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Ade is selected for Togo!

Emmanuel Adebayor has been expectedly called up to the Togo squad for the African Cup of Nations and will leave after this weekend's game at QPR.

Question is, would you play him? I suppose it is a decent debate based on the fact that it perhaps offers a final and only chance to possibly rest Jermain Defoe for up to Six games. However if you were looking to play your best XI in a game, that like any other at the moment, you need 3 points, should you pick your best team and with that in mind, would or should he get in ahead of Clint Dempsey on current form?

I suppose much will depend on the mindset of the player. Will there be a feeling that he knows he has let the club down slightly, and will therefore look to really fire himself up (hopefully not in the way he did at Arsenal) and leave us with a performance that makes us forgive him for his so far, season of woe.

Add to the fact that there could well be another striker arriving between his departure and return, a good performance and goal or two, might make AVB and Levy think twice about upping a bid in a desperate effort to bring in quality cover, cover that of course could well see Emmanuel dropped down to third in line and ultimately out the door in the summer, though whether that would really bother him is debatable.

Though at times my eyes tell me one thing, There remains a feeling in my heart that Adebayor is a player desperately wanting a performance and confidence that that game and a couple of goals will bring. Strikers and keepers perhaps more than anyone else stand and fall on goals scored/conceded and though as a player he does often frustrate the hell out of me, I also believe he is a very decent player, but perhaps instead of not caring he is actually feeling the pressure of his own poor season and also the good start and performances of Jermain Defoe.

Perhaps whatever happens in his selection or non selection on Saturday, we should all hope that Adebayor has a fantastic and productive tournament, even if it proves a disappointment for Togo. In doing so, we either get a player returning filled with confidence or one that has perhaps put himself in the shop window for a summer sale, which if he and AVB do not share the love for each other, might work out well for all parties and even leave Mr Levy with a profit on his hard worked deal last summer...




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Date:Wednesday January 9 2013

Time: 3:29PM

Your Comments

Laendro damiao in now! Goodluck to ade at the acn.
Little spur
Best of luck to him. He's had a horribly disrupted start to the season and needs a confidence boost, a good ACON can give him that. He was so good for us last season that he deserves a chance to reset his career under AVB. Players like Defoe have gone whole seasons being rubbish but we've given them a chance, Ade deserves one too. He is a unique player and when he's got that smile on his face he is one of our biggest weapons.
StripiestPilot
Leandro that is
Little spur
not sure how he's 'let the club down'.... Ade was a Togolese player playing intl. football when Spurs bought him.... and if you mean he's 'let the club down' by insisting the Togo FA buck up and pay for decent security that most intl. footballers expect, never mind those been shot at already, then what a thoroughly parochial attitude.. the guy has now decided to represent his country where most people's only joys are simple like watching their football team play in the ACN with their only star-player fighting for the cause.... how selfish that Adebayor is.
Viyyash-Ramosh
Damiao not moving this window apparently, targets gradually dwindling away, we will need to hurry up and find this years Gregor Rasiak, or Louis Saha, proper Levy signings. I was going to say we will miss Adebayor, but I'm not sure we will, doesn't do a lot these days, just need a proper striker to convert the bucket loads of chances we make.
Frank
Going to play for Togo is not letting Spurs down. Wandering about the pitch in a Spurs jersey looking like he's forgotten how to play football might be considered letting Spurs down. Adebayor surely is a complex man who shines and fades alternatively. If he plays this Saturday, let's hope his form returns for that match and he plays an important part in getting three points on the table for us.
Total knobhead
Frank - You mention Damiao not moving this window, then I started to think about Harry and the car window! Why is everyone so convinced that Damiao is going to be the greatest success, I'm not saying I don't want him, I just don't know how so much hype about someone who most have no clue about how he's playing week in, week out. As for Ade, go luck out there/ I'd play him against QPR, simply because he is more of threat than Defoe!!
yiddyboy
Isn't he already in Africa? Is he due back? I'd play him, up front with Dempsey in the hole. Defoe, bench but ready to strike in his best position, sub. Come on Levy, sign a forward.
RAF Yid
Isn't he already in Africa? Is he due back? I'd play him, up front with Dempsey in the hole. Defoe, bench but ready to strike in his best position, sub. Come on Levy, sign a forward.
RAF Yid
Yeah good luck, hope he has a good tournament. I really don’t know why so many people are shocked that he is going. I assumed from the start of the season he was. As for “messing us around” until the last minute, I’m very sure there’s much more to it that we read in the newspapers. Fact is, it doesn’t really change anything. As much as THFC may try and slant it so he’s left us in the lurch, that isnt the case. They have been aware of the tournament for as long as we have. We needed another striker then…we need one now. I just hope this isn’t the excuse for a bad run of results. I remember last year it was the England job with harry (admittedly it did play a part) that cost us, but nothing to do with the fact we didn’t bother to reinforce our team when we needed to??

