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Levy - Looking in the Bargain Basement

Andre Villas-Boas is rumoured to favour a move for Joao Moutinho but the Porto midfielder's £20m valuation could prove to be a stumbling block in any negotiations.

Daniel Levy reportedly sees Diame of West Ham as a cheaper alternative and may decide to bid £3.5m to meet the 25-year-old's release clause instead but The Scum are after him too. Schalke 04's director of sport Horst Heldt insists his club will not allow Lewis Holtby to leave for a pittance this winter as Tottenham continue to push for an immediate transfer of the Germany under-21 captain. The increase in price might have something to do with Schalke's plans to push to sign Michael Bastos from Lyon and the fact that Schalke know that Spurs need a replacement for Sandro now rather than later.

Holtby has already agreed a move to Spurs in the summer, when he becomes a free agent, but Spurs are keen on completing a transfer this month. The price for Holtby is now quoted as £2m Euros plus which, given the midfielder is out of contract in 4 months, seem's a very high rent to pay for 4 months. The Scum have also offered £10m for Montpellier midfielder Younes Belhanda, 22, and apparently Spurs also shown interest but have yet to bid. Rennes have confirmed that Yann M'Vila has gone to the Russian side Rubin Kazan for £9.6 m even though it is reported that he would have signed for either QPR, The Scum or us and is seen as yet another missed opportunity for Spurs.

Willian has brassed off his club Shakhtar Donetsk after failing to return from Brazil in time for the start of their winter training camp. Chelski and Spurs have made offers for Willian in the past and he remains a top target for AVB and Chelski came close last season to getting him when AVB was in charge, so any chance we have of beating Chelski to his signature are pretty remote. It is a safe bet then that Daniel Levy will not be spending anything over £5m this January window If we set our expectations to that fact we won't be disappointed.

So if we see any more speculation in the news with any more names linked to Spurs we can confidently disregard them if the price starts with anything over £5m+ because Levy is not about to Bankrupt the club this January over a Willian or a Moutinho or any other player whose name has a designer label inside his shirt.

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Date:Friday January 25 2013

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Your Comments

its always better to set your hopes lower than higher if you want to avoid disappointment. But we all continue to hope .Moutinho and Willian for me
Big Ron
I don't care about M'Vila, Moutinho or even Willian. WE NEED A STRIKER!
Sebthespur
am really not sure what we should be expecting. sure it is great to talk about bringing in the best players for huge money, but for all but the few, you have to wonder if regular big money deals will be a thing of the past, at least until the world economy improves. add FFP, the need to finance a new stadium and ever increasing demands from players wages and outside influences, it seems logical that Spurs and others are struggling and perhaps the clubs that thrive are those that can pick up the bargains, such as Diame, who of course was available as a free agent last summer
oxfordspur
Then dont spend, theres nobody worth having for less then 10 mil
spurs50yrs
too late...already disappointed at the poor effort from the club to try secure 4th this year! Another quality striker was always a must! Ba went for 7.5, and Remy for 8 which is not a bankrupcy gap from the 5 you mention so any of these could have been done!
jhbspur
There is talk about the famous Fergie time, - well we are now about to enter Levy Time !
AllanDK
There is talk about the famous Fergie time, - well we are now about to enter Levy Time !
AllanDK
If levy fails to spend and we dont get cl next season he should consider his position. Saving a few mil to lose many many more is not wise. The just published financial results show that clearly.
4everaspur
If there going to spend 3 mil on that player and 4.5 on that player we are going to have in 2 years time more dead wood, what is the point, if we cant get the top players that are better then we have DONT
spurs50yrs
It appears some Spurs fans would prefer us not to 'bankrupt' ourselves by spending £10m on a striker this window but would happily accept us missing out on £40m+ of revenue from being in the CL next season. I fail to understand the maths. ENIC won't speculate even £10m (which is less than peanuts in PL football in 2013) to accumulate a potential £40m+ windfall next season and beyond. What is the point in spending all the money that has been spent up until this point to build a platform, getting us to the brink of CL football and then stepping away from the edge at the last minute because you don't won't to spend what is a pittance by comparison in terms of modern PL football. It makes no sense to me at all. Anyone that is going to try to tell me that we can make CL football next season with our current strike force, don't waste your breath. I don't share your delusion.
SpuriousLife
Yeah itís all getting a bit desperate now. There are plenty of for and against arguments RE buying players in Jan, Budgets, Wages, Transfers feeís etc but it is getting a bit silly when like you say, we donít seem to want to go over £5m. I mean championship clubs spend that FFS. I have not been inspired by any of the players we have recently been ďlinked withĒ, but there are no actually quotes from the club etc saying we are in talks, just clippings in the daily mail. The media like to pile $hit on us for one reason or another, but after last Januarys Nelson & Saha debacle I donít put anything past Levy. I must admit even after 7 disappointing transfer window I am shocked that with a week to go in the window we havenít signed another striker yet. I thought it might be different under AVB, but its quite clear that its levy thatís the problem.
hudderspur
Put it this way, we just announced loses of £4.7m pound and thats without soeanding much over the last few years. We have to get Bently, Jenas, Hudd and Livermore off the wage bill. People are on crack if they think we can spend big. We havent got the money. If we went and spent £20m on a player, and didnt ger CL football, we'd be looking a big loses. We cant run our club like that. We need to be clever, ie get Holtby and Diame in for £5m and sell Hidd and Livermore for £10m. We have to look out for bargains because ths club doesnt make enough money. Its all good saying we need to buy to secure CL football but no signing guarantees that, so its far better for us to be clever and try get CL and then use money earned than gamble now. Its boring for us fans, but its a tightrope.
liamyid
what got us to the brink of success is a responsible approach to balancing the books. we have significantly increased the wage cap meaning that we are more likely to hang on to our important players. we will certainly spend 10 million or even much more on the right player but there are many boxes that need ticking. The notion that we could have got ba in because his transfer fee is under 10 million is completelt bogus, he knew teams like chelsea were in for him (they are hardly shy about tapping up players)
Guernman
Basically the whole Mouthino deal was nothing but a lie. Levy never intended on signing him, or Willian, he's just making noise to appease the fans and manager. It's all nonsense & I think he's finally been sussed out by most. Don't get me wrong, I think Levy has done a great job but he has some glaring shortcomings which are very cocerning indeed, and the fact that we only have 1 striker here and 2 in total, but of whom are in mine and many people's opinions not of the standard we need is nothing short of a p!$$ take.
Cape Town Spurs
.. so ba would never have come to us. remy we clearly didn't rate enough, fair enough if AVB didn't want him. The players have to want to come to us though and that becomes more likely nearer the end of the window when other options haven't transpired. I am worried about this transfer committee though and the notion that sherwood's input is as important if not more than AVB's, I am also worried that arsenal somehow get in villa
Guernman
We can't have it all ways though. Under Harry, the press just linked us with every player and were absolutely right to be when we sign players like Saha and Nelsen. As fans, we have to start thinking like a top 4 club and relax when a day or two goes past when we're not linked with anyone.

Also, we're only in the 2nd transfer window since stockpile Harry left. The cleanup operation is still underway and we're recovering from what could have been a £10m profit but ended up as a £4m loss. Hopefully we've learnt some lessons from the last few years of really bad squad management and will focus on quality over quantity moving forward.

