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Who, When and Why? (The in's)

For someone who claims to dislike transfer windows, why do I feel a little like a kid in a sweetshop, when they open?

Firstly when I say dislike, I am probably lying to myself, as anyone who likes football, warts and all, has to take some pleasure in the rumours and speculation of who is moving, staying or simply the victim of a made up media. As a fan of the game, I dislike the timing of the windows, but that also perhaps fits in with a few timing niggles of the game itself. I wont get started on a winter break after Christmas and before the 3rd round of the Cup, that is for another day, perhaps. What seems to be interesting from a Tottenham perspective is that there seems to be a willingness to spend money, if the right players become available and there are plenty of names in the hat already, and many to get quite excited about.

I have stated several times, that although we need to improve and add depth in a few places, I am not chomping at the bit to buy players. If the right ones come along, brilliant! But I want the right players, not the wrong ones at the right time, if that makes any sense. Historically, Spurs have often bought the bright shiny thing, that might not fit well with what they have already and it has often ended in tears. Equally we have often struggled in getting the balance right between the today and tomorrow signing and in recent years and a Director of Football role, we have often appeared to have two people working to differing policies, something I have blamed Daniel Levy for instigating, though hopefully lessons have been learned.

Lets start with the stability of the club. Firstly Levy was either very brave or very stupid in the summer in sacking a man who had achieved good results, latterly on a tighter budget that we were used to. Appointing a ready made victim of the media in AVB and sacking its darling, Levy and Spurs were putting themselves firmly in the firing line and had the potential to be a laughing stock of the game. Six months later, I don't see anyone laughing but Tottenham fans, whilst no doubt Mr Levy is feeling quite smug and so he should be. As Coopsieyid quite rightly wrote earlier in the week, Caution was perhaps the order of the day in the summer. New man with a potential to make us look foolish at the helm, was perhaps not the time to rashly Spend! Spend! Spend!, money so painfully earned. Questions still remain over many or all of the summer signings and which were club buys and which were truly admired or wanted by AVB. Perhaps that is media mischief or the workings of a paranoid Spurs fans mind, but it is fair to say that all have either done well or at least not been turkeys (yet), whilst in already established players, it is fair to say that whilst one or two haven't quite hit previous levels, others have become different class.

So, if we haven't already agreed that AVB is the new messiah, we should be pretty close. As a fan of the game, I remember vividly talking about a certain Alex Ferguson being out of his depth at United and perhaps even them appointing Bryan Robson as manager. OH how stupid that looks today. AVB might still fall on his backside and be a huge failure, but even in some of his questionable decisions, it seems that most have looked inspired when hindsight kicks in. Aaron Lennon as captain! Hugo Lloris on the bench? Need I continue? Of course managers make mistakes, thats all part of the game, and I suppose aside from the ones that have the most money to spend, those that succeed are the ones that make the fewest errors. AVB seems to be a man who thinks things through and who has very clear ideas on what he wants and how to get it. Based on that, I feel quite comfortable that he wont look to waste the clubs money on quick fixes and will instead look at round pegs for similarly shaped holes.

January is always a difficult time to buy. Often players are overly priced, half fit, cup tied or carrying baggage. Perhaps therefore you only buy if a bargain or if you are absolutely desperate. Are we desperate? I don't think so, so is it bargains or buying when we have the chance, even if we don't have the need until the summer? With Carlo already flown to pastures new, Gomes on 'Holiday' we perhaps already have space for one or two new faces without worrying about squad numbers. Also you assume that if we bring in players, someone will be sold or loaned to cover some of the cost, though of course that is dependant on A) finding a buyer, and, b) retaining squad balance. Clearly you don't want to sell a player and leave yourselves short elsewhere. Many fans will be rejoicing at the return of Jermaine Jenas yesterday. Thats the midfield sorted then…

Defensively, I don't see much inward movement in January to be honest. With the return of BAE and the hopeful but delayed return of Kaboul, it seems we have quality and cover at the back. perhaps it is more a case of holding on to one or both of Gallas and Dawson, just in case we suffer any relapses to the returning players, and you don't feel we will lose anything significant on Dawson if we keep him until the summer, whilst Gallas could sign a pre contract deal now if he wished, as he is out of contract in the summer. Perhaps better safe than sorry. Again lets look at a new keeper as long term cover/competition for Lloris and perhaps sort the centre back issue at the same time, when players have longer to settle and are usually more willing to make a change. I read last night that there might be a bid for former United left back Eziekial Fryers, and if that is true, do we assume that BAE is going or Danny Rose isn't coming back?

In the middle of the park, we again look to this player to add creativity and spark to our midfield. Moutinho appears to be the one AVB has wanted, but the list of others seems endless. What perhaps interests me most is what tile we eventually go for. Do we want one to play deep, high or both? Perhaps we want that #playwherethehellyoulike individual? Maybe we are still looking at a deep lying playmaker AND someone to fill the hole behind a striker. After all we were supposedly looking at Willian AND Moutinho in the summer. will we do the same now, if the right players come along? Question is, have our targets changed and what are the better alternatives? Sandro and Dembele have been truly immense, but what and who comes in for Mousa when he is unfit? Tom Carroll aside, we lack obvious creativity without him in the middle, so do we need a new Modric, and even then does that mean the start of a change of system or regular rotation and changing roles?

In attack, It again seems apparent that we need another striker, whether as competition or as first choice. Adebayor has not lived up to last seasons try before we buy, and Defoe has done well, but is he the answer? AVB has again spoken of Leandro Damiao, whilst Fernando Llorente is available between now and the summer, should we be able to tempt either. Seemingly Internacional are feeling some financial strain, after failing to make the Copa Libertadordes and may be willing to sell or at least have to sell someone, but with God knows how many third party owners having a piece of the player, is this a deal that has had to be unravelled over past months, or will we again be frustrated at too many complications and an inflated value? As for Llorenthe, I have always had a gut feeling that he wont travel well and is a potential failure. I may be totally wrong, but I just have that feeling and I can't shake it. I also see the likes of Juve and several others offering serious competition in the summer as they see far less gamble on a Bosman free.

So, at some stage, it is a new keeper, new left back, one or two centre backs, a creative midfielder, a wide player, two if Bale leaves in the summer. Someone to play in the hole. a 30 goals a season superstar striker. All that and we surely win the title! Perhaps getting them all this month is too big an ask, but perhaps one or two of them is significant progress and that is good enough for me...




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Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday January 3 2013

Time: 12:03PM

Your Comments

With talk of Damiao, I though it was a perfect excuse to use that pic again...
oxfordspur
Nice article Oxfordspur can always rely on you for a good quality in depth look at a subject. I really can't see us doing anything major this window. We really need a striker IMO. Adebayor as you said hasn't hit form for whatever reason (I think that's due to his lack of mental application) and a top club cannot survive with 2 strikers for a whole season. Let's hope Levy proves me wrong but previous transfer windows suggest otherwise.
jordtheyid
Looks like we might forget about Llorente! A statement by Bilbao read: "On January 3, 2013, Juventus have informed Athletic Club that, in the knowledge that Fernando Llorente will conclude his time with us on 30 June 2013, they will begin negotiations with the player to incorporate him in their squad."
oxfordspur
Probably no ins, unless Adebayor decides to go to ACN, then we may see a Levy trademark signing, this years version of Andy Booth, Gregor Rasiak, Frazer Campbell, or Louis Saha, you can forget about the Llorente or David Villa or Damiao of this world, we will plead poverty as usual.
Frank
I read somewhere this morning that Bilbao have released a statement saying Llorente has entered negotations with Juve over a summer transfer. I knew that Llorente was a long shot but id be suprised if we hadnt thrown our hat in the ring

Im trying not to get too excited this time as i cant really see us bringing anyone in who will make the difference. Maybe we will sign "one for the future" or a squad player but i just dont think we will get what we all know we need

