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The Boy from Brazil!

So for the umpteenth window we are again going all out for Leandro Damiao or so the ITKs and media are speculating. It seems that he was a teenage prospect when he was first mooted, by the time we get him, perhaps he will be a seasoned pro, or even a has-been/never-been. Some suggest that a deal has been agreed, whilst others claim it simply won't happen. I am going to play safe and sit firmly on the fence, however, if I wanted to play the percentages, I would say that we will again be frustrated with the Brazilian, and as for anyone else…

With talk that Jermain Defoe could be out for a month and Adebayor away at the African Cup of Nations, we really have problems in attack, and though Clint Dempsey is a decent short term option, he isn't a natural No9 in my opinion and is much better and more effective attacking from deeper positions, but perhaps if we are unable to source a short or long term solution, I suppose it is a straight choice between him, Jon Obika or reverting back to the summers pre season and going with Gareth Bale and if all else fails, would that be a serious consideration in preference to other compromises?

Perhaps there is a mini bargain in Sevilla striker Alvaro Negredo at somewhere between £12 and 15m, but in reality I have no idea whether he is a serious consideration or the media making up their usual guesswork.The same applies to Hamburg's young South Korean prospect Son Heung-min. His age and ability to sell shirts in Asia might well appeal to Mr Levy, however I have no idea how good he is until my son checks him out on FIFA 13, when he gets home from school. Perhaps we can buy Gary Hooper from Celtic and see the Darren Bent/Steven Pienaar/Jermaine Jenas derision factor make him an instant flop in the eyes of 50% of enlightened fans, in a how to win over fans purchase from the club.

Who, if anyone we get, might well depend on our ability to win the agent war, or pay over the odds in our potential desperation to have a striker. Surely if we lose Defoe until the end of next month, you assume the situation will force the club to find a deal from somewhere. If that is a usual last minute deadline day deal, then so be it. just as long as he is a brilliant player and one that we all approve of...




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Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday January 29 2013

Time: 12:14PM

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Enjoyed the article Ox, nice admission on your scouting network!
Slurms McKenzie
We have also been linked with EDER..of Sporting Braga, this morning.
82spursdebut
Just got a very reliable ITK post about Leandro Damiao, apparently (and this guy is never wrong) there are going to be lots of media reports about Spurs attempting to sign this lad and most won't be based on fact. ITK source: O-f--dSp-r!
Slurms McKenzie
All aboard!!!!!!!!!
Durbanspur
Christ Above, we're always an absolute circus at this time in every transfer window. We'll be linked with every god damn player and you know who we'll end up with.. no one!! Wait no, maybe if we're lucky Saha might return!
TopSpur13
Exactly why spending 25m on Damaio is a very calculated risk. In fact I would say it is not a risk at all.
vicspur
ADE wont be back for another few games at least, Defoe is rumored to be out for a bit (or at least he certainley isnt 100%fit), i dont really see anotehr option here. We were going to have to buy in the summer regardless, the only question is who is / was our true strike target. If its was Damaio then this would be the perfect window (jan) to bring him in anyway. If not are we going to have to go for our 2nd or 3rd option to bring him in early. Like i said above, i dont really think theres an option. We cant go the rest of the season with what we have, i think that much is clear, but do we go forthe cheaper option like Gary Hooper or that "son" bloke, or do we risk a chunk on perhaps our first chioce target? In all fairness its not an easy decision. What if a combio of Holtby and Demspey was the answer but we buy a £10m flop on a 4 year deal. Theres always a risk in whatever you do.
hudderspur
Spending 25m on any player is a risk.
TopSpur13
Sorry about the quality of posts, as we all know this site has a tendancy to miss out the odd letter lol
hudderspur
Deja vu after deja vu after deja vu! This will never happen. Either he doesn't want to come to us or we don't want to pay the fee being asked or the wages he wants. Whatever the reason this appears to be the usual rumour that gets rolled out 2 days before the end of every transfer window to us Spurs fans and, as usual, I expect nothing to happen with him. Much more worrying for me is that I've heard that Danny Graham has submitted a transfer request at Swansea today. Now that sounds like the sort of deal Levy is much more likely to do before Thursday. God help us all!
SpuriousLife
Defoe's injury may be a blessing in forcing Levy's hand. Will we see Obika start on Wednesday?
Kes80
I am facing a very similar dilemma at the moment. I am torn between buying a new TV. Either I pay around £500 for a nice 42 LG (Negredo) and then wait and in a couple of years buy the latest tech (4K). Or I stump up £1200 for a brand spanking new Sony Bravia 47inch LED which has been universally haild as the best LED TV on the market (Damaio). If I buy the LG and save some dosh, I know I will still have to spend more on something better at a later date. If I buy the Sony, I am buying the best that is available and will be sorted for the next 5 years at least.
vicspur
Levy will talk this deal to death, and then nothing will happen! The other issue with getting Leandro is that when Ade and Defoe are back we will have 3 first team strikers and a manager who next season will move towards playing 1 up top. Levy and AVB will want to avoid that at all costs.
Tactically Challenge
vicspur, buy the Sony mate, its quality. You won't regret it, trust me!
Tactically Challenge
it still absolutely F-king ridiculous that we're in this situation NOW....should have had 3 strikers in august and now we've reached 'worst case scenario' the powers that be are scrambling around like complete buffoons.....(sigh)!
g. roberts testes
Vic -I very much doubt it but Damiao could be a flop, Willian could be a flop, Negredo could be a flop...like Topspur says £25m on a player is a risk, but its not like you sign a player on the back of 2 or 3 good games. These guys will have been scouted for months at least. Its easy to say when its not my money but i think we have to go big. Any idea if that Willian bloke can play up top? I only ask as he is practically begging to join us? Damiao on the other hand doesnt seem to want to leave. Anyone think that we will sign a complete "out of the blue" player...Pato or someone like that? I dont, but interested to know what the majority think?
hudderspur
Oh, and who voted for Parker MOTM against Leeds? He was ponderous and slow in possession, we are going to miss Sandro so much. Come back soon Beast!!!
Tactically Challenge
vicspur - There is ALWAYS a risk when you buy a player. When that player has never played in the premier league and his family has never lived in England the risk goes up. if there was a risk free way of managing a football club someone would have worked it out by now.
jod
vicspur- I've got a Sony, the LG is over priced....go for a Samsung..:0)
shedboy2
Tomorrow we´ll play Norwich away and if AVB plays Siggurdson behind Dempsey with Obika on the bench then there´ll be no doubt that the 4th positioned PL club does not feature a recognised striker on their ranks. That really gets nearly to either a joke or a cliff edge. Honestly, I can´t believe a club which has jus posted a 4,3million loss will spend 20 or 25 million on a player (Damião) whose current club has no reason to sell him now. Negredo ?? Well, this one could be on the neighbourhood of 12 to 15 million. Too high a tag price as well. Granted Sevilla has to sell due to their financial disarray, but selling one of their best assets for a cheap s not exacty a recipe for financial redemption. Son Heung for 10 million ?? A young, never-tested on PL player for such a price ?? Again, I cannot see it happening. And, that leaves us with Hooper from Celtic if the price falls in the region of less than 7 million. Can he be the right lad ?? I don´t know. No one does, neither he can but after bringing all puzzle pieces to the table and looking how they fit, surprises apart, maybe he will be Spurs No9 forward...
AlexSpur
will not happen in 2years let alone 2days.no striker, no CL no transfer policy same old story.wake me up friday.
topspur53
we have to buy a striker, don't we? We really can't wait till the 31st of August to go through all this again...can we? ffs we are a top PL club we have to have players don't we?
shedboy2
The return of Darren Bent?
Starsky
If he joins and starts tearing up the prem....him and sandro next year....perhaps we can become popular in Brazil!!
shedboy2
Normally about 5pm !!!
muttley
would love to get Damiao but cant see it happening as i dont think there is enough time the way levy does his business,i have read before that he is partly owned by someone else so that probably makes things very difficult.But i dont think Negredo will be a bad buy i have watched him alot of times and his record shows he is quite incosistent but h has been at sevilla a while now so a move to the PL might be what he needs,to finish 4th we are gonna need someone to get us some goals otherwise i think we will miss out again
gsmith84
Seems a bit premature to me. The transfer window doesn't even open until Thursday :-)
muttley
Starsky, doubtful but he does fit the AVB profile of being a pure goal scorer!
Tactically Challenge
Those aren't jigsaw pieces Alexspur, they're price tags and Hooper has the lowest one
Cape Town Spurs
only if they're free shedboy, only of they're free
Cape Town Spurs
We need a striker, every man & his dog can see that a mile off, but I can't help but think the fees involved with this lad are extremely inflated. I keep hearing & reading estimated transfer fees upward of £20m & then watch him play & cant help but feel as though I am missing something. He isnt worth £20m; I'd still be uncomfortable if we were to pay £15m, if I'm honest. Maybe one day he'll be worth that, but there is also a huge risk he could flop big time & return to Brazil for a much lower fee. That being said, if the scoutings been done & everyone at the club is in agreement that he is what we need then they will have to bite the bullet if they really want him. Inter don't seem to fussed either way, they're content if he stays & content if he goes, much the same as the player himself, it seems.
Mex_yiddo
Bet Levy's waiting on the Togo result tonight before making any move.