We know he is going now and still have 3 weeks of the window open, there’s no excuses in my eyes.
hudderspur
a) He has not let the club down b) Play him before he goes. Rest/protect Defoe for this one - as he is all we have once Ade goes away. c) Sign a striker for cover/competition/the future.
TonyRich
leandro's agent has stated that they have received no offers and he is contracted until 2015, thats hardly a statement that he will not move this january. nothing has changed, he is there if the deal is right, so lets see. as for ade, I would play him, defoe has not been exactly setting the world on fire of late and adebayor brings a lot more to the team. he should also be fired up
Guernman
Ade on AVB, "yes he said he was happy for me to go to the press, but, that is not what he said to me" What a troll, can't stand this guy he is a world class a#shole.
ledgespur
Yeah ADE’s making himself look a bit of a nob with comments like that. In fact im starting to dislike the guy. As soon as he’s not the top dog he starts being a nob.
hudderspur
Surely Frank, you jest. Saha? Why don't we go out and ask Robbie Keane for a second comeback appearance with us? Or, for that matter, Greavsie? Or bring someone in via seance?
Total knobhead
Is his attitude a shock, ask Wenger and Mancini they'll put you right. The bloke is a prize pillock.
Frank
Only bad news about this is he`s available for QPR .
Funny how fans support him just because he`s a Spurs player ,shame that`s not mutually respected by Adebayor himself ,by putting in some effort whilst wearing the shirt .
Everything he does is half hearted & that should not be tolerated
big cockeral
That's knob, not nob, hudderspur. lol.
Total knobhead
It's more complex than you make it out to be, big C. Last season there were matches in which Adebayor put in real effort. The question is how to bring out that side of him again. Some seem to think that now that he's a new contract he won't put in effort again, but I'm not convinced that matters can be understood that simplistically.
Total knobhead
I'm with Yiddyboy on Leandro. a) Brazilian season is not in sync with ours and he may not be in ideal condition to tackle EPL right away - plus it will be a large enough learning curve as it is. b) Brazilan strikers have not set the English league alight yet... In fact not many Brazilians in any position have done well over here - I can only think of Juninho, plus for a limited time Gomes, Alex and our very on Sandro. c) The fee is inflated due to Brazilian teams needing to sell players to make money whilst still trying to hold on to their best ones. A big gamble because high fees should be based on what that player guarantees. d) January striker signings really hit it off immediately (just Cisse?). If we were to buy him, I would rather do it in summer - we could prepare him to the season properly, settle him in, get him acclimatized and give him the best shot at success. For now, we should get a long term striking option.
TonyRich
I don't think its a case of Ade not putting in the effort. Rather that he's not in good form. Given time, I think that he'll improve. With regards to his latest comments, he should think before he speaks. I hope AVB just ignores him.
Fanman
Good I am pleased for him. Glad it is starting to go right for him now. If he does well out there he will come back totally transformed and will be a different player for us.
chrishove123
I just don't think he's comfortable playing with JD. I'd start him against QPR with Dempsey and see how he does. If he seems to be protecting himself, sub him early for JD. Playing one up will have to be the set-up until he returns as as I can't see a new signing, if there is one, slotting straight into a 442. May as well start now.
Love totty
I think the whole Damiao thing needs to put to bed. I see there president or whatever he is has said it would take a serious serious bid for Leandro to move in January. If they are playing silly beggars just sack it off and move on to the next target

Tony / Yiddyboy – Agree that he is getting a lot of plaudits without actually kicking a ball in England, but I must admit from the little I have seen of him I would welcome him with open arms. It doesn’t matter what time of year the player comes, what country they come from, if they are good enough they will be a success, if not then they wouldn’t have succeeded anyway.
hudderspur
Love totty: "I don't think he is comfortable playing with JD". TBH, at present he doesn't look comfortable playing with ANYBODY!...in fact he looks uncomfortable playing FULL STOP!. He played alongside Dempsey against Coventry and apparently he didn't light up the stage then either! Perhaps more to do with the ROLE he is being asked to play. Whatever it is, AVB needs to sort it out, either by getting the best out of him or get another striker in PDQ. COYS!
Critical_Spur
If that comment is true, more fool AVB. We all know about the tournament, would we be happy for Gazza not to represent England at the World Cup. We are short up front even with him, Levy get the wallet out!
RAF Yid
Total knobhead It`s not hard to spot when a player is not commited.
Michael Dawson you can see every game the spirit ,fight & commitment he shows when putting on the Spurs shirt ,maximum respect for Dawson with his attitude & the way he carries himself ,a good role model for youngsters .