I honestly don't know what will happen in the next week. It could be nothing, it could be a marquee signing or it could be a couple of cheaper signings that AVB has identified. Personally, I'd rather AVB sign Zeki Fryers and throw down the gauntlet to him to win the first team shirt. Harry would have brought in Nicky Shorey, played him twice and told us all what a great pro he is.
muttley
I would rather have Moutinho/Willian/Eriksen/Damaio(someone of that caliber) or nobody at all. There's no point building up a massive amount of squad players, especially after we've worked so hard to rid ourselves of dead weight and cut down our wage bill. Quality over quantity all day long, and I think that even if we don't sign anybody we will be all right for top 4.
laughter7
Another interesting Point....surely signing a quality striker would increase revenue in merchandise sales which even without CL would alleviate the financial concern? Also, i know this may not be the best approach but if wages of JJ, Gomes, and Bentley are too high and we cannot sell them, should we not consider release to at least reduce the wage bill.
jhbspur
AllanDK, Levy time doesn't start for another 6 days. He hasn't even started his warm up yet!
jonathan01
We should always be looking to upgrade, paying the right price for the right players. This window is a window of opportunity for our club to add depth to our squad and the striker we are short on. An injury to Defoe on Saturday and the n what? Play Bale Lennon Siggs and Dempsey out of position? If we don't sign the striker we need, I hope Levys decision not to back our our Champions League push for a 2nd January would be in my view be unforgivable, given best players will leave soon after.
strawboy
I dont believe were in to much trouble at the moment. We do need to still get some players off the wage bill. AVB has only been in charge half a season, he will have his targets and will know now who he fancys at the club. With Holtby arriving soon there is no need to spend 20M on Mountihno. Ba would of been a brilliant bit of buisness. We are only one great striker away from a top top club
spurspanther
the facts are obvious to anyone that thinks about it. we cant spend what we dont have and if we do just take a look at Aston Villa and several others in the past that have nearly bankrupted themselves chasing a dream
oxfordspur
No signing will guarantee CL qualification. Players often need time to settle especially if they have no PL experience, or they can pick up injuries just like anyone else. Look at RVP in some previous seasons. The Board will have planned their spending taking account of all the known factors and risk assessments and will not knee jerk unnecessarily. They financed the purchase of two of last seasons provan striking successes in Ade and Dempsey so cannot be accused of parsimony imo.
Love totty
Liam, losses of £4.7m is not bad at all mate, considering we are mean to be in an ďinvestment periodĒ and wanting to push to the next level. Your also forgetting the monies owed from Modric, VDV and a handful of other players that are not part of the year end figures (after June etc). With player in and out in the summer we were up by about £10m. Not saying we should go out and blow a shed load of money but if we wanted a £20m player we could afford it.
hudderspur
The Holtby deal and Sandro's injury are surely unrelated, as they're completely different players. Diame wouldn't be the worst shout, but we should definitely move Thudd or Jake on if we buy him. Alternatively, rely on Parker for any remotely big games and use Jake or Thudd when we think we can get away with it. Holtby will be a great addition but we can wait until the summer for him.
SamParadise
After half a season, we know what our players are capable of, we know what AVB can do and we know there is a rapport between AVB and the players. We all have an idea where reinforcements are needed. So, if we fail to secure Champions League football for next year, it will all be due to Daniel Levy's failings. Bargain Basement!!! This is not the weekend market for crying out loud. We are talking about Tottenham Hotspur Football Club and I want things to happen NOW!
Madaboutspurs
Keep calm, everyone! We will sign a striker (I hope Gary Hooper - ex-Spurs schoolboy and knows where the net is, which is important regardless of what league you're playing in). We might sign Holtby. But we don't REALLY need anyone apart from the striker - Livermore is a lot better player than he is often given credit for on these pages. I agree that we should try and shift Hudd, Bentley and Jenas - I'm sure that "Arry would be more than happy to have them on loan. Look beyond that as well - we've got Tommy Carroll and Andros Townsend ready to step in - Carroll to me looks the best prospect for years - beef him up a bit and you're looking at Luka Modric in disguise. And on the money front .... yes, we made a loss up to the end of June, BUT after that we sold Modric and VdV and brought in Vertonghen, Dembele and Dempsey. There's a bit of change left over - mark my words. Mr Levy loves a bargain and will leave it till the last minute. My top tip - Hooper to be in the starting 11 for the West Brom game ....!
ThrapstonYid
buying the likes of saha and nelson is not my idea of being clever, thats why we missed CL in the first place.If levy does spend £5m, i wonder which 3 players he will buy.
topspur53
I'm flabbergasted! Are some posters trying to tell me that our finances are in such a perilous state that if we spend £10m to £15m on a striker in this window we will go bust? If that is the case then ENIC should be shown the door today. If that isn't the case why are we willing to support such a blatant lack of ambition? Are we not a club good enough to be regular CL participants? If not what are we doing in and around 4th place regularly and on the cusp of making it? Stop the nonsense about comparing us to Villa and Leeds. Nobody is saying to go out and spend £150m on players this week. We're talking about £10m to £15m for a top striker for the love of God. If we can't afford that then we have no place in the PL let alone the CL.
SpuriousLife
I cant see any of Gomes, Gallas, Jenas, Bentley or Hudd/Livermore being here next season. Thats got to be the best part on 200k off of our wage bill. We dont need any more defenders or midfielders. A lightning fast striker and we will have one of the best squads in European football
spurspanther
@coopsieyid, I am waiting for your ITK from reliable sources....
Madaboutspurs
Levy's parsimony is in danger of others perceiving us to be just a "Lidl" Club.