Spuds-U-Like
Levy doesn't think we know Damiaio has 3rd party ownership so he'll try to pull the old Muthino, we tried but crikey, there was a curved ball, maybe next year. bollox
Cape Town Spurs
Rather than waste time on who we would like we need to be realistic about who we are likely to get (assuming we get any striker at all). In order of likelihood it is Danny Graham (cheap), Hooper (Norwich about to offer £7m so too high for Levy), Negredo (if available for less than £8m so forget it), Damiao (this is just the club's way of trying to look like we're serious about signing a world class striker but unfortunately it never happens). Prepare for Graham or perhaps Hooper if Norwich drop out but that's as good as it's likely to get. In all likelihood we'll not buy anyone so it'll be Ade (once he retuns from Africa) and Defoe (once he recovers from his injury) for the rest of the season. Yipee!!
SpuriousLife
Spuds, he's probably trying to throw the game!
Cape Town Spurs
shedboy2, I am from Brazil and I´m positive the only way to be popular here is to be on Champions League every season. That´s how United, Arsenal and Chelsea shirts became availablle on every, every sports stores in the last 10 years. Two years ago, Manchester City kits were pretty much a rarity (like Spurs´), now I see them more than I´d like to see in my whole life.
AlexSpur
Sorry, that's Togo's game TOMORROW night!

Hmm, fits in perfectly with Levy's usual transfer negotiation schedule.

Spuds-U-Like
According to the below, Defoe is back tomorrow

www.physioroom.com/news/english_premier_league/epl_injury_table.php
yiddyboy
Would love us to get Son Heung-min, very good talent as I had said here since past 3 windows. Increase shirt sales in Asia too :)
what_sux
If the site is factual than we still don't have a recognized striker available :-)
yiddyboy
The closer we get to 11pm Thursday the better the 3rd and 4th options [Hooper included] will look. Just out of sheer desperation!!!
yearendsinone
Incredibly i don't think we will sign anyone!
HuddersfieldYiddo
Sadly you're probably right Hudders.
SpuriousLife
we have a very tough fixture list compared to liverpool and arsenal. we really need to win the next two games and keep the pressure on. the defoe injury is unbelievable, lets just hope togo lose tomorrow because even if we sign someone they can hardly be expected to just slot right in straight away so we could do with adebayor who played as the lone striker might gel perfectly with holtby. Ade has not yet played the lone role he was so effective in with VDV, we have to see how he plays when he is the main man again. i really believe that being behind defoe has much more to do with his form this season then finally getting a contract. adebayor can be world class, this is a player we would have dreamed of a few years ago, it is just possible that the striker solution is right there. the key to success is defoe resuming his place on the bench imo
Guernman
Wow what an eclectic bunch of strikers us fans have distilled down as our transfer targets, leandro, Negredo, Hooper and Graham, if these are our actual targets then we have to question AVBs tactical knowledge as each one offers something totally different from the other and makes me wonder what system would we be looking to play if these four are interchangeable!!!!!
Slurms McKenzie
Guernman I think you mean to say that our striker solution is plying his trade out in South Africa as opposed to being right here!
Slurms McKenzie
My thoughts exactly Guernman,watched both Togo games he's played in and he didn't look as bad as he has for us.He even got on the score sheet in last game..Trying to accomodate both him and Defoe could well be the problem..Also looking forward to him playing with Holtby.
SA's No1 Fan
Levy @ AVB , yes you can spend £20m now on a striker but we will sell Bale in the summer to fund, regardless of CL qualification . Just not happening.
SpurON
So we have exactly one (sort of) striker at the moment, this lad, Obika. Other than that, unless we bring in someone, we have only one option: Playing a formation that has not striker, e.g., 4-6-0. Yes, I know, you've heard this from me before and some of you are sick almost unto death of seeing me write this yet again. But, the fact remains, we are without a striker, any striker, except perhaps the lad, Obika. So (a) we play Obika, (b) we pretend that Dempsey or Siggurdson are strikers, or (c) we acknowledge that we have no striker and we play a formation that reflects that reality. Come of you strikerless Spurs, COYSS. Take advantage of having brought in L.H. from the German under 21s and play some sort of 4-6-0. cq (crying quietly, the inverse of lol).
Total knobhead
TK are you sponsered by 4-6-0 or something??? :-)
micyid
We have also been linked with EDER..of Sporting Braga, today. He, too, looks good potential.
82spursdebut
Micyid if you look up Total Knobhead's e-mail address its d.levy@gmail.com I think our transfer busniess over the last 18 months makes a lot more sense now! ;-)
Slurms McKenzie
Haven't Sunderland just made Louis Saha available on a free? Could go in for him again? *said with tongue well and truly in cheek*
Klinsmann_18
I'm looking forward to the game tomorrow and also DEADLINE DAY on thursday night!!! The wife will be banished to the bedroom to watch corrie n all that *****e I usually have to put up with! I'll be sitting there in my living in my pin stripe suit with Jim White on full blast, mobile in one hand to get constant updates from other deadline day fanatics, twitter on the laptop in one window and vital spurs in the other, not forgetting a giant pack of cheddar flavoured sensations with Doritos tangy cheese dip! DEADLINE DAY! In Levy I believe!!! #Damiao #Negredo #Willian #COYS!
TornadoYid
I would love Leandro...I have lost all faith that we'll actually try and sign anyone over a £7m...but say we do get him...we have to give him a chance to settle in.....he's not as quick as some would have you believe but he is a finisher....look at Giroud at Arse, they were starting to question him but he's now settling in....not good for us!
shedboy2
Credit to TK he did call the 4-6-0 back in July, and as I recall we then used it in a friendly in the States and we were pants does no-one else remember Bale being played as a pretend striker - and he was brutal!
Slurms McKenzie
more chance of #Domino'sPizza #Bent #Will.i.am
Starsky
Yes Tornado its the simple things in life!
Slurms McKenzie
Life in the fast lane Tornado
Cape Town Spurs
Lets not write off Obika just yet? Only for a fantastic last gasp tackle he could have been an instant spurs hero against leeds - the only time we actually looked to play the ball over the top for him to chase. His lack of understanding is down to lack of first team appearances.
Slurms McKenzie
glad to see the links to top international players again, if we pay 8-10m for Hooper its a gamble as he is coming from SPL (not saying he wont continue to score goals but there is a chance it will be too big a step up), same with Son young player coming from a different league, although great signing from a commercial point of view his stats seem to suggest he isnt a goal machine. Also with the two above is they are likely to be squad players and what we need is someone to come in and really challenge Ade and Defoe. Damiao would be my preference, agreed he is also a risk and a bigger one if the reported 20m rumours are true but the difference is he an international striker, a brazilian international striker at that, and could have us set for years, another point with damiao is we must have a ******** library full of reports and dossiers on this **** by now, levy probably knows the exact shade of his bellend. If we arent willing to spend that kind of money then surely the 10m or so would be better off being spent on Negredo/Hunterlaar experienced internationals who will be expected to make a difference straight away as that is what we need, an instant impact
Boom Boom Boom!
I think we should go £30 mill. on Leandro and pip the 'big' clubs.If he's the hottest striker in Brazil his value will go strataspheric after the next world cup.We are getting £50 mill. for the inconsistent Bale in the summer anyway,so you will be quids in Daniel ,my boy!
Greavesaboveall
If we don't get a striker we could play something like this in a 4-1-4-1 Bale Dempsey Dembele. Holtby. Lennon Parker Just a thought until JD or Ade can play. I can't see Damiao coming unfortunately.
Jantheman
Sorry didn't come out how I wanted it to.
Jantheman

I have heard he is actually avaliable in summer, with Inter linked;


"He is the plan B to Edin Dzeko. Leandro Damiao is an idea that Inter have for the summer transfer window." The player’s agent has come out and confirmed the many inquiries that he has received over time especially from Europe. “I have not received any offer so far. But I can say that recently many inquiries have arrived and they keep coming. He is a highly sought after player especially from Europe. However, right now, he is very happy at Internacional and finding himself doing very well under the guidance of Dunga.”