Dawson & Adebayor couldn`t be anymore more opposite .
I have zero respect for Adebayor ,yet with Dawson , a real good character .It`s their job & Adebayor is simply not doing it
big cockeral
But Dempsey scored two goals and then the whole team coasted by all accounts. Did he allow space for Dempsey to occupy? Worth another shot against PL opposition maybe.
Love totty
Raf yid - you went to the game last week, what do you think?
Love totty
Vs QPR.....i'd have him on the subs bench...and defoe. Siggy can be point with Dempsey behind. Liked to have got O'bika on the bench too....but with addy away, o'bika may get a run out soon. Negredo...go get him...he'll do.........there's a few more out there.
82spursdebut
L-t, those that went to the match DID report back a disappointing display I am afraid. FFS, against Coventry?!!!
Critical_Spur
There is something not right for me. Could be he has his contract so can relax, could be he's just lazy or my personal opinion is that he thought he would be No1. Playing second fiddle to Defoe has upset him. Maybe even a fall out because of Harry leaving. I can understand Big C's point. He's earns a lot of money and therefore there should be putting himself about. For me, he completes the ideal forward in a 4-3-3. Pace, good header of a ball, scores (perhaps not enough) and holds ball up extremely well.
RAF Yid
Nope ....he too slow and cumbersome.....too long legged and easy to tackle.........rarely uses his left foot.....and no longer can shoot a decent shot from long range................oops !! that's me really !!...lol
82spursdebut
Love Totty, he did okay. Link up play good but he never really looked interested. Had a couple of chances, the most interesting point was that the crowd were on his back right from the off. Unless I was sat next to Big C and family.
RAF Yid
Good news for those of you who have espn http://m.tottenhamhotspur.com/mobile/News/news-article.page?ref=fa-cup-draw-norwich-090113
In-spurs-ational
I have seen Adebuyor play a few games this season,the best you could describe his performance as "just about OK". I didn't see the Coventry game but he was probably making sure he avoided injury before the African cup.Whenever interviewed he comes over as articulate and intelligent, but there's a screw loose somewhere.Should never have signed him.
matt hoten
To be honest, at the moment, I regret us signing him. but I think that once he picks up his form, we'll all change our opinion of him. that's how it works.
Fanman
I was totally for signing him.......who wouldn't have been after last seasons showings. But been average for spurs since last season. We have to hope he becomes a better man / player for spurs .....soon.
82spursdebut
aas long as Ade is willing to be the slave to the likes of Defoe and Bale by doing the donkey-work in taking markers away from THEM he's 'okay', like last season when he created more assists than he scored goals... this season he aint being a mug anymore. Ade will make space and time for others if the likes of Defoe and Bale will do the same for him, instead of waiting as per normal for Ade to take markers away from THEM... otherwise he does all the heavy-lifting and they just breeze in and score the goals from the space his work creates, but never reciprocate (or at least only minimally)... it really is that simple... I think Dempsey could be a better foil for him than Defoe, until Defoe gets the message and starts doing legwork for Ade too (like last season when Vaart threatened his place)
Viyyash-Ramosh
vr.....you probably don't remember Galvin, Archibald and Crooks.....admittedly, a long time ago. Their were lots of leg work, assists and goals between them 3, for spurs. Do you think....Bale, defoe(dempsey), adebayor.........will produce as much, as those 3...???
82spursdebut
Defoe played his best football playing off Pepperami.

i spent a bit of time watching Defoe and Ade when they have played together, and i have seen that they actually dont have a clue where each other is, and its like they have actually forgotten how to play football when they are starting together...

our formation of 4-2-3-1 suits a strong lone striker and 3 attacking midfielders (Bale/Lennon/+1) that can also score and supply the lone striker to score.

Sneidjer would actually suit our game, so would Benat, so would Negredo....

Id take Huntellaar or Negredo over Damaio anyday... he aint a proven goalscorer in European football...

Id actually go for Sneidjer/Isco/Negredo/Benat/Huntellar...

any one or two of them would give us the firepower...

MY FIRST CHOICE STRIKER THAT I WISH WE COULD GET AND THE FACT THAT HE HAS HAD A LACK OF GAME TIME AT BARCA IS "ALEXIS SANCHEZ" .....

