Is Yann the Man?

First things first Sandro is irreplaceable ,

Yann M`villa has an attitude problem so after Adebayor surely once bitten twice shy

Get Benhanda in. He is more of what we need. Sign Sissokho to a pre-contract and you have cover next year should Sandro not be back or Parker want to go somewhere where he can start. I'd just get Holtby in now, if we can, as another option/cover. COYS

Bring Holtby deal forward. Forget M'Villa. Bad attitude that we don't want or need. Next...

It's got to be worth a little cash to get Holtby now. Even if he isn't used much, it's more time to prepare him for the PL for next season. You know it makes sense, I know it makes sense.........

Why everyone calling to bring Holtby deal fwd? He's not a DMF! We have cover in Parker, Jan, jake, so no need to panic!

m'vila hell no, bad arse attitude one reason wenger dropped him, not short term and his not long term. Schalke vs Hannover is on the stream @ 7-3opm

Good article, and a fair question, but there is no such thing as a bargain for our Danny, unless he can get him cheap, and get his former club to pay half his wages. Yes the guy is a bargain, he has 22 French international caps, and we could sell, or loan out, Livermore and Hudlestone, neither of whom are good enough for a club with top 4 aspirations, and have Parker and M'Villa vying for the DMF role for the rest of the season. Once Sandro comes back, depending how M'Villa has performed, we could then look at Parker's future, given his age. OK the guy is a bit of a lad off the pitch, and an absolute animal on it, perhaps it's his "attitude" that gives him the edge, making him the player he is. Of course we shouldd be looking at him, but definitely won't be, the same as we won't be looking at anyone else either,

If Parker gets injured, then who do we have? Its clear that Livermore is not in the the same class. Hudd is just not good enought to fit into the system we play. Dembele has a trick hip. Sandro is out for the season, not just a few weeks, anyone who thinks we dont need cover is nuts.

we have cover for sandro in parker and livermore and even hudd,when on his game there are not many better than Scottie Parker no need to panic buy if we are to spend it should be on a goal scorer,all of a sudden Sturridge and Ba look value for money!!!

Hang on I haven't mentioned either HR or QPR, so hold your bloody horses, all I said was M'Villa is a bargain, a 22 cap French international, at his age, with his pedigree, it's a no brainer. Correction it is a no brainer to anybody with a brain, that can see a player, perhaps it is more difficult for a land economy graduate, who ain't got a fecking clue, and his new "yes man". If Parker gets injured as he is prone to do, then we will be in the manure with the likes of Livermore and Huddlestone, goodbye 4th and CL, neither are even nearly good enough.

Frank, would Sissokho or Belhanda not be better buys? Sissokho is cheaper and Belhanda more. I rate Belhanda as the better of the three so that all makes sense. That said, if AVB doesn't want any of them, or they are looking elsewhere, then we shouldn't do the deal. COYS

Frank, Levy could not give a damn about football, CL or anything else, and anyone who falls under his spell that he does is well, under his spell. In the words of ABBA, Money Money Money

Lewis Holtby is starting tonight for Schalke against Hannover on ESPN in case anyone wants to check him out.

but geuernman, what if it's true?

Guernman one of the best posts on this site ever. AVB hired for min 3 years. Time to build squad not just short term fixes.

Frank, I know you do not like how ENIC run the club, and that's fair enough. But honestly, Levy does nt select the talent. It is the scots and the manager who rate te players they want and provide a list. Just like when VDv was plucked up by Levy, Harry was asked, do you still want him (ie he had been identified, but the previous price ws too high)? They work off a list. I'm sure Holtby was not at the top of that list, but he would have been somewhere on the list. Price made it make sense and you go from there. Then plans adjust. If AVB is to be believed, he wanted both Parker and Sandro in his club. It seems he has a plan. I'm sure he is evaluating every day and we'll know by the end of August what he wants his squad to look like. He had a mess to clean up. He has done well. We need players, BUT, I would suggest, anyone brought in must fit in with AVB's plan and, obviously, with the finances of Levy/ENIC/Lewis. COYS

i would sign mvilla next week

A bit left field, but I'd go for Yossi Benayoun if he's fit and available. We don't need any more holding midfielders, but a passer is definitely top priority, and Benayoun fits us perfectly, as we'll get him cheap.

So anyone seen Holtby play today ? Any thoughts on his performance ?

