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Norwich City vs. Tottenham Hotspur.

27th December 2011; "Third-placed Tottenham Hotspur closed the gap on the top two to seven points, with a rousing 2-0 win against Norwich City at Carrow Road with two Gareth Bale goals"

April 9, 2012; Norwich get a famous 1-2 win at White Hart Lane, and it is fully deserved too. Elliott Bennett with a brilliant winner on an afternoon when Norwich could have had three penalties!

"October 31st 2012; Two late strikes and a penalty save from Mark Bunn ensured Norwich's passage through to the quarter-finals of the Capital One Cup after a thrilling 2-1 victory over Tottenham at Carrow Road".

"September1st2012; "Tottenham Hotspur put together yet another disappointing 1-1 performance and are now winless through their first three Premier League matches."

The Norwich game at WHL was really the worst we had looked. There was no inventiveness, no creativity, and seemingly no desire to win from the players. Norwich City, meanwhile, seemed raring to go and forced the action right from the off.

Our recent track record against Norwich has not been good and they are fast becoming a bogey team for us. In our September fixture this season at the Lane it took us 30 minutes before we even got a shot on goal and, despite Mousa Dembele making his debut at half time, Thudd still managed to undermine Mousa`s arrival by getting a straight red, which was then compounded by a scrambled goal by Robert Snodgrass right at the end of the game to give Norwich a deserved draw.

I`m glad to say we have grown as a team since our winless start to this season and we are starting to look more a cohesive unit, at least in the Premiership games, Cup Games? maybe not! We go to Carrow Road to face a team whose Premiership form has not been good recently, 6 Premiership Games without a win, which even if the opposition, that includes Chelsea and Man United, the humiliating 5-0 hammering at the hands of Liverpool in their last league outing, will be hugely worrying, especially after also going out of the FA Cup in such embarrassing circumstances

That result was the weekends biggest FA Cup shocker against Blue Square Premier side Luton, 85 places lower in the football pyramid than Norwich. Norwich City became the first Premier League team to be knocked out of the FA Cup by non-league opposition. Saturdays result will definitely not have helped Norwich`s confidence and you have to be wondering if Chrissie may be facing the same fate he suffered at Newcastle, so this match with Spurs takes on greater significance for him personally.

Meanwhile we arrive at Carrow Road on the back of yet another frustrating FA Cup result as well. However, with possibly a stronger side than the one that faced Norwich at the Lane, we need to pick ourselves up from the Leeds result. Everyone will be expecting us to win, especially in light of Norwich`s recent form, which also adds pressure on to us to get a result.

If we are to maintain our 4th place though, and put pressure on a dysfunctional (kick his ball! ......NO! The one in his hand) Chelsea! We really need to walk away with all 3 points. Although the draw against Manure felt like a win the reality is we have picked up just 2 points from 6 in our last two games.

A draw at Carrow Road would probably see The Arse closing our lead down to 2 points, provided they beat Liverpool at the Emirates, and Chelski have an away match at Reading that has the potential to be yet another "Hazard" for them, but, if Injuries 4 U Chelski win, it would allow them to open up a big gap between us. If we fail to get a result at Norwich its West Brom away next, another match that, in the first fixture this season at the Lane, made everyone wonder just where AVB was coming from.

There is no doubt that we have struggled recently against Norwich and their recent 3-4 performance against Manchester City shows the character their side has at home, although to be fair to Citeh, they did have Sami Nasri sent off, opening the door for Norwich to come back from a 2 -0 deficit.

We will also have to be mindful that Chrissy Houghton will be hurting, a 5-0 drubbing at Anfield last time out, and "that" FA Cup result to Luton must feel like a personal all time low for him as a manager. So, should we expect a reaction? Can we deal with Snodgrass and Holt? Where are our goals going to come from? Suddenly, this match has taken on a whole new dimension.

Written by OyVeh Maria




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Date:Wednesday January 30 2013

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Your Comments

Only a win will do. Holtby to start.