Whether Ade goes to the ACN or not, he hasnt been anywhere near as influencial as last season, and although Defoe has been in fine form we desperately need another striker on the books. Im a tad worried that Defoe is going thorugh one of his spells, 1 goals in six games is it? The consolation is that he is working the keeper and looking sharp but its the back of the net that counts. I dont think we will get the Damaio or Willian that we all want, and as unbeleiveble as the tabloids may sound, a loan deal for Villa or a cheap deal for Rossi would be much more Levy's style.
hudderspur
when will Ade finally make his fecking mind up??? the first game kicks off on the 19th of this month. based on that, do we assume that this weekend could be his last game should he decide to honour the comp with his presence
oxfordspur
A) going to post we should sign a striker ffs B) going to post we need to sign moutinho C) going to post we need a new left back D) going to post we need to sign Moutinho Willian and Isco E) going to post (Frank) we will not sign anyone as Levy is a tight pood who has not spent in 100years and still hasn’t built stadium F) going to post (yidmarks) every single player he has seen on you tube and put it in lovely formation G) going to post (muttley) list of players we need to trim from our 501man squad cos of the mess harry made H) going to post (bigcook) need replace for lennon cos he is shat I) going to post we need a striker ffs J) going to post we need a young keeper K) I love Vital COYMFS!!! I have year end at work but what have i done catch up on Vital articles!
JattYid
Agree hudderspur - Long shot but any club can talk to him. The serie A leaders might tempt him but surely we can try as well? If its workable of course. Maybe don't see him as an option? Maybe he doesn't want to come to the PL, let alone us. i don't get it.
SpursOne2
I disagree with those saying we don't need any additions this January. We are in desperate need of a striker - even more so if Adebayor finally decides to go to the African Cup of Nations next week. If Juve are talking to Llorente then this is the ideal time for us to go and grab Vucinic and try to get Vidal from them also. That solves our striking and creative/forward thnking issues in one hit. Vucinic hasn't exactly been prolific this season but his hold up and link up play is fantastic. In the right team he will score goals and, perhaps more importantly, create a lot of space and opportunities for his attacking team mates. I also think Juve would allow him to leave this month. It may be harder to convince them to do the same with Vidal however.
SpuriousLife
The main problem I see with Moutinho transfer is, he may not want to move in jan given Porto are in CL last 16 and face Malaga, strong possibility to go to QF. Obviously, I assume that there is interest still in him from us. Suppose, if we cant get Moutinho in jan, then Holtby is a good option now.
sydqcb5
Ox - with you on that one, Ade and his Togo ANC going or not saga is starting to pi$$ me off, so i wonder how AVB feels or has AVB got is answer? Make your mind up it's simple YES OR NO.
spu 4 life
Spurious, I think we would all want to bring in a couple of players, but wouldnt we rather we wait for the right ones or ideal targets rather than just keep dropping down the list of options? How often in the past jhave we wanted a certain player, but have gone with plan D, E or F as the others werent available. I know this can happen to almost all teams, but are we really that desperate that we have to buy a compromise signing today, if our prime target is available in the summer?
oxfordspur
Ox, good article but I do object to this...."latterly on a tighter budget that we were used to." This is so untrue it's unbelievable. Levy took the expenses up in the year we got Champs League and left them there for the next 2 years. Salaries alone went up from £68m to £92m in that period and Harry ended up having more annual cash-flow than any manager we've ever had before him. It was Harry's choice. He could have operated with a smaller squad and had his money in large transfer fees. He wasn't smart enough to do that and just wasted Spurs money hand over fist. 13 players out and only 6 coming in the summer proved how sub-optimal we'd become under Harry especially as it still left another 5 or 6 players that we still need to shift just to get back to optimal.

Now Levy's taken action, we will be better for it. It wouldn't surprise me if we see one major signing this window. AVB seems comfortable working with a more compact squad leveraging the youngsters to plug the gaps. He's developing the cards he's been dealt but must know he needs one or two additions. Quality over quantity and a smaller squad has to be the way forward when you're the size of Spurs.
muttley
Ox, may be next time you should post video too .....