And i read this report that AVB was planning for summer aswell;


"Rather than accept a lower-cost alternative – Levy looked at Loic Remy before the France international signed for Queens Park Rangers – it is understood that Villas-Boas has proposed that spending be delayed until the close season when Damiao is expected to be attainable".

SpursOne2
Bale up top, Dempsey left, Dembele and Holtby behind Bale, Lennon left. ******** hell that was long winded!
Jantheman
Oh I ******** give up!
Jantheman
Surely with the guaranteed revenue increase next season from the sky tv money now is the time to invest in this relatively young brazilian. We have tried a brazilian goalkeeper (flop), a brazilian defender (flop) and a brazilian midfielder (major sucess) so now is the time to be bold and sign a brazilian striker. Go get him Daniel.
Block39
Jantheman lets save you alot of time and effort and just disagree with you immediately!
Slurms McKenzie
I think 25M on Leandro would be utterly ridiculous. He is young. Very talented to be sure. I have probably watched him 50 or 60 times. At the Olympics, very dynamic. Last year with Internacionale, brilliant. This year, not so much. For that same money we could buy Diame, Son, Hooper, Castaignos. Yes, Son and Castaignos are kids, but they are both playing, scoring and succeeding in Europe. Hooper, yes, it's in Scotland, but his record, as a kid in L1 and in the Championship was quite good. He did finish 3rd in scoring in his first Championship season and then went to Scotland where he again is perennially a top scorer. Diame, aside from health issues (which, given that it has been years really should dot dissuade from paying 3.5M) is a very good player. Not great, but he is strong, fast and causes all sorts of issues for defenders with his dribbling. Leandro would be great, but he is hardly going to step in and settle overnight. We need the striker and goal scoring now, not in three months. Get in Hooper, Castaignos, Son and Diame. The risk is minimal. The end effect is there are striker positions to play for. I would expect Son, Castaignos and Hooper's eyes to light up. Son can also play AMF so it fills another need. Diame steels the MF a bit. They can all score. COYS
peterballb
Whether Defoe is back 2moz is irrelevant IMO. We needed another striker last summer even after the ade deal was confirmed. Dempsey is doing his best to help out but he’s not a striker. Even if Defoe is back he’s hardly setting the world alight at the moment. No goal in 10 games says its just another typical season where he started off well, then fizzled out. Whether ade is back this week, Defoe is back 2moz or Dempsey borrows Ronaldo’s boots, we need another striker in. Although I think AVB is on the same wavelength as some of us…either buy a striker who we want and will be at the club scoring for the next 4-5 years or don’t bother at all. If we sign Hooper or Graham them IMO we will just have another one to get rid off in 2 seasons time. Graham, hooper etc…are they any better than what we have??
hudderspur
Spuds Togo don't play until tomorrow
Ossie
We don't need to pip anyone to get Leandro. He is Internacionale developed and as per our partnership with them, we have a right to match (assuming the player wants to come to us). We don't need to throw money at the Leandro situation. At one point there were rumours that Barca, RM, Inter, AC, Chelsea and United were all scouting him. Guess what, the player is unlikely to come to Spurs and turn down the wages that would be on offer from any of those clubs. COYS
peterballb
How about 18M for Balotelli? COYS
peterballb
Peterballb that is the choice that Levy / Spurs are faced with. Put all our eggs in the Leandro basket or spred the risk across three or four young and talented players. Say we do buy Leandro and he knocks in 15-20 goals int he next four months then no matter what the price tag he will be seen as a bargain. There is an equally good chance that he starts his first game for Spurs and the opposing defender decides to "welcome" him to the premiership, chops him down and puts him out for the rest of the season and we are back to square one! Where as Hooper and Son would offer cover for each other but may not be as high profile or have as big an impact. Then again how many players have arrived with a massive price tag and performed straight out of the box!
Slurms McKenzie
I read that Defoe will either be going the injection route or, if surgery, will be done for 2 months. So, either play injured and exacerbate the situation with his pelvis or fix it and probably be three or four months from a return to game shape. Either way, it sounds like the answer to our striker question (not that it ever was IMO) is not Defoe. COYS
peterballb
Hudderspur considering that Ade isn't here and Defoe appears injured then yes Hooper and Graham are better then Obika!
Slurms McKenzie
last minute bargain basement deal.....

Odemwinger maybe....
Yidmarks
No Peter defoe is the answer to a question nobody asked!
Slurms McKenzie
Graham or Hooper just coz there cheap... otherwise spend big on ALEXIS SANCHEZ and make me smile Mr Levy......
Yidmarks
Forget Leandro. obviously the owners are in the driving seat now. When they can set the price, we have no chance. The longer they delay, the higher his price has become. His price is no longer viable for a non-bankrolled club. How much did Man U get Hernandez for? Next to nothing. That is what we should aim for, not 20m plus. Next. As gr testes said, it is too late....we kick season off in deficient state...we may as well lie in our bed now. Obika needs chance anyway. Why do we all pretend as if he does not exist? Kane is younger and got starts before Obika. Good luck son!
TonyRich
Seriously though Peter, if defoe has been carrying this injury for a while (it may explain his dramatic drop in form) then an operation makes a lot more sense, you have to assume that he has already been receiving injections for the pain. Prehaps keep injecting him as cover, until Ade returns but we still need to sign a decent striker!
Slurms McKenzie
Balotelli !?....on yer bike......says Parker...lol....son..negredo..eder...aubemeyang..hooper !?....fine.
82spursdebut
Yep'.....O'Bika and Dempsey...vs Norwich, for me.
82spursdebut
Yidmarks buy a striker with a worse return then defoes! Thats the way to go
Slurms McKenzie
At this stage its going to have to be Dempsey and Obika against Norwich! Lets see what the boy has to offer and against a team who are int he horrors at the moment!
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms, when has a player ever stepped in to the best League in the world and pumped in that many goals. He is not Messi. He is an out and out striker. Very poor defensively and he really doesn't play others in. His skills match what we need but there is no way I can see him stepping in to any European League and hitting the ground running in that fashion. If we brought him in, 5 goals would be an excellent tally for the balance of the season. Hooper, if he was to be "the man" I would expect more along the lines of 8 goals and 3 or 4 assists. If it were Son, I would expect 6-8 goals and 3-5 assists. If it were Castaignos, I would expect 6-8 goals. Son, Castaignos and Hooper all play in more direct Leagues. They are more likely to settle quicker, but to expect any player to step in to a new system, with new players and a new coach in a new League and expect them to be scoring 1 in 2 is counter to what history suggests. We can hope, but banking on it is unwise, IMO. COYS
peterballb
Please nobody mention Balotelli other than in jokes.... The guy has failed to start half the season of league in his entire career. In my mind that means that he should cost HALF the price. 9 million for a part-time player. The guy is a nightmare...imagine him with the bright lights of London around the corner...
TonyRich
Damiao is too complicated to be done in 2 days. NEgredo has a Copa Del Rey SEMI FINAL on Thursday night so he is going nowhere. This brings us down to Willian who is a midfielder mainly, Benteke who is raw and we would need to be patient with (our fans not the best at this), Hooper who we had at 14 and scoring in a ***** poor league. If we do not sign a striker then we have to develop Obika / Lancaster as back up to ADE AND JD.
COYS R US
Sorry remembered Benteke cannot go anywhere as already played for 2 teams this season.
COYS R US
Harry Kane....... :-O
Starsky
Peter I'm not that up to speed on the bundesliga so can't really comment on how well Leandro would do there but to be fair to me I was trying to agree with your post about signing these three or four players as opposed to risking it all on one lad!
Slurms McKenzie
Why dont we steal Benteke from a relagation battle! Proven in the league already. End Of. I was surprised we didnt havea go at Drogba for 18 months and then get Leo in the summer.
G Star
Hearing rumours we are in for some guy called Leandro Damiao who is he, sounds like a good goalkeeper?
spu 4 life
Big C - I like Benteke, and he will get better. But WE should have bought him in summer, not Villa. Too late. We must respect Villa's right to get at least a whole season from him.
TonyRich
Ah Jaysus benteke? Really after his one or two early games the lad has fallen off the radar anyone remember him playing against us at christmas?!!! We don't need Benteke we have enough players here who can miss sitters as it is.
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms, what drop off? Defoe does this every year. Please find me a season in his over a decade career where his numbers were significantly better than what he has done this season? His best year was 18 goals. Everyone kept going on about how great he was. No he wasn't. 5 goals against Wigan, 3 against Hull, 11 in the PL by November 22, 14 by the end of December and he finished the season with 18. 4 goals from his last 16 and, if I recall, 2 or 3 were from the penalty spot. He was terrible. So poor that Harry started playing Pav and we all know he didn't want to be doing that. Pav, in less minutes outscored both Defoe and Crouch down the stretch to get us CL.

