$ me off, so i wonder how AVB feels or has AVB got is answer? Make your mind up it's simple YES OR NO.
spu 4 life
03/01/2013 12:49:00
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Spurious, I think we would all want to bring in a couple of players, but wouldnt we rather we wait for the right ones or ideal targets rather than just keep dropping down the list of options? How often in the past jhave we wanted a certain player, but have gone with plan D, E or F as the others werent available. I know this can happen to almost all teams, but are we really that desperate that we have to buy a compromise signing today, if our prime target is available in the summer?
oxfordspur
03/01/2013 12:49:00
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Ox, may be next time you should post video too .....

http://www.101greatgoals.com/other-sports/kid-gets-his-favorite-kind-of-candy-at-the-washington-wizards-atlanta-hawks-nba-game/
sydqcb5
03/01/2013 12:50:00
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muttley, just out of interest, who did Harry bring in last January?
oxfordspur
03/01/2013 12:51:00
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Option B on JatYids list should be priority. Ade should be backed with any decision, but he needs to make it sharpish ha. COYS.
SpursOne2
03/01/2013 12:51:00
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Pardew and his stature of the wee north east club another manager who has me grinding my teeth we he speaks, Steven Taylor is nearly fit, yes most likely the elastic around his shorts has been removed from under his arm pits.
spu 4 life
03/01/2013 12:53:00
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I think we only need one or two players TBH, like OX says in his article, Left back etc can wait until summer, a striker and a decent attacking midfielder / winger / creative genuis cannot. We surely arent going to make the same mistakes as the last three years? Thinking its plain sailing as we sit 3rd in january! If (most likley when) we lose bale in the summer, would it not be better to have his "replacement" at the club with half a season under his belt??
hudderspur
03/01/2013 12:54:00
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I get your point Ox. The problem from my perspective is that we once again run the risk of seeing the second half of our season suffer because we failed to invest something (anything) in January. If Ade goes off next week then we are left with only Defoe in our squad as a recognised striker. Irrelevant of the African Cup of Nations, if one of Ade or Defoe picks up a BAE or Kaboul style injury on the 1st of Feb and we haven't added a striker in January do you really believe we'll be able to score enough goals to finish in the top 4 this season? We've needed a striker for about 4 years so it's time for Levy to get us one this month. If he doesn't and we struggle to score goals during the rest of this season then Levy should have nowhere left to hide.
SpuriousLife
03/01/2013 12:56:00
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Muttley, perhaps it could be argued that most of Harry's deals were freebies or loans for the last three windows of his time at Spurs. I think after signing Steven Pienaar nearly two years ago, he only spent £5m on Parker as a senior player on a permanent deal. others like Adebayor, Nelsen, Saha and Friedel were all loans and free's. was that his choice or that of the board, understandably unwilling to fund a man who might not be there in a few months?
oxfordspur
03/01/2013 12:59:00
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My likes and In's this window would be a deal for Holtby, joining in the summer, unless he moves over in this window. And finally doing a solid deal for LEANDRO, IMO one of the top 6 strikers in the world, please get it sorted Levy. another in the summer, these two would be a step in the right direction.
spu 4 life
03/01/2013 12:59:00
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Ox - I think we all knew the answer to that. An old centre half who we would have loved earlier in his career and a spent force of a striker. Probably cost us £80-100k a week though in salaries between the pair of them. I assume that Brad for free and Parker for £6m in the summer was proof of our austerity. Let's be honest, the monster had well and truly been created by that point and our annual OPEX was running amok under Harry.
muttley
03/01/2013 12:59:00
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SpuriousLife, we do and playing domestic and european football will surely be a drain. I would agree we should ideally bring in players, but we have wasted so much cash and then struggled to offload players bought in haste and perhaps we have to look at the longer term over short termism, after all that was what we appointed AVB for wasnt it?
oxfordspur
03/01/2013 13:01:00
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As long as we don't end up with the likes of Saha and Nelsen it will be a successful window
jordtheyid
03/01/2013 13:04:00
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Again you're right Ox however I look at the January window as a better opportunity to get the right players we want as there tends to be less competition than that experiencd during the summer window. Maybe I'm just a glass half-full type of person but I can't see why we would pick the wrong player just because it's January. I'm sure AVB and his team have a list of targets based on their qualities and skills not on their availability in this particular window. If the list is agreed then there is no excuse in not trying to get them now. We shouldn't put off until tomorrow what we can do today. We've done that for too many windows already.