To$$er Bennyonthemoon, lordjohnny what are you smoking i must get some, Jenas woud be better and his out injured thank phuck

After dealing with Chelsea's players, doubt that AVB will even consider M'villa with the drama baggage

Peterbalb if I was a shareholder I would be delighted in the way ENIC run THFC, but I'm not, I am a fan, and as such I suppose my hopes, expectations, an aspirations are different. I hope that the ownership of the club are in the business of striving for success, trophies, enhancing the standing of the club on the pitch, not how much there is in the bank, an how much I might touch for in the event of the sale of the organisation. That's the difference. I find it mind blowingly frustrating that we go from window to window, year on year, with the same obvious problems that if solved, would in all probability turn us into genuine contenders, and there appears to be no determination, or if there is, an alarming lack of success in solving them. One can only draw the conclusion that either there is a lack of will, or the necessary competence, on the part of those involved, or their objectives and those of us fans, are not the same. I don't accept the pleas of poverty, if that were true, then only the richest clubs would ever do any business, which is clearly not true, and our Forbes rating suggests we are far from skint. Of course if our esteemed ownership had fulfilled their first promise on assuming control, we might have our 55,000 stadium in use by now, like our neighbours, and then we wouldn't be able to pretend we are skint, but that is a long term project as well 12yrs and counting, no bricks yet laid, and the latest but far from final estimated finish date is 2018, how much more match day revenue will Arsenal have accrued than us, in the years since their stadium was opened, and ours is finally built. Yes you are right I don't like the way that ENIC "run" Spurs, if that's what you want to call it.

Just watched the Schalke 04 Hannover game, 2 assists and a goal by Holtby. Not a defensive midfielder by any stretch but real vision and great creativity.

Frank, I am not a shareholder. I am a fan. On who grew up on dad's lap watching Spurs whenever they were on TV here (and all other football as my dad was a player back in the day). I have seen Spurs go from being a part of the conversation in the 70's to being wholly irrelevant by the year 2000. We are now part of the conversation again. I lived in France in 89-90, and even though Spurs were good, they were not part of the conversation. All of British Football was in the doldrums. But out the PL did come. Unfortunately, we missed that boat. We were mired in mediocrity and others, like Arsenal, benefitted while we waited. It has only been in the last 7 or so years that Spurs have gotten back in to the conversation. I am not so naive as to believe the process had begun just then. ENIC, taking control and then consolidating. Fixing the finances and then building off of that, is, IMO, a big part of where we are today. Could be better. Probably hundreds of things that have occurred that I outright disagreed with. But there have been thousands that I agreed with or saw the point to. I look at it on the whole. Financially we are way better off than when ENIC took over and there are stadium plans in the works (even if a snail could get there quicker). On the pitch, from mid table mediocrity to Europe every year and in the CL discussion for 4 of the past 7 years (5 of 8 if you include this season). We have, as an organization, taken a huge step forward. Much work still remains to be done. Harry was hired to make sure that the plan did not go irreparably backwards. Harry was fired for the exact same reason. We need to take the next step, which is even more monumental. We just need to make sure that we don't fall backwards because of it. I believe AVB and Levy are working together to make that next step. Both know investment and restraint, both in good measures, will be needed. I have faith. COYS

Spu4life; Second bottle of Chateau Lidl if yermusno. By the way, even with that happy juice I want to put my boot thru the TV. Who's told that Paddy McGuinness he's got what it takes? On the telly all the fecking time. He's a complete ****. He's as funny as a burning orphanage.

Frank, you do ******** moan like a woman ... well women moan less than you your so negative ... we have a budget we cannot spend out of our means if not we will go back to the Irvine scholar days you want that?? not our fault the rules prevented us from being in CL last season ... AVB is the right man and DL is the right Chairman if we spend what we do not have nowadays will end up like rangers did ... AVB will get this right and we have no right to be in the CL every season

lordjohnny, I bet you're one of those prawn sandwich eating "supporters" that Roy Keene was on about all those years ago, what with your fancy wine and all :)

That's right E17. After all, even though ENIC said in 2001 they'd improve capacity we can't complain that they've added 70 seats. I think the extra 70 were done on the drip with Wonga, so we wouldn't get like Rangers as you say. Perhaps in the next 20 years they will make it up to 100, but they'd better be careful, as we don't want another Irving Scholar situation, as Glenn might say.

Spoton In-spurs- and them crabsticks, y'know, the red and white things that smell of fish but don't contain any, are you with me?

Unibroue? Sounds like my ex-wife?

lordjohnny, the only fish I know about is the stuff that's battered and served with chips (and a kebab)

yann m'vila how much is he 8/9m you could buy aston villa for that

spu 4 life, do you mean 8 to 9m for Aston villa or 8/9m ie just under £900,000. Either way, I reckon you're over estimating it!