http://www.101greatgoals.com/other-sports/kid-gets-his-favorite-kind-of-candy-at-the-washington-wizards-atlanta-hawks-nba-game/
sydqcb5
muttley, just out of interest, who did Harry bring in last January?
oxfordspur
Option B on JatYids list should be priority. Ade should be backed with any decision, but he needs to make it sharpish ha. COYS.
SpursOne2
Pardew and his stature of the wee north east club another manager who has me grinding my teeth we he speaks, Steven Taylor is nearly fit, yes most likely the elastic around his shorts has been removed from under his arm pits.
spu 4 life
I think we only need one or two players TBH, like OX says in his article, Left back etc can wait until summer, a striker and a decent attacking midfielder / winger / creative genuis cannot. We surely arent going to make the same mistakes as the last three years? Thinking its plain sailing as we sit 3rd in january! If (most likley when) we lose bale in the summer, would it not be better to have his "replacement" at the club with half a season under his belt??
hudderspur
I get your point Ox. The problem from my perspective is that we once again run the risk of seeing the second half of our season suffer because we failed to invest something (anything) in January. If Ade goes off next week then we are left with only Defoe in our squad as a recognised striker. Irrelevant of the African Cup of Nations, if one of Ade or Defoe picks up a BAE or Kaboul style injury on the 1st of Feb and we haven't added a striker in January do you really believe we'll be able to score enough goals to finish in the top 4 this season? We've needed a striker for about 4 years so it's time for Levy to get us one this month. If he doesn't and we struggle to score goals during the rest of this season then Levy should have nowhere left to hide.
SpuriousLife
Muttley, perhaps it could be argued that most of Harry's deals were freebies or loans for the last three windows of his time at Spurs. I think after signing Steven Pienaar nearly two years ago, he only spent £5m on Parker as a senior player on a permanent deal. others like Adebayor, Nelsen, Saha and Friedel were all loans and free's. was that his choice or that of the board, understandably unwilling to fund a man who might not be there in a few months?
oxfordspur
My likes and In's this window would be a deal for Holtby, joining in the summer, unless he moves over in this window. And finally doing a solid deal for LEANDRO, IMO one of the top 6 strikers in the world, please get it sorted Levy. another in the summer, these two would be a step in the right direction.
spu 4 life
Ox - I think we all knew the answer to that. An old centre half who we would have loved earlier in his career and a spent force of a striker. Probably cost us £80-100k a week though in salaries between the pair of them. I assume that Brad for free and Parker for £6m in the summer was proof of our austerity. Let's be honest, the monster had well and truly been created by that point and our annual OPEX was running amok under Harry.
muttley
SpuriousLife, we do and playing domestic and european football will surely be a drain. I would agree we should ideally bring in players, but we have wasted so much cash and then struggled to offload players bought in haste and perhaps we have to look at the longer term over short termism, after all that was what we appointed AVB for wasnt it?
oxfordspur
As long as we don't end up with the likes of Saha and Nelsen it will be a successful window
jordtheyid
JJ is not good enough and last in a long line of squad players and that IMO includes Sandro who is IMO stand in for Parker. Defensively we are as good as I've ever known. We need flare and goals from the center of midfield and a scary forward especially with Ade's poor scoring form and the threat of ACN. We are just in the top 4 and we need to strengthen to consolidate that position or better it. Anyone who can't see that should watch American Football
SPUDMAN
Again you're right Ox however I look at the January window as a better opportunity to get the right players we want as there tends to be less competition than that experiencd during the summer window. Maybe I'm just a glass half-full type of person but I can't see why we would pick the wrong player just because it's January. I'm sure AVB and his team have a list of targets based on their qualities and skills not on their availability in this particular window. If the list is agreed then there is no excuse in not trying to get them now. We shouldn't put off until tomorrow what we can do today. We've done that for too many windows already.
SpuriousLife
At the end of the day if we target a player, who we think can help the current squad, and the current gaffa thinks he is good enough then we should get him. I do'nt give a ***** if its a loan, a player who some think are past it, if they come and do a job in the games we need them too, then we will get CL. just like last year with HARRY at the helm. Love how people slag these 'has been' players off when we still finished 4th. Time to have faith in the chairman and manager again?
SpursOne2
Haha JattYid...
ledders77
We need to avoid having to put out a team of squad players like we've had to in the past. Not that they are not great players, but individually they lack the spark of genius that can change a game - win a game. It's no good having 80% possession and losing or drawing.
SPUDMAN
MMMMMMMM!!!! That picture again, it's gonna get messy!!
olliewebb
Graet article. I don't beleive that January is the time for a major squad overhall but IMO with Premier League, Europa League and FA Cup committments we cannot afford not to add to the squad, a striker is the main priority considering Ade's committment issues. A flair midfielder would be nice too - let's see what happens. I would not expect anyone to come in who is still involved in Champions League but I am sure AVB has a list of attainable targets that would fit into his team structure. Come on Daniel Levy, now is the time to support your manager. On a separate matter I was initially an AVB sceptic and said so on this site but he is winning me over and I hope he is here for the long term. COYS
jonathan01
Parker and Friedel turned out to be inspired signings. Nelson and Saha doesnt matter how much people hated them, BOTH did a job for us with performances and goals. We finished 4th with them. This year Levy has raised the bar so we are expecting more, i think we are right to call for him to back AVB, but AVB had to have input.
SpursOne2
Spudman you have just relegated Sandro to a step above Jermaine Jenas!!!! Your assessment of Sandro is honestly, unbelieveable. Parker is now the cover player for Sandro who has been immense for us all season and probably the stand out candidate for Player of the Season. On a more positive note this is the first window in a long number of years where you look at our squad and there is only one area that needs addressing - the stirker department. All other areas can be comfortably left until the summer, including the midfield especially if we sign Hotlby on a pre-contract deal.
Slurms McKenzie
Sandro is great defensively but doesn't know the direction of the oppositions goal I've never seen so many sideways passes. Parker rules okay!!
SPUDMAN
PAH
SPUDMAN
The addition of any player has a significant knock on effect ont he youth development within our squad. AVB has been adept at introducing our younger players into the first team and giving them a chance to gain experience. With a bit more patience both Townsend and Falque could well become the cover and competition for our wing players.
Slurms McKenzie
Leandro damiao,hunch he will finelly turn up at the lane this window!holtby in the summer.
Little spur
Slurms ur right, Sandro is an absolute colossal in the middle, not many like him.
ledders77
If someone near Spudman please feel free to give him a slap
JattYid
Lewis Holtby looks a real prospect. Creative central midfielder.
asherthesmasher
Not Okay Spudman, Parker is no-ones idea of an attacking midfielder he is a body on the line break, up the play, midfield battler. Sandro can play with the ball at his feet, can tackle and win the ball and is an all round better footballer and talent then Parker. Parker is a great addition to the squad and hopefully he will allow Sandro to gain a well earned break but Sandro is a piviotal player for Spurs now and in my humble view our future Captain!
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms - What if Dembele gets injured? EL, FA cup games and the chase in the PL means a busy schedule. Can we rely on Hudds/Carrol to come in and consistently pull the strings?
SpursOne2
Agree with most above....regardless of Ade's decision, another quality striker is needed! I would also think seriously about a wide man such as Zaha. If we wait till bale leaves to bring in another explosive player, values to us will sky rocket, and Zaha may be warming Uniteds bench by then....get him now and start to offer lennon and Bale some rotation.
jhbspur
I concur that there's no point buying unless we get real quality. Most of us agree that an attacking midfielders is important yet weren't both Siggy and Dempsey bought to cover that role? If we're going to get a CAM we need to make sure that it is a real top class player. Same goes for striker, there's no point buying someone who's only on a par with Defoe or Ade (who may well not continue playing together if we get a better CAM and AVB can go back to 4-2-3-1 again.)
Kes80
Anyone bored? Chel$ea v QPR match report is on the Chavs page ;)
Tottenham Hotcore
I also wonder about defence. Many mentions made for back-up to BAE at left back, however, Walker has played almost every game this season in all comps yet no-one thinks he needs cover? For me, he needs a rest and perhaps Smith should be recalled or another RB brought in to cover.
jhbspur
Spudman - Sandro has been utterly outstanding this season. Even Parker knows he's going to struggle to displace him.
Kes80
What about Wilfried Zaha?! Young, strong, super skillful and can play both sides (and through the middle?) Looks a great buy, if not now, in the summer. Can someone that knows him well shed more light on him please... Isco would be another great buy but doubt he'd come.
ledders77
Last season we have paid the price for not strengthening the squad in January. I hope now Levy will show more ambition and he will buy at least one proper player. My choice would be Damiao. He can make the difference.
Ioan X
jhbspur - Kyle Naughton is a right back, he's been played out of position but he is actually the cover for Walker.
Kes80
SpursOne2 I'm not against signing a player who will improve our first team but I would have to echo Kes80's point. We already have cover in that area granted not what you would call competition but enough to see us through until the summer plus if the rumours of a pre-contract agreement with Hotlby are true then AVB and Levy would seem to be addressing this issue for the Summer. A striker who will covert on a regular bases teh chances we are currently creating is what the team really needs and more so if ADE does go to the ACN.
Slurms McKenzie
There is always (the impression of) a willingness to spend money. But I can go to Ferrari show rooms, make enquires, take a test drive but still find a silly reason not to buy one (like having a bank account that reads in the negative more than the positive all month).
Tottenham Hotcore
Slurms McKenzie & SPUDMAN - Sandro is a candidate for player of the season just as Parker was clearly last season's player of the season. No one is anyone's understudy yet. Parker has been injured, and hasn't even started a game yet to prove his worth under AVB. The only question is whose style does AVB prefer. Sandro has the advantage in that respect given that Parker was out of the picture for so long. However, unless Sandro is super-human, there is no way the guy can play from the final half of last season - through summer in Olympics - and throughout the following season! So Parker should have his chance. It is a squad game anyway...
TonyRich
@Kes80, i thought so initially, yet he was only used once there while Vert played at Left back? Surely if he was he could have been used a bit more..also considering walker was in poor form for a while.
jhbspur
JHBspur earlier in the season LB was my big area of concern especially with BAE being out injured, but by firstly using Verts and then Noughton to cover this position it should that we doo have enough cover in the defence. Smiths Loan deal with Milwall runs out on the 25th of this month and he is a spurs player once more. By then hopefully BAE has returned and we will effectively have Walker and Smith as RB and BAE and Noughton as LB I really don't see the need to spend money in this area any more. Ther credit for that goes to AVB.
Slurms McKenzie
Fair point well made Tonyrich.
Slurms McKenzie
Still I found it a little bit odd that I had to defend Sandro in an article for discussing possible transfer targets!
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms, if Smith is returning, i am also happy that no additional is needed at the back. Just the super stricker and wide man then...
jhbspur
that would be 'striker' ...
jhbspur
We signed half an XI in summer. We better NOT get many more. I'd say one, or maybe two tops. But I think we should not go for the spectacular here. I think one or two signings for the future. Ones that can cover (especially up front) and has the opportunity to ultimately replace the ageing Defoe and enigmatic Ade. To be more explicit: we need to sign a young striker with time on his side, patience, the right attitude, and the basic tools (pace, strength, skill, a shot) to potentially be a Premiership quality striker. Jan is not the ideal time to splash out on strikers, so we better go for the long term vision, rather than quick fix.
TonyRich
I'm absolutley sick of the Damiao rumours, A) Levy won't be ripped off by them B) He has 3rd party owners galore which massivley complicates any deal C) He's clearly holding out for a move to PSG or Russia imo for mega bucks D) If it was to happen it would have happened already. Its just tired journalism linking us with him, its reminding me of the Arshavin deal a few years ago.
HuddersfieldYiddo
If we want to get top 4, we need that scary forward now, and possibly Moutinho, (though understandable if he doesn't want to move till the summer). With the likes of Dempsey, Siggy... and Townsend & Falque as back up for Lennon and Bale, we can probably wait till the summer for that attacking mid/ winger e.g. Zaha, Isco, William... But without a new forward now, AVB will find it very hard to get top 4 this season.
ledders77
Slurms - They are rumours regarding that chap Holtby? The point I’m making is we have Defensive Midfield cover a plenty, Sigurddsson can cover the wings and the hole, same as Dempsey to a certain degree. We have Ade and Defoe who can play together or alone. Creative central midfield? One player mate. Not exactly the best cover. We wanted Moutinho for example and Dembele in summer? When Dembelewas out we have to try all sorts of different players to cope. If it happens again, we are into the second half of the season and up ***** creak probably. If we get in a quality creative player, to work with the team now then we will have that extra man. He has time to settle, get games, fight for a spot. If Ade goes to the AN then Yes, we are silly not to have cover and i then agree. But we don't know that yet?
SpursOne2
Ox, can we expect an article on the outs? Gomes, Jenas, Bentley, Thudd could free up some wage bill? We would need to find a charity case for the first 3 though...
jhbspur
Sandro is class and i thought most Spurs fans thought that from day one.
asherthesmasher
Why were Sturridge, Remy good enough for bids in August but no links now? Ba - cheap and proven. 2 options - 1) we have moved on to other targets as priced out or 2) we have some deals in place for Damaio / Willian. hope it is option 2. Remy seems worth a punt for the £10m Newcastle may pay as Willian is £17m?!
Wilts Spurs
Huddersfieldyiddo...i tend to agree with you. Think that shipped sailed. Also, having watched alot of the olympics he reminded me alot of Berbatov..great touch and finish, but the work rate of a donkey off the ball. Do we really want a player like that? Look at qulity forwards like Rooney and Villa how have massive work rates when in defence and attack. Thst the kind of player i think AVB will want.
jhbspur
My senitments exactly Tonyrich if we were to sign one standout striker in January I'd call the window a roaring success. Any transfer out then would be the icing ont he cake. Yea I feel the same way Huddersfield, time has long since passed to **** or get off the potty.
Slurms McKenzie
If you noticed in the Reading game, that most of our team was signed young: Lennon as a teen, Daws, Siggy, Naughton, Walker, Sandro, initially Defoe all signed 23 and under. Plus Hudd, Falque and Livermore on the bench. Many of those are seasoned Spurs & Premiership players now. Spurs' long-term team building has been impressive, and it is no wonder that we are top four now. ...And I didn't even mention Bale, Kaboul (initially signed young), and BAE. Even Lloris & Vertonghen are mid-twenties. I'd say that we should continue in that vein. We should not need short-term fixes like Llorente or Villa - no matter how good they are.
TonyRich
TonyRich, Sandro IS super-human :) (Like Bale). Ur "it's a squad game" logic still stands though, obviously... and having both Sandro and Parker suits us no end. Just need that alternative to Dembele and we'd have the best centre mid options in the Prem.
ledders77
Hudds is right about Leandro. The guy could pick a number of more world famous clubs than ours. Plus he can pick his price, as those guys are wanting to find the next best thing. We merely want a "very good thing". Which means that we should focus on a number of targets, and not just one.
TonyRich
@jhbspur - I think he only plays at LB because we lack cover. Whilst on loan at Norwich last season he played RB. I'm sure that his natural position although he is much improved now at LB than when AVB first played him there.
Kes80
On the subject of centre midfield, didn't Siggy play a deeper midfield role for Swansea last season? He seems to be picking up his game with some improving recent displays. If Dembele is injured or rested perhaps he could partner Sandro or Parker in the middle. Thoughts?
Kes80
Hope we don't look at Villa, he was quality but is 31 wanting a high wage over 3.5 years. no way he will be good enough in 2 years time and an injury risk. Let the gooners or 'pool take the risk. £16m can be better spent elsewhere imo.
Wilts Spurs
@TonyRich - Occassionally signing an old wise head can be a good thing. Parker made a huge difference for us last season and Gallas, whilst on the decline now, has done us good service. I certainly agree that buying youth is the best policy but you need experience in the squad as well and it's not always going to come in the form of players signed young who have grown up with the team (though of course that is preferable.)
Kes80
Block D I hope your ITK hasn't got things a bit awry and it is Bosingwa who is coming here from QPR cz he was an international player so that makes him a Portugal player.
chrishove123
Kes80 - It would have been nice to see Siggy in that role maybe in the EL not so long ago, we favored Carroll and Hudds then thou? Hes improving imo, could work if AVB has faith.
SpursOne2
I have no hope that we can sign Leandro. I don't know who we can get but i think the winger Willian is a more realistic target. Even David Villa would be more realistic but not at the price Barca want.
asherthesmasher
Kes80, I think ur right... often thought Siggy could play some home games in the middle, to help unlock teams parking the bus... he's got a good through-ball on him, intelligent player I think. And definitely one to keep and develop as he's still quite young. Naughton IS a right-back.
ledders77
Oh this does my heart good. A great laugh at his expense. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/9777470/Luka-Modric-admits-to-struggling-at-Real-Madrid-after-being-voted-worst-La-Liga-signing-of-the-season.html
chrishove123
Any thoughts on Zaha?
ledders77
Plenty ledders, Plenty
Slurms McKenzie
So if we did consider Siggy in a deeper role then Moutinho looks like something of an expensive luxury given that we do not have limitless supplies of cash to throw about. I really rate the guy but it doesn't seem like the best way to spend what we have available.
Kes80
Chris, lovely article, made my day. Why do these players get too big for their boots and think the grass is always greener? He was happy, enjoying his football, adored by the fans, had more money than he could ever spend and would have been a Spurs legend up there with Hoddle. Now he's second rate, warming the Madrid bench and getting pelters in the Spanish press. Good riddance, the selfish prat.
StillRickyVilla
ledders77 would be nice
chrishove123
Kes80 - Luxury? You got that right. Hes quality! 3 forwards on the books, and 1 creative midfielder. I know where i would spend my money anyway.
SpursOne2
TonyRich, you are right - the last couple of years success was a culmination of the policy instigated by Arnesen and then Commolli. On the face of it and to the casual observer, Redknapp performed miracles - but that just simply was not the case - he was riding on the back of all the good work from 2004 - and as Muttley points out - Redknapp was actually destroying all that good work by stock-piling players, higher overall squad wages and an ever increasing squad age-profile. I suspect AVB was brought in to help bring back the Arnesen/Commolli transfer policy of constantly building for the future - finding the next Modric, Bale etc BEFORE they are famous - the only way we can compete with ENIC as owners. Put it this way, i don't want to see any more Gallas, Nelson, Saha or even Parker signings this January.
StillRickyVilla
Kes80, Siggy could only play a few games there. We'd still need Moutinho/ Dembele level player against most teams. Moutinho at 26 ain't bad at all. His best 3 or 4 years are coming up.
ledders77
After this little training ground incident Mario Balotelli is definitely gone. Any one think that if AVB could sort him out he would be any good for us. ........ http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/manchester-city/9778119/Manchester-City-striker-Mario-Balotelli-clashes-with-manager-Roberto-Mancini-on-training-ground.html
chrishove123
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8378553/Croatia-midfielder-Anas-Sharbini-is-wanted-by-Tottenham-according-to-his-agent
Critical_Spur
We need a striker...defoe and Ade are long in the tooth so it's reasonable to suggest we need a guy 27 or younger....but we need a player who is proven......a great time to take a Brazilian as well!...
shedboy2
Huddersfield, I hear what you are saying on Leandro, but the fact is it has all been media driven, until now. There has always been interest from our part, but, like with Sandro for the first year, there was never an indication from the player, the agent or the parent club, that they were looking to do anything. Leandro has now apparently indicated that he is now willing to move on to further his career. Internacionale are in some financial stress, so the need to realize some assets is there. And, most importantly, Inter, AC, Spurs, Chelsea, Barca, RM and others have all scouted him quite a bit. Since we can match any offer, Internacionale will not be in any hurry to sell to us because they will want to ramp the price up as much as possible. Personally, beyond 25M would be too much. He's a very good talent and largely what we need. That said, he's just a guy. There are lots of guys. Dzagoev, Willian, Kostas Mitroglou, Luc Castaignos, Isco, Eriksson, Holtby could all add goals and creativity to our current setup. I will say this though, we must get a striker who can get on the end of all of the crosses that are supplied every game. That is where we miss out. We need a power forward. Doumbia, to me, seems to be more and more the player we need. For the system and just for his raw talent. COYS
peterballb
chrishove, there will be quite a bit of discontent at City. Balotelli is only the start. No Europe. Out of the League Cup. If they drop out of the FA Cup and continue to trail ManU, their will be discontent galore. I also can't see how their financials will get even close to meeting the FFPR.