Spuds-U-Like
well said spurious! various reports stating Sevilla and Valencia are cash strapped! Surely 15mill could get us Soldado or Negredo? FFS this has been an issue for 4 years now!
jhbspur
SpuriousLife, despite my believe that we will look to balance the books over a period of time, I do actually feel we will buy a player and spend the money if we can do a deal on someone that represents value and adds the right quality. Levy may be naturally cautious but he certainly isnt stupid. I firmly believe that we have a war-chest of cash available somewhere if a deal can be done. lets remember how close we were to bringing in Moutinho and if we consider that we were looking to do that in this financial year, not the last one where we lost 4.3m, you have to assume that the money is still there for someone
oxfordspur
spurspanther - exactly. If I've done my maths correct I think we own 27 senior pro's at this stage. This is the lowest for years. We know Jenas, Gallas and Bentley will be out of contract and can walk in the summer. That's us down to 24. Within that 24 we have Rose, Khumalo, Dawkins and Falque out on loan and I can realistically see us only keeping Rose. Remove Obika as well and we could be down to 20 players. We then have to find space for Caulker, Holtby and potentially Townsend or Fryers next season as they are all over 21 or over so we are coming back closer to the limit of 25. AVB will then be somewhere close to being able to operate a one out, one in policy and really go after quality players. As you say, we will then have a formidable squad that is operating within our natural financial boundaries and there is plenty of space for a striker.
muttley
spot on spurious, people need to stop making excuses for ENIC;s lack on ambition, get a striker now or risk missing out yet again.feel we have left it too feckin late as usual.Levy is probley in oz as we speak, talking to heskey.
topspur53
After comoli I firmly believe levy only wants the right player at the right price, Bentley is a prime example of being stung by reckless spending before! I am positive if Harry had his way then we would have any Carroll right now! Levy is a business man and will make the investment if the opportunity is right! What happens if we buy a £20 mil player and: A) they get injured B) they get homesick C) they don't adjust to the pl D) bale or dembele get injured E) Arsenal go on and Chelsea have exceptional ends to the season. How is spending going to guarantee champions league football? Well said Ox and Liamyid
spurticus87
so let me get this straight we're a well run club but spending 20m on one player would bankcrupt us....don't make me laugh...and we're skint because we've averaged over 29m operating profit for past 5 years but after we strip out the profitable bit we're 4m in the red...IF we are so skint I guess we'll be shelving plans to get us in 450m debt then won't we....
shedboy2
We still havent seen the best of our current squad. Our best CB and left back have been out along with Parker for the first half of the season, now with whats happened to Sandro. Cant wait to have them all playing in the same team
spurspanther
So obviously Swansea were showing a pathetic lack of ambition by signing Michu for a derisive £2m.
jod
shame levy has not noticed.its just the "same old, same old"look at the holtby deal. if he is as good as they say, how much profit does levy want to make when we sell him on?BUY A FECKIN STRIKER.
topspur53
Gylfi is on 15k pw more than bentley....that was reckless. If we can only look at players under 5m will the last person to leave WHL please turn off the lights, we may just as well all pack up and go home....
shedboy2
jod you quote the exception that proves the rule....
shedboy2
not to mention the sturridge and demba ba deals lod.
topspur53
So Jod what are you trying to say? We don't need a striker? Our current strikers are good enough to get us CL next season? We don't want to be in the CL next season? All that matters is surviving as a club even if that is in the Championship or below? You choose.
SpuriousLife
For all those who don't want to sign a 20m striker. Like the last 2 years, 3rd last year and we pi$$ed it down the drain. Now we are 4th and not far away from 3rd. Our destiny is in our hands once again, so spending 20m on a striker is a no brainer. Yes, he has to be the right player, that is not in question. This years CL revenues are up again and a team who gets to the quarter finals will have pocketed well over 30m. The risk is not spending the money, the risk is NOT spending the money. Make Inter and offer for Damaio that they cannot refuse. We will not lose any money on him even if we pay 35m. Also remember we won't pay 35m in one go, it will be over a few years!!!!
vicspur
we're closer to doing a valencia or Wolves (ie fecking up the football side for stadium) than we are to doing a leeds or Villa...
shedboy2
As a squad we are almost there, imagine what 3-4 years of champs league football would do to the club, bith in revenue and profile? How much would it take to bring in the 3 or 4 top quality players that we need to challenge for the title???
vicspur
talking of Leeds, we're playing them at the weekend how come I've not heard us linked to Luciano Becchio? that's how it normally works isn't it??..;)
shedboy2
Why would you spend £20m on a midfielder when we have a promising CAM arriving summer at the latest and are desperately in need of a striker? We're not going to spend £20m on a midfielder AND £20m on a striker are we? So is there anyone who would seriously take Moutinho over a striker?
Kes80
35m?? Would love to see him at WHL but thats alot of money for someone who is really unproven. 20m tops. Id rather spend the 20m on Lewandowski
spurspanther
trouble is Vic the time to capitalise on the CL was two years ago...we didn't, our well run club doesn't seem to be able to sieze an opportunity thrust right under it's nose because it wasn't part of the 'plan'.....but shopping for bargains most certainly is.
shedboy2
Zaha to united confirmed....Nani should be leaving then..
jhbspur
Kes80- is there anyone who would seriously take Moutinho over a striker? yes apparently that would be AVB and Levy in the summer...IF they were telling the truth....but they do seem a little economical with that don't they.
shedboy2
losses of £4.7m quoted and some rags put that down to us not being in the champions league, 4th this time around means we have a qualifying round, 3rd or better we go straight into the group stages next season, is that around 30+m? And higher place money from he prem. The club needs to continue it's run in the Europa Cup and beat Leeds and go all the way in the fa cup, both worth a lot of money to us, some players will get sold, now or in the summer they should clear the 4.7m. Pay 1.5m for Holtby around 2m euros? Get a player (striker) for 20m, that money is recovered by getting CL football next season, i have said it before Premier League finishing places will come down to goal difference and in the summer we will be saying the same thing ''if only we had signed a striker'' it's always IF ONLY. Levy and his last minute buys same same every time.
spu 4 life
Great Post Spurious, think you summed it up well. No body is asking for a mass influx of £50m players, just one decent bloody striker. I watch a fair bit of Spanish footy and even the lower table teams have decent attacking players. The problem with spurs seems to be we either go for the unrealistic ďBenzemasĒ or go for the cheap players nobody else wants. Thereís just no in-between. What surprises me (and has done over the last few years) is we seem to take risks on defenders, midfielders etc but wont with a striker. BTW, sorry to nag but OX, will you please stop talking about spurs like we are a team about to go bust. W are financially one of the strongest clubs in Europe. Like said above, if we cant afford to spend £10m - £15m on a striker we have needed for the last 5 years then itís a poor do. Lewis has that in his sock drawer.
hudderspur
We don't need a striker ''BALDRICK'' has a cunning plan!!! just watched Malaga 2 Barcelona 4 - lining up with Messi playing behind the striker, well he would have if they had one 4-5-1-0 amazing game of sheer class and passing football, the movement was outstanding and Malaga are a good side, they will over come Porto in the next CL match up, Pique scored in the week he became a father, in the box, chest control and left footed into the bottom corner, that was a strikers goal, let alone from very good centre half. Couple of incoming players at spurs like getting this Holtby deal sorted and a fast attacking player like Heung-Min Son or Son Heung-Min and away we go. Read more: http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7514373#ixzz2IyrE5QqA
spu 4 life
Someone see's sense http://thisisfutbol.com/2013/01/blogs/should-tottenham-be-pursuing-this-10m-goal-scoring-ace
spu 4 life