Tip of the hat to lordjohnny.

Eagle Livermore is *****

so for the cost of a new stadium we could pay our transfer fees for the next 30 years...yet our owners are sensible and prudent with finance? lol they are speculators willing to take the biggest financial gamble the club has ever had. Just because it's not deciding to pay a Karloskickaball an extra 20kpw over a 3yr contract but for a bowl of concrete doesn't make them prudent!

But is Yan the man? only if he fits into the plan stan!...I think we need a STRIKER before anything else

As it occured to any one that AVB and Levy are on the same wave length that being they don't want big name signings. Levy because of the financial climate and AVB because he believes in team ethic and that he can turn good players into quality team players and not interested in superstars.

I don't see the evidence that AVB is a 'yes man' I think he has his own ideas of how to make a club successful and it may mean a different approach to top clubs like Chelsea City Utd in that he doesn't want superstars and the fact that he knows we have the revenue. The way he speaks to the press should not be taken too seriously speculating this and that. He has to handle the press and keep his own counsel at the same time, press talk is a game to ALL managers they ALL handle it their own way.

Guernman very good post and accurate I feel. It is difficult for us this is why I don't think we are looking for superstars, we are looking for younger potentially good players that can learn from AVB system and we can afford to pay and gain a profit if they get moved on this is a long term plan and a solid one. HR did cover his bum and he spends other peoples cash easily but Levy put a stop to it when he saw non of HR players had any resale value and we were ending up with a ageing squad on loads of money. Football is a business and Levy has to think this way he has to get a balance between profit and success on the pitch not an easy task.

Has for replacements for sandro if we get in another player then we have Hudd, Livermore, Sandro and new player for one spot and Sandro to come back next season. It is ok saying loan Livermore out and sell Hudd. Teams and players have to agree with these loans and moves. I think Hudd is a decent player but Spurs has now passed him buy but until we sell him we cannot afford to bring another player in we will end up overloaded. M'Villa may be a good shout but as I said it depends on selling others. It isn't easy as well gambling letting a player go thinking you have a deal done for a replacement for it to fall through like last season or buying a player thinking a deal is going through to sell one only for it to fall through like it did last season with Hudd. It's a high risk game selling and buying in every respect.

I prefer to see a striker at the club. Not bothered about it being a superstar but a hard working scorer who will bring some energy to the team and who is hungry for goals, may be a young striker but one that has enough experience to push for a start. I don't think Ade will be with us next season and Defoe is getting older and will become a bit part player or move on if he is not happy with his role. I also feel we need a creative midfielder as Dembele is not good enough he needs competition. These two positions are important more than a DM but we have to wait and see.

peterballb tells us, "I assure you, Levy and Lewis are happy with the way things are going"... Happy with having the worst trophy per season percentage of any THFC owners in over half a century peter??? Are you stating that ENIC are just using our club to make vast profits when then sell up Peter? And your happy with this? COYS? Or COYE Peter?

pele(insulttothename)bro.........levy has been in control at a time when it has been the most difficult in history to win trophies because of the new financial (non level) status of the game with Man City and Chelsea buying trophies, everybody understands that. Its naive at best of you to compare their achievements in this way. There is a far more intelligent way to measure their success/failure thaN the method you use. I need to go out now but i can leave my 18 month old son at the keyboard to help you out if you like.

tophobunty, another ENIC Hotspur fan happy with our current owners having the worst trophy per season percentage of any THFC owner in over half a century, despite having 2 board members worth over 4 and half billion. These ENIC Hotpur fans quite incredibly get some warped pleasure that our vastly wealthy owners don't like to spend their money on the football club they own? There's only one thing worse than being a scrooge... And that's being a fan of a scrooge!

Is peelbro Frank in disguise? This is not a hatred forum Peelbro. U may be a passionate fan but u have distinct qualities one would find in Lance Armstong...

c'mon Levy just who's it going to be...Moutinho (we had the money and it was all but sewn up last window, wasn't it?) Damiao, Willian, Eriksen, Isco, Negredo, Belhanda et al? or will it just be dis-appointment, I hear he's on a free.....

shedboy2 spot as usual .
UR the man tophobunty ,with you all the way .+1

Seen Sandros knee ? no wonder he`s out for the season ,blimey .When you see & read this the signing of Yann M`Villa .May need clauses in his contract about kerbing his behaviour .Talent is nothing if you have the wrong attitude .Coming to England could be exactly what he needs to grow up & be all he can be .Clearly the potential is there ,just needs to get his house in order .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2264790/Yann-MVila-Tottenham-target.html

