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Dealing With Packed Defences

Dealing With Packed Defences

Yet again at QPR we came up against a team set up to defend in depth and yet again we couldn't break them down, its becoming our achilles heel, it might cost us Champions league football.

Unlike Arsene Wenger I don't believe the opposition should be forced to play the kind of football that would suit us. Teams like QPR are fighting for their lives, they must do whatever is most likely to keep them in the Premier league. What is worrying is that even though we knew what they would do we didn't seem to be able to do anything about it, why?

When faced with a packed defence we seem to play in front of them, trying to pass our way through. Chelsea's victory in the Champions League last season showed how futile that tactic is, even Barcelona couldn't make it work. Unless you get lucky with a long shot there are two basic ways of dealing with packed defences. One is to get down the sides and send in crosses from the bye line. The other is to score from a set piece. The one good thing is you only need to score once, as soon as you do the game changes.

So why can't we break teams down? On the face of it wing play should be ideal for us with Bale and Lennon's pace. But you need wingers to stay wide and, if they are to fire in a stream of crosses, to be playing on their natural side, our wingers don't do that. Even then you need strikers in the box trying to get on the end of crosses. Obviously not ideal for Defoe, what's worse is that even though Adebeyor is ideally built to play as an orthodox centre forward he actually spends most of his time drifting wide.

Dempsey might do better than either of them. We actually showed how set pieces should be taken against Swansea, good delivery from Walker, good finish from Vertonghen, Swansea's game plan in ruins. The trouble is that was the exception not the rule. Generally free kicks and corners appear to be wasted, often going straight to the keeper, there seems very little thought behind the delivery.

We have plenty of height in the squad, but without a decent ball in it makes no difference. I don't know whether its that our kickers aren't good enough or simply that we don't practice the routines. What is clear is that we are likely to see more teams playing defensively against us simply because it works. AVB needs to find a way of countering packed defences and drill it into the squad, even if it means players have to adapt their normal game. Otherwise we will drop a lot of points by the end of the season.

Written by jod

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Writer:jod
Date:Sunday January 13 2013
Time: 1:20PM

Comments

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Buy a decent striker . 4 years over due
big cockeral
13/01/2013 13:23:00
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We saw yesterday with Tarabt, just what a creative midfielder can do and had they had a decent striker who didn't kick the ground instead of the ball there's every chance that they'd have scored. We need that sort of creativity in midfield and a world class finisher. Also think that the tempo is a bit slow, not calling for headless chicken mode but fast enough so as to not allow teams to get set against us when we attack.
thfc1882whl
13/01/2013 13:33:00
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I've just written a similar piece on here about wing play and that our 2 wingers don't play wide even when we were set up with 2 strikers and playing against a very resolute and well marshaled parked bus. We haven't got a lock smith as yet so as you say Jod only way is round the outside. Don't even get started on bad delivery from corners and free kicks!!!
longtimespur
13/01/2013 13:40:00
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Arsene Wenger, when he complains that teams don't play the open style of football that he would like to play against, reminds one of the British complaining that a colonial revolution doesn't stand like an imperial army in formation in an open field so the artillary can mow them down. Today the British and Americans complain when the "insurgents" down stand like men to face their tanks. Silly complaints. Shows the idiocy of the one complaining. Would Wenger play an open and flowing style if he were managing a team without the requisite tactical skills and pace. Fool. Disingenuous fool. Like AVB, he needs to figure out how to break down stubborn bus parkers. At least AVB doesn't whing and moan about it. He understands what the nature of the problem is and why it exists.
Total knobhead
13/01/2013 13:41:00
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Interesting article Jod. Like you've touched on I thought we should have played Dempsey earlier, Ade done nothing good and the game was so slow it suited dempseys pace and he might have been able unlock the door. We were also let had on some poor touches and sloppy passing, even from the likes of Parker which you can't afford against such resolute opposition.