spend 35 million on leandro, (who i like) doesn't necessarily help us get anything this season, he has just finished playing a full season and will need time to adjust. And just because we get CL again next season, it doesn't become a game changer just because it improves our finances for the year, arsenal are much much wealthier than us, as are chelsea obviously. arsenal are reluctant to spend because they are paying off the stadium and haven't needed to to ensure CL. They certainly can spend though and once they have cleared the stadium debt they will be seriously wealthy. the difference in stadium revenues between us is more than we would get for winning the CL. The reality is that the best we can hope for is occasional CL participation and gradually increasing our worth and status until something really changes with one of the top teams, perhaps a sugar daddy gets bored... until then CL will not change the game for us, because united are the ultimate brand, city and chelsea have unlimited wealth and arsenal have used their decade of CL to move into a much bigger stadium and are way way ahead of us. So, yes, 30 million on anyone would just be madness.
Guernman
United just splashed £15m on a Prospect who they wont be getting till the summer. Thatís ambition. Thatís also the reason theyíve won the PL title 12 times.
hudderspur
Well said Hudderspur.
SpuriousLife
Maybe you're right about 2 years ago Shedboy2, but would Levy have really given HR any more money, when he probably already thought about getting shot of him?
longtimespur
longtimespur - the more time that passes the more obvious it becomes that Levy deals with transfers irrelevant of who the manager is. He actually thinks he's good at it and he certainly enjoys it. The results of his transfer ego trips are there for all to see.
SpuriousLife
Apparantly, £10mill'....is the asking price for Heung min Son. If that is the case........then if i was Mr.Levy, I'd pay out of my own pocket, for this chap !!...lol. Seriously good bargain and looks gettable.
82spursdebut
As I have pointed out before, - no panic buying Please!If we can get that elusive Locksmith and Top striker, then by all means go for it! However it is very unlikely due to the very nature of the January window. Otherwise keep the ammo for the summer. Please remember we have entered a longterm project with AVB at the helm, - therefore if the two above wanted players are not available, promote our youth strikers in case of injuries to Ade/Defoe/Demps. Again there is no quick fix on the road to the top of PL, - we simply cannot compete financially with the big clubs presently. I believe in 3-5 years, when the new Stadium is up and running, - we will be able to pay higher wages and consequently be able to bring in the top players. Whether some of you like it or not, - Patience is the key word ! COYS!
AllanDK
As I have pointed out before, - no panic buying Please!If we can get that elusive Locksmith and Top striker, then by all means go for it! However it is very unlikely due to the very nature of the January window. Otherwise keep the ammo for the summer. Please remember we have entered a longterm project with AVB at the helm, - therefore if the two above wanted players are not available, promote our youth strikers in case of injuries to Ade/Defoe/Demps. Again there is no quick fix on the road to the top of PL, - we simply cannot compete financially with the big clubs presently. I believe in 3-5 years, when the new Stadium is up and running, - we will be able to pay higher wages and consequently be able to bring in the top players. Whether some of you like it or not, - Patience is the key word ! COYS!
AllanDK
trouble is spuriouslife, with a £15m player there is wages, agents fees, etc. Suddenly the £10-£15m player is costing you a £30m package. Its very easy for us as fans to say "just spend another £20m and we can get champions leage which will give us back £40m" but business aren't run like that and thats what football is these days, a business. ENIC can leave but whoever took over would be exactly the same. I suspect until the likes of Bentley and Jenas can be removed from our collective nipple, there will be no big moves in the transfer market. Realistically this is where our club is at.
jimmy-yid
My mate Jimbo works for Lloyds banking group in the corporate deposits accounts dept and he told me that THFC have a deposit account containing £67 mil. The interesting thing is he said that 1.4 mil was withdrawn two days ago. Could this be for the Holtby deal..?
TornadoYid
As I've said before:we are a well run club compared to most of our rivals. Now, all of a sudden, we are on a "Low Budget"? I don't buy that for a second. Levy is not the guy who overspends and is left with peanuts at the end of the month. If there is a player out there that AVB and Levy want's, we have the founds. It's not going to happen, if it happens, before Levy time though.
dannylane
82spursdebut - I like what you write, but your usage of grammar is appalling lol.
hudderspur
As we repeatedly have experienced last seasons, Spurs need an appropriate DOF/chief scouter. Not any DOF/chief scouter but a football intelligent and well qualified person able to spot on a player those skills and traits that make the difference on having a winning team on the field and, together with the manager/coach, able to specify the real needs of the squad. He could contribute significantly to specify in time new AFFORDABLE players who would improve really and effectively the squad and to offload the deadwood. A proper and successful chairman/owner isn't only the one who does in person all business associated with his company but, also and primary, the one who is able to find appropriate and well qualified employees who in a specific business sector could do a better job than him.
Ioan X
With Holtby coming in summer, Ade returning in a few games so we still have a good squad at present. No point condemning Levy and Spurs to absolute failure if we donít get our new yearís present. I donít care how much people have a problem with our Ďrichí owners and their money, it shows complete lack in faith in our current squad and how far they can go. And thatís pretty *****ty coming from the so called faithful. We need to get behind them regardless of who else we may or may not bring in. Spurs are changing, and improving, so should the fans (including me). We know there is a difficulty period ahead of us and a busy fixture list so letís not be too hard on the current team, no matter how much we pick players/areas we want to upgrade. Because we always think we need to upgrade on what we have. Now, Summer next Jan and onwards. Sandro is a massive blow but Parker and Livermoor have their back. I will be really surprised if Levy and co wonít look to bring in a little more flair in midfield, but come the West Brom game Iím going to make a point taking the same attitude and support I have now for the team regardless. Summer is the time I feel we will make a move for a striker, a player for the long term who can add quality to the team. Donít kid your selves, money is there but chucking it in any old direction isnít the way we do things. Itís youth, loans or the right man for the right moneyÖ The stadium is going to cost a lot and is top of the list and we donít want to give that up. COYS.
SpursOne2
Are we a football club or not. If we don't buy A striker on the basis that it doesn't guarantee Champions League football, then we are clearly a business first and a football club second. If the chairman is happy to have just two average premier league strikers on the books (one of whom has clearly lost interest) then we are clearly a business first and a football club second. We will see what happens in the next week. I don't hold my breath.
jonathan01
I understand your point Jimmy-Yid. But, in real life, you get nothing for nothing. Of course the deal has to right in terms of purchase price and salary but it's the same in any buiness. You have to balance what you're willing to pay for someone with the improvement they can bring to your organisation. When you have a pressing need or find a real top talent the only thing that suffers if you don't take the opportunityto snap them up is the organisation itself. We can't pretend to be a top football club or even a good business if we don't back our words with appropriate deeds.
SpuriousLife
Im surprised people are saying as a squad we nearly there, we have no cover for left back unless we play a player out of position, no creative midfielders, no real cover out wide unless we again play players out of position, and not enough strikers, that was so evident last sunday when we have no1 on the bench to bring on to change the game. We need more than a striker which needs to be addressed, esp if we make CL this year. Spursious Life and hudderspur some great posts.
Ossie
Sebthespur. Fully agree. Our midfield and defense is ok. We just need a semi decent striker. For gods sake with the service they get I could point at several Strikers in Denmark who could put them away for us. Even bendtner. Sorry rant over
gRAMMSTEIN
We have a very reliable Right back who can play at left back, Rose has done very good on loan at Sunderland and Vertonghen is Belgiums first choice Left back. Thats enough cover for me
spurspanther
Lloris, Walker, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Esso, Sandro, Dembelle, Lennon, Holtby, Bale and Said striker. With Friedel, Caulker, Naughton, Gylfi, Dempsy, Defoe and Ade. thats a great first 11 and theres a couple of players on the bench who can make an impact.
spurspanther
Oh we have Fryers as well at left back...
spurspanther
I like your team spurspanther! If that said striker was world class then I think that is a squad that could challenge for the PL!
TornadoYid
We have money to spend... Where is it worth spending....