Lets be fair Big C some of the best players have displayed the attitude of the yob, or the *****. I don't think Roy Keane, or Wayne Rooney would have been the same players without it. There is a knife edge between natural aggression, an edgy attitude, and somebody who can be labelled a wrong un. As a DMFer you need to be more an animal than a gentleman, we have been short of this for years, before the arrival of Sandro, I am sure that M'Villa would be an asset, a bargain, and a rival, back-up, and rotation opportunity for Sandro, would give us the opportunity to farm out Livermore, and possibly sell on Hudddlestone, neither in fairness are good enough to take us on, and address Parker's advancing years, in the summer.

Of course the thing that would cock-up their predictions would be if we were to dive in and sign Negredo, and Erikson and M'Villa in what is left of the window.

Frank Roy Keane is one of my best ever players imo ,sheer class.
I was referring to M`villas bad reputation as being more a Adebayor ,Barton ,Ballotelli type character .Difference between having a winners mentality on the pitch ala Roy keane ,Gerrard ,Viera etc .Than being a talented ,but disrespectful & selfish tw*t . I hope M`villa comes as at his best he is class .But the price has come down for him due to being a loose cannon who is very difficult to manage & control .If Spurs can do that then bring him in .Whatever it takes we must get 4th or the cost of losing out on CL (again )will be even higher .
Speculate to accumulate . This squad as it stands will not keep/get 4th imo

Pelebro, last reported wealth tabels put Abramovich wealth at 4-5 times more than Lewis, ManCity's 8-10 times more than Lewis. When you look at these numbers you need to take account they are not be NET wealth numbers. There is a very strong probability that both Abramovich and Man City's would be substantially better off NET wise than Lewis when you consider the Industries they all come from and or earn out of now and going forward. So it's not at all level, your argument is flawed totally but I guess you will continue with it. Best wishes and happy easter.

i simply don't understand this attitude that we should want any owner to come in and just spend his money. If the club is not or will not eventually be running a financially viable and sustainable model I would be very concerned as a fan. what happens when the owner decides enough is enough. would you really be a QPR fan right now, with a wealthy (but not super rich) owner bankrolling a spending spree which leaves the club with a wage bill at about 200% of turnover, by far the largest on the PL from a club with easily the smallest ground capacity needing some considerable luck to stay in the league. no thanks. especially when the owner actively supports another club altogether. why the hell should I begrudge joe lewis for not wanting to simply throw his own money at the club but rather treat it as its own entity, a business which should run within its own means. this is the only way to ensure the long term survival of any football club, and i would rather be allowed to continue to support my club even if they remain just off the top, rather than see someone come in and gamble its future on a possible short term triumph like QPR, portsmouth, leeds etc. Who knows what the long term future will be for city and chelsea either, when the owners decide they have thrown away enough money.

Topho - the problem for me is I worry M'Villa could de-stabilise what appears to be becoming a very settled and together squad. What happens when Sandro (hopefully) returns in the summer? Is M'Villa the type to knuckle down and fight for his place, keeping his mouth shut and working hard for the good of the team? I'm not sure he is and that is a problem. It is also why Adebayor is already looking a little out of place because he is airing his dirty laundry in public. The great strength of Man Utd is they keep everything negative in-house. They deal with it and keep the spirit of the playing squad very together. That is what we are approaching at the moment and something we should look to protect and promote.

tophobunty, The Russian is actually worth approximately twice as much as Lewis and Michael Ashcroft (the other billionaire THFC share holder). If only Lewis and Ashcroft had brought the Spurs fans half the cups and titles the Russian has brought the CFC fans... tophobunty, seriously though, I really think you should speak to someone about this 4.5 billion 'tight as a ducks arse scrooge' disorder you appear to have caught off big Joe and the politician...

Pelebro what is the source (link please) for your financial numbers? Because i think I was being kind to you with my numbers, i think the gap is far greater. Do you know what % shares the two have ?

shedboy, the club have said that the financing of the stadium is independent of the team budget. Lewis is putting some of his own cash in to the stadium to make the financing work. Just like the training facility, it is all independent of the on field budget, though obviously all are part of the overall value. COYS

Tonyrich, agree with all you say apart from having Sandro covered. Not replacing him now is a big risk to top4 i think. 82 hOLTBY IS totally different to Sandro and is NOT a replacement for him.

top'...sorry, a midfielder is a midfielder to me.....I like all my midfielders...to be two footed and have a decent football brain (i.e....know when and what is required, during the 90 mins' plus..of play).