All our attacking threat comes from the speed of our wingers, Lennon and Bale rip teams apart but they rely on space to run into to do their damage. VDV and Modric had that creativity in tight situations that would have opened up QPR and maybe we need to replace at least one of them.
T.H.F.Chris
13/01/2013 13:43:00
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*let down by
T.H.F.Chris
13/01/2013 13:46:00
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the fact remains that no-one will win every game and when teams do park the bus, especially on a narrow pitch like at Loftus road then in will be very hard for any team. you need a quick goal and then the flood gates can be opened. AVB knew that, he said as much afterwards, if ade or defoe had found the net in that early chance we would probably have won by a margin and AVB would be hailed as the tactical winner. tactics can't win a game like that alone, you need a moment of creativity which we lack without modric and VDV and we need a clinical finisher
Guernman
13/01/2013 14:02:00
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Ade is too slow and as good as Dembele is he is not actually doing much creating and he doesn't score either.

Without a lethal striker and Defoe as impact sub we will NEVER score enough goals. Defoe deserves to be part of the squad Ade doesn't. Dembele may need to look at playing behind the striker and competing with Siggy and Dempsey and allow us to have a creative midfielder.

Bale is off then in summer so complete reform will happen with more good players and less quality players.
thfan
13/01/2013 14:04:00
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Jod.. good article.. Alan Hansen said the same on MoTd get round outside, turn the defenders.. crosses into box... now a thought... would we welcome Modric back? As he has the skill to pass the ball in packed bus parked defenses tactics....if RM and Jose feel he is not right for them, and he was voted worst buy in Spain... or will we see a summer swop.. bale for modric + cash... Would Modric return.. as he and Daniel Levy have a history...
Block D Spurs
13/01/2013 14:21:00
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modric is still wanted by united and chelsea so can't see us getting him. he wouldn't want to take a step back either
Guernman
13/01/2013 14:23:00
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If Ade had put his chance away in the first five minutes after Defoe's saved and rebounded shot, we wouldn't even be having this discussion. Perhaps the ACN will be doing us a favour as it will give the in-form Dempsey a run of games.
ParkLane67
13/01/2013 14:24:00
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The problem we have is that teams know we lack creativity so it makes it easy and sensible for them to sit back and let us play in front of them knowing we are normally bereft of creative ideas and cutting edge in the final third. It means they are under no pressure to be pulled out of shape defensively because as long as they sit deep and stay compact we don't have the quality to pick our way through. The key for us is to have a creative player in the final third. Even if they are not a world beater the important thing is that they are on the pitch. Their mere presence on the pitch will force teams defending against us to break up their shape as they will have to sacrifice at least one player to mark our 'creator' on the pitch. That is already an improvement on what we currectly have as teams don't have to mark any of our players, they just play zonally and we're stuffed. Just one player on the pitch for us that has the reputation of being creative puts even an ounze of doubt in the mind of our opponents and immediately the situation improves for us. Teams can't then risk not changing their shape to deal with our creative maestro and that opens up spaces for us. It is what was happening for us when Modric was with us. He actually prefered to play deep and wasn't the world's most creative midfielder (a Real Madrid have since found out) but he had a reputation for being creatve and therefoe teams had to make a concious decision to deal with him and that opened up space for the rest of the team. It sounds stupid but it really is that simple.
SpuriousLife
13/01/2013 14:28:00
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Having a right winger who can`t even cross the damn football is a real problem .

Dembele & Sandro are the best central midfield pairing in the league imo .that`s where the controlling of the game comes from .
But in the final 3rd it`s up to Bale ,Defoe ,Adebayor & lennon .All 4 were poor yesterday .Defoe is too inconsistent ,Adebayor is consistently $hit ,Lennon gets the ball & does nothing with it ,very average imo .Bale is world class but had an off day .
Bale has an off day & our attacking threat becomes becomes non existent .

Levy needs 2 players who are better than Adebayor ,Defoe & Lennon .That shouldn`t actually be that hard to find
big cockeral
13/01/2013 14:30:00
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You`re right , it does sound stupid .
big cockeral
13/01/2013 14:32:00
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Nothing to do with the 35 yard defence splitting passes Modric used to make on a regular basis .Who does that now ?