Spuds-U-Like
Morning all!!! Going for a 1-2 win. Personally wouldn't start Holtby as he has only been in the squad for 2-3 days. Will be a difficult game but expect us to respond after the shambles on sunday!!!
woodyn17
Need to show a different attitude from the off. I expect Daws and/or Gallas to start. I think Benny will get another start and Naughton rested. Demps + Defoe start, Gylfi on bench. Would like to see Holtby given 15 minutes. COYS!
Critical_Spur
agree on an older head alongside Vertonghen, who was poor on Sunday. personally I would go with Dawson and Vert and have Walker and BAE either side. Hopefully Defoe will be fit and also feeling as near to 100% as possible, but even if he isnt able to play, I would give Holtby a place on the bench at best tonight
oxfordspur
Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Verts, BAE, Parker, Dembele, Lennon, Dempsey, Bale, Defoe. Subs: Friedel, Naughton, Caulker, Livermore, Sig, Holtby, Obika.
Sebthespur
2 Big days for AVB and Spurs. Gonna be a Rollercoaster.......will be interesting to see the team selected for this one. Glad i'm not picking the team. 3/5/2....for me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>Defoe...Dempsey<<<<<<<<<<<< .................................................................................. Bale ........Dembele.........Parker.......Lennon..........walker ................................................................................. ...............Vertongehen......Caulker......Dawson.............. ................................................................................ ......................................Lloris................................... Subs: Friedel, naughton, Ekotto, Livermore, Holtby, Townsend,Siggurdsen. "come on you spurs"
82spursdebut
If Defoe is fit, that would be my line up Seb.
oxfordspur
82spursdebut, why look to change to a three man back line? a radical change to the system at this stage, is simply impractical and fraught with risk
oxfordspur
Id definitely have Holtby on the bench at least. It’s not like he’s been sitting on his arse for the last few months he’s fully fit. Yeah ok he doesn’t know the squad and style just yet but quality is quality. If a bit of magic wins the game then its 3 points regardless. My Prediction 2-1 Norwich, for the simple reason that we are just not putting chances away. I Just hope we manage to bring in a decent striker before tomorrow. AVB has hinted we are looking but think he’s holding out for a long shot. Pool have tied up Coutinho, with him and sturridge we have another genuine challenger for 4th. Its Going to be tough whatever we do, but without another striker id say we haven’t got a prayer TBH.
hudderspur
Lloris, Naughton, Dawson, Verts, Assou, Dembele, Parker, Lennon, Dempsy, Bale and Defoe for me. Think thats our best team we have to get the result tonight. Holtby to get 15 mins would be nice
spurspanther
Cos' i think it's suits spurs better at the min'..........i.e...it's 5 /3 /2.....when defending......3/5/2..when attacking. Keeps bale ...our converted left back ...primarily on the left. Walker has enough pace, too, for getting up and down. Don't think it's particularly radical.........seems to me, walker often reduces the spurs defensive formation..when supposedly playing a 4 at the back. And it certainly isn't impractical....in view of their abilities. I doubt we have played 2 consecutive games with the same team, this season. I would also like 3 big uns'...down the centre...in view of Holt and Snodgrass. Plus.....our own corners. If it isn't working......nothing to stop AVB changing it, during the game...i.e..he has 3 subs. Just my thoughts.....
82spursdebut
Lets feck them,Those Canaries!With our savior,The Injected Defoe we are unstoppable!! p.s I want Holtby to get some game time
SilwalYid
what i have seen of Siggy playing on the left, i was impressed...