82spursdebut, well that is all well and good if financial planning, City of London, Haringey and Heritage approvals weren't needed. Did we not just resolve the last issues and finally get permission (which you kind of need) less than a year ago? Liverpool are having similar issues. Never as simple as anyone believes. Now, if Lewis and Levy had been willing to do things the way Haringey, London and Heritage wanted, it could no doubt have been agreed earlier. But they are building the stadium and the project for Spurs and their owners ENIC, not for Haringey, London or Heritage. Can't say as I disagree with them on that one. As it is, they have had to reduce their plans for a 60k seat stadium and reduce it to 56k stadium, as was eventually approved. Those 5-10k seats per gate represent a huge amount of lost potential income. Both sides made compromises and it took time to get it all done. COYS

remy that is

TonyRich, absolutely agree and I think that AVB and Levy will accept that unless one of their targets becomes available. We didn't want Remy. That's not what we are looking at. We are looking at Willian, we were looking at Fryers, we were looking at Moutinho. Holtby became available and they pounced. If they can't get him in until summer, it will be July when he comes. Their plan won't change. I do, however, believe that they are looking to add players. They just have to be guys that fit the plan. Remy did not. We were not in for him because we didn't want him. Levy is not going to make AVB take players he does not want (any more than he did to Harry - Suarez) and by the same token, AVB understands that there is a budget that must be adhered to. Sucks to be us. Then again we could have a share of the almost 100M net spend of QPR, Villa and Southampton. Lerner, by gambling, has potentially set Villa back a decade. QPR, if they go down, will survive so long as Fernandez doesn't mind losing his own money. Southampton will be destroyed and have sacked the manager that would have been able to get them back. Funny how Fernandez, when he bought QPR insisted that clubs be run with financial responsibility as any business should be run. I didn't know he meant Bank of Scotland. COYS

82 not all midfielders are the same, come on man, Sandro and Silva twins?

shed boy....but it's not a Financial risk..just to use your own personal money .........jack walker spent £40mill' of his own money on Blackburn................Even Alan Sugar paid for the upgrade of WHL. Thus...why not....messers' Joe lewis...and co'....spend for the people of north london and leave a legacy, rather than lose millions on the stock market....!?

82spursdebut, how can it not be seen as a financial risk to build a 450M building for a company worth 564M? Now, it's not the risk that a 60M loss would be to Fernandez who is worth 500M (at most) but it's a risk. It's what has Valencia in a huge mess and what has caused Liverpool and Spurs to make certain they are covered. COYS

Peterballb......Alan sugar...by his own words....says he has a bank balance..of plus £100mill'. I wouldn't mind betting that Mr.Joe lewis and a couple of others.....have not got at least twice as much in their own accounts. Thus....if they bought and paid for the stadium, out of their own pockets....then it's not a financial risk !!!!! They would also provide jobs plus more ..for the local people. Filling the stadium.....week in week out......depends on the prices set........but i been many times to spurs...and seen near 50k crowds. As for transport problems.....doesn't exist....WHL....is fed pretty well......few more train carriages, job done. 70k crowds have been known at WHL. The Legacy they would leave would....leave a better taste in the london peoples mouths.........The Blackburn people NEVER say a bad word about Jack Walker.

peterballb, still on your pathetic mission to discredit the man who saved Danny Boy from the drop, and then turned underachieving ENIC into the owners of a top 4 and Champions League club. I backed Ramos as much as I backed Harry, as I now support AVB, but unfortunately AVB is not being backed by the board, neither was Harry after he saved Levy's arse, neither was Jol, neither was Ramos, who had both his feet cut off, when that idiot Levy sold Berbatov, Defoe, and Keane virtually at the same time, in similar manner to how the idiot threw away VDV in the summer, which made AVB's task all the more difficult after the loss of Modric! No wonder the goals dried up and Ramos was not able to advance on his League Cup achievement, the one and only piece of silverware under Enic... Levy should have been sacked, not Jol! Levy should have been sacked, not Ramos! Levy should have been sacked not Redknapp! And Levy should be sacked before he welds his nasty little Enic dagger into the back of his 8th coach in only 13 seasons. Your trying to turn this whole ENIC 12 seasons of failure, onto one Harry Redknapp, shoulder the entire blame onto the most successful THFC Premiership and European coach in the entire Enic and Sugar era's, (statistical fact) When the real blame lies solely at the feet of Danny Boy loser Levy and his scrooge of sugar daddy boss. Keep dreaming that QPR go down this season Peter. Keep dreaming that Harry fails to achieve in west London, what he achieved on the North Side. Have you ever been to the West side of London Peter? Ever been to Loftus Road Mr THFC online internet expert???