Berbatov & Modric in this team we could be 2nd .
big cockeral
13/01/2013 14:34:00
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BigC - There's a difference between sounding stupid and being stupid!
SpuriousLife
13/01/2013 14:34:00
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LOIC REMY is off to Newcastle
big cockeral
13/01/2013 14:35:00
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I saw the 2nd half yesterday, we were in control.. just did not get the runs to the line and crosses in.. bale and lennon swopped wings,, Bale in central position as well....yet still not crosses in... we have to get back to BAE and Bale on left... Walker / Naughton and lennon right side. SO the runs are made and passes to the wingers are done, and crosses or cut ins passes and shots are made, and goals scored... Our set pieces were bad as well... need more variations..and accurate balls in..
Block D Spurs
13/01/2013 14:41:00
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Don't remember Modric playing defence splitting 30 yard passes that often, more of a keep it ticking over type of player. Not greatly missed either, if we'd wanted to replace Modric then Leon Britten would have been an upgrade. Not fashionable enough but still the best passing stats in europe last season.
thfc1882whl
13/01/2013 14:42:00
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Get Lloris on the ball more, looks like a ball's up with my MOTM comment, you sure that clearance was not a shot off target, hard to tell from yesterday? One option when teams park the bus, is get the ball wide and get crosses into the box, but then we need a centre forward who can at least win headers. We have a forum post on corners and free kicks, they do these in training (free kicks) miss tha target as well. The last home game we took pot shots every time we got in around the box, yesterday the only one from defoe forced a save and Ade missed a golden chance, suprised we never kept that up during the game, ManU just got a second from SET PLAY.
spu 4 life
13/01/2013 14:47:00
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loic remy for a reported fee of 8.3million,come on levy get your finger out
ghulamville
13/01/2013 14:51:00
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Playing in tight small areas and not trying to split the opposition with good pass out to players who should be but are not trying to find space away from the group!we should have won against a ***** qpr team simple.need better players in the last third who can score goals.
Little spur
13/01/2013 15:02:00
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daniel sturridge will be a hell of a player for the scousers me feels
ghulamville
13/01/2013 15:04:00
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If we don't get at least one more quality player in this January then I will have to resign myself to the fact that Levy is not taking us in the right direction and is looking at profit first. It has been obvious we need a quality striker since Berby left and we have brought in only good strikers and good strikers and not good enough. he may think Ade is quality but imo he has potential to be quality but lacks the motivation and mind to be so because he is self obsessed.

I can forgive Levy if he bring just one player in after our initial two players for the future but if he doesn't bring at least one quality when AVB had kept us in it with a weaker squad and losing our better players then that would be criminal.

I hold judgement until end of January but I am getting slightly worried as this window is taking shape of the last one. two early signing then nothing until last day, a panic buy.
thfan
13/01/2013 15:41:00
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jod, did you actually see the game? we did break them down a few times, created excellent chances that were either saved or not taken by our 'strikers', it's not a fact of breaking teams down, it's simply that we're not taking the chances when they come along.
jabbatheyid
13/01/2013 15:49:00
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Can packed defences keep out RVP or Louis Suarez, no they can't as their goal scoring figures prove (RVP 21 by mid January), proper strikers with movement, and goal scorers instincts, and determination, will always score. The choices you have is to go down the sides as you say, to pass to feet into them to buy free kicks, and if you get into the box that is packed, if you get touched, go down, force refs to make decisions. Having said all of that in spite of their packed defence we had 16 shots on goal, 7 on target, a decent striker would score at least 1 in those circumstances. I am 71 fecking years old and I would be gutted to miss the rebound chance that Adebayor missed. GKs can only make the saves you allow them to make, the bloody goal is 8yds x 8ft for Christ's sake.
Frank
13/01/2013 15:55:00
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fantastic stuff in man c vs farce 'n all. red card, penalty save and all. nil nil farce 'n all a man down. lol. a pox on them both, but a loss to farce 'n all the more delicious.
Total knobhead
13/01/2013 16:12:00
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Who would want to be a referee ?