Heung min Son - 10 million
Negredo 10-12 million
Diame 3.5 million
Isco - 30 million release clause to be signed on new contract
Willian - 20-25 million
Belhunda - 12 million
Hooper - 8-10 million
Moutinho - 20-25 million
Damaio - 20-25 million
Eriksen - 20 million
Soldado - 10-12 million
Lewandowski - 20 million

Which would actually boost our starting X1 now?....

Im thinking get rid of BENTLEY, JENAS, GOMEZ, HUDD or LIVERMORE for anything close to 10million... and of course not forgetting that we would save inturn around 1,000,000 a month just on salaries for these 4 players...


then go all out for WILLIAN, ISCO or SON.... and play a 4-2-4 with a 4-man attacking option...

BALE, LENNON, HOLTBY and WILLIAN/ISCO/SON...
COYS....
Yidmarks
Oh yeah happy birthday David Ginola, you legend ha http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZE3139vN04
SpursOne2
Diame would be an option as a DM at 3.5 million...
Yidmarks
If we wait till the summer will we ever see Bale cross to a decent striker? We can't keep waiting, keep saying next season....what happened to- To Dare Is to Do?
shedboy2
That's 'use of grammar' hud ;0) Oh - and I personally would like Son - Imagine 36,000 people singing 'C'mon, my Son!'
DocHotspurs
Yidmarks- diame would be an option...a bad one....think Zokora but worse....
shedboy2
So many on here seem to be like spoilt kids at Christmas, not satisfied when santa only gives them one or two small presents when they wanted more and bigger. Take a look at the table people, we are 4th. Look at the goals for and against - we are doing OK. Yes weīd all like a top draw striker with an exotic name to score 20 plus a season. Maybe next week will see a new face, but what we already have is pretty decent and we have some great kids on the way in the next two seasons. Lets see what happens and stop refreshing the transfer page and getting annoyed that Spurs are quiet - its refreshing compared to HR being quoted every day and probably means AVB is busy preparing the team for the next game...
scoobyspur
shedboy2 - To Dare Is To Do, on the pitch. Which is where we need to Dare. Its all about the glory, right? Defoe, Ade and Dempsey will all be here to bang some goals in if we dont get one
SpursOne2
Looking in the Bargain Basement; Aim higher Levy try ''CASH IN THE ATTIC''
spu 4 life
coops have to dis-agree with you and liam...if we're that strapped for money then we haven't been run well and don't have the right owners...also sell Thud and livermore for Diame....like selling a Jag for fiesta....Diame will be getting it in spades within 6mths he really can be that poor....
shedboy2
Scoobyspur - do you think our current strike force is good enough to secure a top 4 position in the league this season?
SpuriousLife
If we wait till the summer will we ever see Bale cross to a decent striker? shedboy2 YEAH most likely RONALDO @ Madrid?
spu 4 life
Souleymane Coulibaly has joined Serie B side US Grosetto on loan until the end of the season. The young striker has previously been part of the youth team of Italian side AC Siena and was voted Ivory Coast's Young Player of the Year for 2011 after securing the golden boot at the Under-17 World Cup with nine goals - equalling the tournament record. The side his joined are bottom of the B league!!!!!
spu 4 life
At least get your facts right, £20 million is not a stumbling block to a Mountinho signing, the £30 million release clause they are now demanding is, big, big difference. Holtby is not a replacement for Sandro, he is a creative midfielder not a defensive one. M'Vila is not seen as a missed opportunity, only by those who can't even get their facts right. And then you finish off with stupidity. You don't just spend for the sake of it. You decide what you think they are worth, what you are willing to pay and try. If you don't succeed you move on. Fans like you need to grow up and get into the real world. We have the best Chairman we have had in donkeys years. He is the man who has taken us from a mid table side to a side whose fans now expect Champions League football.
Med1
Sad but true spu 4 life!
SpuriousLife
Bale will leave unless we sign a striker - Yeah hes just confirmed that on twitter!
SpursOne2
Scooby'.......we may be 4th but it's not wise to stand still. We have scored 12 goals in our last 8 prem' games. Our conversion of chances rate....is poor ! by top 4 standards. We are now at Business end of the season (harder end)...or have just started it. Our strikers.....are ageing and loseing their abilities...yet our manager doesn't promote young in form strikers. We are in one of only two transfer windows ..per year...............these are the reasons ......we speculate (talk)....on a talking site.
82spursdebut
spu4 agree....sad but true...
shedboy2
I didn't know that CL qualification spots were decided on the 31st of January Ė The rule being, Sign a striker we are in, donít and we are out. Wow levy must be missing a trick. And if Bale wants to go he will regardless who we sign or where we are in the league? I tell what is sad....
SpursOne2
SpursOne2- it's the club motto, not just to be applied to select parts depending on your view....Audere est Facere
shedboy2
got a feeling that Jovetic is on his way to LeArse....
Yidmarks
shedboy2 - You don't need to tell me the Spurs motto thanks. Your applying it to Levy spending money...good for you
SpursOne2
If Jovetic is going to Arsenal then bye bye 4th. Seriosuly that is not good news.
hudderspur
the motto should be sometimes...

Quit audeant facere

dont dare to do...
Yidmarks
SpursOne2-which is part of the club...so in other words I was correct first time and didn't need you to try and point out it was only on the pitch..which is incorrect.
shedboy2
If Arsenal are going to sign a player like Jovetic for somewhere around £15m to £20m and pay him £90k per week am I to assume that they will be going bust by the end of the season? Is their spending reckless?
SpuriousLife
shedboy2 - I actually said that it is on the pitch is where we should apply that. And that is NOT incorrect. YOU'RE the one applying it to Levy spending money not me
SpursOne2
SpursOne2- not looking for a fight....I agree it should be applied on the pitch as well as throughout the club- including Levy and his procuring the right players to implement it...it applies to the whole club.
shedboy2
I have been out the country for the last few months and unable to watch many games. Can someone give me an honest opinion on Dawson, ive heard hes played himself back in and around the team?
spurspanther
coopsieyid- the toon scouting network...isn't that partly our old scout? but anyway we can't hope to compete with Giants of the game like Newcastle they've had a huge stadium for years....we know our place.
shedboy2
shedby2 - Your basically saying if Levy doesn't get you a striker then he is going against the club motto. Good for you if you feel like that...but let me make this clear, we do not agree on this.
SpursOne2
spurspanther Dawson is the same as alway. Very honest, genuine, brave and always gives 100% for the team and the club when he plays. Unfortunately he is still far too slow for a top level PL team and is still addicted to the 'Hollywood' 60 yard cross field diagonal pass which (more often than not) leads to us losing possession. He is a great bloke and a great back up CB who will not let us down in an emergency but no more than that.
SpuriousLife
SpursOne2- my comprehension is quite good so I realise what we agree on and what don't...I also mean what I say not someone's paraphrased version for simplicity...
shedboy2
Shedboy2 - You can talk for your self ha. I still think your missing the point
SpursOne2
