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A Blessing Undisguised?

So it would appear that we have seen the last of Emmanuel Adebayor, at least for a few weeks.

Now I hold my hands up by stating that I believed he was a good buy for us in the summer, and I still have a feeling that the structure of the deal made by Mr Levy may well allow us to move him on in the summer, with little or no loss financially, because he is now in a position where his wages are not so stupidly high to put off 99% of clubs and the extra 1% didn't want or need him. Today and for most of his appearances this season, however, my initial optimism has all but disappeared.

Of course there were some big question marks over his signing on from City. First and foremost, he does have a bit of a reputation for losing focus and love for his clubs. Add to that we changed managers, with no absolute certainty that AVB really wanted him and only took him because it was him or trying to convert Heurelho Gomes back into a striker. Add different tactics, injuries and the form of Jermain Defoe and seemingly a lack of chemistry between the pair, and we have plenty or reasons to lament our decision to bring back the player, despite his success last season.

There does remain the debate over whether Adebayor would work better alone, with one of Dempsey or Sigurdsson supporting and that like so many strikers, he lives or dies on confidence, something which he appears to have lost, but also he still seems incapable of playing quick incisive football, and as with last season, despite scoring a good percentage of goals and assists, is the one Spurs player that has me pulling my hair out, because I can't decide whether he doesn't quite have the ability or simply doesn't have the hunger. How often, this or last season are you shouting at him for his terrible touch, hanging on to the ball for to long, lacking vision, or simply not attacking the ball or the opposition player? The answer is loads!

Losing Adebayor for up to six weeks, may well leave AVB short on options and Defoe short on rest, but will this force us back into playing more towards a 4-2-3-1/4-4-1-1 formation, perhaps more an AVB ideal, but also one that will bring back the best in Defoe, whilst also giving more game time to the in form Dempsey and the improving Sigurdsson. As a contrast, I have also wondered if this represents an opportunity for Jon Obika to at least have a chance to break into the squad. He may never play for Spurs again, but would he have done any worse that Emmanuel if he has played eighteen times this season?

This isn't meant to be a dig at Adebayor, more a look at whether his absence actually brings us improvement in goals and form from our striking two. The stats clearly show that Adebayor has really struggled for goals, with two in the league (Arsenal, Reading) and one Europa success against Panathinaikos. I know goals aren't everything, but 3 in 18 appearances isn't what we expect or need. If goals don't happen, the least you expect is for supreme effort as a compensation.

Jermain's stats still look good with 16 in 33 games, but when paired with Adebayor in a 4-4-2, he looks a shadow of the player that many (including myself) doubted could ever play as a lone striker. Initially I thought that a partnership between Adebayor and Defoe would work very well, and whilst I still feel they have the physical qualities to work together, I now doubt they have the mental ones. Sure Jermain got a great hat-trick against Maribor, when I felt they played really well individually, however did they clic as a pair? Not for me!

Since that game, Defoe has scored six goals in fourteen games, which isn't a million miles from his whole season stats, however his double brace against Fulham and West Ham were achieved without Adebayor in the side. Suddenly strikers with two in twelve and the other with three in eighteen simply doesn't look good enough, so whether Adebayor stayed or went, I think AVB needed to do something, whether that was to bang their heads together and make them work as a pair, or accept they can't or won't work together and play one or the other.

Over the next few games, we might well have a conclusion to this debate. Perhaps we will see a new striker join. Perhaps Defoe will suddenly re-find his form on his own, or finally we realise that Defoe is simply tired and losing form as a result of too many minutes, too soon in the season. Personally I have a feeling that a pairing of Defoe and Dempsey next weekend will be impressive, with Jermain working and moving with greater freedom and energy than we have seen him for a few weeks. West Ham and Fulham to be exact.

Perhaps as fans we also need to take note. Many of us were demanding we return to a 4-4-2 and also insisting we play Defoe and Adebayor or just play Adebayor. At the time, it may well have been because neither Clint or Gylfi had settled, so we do have a legitimate get out of jail free card. Did AVB agree with us, bow or capitulate to fan pressure at a time when we were struggling as a team?

