Writer: OxfordSpur 
Date:Tuesday January 22 2013
Time: 10:52AM
For all the talk about players arriving, Just for once, I want to look at those hopefully departing.
Now I don't want to start by being critical of any player, but it seems obvious that none of Heurelho Gomes, David Bentley or Jermaine Jenas are in AVB's plans and when we consider they are probably costing in excess of half a million pounds in wages every month, the idea of moving them on, offers massive appeal, especially to Daniel Levy, I'm sure. Perhaps losing these players is key to funding an early arrival of Lewis Holtby, as that money is roughly what it would cost to bring him in early and pay his wages for the remainder of the season.
Recently we saw that Gomes was heading back to Brazil and hopes were raised that he would find himself a club and perhaps even be part of a deal to bring Leandro Damiao to White Hart Lane. Supposedly he has now returned and there remains interest from home and abroad, but as has always been the case, wages are the stumbling block for any move. In truth I don't see too many obvious Premiership clubs that he could step into as first choice, though perhaps Fulham or Southampton are potential destinations, however you feel that Tottenham might have to pay something to get him off their books, either in the short or long term to compensate him for a probable drop in wages.
David Bentley is out of contract in the summer, therefore he potentially represents a bargain for someone who is willing to take a chance of his ability being rekindled. Though David has had a terrible time at WHL, I believe there is a talented player in there, perhaps just waiting for the right move and I actually feel he is someone that would do well at several Premiership clubs, though have his days as winger ended? With so many clubs forfeiting wide me and looking at more creative central players, I wonder if David could actually do very well in a more central role for someone and may well relish the opportunity to prove himself now he is seemingly fit after a series of injuries. at 28 years old, you assume there is plenty of worth in signing him on a short term deal for someone.
The problem that Jermaine has is his constant struggles with injury. This continued on loan at Notts Forest and you can't really see too many clubs taking a serious punt on him in this window, but the catch twenty-two here is that without games, he can't prove his fitness, but who in their right minds would pay anything other than peanuts to sign a player that has struggled do badly with injuries over a long period. This is of course as much a problem for Spurs as it is the player. This makes me wonder if there is a logic in Spurs loaning him out to anyone that is willing to take him and paying all or at least the majority of his salary? Realistically he is miles down our pecking order of central midfielders and will remain a financial liability as long as he is under contract, but without being able to prove he can play every week, he could be in career limbo for the remainder of his contract, so surely giving him away in the short term may at least give him the opportunity to find fitness and hopefully another club.
As things stand, all three are in our twenty-five man squad, but with little or no chance of playing. I'm sure the frustration for Mr Levy is that we have over £30m worth of player, wasting away and with little or no chance to recoup anything but a fraction of what we paid, but is it better to simply cut our losses and the wage bill, though there is always the situation that players expect to retain their earnings for as long as possible and that makes it all the harder to off-load anyone, especially when it comes to relocating and uprooting families, though you hope that all three will see they need to look elsewhere to rejuvenate their careers and perhaps Spurs need to help things along, even if it costs money in the short term...
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Oh, Elvis isn't dead & Jimmy Saville is merely misunderstood. Bowl of Froot Loops anyone?
My View is simple, yes funds have been spent in the past, funds have been brought in from player sales and some of it reinvested into the team, whilst maintaining a profitable business. The problem is the way we hack and slash through players and managers. When a new manager comes in he will undoubtedly want to bring in his own players, regardless of the talent he has at his disposal, this MUST be discussed before the manager is appointed. The fact is, it seems that once the manager is on board, targets are missed (for some reason), cheaper / inferior alternatives are brought in, the expected results not achieved and the manager is dismissed. This has been the circle for the last 10 years. Whilst I understand the fact that we need to keep the balance in the black, and the need to sign the quality players, there seems to be a lack of harmony between the two. I don’t think the AVB / Levy partnership started off well at all, ADE was clearly not an AVB signing, neither was Dempsey, AVBS’s main targets (moutinho and Willian) were missed. This must have put a strain on a very early relationship
I think under AVB we will get it right, but only if he board hold up their end of the bargain. When he signed, and in the future when they discuss targets and strategies, surely the possible and probable difficulties are discussed. For example, AVB says he want Willian as he fits perfectly into the clubs ethos, Levy aggress and then offers Shaktar £10m!!? Do you see where im coming from? I know its not easy and I have made a lot of assumptions without any inside knowledge of the discussions held, but that’s my view on the situation, and one of the reasons we are stuck with the players named in the actual article subject. I do think however with Bentley it was a mixture of bad management and self destruction. Maybe that hurt Levy more than we know.