SpuriousLife
03/01/2013 13:06:00
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JJ is not good enough and last in a long line of squad players and that IMO includes Sandro who is IMO stand in for Parker. Defensively we are as good as I've ever known. We need flare and goals from the center of midfield and a scary forward especially with Ade's poor scoring form and the threat of ACN. We are just in the top 4 and we need to strengthen to consolidate that position or better it. Anyone who can't see that should watch American Football
SPUDMAN
03/01/2013 13:06:00
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At the end of the day if we target a player, who we think can help the current squad, and the current gaffa thinks he is good enough then we should get him. I do'nt give a ***** if its a loan, a player who some think are past it, if they come and do a job in the games we need them too, then we will get CL. just like last year with HARRY at the helm. Love how people slag these 'has been' players off when we still finished 4th. Time to have faith in the chairman and manager again?
SpursOne2
03/01/2013 13:08:00
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Haha JattYid...
ledders77
03/01/2013 13:08:00
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We need to avoid having to put out a team of squad players like we've had to in the past. Not that they are not great players, but individually they lack the spark of genius that can change a game - win a game. It's no good having 80% possession and losing or drawing.
SPUDMAN
03/01/2013 13:10:00
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MMMMMMMM!!!! That picture again, it's gonna get messy!!
olliewebb
03/01/2013 13:10:00
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Graet article. I don't beleive that January is the time for a major squad overhall but IMO with Premier League, Europa League and FA Cup committments we cannot afford not to add to the squad, a striker is the main priority considering Ade's committment issues. A flair midfielder would be nice too - let's see what happens. I would not expect anyone to come in who is still involved in Champions League but I am sure AVB has a list of attainable targets that would fit into his team structure. Come on Daniel Levy, now is the time to support your manager. On a separate matter I was initially an AVB sceptic and said so on this site but he is winning me over and I hope he is here for the long term. COYS
jonathan01
03/01/2013 13:11:00
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Parker and Friedel turned out to be inspired signings. Nelson and Saha doesnt matter how much people hated them, BOTH did a job for us with performances and goals. We finished 4th with them. This year Levy has raised the bar so we are expecting more, i think we are right to call for him to back AVB, but AVB had to have input.
SpursOne2
03/01/2013 13:13:00
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Spudman you have just relegated Sandro to a step above Jermaine Jenas!!!! Your assessment of Sandro is honestly, unbelieveable. Parker is now the cover player for Sandro who has been immense for us all season and probably the stand out candidate for Player of the Season. On a more positive note this is the first window in a long number of years where you look at our squad and there is only one area that needs addressing - the stirker department. All other areas can be comfortably left until the summer, including the midfield especially if we sign Hotlby on a pre-contract deal.
Slurms McKenzie
03/01/2013 13:14:00
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Sandro is great defensively but doesn't know the direction of the oppositions goal I've never seen so many sideways passes. Parker rules okay!!
SPUDMAN
03/01/2013 13:16:00
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PAH
SPUDMAN
03/01/2013 13:18:00
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The addition of any player has a significant knock on effect ont he youth development within our squad. AVB has been adept at introducing our younger players into the first team and giving them a chance to gain experience. With a bit more patience both Townsend and Falque could well become the cover and competition for our wing players.
Slurms McKenzie
03/01/2013 13:18:00
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Leandro damiao,hunch he will finelly turn up at the lane this window!holtby in the summer.
Little spur
03/01/2013 13:19:00
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Slurms ur right, Sandro is an absolute colossal in the middle, not many like him.
ledders77
03/01/2013 13:21:00
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If someone near Spudman please feel free to give him a slap
JattYid
03/01/2013 13:21:00
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Lewis Holtby looks a real prospect. Creative central midfielder.
asherthesmasher
03/01/2013 13:21:00
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Not Okay Spudman, Parker is no-ones idea of an attacking midfielder he is a body on the line break, up the play, midfield battler. Sandro can play with the ball at his feet, can tackle and win the ball and is an all round better footballer and talent then Parker. Parker is a great addition to the squad and hopefully he will allow Sandro to gain a well earned break but Sandro is a piviotal player for Spurs now and in my humble view our future Captain!
Slurms McKenzie
03/01/2013 13:22:00
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Slurms - What if Dembele gets injured? EL, FA cup games and the chase in the PL means a busy schedule. Can we rely on Hudds/Carrol to come in and consistently pull the strings?
SpursOne2
03/01/2013 13:22:00
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Agree with most above....regardless of Ade's decision, another quality striker is needed! I would also think seriously about a wide man such as Zaha. If we wait till bale leaves to bring in another explosive player, values to us will sky rocket, and Zaha may be warming Uniteds bench by then....get him now and start to offer lennon and Bale some rotation.
jhbspur
03/01/2013 13:23:00
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I concur that there's no point buying unless we get real quality. Most of us agree that an attacking midfielders is important yet weren't both Siggy and Dempsey bought to cover that role? If we're going to get a CAM we need to make sure that it is a real top class player. Same goes for striker, there's no point buying someone who's only on a par with Defoe or Ade (who may well not continue playing together if we get a better CAM and AVB can go back to 4-2-3-1 again.)