Now one or both of our main strikers either need to alter their ego's or accept they can't play together and as a result will probably play less games. Jermain now has a great opportunity to not only prove that he has the hunger and ability to play on his own, but also perhaps the club from bringing in a new striker to replace not only him, but Adebayor as well...

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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Monday January 14 2013
Time: 9:37AM

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Please Mr Levy we need a striker, I thought Remy would have been worth a gamble.
Yido T
14/01/2013 09:52:00
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Whether Adebayor goes or stays, we need a striker.
Shannon
14/01/2013 09:56:00
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You have missed the main point here I feel - WE NEED A NEW STRIKER. If we don't get one in before the United match I would expect to see Parker and Sandro in the middle with Dembele pushed further up in a three man midfield. As Liverpool showed yesterday in the second half, if you sit on Carrick in the middle of the pitch then the supply is cut off. Parker, Sandro and Dembele on top of Carrick and Cleverley and we could see a positive result...
Sebthespur
14/01/2013 09:58:00
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I don't think they really click as a pair because both want to be the focal point...Ade to his credit has come back from injury and taken the role of provider but you can see it doesn't sit well with him. We had an opportunity to play Ade up top on his own against QPR with Gylfi or Dempsey supporting for me that was the perfect time to see if a) Ade was up for it (b he could score c) Gylfi could work the 10 role (d not alienate Defoe as he was being protected for the run of games whilst Ade was away e) would mean we still had time in the window to address the situation....but now we have to play defoe not knowing when Ade comes back what part he's still got a part to play...and we have to make a decision on a striker in the next 2 weeks....
shedboy2
14/01/2013 09:59:00
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I feel Defoe's game has not been the same since Ade got back into the side. Defoe started slow with the lone striker role and at first it didn't work but credit to him and the manager he embraced it worked hard and we started to pay dividends. however, Siggy and Dempsey were woeful and many of us wanted Ade as we thought with Defoe on fire and Ade return we would be awsome but it hasn't happened. Defoe is no longer on fire and Ade has been poor.

Why this is could be a number of reasons 1) egos between the striker 2) Defoe no longer has the room to move as much 3) Defoe has stopped working because psychologically he doesn't feel like no 1 again and because he feels he has a partner now and doesn't need to work so hard 4) Ade slows up our game 5) Ade doesn't like AVB instructions 6) Ade wants to be no 1 7) Ade is being Ade he has got his money and he is not bothered 8) The pair just cannot play together 9) Both are not good enough to be consistent 10) Formation is not working.

Now when Ade came back Dempsey and Siggy were benched but now we have seen an improvement from both of them. Although I still not sure they are the answer to what we want to achieve. I think Ade away will give AVB an opportunity to start Dempsey and hopefully we will see him continue to improve and Defoe to get back to his goal scoring if that happens then it is simple don't change it when Ade comes back.

However, it may all go pear shaped and we may see that Defoe doesn't find is form again and Dempsey just doesn't deliver either and this will point towards non of the players being good enough including Ade.

There is a possibility Ade could play with Dempsey and Defoe dropped but has Ade done enough to warrant being no 1. He like all players should earn their place and Ade hasn't taken his chances imo. He has been lazy, poor touch, too slow and woeful in front of goal.

I am actually happy he has gone because I am fed up of watching him. Every time he goes for a header he doesn't win it. Every time he gets the ball he loses it or is too slow in moving it on and he has brought nothing in terms of goals, assists and general work ethic.

I am getting concerned about Defoe's recent form and I am hoping this improves now Ade is away and he gets scoring again and starts to up his work rate.