If Defoe has serious pelvis issues (if it requires surgery, one can only assume it is) there is no way he is training, working out or doing anything at 100%. COYS
peterballb
Do you think Norwich will allow spurs to use H' Kane wednesday. Missed the boat with Benteke....like so many others. Plus he likes Arse'...Unforgiveable !..lol
82spursdebut
Lol.....if we know defoe...their are some things he will be doing 100%...xxx
82spursdebut
and Defoe's next highest is 13 in a season... He really should done better by now. He has chance this season providing that his pelvis does not fall apart...
TonyRich
TonyRich, Adebayor was not even able to start for that team. When you have Aguero (probably one of the best 3 or 4 strikers in the world), Tevez, Dzeko ahead of you, you aren't going to start much. Defoe didn't start much last year because we had Adebayor, who was better, especially with VDV.

Balotelli has issues, to be sure, but he is a prodigious talent, he's 22 and has a point to prove. I would have more confidence in him hitting the ground running than Leandro. We need help now, not in 6-12 months (fair bedding in time) COYS
peterballb
82 - that would explain the pelvic injury!
Slurms McKenzie
Big C - Does Defoe try hard enough? Benteke is only young and it is his first season here. Dzeko looked lazy and useless when he first came here... Adjustment period.... But I fully accept if you get bad vibe from him
TonyRich
Seriously I thought this Leandro article was done in the same joking manner as the coutinhio one from a couple of days ago! Why do people still think this lad is an actual option for us?
Slurms McKenzie
I think it's pretty simple. Hooper is a Spurs fan so wants to come, and we know that £8million will get him. We would no doubt prefer Negredo. If, on the final day of the window, we can get Negredo for the same £8million I believe we will get him. If we can't, we can turn to Celtic and Hooper and get the deal done. I firmly believe we will sign one of those two. Diame as well would be quality. I don't want Son; now is not the time for an untested 20-year-old.
Sebthespur
Jod, there is a risk-free way of managing a football club, and Levy has found it....probably applied for a patent on it as well.
Harry-Kari
BigC, have you watched Michu? When he does not have the ball in a scoring position he is terrible. Loose passes, little back pressure. I would not have him in my team. We need players who work both sides of the ball. It's not enough any more to just score goals. Messi could loaf around and still score as many, if not more goals, but he works his tail off. If you want to play like Barca (and we should) you need everyone able to go forward and everyone able to come back. THat's why I am very happy with Holtby and Fryers, and why I'd be getting Son in, and Belhanda or Diame. These guys just get football. COYS
peterballb
Benching defoe would allow for Ade to be played as the loan striker up front which would suit his game a lot better and allow for a settling in period for whom ever we sign (if any). Obika agaisnt Norwich with an injected Defoe on the bench!
Slurms McKenzie
peterb - talking about for inter milan too. he is all hype. his fee is not based on performances because he does not play enough. besides there are reasons why others get picked ahead of you....they perform better... Still playing less SHOULD affect your fee. When we sold Defoe, he went for 6 million because he never played. Why should Balotelli go for so much? Based on what?
TonyRich
Yep'...defoe, impact sub', ideally....or sold, this summer.
82spursdebut
To be fair to Defoe when he was having his annual purple patch this season he was also workign alot harder for the team, pressing the bad not give the oppostion time to settle, that side of his game has dried up as well since his regular slump began which maybe down to his pelvis - I dunno. Either way any season he has had a run in the team he has broken down with injury after a few months so he is never going to be our number one striker.
Slurms McKenzie
Right, AVB just come out and said he wasn’t in Scotland watching Hooper and he is not a target. Neil Lennon has said he is staying at Celtic. Done, dusted, over. AVB did however going to restate that we are fine and have plenty of cover in the Striker department. Nothings happening Guys. What a load of absolute Cod $hit.
hudderspur
Big C when did you suddenly become so indecisive?
Slurms McKenzie
Here we go again. We are being linked with a player that is in the region of 20mil how many times have we seen this in the last couple of days of the transfer window for nothing to materialise. Believe it when I see it, when the player is in the Spurs shirt and it is officially announced on the website until then all too familiar drama.
thfan
Seb, how is Son untested? Three years at Hamburgh. He has played more and more each year and has gotten better each year. He is 20. 7 goals in 18 appearances is a pretty good number in a tough league. The top goal scorer in Germany is Kiessling with 13. He is technically sound, can take corners and free kicks proficiently and can play across the AMF. He is no more unproven than Hooper and is way more "tested" than Leandro. COYS
peterballb
Yep',...."son"..all day long...plus..me mind has been changed from Negredo...to "Eder".....£10 mill' each....ideal for spurs, Enic and Avb.
82spursdebut
thfan, and who is starting all of these rumours? It was not Levy, ENIC or AVB. Only AVB has commented on him and he stated that he was still of interest to the club. That has always been the position. No one has said we are trying to sign him now. Leandro remains a target for the clubs future. That's it. COYS
peterballb
Michu is a very good goal scorer a bit like Berby, laid back so looksa as though he doesn't make much effort but he is a clever player and most of the time will do very little but that is because like Berby he is a gifted player. Whether he will maintain his performances of scoring once other teams suss him out is yet to be seen it is too early imo to say he will be a sucess. Often players come to the PL and do well but then fade and sometimes it is the opposite way round they come start slow but become better after a season or so. Imo Michu would have been a gamble but I would like to see how he does over the next season or so before I make my mind up. i remember Modric wasn't great first season. This is where taking a gamble is necessary and often it does't work out but then at times you find a real gem.
thfan
To all suggesting benteke, it's one thing to sign a p,Ayer and another to sign a player whose "dream" it is to play for arsenal
spurticus87
The fact that we only have Obika and Cameron Lancaster as cover is fairly shocking.
shidyid
Hopefully Adebeyor will be back 'on it' when he gets back. God knows we need him to be.
StillRickyVilla
Given the apparent losses the club is making and the opinion that we are fed from some quarters, ie. that if the wonderfully astute, Cambridge educated, ‘beckham of business’ Mr Levy can’t make it work, no-one can, I think its time us fans mucked in. I’ll throw my hat in the ring Daniel. More than happy to put the No9 shirt and ‘effing run around’ a bit if it helps. Been playing again recently. I’m 33, probably lost a yard or two if I’m honest but I’m 6’3” so might be of use when Dawson’s playing CB. I won’t get caught off side as much as Defoe (much because I’m unlikely to be quick enough to get there in the first place) and my first touch is maybe a bit better than Ade’s so far this season. Think of me as a kind of Pavluychenko type character only without his occasional ability to hit the odd 30 yard screamer.
gyromancered
peterballb I wouldn't take Damaio either unless it was for under £15million. You seem to have seen a lot more of Son than me, but when I said 'untested' what I really mean is: new team, new country, new language, new team mates - all at 20 years old. Some players can handle it, but plenty can't and I think both Levy and AVB would see it as too risky. For me Hooper is the go-to guy, unless we get Negredo. I wouldn't actually mind Holt or Graham, both have scored goals wherever they have gone, and both can play second fiddle to Ade if he hits form. (Cue abuse from lots of people....)
Sebthespur
spurticus - Ba was dreaming of Arsenal until Chelsea came along... Not suggesting Benteke, just I think that he has impressed on his first season here. 7 goals, 4 assists in 19 apps, where 2 of those were as sub. All for a team that has only scored 19 goals all season! They rely on him.
TonyRich
Strange noises starting that QPR are intending to make a bid to sign Scott Parker before Thursday. Apparently Redknapp believes we'll consider it now Holtby has signed and QPR are willing and able to match his wages. I can't see any sense for us at all in that deal if it is true. With Sandro injured Parker needs to stay. He's not Sandro but he can do an important job for us between now and the end of the season. I'd be happier to see Hudd sold to QPR instead.
SpuriousLife
Seb the move from Sout Korea to Germany at 17 must have been quite a shock. He seemed to adapt well and Hamburg didn't have to rush him in. Yes, there'd be oodles of pressure at Spurs, but that's the way it is when you are "the man". Where I think Son becomes risk free is that he can also play AMF so offers lots of options to the team. Then there is the marketing side of things that I would have thought Levy would have been all over. Son could be a great "poster boy" for Spurs and UA in the South Korean community. My 2 cents. COYS
peterballb
SpuriousLife, much like Hudd, I am not sure that Parker's style of play suits what AVB wants. To his credit, he has been pushing the ball forward much better this season and there has been a lot less of the side to side infernal passes. He does give it all though and players like that are of use. If QPR want to shell out 10M for him, I'd take it and buy Belhanda and get Diame in as well. We'd be a little bit out of pocket but 2 of Belhanda, Sandro, Diame and Dembele in the middle with Holtby behind the "fictitious striker" sounds pretty good to me. Parker, much like Pienaar, I'd have never signed. COYS
peterballb
Makes the place a little less entertaining Big C and is more then a little unsettling! :-)
Slurms McKenzie
Balotelli..has signed for milan.........apparantly, Defoe is ok for the Norwich game. And QPR....NO...you cannot have Our Great Scott....but you can have Hudd'...lol
82spursdebut
"sob"...has refused to sign a contract exstention..and is apparantly down to 18 months on his current contract. Thus, it does seem to suggest that he is open to a move....soon.
82spursdebut
ooops...that was meant to be "Son"..
82spursdebut
Selling parker now just puts more pressure on us to get the midfield sorted when it isn't a priorty. Do we really want Demebele trying to adjust to playing with Holtby and Diame or worse Belhanda? Just tell Harry to do one. He's flying a kite to try and scare someone else into accepting his offer! Holtby in just solves the problem Sandro's absence created and offers cover for dembele. We still need a striker so based on this thread I expect to see us signing a 'keeper any minute now!
Slurms McKenzie
Son but at which end 82?
Slurms McKenzie
Great 82 so we no longer have to sign a striker in this window!
Slurms McKenzie
Oh no wait we do need to sign one because we have Defoe avialable which means we'll be playing without any strikers (who can score).
Slurms McKenzie
I'd like two......"son" and "Eder".....but i think one, will suffice till the summer. Then ...the axe ..should fall.
82spursdebut
Has anyone checked Damio's stats on fifa 13 ultimate team , he's as slow as a cart horse fair shot but good in the air !! he is a steel at 900 coins !!! get buyin lads and make a healthy profit once he's in a spurs shirt !! #justsayin pace-71 shot-77 heading-85 and lads wait for it ........his passing skills are 49 !!! shocking LOL
South L/Derry Spurs
Big cock - i have him in the bag as my number 1 :)
South L/Derry Spurs
No chance parker will be going anywhere unless Diame is a done deal? Even then i doubt it. Why would you completley change youre midfield half way through a season?
hudderspur
South L/Derry I bought him for 28million, sold him two seasons later for 64 million (after hitting 104 goals) bought him back again the following season for 38 million plus player and he's now worth 84 million! played along side Sanchez he's unstoppable!
Slurms McKenzie
Sats'...i thought Spiderllorisman..looked young !..lol
82spursdebut
"TK are you sponsered by 4-6-0 or something??? :-)," micyid