Why not rest Defoe, push Bale up front and start Siggy out on the left..
Switch it up after half time and bring on Defoe and Holtby...
Yidmarks
Not a bad shout yidmark
spurspanther
I think if holtby starts it should be ahead of defoe alongside dempsey. defoe on as an impact sub if he is not yet 100%. better have him as plan B and perhaps not needed than start with him only to have him pull up within 20 minutes or exacerbate the problem
Guernman
Yid'....i too have wondered about Bale...up front. But i think ..i prefer to see him doing those bursting runs, from deeper.
82spursdebut
Yep'...very difficult....at the min'.....on the team selection and formations possible.
82spursdebut
I actually thing the last two draws (away at QPR & home to ManU) were positive results, however, reality is 2 points from six, so a win tonight is very important. It won't be easy and we need to be at our best and fill the team with a mix of fight and creativity - Dembele back in for sure and maybe Dawson. COYS
Windlespur
Just had an image of LEVY waking up this morning and thinking, right - to do list, suppose I'd best start considering January transfer window then. Na, maybe tomorrow afternoon :)
Windlespur
i think he has been hard at work windlespur..

counting and re-counting his money... in tears if he has to spend it..
Yidmarks
We should play our new striker....
TopSpur13
i think we have to go all out attack tonight... coz u know that Norwich will try to park the bus on us at some point....

37 hours to go (GMT)
Yidmarks
Windlespur - I thought it was AVB that made the lists for Levy. I think it had Alderweireld, Wanyama, Diame, Moutinho, Willian, Ince, Damaio and Negredo on it. Not sure it ever had Hooper though :-)
muttley
I also see Harry is up to his old tricks again. Last night he put 2 keepers on the bench obviously trying to convince Fernandez that he doesn't have enough players. The strange thing was that he played at home. He obviously has no good youngsters either he could have called into the squad. Sound familiar? It certainly would to Pletikosa.
muttley
christ I am so glad to be rid of harry. what a ******** nightmare he must be for his chairman, constantly moaning to his media buddies that he needs more and more players. the old trick of playing two keepers on the bench (yes we remember that one harry) his only interest now in deflecting blame from himself as he begins to realise that they might not get out of this mess after all. the fact that QPR have already dug a very deep hole for themselves of absolutely no concern for him whatsoever. Still if we can flog him jenas and bentley than bloody brilliant ;)
Guernman
For what it's worth is Defoe over his injury, if he is then he has to start, if it plays up he can be replaced, if it was to go again as a sub, we then have a major problem, only AVB has that answer, keeping Dempsey back on the bench. Starting Lewis Holtby would allow him to get to grips with the pace of premier league football, you settle into a game and it's more natural, coming on as a sub, the game is going on around you at 100 miles an hour, he is a talent, let's use it from the off, better in my view to play 60/70mins, then 15/20mins towards the end. Dawson has to be a must start player, with Vertonghen or Caulker, Lloris we know will be back in goal. I would go with Lloris; Walker; Dawson; Vertonghen; BAE; Lennon; Parker; Dembele; Bale; Holtby; Defoe.
spu 4 life
Guernman.... if we can get rid of Jenas, Bentley and Gomez for anything more than a cup of tea and a kitkat... we would be up for it... just the wages would save us around 8 million a year... (guess)
Yidmarks
I would play HOLTBY to mate...

if he is gonna settle in to a PL game is might as well be against Norwich....
Yidmarks
Im sorry Guys but just need to say this again, whether Defoe is fit or not is irrelevant. The fact is, he clearly has an on going problem which will need treatment sooner rather than later. AVB bloody summed it up when he said we have two proper strikers and then Dempsey……well one of those two strikers isn’t here AVB and the other is touch and go with Injury. The thing is making me writhe with anger is we all know that come spurs will release a statement on Friday morning saying Defoe needs surgery, and we didn’t buy s striker. Which leaves us with Clint as our only option. We all know its going to happen but we cant do anything to stop it. In all fairness we could / should have bought 2 strikers let alone one.
hudderspur
Norwich only being the team that knocked us out of the Capital one cup and held us at the lane...
TopSpur13
I can see us putiing in a 40M bid in for Falcao...
spurspanther
But not having the paperwork done till 11.01 DAMN
spurspanther
http://hereisthecity.com/2013/01/30/agent-vertonghen-tottenhams-secret-weapon-to-sign-leandro-damiao/