Kes80
03/01/2013 13:24:00
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Anyone bored? Chel$ea v QPR match report is on the Chavs page ;)
Tottenham Hotcore
03/01/2013 13:25:00
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I also wonder about defence. Many mentions made for back-up to BAE at left back, however, Walker has played almost every game this season in all comps yet no-one thinks he needs cover? For me, he needs a rest and perhaps Smith should be recalled or another RB brought in to cover.
jhbspur
03/01/2013 13:25:00
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Spudman - Sandro has been utterly outstanding this season. Even Parker knows he's going to struggle to displace him.
Kes80
03/01/2013 13:26:00
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What about Wilfried Zaha?! Young, strong, super skillful and can play both sides (and through the middle?) Looks a great buy, if not now, in the summer. Can someone that knows him well shed more light on him please... Isco would be another great buy but doubt he'd come.
ledders77
03/01/2013 13:26:00
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Last season we have paid the price for not strengthening the squad in January. I hope now Levy will show more ambition and he will buy at least one proper player. My choice would be Damiao. He can make the difference.
Ioan X
03/01/2013 13:26:00
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jhbspur - Kyle Naughton is a right back, he's been played out of position but he is actually the cover for Walker.
Kes80
03/01/2013 13:27:00
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SpursOne2 I'm not against signing a player who will improve our first team but I would have to echo Kes80's point. We already have cover in that area granted not what you would call competition but enough to see us through until the summer plus if the rumours of a pre-contract agreement with Hotlby are true then AVB and Levy would seem to be addressing this issue for the Summer. A striker who will covert on a regular bases teh chances we are currently creating is what the team really needs and more so if ADE does go to the ACN.
Slurms McKenzie
03/01/2013 13:28:00
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There is always (the impression of) a willingness to spend money. But I can go to Ferrari show rooms, make enquires, take a test drive but still find a silly reason not to buy one (like having a bank account that reads in the negative more than the positive all month).
Tottenham Hotcore
03/01/2013 13:29:00
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Slurms McKenzie & SPUDMAN - Sandro is a candidate for player of the season just as Parker was clearly last season's player of the season. No one is anyone's understudy yet. Parker has been injured, and hasn't even started a game yet to prove his worth under AVB. The only question is whose style does AVB prefer. Sandro has the advantage in that respect given that Parker was out of the picture for so long. However, unless Sandro is super-human, there is no way the guy can play from the final half of last season - through summer in Olympics - and throughout the following season! So Parker should have his chance. It is a squad game anyway...
TonyRich
03/01/2013 13:32:00
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JHBspur earlier in the season LB was my big area of concern especially with BAE being out injured, but by firstly using Verts and then Noughton to cover this position it should that we doo have enough cover in the defence. Smiths Loan deal with Milwall runs out on the 25th of this month and he is a spurs player once more. By then hopefully BAE has returned and we will effectively have Walker and Smith as RB and BAE and Noughton as LB I really don't see the need to spend money in this area any more. Ther credit for that goes to AVB.
Slurms McKenzie
03/01/2013 13:32:00
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@Kes80, i thought so initially, yet he was only used once there while Vert played at Left back? Surely if he was he could have been used a bit more..also considering walker was in poor form for a while.
jhbspur
03/01/2013 13:32:00
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Fair point well made Tonyrich.
Slurms McKenzie
03/01/2013 13:35:00
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Still I found it a little bit odd that I had to defend Sandro in an article for discussing possible transfer targets!
Slurms McKenzie
03/01/2013 13:36:00
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Slurms, if Smith is returning, i am also happy that no additional is needed at the back. Just the super stricker and wide man then...
jhbspur
03/01/2013 13:37:00
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that would be 'striker' ...
jhbspur
03/01/2013 13:37:00
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We signed half an XI in summer. We better NOT get many more. I'd say one, or maybe two tops. But I think we should not go for the spectacular here. I think one or two signings for the future. Ones that can cover (especially up front) and has the opportunity to ultimately replace the ageing Defoe and enigmatic Ade. To be more explicit: we need to sign a young striker with time on his side, patience, the right attitude, and the basic tools (pace, strength, skill, a shot) to potentially be a Premiership quality striker. Jan is not the ideal time to splash out on strikers, so we better go for the long term vision, rather than quick fix.
TonyRich
03/01/2013 13:37:00
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I'm absolutley sick of the Damiao rumours, A) Levy won't be ripped off by them B) He has 3rd party owners galore which massivley complicates any deal C) He's clearly holding out for a move to PSG or Russia imo for mega bucks D) If it was to happen it would have happened already. Its just tired journalism linking us with him, its reminding me of the Arshavin deal a few years ago.