Would I sign Balotelli? He's a prodigious talent and I believe he is just not suited to a position where he is one of the options. He needs to be "the option". I believe his contract would fit within our salary structure. He has poor impulse control. Really does not seem to do much to make those around him better, but can score a goal out of nothing. He's also very young. The question is, what would he cost and can he fit in to our system? He won't be on a free. They paid 22.5M or more for him. I've got to believe it will cost us at least 15M plus 100k/week for five years. I'd rather use that money to buy and pay Leandro or Doumbia. Or take the 15M and get both Castaignos and Mitroglou.

We are building a team here that can cmpete for titles. Any player who will not buy in to that need not be considered. COYS
peterballb
Holtby in the summer would be an immediate boost to the squad/team. And given his age, ability, profile, and sell-on value has 'Levy Signing' written all over him. He's no world-beater (yet), but offers great cover/quality in a couple of positions. And whilst I'll admit to only seeing him in the odd game, I'd welcome him with open arms. My concern, along with many/most on here, is up top. We were crippled last season when we failed to capitalise on, and consolidate a wonderful position in January by boosting our firepower. I didn't want Adebayor in the summer, and I've seen nothing to convince me that my fears and doubts were unfounded. I shudder to think what we're paying him. But he's looked lazy, his goals per minute ratio is (I'm guessing) woeful, and his refusal to commit to either us or the ACN shows the arrogance and attitude that has blotted his whole career. More worryingly, I don't see us being able to move him on anytime soon due to his age, and as I said his salary. As it stands, I really don't see any logical argument for waiting until the Summer to spend when we need it now the most. Defoe has withered recently (understandably), and is showing the signs of having to carry a forward line for a full season. He need help, he needs competition, and we'll need goals. If breaking our transfer record now would consolidate a top four (3rd maybe?!) finish then it's surely money very well spent. Any one of Doumbia, Damiao, Muller, or Lamella would do the trick. With the added bonus of the latter two being able to offer great cover away from the CF/Striker role. We are Tottenham, and the last time I checked, to dare was to fu%@ing do!!! Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
SpursOne2 - I would count Siggy as a creative midfielder and I believe we need an 'in the hole' creative midfielder as well, more so than a deep lying one. Then we would have 3 creative midfielders. I think Siggy needs to be given a whole season before we write him off. He's still young and has been improving.
Kes80
Out of interest how much do people *really* think that we have available to spend?
Kes80
Kes80 - That cool mate, respect your opinion. We shouldn't write him off as you say, I've seen him drop deep when a player has advanced and he played some good passes... Never seen him start there with the intent to pull the strings thou. Hes being used in all sorts of positions for us, not sure where he is best suited but i like him as a player. But still, give me Dembele/Moutinho any day :-) And we could actually play them both with one of Parker or Sandro ha. Ade up top by himself or Defoe with Lennon and bale on the wings would work. Plus all the other combos. Its quality in depth more importantly COYS.
SpursOne2
i would sell defoe if we could upgrade with leandro or another young talent with the physical presence to get on the end of the crosses. I know that selling defoe might seem crazy but we would get a really good price for him now and he tends to dry up as the season progresses. he is getting on now and does create so many problems for a team while his chance conversion is way too poor. it would take courage but adding another striker without selling one will certainly cause problems, defoe is the most likely to throw his toys out the pram when dropped and if 10 million for defoe would enable the big fee to bring in a leandro then bring it on iMO
Guernman
peterballb I think if AVB could work on balo and get him to believe in our/his footballing philosophy then I think he would be well worth a punt. He is a great talent but Mancini doesn't seem to have a clue as to how to handle him any more, or it's just that he can't be bothered trying any more. Young and precocious, remind you of anyone, Cantona maybe? If it doersn't work out I'm sure3 Mr. Levy will be able to find somewhere to sell him on at a profit due to his youthfulness.
chrishove123
id still take a punt on guiseppe rossi, villareal are practically giving him away in January just to get him off the wage bill. only problem is he wont be fit til feb-march and you have to prey his knees dont give out again. still a young £30m striker if fully fit and firing. remember when fergie took the risk on van nistelrooy in a similar situation,
spurs-stelios
The egyptian fella from QPR might be a good signing and offer some creativity in midfield. What's his name..erm, oh yeah that's it.. TARAABT!
TornadoYid
Is it true that We rejected a chance to buy Saurez for cheap when Ajax offered him to spurs 2 years ago!That bastaard Arry!
SilwalYid
wasnt Harry's fault, head scout Ian Broomfield told harry there was no point in signing him as he is too similar to VDV
spurs-stelios
Just read an article about Dembele(Sky Sp).Just one word-WOW stats say that he is 2nd ranked to most key passes,9th to most successful dribbles everygame,10th to most interceptions!!!!stats dont lie,do they??????
SilwalYid
No, no, no to Ballotelli. Mourinho couldn't or din't want the hassle with him so AVB should also stay away. More trouble than he's worth one thinks! TornadoYid - I think you'll find his Morrrocan! Guernman - Selling Defoe is not a bad shout at all. Only that means we need to replace with 2 strikers, as you mention. Dimaeo and young hungry guy would be ideal.
yiddyboy
so in that case,that ******** Broomfield
SilwalYid
i know lol, in what way are they similar other than they both have 2 legs.
spurs-stelios
Every transfer window we were linked with Leandro,that put a smile to my face.Like a little kid at a bikeshop looking at one of the most exotic bikes & thinking it would finally be mine & to be disappointed every single time.That summarises my story!!!!!!
SilwalYid
SpursOne2, while I agree that Moutinho would be a fabulous addition to our squad, I believe it is an unnecessary cost. As it stands, with Dembele, Parker and Sandro healthy, it is almost impossible to find sufficient playing time for Hudd, Livermore and Carroll. That, to me, is an issue. I believe Hudd must be sold just to allow for a little bit less congestion and to be respectful of his career. I also believe it would be a great time to loan out Livermore, if there is a team that can give him sufficient playing time. That would leave us with 4 CMF, which, in three competitions, should be enough. Cover is always a concern. That said, Kaboul and Vertonghen are both capable of doing a job there if need be and both Sigurdsson and Dempsey could play the crerative role, if need be. Parker did not come to be a bit player. Neither did Dembele and Sandro, there is no going back. If we sign Moutinho, it's going to cause issues with playing time. Currently, it's 2 of Parker/Sandro/Dembele, depending on what AVB wants. I don't believe as Moutinho offers enough extra to the party to make it a necessary spend. Wouldn't say no to him joining, but feel that a player like Isco/Pjanic/Holtby/Eriksson is much more what we need along with a true up-top striker who can start gettig on the end of the numerous crosses that are provided every game. COYS
peterballb
SilwalYid- We went 2-0-4 without Dembele this season. 11-2-1 with Dembele. The only loss away to Everton, a game we really ought to have won. We can talk about needing a forward but i really think a creative central midfielder is what we need most. Dembele is the only player we cannot replace in our current squad. Moutinho, Sneijder or someone like that has to be looked at. Otherwise we will lose out to Arsenal or Everton for fourth if we lose Dembele for a stretch.
asherthesmasher
When Dembele went off the pitch we were still leading Everton, I as much I'd love to change the stat,I cant!We lost that one!
SilwalYid
I would absolutely not sell Defoe. He is exactly what we need coming off the bench. There is little Harry did that I agreed with, but in making Defoe a super-sub last season, he realized (whether by luck or just because he really was 2nd best striker) the true potential of JD. His pace is very difficult to deal with when defences are tired. He will shoot on sight. All of these keep other teams back a bit and on their heels, which, has a result of creating space for him while also stopping teams from being able to push all the way up when chasing a game or trying to break a tie. Defoe, IMO, is not an up top lonestriker and has, IMO, never shown an ability to be part of a duo in a 4-4-2. He is an individual striker who may get .6 goals per 90 minutes but who have not, in over a decade, made his strike partner look better. Adebayor and Dempsey's stats show clearly that there is nothing in the Defoe partnership for either of them. We need someone to complement the other striker in a 4-4-2 or who can work alone up top. More I think of it, more I believe Doumbia is the guy for us. Similar to Drogba. Strength, power, pace, assists, corners, headers. Whatever is needed. I think he and Adebayor could be brilliant. COYS
peterballb
Sigh. moutinho hardly scores, dembele hardly scores and sandro hardly scores. Dont see why some keep suggesting having the three in the middle or in the same lineup in future!!!!! And please dembele cant play behind the striker because he doesnt score. FFS dembele sucked as a striker/attacker that's partly why he was relocated to midfield!!
whitespur
The way i see it, our current formation is not ideal and not our best set up. The 4-3-3 or 4-3-3-1 is where we would like to be. With Moutinho the 4-3-3 would be ideal. With Holtby/Sneidjer 4-2-3-1. Imo, Dembele is our most valuable player while Bale is our most talented. I just worry. We have no back up for Dembele. I think we should pursue the Moutinho deal again. Now we have options to play different formations and we wouldn't miss Dembele so much if he is out. I am not a fan of the 4-4-2 and not a fan of Ade and Defoe playing on the same pitch. It's one or the other for me. I would rather see Dempsey or Siggy behind Ade or Defoe. But i would love to see a 4-3-3 with Sandro Dembele and Moutinho, Bale, Ade/Defoe, Lennon.
asherthesmasher
Surely we have to go in for Zaha?? We would have a great chance of getting him and as someone pointed out above he gives us great options as cover for both Bale/Lennon and he can play down the middle. No brainer! Stick ur hand in ur pocket Daniel!
TornadoYid
Dembele told himself that all he did was dribble when young and didnt shoot at all!I highly doubt he would be effective behind the striker!Why break the Sandro-Dembele partnership.We need to buy someone upfront!
SilwalYid
Asher, I don't think 4-3-3 is our ideal formation. Until we get a striker that can meet crosses, 4-4-2 is probably best. If we get a proper, up-top striker (Doumbia, Leandro type) and a creative AMF (Isco/Holtby/Eriksson/Schneijder) then we could go with the 4-5-1. 4-3-3 will lose a great deal for us as it will leave less room on the flanks for Bale/Lennon/Walker/BAE to work the sides and, none of the three CMF you mention (Sandro, Dembele, Moutinho) are the creative passers who will unlock defences. They all can get box to box and can all defend. It would leave all of the attacking to Bale, Lennon and Defoe which will not score us anywhere near the goals we need to succeed. This team plays very well in a 4-4-2. Always seemed comfortable under it with Harry and with Jol. Seem pretty comfortable with it under AVB. I still think, if we added say Leandro or Doumbia and Schneijder, we'd be legitimate top 3 this season and would be in for the title next year. We need a string puller and a true goal scorer. A winger like Dzagoev or Perisic would be a huge bonus, but it is not as pressing as the other two positions. COYS
peterballb