didnt know this... VERTS & DAMAIO share the same agent
Yidmarks
I think we can take from AVB's words, that Holtby, will be starting tonight.
82spursdebut
yidmarks - means sweet FA
hudderspur
yidmarks I have the same agent as many other people, but we don't all holiday at the same destination. But i understand what you mean, i was just reading the same article. He would and is top of my wish list, i think Leandro would be the icing on the cake, superb striker, his made for a team like spurs.
spu 4 life
this more exciting than any movie in this world. Who the hell will Daniel Levy sign in the next 48 hours?!
noone
And 50m for Cavani too I hear panther. Happy Days
TopSpur13
If we had those two up front topspur they might as well give us the league
spurspanther
&#1087;&#1086;one-and the name of the movie is noone!but i am more than happy to be proved wrong!!!
SilwalYid
noone*
SilwalYid
SilwalYidy, oh my god you think it will be noone? What a great time to be a spurs fan! Surely a better striker than Falcao or Cavani...
noone
same team as Seb - Defoe if fit has to start, really, really important. Norwich are there for the taking with the worse form and worse result of the weekend. If we win tonight we will be unbeaten in 8 and on the march, if we draw we'd have taken 3 points from 9. Can't afford to let other teams catch up on us when playing the likes of Norwich if we have any ambition this season.
T.H.F.Chris
Did you know Daniel Levy is a fan of ABBA, sitting down to breakfast, he will get out the Abba 9 CD box set, selecting disc 4 and going to his favourite track No 6 singing away to Money,Money,Money,
spu 4 life
You know Defoe will score 4 goals tonight, giving levy an excuse not to buy a cf.
Tottenham Hotcore
I think our last game is the first sign of the dip in form like we had last year. I got a bad feeling about tonights game
SPUDMAN
Heard a rumour that Fulham have bid £5 million for HUdd - hope it is true, but out & about. Any firm news or is this just gossip guys ???????????????
Windlespur
daily mail....have mentioned Hudd and Fulham. But also speculation that they are in for a Ac milan midfielder. I hope it's true on Hudd'......as it may free up some finances, for a striker.
82spursdebut
Taking the pressure off the game and transfers, this is funny but so true, light hearted read; http://news.uk.msn.com/socialvoices/welcome-to-ones-united-kingdom-enjoy-your-stay
spu 4 life
tommy hundred-stone (still makes me laugh) 5m from Fulham if that is true, BLACK CAB FOR HUNDRED-STONE please. ASAP. Take the money and run, which is a lot more then he can.
spu 4 life
I've heard that there is a worry that Defoe will not be fully fit for tonight. Could be he's only fit enough for the bench (with painkilling injections the only reason he can even do that) as he won't make a full 90 minutes. I hope that is wrong as it will make tonight's game even more complicated.
SpuriousLife
Of course he is ghulam, that's the sum total of his scouting system, established players he already knows about. Fact is, with the possible exception of Samba, they were simply not good enough for us & we should all be relieved that Quincey failed to get them. I see a few of the players we were linked with under Quincey in the past aren't exactly ripping up trees these days.