Yes, micyid, indeed I have a new line of designer formations coming out in a Spring collection under the brand name, 4-6-0. My agents are negotiating now with some lad named Messi as a brand spokesman.

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"Micyid if you look up Total Knobhead's e-mail address its d.levy@gmail.com I think our transfer busniess over the last 18 months makes a lot more sense now! ;-)," Slurms McKenzie.

Gadszooks, Slurms, your sense of humor has left me weak kneed. The idea that I am DL! The man is bald, for sake of the gods, and I have locks that fall over my aged shoulders. He has money, I have IOUs that never will be paid. He has put together a team with Dempsey and Siggurdson pretending to play striker. I would play a 4-6-0!

Seriously, mates, DL and I have quite different motivations. His is to get more rich. Mine is to have a better quality laugh in the face of the absurdity of having a current roster with no available striker. COYSS.

Total knobhead
slurms !! thats healthy stats :) im a pace monster so he wouldnt make my bench :)
South L/Derry Spurs
again I made a fortune on Lloris as well but took a couple of seasons to convince Real to sell him back to me, he's currently keeping Neuer on the Spurs bench. The players who have survived the Slurms revolution are Lloris, Walker, Verts, Bale, Ceballos (outstanding back-up striker). Sandro left because of personal reasons!
Slurms McKenzie
South L/D its all about the pace but thats where Sanchez, Isla, Bale, Neymar, Coutinho (yes the filthy bin dipper will be sold next window) and a young prospect Called Ceasar from Chile come in! Leandro is only there because he has scored fifty plus goals in his last three seasons!
Slurms McKenzie
lol...walker,caulker, sandro...survived 10 seasons for me...and i got nearly £300mill' in the bank for the new stadium....yet still remained very competative.......lol.
82spursdebut
Total, Levy has always been the master of deception of course you wear a wig of flowing locks down to your shoulders, so we don't suspect you. And I suppose you poor health coinciding with Levy having to be in the states with his good wife was just a fluke. In fact I don't think we've ever seen you and Levy in the same room together!
Slurms McKenzie
Holtby trained with Spurs today. When the other players asked him what he was doing he answered: "it's called shooting, we practise that in Germany every day". COYS!
dannylane
I recommend that we sign Leandro Damião and play him as a deep attacking midfielder--something like the role the little Modder Focker used to play with us, with this Lewis Holtby lad playing up front of him in a high attacking midfielder role--something like the role VDV used to play with us. They then will be the center pieces in a new 4-6-0 formation, sponsored by T Knobhead Designer Formations, my new sponsorship company. Of course, Damião will have to adjust to the abandonment of his usual number 9 position in order to accommodate this designer formation, but think of the possibilities for him in endorsement riches when he stops scoring goals and begins to make recored setting numbers of potential assists that fail to get scored by Siggurdson and Dempsey from their positions on the wings after Bale moves to his childhood love team, Boca Juniors, and Lennon sulks on the reserves at QPR under Harry R who buys him for a record 800 million cruzeiros.
Total knobhead
To my knowledge, Slurms, you are right about one thing: DL and I have never been seen together.
Total knobhead
I forgot Caulker he's still my third choice CB I have Subotic and Verts as my starting pair. Hummels never really cut in in the prem, just sold him for 40 million to Barca! Got a young french lad Quintin for 11.5 million a couple of seasons back and just turned down 19million bid. He's a 6'6" monster and him and Caulker are fantastic together! Jordi Alba on the left with David Alaba as back up!
Slurms McKenzie
@dannylane: Spurs shoot all the time. Usually from 10 meters outside the box. That's why the statistics show us with 25 shots per match, but no goals.
Total knobhead
TK sign me up to that design company you're a visionary! :-)
Slurms McKenzie
TK to paraphrase the "life of Brian" only the true Daniel Levy would deny his divinity!
Slurms McKenzie
No dannylane, he was shooting and scoring and the Spurs players asked him what he was doing....
Slurms McKenzie
there is more chance hundredstone losing weight than us getting a striker in. we will have to make do with what we have got.stop deluding yourselves, you know it makes sense.
topspur53
Lol, TK, no offense meant. It just seems i haven't seen a message from you without the 4-6-0 for the last few days! You keep hold of those samsonesque locks!
micyid
peterballb - Balotelli deal is pretty much done and he is off to Millan according to sky sports! Maybe this is why the Damiao link has re-surfaced? Also I think the media have got wind the might be a few outgoing players before the window closed, which is why they might have looked at the obvious guy who has been our long term target to fill a gap. Just a thought. If we can sign the right striker excellent…if the money is there now who not take a look at Martinez of Porto? Just as much of a long shot to get imo. Also on another note, AVB has confirmed on sky sports that he was never in Scotland to look at Hooper!
SpursOne2
Slurms... Neuer as No 1... Walker / Badstuber / Subotic / Ekotto (Verts handed in a xfer request, as did Lloris)... Sanchez, Mouthino, Sandro, Bale... Pato & Rodrigo up front... The bench is awesome with Shaquiri / Insua / Neymar & Lewandowski! The football mallarky is easy!
Cape Town Spurs
"Lol, TK, no offense meant. It just seems i haven't seen a message from you without the 4-6-0 for the last few days! You keep hold of those samsonesque locks!" micyid.