Kes80 - Not against the odd old head... Just talking about the fact that we have a young squad that have become experienced whilst on our books. Parker was a great signing. StillRickyVilla - Harry still performed miracles. He did benefit from a good squad, but just like AVB is now. But Harry still got most of our players playing to potential. AVB failed to do that at Chelsea, but let's hope he gets that right here. Levy was the one who got Comolli to sign young players... Comolli's failures were the older players he signed.
TonyRich
TornadoYid-Zaha is a boyhood LeArse fan.So that means he wouldnt fancy us ahead of them!plus I'd love Willian with a little more investment
SilwalYid
We can all agree we need more creativity. We need more technical ability. Be it a CM, or a CAM. That is what we really lack in the final third. So be it Moutinho, Sneidjer, Erikson etc..the are all technical creative players. That is what we need. We are a little too robotic.
asherthesmasher
peterballb, maybe i have the wrong idea about Moutinho's attributes. I think you are probably right anyway. 4-3-3 is my fantasy formation and we have too many players that would not benefit from it. But i think are better this season with 4-4-2 than we were last season when i think we struggled. Mainly probably to do with the strength of Dembele and Sandro who can do the job of three central midfielders. I know Ade has taken a lot of stick. But i still say give him time. If he can get back to last seasons form we can get back to last seasons best formation, as you say Peterb, the 4-5-1.
asherthesmasher
peterballb - Fair points mate. My question to Slurms earlier thou was , If Dembele is out, could you swap in say Carroll and he be consistent in that area? This season that is? I like the lad as you do mate but I feel that a combo of Say Dembele and someone like Moutinho (I’ve been using him because I believe he does fit for us, and we were so close to getting him last time around) plus Sandro and Parker in the middle for us would allow us to challenge in the premier league and CL. This season, and onwards…. Carroll has some way to come still imo to be relied on like that, love him thou ha. These guys you have mentioned have featured and have been getting games, they still can as well in games like the EL (and next season in the cups). Summer for me is the better time to try and get the right man (long term) for up top. We could be faced with getting in a short term fix to just cover while a player is away? I want us to get the right number 9 this time. Great if we can do it in Jan but something tells me it will be a mission, and also Levy hasn’t been known for breaking the bank for this type of player, especially in the half time window. It’s just where my preference is on priority and on top of that I honestly believe we have more chance getting a top CM now instead of later. Your argument about where to fit any new player in could be applied up top as well?. We all rate our current forwards differently and how may goals they will get come the end. We might not get anyone in Jan but I like some of the players you and others have listed! Cmon Levy.
SpursOne2
TonyRich, have to disagree there. Harry didn't ge the best out of Lennon. He threw him under the bus. Kanjcar? Corluka? Crouch? Defoe? VDV? Modric? I could go on. Harry had the most talented group of players a Spurs squad has had in probably three decades when compared to what others had and he really managed to get one place better than Jol with an ever weakening top 4. He played guys in to the ground. The fact he had world class players in Gallas, King, VDV, Modric, Bale at his disposal helped him an awful lot. The fact VDV couldn't do a useful thing with a free kick or corner for two years despite doing it game in and game out showed how little he got out of this supreme talent. Go run around a bit is the level of coaching you get from Harry. If Harry can cobble XI players together at QPR and avoid injuries and avoid advancing in the FA Cup, he may well save QPR from the drop. To suggest that team will be knocking on the door of the top 4 in a few years is a huge stretch. Harry walked in to a squad thatIMO could have finished higher in the table each year he was here. He also had a great team at West Ham. The only one who ever seems to benefit from Harry's stints is Harry. If QPR do a Harry spend and drop down, they will have unmovable old players and they will suffer the fate of Pompey, West Ham and Southampton. We were fortunate in that we had a Chairman who protected the club from Harry. Let's see what QPR do. 9 wins from their remaining 17 games should see them through. COYS
peterballb
Ox, you NEVER need an excuse to post THAT picture mate. Post it anytime!!!
spurboy61
SpursOne2, everything depends on who we bring in. Every signing that is an improvement or option to a starter as a knock on effect at the club. Tat's just how it works. Every player we upgrade within the 25, is an upgrade on the squad. If we sign Schneijder (as an example - Holtby/Eriksson/Isco all have the same effect), who plays up top? Who gets on the end of the crosses Bale and Lennon provide? I think it fair to assume Schneijder slots in behind a striker and in front of two of Sandro/Dembele/Parker. To add Moutinho (who would not come to sit) to the three behind Schneijder makes no sense at all. Not enough games to keep these guys happy. Can anyone see Defoe and Scheijder being two players who will play off of each other? Who would be the outlet? Schneijder would be a huge VDV upgrade, IMO. Won't score as much but will set up tons. Of the strikers we have, I would choose Dempsey to be the up top guy. Why, because he has a footballing brain (the backheel the other day was sublime and caught out three defenders) and he is the only one who seems to be able to get to the crosses of Bale and Lennon. He's not fast, but he certainly knows how to be where he needs to be (ManU goal - Defoe never scores that because he would never have been in the correct position). I like the idea of Holtby, though that appears to be one for next season. Same goes for Fryers, who can play both LB and CB. If I had my wish list and could take any three realistic players they would be Doumbia, Isco, Dzagoev. If I had to do it on the cheap (relatively speaking), it would be Eriksson, Miitroglou, Zaha. There are all sorts of guys out there. Arnautovic, Perisic and Castaignos could probably all have been had 4 or 5 windows ago when I was bleating on about them for 15M total. I'm sure now closer to 35-40M, though they all still represent fabulous talents with even more upside. COYS
peterballb
peterballb, i think if we have an opportunity to land Moutinho, we should. It might cause headaches but i trust AVB would know what to do. I don't think we have a like for like replacement for Dembele, and that is what worries me most. Right now we only have one CM of high quality that can come off the bench, Parker. Carrol is nowhere near ready.
asherthesmasher
Also peterballb, Sneijder was a world class player no doubt, but he anywhere near that anymore? He does not get a game for Inter. Regardless of the pay disputes, if he could offer what he was before, he would be playing. would love to have him, but for 150k a week for a player in the decline, i can't see it. I believe AVB's words when he says nothing is going to happen this window anyway and i think that is a shame. We lose Bale or Dembele for any length od time and we are *****ed.
asherthesmasher
Asher, I don't agree that Carroll is not ready. I do agree, that off the bench we only have Parker. I think arroll would be fine to start. His corners were better than most of what I have seen from Walker and Bale this season He creates space for himself and I really can't sa he has put a foot wrong. He's a much better tackler than I thought and his passing is superior to either Dembele or Sandro. I also think that Sandro and Parker have been changing their games a little as they have both been noticably pushing the ball forward with pace. To me, it seems that Parker, Dembele and Sandro are going to become similar players (in style). They all tackle hard and they all use their bodies to great effect. Best of all, they all get ticked when they make a mistake and get back and fix what they done. It's great to see. I just don't see how Moutinho does anything but create a glut in the box-box MF category while pushing Carroll, who I do feel will be a top player, further down the list. It might be 5 years before any of Parker/Sandro/Dembele start to slow. Moutinho, IMO, spells the end for Parker. Livermore too has potential, though I do feel he needs a loan. Buy Fryers, sell Rose and Hudd, loan out Livermore. It's what I'd do. COYS
peterballb
asher, Schneijder is on closer to 200k/week as I understand it, though I believe his contract was front loaded. Still, he is a top player (not my first choice as Isco/Eriksson/Holtby are all young/dynamic/less expensive) and I would welcome his addition to the squad. It does not, however, solve the largest issue which is that of finding someone to meet all of the crosses supplied by our wingers and wingbacks. I agree, wing cover would be great (Dzagoev, Perisic, Remy) but I am not as worried about our lack of cover because our players are all in the squad and have been playing. No, Hudd is not ideal, but he has hardly been to blame for goals where Walker and Gallas I can list probably 10 goals and 20 chances where they were directly responsible (ManU 2 goals and about 4 other chances alone). Same goes for Livermore, who I feel is trying too hard. He just needs to keep it simple. Hudd still has rust and his career would be better off if he left. I like him, but that doesn't change the fact that he is way down the depth chart. Gallas should be sold to QPR or at the very least given for free so that the wages come off. Yes, we are stuck with JJ, Bentley and potentially Gomes until their contracts run out. Don't register them. Sucks, but fact is, they are not anywhere near good enough. COYS
peterballb
Some of the names mentioned just aren't coming. Moutinho has a chance because of our coach. If he comes we can offload both Hudd and Parker, Livermore on loan. Carroll for cover. I just hope AVB doesn't have a bad spell, the bitterness for Harry is unreal. COYS!
RAF Yid
PeterB, we could recoup some of the wages by letting them go on a free. Said this yesterday, tell them that they are not needed and I honestly believe they will go. Yes, we might get stuck with half their wages for this year but it is better than the last 2 years where we have paid the lot for them to sit in the stands.
RAF Yid
We've signed Fryers. Anyone know something about him?
ardone
RAF, I don't think that they will go. They will take their full wages until the contract is done. Keane did it. Until LA Galaxy offered him similar amounts he would not leave even though no one in the PL wanted him and certainly not at anything near his wages. Crouch had one year left and we had to not only give him away ut we had to pay him to go to a PL team to compensate fr lost wages. Ade did the same and more as, if I have correctly understood, he got ManCity to give him away for a song, top up his wages for the 2 remaining years to his previous amount and then pay him what he would lose by accepting lower wages for the years we extended him. In essence, he still has 3.5 more years at 175k/week with us paying 100k or so per week as per the contract. Jenas will be easier than Bentley as his contract is up in June. Bentley and Gomes still have 2 more years. Gomes wants to go back home and someone said he was already back in Brazil. If so, something could be done so long as a Brazilian side wanted him. Bentley, I suspect we are stuck with for another 18 months unless Rostov want to keep him on loan. He apparently likes it there. I keep hoping that NY Red Bulls or another MLS team will come in for him, but his wages are ridiculous. Jenas likely has more value on the transfer market than he does. That's how not in demand he is. COYS
peterballb
PeterB, players want to play, I genuinely believe that. Yes, they are greedy but look at Bentley, he's gone to Outer Mongolia to play. By telling them openly that they aren't going to play, their agents will find a solution. Even by paying half their wages means we save. Gomes is never going to play again for us, Levy apparently wanted a fee. No chance, cut your losses. We can still save on lots of wages, clubs still want those 5. Good deals for all concerned.
RAF Yid
Good signing in Zeki Fryers, good potential for now and in the future, can play left back or in the centre of defence.