i think we could take him on loan if not permanently... PURE CLASS....
Yidmarks
Hmmmm...Alexis Sanchez.....mouth drools...lol.....we wish
82spursdebut
Danny Graham is the best type of moaner out there. Whinged all season about not playing, then gets his chance & scores 3 in 3. Much better attitude, more likely to make your manager change his mind & gets the fans onside rather than going out half ar5ed
Spurs Allday
will people, including you Mr Viyyash Ramosh, stop jumping on the security thing because it is nothing but a smoke screen - SA is totally safe for footballers during comps like AFCON and to suggest others or imply otherwise just displays woeful ignorance. Dont get me wrong, this is not about me protecting the country I live in, rather it is about being realistic between what is BS and what is truth. Of course, if you want to be a manipulated puppet then feel free.
Cape Town Spurs
Yidmarks, Alexis Sanchez? Really. Why stop there. He and Messi. I don't know if Sanchez has a buyout in his contract but he is probably not going for any less than 40M. Why would Barca get rid of him? Long term contract. Can't see it happening. Huntelaar just signed a new deal. Isco is not going this window. Schneijder apparently to Turkey. Negredo too has a long term deal, but then Seville could use the dosh. Benat is the most likely of those you have suggested. COYS
peterballb
for the first time i am feeling let down. Not for wanting to play for his country in the African Nations, all eligible players do but in the standard tonight he was saying AVB was not truthful when he was saying it was up to him as AVB was trying to persude him to stay. To me AVB has gone out of his way to protect the player and risked making himself look as if he has made a mis judgement if defoe breaks down. for Ade to say he wants to speak to the chairman makes me feel that he can only ever see things from his own selfish perspective
troffer2
my point is, Adebayor is a child, he will make excuses, faff about, lie until he gets the attention he so craves... he waited until the President of Togo summoned him. How big is this guys ego? Makes me think of a joke... How do you kill a footballer (insert Adebayor). Drop him from his ego to his IQ.
Cape Town Spurs
my point is, Adebayor is a child, he will make excuses, faff about, lie until he gets the attention he so craves... he waited until the President of Togo summoned him. How big is this guys ego? Makes me think of a joke... How do you kill a footballer (insert Adebayor). Drop him from his ego to his IQ.
Cape Town Spurs
....he might just tweak his back against QPR and not go...stranger things have happened....
shedboy2
Capetown.... SA may be safe per se, but you do not factor in the political scenarios of each country taking part.... Ade is a huge symbol and icon in Togo and is a 'scalp' that many guerrilla factions etc in Togo have already shown have a huge appetite to bag.... its all very well being so blase about security when its not your own life thats a prime target
Viyyash-Ramosh
agree troffer 100%, & excuse the double post. adebayor can be a great footballer when he feels like it but mostly he's just a pain in the ar$e. not worth the nonsense imo. arsenal & city would no doubt agree. the guy is prize plank
Cape Town Spurs
VR, with respect you are talking absolute twoddle. If you recall SA hosted the world cup in 2010 and I seem to recall most footballers made it home with their lives in tact. I know Africa well, having been to close on 80% of the countries on the continent, which includes several in the midst of on-going civil disturbances, and there is quite a differnence between travelling by bus FFS through Congo into a known rebel hot spot in the north of Angola and landing Business Class at OR Tambo International in Johanessburg
Cape Town Spurs
.... and as for Ade saying that the manager was trying to persuade him to stay and not go to the ACN.... well knock me down with a feather: a manager of an EPL trying to satisfy his own need asking a star player of his team to not be available and even maybe at injury-risk for a whole month.... and then the manager to not appear anti-PC to then deny publically what he tried privately to do.... not exactly unheard of is it ??... I know who sounds more plausible, by a country-mile. and it aint AVB.
Viyyash-Ramosh
michu.....!!.....better than pokemon
82spursdebut
Capetown.... dont be so effin naive and think you KNOW the security precautions Togo FA promised 1st then didnt implement til the 11th hour after Ade's ultimatum... you don't.
Viyyash-Ramosh
enjoyed Michu's goal . VR i can't agree, Ade is far from a star player, his value is lackof cover which may not be down to him. if AVB wanted to protect himself from a nightmare scenario of no strikers he would say he did all he could to try and prevent it but the player wanted to go . he tried to protect the player from potential negativity from the fans and has had it thrown in his face
troffer2
V-R, bore off to another site, you come on here and stir up arguments that are clearly flawed. Do you believe Cape Town or Ade. I know which boat I'm in. Been to Africa once, got the security brief and there was 2 main dangers. Ladies and car accidents.
RAF Yid
whether you like it or not Ade is indeed at star-player for Spurs, that may be a clue as to why Spurs pay him 100k a week (and since August, with no subsidy from Citeh).... and I think it comes back to the political-correctness issue whereby it wouldnt put Spurs in a good light for the manager (or others at club eg. Levy) to apply prresure to have him stay for the club's benefit and not the country of his birth when the call is made for him to represent his nation... so yeah, I can and do believe that AVB tried to get Ade to stay privately, but the club thinking it bad PR to make it public... can't see any way AVB tried to 'protect' Ade from adverse fan reaction. and if AVB is telling porkies (as is more plausible given the vested interests of Spurs) then Ade rightly felt he too should 'go public' with his side of the story.
Viyyash-Ramosh
wonder if spurs have addy insured ??.....£5mill'...£10mill'...£15mill' !!!!!???...mind boggles..lol
82spursdebut
RAF... I really dont hink Ade is concerned about the run of the mill dangers but the dangers evidently present for the Togolese team given the political situation in Togo, and the potential for specific terrorist-acts on the Togo team... if you can't see that then you really do belong in the RAF following orders
Viyyash-Ramosh
Viyash Ramosh, did I suggest I did know? I don't think so. What I do know however and any security advisor will tell you is that the route they took via road was an absurd decision and asking for trouble. Furthermore the violence that befell the team bus had nothing to do with the politics of Togo, but rather the politics of Angola. It was an opportunist moment well and truly seized upon.
Cape Town Spurs
V-R gomes and bentley are also high earners but not stars. by your logic Ade is a bigger star than Bale!
troffer2
V-R go away now you clearly are not going to understand your an idiot.
troffer2
an opportunist moment fired by political conflict.... which can happen if security is too lax due to under-resourced, under-paid, insufficient professionals employed by the powers that be.... the better the security the more EXPENSIVE it is... theres a clue in there as to why poor or corrupt country's politicians try to skimp on expenditures
Viyyash-Ramosh
if i was addy..i'd be worried about his wife.........his earning power is going down !!!!...lol
82spursdebut
VR - I'll happily have a conversation with you about the political situation of various African nations and the potential terrorist threats, perceived or otherwise, but then I remembered we were on a football site. I agree with RAF, you are a most argumentative individual. As to throwing insults to members of the armed forces, I imagine if you were under threat somewhere you may be quite pleased for their orders.
Cape Town Spurs
a star player indeed is Ade, its not just by Media promotion but what he can bring to a team. Bale is a big player but arguably less important to the team than Ade was last season.... this season, its a case of you dont scratch my back Mssrs. Defoe and Bale particularly, and I won't scratch yours... the opposite of last season when all 3 were pulling together for the TEAM.
Viyyash-Ramosh
.... but I guess its okay for an apparent RAF affiliate to insult me in the 1st place.but not okay for me to RESPOND in kind... funny dat.
Viyyash-Ramosh
VR, why do you feel the need to SHOUT all the time? And why are you so defensive? People have different opinions to you, get used ot it.
Cape Town Spurs
V-R, I made my statement on an actual brief I received from an Ugandan official. No, not where the tournament is being played but an country with a history of terrorism. My point is that you are guessing at best. You have no facts just a flawed agrument.
RAF Yid
Ade going to ACN is a non-issue in my books. All players are allowed to join their national teams. Now, is it in Ade's best interest to go? Perhaps emotionally and psychologically it will do him the world of good. Perhaps he will get on a roll. For the record, the official reason Adebayor refused to play in a friendly against OMAN was for unpaid bonuses. Myself, I would not have signed him the second he was not going to be on the pitch against Newcastle. There is no I in team. Further, when he finally got all of the money he could out of City (reputedly paid to compensate for lost wages not only for the two remaining years on his City contract but for the two further years we agreed) he showed up and was clearly a long way out of shape. He then carried an injury due to his lack of fitness and got the red card. 3 goals and poor performances is mostly of his own doing. That costs the team. Hopefully ACN benefits him and he comes back motivated to play to his potential. But for one year at Arsenal, he has never played to his potential. Last year was the closest and IMO, he had tons more he could have given. COYS
peterballb
not shouting at all. just emphasising certain aspects of my point of view. and te only one I'm defending (alone it seems) is Ade when the vast majority of taken AVB's side.... lets look at this objectively: if AVB didnt try to persuade him to stay there'd be no upside to ADE by publically saying AVB did. if on the other hand, AVB did indeed try to get Ade to stay but then lied about it, its only then in Ade's interests to show the club he wont accept that treatment and will stand up for himself now and in future if they try to 'spin' against him... in that light it makes perfect sense for Ade to deny what AVB claimed happened. even if the Media and fans disbelieve, AVB and others will know the truth and will think twice before pulling such stunts again.