Personally as we all know we need a sharp prolific striker to show them how it is done and kick them both up the bum. I am not going against Defoe because he is Spurs through and through and did well under AVB in the beginning when things were difficult but now Ade is away if he doesn't step up I will start to feel against him regardless that I really like him. There is no excuse for laziness for any player.
thfan
14/01/2013 10:11:00
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you have to assume that we dont fancy Remy or rather AVB doesn't. perhaps that means we are actively trying to get someone else or a different type of player. it is interesting to see how AVB seems totally disinterested in certain players that fans almost demand we sign. Sahin is a perfect second example. seems he nailed it with that decision,
oxfordspur
14/01/2013 10:11:00
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Let me start by saying that Saturdays’ match was the worst game of football and by far the most lack lustre performance ive seen all season. Dembele was utterly useless and got completely bossed by m’bia. Apart from the opening 10 mins at the start and 10mins after half time we posed absolutely no threat. The need for a striker is so blindingly obvious I cant believe it. ADE gave the worst performance from a professional footballer I have seen in a long time. Quite frankly, I wouldn’t play him again this season. Dempsey had 3 touches in 20mins when he came on. We are missing that bit of extra class, to get that bit of class we need to spend the money. We are on a good run of from at present but it’s not taking 3 points against the bottom of the league that will cost us in the long run. Once again we find ourselves in the position where if we spend a few quid now we will raep the rewards at the end of the season. Once again I bet we will make the same mistake. One thing that showed the difference for me was when Lloris threw the ball out to parker, only for him to turn around and pas it back to dawson, at which point Lloris went mental! He has played at a club with a winning mentality. That is the difference.
hudderspur
14/01/2013 10:14:00
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Without Ade in the side could we expect Dawson to stop hoofing the ball up ? I'm already fed up with it !
RamsesV
14/01/2013 10:19:00
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I agree SB2, AVB should have used JD as the impact sub on Saturday. Crazy to leave out Dempsey when he's on a roll. And taking Lennon off when Walker was already exposed has brought back all my concerns about his tactical substitutions.
Love totty
14/01/2013 10:20:00
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LT- yep missed a trick and after winning the manager of the month award....still most managers go on a strong run after winning that don't they....:(
shedboy2
14/01/2013 10:25:00
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Why not have a cheeky punt on Darren Bent? He's good in the system we play in, out of favour at Villa and could represent value for money at this time of year... He wouldn't have to contend with the Berbatov/Keane partnership with Defoe in the wings or have a manager that tells the general public his 'missus would have scored that header'
nzyido
14/01/2013 10:26:00
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oxfordspur- re: Remy Or we just can't compete with them as they are a big club....(someone will bite)
shedboy2
14/01/2013 10:29:00
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Darren Bent....phuck sake im glad some of you lot aint the gaffer. Why dont we get Crouchy back on loan as well.