dont know why we are not in for FALCAO... AVB has a good history with him. And at 46 million... u know what your getting... GOALS....

FALCAO and SNEIJDER (free transfer@150k a week for 2 years)... top 3 contenders this season... challengers next season....

.............................FALCAO................................
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.....BALE................SNEIJDER..............LENNON....
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............DEMBELE...................SANDRO...............
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...BAE...........VERTS.............KAB..........WALKER..
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..............................LLORIS...............................
SNEIJDER ON A FREE WITH 100-150K A WEEK WAGES FOR 2-3 YEARS...

FALCAO SOLVES THE ONE PROBLEM WE HAVE... BANGING THEM IN... FINISHING....

26 years old... 5-6 good seasons left in him... plus goals... the man has a 0.63 goals per game average.....

if anyone can... Levy and AVB can...
Yidmarks
Yids, love that. But do you think those 2 fancy Spurs??
RAF Yid
0.63.... thats a total career average.

hes hit 56 from 65 games for Athletico..
Yidmarks
i think SNEIJDER would come coz he knows he will get a good run in the PL with a team thats suits his style...

If anyone can bring FALCAO its AVB... they both speaking Portugese.. they have the obvious history at Porto...

i think we have more chance than Chelski... the moneys the only problem...
Yidmarks
ardone - He was really highly rated at Man Utd and I think he could do well when called upon, I'm not sure what happens when Adam Smith comes back though.
rahn DMC
still think we will be in for Alvaro Negredo.. i think he would be a sensible buy..

dont like sensible.... like Falcao...
Yidmarks
Yidmarks, Falcao will cost 40M, at least. We could have had him 7 windows ago for about 15M. In fact, all of Dzeko, Suarez and Falcao were on the radar while Harry was bringing in Defoe/Keane and Crouch. Those three were considered the next strikers. All three have succeeded (in relative terms). I would still rather spend that 40M on Doumbia, Castaignos and Isco/Holtby/Eriksson.