After 2-3 replays he got it 100% spot on ,definite penalty & sending off .Only shame is that this player holding on business , doesn`t get punished more often .Hopefully it doesn`t ruin a potentially great game ,but the ref was left with no choice ,just be consistent
big cockeral
13/01/2013 16:13:00
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Sturridge with regular games, with his pace, movement and general ability, will do well at Liverpool, as he showed today in his debut at OT, he may well be cheap at £12M. Mind you he would be no good for Spurs, or the fans, as his name doesn't in oni, or ez, and he didn't come from La Liga, or Serie A, and every other team in the top half of the PL wasn't after him, unlike most of our alleged targets.
Frank
13/01/2013 16:13:00
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Sturridge would be a good player if he wasn`t so greedy & self indulgent .Glad he didn`t come here ,overrated imo
big cockeral
13/01/2013 16:14:00
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the detestable 10-man farce 'n all go down a goal to the almost equally detestable man c.
Total knobhead
13/01/2013 16:22:00
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to be clear, farce 'n all the most detestable collection of miserable ********s in the football world. good to see them down a man and down a goal.
Total knobhead
13/01/2013 16:25:00
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come on man city rattle a few in
spu 4 life
13/01/2013 16:31:00
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nil-2 at emirates. we may see farce 'n all lose much of the positive goal difference today. pour it on 'em, citeh. spike them on th
Total knobhead
13/01/2013 16:33:00
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funny to see such a mild word censored. but farce 'n all are down by two and their positive goal difference statistic could melt considerably today.
Total knobhead
13/01/2013 16:34:00
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come on city clean sheet and score 6/7 whore 8
spu 4 life
13/01/2013 16:35:00
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Me thinks you've been reading my comments and articles on other sites.
Med1
13/01/2013 16:49:00
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If we dont get the top striker this window then enic have had enough time at spurs!new owners wanted who give a cent about the football team that is spurs.windows are opened for a reason to let the smell and stale air out and let freash air in!come on danial levy take the chance it might be the last one.
Little spur
13/01/2013 16:50:00
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If we don`t sign 2 attacking plyers this window then we can`t start calling him ..............

Denial Levy
big cockeral
13/01/2013 16:52:00
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Packed defence means you have lots of possession and can't use long runs with crosses, so wing play is largely nullified. The way to break it down (no system will work anytime) is to use short, quick touch passes with os of movement. Defoe and Adebayor aren't able to play that way. It's instinctual. They don't have it. Adebayor takes forever and I have yet to see anyone who gets what Defoe is doing. So then it comes down to free kicks, corners and execution. We have the guys to deliver. They just aren't. Bale, Walker, there were chances. There were corners too. You also have to shoot more. Good contact shots where the keeper can do no better than perry and where deflections can change a game. We didn't shoot enough yesterday. Some times we are just too fancy. Even with that, Barca, RM, United, City, with all that talent, don't win every time out. It's why they play the games and why betting exists. Anything can happen. Have a solid Defence, don't concede and you can't lose. Our final third work needs so professional, diligent practice. COYS
peterballb
13/01/2013 17:02:00
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Absolutely Little Spur, and Big C, Levy has until 31/01 to prove that he is a worthy chairman of our beloved club, and has the ambition, drive, and bottle, to allow us to go up up and away, otherwise him and Bahamas Joe should pi$$ off and sell to allow somebody else to have a go. Reminder 13 years, 8 managers, 1 trophy, and still a 36,000 capacity stadium, impressive ain't it.
Frank
13/01/2013 17:06:00
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peterballbso wing play is largely nullified ? that`s complete bollox because when things get congested that`s when wingers come into their own .
Lennon had numerous chances to take on his man but constantly failed ,the left back was even that good .Lennon can`t cross can`t shoot ,brilliant .
And Bale had a poor game ,not slating though because his ratio of good games to bad is brilliant .
The ideas got so bad they were shooting from pathetic distances . No intelligence in our game yesterday ,missing Modric badly
big cockeral
13/01/2013 17:13:00
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Dembele not creative enough. Defoe, Ade and Dempsey do not have the skill to move the ball quickly. Ade is absolutely useless slows everything down and is lazy. Dempsey can score and has some good vision but he is slow and doesn't really fit in to how we want to play he will have a few good games but that is it. Lennon when on fire can be great but is too inconsistent and needs competition. We need a striker that scores. I drul at RVP if we had a player like that what a difference.