FFS pelebro, the only clubs in western europe that are bankrolled by billionaires are Man City, Chelsea and PSG. Where's the Glazer's money? Multi billionaires and yet they didn't even buy the club with their own funds, just saddled it in debt. Some people need to get a grip, or grow up, or grow at least half a f***ing brain.

82spursdebut, just because Joe Lewis has Billions of dollars does not mean he has it in the bank account, nor does it mean he is willing to divest himself of other assets/interests to make that happen. It needs to be financed. Just because Fernandez is willing to throw away 10-20% of his own net wortg on a gamble, does not make it good business. Lewis has at all times shown that he is not willing to bankroll Spurs in the fashion Chelsea and City do. As for transport, security etc, Haringey, the Police, London Transit and the City would all beg to differ with what you state. The question came down to who should pay. Lewis/Levy did not believe we should have to accept a reduced stadium while having to shed out all the costs. They compromised. Spurs accepted a smaller venue and related projects while Haringey and London undertook part of the security/infrastructure costs. That's my understanding of the situation and is the only logical reason to lower your capacity 9k below what you wanted. COYS

topho, you've made some very good points in this thread, too much sense for some it would appear.

It's funny people blame Levy for Harry leaving.....err, the contract was on the table and he DIDN'T sign it, believing his media cock-suckers that the England job was already his. No loyalty, no respect, and yet god-like status is bestowed upon him. The reason Harry left was because of Harry, swallow it because that's the bottom line. Turns out that some of the fans he called idiots really are idiots, they still back him after he dissed the club they "claim" to support, yet they haven't ever typed a supportive word in their entire lives. Hmmm.

Peter......i'm happy with 50k stadium.....that seems fine. Wasn't me who said we had substantial season ticket waiting list. Yes, i'm guessing how much ..Joe Lewis and co' have in their own bank accounts.....but i gave you Mr Sugar as a example (he said what he said to the itv public). But if they are billionaires....and do not have at least a few hundred million in their own bank accounts.......then, they would be very daft !!....lol

Crissybwoy, my thank you and also now I know how to get cock-sucker by on here a double thank you...and i agree 200% with you ref Redknapp

Pelebro, 40M on strikers is more support than I recall any Spurs manager having. He then saw how Keane then Crouch were of limited use and determined that Defoe was an impact sub. For that same 40M he could have bought Suarez and Falcao who were both, along with Dzeko being labeled as the next wave of young strikers when Harry bought Defoe and Keane. Not supported by the chairman Chimbonda, Palacios, Kranjcar, Pienaar, Gallas, Friedel, VDV, Pletikosa, Saha, Nelsen, Kaboul, Walker etc.

No support at all. Honestly. Wake up. COYS

You'd rather Levy sold up to Hicks and Gillette, or Peter Ridsdale, or Sulaiman al-Fahim? The grass isn't always greener, trust.

As I said Peter, I support all THFC coaches. I did not enjoy the football under Jol As much as Ramos, or Harry, but a THFC coach he was, and he did not deserve to to be backed stabbed by loser Levy, nor did Ramos or Harry! As for how long I have supported Spurs, well I got my first season ticket back in the early seventies as a schoolboy... My father has watched the team since the 1950's. There was life before the dark days of Sugar and Enic you know... 1991 was the last FA Cup final, the season before Sugar... But the glory days will return, when this ENIC Corporate mob, have cashed in, moved on, never to return... Leaving behind those empty plots of Corporate wasteland... COYS

sorry meant to say the Club I love. not like..... Pele, we all want more mate, in a way we agree and I guess we are both passionate as are so many peops on here. But facts remain just that. I want more, lets hope we get it this window. However I dont see how Levy back stabbed Redknapp, Redknapp stabbed himself repeatedly in the front of his body under the full glare of the media TO THE EMBARRASSMENT OF A CLUB WHICH HAD supported him to the hilt including a MASSIVE salary knowing full well he was facing HUGE SCRUTINY AND POSSIBLE prison...I say that was a show of support over and above the norm in any walk of life....Harry should be grateful for what this great club gave him and how its chairman supported him.

Tophobounty, I am no HR apologist but he wasn't facing prison, he was innocent, ask the jury, if you believe in our justice he was innocent until proven guilty, as no one was able to do. A club with Joe Lewis as owner, and Michael Ashcroft as a leading shareholder, should know all about tax evasion, as past masters, and whether he was likely to get convicted or not.