Personally I like all three players and wish them well. Bentleys 45 yarder against the scum, Gomes because everyone loves him, and JJ because he is actually quite good and underated i.e. set up all of Bales goals in Milan but got no credit. But like most others I like it even more than they are not in our team as they all have faults and none are a top 4 player.
One thing I don't get is Levys handling of Gomes, he hasn't played for 2 years, we have/had cover but still haven't sold him. I get the salary issues but surely he was a £5m player so selling for £2m would have been a bargin for someone. Instead we have kept him, kepy paying him and will get nothing come the summer???
Might I suggest a minor editing change to this sentence? Instead of "the problem that Jermaine has..." change it to "a problem that Jermaine has... " It's certainly not the only problem with JJ. Even when he's healthy I'd rather he weren't on the pitch for us.
As for Bentley & Jenas, who ******** cares!!
I also feel sorry for the stick Gallas is taking at the moment. We are in 4th because of his contributions this season. His leadership, positional sense and reading of the game has been part of the AB era. Quite frankly he would never have made the mistake Dawson did it that weekend. The problem is he might have made another type of error due to his body finally giving up on his tremendous football brain and leadership. So agree, 4th one to go in an ideal world.
That leaves decisions on the following by AVB: Falque, Khumalo, Rose, Dawkins and Obika. All over 21 and I'm unsure whether they have a future with us. I would say though that Harry just too many of these players just hang around for too long and AVB shouldn't make the same mistake. If they can't contribute to the 1st team setup either now or in the near future then we should make the tough call.
The final group AVB needs to look at is the players turning 21 this season that would imply they need registering next. January is a good time to make decisions on these players. These are Caulker (no brainer), Smith, (Grant) Hall, Parrett, Mason and Townsend. We can still use the loan system next season to test these guys out if we have no space.
Levy of course will be looking at the high earners so JJ, Bentley, Gomes and Gallas will become priority.
1 - The lad is a THFC supporter, though we hurt him BADLY when we released him when he was 14 years old, after he was at the club for 7 years & we gave hm just TWENTY MINUTES in a youth fixture, then told him to get lost. But being a Yiddowith something extra to prove could be very good for us....
2 - IF he has been identified by AVB, that'll do fo me. I remembr reading the uproar on here in the summer, when AVB was clueless because Levy wanted Sahin, but it was widely reported that AVB was i o way interested because didn't think Sahin would cut it in the PL. How did it go for Sahin again?
People at Celtic are speaking about Hooper & comparing him with Henrik Larsson, so the boy certainly has something about him. I bet if he was called Garinho Hooperinho, everybody would be craving for his signature!!
HuddersfieldYiddo - I feel you've summed up Hooper & THFC pretty well mate. Him AND Negredo = Good thinking.
I would suggest, if we are looking to spend 10M on Hooper, the money would be better spent on Mitroglou (3M Euros) as I understand Celtic are looking at him to be Hooper's replacement, and Son 8M GBP. Both are strikers. Both offer huge potential merchandising possibilities if they are successful and both will likely come on lower wages.
Negredo is a deal that will happen on the 31st. He will wait to see what the best offer on the table for him is at that time and that's what he'll take. If they spoke to both Arsenal and Spurs as was reported, I'm sure there is no issue with the transfer fee. It's all about the player and like VDV it will happen at the last.
People are saying Levy and ENIC aren't supporting AVB because we just won't buy Moutinho and Willian for the amounts bandied about (26 and 20M respectively). Since there are other clubs interested in both players, clubs who can afford much more than we can, and the players have not moved, suggests to me that whatever is being asked (wages and/or fee) is over-inflated. I don't think we need Moutinho. Holtby is coming and any of M'Vila 7M, Sissokho (free) or Belhanda (9M) would be better suited to our pace in the middle of the park. Not saying Moutinho cannot succeed, just fail to be convinced that he is worth so much more than all the others whose prices will double or more depending on their level of success. M'Vila was recently valued at 22M. Sissokho, 18 months ago was to be the next great box to box MF. Belhanda is a fabulous powerful goal scoring MF. I'd even sanction the 3.5M for Diame before I'd stump 26M for Moutinho. Willian, we need, but 20M seems steep. Could probably get Dzagoev and Son for the same amount. COYS
Best we can expect now is possibly a few bob for Gomes and all them off the wage bill by summer.
When you think of the recession and all the starving people in the world it makes you think how can all this money be wasted but then how has football become a mega business I suppose that's another thread or story.
Lets hope we don't make these mistakes again.