It's called beating a trope to death, micyid. It's a technique perfected by academics when they tried to take over English Music Hall performance in the 1950s. As the great Jewish comic, Jesus, said: Take my life, please.

Total knobhead
phew hudderspur disappointed we not buying a striker, but to be fair to AVB he has said that from day 1, but Im glad we aint gona buy Gary Hooper
Ossie
We have 2 away games and the Woolwich have 2 at home. I hope the team are up for it unlike Leeds or by Sunday 4pm we will be taunted with mind the gap. Could do with that striker as woolwich look likely to sign 1. That leaves us with the weakest strike force in the top 7. We create enough chances just need someone to bury them. CODL
Wilts Spurs
But seriously, Micyid, what better way to make the point that we are now playing without any real striker available than to suggest we must, by default, play the beloved 4-6-0? Either that, or pretend we have a striker or two when we don't, which is what we did against Leeds the other day.
Total knobhead
seriously though, my team kiss ass and are not far removed from our current squad, save a creative midfielder & a striker... funny that!
Cape Town Spurs
"That leaves us with the weakest strike force in the top 7," Wilts Spurs.

I disagree, at least in the implied strength of your assertion, Wilts. Not only do we currently have the weakest strike force, we have NO strike force.

Total knobhead
True T K can't see a star signing. Think we'll be told tried and failed so as we are in Norwich we may come back with Grant Holt as we let the canaries sign Hooper Graham and Van Wolfswinkle with the proceeds! Hope I'm wrong but all there are no outgoing rumours either. We need to shift some wages and save the money for the summer when we know if CL is on or not.
Wilts Spurs
Have no fear, Defoe is back and will score a hat-trick at Carrow Road. He always do, just before I wake up!
dannylane
If we don't buy a striker we may just as well sell Parker (I would anyway) get a high earner off the books....isn't that what this is all about, saving money? Get Gaga in (not lady but fernando) he'd prob cost less than Diame...
shedboy2
sorry Wilts but you can't pussy foot around waiting to know if something is on or not in life, that is how life passes you by and one day you look around and say, oh $hit. It is all about creating and taking chances at the right moment. If you don't do that then CL football will never come around.
Cape Town Spurs
Already acknowledged my Togo faux pas Ossiemate.

The new breed of steward are not to be messed with Big C!

If we're only going to bring in a striker because we're light, I'd rather have Graham than Hooper. Graham at least has already done it in the Prem, Hooper hasn't.

Spuds-U-Like
be good to see Holtby tomorrow and where he plays?? Off Dempsey? alongside Demebele? He played DM last season and has said he likes playing deeper so will offer options and give the oppo some thinking to do....
shedboy2
We could become the first EPL team to make it into the CL without a proper striker. Or we could be just another EPL team to fail to get into the CL because we have no proper striker. I prefer the former scenario. I don't see us succeeding while pretending we have a striker, so: Viva the 4-6-0.
Total knobhead
sell parker, bring in diame AND lady gaga, why the F not! we should also but at least 2 more GK's as imo we don't have enough
Cape Town Spurs
about time we had payers to give the oppo something to think about shedboy... recently it's like, watch their last game, yeah, that's what you can expect, more of the same
Cape Town Spurs
choo choo TK
topspur53
At 22.59 on Thursday I will be delighted to eat a massive slice of humble pie, admit I was wrong all along etc.etc. in the event we sign a decent striker, a striker befitting a top 4 side, a striker fit to play for us in the CL next season, a striker who will contribute to us getting there. A striker with a bit of energy and enthusiasm in him, and able to display pace and finishing ability, able to head it, prepared to have a go, all the qualities that apart from Defoe's bit of n't at the momentpace, we are sadly lacking at the moment. If anybody believes that Adebayor is showing improvement in the ACN with his listless, disinterested performances, then God help us, the bloke makes Berbatov look over energetic. In all fairness when he isn't in the mood, as he clearly isn't at the moment, he is a total waste of space.
Frank
Ok TK, you taking the p--- now! Don't think we haven't noticed that you've managed to shoehorn 4-6-0 into both those messages!
micyid
And another! Stop it!
micyid
I'll also have a slice of that humble pie, Frank. Let's see. Ade is a total waste of space and would probably be better working in the ticket office than taking up space on the pitch. A great shame, because he has huge talent when he can be bothered. I think Ade thinks he is too big for football. Personally you could not take Ade far enough away for me.
Cape Town Spurs
Frank, if we don't sign anyone fine, if we are linked to a £20+ player and it falls through at the last second ill but you a slice of pie, a nice cream tea and tell lord Johny he is far superior to me in every single way!
spurticus87
Cape Town agree meant some of deadwood off wages now. different to needing striker now which is essential. two threads just not separated well. Invest in striker now in fee and wages to ensure top 3 finish. offsett with JJ hudd and bentley out.
Wilts Spurs
this we dont need a striker talk needs to stop and levy go out and buy an agressive goalscorer....simple
rovinella62spurs
I am duly chastised that I have inserted IV-VI-nulla into too many posts, so I will post it only in Roman nomenclature for now. The problem, of course, is that the Romans had no numeral for zero, so one ends up with a ********ization that includes a Latin word in place of a numeral. (Alternatively, one could say IV-VI-Huh Oh!) Perhaps this why the Roman legions always played with an obviously attacking striker; they had no good way to describe a formation devoid of strikers! They did wear pretty classy kits, however, and each team had a great banner. But in terms of formations, the limitations of their numerical notations seems to exclude playing a 4-6-0. (There I go again: Doh!)
Total knobhead
B@st@rdiz@tion. perfectly appropriate word for what I was trying to express and not an insulting terms for a troll. Stop it, censoring algorithm!
Total knobhead
By the way, the mogols that gave us the word algorithm also gave us a notation for zero, allowing me to describe the IV-VI-zero formation. Blame them, not me. Or, have DL bring in a proper striker and I won't have a strikerless team to motivate my obsession with the IV-VI-Uh Oh.
Total knobhead
Been tooting the crack again TK?
Crissybwoy
Interesting hypothesis, Crissybwoy. I don't even drink coffee or tea, much less the softer drugs like cocaine. Gave up smoking in all its forms decades back. Never did take up smoking in glass pipes, though. Must be true madness as it can't be attributed to illicit substances. But, I don't think it's madness to point out that we have no true striker on the roster at present, a situation that demands radical rethinking of how to proceed (or it demands sticking one's head in the sand and pretending that all is normal when it isn't; Dempsey and Siggurdson seem decent enough lads and players, but strikers they ain't).
Total knobhead
TK, isn't 4-6-0 the configuration of the old steam engines that graced my youth? You can see similarities between them and Barcelona-style football as you listen to all the huffin' and puffin' from the players with 0 being the number of goals scored unless you have Messi in your team. It would be interesting to see if we could become the first team to qualify for CL by drawing every game 0-0 from now until the end of the season. It has come to something when we treat the return of an injured non-goal-scorer as good news.
Harry-Kari
For all of you saying Damaio could fail, etc, etc, whatever happened to 'to dare is to do'! Here is the reason we cannot lose on Damaio. Scenario 1. Buy Damaio for 25m and pay him 5m a year for years. Payments to Inter over 4 years = 6.25m a year, over 3 years= 7.6m a year. Salary at 100k a week, not much more than our top earner now. He scores 20 goals and we get top 4 or even top 3. CL money = 30m (at least). Profile of club goes up, able to attract better players, build better team and challenge for title. Build on this so we become top 3 challengers and push arsenal and chelsea out the way. Scenario 2. Damaio scores 5 goals and is hailed as worst buy since Veron. However he still excels for Brazil and becomes their No.1 striker. We dont qualify for champs league. Season 2. He struggles again and scores 10 goals, cannot adopt to english game and wants to leave. His performances for Brazil are world class and he is scoring lots of goals. End of 2014 season, he has had an awful season and he wants to move. World cup. Brazil lose to Spain in one of the best finals ever and Damaio is top scorer, golden boot winner. His value has not diminished due to his international reputation. On the back of the World cup PSG make a 35m,25m, or 15m bid (take your pick). In a year and a half, we have paid Inter 10m and Damaio 7.5m in wages. We accept the 15m offer. We lose 2.5m in 1.5 years and dont qualify for champs league. That is the worst case scenario, which is what we are looking at right now. Do, I really have to talk about the best case scenario?
vicspur
You are right Harry Kari, most of our lot would struggle to score in a brothel.
Frank
I see Defoe is fit for Norwich so we are ok then. No more worries about another defeat due to lack of goals lol
Big Ron
Vicspur, what will definitely fail is a strategy that sees us carry on until the end of the season, without signing a striker to score regularly. How long is it since Defoe scored, and how many has our idle friend from Togo contributed so far. Damaio could not fail worse than him.
Frank
Jezz, Vicspur, I easily can imagine worse case scenarios than the one you describe, but I agree that one doesn't do well in life by such imaginings. Damião is likely to thrive if he comes to N17. I'd be happy to see such a signing, although he isn't playing as well right now as he had been, largely due to lots of niggling injuries. (And I wasn't at all serious earlier when I said we should sign him and turn him into a deep-playing midfielder like the little Mo Fo. I was just trying to make a point about players playing out of position, like our current use of non strikers in a strikers position.)