Frank ha ha Redknapp innocent .You don`t get done for tax evasion without clear evidence . All you need is a solicitor who is the same one who gets rich people off their speeding convictions ,they speen & he gets them off ,crazy . But you think OJ was innocent too .Money talks in the world of law

Frank if he was found guilty he could have gone to prison Frank, that is the risk we took by choosing to stand by him as a club. He should be grateful for that support and people like you who like the guy should thank our club for that support. The tax evasion case was only part of his story last with along with the England job and our complete capitulation in the second half of the season.

I was supporting Spurs before you were a twinkle in your ol man's eye Tophobunty, an definitely before our Red Sea pedestrian friends Lewis and Levy came along. Whats more I will continue to have my say regaring the way they are "running" THFC. I was here when we were winning things, and I would bet that the Architect of it all Billy Nicholson is spinning in his grave watching these comedians, incidently Usmanov is a late comer at Arsenal. Taliking of tax evasion, if anyboy should know all about that it is messrs Lewis and Ashcroft.

@Pelebro, I am 30 years old, and as someone who is generally outgoing and pleasant, as well as respectful to everyone I meet, I can count the amount of times I have genuinely disliked someone on one hand, and never have I disliked someone on a fans forum..... until now!

I am amazed that, as a Spurs fan (apparently, as I am yet to truly believe you), you spout the most ridiculous tosh that I have ever had the misfortune to stumble across, online or in person.

You mentioned previously (and I quote) that Alan Sugar, whom you so eloquently refer to as 'scum', 'turned THFC into a Pony joke', yet you completely refuse to acknowledge that without Alan Sugar, there would be no THFC.

You constantly slate ENIC, due to your idiotic belief that they will not invest money, yet your accusations are not backed up by fact. Let me enlighten you a little with a few facts.....

1) Spurs have spent spent more money on transfers in, since the inception of the PL, than all but 4 clubs, Man Utd, Chelsea, Man City and Liverpool.

We are the most profitably run club, outside of the CL regulars, in the world. In case you don't know, we have qualified only once since the CL, in its current format, was introduced in 1992/93. Yet, still, we are the 11th richest club in the world.

In addition to our lack of money-spinning CL football, we also have a stadium that seats only 36,320 fans at any one time. This is, believe it or not, only the 10th largest stadium in the PL (not even in the UK, as both Celtic and Rangers have a larger ground, as do Championship clubs Sheff Wed and Leeds). This is also without looking throughout various other European leagues, to see who else boasts a larger capacity than Spurs.

Whilst I believe that ENIC could have been a little more adventurous over the last 2 or 3 seasons, at no time would I ever completely overlook the hugely positive impact that they have had on THFC since they took control.

Moving on from Spurs, and onto your seemingly favourite footballing personally, Harry Redknapp. Please keep in mind that it was him, and not THFC, that not only chose to turn down a lucrative contract extension, whilst going through a high-profile, possibly career ending court case for tax evasion, and to subsequently 'whore' himself for another job. It really annoys me when idiots, and I include you when I say idiots, assume that we, or more specifically Daniel Levy, treated Harry Redknapp unfairly.

Why are Arsenal a bigger brand than us, I can remember being accused by Arsenal supporters of only coming down to Highbury, as we used to do, if we couldn't afford away trips, to take the *****, they were miles behind us. We were doing doubles, winning European trophies etc.etc. They were crap, all I'm asking is why they are where they are, and we are where we are. Our owners ENIC have been around 12 years+, their first statement of intent was to increase match ay revenues by enlarging or replacing WHL, how long did it Arsenal to build their new stadium, ours from announcement of intent to completion is looking like 18-20 years, providing the finish date is not extended any further than the current 2018. I think mine is a fair question. I also mentioned the 8 coaches that Levy has hired and 7 fired, how do you defend that, we have spent almost as much money paying off coaches, as we have building the squad, if that's succeeding, I'm bloody glad we haven't "failed", or Christ's knows where we would be. What about the shortage of honours during the ENIC period, how do we explain that. We have won as many trophies as Birmingham City, and been in as many finals as Millwall and Portsmouth, great. Many are happy that the club is run like a branch of Goldman Sachs obsessed by the balance sheet, and potential sales value and eventual profit, whereas I, and some others, believe that as a FC, we should be equally or more interested in success on the pitch, winning football matches and honours and trophies, which is quite obviously not the case under the current ownership, as there have been several opportunities scorned to establish this club in the elite, the most glaring being when we finished in the last 8 of the CL, and we failed to build on it by improving the squad trying to make it a year on year objective, consequently we have failed to repeat that achievement. This ownership will not "take a punt", of course sometimes you are going to get it wrong, that's the nature of the beast. But better to fail having given it a proper go, than to die wondering.