In paper today Holtby interested in Everton as he and his dad supports them and his club wanting to get cash and sell now. Not getting good vibes from this kid he seems interested in getting back into the PL but not sure he is committed to wanting to play for us.

Beckham settled in London worth a punt to bring in revenue from shirt sales, raise profile of club abroad, bring some experience in the dressing room and to throw on for Lennon when we need a cross in the box or to actually teach Lennon how to cross the ball. I would love to see Beckham at the club although I doubt it would happen.
thfan
13/01/2013 17:34:00
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thfan -Beckham?!!??!?!?! Are you mad? Or do you still think that Redknapp is our manager?
rahn DMC
13/01/2013 17:51:00
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keep the width, keep the ball, not so many pot shots, lots of movement, not 442. try to keep bale and lennon on their best sides, either breaking into the middle but NOT swapping sides for long periods.
tophobunty
13/01/2013 17:55:00
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Todays referee Mike Dean was sponsored by Clinton Cards.
spu 4 life
13/01/2013 17:58:00
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BigC, when did the ball get out there? When was Lennon and Bale provided a Ball they could run with? There was nothing yesterday. Bale and Lennon both need room to operate. They both like to run with the ball. There was no room. Bale rarely, from a standstill makes a defender look a fool in tight space and Lennon rarely had the ball. How many touches did they get yesterday? If Modric were there in place of Dembele would still have had to deal with the fact that Defoe and Adebayor have no chemistry and are devoid of ideas. So, the only option would have been to go out wide with the ball. And Guess what, with Modric, VDV and ADE in the lineup, teams parked the bus against Harry and got results. Why? Because we didn't use free kicks/corners to full effect and because there was not enough incisive passes. Watch the deft tic-i-tac passing of Mata. These little touches, give and go's require so much understanding between players. How many, in our squad, can make those passes and those runs? I would suggest, not many. Parker, Dawson, Adebayor, Defoe, Walker certainly not. Naughton too, looked really slow of thought yesterday. The guys are running out of ideas and I believe a large part is due to our lacking a real presence in the middle of the park. A true, up top, lone striker and a string-puller are needed along with the wing cover. All of these players must be able to play at pace. Benat, Negredo and Son are probably the best ones out there if it's to be winning now. If it's just to get top 4 and to continue building with young guys, there are other players. Leandro is the striker we need. Moutinho does not make Defoe or Adebayor any better. I question whether he is what we need. I like the way Sandro, Dembele and now Parker are pushing the ball forward. What they need is 4 options for passes as the stride forward. Where were the options yesterday? There was a paucity of useful runs and we thus struggled. Checked the runs and started again. Walker and Naughton needed to free up Bale and Lennon by running outside of them. There was none of that. Our players in possession of the ball greatly lack attacking options. Either that or they can't see it. I'll suggest the latter as I don't recall once seeing Defoe or Adebayor running in to a great shooting space. Defoe and Walker completely lack the football brain to succeed at that stye. Adebayor lacks the motivation. Dawson lacks the football ability it too but all I expect of him is to be sound defensively and give the ball to someone who knows what to do with it. COYS
peterballb
13/01/2013 17:59:00
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I think the first thing we need is a football man who is responsible for signing players. Levy can not get the job done and is becoming a joke figure now. He should get back to the job of getting everything in order to get the stadium built. Then we need a creative midfield player, a top centre forward and a player who will push Lennon for a first team spot. I would have thought if Levy had any brains that the mistakes in the last January transfer window would never happen again. If I was AVB then he must have been given a transfer budget each season plus what he brings in for sales. He has to start banging down doors to get the players he needs in. If as expected Bale goes next season it will really show that the owners are only interested in profit. Levy use to sell we are not a selling club but I'm not too sure about that one. It must be time to cut our losses with JJ, Bentley and get rid now.
nothappyharry
13/01/2013 18:02:00
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thfan, have you been hiding somewhere , we have signed holtby he joins us in july , as for beckham , come on he is finished the man is a clown , let him join the circus at loftus road .
ledleygomez
13/01/2013 18:05:00
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cant be missing moddy as we had him an vdv an still failed to break down teams. and bale is class but world class dont get ahead of urself.
123spurs
13/01/2013 18:07:00
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peterballb Iam not buying that for one minute .Bale was poor he had the ball, & did nothing with it ,simple as that .lennon had the ball & did nothing with it .If you`re so smart check out the 42nd minute .Lennon had the ball ,lost it ,got it back on the rebound ,bad pass lost it ,amazingly got it back again & AGAIN lost it .Our attacking players had the ball but were poor with it ,Adebayor missed 2 sitters .Name me one thing Defoe did in the second half ?