And yes, the 4-6-0 gauge model train set was great. Had one on the floor under my father's piano when I was a wee lad. It taught me that what goes around comes around, as model trains always run in circles (or off the tracks), much likd football teams with players out of position.

Total knobhead
If we don't sign the striker that we need/ want/are desperate for in this window, will the ILWT stalwarts commit to do what I have done, admit they were wrong, eat humble pie etc.etc. or will we be reading into perpetuity the excuses, explanations, why we couldn't, were unable to, get it done, or we ran out of time, after all we have only had a month.
Frank
Before you all jump on me, I have realised I was working out 2 different sets of figures..lol. worst case scenario should read we lose 17.5m in 1.5 years if we only accept 15m, which is a lot, granted. But we are talking about of the best young talents in the world and still worth taking a chance on as if he is even a mild success, he will be better than what we have and we will get CL football.
vicspur
Also, another season without CL equates to a loss of earnings of at least 35m.
vicspur
Get wednesday game out of the way 3pts and get ready for manic thursday, we have until 23-00pm, we are 2 hrs ahead of Brazil, hope they don't have an early night on thursday
spu 4 life
Frank,surely those of us who are not in the levy out club will simply reason that we obviously couldn't get anyone in for a sensible price who was better than we have already :-).
micyid
Big Ron, I know its still not an ideal situation, but I'd much rather have Dempsey playing behind Defoe, than Sigurdsson playing behind Dempsey. Defoe being fit is welcome news. Lets just hope he scores a few.
Fanman
"Jermain's body feels well, he feels fine about his fitness and he trained today. Obviously he's disappointed that he had to miss Leeds but we've seen excellent work by the medical department to get him back. He's selected for Norwich and Lewis Holtby is in the squad as well. We've a minor setback with Tom Huddlestone - tightness in his quad - so we won't take a risk by taking him." --tightness in his quad, how by fast walking? tighness in eating a quarter pounder more likely?
spu 4 life
tightness in his quad= he's off?
shedboy2
shedboy to wet spam for Diame +££££ i hope, Diame can run
spu 4 life
spu Thud's not Sam's type of player but Fulham I could see....Diame can run alright...didn't look too clever last time I saw him but hey I've not watched him over time so perhaps he has something to offer...
shedboy2
Surely shum mishtake blog.squawka.com/2013/01/29/arsenal-consider-move-for-former-tottenham-maestro-now-at-madrid-transfer-scouting-report/?
In-spurs-ational
Let's be accurate about Defoe's fitness. If he is able to play tomorrow it is only because he is having a series of painkilling injections in his pelvis so he can actually play. That can only go on for a short while. If we don't buy a striker knowing this about Defoe then I think I'm going to boil my head in the oven!
SpuriousLife
So micyid, you still won't admit that if we fail to get a striker in by the deadline, leaving us short and vulnerable up front, and endangering our 4th place finish and CL qualification, that Levy got it wrong, and sold us short.
Frank
No way, Frank, just as you will just find the next thing to complain about if we do. Apart from the stadium, of course. :-) Also i wonder if we do buy a player and they turn out to be the new Rasiak, who will the blame be pointed at? I imagine i can guess. So i'm happy to wait and see. And trust, lol.
micyid
Defoe has been terrible the last 8 games and a good while before that. Until he scored, I had him as our worst player with Gallas against Villa. He has been awful. There is no chemistry with anyone in our squad, so he either gets something out of nothing or he gets nothing out of something. I have yet to see him beat anyone for pace this season. If he's taking injections, he should not be first choice. COYS
peterballb
Vicspur dont let your imagination run away now will you lol! To be honest id love Damiao but it aint happening
HuddersfieldYiddo
I'm with you spurious about Defoe, I'm thinking they'll keep giving him injections until Ade's back which I think will be for Newcastle( unless they get to the final) and rely on Dempsey as back up.
Jantheman
wouldn't criticise defoe...if he's taking injections to play, he's doing it for the team...and he's all we got. Deserves support....
shedboy2
May be this injury Defoe has is why he hasn't done so well recently after a good start. However, it is impossible to know as he does go through baron spells every season. We could do with his goals again now in the next few games so lets hope he finds his goal scoring boots again. Soon be over Thursday is near my friends.
thfan
QPR draw with City - just shows you every game is unpredictable.
thfan
"TAXI 4 Total knobhead !!," big cockeral.

No, no, big c. The correct expression is "Hello McFly." How easily you forget.

Total knobhead
Well done Harry!! I hope you keep QPR up.
Madaboutspurs
Some very interesting Opta stats on Sky:

•Tottenham Hotspur have used a league-high 27 players already this season in the Premier League.

•Norwich have collected just one point from their last six Premier League games (L5 D1), fewer than any other side over this period

•Only once in PL history have Tottenham had more points than their 41 after 23 games this season (49 points last season).

With Hotby we'll be on 28 players!!!....Some record!
Critical_Spur
I seriously doubt we will sign anymore players in this transfer window. Be prepared to be disappointed.
MrSpurs
Critical, interesting point you make about us having the second highest total of points at this stage in the last 20 years. ENIC MUST be doing a terrible job if points are anything to go by, Levy out.
Crissybwoy
Seriously you'd fu€king think after 4 years of not having a decent striker we'd have some idea of where to get one.

Norwich tomorrow could be a sign on things to come, we are unbeaten in 7, their last win was 7 games ago. Got to win!!