HuddersfieldYiddo
03/01/2013 13:39:00
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If we want to get top 4, we need that scary forward now, and possibly Moutinho, (though understandable if he doesn't want to move till the summer). With the likes of Dempsey, Siggy... and Townsend & Falque as back up for Lennon and Bale, we can probably wait till the summer for that attacking mid/ winger e.g. Zaha, Isco, William... But without a new forward now, AVB will find it very hard to get top 4 this season.
ledders77
03/01/2013 13:40:00
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Slurms - They are rumours regarding that chap Holtby? The point I’m making is we have Defensive Midfield cover a plenty, Sigurddsson can cover the wings and the hole, same as Dempsey to a certain degree. We have Ade and Defoe who can play together or alone. Creative central midfield? One player mate. Not exactly the best cover. We wanted Moutinho for example and Dembele in summer? When Dembelewas out we have to try all sorts of different players to cope. If it happens again, we are into the second half of the season and up ***** creak probably. If we get in a quality creative player, to work with the team now then we will have that extra man. He has time to settle, get games, fight for a spot. If Ade goes to the AN then Yes, we are silly not to have cover and i then agree. But we don't know that yet?
SpursOne2
03/01/2013 13:40:00
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Ox, can we expect an article on the outs? Gomes, Jenas, Bentley, Thudd could free up some wage bill? We would need to find a charity case for the first 3 though...
jhbspur
03/01/2013 13:41:00
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Sandro is class and i thought most Spurs fans thought that from day one.
asherthesmasher
03/01/2013 13:41:00
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Why were Sturridge, Remy good enough for bids in August but no links now? Ba - cheap and proven. 2 options - 1) we have moved on to other targets as priced out or 2) we have some deals in place for Damaio / Willian. hope it is option 2. Remy seems worth a punt for the £10m Newcastle may pay as Willian is £17m?!
Wilts Spurs
03/01/2013 13:43:00
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My senitments exactly Tonyrich if we were to sign one standout striker in January I'd call the window a roaring success. Any transfer out then would be the icing ont he cake. Yea I feel the same way Huddersfield, time has long since passed to **** or get off the potty.
Slurms McKenzie
03/01/2013 13:44:00
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Huddersfieldyiddo...i tend to agree with you. Think that shipped sailed. Also, having watched alot of the olympics he reminded me alot of Berbatov..great touch and finish, but the work rate of a donkey off the ball. Do we really want a player like that? Look at qulity forwards like Rooney and Villa how have massive work rates when in defence and attack. Thst the kind of player i think AVB will want.
jhbspur
03/01/2013 13:44:00
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TonyRich, Sandro IS super-human :) (Like Bale). Ur "it's a squad game" logic still stands though, obviously... and having both Sandro and Parker suits us no end. Just need that alternative to Dembele and we'd have the best centre mid options in the Prem.
ledders77
03/01/2013 13:47:00
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If you noticed in the Reading game, that most of our team was signed young: Lennon as a teen, Daws, Siggy, Naughton, Walker, Sandro, initially Defoe all signed 23 and under. Plus Hudd, Falque and Livermore on the bench. Many of those are seasoned Spurs & Premiership players now. Spurs' long-term team building has been impressive, and it is no wonder that we are top four now. ...And I didn't even mention Bale, Kaboul (initially signed young), and BAE. Even Lloris & Vertonghen are mid-twenties. I'd say that we should continue in that vein. We should not need short-term fixes like Llorente or Villa - no matter how good they are.
TonyRich
03/01/2013 13:47:00
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Hudds is right about Leandro. The guy could pick a number of more world famous clubs than ours. Plus he can pick his price, as those guys are wanting to find the next best thing. We merely want a "very good thing". Which means that we should focus on a number of targets, and not just one.
TonyRich
03/01/2013 13:51:00
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@jhbspur - I think he only plays at LB because we lack cover. Whilst on loan at Norwich last season he played RB. I'm sure that his natural position although he is much improved now at LB than when AVB first played him there.
Kes80
03/01/2013 13:52:00
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On the subject of centre midfield, didn't Siggy play a deeper midfield role for Swansea last season? He seems to be picking up his game with some improving recent displays. If Dembele is injured or rested perhaps he could partner Sandro or Parker in the middle. Thoughts?
Kes80
03/01/2013 13:54:00
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Hope we don't look at Villa, he was quality but is 31 wanting a high wage over 3.5 years. no way he will be good enough in 2 years time and an injury risk. Let the gooners or 'pool take the risk. £16m can be better spent elsewhere imo.
Wilts Spurs
03/01/2013 13:54:00
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@TonyRich - Occassionally signing an old wise head can be a good thing. Parker made a huge difference for us last season and Gallas, whilst on the decline now, has done us good service. I certainly agree that buying youth is the best policy but you need experience in the squad as well and it's not always going to come in the form of players signed young who have grown up with the team (though of course that is preferable.)
Kes80
03/01/2013 13:57:00
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