We need a lock picker ,you cannot open a tin of beans without a tin opener ,Spurs don`t have one .Use to have one with Modric ,many succeed in one league & fail in another ,nothing new .

Buy a lock picker for our opponents defences then 4 th is a possibility .Lennon couldn`t even pick his own nose
big cockeral
13/01/2013 18:08:00
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TK I'm loving the historical references in your comments, colonial Britton and a pox on farce'n all, brilliant lol.
T.H.F.Chris
13/01/2013 18:09:00
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Just seen Arsenal v Man City, seen Vincent Kompany get sent off for a tackle in which he won the ball. Yet again the good old fashioned full bodied tackle is penalised. It's a bloody good job the likes of Ron Harris, Mark Dennis, Graham Souness, Norman Hunter, Tommy Smith, Peter Storey, and our beloved Dave Mackay are not playing nowadays, they wouldn't last 10 minutes, first tackle and off. The modern authorities, and referees, are turning football into a girl's game. Perhaps that is the objective, in 10-20 years are we being prepared for open mixed football, we might as well the way we are going.
Frank
13/01/2013 18:16:00
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Arsenal 0 Man City 2, great result, the only pity is before Kompany went City should have got 4 or 5 and cocked their goal difference up. Next week-end if we could only beat Man U at home, although their away record is awesome, it would suit us if Arsenal beat Chelsea, we would be 3rd and Arsenal would still be 6 behind us until their game in hand.
Frank
13/01/2013 18:23:00
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Even when we had Modric and VDV, opposition teams used to park the bus against us and succeed. QPR used the same tactic against Chelsea and won. I think that there are two problems here. 1. Too much is being made of this draw to QPR. 2. The expectations of some Spurs fans on this forum are too high. I don't mind being unpopular by saying that either. I think that some of you need to be more realistic, we can't win or play excellently every week. There will be games when we're poor and lose or draw. That is football.
Fanman
13/01/2013 18:38:00
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"TK I'm loving the historical references in your comments, colonial Britton and a pox on farce'n all, brilliant lol," T.H.F.Chris.

Chris, we aim alternatively to please and to irritate. Thanks for your moral support for the two endeavors.