hudderspur
14/01/2013 10:29:00
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i have to say there has been some sparkle between the front pair...
SpursWho
14/01/2013 10:30:00
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Reckon Adebayor has got the goods too but is a form player and needs the arm round his shoulder to be told he is the man. He had a protracted transfer, was injured at the start of the year, got sent off just after getting back in the side, said it wasn't going to be his year shortly after. Give him some time...
nzyido
14/01/2013 10:31:00
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bahaha Hudderspur, what's your suggestion? Can see the problems within the team highlighted in your post but no solution ;-)
nzyido
14/01/2013 10:36:00
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Ade & Defoe = No chemistry. Oil and water, both useful in their own individual ways but simply cannot get on the same wavelength when it comes to football. Ade needs to find the form of last season. I am hoping he can find his mojo with Togo and come back strong for the final third of the season. Defoe is an awkward striker and in the grand scheme of things is an average footballer, but he is with us, no one else will buy him, so we have to find a way to make it work. We'll find out in the coming weeks whether he can 'co-operate' with other forwards. Plenty of games coming up, so maybe we'll see a Dempsey / Siggy combo up front. I still say a 15 million bid for Michu is the best bet for us.
thenuge
14/01/2013 10:49:00
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shlok27
14/01/2013 10:49:00
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Solution is get some quality in the team. Dempsey Siggy are both average Journeyman IMO. They are not going to win matches. There are plenty of players out there who would add so much creativity in the midfield or strikers who could score the goals. Up front, my choices that would fit into the clubs “youth policy” and wouldn’t cost £35m each would be Ricky Van Wolfswinkle (23) or Bojan Krkic (22). Two very different types of striker but it all depends on the system etc that AVB wants to play. As a straight out and out no9 I can’t think of any reason why we haven’t gone in for Llorente.
hudderspur
14/01/2013 10:53:00
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Ade was poor but Defoe had a great shot in the first half and that was it. His form is also dreadful. If we want to play 4-4-2 then we need 2 new strikers but Ade, Demspey and Defoe as reserves, or even better sell one of Defoe or Ade. Love Totty, taking off Lennon was simply because he did nothing, Walker wasn't really exposed as the ball was generally in their half, they parked the bus for Christ sake. We simply cannot break down a team that has everyone behind the ball. We a team sets up like that it is important to score early, which will make them come out and attack. QPR nicked 3 points off of Chelsea and 1 from us by setting up not to lose and take your chances if you get one. Man Utd will come onto us which in turn will allow us to attack against less men.
yiddyboy
14/01/2013 11:05:00
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Does anyone know if Ade's gets paid by THFC while he swans of on holiday for maybe six weeks.
Yido T
14/01/2013 11:07:00
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I get the feeling Remy was a player Harry wanted. He's tried to sign him for QPR & if he was one of our main targets we'd be in there by now. If we go in late I get the feeling it'll be more a case of not wanting to let a possible bargain slip by rather than having any real interest.