Viyyash-Ramosh
RAF, of course I'm 'guessing' as is Ade as is anybody without a crystal-ball.there maybe no known-inknowns but its the unknown-unknowns that are a bitch in Life, so best try to minimise risk... also, maybe I'm silly, but I think it might be a good idea to ensure that security assurances already made are then adhered to by the Togo FA and not allow them to back-slide
Viyyash-Ramosh
VR - this is all just speculation. You speculate one thing, I speculate another. We have differing opinions about Ade. I need to get some sleep. G'night all.
Cape Town Spurs
It is absurd to suggest the Adebayor is trying less because Bale and Defoe aren't allowing him goals. Utterly absurd. Adebayor, like BAE, is so laid back. I have no doubt he is frustrated by Defoe, who, IMO, has not worked "in sync" with any striker he has been partnered with, other than Crouch for a short period of time at Pompey. Dempsey and Defoe are also not on the same page. For me, I'd play Dempsey (the only one likely to get on the end of crosses and get to rebounds) up top of Adebayor, the only one who can be a target man for the long ball, hold up play and distribute, while also having the sense to get back in the play. Defoe on as an impact sub (so Harry got at least one thing right). COYS
peterballb
Big C, I agree that Adebayor isn't committed these days, but what is less clear is why. It may or may not be because he's signed a contract. I suspect that he's more complicated than that and that his level of commitment depends on a number of factors. We don't know how unsettled he is because of changes in the way the club in using him under AVB. AVB clearly has motivated most of the players, but perhaps Adebayor isn't happy at the role and instructions he's been given. Perhaps he was happier under Harry's "just run about" instructions. I don't know what's unsettling the lad, and neither do you, but it may be more complicated than the mere fact of his being ours now rather than being in on loan.
Total knobhead
Big C, I agree that Adebayor isn't committed these days, but what is less clear is why. It may or may not be because he's signed a contract. I suspect that he's more complicated than that and that his level of commitment depends on a number of factors. We don't know how unsettled he is because of changes in the way the club in using him under AVB. AVB clearly has motivated most of the players, but perhaps Adebayor isn't happy at the role and instructions he's been given. Perhaps he was happier under Harry's "just run about" instructions. I don't know what's unsettling the lad, and neither do you, but it may be more complicated than the mere fact of his being ours now rather than being in on loan.
Total knobhead
Pav's going cheap.We'd better be quick...Reading are sniffing around!!!!
wentworth
There is an underlying threat from terrorism. Attacks, although unlikely, could be indiscriminate, including in places visited by expatriates and foreign travellers. V-R taken from the official site. You're guessing ain't you or looking for an arguement. Once fact and reason come into place you go away. The main problems are travel but I guess they will be flying, with a short bus trip to games.
RAF Yid
Michu is just who we need up-front, he's a perfect fit for Spurs. He's plays the lone front man role so easily. Where are our scouts then?
Fanman
addy....has missed some great chances.......no one to blame but himself ...and god ! hopefully, the break will do him good.
82spursdebut
VR - your fevered defence of Adebayor is laudable. However you credit him with perhaps a little too much integrity. All Spurs fans (and the club) wanted was for him to be open and honest from the start. There was absolutely no need for all the posturing and prevarication by Adebayor. All he had to do is be absolutely clear he wanted to play for Togo in this tournament and would do so. Instead we and the club were subjected to a long, drawn out will-he-won't-he saga ranging from his international retirement, through a dispute about his personal appearance fee to the discussion around adequate security provision. Lo and behold at the eleventh hour everything was sorted to his satisfaction and off he goes to play. No problem with that per we but the way he faffed about has left the side weakened and with little time to properly plan and prepare for it. That shows a lack of respect on Adebayor's part and he could have more easily avoided it.
SpuriousLife
yeeeehaaaa.......money doesn't by you success...sometimes !.....up the swans !!
82spursdebut
Well done Swansea....what a result!!!
wentworth
I am guessing cos of the simple fact that I dont know what the future is gonna be funnily enough.... it must be great working in the military cos you of course know exactly whats gonna happen using your amazing high-tech coloured beads and tea-leaves, and therefore have no need to insist that security precautions are at a standard already agreed to when that wasnt forthcoming.... just maybe your briefs can't predict everything due to happen.... and history has shown how lax security can lead to
Viyyash-Ramosh
It's entirely reasonable that AVB and Adebayor had different interpretations of what happened between them. They both could be telling the truth from their own perspectives. Misunderstandings between people happen daily and it doesn't mean that one person is right and the other wrong. They simply read what was happening differerently.
Total knobhead
Spurious.... dont you see ? the guy could not say that he would be going to ACN before the Togo bigwigs agreed not to backslide on security expenditures. to do so would have left no nbargaining position for himself or his teammates.... its only after they agreed to provide what was already agreed to that Ade could then declare he was going to ACN... I'm quite amazed I had to explain that to some.
Viyyash-Ramosh
looks like chelsea,s swan-song
ledleygomez
and thats weak re. Spurs not having time to prepare for Ade's or any players absence for 1 month, what about injuries that can occur at any time.... AVB would and should be as prepared for 1 month without Ade as for 1 month without Bale or anybody else. and I'm sure he has done.
Viyyash-Ramosh
My tea leaves suggest Ade isn't worried about security one bit. He is worried about Ade's wage, his ego and political stance with the president, as Troffer suggested.
RAF Yid
Everyone has their opinion on Ade which is fair enough but I'm going to give him a chance to prove me wrong. I'll pass judgement at the end of the season. Good luck to Togo they're gonna need it!
Jantheman
82spursdebut; Levy did up the policy for Ade, once he made his mind up on the ACON, but it's only a shot in the dark, as far as I'm aware?
spu 4 life
Michu played well today. Michu for Max £13m or negredo for max £16m...doubt either would happen though.
SpursSnM
VR - at no point was Adebayor at all clear about what he was going to do or what would help him make up his mind. He just let time pass not committing one way or the other whilst things happened around him. That obviously made things difficult for him but also left the club twisting in the wind. We all know Adebayor is more than capable of making a decision when it suits him. That's all he had to do in this situation. No one begrudges him playing for his country but the fact he 'decided' to go at the very last minute with no apparent regard for the people who pay his weekly wages gives some indication as to who Adebayor looks out for first. Good luck to him but he can't expect loyalty and consideration from the club when he's not shown a great deal to his current employers (nor any of his previous employers for that matter). The man is what he is - a great player on his day but a footballing money mercenary (like many others it has to be said). However I can't get overly excited about defending him or his current decision because he's self-obsessed enough not to need my support.
SpuriousLife
If he takes an active part in the QPR game on saturday, that's down to AVB, had the cup game not been a draw, he would not have featured because it would have been played on monday. On saturday it has to be in the best interest of our football club, just go out and win. Rumours Arry wants Gallas, how much should be the next question.
spu 4 life
fanman-michu was mentioned to us several times...we passed...:(
shedboy2
Benitez again rested guys at home and is paying for it. I can't believe they did not recall Lukaku. He's what they need. Problem is they are stuck with a 50M mistake. Oscar has the potential to be fabulous, but there is way too much on his shoulders. At keeper, after Cech, they are a mess. Their defence is awful and Cech is the difference maker. Cech made two save against us that allowed them to win. Don't get me wrong, they have some wonderful players. What they don't have is a team. Same can be said of City, though Brewster's Millions there help a lot although they have the opposite issue of Chelsea. Chelsea have too many games in their fixture list. City have too few. If I had been Benitez, I would have dressed strong squads for the QPR and League Cup matches and taken a roll of the dice with the FA Cup match. The three points dropped to QPR could be huge at the end of the year. Now they have to dress a top team away to Swansea with Arsenal and Reading on both sides of that fixture. All good for us so long as we keep focused. win away on Saturday. Ratchet up the pressure. COYS
peterballb
Ade did not play against Oman because of money. security was not an issue. That's from the country representatives back in December. The President of the country then vowed to talk to Ade directly to address his concern (money, not security). I'm sure that security is an issue for all of the Togolese players. The other ones aren't refusing to go. It's only Adebayor. He has a right to represent his country. I do nt begrudge him that. Just please don't try to use the tragedy of 2010 to obfuscate what is going on here. COYS
peterballb
I like Michu but he has to prove himself next season as well. Sometimes players have a good season coming into the PL but once other teams sus the way they play the next season is usually the most important season to see how they handle it. Next season teams will man mark him and play to keep him quiet if he is as good as he looks this season he will improve and counter that and be a top player if he doesn't he could be a one season wonder.