Don't get me wrong, Schneijder and Falcao would be great additions and if we could get Bentley/Jenas/Hudd/Gomes/Cudicini all off of the payroll (one already done), the increased salary hit would not be that bad. I just think the lack of sell-on value and the wage levels wil act as deterrants. COYS
peterballb
Yidmarks, those are per appearance averages, if I'm not mistaken and not /90 minutes played. COYS
peterballb
Yidmarks - Looks amazing! However no offense mate but that's never going to happen. if Falcao is going anywhere then it will be to the clubs who A) Can afford him, and B) are at his level. He's the best arguably the best striker in the world. Not only all that but he's got a 57M release clause... sorry to burst your bubble ;)
rahn DMC
Looks like BAE will start on Saturday. Good news.
RAF Yid
Just want to throw this out there. The Fryers signing has me thinking that there has been a definite plan as to who we want and where. I have always believed that AVB was in on the Vertonghen, Sigurdsson, Ade and all subsequent deals. He has been quite direct when asked if we are still in for Leandro, Willian and Moutinho. I also believe that Dawson has earned his way back in to the frame and Gallas has fallen out of favour. The rumours about Holtby seem to have enough smoke to suggest there is fire. He is out of contract at year's end. He is a part we are missing and a pre-deal for him would be just the sort of Levy deal. Thoughts? COYS
peterballb
Mario Balotelli anyone...?
Yidmarks
peter- was fryers training with us before AVB came? anyway I'm sure Sir Alex is going a shade deeper after Levy has stitched them up for a fee...add Holtby and it looks like we're buying in the sales again...they may both become quality players, they may both not make it but we'll make a profit on both...either way we've still not addressed the priority Striker position and we won't get one of the standard we need on the cheap...
shedboy2
yidmarks- i don't think AVB would be the manager to handle Balotelli...
shedboy2
ardone- fryers is a LB who was with manu...even played a few first team games, he ran down his contract and trained with us in the summer but because he was young we would still be liable to pay Manu a fee....we couldn't agree the fee so the matter would go to arbitration with a likely 5/6m fee....but if he went abroad the club would not have to pay a fee....so off he went to Standard Liège who we have an understanding with. Then wow we only go and buy him for a small fee 6mths later....LB sorted!
shedboy2
yidmarks- why don't we just go in for Neymar?? The other teams seem a bit slow in taking him...;)
shedboy2
Shedboy,I think AVB was probably talking to Levy before Harry was let go. Fryers was training with us before AVB signed, as I recall. I also recall nothing but glowing reviews on the talent/potential. The only negative was "attitude" and I wonder how much of that was down to Fergie wanting a young talented kid to bide his time. I like the look of Holtby too. I would put him on par with Eriksson and way behind Isco, who is special. Yes, these are Levy types of deals as they are likely to have a return on the investment. I disagree on the striker issue though. Doumbia will cost about 20-25M. Leandro a little bit more. Arnatovic, less. Castaignos less still. Mitroglou, in the middle. There are lots of guys. As I said, 7 windows ago, any of Suarez, Dzeko and Falcao were all bandied about and followed by all sorts of scouts. 20M would have secured either of the firrst two and 15M would likely have secured Falcao. 4 windows ago, Castaignos, Arnautovic and Perisic could all have been had for 20M combined max. Now, probably closer to 40M. You snooze, you lose. We can't afford the finished product. We need to buy the players that need a little polishing. COYS
peterballb
Ho hum. It is all to do with finance. Sadly ENIC does it all on the cheap, thanks to their baffling inability to increase stadium capacity, and ergo, income. Yawn.
lordjohnny
Balotelli, I sooner see Anthony Gardiner back in a Spurs Kit. The boy is trouble given numerous chances in life and still people chuck money at him. No manager can deal with him til he deals with himself. Lots of talent, however more attitude, stay clear.
RAF Yid
Think I'll pass on Balotelli, his antics are funny when he's playing for someone else but I wouldn't want him anywhere near our team.
rahn DMC
peterballb,our play does not seem to be geared towards putting crosses into the box for a CF to get onto. If that was the case then we have Ade who is as good as anyone in the air. For all his faults this season, if he was wanted to just make sure he was in the box to meet crosses, i am sure that is what he would be doing. me and you also have very different views on Carrol because if we have to rely on the kid to come in and do a job for an injured Dembele who is very different from Sandro and Parker we are in trouble. There is no way in telling whether Carrol is going to be good enough either. Moutinho on the other hand is more similar to Dembele with very good technical ability. We already have two AM's in Dempsey and Siggy, neither have proved great yet. Can we have three? I think Willian would be a addition and great competition for Lennon. Good strikers seem to be the hardest to come by at the moment and seems to be a no go for now. For me, Willian and Moutinho would provide great cover and competition and really give us the edge for 3rd/4th.
asherthesmasher
Peter- from what I gather zeki is a player...he just didn't want to bulldozed by Fergie...it makes LB interesting...BAE, Rose, Naughton and fryers...who'll be number 1 next year? I'll have to dis-agree on the striker we need a guy who's proven capable of banging them in for at least two seasons at a decent level. our other strikers Defoe/Ade and ehem Dempsey (not a striker) are all of an age to start picking up injuries and running out of gas...we need a man to carry the mantle into the future...we can't wait 4 years for a 20 year old to develop and be consistent....we need 23-27 year old striker..imo
shedboy2
LJ, if you mean we either run a small profit or a small loss every year, you are accurate. If memory serves, our wages, % wise to revenues, have increased for 6 years running. I know everyone thinks Spurs are flush with money, but the season we qualified for CL we lost 7M. The season in the CL we made 8M. I haven't got the numbers on hand for the past two seasons, but my guess is they are moderate losses as our wage bill has been increased while revenues went down. Sign Balotelli for 15M and pay him 5M per season (as he is currently on). That's a 40M commitment. Better yet, get Falcao - double the commitment. 4 years of group stages just to pay Falcao's wagesn and transfer as he would have no sell-on value at 31. Doesn't get us anyone else. I guess the answer is ask lewis to throw it in the pot. Won't help us with the FFPR and ignores the fact that the year we qualified for CL Lewis threw in 15M of his own dosh, if studies and reports are to be believed.