Ade & Defoe seem to get in each others way when they play up top together & both seem to relish the space they get when played alone. It's also notable how much their work rate improves when they play as a lone striker. I'd go one up front with the other used to change the game from the bench, at least that way AVB has a potential game changing sub at his disposal.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 11:09:00
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Javier Pastore Anyone? Done sweet FA at PSG and apparentley he and the club have had numerous fall outs. They paid £32m for him but honestley could ask fot that as his stock has fallen since 2011 even tho he is still only 23. He could be our David Silva if we got him performing. Stick a bid in and see what happens.
hudderspur
14/01/2013 11:12:00
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hudderspur I noticed Lloris kicking off a couple of times, especially with poor passing decisions. Like you say he's a winner.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 11:12:00
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for me the problem will always be defoe. he is too selfish, doesn't gel with anyone and doesn't anticipate crosses. he scores in batches, and his chance conversion rate is very poor, 1 goal per 9 shots so far this season. we are accommodating him and everyone else suffers. people go on about adebayors attitude but defoe actually causes a much bigger fuss when he is dropped. ade wants to be number 1, thats what he was last season and that is what he expected when he came back. his attitude is nothing to do with finally getting a contract IMO but rather to being second choice. I would love to see how we play without defoe with either dempsey or siggy partnering adebayor. I prefer AVB to harry in almost every respect, except in the question of defoe
Guernman
14/01/2013 11:12:00
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OX, "you have to assume that we dont fancy Remy...". Good point. IMO he knows whom he wants in this window and things are in motion to make it happen. What many are not realising is that this is the FIRST proper window of AVB's tenure. He is now under REAL test and it would be interesting to see whom he has in mind. Remy was linked to us constantly under Harry, but seems we (AVB) were just not interested in him this time round. AVB would've had a long hard look at our squad and I am convinced he has earmarked new additions. However, I wouldn't be surprised if Levy is being Levy and not making things happen in a timely fashion. If no one is signed by the end of the window, then I would be truly disappointed and wondering about our ambitions this season. It'd be a shame to come this far (4th) and potentially give no support to your manager. COYS!
Critical_Spur
14/01/2013 11:13:00
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Amen Guernman
yiddyboy
14/01/2013 11:18:00
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I'd sell Defoe now whilst top dollar can be gained £8m-£10m? Buy a goal poacher, someone like Hernandez. In the summer sell Ade and spend £20-£25m on a top striker as long as CL football is achieved
yiddyboy
14/01/2013 11:22:00
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I don't know why so many seem to think Defoe is so great, he may love the Spurs but so did/do O'Hara and Dawson. But they are also not world beaters.
yiddyboy
14/01/2013 11:24:00
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With Sneijder stalling on a move(he's said he's happy to wait til deadline day) that we'll make a last gasp move for him. Leave it til Inter are desperate & then do a deal on Levy's terms. It's how he works & It seems clear that Sneijder wants a PL move.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 11:25:00
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And as for Dawson, he made 1 great cross field pass to Bale and then everything else ended up in the stands. I'm thinking he's a spot betting man and likes to bet on the number of throw-ins.
yiddyboy
14/01/2013 11:26:00
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It’s hardly a holiday is it? He is traveling to play as their captain. Both Ade and Defoe didn't exactly have their best games. Losing one of them isn’t a blessing thou, because we could be short. 3 forwards are better than 2. Just because one of our guys hasn’t found the net in a few games, doesn’t mean he won’t pop up and have a scorcher in the next. Against QPR Defoe had that one clear shot that Cesar brilliantly saved, Ade bounded in, around their defender and Cesar again got down to it. I'm sure that would have changed the game had either shot gone in. Both can produce and play with fire so we need to get behind the lads as their form needs to return and quick. Credit to rangers thou, they were setup well with 2-3 players around our attackers all the time. Big game next week and we can expect more of the same from their defenders. I guess we will go for a fill in option while Ade’s away...if at all….I’m hearing we went in for Remy again but he’s probably off to Newcastle after all. Summer is the best time imo as we will have more options to pick from. Lot of guys here have been saying the same all along. Focus should be on a creative midfielder. COYS.
SpursOne2
14/01/2013 11:30:00
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I'm not at all disappointed we didn't sign Remy. But it doesn't take much to realize that we have a problem at the front line (or we have an absence of a front line). I wrote in the summer before Adebayor was signed that I wasn't enthused, given his history of alienation from previous teams and his regression of form after his one good year with each of his previous clubs, but last year he was winning me over. This year, my fears seem to have been realized. I cannot take much credit for this insight, as the whole world saw this coming to one extent of another. But even so, Adebayor has a lot to do to convince us now that his signing wasn't a large mistake. I'm of the belief that the lad has the requisite talent, but he's a complicated man with many psychological distractions. Something about him that I like, but he's certainly a frustration to have on our squad. Maybe a trip to the home continent can help to bring him some peace of mind and he can return a bit recharged.
Total knobhead
14/01/2013 11:36:00
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Second to RamsesV on the frustration with Dawson knocking these aimless long balls that tend merely to turn the ball over to the other team. I understand why AVB was ready to sell his contract at the beginning of the season. Daws has so many good aspects, but surely the lad can be taught to stop these aimless long balls. It's completely antithetical to everything else AVB is trying to instill in the team. Enough Daws. Stop this now if you want to save your career at N17.
Total knobhead
14/01/2013 11:41:00
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"Does anyone know if Ade's gets paid by THFC while he swans of on holiday for maybe six weeks," Yido T.