Cheers Spuriuslife
spurspanther
We do need a third striker and I would imagine that AVB and DL are discreetly working on it is as we speculate. I think Dempsey is a good option and I also think Ade will return in a couple of weeks and kick on, finally getting back to where he was last season. We also have Siggi waiting for his chance. With Holtby arriving no later than the Summer, we donīt need another attacking midfielder. Tom Carroll is ready for sub appearances and could be our next Bale. Get rid of the rest of the known deadwood and we will be in better shape, ready for the Summer transfer window. Another £15m striker now may help with getting CL, but is no way a guarantee. We have no divine right to get 4th, any more than the arse or bin dippers.
scoobyspur
that's a good one coops...
shedboy2
Diame is a very good footballer, better than mvila imho. I have seen both several times and i think its a good investment considering parker will be 33 this year and sandro is crooked. Watch him at the 2:15 mark embarassing kaboul parker and friedel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eD8_ktkuoDI
whitespur
a) Signing players is no guarantee of improvement. Goal machine Dzeko joined Man City in a January window for 27m and proceeded to get merely 2 goals in the remainder of that season. In the same window, goal machine Suarez joined Liverpool for 23m and proceeded to get only 4 goals. Summer is the best time to make signings like these, and we will do. b) We spent big already last summer. There is nothing wrong in getting in young promising players now, because that entails us to spend bigger later. We signed Modric for 16m, sell him for 30m, and then spend ALL of that 30m. That is an increase in spending. Bale will go for profit, and we will reinvest that. This is being well run.
TonyRich
Lol, Coops, ref Barton! On Dawson, I think he has improved a bit under AVB. He is a little slow, but does a solid job and is 100% Spurs and fights for the team. His long passing seems more measured and he now looks to control and play out from the back more than just punt or head the ball to the halfway line. Iīve noticed him chest the ball down (when he has time) and look for a shorter pass, on many occasions since he has got back in the team.
scoobyspur
Holtby will sign, they don't want him now and Levy will pay the 1 million to get him. We still need a wide player and a forward. I suspect Will.I.am will go to Chelski but sometimes it better to wait. Not the best time to buy as we know.
RAF Yid
This is so frustrating! How old id JD now? 30 odd, as much as he scores and loves the club surely it has got to be time to start thinking about his replacement? WTF are we waiting for? A clinical striker has been missing from our line-up for years, its almost laughable that we still haven't signed one. Who the hell does our scouting? Mr Magoo?! I pray that its us who have signed Jovetic and not the Woolwich mob......But Spurs signing a top notch Striker doesn't happen that often. Fix up Mr Levy.
LongTimeSpursFan64
SpuriousLife- Arsenal's spending is not reckless because they have higher revenue to support it. They raked in 110m euros more than we did last season. That means higher wages, and they can spend more than they recoup....yet they tend not to. Even Arsenal fans think that they do not spend enough, so everyone moans.
TonyRich
I think the release of our loss figures for last year is a timely announcement designed to stop greedy Teams and Agents getting carried away with their valuations. I hope we don't go for bargains over quality, but sometimes you have to cut your cloth accordingly. The main thing is that we MUST qualify for CL if we want to move forward even the smallest step. Consider, what it cost us to not be in the CL. Then that is the motivation to ensure we are back in it and so the motivation to get the players we need to consolidate our precarious position. I wonder if we would be looking over our shoulders if they'd bought Moutinho and Willian in the summer - I think we'd be chasing down Man City. Just a thought We're on the brink of establishing ourselves in the top 4, now's not the time to be hesitant.
SPUDMAN
Newcastle's scouting policy is down to our old scout, thank phuck we got shot of him then, they are really riding high!!!
spu 4 life
Levy's transfer policy is ''you can sleep in a 5 star hotel, but you can also get a good nights sleep in a tent in the garden''
spu 4 life
Jovetic to the scum, it's ok relax, Wenger said ''I did not see him''
spu 4 life
On 41pts at least we won't get relegated, everything else is a bonus
spu 4 life
that's four in a row, i feel like Gary Hooper scoring goals
spu 4 life
TonyRich - Le Arse got CL because they speculated and invested at the right time (15 years ago) because they realised the only way to be constantly successful AND financially stable (with a new, big capacity, full stadium) in modern football is to be in the CL each season. Once again as that boat sailed we were stood on the pier waving with a forlorn longing look in our eyes. Now we have a chance to jump on the boat and instead we're dithering on the dock wondering if we should give it a try!
SpuriousLife
sell Gomes, hudd & livermore asap. do something-anything ie loan out/sell if poss at any price the likes of Jenas & bentley. purchase Diame & a striker.
jesusthedevil
I WILL TAKE IT! I WILL TAKE THE RING TO MORDOR.
TopSpur13
To all those who go on about, 'what if we pay 25m and he is a flop, homesick, or does not score goals'. How many chances on goal did we have in the last 5 games?? A top class striker is the difference between a win and a draw. If you need proof look at Van Persie. Without his goals, utd would not be top. More important is the number of winning goals he has scored. That is what we are missing. If we are having 20 shots on goal and cannot score, something is not right.
vicspur
Spu 4 life - ''you can sleep in a 5 star hotel, but you can also get a good nights sleep in a tent in the garden." ....Are you saying Levy would stay in a premier inn and then claim he didn;t have a good nights sleep and claim his money back???
vicspur
whether by luck or design, arsenal were lucky with the timing of the PL and CL, they made the boat, we didn't, thats it, the ship has sailed. we cannot catch them up and we are not in a position where if we speculate we will overtake them. there are five teams with more financial resources then us, we cannot outspend them or risk our financial stability to try and overtake them.
Guernman
SpuriousLife - 10mil is not a lot in this age to secure CL with a return of 40mil but what if that 10mil doesn't help us get CL. I think if we spend 10mil we need to spend it on a player or players that we can resell if we don't qualify for CL otherwise we will be in trouble. So my bet it has to be a player that is young enough and good enough to attract potential buyers. However, even that is not guaranteed, the player may not want to be sold on after half a season especially if he has up rooted his family. Plus what 10mil + player will come to us on our wages when they will try and wait to see if one of the other clubs come calling. There is so much to spending money and getting the balance on and off the pitch. I can see Levy agreeing with AVB get us into CL then we can spend otherwise we have a small budget and that will increase with sales of existing players. So AVB may need to sell to add the the small budget Levy is prepared to give and not take risks. So the likes of Hudd, JJ, Bentley and Gomes are the first to sell but problems here who wants them and are they in any rush when they are on good salaries at the lane for doing nothing.