Frank ok Arsenal it is. I will buy you a basic junior Arsenal membership and then at long last you can be what you have always wanted to be; an Arsenal Fan. I will also try to pick you up a book on how they built their new stadium so quickly, which you could read before you go to bed every night. Think of it as kind of a coming out for a wanna be cross dresser. Best Wishes.

Crissy, I don't quite get why people don't get it. I can understand it if it were late 70's. Spurs were up there just behind ManU and Liverpool. We were on TV around the world. Since the 80's we have been a shadow of that. English football got hammered because of hooliganism and the Italians were the game stoppers. Really the PL coincided with the resurgence of English football. The fact is that when the PL started we fell behind while Arsenal stepped forward. They got the glory while we laboured. It matters not who was to blame. Money became the deciding factor and if you weren't in the CL, you didn't get the cash. We weren't. Liverpool, ManU, Arsenal were (back in the days of 3 teams). That's where the money went and the disparity between clubs increased. Now we have started to turn the tide on that. Through youth and through wise transfers we have put together a very good squad. All that despite the fact that we don't have a 60k seat stadium, don't have regular CL, don't have the worldwide audience and don't have an owner who will float largesse. Despite all that we have finished 5th, 5th, 11th (won a cup), 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th and in that time have gone from a franchise value of 243M to 564M. We balance the books (plus or minus) and can compete with the best. We lost 3 great players but have added some quality and have added a manager who has proven he can manage a squad and has some tactical davy. We are on the right path. I take nothing for granted. We must push on, but to ignore where we were and not appreciate where we are and where we could go would be insane. IMO. COYS

Yann is not the same type of player Sandro is for a start. Those that are claiming he is haven't seen him play. He is a good player with a good engine and passing range. Frank is a troll. That or he is senile. We were never winning doubles (which would indicate plural) we won the double once and the league twice. Arsenal had won 6 titles before we won our first, we had only been promoted the season we won our first title. Imagine a situation where a promoted team wins the league? To compare what we ONCE did and make out as if we have a history of winning titles. Then say we DESERVE to be doing it and the fact we are not doing so is the fault of the owners is simply asinine.

It seems we have a few generational issues...some seem to think the world started with the prem, some remember further back to when the teams were more closely matched. Some will find it hard to believe that Arsenal were the worst team to watch, the stoke of their day lump it up top and have 4 terriers in midfield to win it back again....Arsen changed the way they played, they bought world class players (rioch bought bergkamp) that's how they built a media reputation for playing good football, started winning things and so could afford to gamble on the emirates...I'm not saying ENIC out (yet) but some on here are nailing their colours to the owners, not the club, I find that hard to understand.

molesy for PM. Well said fella, nice to know there are still a few member on here with a couple of brain cells remaining!!

Amen ro6ertj

COYS

Coopsie with you 100% mate

molesy , smashed it .No coming back from that ,genius post

Crissybwoy The one reason why Arseanl is bigger than Spurs is down to one man ARSENE WENGER .
What he has done & built for that club is nothing short of genius .CL around 15 years in a row spending less than us ?

until Spurs get the right manager they will always be found wanting ,i hope AVB is the man .Look at Wengers signings when he first came ,the platform & standard was set ,Henry ,Bergkamp ,Pires,Petit,Viera,Overmars etc etc .
AVB needs to do that ,set the standard & keep it there .Arsenal are not in the top 5 of EPL spenders ,Spurs are .
The manager is the key because imo everything else is in place ,the board is .Now need to raise the bar

Crissybwoy that`s true .Remember the goal Davis (i think ) scored at Liverpool ? . A big part was Irvin Scholar & Liverpool getting English clubs kicked out of Europe for 6 years .
In those 6 years English clubs were banned how many times would Spurs have qualified ,& played these games generating money ?
We were on the brink until Sugar came ,but yes he done well & thanks for that .
Who owned Amstrad that was making all this new Sky equipment in the early 90`s ? he himself done very well .Good business man ,but as a football man was miles away

Crissybwoy +1 just hope we do something this window or i too may have my doubts about levy .Always backed him & as i like what he tries to achieve ,but he is making me nervous now .10-11 days left to prove those right ,or those wrong .