of course he does.

Total knobhead
14/01/2013 11:44:00
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hudderspur,Lloris was def not happy with the lack of winning mentality with some players and was spot on.him and sandro seemed to be the only two in the team.sad but shows up most weeks.
bazdog
14/01/2013 11:45:00
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Totally agree with spursallday,Ade & Defoe work better up front alone than with each other.I've thought for some time that the best combination is either one up front with Demsey providing the movement behind & supplying the clever through balls that his intelligence can spot.I don't think there is anyone else in the squad as creative in that hole behind the front man that Dempsey fills.
Greavesaboveall
14/01/2013 11:47:00
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Ade is a one goal in 4 good chances man, so his lack of goals are no real surprise to me this season. Last season we used to create many more chances for him,mayb that was down to VdVs and his qualities?? So I wouldn't say it is down to his attitude, more down to his woeful finishing of some real pi** easy chances!!
WestStandEnclosure
14/01/2013 11:48:00
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Sandro to play on Sunday according to some reports on line? Did AVB really say this? Any official word on Sandro's condition? We're certainly a weaker team without him.
Total knobhead
14/01/2013 11:48:00
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On reflection I really should have checked that last sentence before I put it out!
Greavesaboveall
14/01/2013 11:51:00
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At the moment playing a 4-4-1-1 with Dempsey looks a better bet than 4-4-2 with Adebeyor. I've got more cofidence in Dempsey to get goals. For a few seasons now we have had problems with strikers, back to when we lost the Berbatov/Keane partnership really. To my mind what we need is a Dzeko type centre forward, someone who may not be the prettiest but consistently gives the central defenders problems and gets goals. Physically there's no reason Adebeyor couldn't do that, but it just doesn't seem to be in him. We've made up for the lack of goals up front by healthy contributions from midfield, what worries me is what happens when Bale finally leaves. Having said all that strikers are expensive, AVB had better get the signing right. If he's not confident in the player then don't sign him. We were apparantly looking at Michu at one point but passed on him. If we'd made that signing we wouldn't be having this discussion.
jod
14/01/2013 11:57:00
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Greaves...LOL!...but those holes need filling, with a big boot up the backside!
Critical_Spur
14/01/2013 12:02:00
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Anyone who voted to get Adebayor 1% of the MOTM tally must surely be taking the pi$$!! I said on a thread on Friday that I believed from day one that he was a big mistake on a permanent transfer, and week in week out I'm sorry to say I was bang on the money. Anyone, and I mean ANYONE would be an improvement on him. Take your pick from Moussa Sow, Doumbia, Lamella, Lewandowski, the usual suspects (Damiao/Negredo etc.....) but please GOD give us a fighting chance of at least hanging onto our position. We phucked up royally this time last year by not strengthening and it cost us massively, and we CAN'T let it happen again. Goals win games, and at the moment if our midfielders don't score then neither do we. Come what may, in the summer I want rid of Adebayor, Defoe, and probably Dempsey. We need strikers who we can rely on to score consistently, especially given the likely departure of Bale to our 'partners' in Spain. Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
14/01/2013 12:03:00
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jod I think that a Dzeko type is what AVB is looking at as we're constantly linked with Damiao & Negredo who are both big, physical strikers. Hopefully they're better finishers than Dzeko too, it's what lets him down. Sometimes in that final moment he just seems to get over excited & doesn't set himself properly.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 12:04:00
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Good article Ox, but with respect it all but misses the point. Rather than "make do and mend"by fidddling with formations, and playing square pegs in round holes whilst Adebayor is absent, the real answer is to go out and buy a decent striker, who, might, with the chances we make, crosses that go in, score as many or more than Defoe an Adebayor do put together. We missed an opportunity to get in for Demba Ba before Chelsea did, possibly with Sturridge, but not in my opinion with Remy. At the moment Spain is on it's arse, some of the clubs are insolvent, there must be opportunities there if you are brave enough, determined enough, and realistic about offers, and the value of players. The guy Negredo from Seville, one of the clubs that are skint, would seem ideal, his goal/game ratio is far better than what we have, both for his club and country, £12-15M would probably get him. We should undoubtedly take the opportunity in this window to bring a striker in. Even when he is here, Adebayor is hardly worth his place these days, and the goals yield from him and Defoe is just not good enough, neither is their combined chance conversion rate. We are a Jaguar team, trying to get by with a Ford Ka strike force. I am afraid we are stuck with Adebayor due to his massive wages subsidy from Man City for 2 years of his 3 year deal, if that is not transferable, who is going to take him on £175k/Wk, so we may have to live with him as a bench warmer, if we sign better, which we must do if we seriously want to finish in the top 4, and have CL football next season. Saturday's game at QPR was a prime example of what happens if you miss scarce chances, and have 7 shots on target failing to score, 2 points thrown away exactly the same as v WBA, Norwich, and Stoke at home, it simply is not good enough. The remedy is so obvious.