On the bright side, at least we didn't get Balotelli, most over rated piece of s hit in football.
T.H.F.Chris
Criisybwoy, What concerned me with htose stats was that we have used 27 players so far + now Hotby. That is without using the likes of JJ and Bentley!. Can anyone think of others in the squad who have not had a game yet? At least AVB must have a good idea how many of those need to be shown the door. Any new arrivals must surely mean departures too?
Critical_Spur
Critical, my calculations put the squad size at 23, 25 if Jenas and Bentley are registered in that squad. Saying that, we save a place unfortunately on Sandro being out, so we have one squad number available atm.
Crissybwoy
The room is there in the squad, if the ambition isn't then more fool us. Would be nice if we could fill that No.9 shirt by Thursday evening. Am I expecting us to? No. My glass is always half-full though.
Crissybwoy
Yes, I agree with all of you re. getting a striker. After 8 transfer windows, you'd think we'd get someone but NOOOO. Not holding my breath. Go on Mr Levy, surprise us.
Madaboutspurs
Cape Town, I've Shaquiri on the bench, Isla is still my go to right midfielfder even at thirty! But getting bored of signing all the big name players, I'm trying to develop my youth squad. Picked up one great chilean lad and a decent Irish right back and a very young striker called Browne who's hit 8 in his last ten premiership games for me! With all these pups running around I have a fw spare coppers knocking around so I've put in a cheeky bid for messi 46 million plus Bale (after transfer request) but Barca want 56 million plus bale - greedy bustards!
Slurms McKenzie
Critical_Spur, Gomes hasn't played since the summer friendly in the states! But he's goin' to brazil as part of the Leandro deal so we don't gain or lose a place in the 25man squad. ;)
Slurms McKenzie
I don't know if anyone has said this yet but with Defoe a doubt for tomorrow we could potentially be looking at a 4-6-0 formation against Norwich. Is anyone aware of any other prem team fielding eleven players but no striker? How would a 4-6-0 formation work? Would we play Parker and Livermore/hudd as holding players behind Bale, Siggy/Holtby, Dempsey and Lennon? Why is no one talking about this?
Slurms McKenzie
^ Genius.
Crissybwoy
You talkin' to me Crissybwoy?
Slurms McKenzie
Crissy I'm not a Total Knobhead, we may well have no strikers for the game against Norwich! I know its crazy to suggest we might have foreseen this, after all in December we had two "strikers"and only one was going to the african cup of nations. Only a mad man would even consider pondering a situation where your only other striker gets injured. I mean players hardly ever get injured especially ones who have been injured before. Right?
Slurms McKenzie
No sorry I'm thinking of signing strikers, not injuring them...Spurs hardly ever sign strikers!
Slurms McKenzie
Anyway Obika up top with Dempsey behind 4-4-1-1 and all is right with the world!
Slurms McKenzie
Another 48 hours!...any more relevant film names?!
Critical_Spur
*Gasp* But what if Obika gets injured or sent off? No i'm being silly that could never happen...
Slurms McKenzie
The man who wasn't there?
Slurms McKenzie
The man who knew too little? more for the ITKs!
Slurms McKenzie
For the ENIC and Levy haters: "The world is not enough"
Slurms McKenzie
The never ending story?...for the leandro transfer
Slurms McKenzie
Little Shop of Horrors? for Levys transfer deadline deals!
Slurms McKenzie
Mannequin? In honour of our new bargain basement striker!
Slurms McKenzie
See no Evil, Hear no Evil? for the Levy/ENIC lovers!
Slurms McKenzie
Stand by me? the case for no signings!
Slurms McKenzie
One crazy summer? more with a view to the future
Slurms McKenzie
Porky's? for Daniel and AVB's press conference on the 1st of Feb
Slurms McKenzie
Planes, Trains & Automobiles? how our new signings will be getting here?
Slurms McKenzie
When a racehorse performs badly the trainer will ask the vet to run certain test's, like looking for dope, poor blood count, after sunday's performance AVB asked the club doctor, to run test's on all the players, what came to light was some dope in the no 6 and no 22 shirts.
spu 4 life
Predator? What we're all hoping for in a striker!
Slurms McKenzie
Great idea Critical! I'm going to bed!
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms, I actually thought your ironic post about 4-6-0 was funny, and amusing enough to to think that it was worth respecting in light of TK's earlier thoughts. It made me laugh.
Crissybwoy
Good posts there, Slurms M. lol :-)
Madaboutspurs
Levy -The Negotiator
Our Man Clint!

Nite!
Critical_Spur
This so called 'Levy-time' is actually NOT funny and is a bit of a sick joke. Not that happy really. Damaio name being thrown around again. Haven't we been link with him since he was about like 10 years old. Why talk about this in the last 3 days of the window, assuming the rumour has some legs to it. Really, do we have no scouts? Do the scouts only work during the window period? Why or why we all have to deal with this ineptness I cannot understand.
Madaboutspurs
Mad, this is the reality of Spurs. Most strikers out there do not suit what we are doing (ie not good enough or they just are not what the manager want). Most of those that fit, are not, in any way, affordable. Those remaining are likely good enough for some perennial CL teams and they will hold out for that until the last (Levy time) at which time they will accept the likely wage increase to stay where they are, or they will accept us. It's just the way it is. Yes, Leandro has been talked about plenty in previous windows. Why, I know not. Until this window, there has not been any indication that the club was willing to sell or had the player or his agent indicated they would consider leaving. In December comments attributed to the agent and to the club (all of which was later confirmed by comments by the player himself) seemed to indicate that they would consider a move. So, whether it has been talked about for the past 3 or 4 windows or not is irrelevant. It has only been an option this window. I still suspect as it is an unlikely prospect. I believe that there is a list. I suspect we are waiting on Negredo. If he likes our offer best, he will come. If not we start moving down the list. It's why I would have just signed Son a couple of weeks ago. Get the pressure off. He is potential striker and wing option. Fee mooted seems reasonable and he is so technically sound. I could see where he and Holtby could be lethal. There are scouts. It's why players like Vertonghen, Holtby, Fryers and other shave been brought in. It isn't easy living within a reasonable budget. We do it because the continued progress of the club depends on it. The list of clubs who have gambled beyond their means and failed is a long one. I do not like the prospects of Southampton, Villa, QPR. If they go down it's an unmitigated disaster. If they stay up, it's probably just a disaster. And all that is without looking at the consequences of the wages they have undertaken. Their problem, not ours. Immediate issue is Norwich then on to the deadline. COYS
peterballb
Voice of reason peter, thanks :-) immediate issue- 3 points needed from Norwich game . COYS!!
Madaboutspurs
For those keeping tabs on our striker in Africa, Togo play Tunisia tonight needing only a draw to go through to the quarter-finals to meet Burkina Faso on Sunday (Tunisia need to win to go through). Togo have never got past the group phase of the Nations Cup, but with our shortage of strikers, they look like they'll be there for a while longer.
In-spurs-ational
tonight will be a game that i think Levy will be watching...

Levy will be begging for Togo to lose... so he can save a few pennies.

I actually think that with Ade back asap... we have a good first X1..and i hope we can see the team look like this by the time we meet Newcastle...

........................Adebayor.........................
...............................................................
...Bale.................Holtby..............Lennon...
..............................................................
...........Dembele..............Parker...............
................................................................
...BAE.........Verts.......Daws/Caulk...Walker..
...............................................................
.........................Lloris..............................

im hoping that Holtby could show us a bit of VDV magic when paired with Ade....
Yidmarks
I'm hoping Togo go through. Not only may it force Levy's hand, but hopefully it means that Ade will be in some sort of form when he comes back
In-spurs-ational
Film titles.

For all the rabid Levy & ENIC haters & the rabid Levy/ENIC lovers:

Shutter Island.

Spuds-U-Like
http://www.clubcall.com/tottenham-hotspur/striker-boost-for-spurs-1-1538760.html How is that a striker boost, this Defoe loving media doesn`t know anything about the situation we are facing.
noone
If dan as been working on the damiao deal from the start of the mounth it might happen as there is a lot of people that own a slice of him ! So is it going to be a striker and top four or europa cup at best if some players score the odd goal.
Little spur
Get son min as he will suit as dan cant lose as he will make money of the pitch for the club also i believe will do very well on it !
Little spur
A few moments thought for our 'low profile' chairman as he sits there, armed with his Amstrad computer (a free gift from sir scum) logged into the Ebay last minute bargain basement, fantasy professional footballers home page, where he found VDV at the very last minute, and flogged VDV at the very last minute. Yes our esteemed Chairman Danny boy, has bought over 100 professional footballers, (4 squads worth!) because this is what Danny boy lives for, the adrenalin, the buzz, the excitement of those last Fantasy Football Ebay minutes, just before the window is about to close. What a buzz for Danny, as he plays real life Fantasy Football Ebay with our club! It only happens twice a season for Danny Boy, so wish him well, because the clubs whole future, (1 League Cup in 12 seasons, 1 CL experience in 13 seasons, no FA Cup final appearances in 13 seasons, and no new stadium for 13 years and counting) is in Danny Boys hands! How very sad the window only happens just twice a year! Poor Little Rich Kid...
pelebro
Anyone any thoughts on Vydra on loan at Watford. Czech international scoring for fun in the Championship. He mmay have played for 2 clubs this season already though. Youndster for the future maybe ? Cheap, just as Levy likes them.
COYS R US
COYS R US, How dare you use the word CHEAP and LEVY in the same sentence!
pelebro
Give it rest now pelebro you're starting to sound desperate, its extremely boring.

Spuds-U-Like
Spuds-U-Like, Give it a rest? Shouldn't you be saying that to peterbaalb who on a percentage level writes 33.25 ENIC apologists posts to one of my harmless Danny Boy's got to go posts... And that's an official VitalSpurs percentage stat! ;-] And what about poor Jermaine Defoe who gets literally slaughtered on here repeatedly by Peter, and for what? Because he's not as good Pav? Or cause Levy is to tight to pay for an upgrade? ;-]
pelebro
If Pav is the bench mark for our strikers then I reckon I'm in with a shout of being signed!
Slurms McKenzie
What??? Everton in for Negredo?
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