However, I do like him and I hope he does become a top PL player if he does he will move to a bigger club.

Any real gossip on new transfers?
thfan
Shedboy, yes, we could have had him for free in 2011. COYS
peterballb
PeterB, just can't see Benitez surviving. He's unpopular and is stuck with a 50million flop. Ba is injury prone, Lampard is going and the Chairman won't stick with a manager for too long.
RAF Yid
Why not just pay 3M for Mitroglou? 4 M for Castaignos? Or really splurge with 7M for Guidetti? Any of these guys could help without breaking the bank. COYS
peterballb
VR, as far as was reported at the time of Adebayor's signing from Man City, the subsidy of his wages by City was for the first 2 years of his 3 year contract, I think you will fin unless that has changed your claim that it finished in August was incorrect. It was this subsidy, and his "loyalty" payment, that held up the deal until after the start of the season.
Frank
RAF, it's our gain. He should have let AVB go through with his plan. Is it any wonder that all those veteran legs were so rested late last season for the cup runs? His rotation gift wrapped a fresh squad to his assistant who took the titles and was reluctantly made manager. Now it's Benitez because Guardiola wasn't ready to come. This is where teams really should have to balance the books. Paid 10M to buy out Ancellotti. Pay Porto 13M to get AVB and then pay 11M to buy him out. Then give DiMatteo a 2 year deal just to sack him. It is insanity.