Frank
14/01/2013 12:11:00
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Can anyone clarify the situation with Bentley's contract? Has he got 18 months to run or is it 6 months with us having an option to extend it by a further year? Just reports are suggesting he's out of contract but when we signed him I'm sure it was a 6 year deal. If he's out then fantastic! Him, Jenas & Gomes off the wage bill in 6 months.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 12:13:00
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Willian & Negredo would make bus parking a thing of the past. With Willian's dribbling ability he'd just dance past them, or at least get tripped to earn us a dangerous free kick. Plus he's Brazilian so he can probably take them as well! Negredo would give us that sledgehammer that we lack. Power & strength, park that bus all you want a big strong bully up top would smash through it, like Drogba would.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 12:21:00
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Spurs Allday- I thought he still had 18mths to go but I have seen a few articles and posts mentioning he'll be gone in the summer, I too would like confirmation?
shedboy2
14/01/2013 12:23:00
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iago aspas
ghulamville
14/01/2013 12:23:00
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shedboy2 I've just read the BBC article when we signed him & it states that he has a contract "up to six years" which may suggest that it is 5 with an option of a sixth. I'm sure Berbatov was on a 4 year deal with an option to extend by a further 2 so it wouldn't be the first time we've used this method.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 12:26:00
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Spurs Allday, I think we are stuck with him until he is ready for the old folks home. Who in their right mind would want him, let alone what Levy might be asking for him! Despite not making a needy signing so far, I am amazed at the lack of news regarding departures.
Critical_Spur
14/01/2013 12:26:00
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i have never really rated negrado that highly tbh,imo he is a worser version of llorente,thats probably why seville are trying to cash in on negrado and bilbao arewilling to have llorente leave on a free rather than take money now
ghulamville
14/01/2013 12:28:00
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Spurs Allday, I think you will find that Bentley was on a 5 year deal, with an additional 1 year option. I can't remember when he came (it seems about 10 years ago) but his deal can't have long to run, along with Jenas, and Coco the clown, as you say.
Frank
14/01/2013 12:28:00
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seems to me we need to play 451/433 in the next game at least anyway, a fluid system switching between the two ideally. We can and need to beat United next Sunday. I would defo 5000000% play a left footer at left back, ideally BAE. Naughton could play right back. Bale and Lennon left and right repectively, cutting in when its good and breaking. I would seriously consider throwing in something unexpected such as Townsend as a los front man, they had quick pace on the deck when back peddling, they would love SIggy and Dempsey cart horsing around it front of them, get at them and win, anything else = very possible defeat. pace pace pace
tophobunty
14/01/2013 12:29:00
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Looks to me as if the jury is out on the performances of Ade to date, his not looked the same player, on loan he played as the loan striker with VDV behind him, Defoe was then most used as a sub. His had the time required to gain his fitness, he has good movement but not enough of it and at times looks as if he would rather be some were else. Well over the next few weeks he will be, so we go back to how we started the season without him, Defoe on his own again supported by Dempsey (who was unlucky not to start on saturday) we know the next game is going to be a hard one, but they did the job away, we will get chances next week, lets hope we don't headline ''spurs missed Adebayor'' but then what if he gets injured in the ACON? We have a top striker in Defoe, but another would not go a miss.
spu 4 life
14/01/2013 12:34:00
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ghulamville Llorente would be perfect for us. Whats happened with his move to Juve? It seemed like it was just a case of signing a contract but it's gone very quiet & Juve are being linked with every other striker on the market?? Maybe a chance to strike, but I'm not getting my hopes up. We do need that type of striker though. A strong, areial type like Dzeko, Llorente, Damiao, Negredo etc
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 12:35:00
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Press saying Blackburn are interested in Bentley. Judging by their antics since the Venk's arrival, they just might be daft enough.
Frank
14/01/2013 12:35:00
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Thanks Frank. Lets hope we can, at the very least, get them out on loan to ease the wage bill.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 12:37:00
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United could be without Young & Vidic, both got knocks during the Liverpool game & United also have West Ham in the cup this week so lets hope hope they lose a couple more or at least suffer fatigue.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 12:42:00