Guernman - spot on. Quality players will become available after their options are limited which will be last day of transfer window, these players stall to see what happens. On last day one of the big clubs may get a serious injury and go looking for a replacement and these quality players know that so they wait until the last minute.

mutley - agree we are still clearing up HR mess he brought us by losing us CL place. We had to increase wages to keep existing players like Bale around and we are not attractive enough for top players until we get CL. We had a lot of players that were unhappy for not being used under HR and players that were too old and injury prone and we saw a clear out immediately even though players like Corluka and Krancjar would have been more useful than some players we still have at the club, but their heart had gone from Spurs and they were not going to wait another season and see if the new manager would involve them which is fair enough they sat around long enough under HR when they could have been more involved but HR was clueless on managing a squad of players. We still have some clearing out to do before we have funds especially from getting them of the wage list to put towards securing any quality player if available.

coopsie - thanks for that info lets see if any of it comes true.

I think we should tell JJ and Bentley they are not in the squad and see if that will give them a kick at looking for a club.
thfan
Nice posts TonyRich
SpursOne2
Itís on the pitch we need to do the talking, we have a talented squad and we did invest in the summer. We dropped form this time last year (ish) and slumped into the last few games with poor results. This year we have new manager, staff, facilities and we don't want a repeat (even though its AVB's first season). Bringing in a new player doesn't solve this, results do...keeping up the hard work, the support etc. I hate to say it but Arsenal achieved 3rd last season by doing the talking on the pitch. I don't remember them signing one player last Jan that ensured their qualification? They just kept winning, as a team. We canít sweep this one under the carpet and think one player can ensure this. The lads need to knuckle down, work as a team and get the results. We have a good squad. Yes itís a Bonus if levy can pull a player out of the bag that everyone rates, but the same applies if he does. Onwards and upwards and keep the faith. COYS.
SpursOne2
Suppose the question may be do we need a number 1, 2, or 3 striker? If AVB believes Ade can get back to banging them in (lets remember he has had bad luck with injury this season and not played too much) and be our no1 striker, will defoe be number 2? Then surely looking at likes of Jovetic and Negredo is not gonna happen and the likes of Hooper or Son are far more likely. However, if they believe they need a new number 1, then surely Negredo and Jovetic are in consideration (assuming arsenhole have not just secured his signature). An if this is the case would we accept Son or Hooper as bench back-up?
jhbspur
Some players being out at the beginning of the season, who are back/returning now will be like new players as well. I think AVB has used the squad well for his first half term (personally think a little more rotating in areas would have helped more but not going into that too much) and we do have some depth. This i hope will make things easier for us over the next few months.
SpursOne2
BTW, anyone know the ITK that claimed he would eat his hat if Snjeider was not a Spurs player by 1 Feb? I'd like to see the lad phucker up on video?!
jhbspur
SpuriousLife - I thought what I was saying was pretty clear. The quality of a player isn't measured by how much you pay for him nor is the quality of a squad determined by how much you spend. This is the kind of simplistic thinking that would inevitably cost the club if it was shared by those running it. I would love our scouts to come up with a few buys like Michu, then we could really compete. But of course that kind of player doesn't cost enough for some of our fans so he can't be any good.
jod
To be honest i'd be delighted if we signed Carlton bloody Cole - so desperate we are imo for a striker. Ok maybe not Carlton Cole. But if Defoe pulls his hamstring against Leeds - Then what? Dembele upfront? We are seriously low in the striking department.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Ossie - we certainly should not be worrying too much about Left back cover. We have BAE, Naughton, VERTS, Fryers & not to mention Rose on loan, as well as Bale. Left back is fine as is defence. Midfield (even with Sandro out) is fine. Only real areas for me as the same as in the Summer - AVB wanted Willian (Lennon back up / striker) and Moutinho (creativity). Biggest concern would be if Dembele or Lennon got long term injuries. As we all feel, Striker is priority, but whilst I want a Falcao, I am not like some who feel anything under £10 million is crap. There are so many good examples & our SCOUTING network should be finding them BEFORE they become £20 million + players (aka Bale, Modric etc).
Windlespur
arsenal did not need to buy last january, we gave it to them on a plate. we DO need another striker or we might just repeat the last two seasons mistake.
topspur53
Good post jod.
Windlespur
topspur53 - Ha so Arsenals January tranfer policy was...don't need to buy because Spurs are going to hand it to us on a plate? :-) cheers fella
SpursOne2
Yeah totally agree jod. I'm suprised we havent seen any unknown arrivals from Portugal or Brazil given AVBs knowledge of Portugal & its connections with Brazil. Maybe something is in the pipeline.
HuddersfieldYiddo
If you look at our fixture list for January all those games you would fancy us to get a result with the squad we have. Why then waste a months wages and give a club three weeks to ramp up a players value when you can press them into a corner in the last couple of days of the window. Every winter transfer window we get the same pattern on here. Early optimism added to by a youth signing or pre-contract then the three week lull where everyone goes off the rails complaining that Levy is a tightwad and coach doesn't have a say, we have millions to spend, ENIC out and then the transfer window swings into action - for all clubs! If I could change the trasnfer window set up it would be to reduce the duration of the january window by half, it would reduce the amount of unsettled players and would focus clubs on getting their business done. Diame for 3.5 million is as good if not better business then Ba for 9million as stated previously Parkers age and Sandros absence make our need this window far greater which normally means players values increase! I also note reports the Norwich have switched attention to Van Wolfswinkel and for less then 10 million!
Slurms McKenzie
exactly SO2 think they might spend this window though. defoe gets injured we will be up s**t creek. will levy take that chance? we will see soon enough.
topspur53
Are football fans so hypocritical? When Modric went on strike and wouldn't turn up to travel with the team and wouldn't train, most on hear would have driven him to madrid in a slurry tanker themselves. The hatred for his behaviour was over whelming. But when Willian does the same to his club we rub our hands with glee and want to welcome him with open arms? WTF is up with us?
Slurms McKenzie
tophobunty- yep Graham Carr, chatty mans dad....and he can hardly be blamed for Toon playing badly....nope they have a bang avg manager on an 8year deal....brilliant!
shedboy2
TR over simplistic on Jan purchases sometimes they bed in straight away, sometimes they take time to settle...same as summer buys as most of ours don't have a pre-season and miss the first 4 weeks.
shedboy2
Slurms was with you on the repeating pattern of the Jan window up until you saud it swings into action...I wouldn't call Saha and Nelson much action last year....let's hope history doesn't repeat itself.
shedboy2
yep, a 2 week January window and the summer window closing the day the season starts would be sensible....
shedboy2
topspur53 - We could say the same for Demeble, Bale maybe? Donít want to tempt fate but i hear you. We do have some depth but i think this year we need to work harder on the results than last year...regardless who we bring in. we have 3 up top remember. Slurms - Wolfswinkle isn't a bad shout, i think we have been linked before? Heís young, can play up top or support attacking role. Never thought he would go for that money? Wonder if its pure spec. COYS.
SpursOne2
LOL. Shedboy prehaps I should have said "swings" into action, although it was a more general statement about how the window works then spurs own performance! Who was the last real gem we signed in a January transfer deadline day deal?
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms -apart from the Arry era-defoe,keane and palacios....we did get Woodgate...Chivers, Gilzean....but contracts and times are a changing making January a far better time to do business than historically...again why wait till summer? that just means 31st of August to us....look at the headline for this article and that everyone knows what 'Levy time' is shows how we now do our business...
shedboy2
Yes Ghulamvile for less then 10million aswell.
Slurms McKenzie
Phuck it I'm moving to ghulamville, it seems a far happier and optimist place to live, this whole "real world" isn't to my liking at all!!
Slurms McKenzie
are you guys taking the mick or is this real? Cant see owt on tinterweb?
hudderspur
Ghulahmvile and slurms - are you on the wind up? Because if so that's not funny :'(
rahn DMC
so2 we sing from the same sheet, but i dont think we have depth on the striker front. if defoe or ade get injured i dont think playing someone out of position will work, had enough of harry doing that, and what happened then? one young striker would not go amiss , son or wolfswinkle would do. cant imagine what song the fans would dream up with the latter thou.lol
topspur53
Just searched it on the web and it sounds like bollox cooked up by Sky Italia (who are apparently as reliable as the daily fail)... hope I'm wrong though.
rahn DMC
I think it's a wind up ... :'(
rahn DMC
Jod. What you say is very clear and you're right. My point is simply this - in this era of modern day PL football £10m is not a lot to pay for a GOOD player. Now, to me, you and most mortals it is a massive investment and therefore an equally massive risk. However in the rarified atmosphere of PL teams challenging for CL status it is not and cannot be viewed as an insurmountable amount. If it is we will never be able to move on. I'm not advocating spending vast amounts on every Tom, Dick or Harry but we will at some point need to risk spending somewhere in the region of £10m on a player if we are serious about trying to compete for the top positions in the PL and to get into the CL. If we don't then we must accept we will never be anything more than a mid-table team that may win a domestic cup once every 25 years or so. That may be acceptable for some but it certainly won't fill a 55,000 seater stadium every week. You can't have it both ways.
SpuriousLife
4 years now and still no decent striker signed.To get to the next level, we need a top man to get on the end of Bale's and Lennon's crosses.What a waste of two talented wingers!!!