We live within our means. I like that and I don't believe for a second you can't win while being fiscally responsible. It's harder to be sure, but not impossible. Still believe our squad was no worse than third best in the PL the past three years. Had we managed that, we'd have at least another 20M in revenue the past 2 seasons. COYS
peterballb
Ashers, we are all about getting it wide. An in-form forward would be on 15+ goals now, Ade could do that but looks happy to collect his £150k a week without too much effort. I don't think AVB appreciated his efforts otherwise he would be starting in a 4-3-3.
RAF Yid
Asher, Adebayor cannot fulfil that role because when he is in, he is the outlet He has his back to goal and is not poaching up top in a position to get on the end of Bale and Lennon's crosses. It's why I would put Dempsey up top as the"poacher" who could also play in Adebayor, who would remain in behind in the role of the outlet. Defoe is not that man. He alweays runs in behind the defenders. It's ridiculous. Used to make me cry. Now I just laugh every time I see the 5'5" striker run in behind a 6'3" defender to attack a cross from Bale or Lennon. It is absurd. Adebayor could play the "poacher role" but we'd lose the outlet pass. Neither Defoe nor Dempsey are strong enough while controlling the ball. Last season, VDV did that while Adebayor stayed higher up the pitch, thus the numbers looked as they did. Adebayor is getting no service and has no one to work off of to create when he is there with Defoe. Defoe as impact sub, Dempsey up top of Adebayor to start in a 4-4-2. COYS
peterballb
Shedboy, which striker would you suggest who would be affordable on the fee side of things and fit within our wage structure? COYS
peterballb
RAF, 4-3-3 is not a style that suits our team. We have no one in the team that can pull the strings. There is not a single permutation of 4-3-3 that I have seen that I thought could work. Lots of 4-5-1 permutations have promise, but this team is built for 4-4-2, until we get a string-puller. COYS
peterballb
Peterb- All the figures you quote are valid, yet irrelevant. We do things that are within our control, and revenue is one of them. We are, unnaturally, a small club in that we have a restricted audience, thanks to ENIC. Don't forget they took control in 2001, when, in that dim and distant past we had a socialist government handing out tax-payer pound notes like confetti, and a ground improvement could have been completed cheaply and easily. We would only have to play the usual inner-city regeneration game, and hey presto, Prudent Gordon would've been snipping the red-tape at WHL quicker than he got in that car labelling that woman an old bigot. Can you imagine his greasy turn on/turn off smile accepting the plaudits for reducing inner city blight, and us laughing all the way to the bank with public funding, and investors falling over themselves to get involved, before the bubble burst. And yet, and yet, we now have to rebuild in the teeth of the worst financial conditions, and ignore the fact that we've lost out on millions of revenue in the intervening years. No wonder we have to act like the Rockefellers shopping at Lidl when it comes to players.
lordjohnny
I agree about playing Dempsey, but as the "hole" player, I just feel Ade is underperfoming. If he played as well as last year, we would revert to 4-3-3. Dempey is not the "puller" but would score goals. I think Moutinho is part of the solution. I sense you might be right about the 4-4-2 currently, in particular Lennon. He lacks flexibility.
RAF Yid
LJ, all well and good but there are a whole mess of steps you are ignoring. I am not happy with the snail's pace of the NDP but, as I have stated many times, it's a drop in the bucket of where we need to get. The further seating will probably generate another 20M per season. That allows for better wages for the top players and a few more quid on signings. The only way to truly compete is to start winning things and, off the back of that, re-invigourate the Spurs brand, back to where it was in the 70's. Since the Emirates opened, Arsenal have increased their value by about 300M. We have, without a new building, increased by about 270M, over the same number of years. Arsenal spend within their means. No matter how much we may dislike them, they run the ship the right way. Yes, we were slower off the block and missed a trick or two when the EPL was started, but the Emirates has hardly allowed Arsenal, in a budget-balancing world, to keep their key players. We also run the ship in a responsible fashion. We could have bought last season, but would that have made Harry a better coach? Would it have stopped him playing knackered players? Friedel, Walker, King, Gallas, BAE, Parker, Modric, Bale, Lennon, VDV, Adebayor were still going to start when able. IMO, and it is just a guess, Levy and Harry were not on the same page as regards transfers. The best Levy would sanction, of the lot Harry wanted, was Saha and Nelsen. We have to start hoisting trophies, build up the rep, merchandise like crazy and keep doing the same. It will take decades. In the interim, 20k more seats and CL every year would help, to the tune of about 40M a season. It's lots, but as one poster mentioned, Falcao's buyout is 57M. We have a young team and continue to build frm the bottom. That's the Barca/Ajax way. It's the only way to save money. Develop from within and make a profit on all that comes out of the system. Systemically cheat the revenue system. COYS
peterballb
Sorry Peter to trot out all the well-worn stuff, but it ain't a simple extra £20 million. You have to factor in commercial agreements for stadium, shirt advertising, extra corporate space, and this goes part of the way to showing why that lot down the road could afford to pay an extra £1 million per week to their players compared with our wage bill, thus attracting better players, even when paying off the debt. Thankfully, their indulgent board has stuck with a manager who's best years are behind him, and his ability to spot talent has waned.
lordjohnny
RAF, where do you want Adebayor to feed the ball? Last season he had VDV who instinctively would move to where Ade wanted him and vice versa. I hav said it before, I'll say it again. Defoe is a lone striker. Whether in a 4-4-2, 4-5-1, 4-3-3 he operates alone, making no one else better. If he is not scoring a goal in every game, he is not contributing. 14 goals 28 appearances. 9 goals from 4 of those games. 5 in the other 24. It's same old, same old. I agree, he looks better under AVB, but the results are the same. Defoe, up top, is detrimental to the stats of those around him. After the 10th game, Bale and Lennon were in the top three in the league in chances created. Between them, I believe they had one assist (Lennon cutback to Defoe). Off the bench last year he was gold. He is not even scoring at a rate of .6 goals per 90 minutes this year. Worse still, Dempsey and Adebayor are in huge creative slumps. When the end target is Defoe, 5 chances equals 1 goal. He scored against Villa but was God awful in that game. He gives up constantly (never follows in his or other's shots). Always runs behind defenders instead of in front. It's painful to watch and is fundamental. ManU game, second half, sat up with the ManU CB's while Scholes pulled the strings 20 yards in front of him. If it had been me, I'd have marked Scholes out of the game, manager's direction, or not. It's hard for me to say who frustrates me mor, Defoe or Walker. Both should be so much better. COYS
peterballb
LJ, that all goes in to marketing. We cannot (60k or 100k seat football specific stadium) command, in naming rights what Arsenal could and they could not command what Liverpool or ManU could. Yes, Arsenal paid more in salary but still can't keep their top players. Wenger's ability is not waning. The scouting is now so intense and so much money is now expected in fees and salary, that getting young talent is fraught with risk. It always was. The difference is that now mistakes cost way too much. You still have to balance the books. Arsenal are finding it harder and harder to get top talents. They don't pay much more than us and their decrease in ability to pay is quickly being caught by our ability to pay more. Naming rights are normally is the area of 10-20M a season. It's not that much. expect as Levy will tie the naming rights in with the development so that the construction costs are covered as it goes forward. IMO, Levy and ENIC have done a great job being creative to get as much merchandising money in to the pipeline. 2 sponsors - brilliant. Partnership with UA - brilliant - there are now Spurs merchandise (limited admittedly - but more than none) available on the UA NA site as well as the GB site. I can count on one hand the number of Spurs shirts I have seen people wear in the last decade. If I include looking in the mirror, I can double the amount of merchandise. The only avenue used to be the Spurs site. We all want it today. It's going to take decades. Europe every year. CL more years than not. Trophies. Compete for the title. New stadium. And we'll be well on our way. COYS
peterballb
we need to sign Alvaro Negredo TODAY. End of.
pratts bottom
LJ, my sense is hat there is not the corporate cache to Spurs as there is with some other clubs. It is much more working middle class, which to me means grass roots. Support of Spurs has to be nurtured, not bought. COYS
peterballb
peter- hard question as to what is affordable? I like Doumbia (not quite a drogba though, half a foot shorter) Lewandowski would be ideal a figure of 18m and 80k pw was bandied about but I expect a lot more now and no movement until the summer...Llorente and Ba were options but always unlikely for different reasons, now history...I still think we could get Leandro but the price rises every time...other than that Negredo....Osvaldo, Soldado won't come now/during this window...I think it strange that AVB spent time in Brazil beofre joining and then we send a delegation there in the summer and yet nothing comes to fruition?
shedboy2
Pratts- jumped in there....;)
shedboy2
Naming rights- why don't we just sell them for WHL now and spend the money on players??...why is it OK to have the 'Dulux Bowl' in the future but not now? ..or perhaps there's a bit more to the naming game???
shedboy2
Much as I hate missing out on all the headline stars that cost over 30 million in reality I am glad that Levy doesn't have the "Chelski shiney object - magpie" approach to our transfers. Sure I want him to invest in players that will improve the clubs lot in the future but I don't want him to mortage the clubs future to do it. Prudence is the name of the game but now is the time to invest in our superstar striker before the new TV money starts inflating prices to even more insane levels!
Slurms McKenzie
Peter, never a lone striker and IMO, not a good striker. I'm with you on that. Its all been said before, scores against the worst, never gets a look in against anyone decent. Ade can and did look the part last year, Dempsey, scores. Part of the problem is that Defoe needs 3 chances. The first goal is always important, too many teams know that they sit back and limit Bale/Lennon/Defoe space behind. Ade has the ability, heading, pace, hold up play, could finish better but could still get 15 goals. He would make the same, however, he has a attitude to match.
RAF Yid
RAF, our strikers aren't perfect, but if it's those three the rest of the way, I would play Dempsey up top of Adebayor with Defoe as an impact sub. We need all three scoring. If it's to be Defoe scoring 16 goals and both Dempsey and Adebayor on 5, there's no way we make CL. We need those players that can distribute and score to be on the pitch to start each game. Best way to break down a team that wants to defend is to get an early goal. We absolutely need the crosses of Bale and Lennon to be met by someone. If Dempsey and Adebayor can approach their goals and assists totals from last season, we'll be in great shape. Defoe on as a fresh sub against tired defenders is always a recipe for goals. When Defoe starts, he has nothing left in the last 10-20 minutes to win races with CB's. Twice this season he has looked to have a clear break only to be caught by what should be a slower CB. Just my opinion. Would love t see AVB give it a whirl though. COYS
peterballb
Peterballb my only concern with the dempsey ahead of ade formation is that Ade seems to havedropped his high work rate from last season and even earlier in this campaign. Demspey has better vision and pass selection then either Defoe or Ade for this reason I would switch Dempsey and Ade around and play Ade as the front man who can still, head, run, score or hold up the ball and lay it off for Demspey et al.
Slurms McKenzie
Peter-That lot down the road will soon pay off their debt on the stadium, and the differential with us will grow even larger, unfortunately. ENIC has locked out 20,000 for many years now. There is no way that is good business practice. They could have built or rebuilt the stadium 10 years ago when credit was easier and cheaper, and investors were 10 a penny, and with an acquiescent local and national government awash with a surplus budget (remember those days?). Now look where we are. No way can anyone convince me that ENIC has done well with our club. All reports, financial or otherwise, state we have a stadium which is far too small for a club our size. Traditionally, and financially, it is stating the obvious that we should have at least a 55,000 capacity, and I reiterate, ENIC recognised this when they took over in 2001. There is no good reason why they could not have sorted this long ago, and blaming Haringey or anyone else has proved groundless when examining the facts. The fault lies entirely with ENIC.
lordjohnny
Agreed mate, going now. Defoe starts or he will go. I think part of the issue is like Walcott, Ade was putting in a full shift last year, this year not as bothered. 2 signings required, here's dreaming of Yidmarks team, COYS.
RAF Yid
Slurms, I think a lot of that is tactical. Harry wanted everyone closing down fast. I used to laugh every time Crouch would run 40 yards to chase a ball that had been passed back to the keeper. What a waste of energy. Take away any short passes and make thekeeper kick the ball. Stats say and 65% of balls kicked by the keeper result in a change of possession. Play the percentages. Make teams that like to play on the deck, kick the ball forward. Encourage teams that like the long ball to use it. It all plays in to possession. COYS
peterballb
Its more so his play in the middle of the park where he was moving and finding space to be an outlet option for his teammates he now seems to stand and wait for the ball to come to him alowing the defender to get a run on him. Agreed on gut busting runs to chase down the keeper. I would still play Ade in front of Dempsey.
Slurms McKenzie
thanks for the replys re. Fryers. It does look as if the defense is almost completly sorted for the next five years. A young GK with big potential in a year or two and we're set. We're seeing some serious signs of development guys, I'm just wondering what I'll feel like when we're champions! Its a crazy thought thats some how not seeming so crazy!
ardone
the way some of you spell his name, you'd think Sneijder was from Germany..
spurring you on
i like the two from brazil, I also wouldnt object to damiao and willian joining but I think theyre summer buys not now. we need a playmaker be it deep lying or a floater behind the striker but we need that creativity in the middle of the park, we need a striker for backup
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