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The rumour mill has been very quiet for us in this window. Could it be that Levy is doing some behind the scenes huh hush negotiations. I think not. I just don't think we are signin anyone. As peterbalb has been saying in previos posts, the value of the club is rocketing so why would ENIC/Levy risk £20 - £30m on when they don't need to!!
jonathan01
14/01/2013 12:43:00
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Spurs 4 life, I don't think the jury is out on Adebayor's form this season, he has simply been poor. He looks de-motivated, disinterested, listless, and as if he wants to be elsewhere. He has been a one season wonder everywhere he has been in England, looks as though we are no different.
Frank
14/01/2013 12:43:00
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how about putting in a 12million bid for andy carroll-clearly he is not needed by rodgers,this guy has so much potential and is only 23
ghulamville
14/01/2013 12:44:00
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Juve have stated no signigns in Jan, so either its BS or we could steal Llorente.
hudderspur
14/01/2013 12:55:00
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Poor old Ade looks like he more likely to fall over his own feet at the moment than score. We do need another striker (and a bit more creativity in the middle)
SPUDMAN
14/01/2013 13:02:00
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Spurs Allday - Thing is the physique is only part of it, Adebeyor has that. You need the mental toughness and determination too. The problem with any overseas striker is you don't know whether or not he can do it in the premier league until after you sign him.
jod
14/01/2013 13:08:00
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Gomez is in Brazil to possibly finalise a move back to Brazil apparently as makeweight to a striker deal
ItalianYiddo
14/01/2013 13:31:00
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hello Italian, where did you pick that up?
tophobunty
14/01/2013 13:40:00
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Not sure which is worse, watching saturday dire game, or having to read the same ole posts about how poor are strikers are in every article since saturday.......
Ossie
14/01/2013 13:42:00
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Frank - in response, i don't like to pick on players, they are playing for our team, some have limited ability to us, but are professional footballers and we all know that if we had that ability and was playing for spurs we would walk off that pitch cream crackered every week, our love for the club is 110%. The question we have to ask is if we can see his a lost leader, then surely AVB does, the next step is what to do about it? As supporters every post mentions ''A new Striker'' so how many transfer windows does it take for us to go an buy one, we are still waiting, some buys work out some don't, we will never find another Jimmy Greaves, Chivers who did come good, Gilzean, Smith, Lineker, Crooks and Archibald, but we will find lots of Pav's and Redrov's if we are not careful. You have seen some great players, same as me since 1959, I don't know how long you started watching them, the younger guys want success on here, well so do i and if it means spending a few bob, Levy should go and do it. otherwise we might just fade away. I hope not.
spu 4 life
14/01/2013 13:43:00
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Jod I totally agree. Whoever it is has to have that aggressive side to him. We need a big guy who's not afraid to give defenders as good as he gets. Adebayor rarely went up for an aerial challenge with Hill & Nelson. We need a guy who's not scared of the rough stuff. No point in being a big strong CF if they act like a big wuss.
Spurs Allday
14/01/2013 13:44:00
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Gomez is in Brazil !!! he was told to go home and find another club, weeks ago.
spu 4 life
14/01/2013 13:47:00
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Ossie, fair point, but how many windows are we going to go through until it is resolved. I think you will find its been brought up in every article since berba left, not just since saturday. I hate to say this but i was right about defoe. Looks like this is gonna be yet another inconsistant season for him. same every year!
hudderspur
14/01/2013 13:50:00
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Yes, we need a striker, pronto! Top targets must be Damiao/Llorente, but I really really would like Levy to buy the most promising young swedish striker I've seen since Henrik Larsson - John Guidetti. Perhaps that's a better fit for our team since we got two senior strikers on the books already, both expecting to start - Ade's coming back... But for John it still would be an improvement with only two players ahead of him in his position instead of all the stars he's competing against i City?
spurswede
14/01/2013 13:53:00
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I've said it before and I'mk going to say it again. Juve want Llorente but can't afford him or his saary with their current squad. If we went to them with a sensible offer (£20m) for both Vucinic and Vidal together they woud seriously consider it. It would give us a Berbatov type striker in Vucinic (not the most prolific at the moment but he can be and always has been when in the right team) and a hard running, forward thinking, strong but tricky creative midfielder in Vidal. They already work well together and would help each other settle. It would be a cheap and eminently sensible solution to our current problems.
SpuriousLife
14/01/2013 13:53:00
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I've said it tie and time again Dawson is hopelessly slow, constantly caught out positionaly and destroys the way the team plays with that god damn useless, posession wasting, glory seeking diagonal ball.
spurticus87
14/01/2013 13:55:00
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