Total knobhead
13/01/2013 18:40:00
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breaking down defences when you have two jet healed wingers....they need to take their man on on the outside and cross with their stronger foot...we may not have the best CF's in the world but Ade or Dempsey should get into the box as well as the opposite winger at the back post...what you don't is play them on their weaker sides and get them to cut into trouble all game!
shedboy2
13/01/2013 18:42:00
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Fanman - you're right sometimes things don't go for you in footie, sometimes we make mistake...I don't think there's any major gnashing of teeth about not beating QPR...the frustration is bubbling up from the lack of activity in the transfer/striker market...
shedboy2
13/01/2013 18:48:00
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Isn`t the problem more that this was predictable ?
big cockeral
13/01/2013 18:50:00
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Frank- I wouldn't like to go back to people kicking lumps out of each other but Kompany's challenge was controlled (even though his trailing leg was slightly off the deck) and fair....if we take the physicality out of the game we should all just start watching basketball or that other girls game netball...
shedboy2
13/01/2013 18:51:00
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Parker 2nd in MoTM vote...wtf? he showed why he's now Sandro's under-study.
shedboy2
13/01/2013 18:58:00
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shedboy2 Don`t agree at all .Kompany had to go ,it wasn`t malicious but where do you draw the line ? IMO both were reds that wouldn`t have been 20 years ago .But for the good of the game right decisions .Today not a problem ,next week a £20 million superstar has one of his legs broken. You have to protect the better players or you`ll end up watching bench players becoming first teamers .
But you`re not really protecting the player ,you`re protecting the spectator ,something fans like Frank are blind to see .
big cockeral
13/01/2013 18:59:00
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how much were we quoted for Remy? not convinced he was right for us but anyway we can't possibly expect to compete with Giants like Toon with their huge stadium and all the extra revenue that brings in they are light years ahead of us....
shedboy2
13/01/2013 19:01:00
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Back to the article, we did break them down as was stated previously within th efirst five minutes but we have to take our chances. yesterdays game highlighted how far Ade is off his game, good reactions fro Ceasar aside, thats was an open goal he failed to score in! As for set pieces both bale and Walker came within inches of scoring in the first half! Our very limited firepower is what is costing us at the moment. Is there a correlation with Defoe not scoring and Ade playing behind him? Against packed defense away from home surely playing the two "big" men of Ade and Dempsey is the way to go?
Slurms McKenzie
13/01/2013 19:01:00
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BC- I see where you're coming from and to certain point agree but for me that was a controlled challenge, never a leg breaker. Protecting the better players would help if they stopped carding them for diving after they have been fouled...and if they stopped diving in the first place.
shedboy2
13/01/2013 19:04:00
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You can have "blood an snot" challenges without "kicking lumps out of one another, in fact players used to play longer, and more career games then than many do now. Football is supposed to be a man's game, with controlled physical contact, so that you have to be brave and show resolve to prevail, not try and out do your rivals tattoo count, it's more like TOWIE than a mans game.
Frank
13/01/2013 19:04:00
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shedboy2, agreed. The lack of transfer activity is making people a bit nervy. Newcastle signing Remy won't help with that either. We can all see the areas that we need to improve in, but we aren't getting the players in that we need. If we don't sign anyone in January and we miss out on a Champions League spot there will be a backlash by the fans against Levy I think. It would be criminal if we didn't bring in anyone in January.
Fanman
13/01/2013 19:05:00
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yep, Fanman - I can see it going that way too...
shedboy2
13/01/2013 19:06:00
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Apparantly we're interested in Son Heung-Min. He can play on either wing or as a striker. That is just what we need. Give Lennon aand Bale something to think about.
Fanman
13/01/2013 19:09:00
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...after-all we fired a manager who on the face of it was doing a good job (this is not a pro-arry stance nor an Arry debate) but had a number of underlying problems....we can 'fire' our owners who on the face of it are doing a good job but also have underlying issues, can't we?
shedboy2
13/01/2013 19:10:00
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shedboy2 It`s all about keeping the best players on the pitch .
Suarez,RVP ,Bale ,Rooney ,Aguero etc etc like it or not they need protecting ,they make the game what it is
big cockeral
13/01/2013 19:12:00
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shedboy2, nope. Nothing that we can do about the owners. Recently I've been fearing that we'll end up as frustrated as the Arsenal fans are at their board.
Fanman
13/01/2013 19:15:00
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fanman- at the start of the window most people agreed that we needed a striker and creative mid....but we sign for next year and the future (not a bad thing) now hopefully we'll still do something this window (although it's still bad management to be left in our current striker predicament) Son Heung-Min not seen the guy but again do we need a 'potential' signing to consolidate or a proven player? it's almost Saha and Nelson in reverse instead of being past it they ain't quite there yet...but they are cheap!
shedboy2
13/01/2013 19:16:00
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...after-all we fired a manager who on the face of it was doing a good job (this is not a pro-arry stance nor an Arry debate) but had a number of underlying problems....we can 'fire' our owners who on the face of it are doing a good job but also have underlying issues, can't we?

Oh dear shedboy 2 ,the apple really does fall far from the tree .You used to be intelligent ,Harry got sacked through his own politics that he himself created .The contract was there for him to sign ,he said NO .
Best thing Levy ever did was get rid of Harry .Since 2012 we won 1 away game under Harry ,& lost to Norwich & drew with Stoke at home
big cockeral
13/01/2013 19:20:00
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fanman- If Arse don't qualify for CL you watch what they will do about the owners....they'll stop going and hit them in the pocket. There are already lot's of empty seats (granted paid for at the moment) We're a long way from a rebellion yet but they creep up when/where you least expect them...
shedboy2
13/01/2013 19:21:00
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