Funny thing though, in my psts after AVB was hired and people kept going on about how he was a failure at Chelsea, I stated unequivocally that Di Matteo would be fired long before AVB. COYS
peterballb
Having watched Chelsea v Swansea tonight as well as previous several televised Swansea games this season, it really annoys me to see the quality of Michu @ £2M, he is the ideal lone striker, and we are supposedly looking for strikers in the £12-15M bracket, most of whom we can't hope to sign. We have also seen Demba Ba and Pappa Cisse at Newcastle who together cost very little. Who are our scouts in Europe and what do they do, when can we expect our £2-3M gem. Laudrop obviously has good contacts in Spain, where are our gems as a result of AVB's inside knowledge and contacts in Portugal.
Frank
Frank, I seem to recall that Ade was guaranteed the alnce of his wages as had been promised by City until the end of the original contract (ie end of next year) and then he held out leaving because he wanted (and eventually received) a payout to reimburse him for having to accept our paltry amounts for the balance of the contract (which I thought was 2 more years). Now I have checked, his contract is only until 2015. Frank, you have it right. COYS
peterballb
Frank, Mitroglou, Castaignos and Guidetti all for under 15M total. COYS
peterballb
if we dont get a a stricker it will come back to haunt us
123spurs
PeterB, yep so true. The charman is so blind he doesn't understand that by changing managers so often, it costs a fortune and yet still the old players haven't changed. Will Guardiola take it?
RAF Yid
need a striker now, for sure. COYS
Madaboutspurs
shedboy2, its looking like we missed out big time with Michu. We aren't so good at recruiting strikers lately.
Fanman
Its looking like Chelsea might have over paid for Hazard. How much was he 32.5 million? He seems to struggle to get into games. He doesn't look much better than Sigurdsson at the moment.
Fanman
Judging by the exchanges on this forum today, seems we have a few security specialists onboard!!.

Regardless of soap of will he/won’t he go to SA, well, he’s off and let’s move on. Over to AVB/Levy to decide whether we chance the same team for the 2nd half of the season, the very team that has got us to 3rd in PL; or invest now on couple of quality additions to consolidate our CL spot with greater depth in squad. Remember, Ade has hardly been part of the team so far and the team has only just fully adapted to AVB’s doctrine.

Well, even if Ade is here on Saturday, I think he will be omitted from the game against QPR. This match will be a tense encounter for numerous obvious reasons and one that we MUST do our utmost to bag 3 points. The guy hasn't been up for it of late and certanly will have his mind on the flight to SA. On the home straight, we have to keep our foot firmly on the gas and remain fully focused.

Regarding what Ade said about AVB, I think it to be utterly unprofessional of him to be critical about his manager. If I had said that about my boss, I would be sent home with my P45!. With comments like these, I seriously begin to question his integrity, attitude, loyalty, work ethic and his agenda. I seriously think there are some underlying problems between Ade and AVB/Team. Like someone said before, Ade did well under Harry (‘cos harry put his arm round him!), fans therefore adored him. I think With Harry leaving, seems Ade’s interest has also gone and he is not quite fitting in to AVB’s vision. So I wouldn’t be surprised if this mercenary moves on again in summer.
Critical_Spur
I´d like to say wo things tonight here, Lads: 1) If what Adebayor said to the press about AVB, then he should look for another club even before boarding to SA. Very unprofessional from him. 2) Watched Swansea beat Chelsea and even if Michu might turn into a flop next season, judging by way he is playing, 2MM pounds wouldn´t have been bad business. Ask RM about Modric...
AlexSpur
Looks like Sniejder deal has been agreed... as of 11pm last night...