wentworth
Well we signed Ade? He was meant to fix our issues.
ledgespur
The Coutinho rumour is FAKE, it was a tweet by a Liverpool fan to see how fast it traveeled and got picked up, it's a P#ss take and a good one at that.
ledgespur
Parker cant play all the remaining league, europa and FA cup games. The truth is we wont win alot with Hudd or livermore starting(remember how we started the season?). We need a defensive midfielder, a young hungry striker, and holtby ........all together less than 15m!
whitespur
wentworth, agreed but then 40M was spent on strikes. Just not ones who were anything more than immediate patchwork. That Keane was no longer player a year in, Crouch gone 2 years after he was signed and Defoe had become an impact sub. This was all under Harry. Wanted by Harry and discarded by Harry. At the time that that money was being spent Suarez, Dzeko and Falcao could all have been had for 40-45M (all three). COYS
peterballb
I was taking the micky, after reading hundreds of posts over the last number of years claiming we have signed players. I just guessed at the 10million because of the articles on the Spurs media watch. I don't believe a player has been signed until Ox offically or Coopsie unoffically announces it!
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms, don't do that to me... you had my heart going for a minute, Coutinho would be a quality purchase.... Oh well :/
rahn DMC
Sorry Rahn ;-), yea he'd be like a smaller, lighter modric!
Slurms McKenzie
I think its between the Saints and the Bin dippers for this little chap anyway!
Slurms McKenzie
The ENIC HOTSPUR fans are out in force this evening, telling us about all the great bargain basement stars Danny boy has bought on THFC Ebay over the years. Yes your ENIC HOTSPUR fans are truly proud of Danny's bargain basement achievements! How sad the renowned penny pinching scrooge Prince of world football, has the worst trophy per season percentage of any THFC in over half a century, and has failed to reach any major Cup final other than the Mickey Mouse Cup, and has only made the CL on one occasion in 13 seasons. To bad our Danny Boy has not been able to find us that bargain basement stadium to house those 35,000 potential Spurs customers, on his THFC season ticket waiting list in... Think of the hundreds of millions of pounds that Danny and Uncle Joe have lost in revenue by not putting an extra 35,000 bums on sits over 13 seasons... Ouch! Nice try with the Olympic Stadium Danny boy! Back to the real world miser...
pelebro
Okay pelebro, but have you not been entertained in these barren trophyless years? Have you not seen footall played the way it should be? Are we not a joy to behold when in full flow? Is it not exhilarating teetering on the edge of greatness while your rivals stutter and stumble?
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms McKenzie, "teetering on the edge of greatness", teetering on the edge of a new stadium, teetering on the edge of buying the great striker this window, and last window, teetering on the edge of having a great team, teetering on the edge of actually winning something, teetering on the edge of making the CL, teetering enic hotspur... As for our rivals that are stuttering and stumbling that you speak of? Do you mean Chelsea with the Champions League and FA Cup in the cabinet, or Arsenal who are still in the CL. If you call that stutter and stumble what would you call 13 seasons of enic???
pelebro
pelebro, your glass is more than half empty. Drink the rest now. Don't worry about tomorrow. Fact is, from 2007 Spurs have gone from being worth 246M to being worth 564M at last Forbes. Now, I don't know many big bankers, but I can presume that a club that wants to spend 450M on a stadium that is worth almost twice what the club is worth does not make much sense. However, a club that is worth more than the project they are undertaking seems a better venture. Oh, and you really should thank ENIC for allowing us to "teeter" on the edge of success because when they took us over, we certainly weren't there. In fact, in 2007, we were part of the best of the rest with Everton and Villa. Have you looked where they have finished since then? In the League we have overtaken one of the "big 4". That's a major accomplishment. Yes, the Sheikh throwing all of his money around has made it more difficult, but we still got CL, have finished 5th, 5th, 11th (with a cup), 8th, 4th, 5th, 4th and currently sit fourth. Threeof the teams ahead of us (ok, all the teams ahead of us) can outspend any other team in the PL twice over without missing a beat, and you are annoyed we"teeter" at the edge of all this. I prefer to look at it as could be better, but still pretty good. Could be worse. We could be Villa. Or Pompey. Or West Ham. Or Leeds. Or Birmingham. Or QPR. Or Southampton. When there is no plan in your "big spending", you are in big trouble. Levy plans for the worst and hopes for the best. I applaud him for that. We will get our stadium and we will compete all along. COYS
peterballb
With so many countries, institutions, households mortgaged beyond their means, and the turmoil that this is creating, it shocks me that people just don't understand that you must have a plan in place and the plan must be fully costed. Then again, it really should not shock anyone as the world economy has been there before. COYS
peterballb
Becchio, Becchio, Becchio, an absolutely nailed on Levy transfer. It would cement his reputation, firmly established following the astute signings of Gregor Rasiak, Frazer Campbell (loan), and Louis Saha. Why interfere with a winning formula, success breeds success, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Incidently of course Levy has a plan, and it is fully costed, it amounts to spend sweet FA and ensure that you don't become too successful, it costs too much, and while you are at it, make sure the books show a loss, that will keep the natives, and HMRC quiet.
Frank
Peterbalb, will we be in the new stadium in time for the club's 150th anniversary, is that the cunning plan.
Frank
No Frank, we will be in the stadium as soon as is possible without taking a hit on the playing side of things. Arsenal, to their credit, had a great scouting and development system at the time they were looking at things and used player sales to cover costs. Levy has said he would not do that. Arsenal were also forced, bytheir financers, to reduce the payroll. Again, this is something Levy has said he will not do. If we are living within our means, financing of the stadium should be independant. Fact is, in 2000, we were nowhere near as valuable as Arsenal, and did not have the assets to sell on. Expecting a financial institution to bankroll a 100M (generous) valued club in a 400M project is ridiculous. Their status in the PL and in Europe at the time also allowed them to get 100M out of Emirates. We just don't have that cache Frank and that was all in place before ENIC had anything to do with Spurs. We missed the boat late 90's early 2000's. That's where it all went sideways. COYS
peterballb
Levy knows we lost 4 1/2 million because we missed out on champions league. He also (I would have thought) knows why we missed out, (various opinions are posted on here) I also hope that financial wizard that people say he is, he must see that if we carry on in that vein for another four or five years we might as well buy a proven striker of the RVP ilk right now, he would soon repay his wages with helping us gain Champions League and winning it. We have come close before without the knowledge of continental teams and the discipline our current manager has instilled in the team as a whole, so who knows how soon we could be winning the Champions League if had that striker playing for us by the end of this window. Come on Mr. Levy, pull your finger out, and sort it please. From one Spurs supporter to another.
chrishove123
tophobunty writes, "would it not be better to support a club you actually like and have something good to say about. Surely life would be better for you?..." Classic ENIC HOTSPUR fan answer! If your not happy with the current owners of our club who have have the worse trophy per season percentage of any THFC owners in over half a century, despite having 2 board members worth a combined 4.5 billion, F Off and support someone else! Sorry to inform you tophobunty, I ain't going nowhere mate! I will be supporting Spurs long after our triple billionaire owner and his Spoilt little rich kid chairman, who has been playing real life fantasy football with our club for 13 years, have cashed in and moved onto their next club. I am a one football club man, unlike Joe Lewis the THFC owner who has owned shares in 6 other football clubs... Glasgow Rangers, SK Slavia Prague, AEK Athens F.C., Vicenza Calcio and FC Basel. Joe Lewis is a football club mercenary, and his Ebay style chairman is just along for the Fantasy Football fun ride...
pelebro
peterballb tells Frank, "we will be in the stadium as soon as is possible without taking a hit on the playing side of things." But again peter fails to give us a date for the big move? Not even an estimated year... When will the move happen Peter? Which year do you anticipate flying into London from Canada for the opening ceremony of the ENIC DOME? Which year Pete??? Which year will ENIC provide seats for those 35,000 Spurs fans waiting on Daniel Levy's Fantasy Football season ticket waiting list? Which year Pete???
pelebro
SpuriousLife - If you know where to get a proven quality striker for £10m then you should contact AVB immediately. He and every other manager in the premier league would love to know where this mythical player is. Of course its just possible he doesn't exist.
jod
pelebro, I didn't realise that Levy had been picking the team and setting the formations throughout his entire tenure with us. Makes me wonder why we've ever employed a manager as in your book Levy does everything at the club himself, and so it's entirely his fault that we've won very little in the last decade, and nothing to do with squad mismanagement and poor fortune (i.e disallowed goals at Wembley, Lasagne etc), all of which he's apparently entirely responsible for. To make it worse Levy clogged up the whole country last week by making it snow bucket-loads, he set of the Volcano in Iceland, sunk the Titanic, and I know for a fact is responsible for the genocide of the American-Indian population a few hundred years ago.
Crissybwoy
And before the accusations get thrown in my direction, I'm not and NEVER have been a Spurs fan. I spend hundreds of pounds a year on tickets just to get a glimpse of Levy at The Lane. Just like with Harry, I follow him from club-to-club with my blind support, knowing in my heart of hearts he's clearly the best at everything in the world. I've just been fortunate that in the last decade Levy has settled down at a club at last and I can offer him my full and undivided support on a regular basis, knowing full well that the improvement in our results since he arrived at the club are irrelevant, I don't care about on-pitch matters and the vast improvement we've seen, I only care about Levy. Levy til I die!
Crissybwoy
 

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