Galatasaray.. why?
Yidmarks
Even man u seem to find cheap Brazilian strikers. Must admit I've never heard of Leo Baptistao, but if sir Alex is after him, he can't be too bad http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/130109/manchester-united-chasing-rayo-vallecano-striker-188888
In-spurs-ational
Ade is clearly an intelligent and altruistic man as well as being a class footballer. The decision to go to this tournament was obviously going to be difficult for him with pressure being applied from all sides. AVB wouldn't play him if he wasn't performing so we need to cut him some slack, wish him well and welcome him back. We'll need him in the run in.
Love totty
1) Togo match fee of 1000 dollars per game, and you think hat matters to someone getting 100k a week.... have a word with yourself.....2) a guy who gives more than 25% of his earnings to his charity and gets taxed 40% on the rest is no money-grabber, unlike most footballers everywhere. no matter how the Media likes to portray him and fans lapping it up....3) Ade was in a game of poker with the Togo FA to provide what was already agreed upon re. security arrangements. they dallied hoping they co7ld get away wit providing less. Ade insisted (for himself and the squad) that they should provide as agreed to. Togo FA finally acquiesed and only then could Ade declare he was available for ACN selection.... its all pretty simple to the ynprejudiced eye to follow..
Viyyash-Ramosh
Frank.... whether Ade's wages were being subsidised to the terms of his Citeh contract as a 1-off payment by Citeh or monthly during his time at Spurs is neither here nor there.... he will get the equivalent of 70k a week from Citeh in 1 of those 2 ways AS HE IS CONTRACTUALLY ENTITLED TO and the remaining 100k a week will be from Spurs til his Spurs contract-end.... I don't know why he should be expected to take a pay-cut of many 10s of thousands per week when theres not another footballer I can think of that would do the same - never mind 1 who has charity commitments in Togo benefitting 1000s in abject poverty.... I'd like to see you give up 40% of your salary voluntarily, then maybe I'll take your comment seriously.
Viyyash-Ramosh
VR you are moving the goal posts yet again. My point was that contrary to your claim that City's subsiy of is salary finished in August, I said, and Peterbalb has subsequently confirmed, having checked, that in fact the subsidy will remain in place until 2 years of his 3year contract has expired. This, unless City are prepared to transfer this subsidy to any future owner, will make it virtually impossible for us to sell him, at least until the last year of his contract. Incidently in answer to your comment re. me voluntarily giving up 40% of my salary. I am pleased to confirm that I have done better than that, I have given up 100% of my salary, I have retired, I hope this sattisfies your curiosity into my financial status.
Frank
Negredo on way to London today to talk to a English club for selling Negredo. Before leaving Spain, he gave interview in AS in Spain. Speculation is its either Arsenal, Us or Newcastle. I would rather hope its us- top striker 14million. Perfect deal in my mind. Report in http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2013/01/10/primera/1357809649_280899.html
sydqcb5
VR - Every footballer gets taxed, and every footballer is a money grabber (including Ade), it's their job. Why not earn a shed load of money to do something you're good at? Especially when your career shelf life is about 20 years (high level football) at the very very most.
rahn DMC
... and I say again Frank.... whether his due contractual income with Citeh for the remaining yrs are paid as a lump-sum or spread over the duration of the remaing contractual period with Citeh is irrelevant.... the fact remains that he earns 100k a week from his contract with Spurs outside of the above... and I doubt you have given up any salary as such as youve said you dont earn a wage due to retirement. but the fact remains that many on here expect Ade to renounce 40% of his due contractual earnings with Citeh, when I doubt many would even contemplate giving up 10% of their wage. the hypocrisy is is truly epic.
Viyyash-Ramosh
.... actually Frank, I have erred slightly with the above statement, semantics really but I shall elaborate.... Ade will earn in total from Citeh and Spurs the sum of 170k a week to the notional contract-end period with Citeh... for the remaining contract with Spurs he then earns 100k a week exclusively from Spurs....
Viyyash-Ramosh
re. Negredo.... I think Spurs will go all out for him as we generally play 2 forwards to Arse's 1 central forward. Arse have Giroud as their 1st choice and Negredo will have less chances tere for gametime (or maybe Giroud would be backup).... Newky should not be competition as they will now play te talented Cisse as 1st choice and get a cheaper backup.... Spurs should be in prime position based on need, fit and opportunity. I hope Damiao is left as he aint worth 25m+ and the 3rd-party ownership stinks and is supposed to be outlawed by Uefa (so why dont they enforce the effin thing)
Viyyash-Ramosh
Good luck in the ACON to Ade hope he gets a shed load of goals and is brimming with confidence when he returns to us and we finally see the player we thought we signed. Absence makes the heart grow fonder as they say!
Slurms McKenzie
Frank, rarely agree with your comments but the response to V-R, brilliant. V-R, not a pop at you, just made me laugh. Back to following orders!
RAF Yid
Whats money got to do with it anyway. The money got him here, is it too much to expect a guy to earn it as well? I still think (if we sign another striker) that the ACN will be a positive for Spurs with healthy competition in all areas of the squad and hopefully decent game time under his belt for ADE. I agree he really hasn't got going this season for various reasons but maybe he can kick on from here!
Slurms McKenzie
why just pick on Ade if you think he isnt earning his wages.... why not any other player who isnt performing according to the Fans' Almanac of the Misinformed ??.... oh yeah of course a striker not scoring does mean he's doing nothing after all, doesnt it.
Viyyash-Ramosh
Another thing re Adebayor and people admiring his philanthropic gestures in Togo. Anybody earning £175K/Wk searches for tax deductible donations, so Adebayor has found his in Togo, big deal.
Frank
the majority of his earnings are not tax-deductible tho' are they..... and he is effectively taxing himself at 100% for his charitable donations rather than 40% income-tax if he retained that money for himself, so he still loses out by making those donations every month....
Viyyash-Ramosh
V-R, I don't want to seem like an argumentative sort but if you think Ade is thinking of anyone else but Ade dream on. I like Ade as a footballer, I thought he was close to our player of the year last season. Good touch, assists, goals etc, but to suggest he is thinking of others all the time is ridiculous. Did he did of the fans when running the length of the pitch to celebrate, he can do what he wants with his money however he earns £175k a week. He isn't giving it away, trust me nice house, car, tax deductions on earnings fact!
RAF Yid
Really a discussion on the ins and outs of a player's tax return and done with such knowledge and authority! Amazing since neither of you have ever clapped eyes on the guys pay cheque.
Slurms McKenzie
Yep, a lot of conjecture here, but not enough links to reputable sources to support the assertions.
Guyver
the charitable deductions on earnings, as I have explained already, still leave him with less than if he had retained it even after having it taxed.... I'm not suggesting that hAde thinks of others ALL the time, but what little he may still has great repucussions for those in poverty in Togo, and is a damned sight more than virtually any other footballer gives (as a regular percentage of earnins)to charity week in week out.... to get back to the original debate 1) no, Ade has not let the club down by going to ACN and 92) AVB's likely gambit in claiming no pressure applied on Ade to stay for Spurs' benefit has backfired after Ade counter-claimed it as not true...
Viyyash-Ramosh
"great repucussions for those in poverty in Togo, and is a damned sight more than virtually any other footballer gives" Not true VR, Players like Rooney and Crouch have both been known to donate a percentage of their earnings to those in need, several prostitutes have benefited from their generosity.
Guyver
I doubt Clooney and Crouch are the only 2 footballers who regularly donate to that particular cause...
Viyyash-Ramosh
 

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