Spuds-U-Like
unfortunately damiao has so many owners and therefore so many agents he probably shares one with every third premier league player and kevin bacon
Guernman
According to reports Defoe being treated using the controversial blood draining technique, it doesn't ogre well for the rest of the season, if we have to bodge him up to get him on the pitch, this makes it even more vital that we sign a striker.
Frank
Tonight is a "must win", we can't afford to go 3 PL games without a win, not with Everton, Arsenal, and Liverpool all hovering just behind, incidently a draw between Arsenal and Liverpool will do us fine. Tonight's game, followed by WBA (A), could prove key to us getting back to winning ways, then Newcastle (H), and West Ham (A). Will be interesting to see how Holtby goes when he gets a game.
Frank
So, we either have Defoe starting at forward--a man who probably should not be playing because of a shaky pelvis--or was have people at forward who are not forwards, or we forgo having a formation with any forwards. An injured forward, a pretend forward, or no forwards. I'll no go into the IV VI nulla business, since it surely has played its usefulness in discussion here (even has a trope to emphasize our crisis at the forward position), but surely one cannot face the facts coming into this match vs Norwich without at least a passing mention into the absurdity of having a top four club in the EPL going into a match with NO FIT FORWARD. (Yes, I know it's not polite to scream by using all Caps.) But surely all of this absurdity begs for some discussion of playing a formation that reminds one of miniature model railroads in place of playing our sole (damaged goods) forward or playing Siggurdson and Dempsey up front (as they are not forwards at all). Sorry to mention all of this again as I'm sure I'm playing the role of a broken vinyl (remember those?).

Unfortunately I've a commitment that will have me out and away at the time of the match, so I'll count on you lads to present enough about the match for me to understand afterwards how things went and why. COYSS. Come on you strikerless Spurs.

Total knobhead
And given the way our back four played vs Leeds, perhaps we should forgo the IV VI nulla in favor of a 3-7-0. lol.
Total knobhead
Probab;y not true, but it was reported that Daniel will fly ou to Brazil today. No club or player was mentioned but...
blackcatladder
"incidently a draw between Arsenal and Liverpool will do us fine," wrote Frank.

That's for sure, Frank. A draw between Farce 'n all and the Poo would be perfect, especially one filled with yellow and red cards and lots of suspensions. Let's hope for a couple of own goals and fumbles by GKs and missed penalties, too, just to lower morale for those two clubs.

But focusing on our club, we have only a day and a half to bring in a striker. Let's hope that DL pulls off on of those 11th hour moves. God knows I'll flag in energy writing on here about playing our matches with no forwards. (And you lot will be begging for me to seek therapy so as to stop. But I'll be right, we face an absurdity as things stand now.)

Total knobhead
How about a team for tonight: Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, BAE, Parker, Dembele, Lennon. Holtby, Bale, Defoe.
Yido T
No Gallas please not against Holt
Yido T
I'll second that team Yido T, an I totally agree with Gallas, he should now be very much a last resort (our Blackpool).
Frank
If AVB follows the tendencies he's shown so far as manager, he'll ease Holtby into the team and we won't see him today unless it's for a few minutes as a late substitutes. More likely to see Hudd than Holtby.
Total knobhead
After about four or five matches, we'll start seeing lots of Holtby. Of course, AVB might surprise and bring the new lad in quickly, but that's not been his managerial style to date. Slow and easy to easy players into playing time. No quick plunges onto the turf.
Total knobhead
Frank- it's the blood spinning technique....blood draining might have an adverse effect!...;)
shedboy2
I think we'll start with Holtby on the bench....Dempsey behind Defoe. what we don't want is to need to score and Defoe not lasting...I also don't like the look of demebele and Parker together...lacks the dominance of the Sandro partnership to push the oppo back...also doesn't have many goals in it....so if we're chasing the game I'd expect to see Holtby on for Parker...closing it out Holtby for Defoe...
shedboy2
Hundred-stone's agent has confirmed that a meeting is scheduled to take place regards to his possible move to Fulham at Burger King, once they can get a table.
spu 4 life
''6 Double WHOPPER's with Cheese, extra fries and large diet coke'' Over here love, Tommy your meals ready.
spu 4 life
When Arry Recrapp speaks does anyone listen; Same old shi7 different sign over the door, to quote; "We lose Ryan Nelsen now and I haven't got a replacement. We are desperately short. The chairman is dealing with it (Samba deal) I don't know where we are at with it. He (Tony Fernandes) asked me about a week ago if I would be interested if he could get me Samba and I said 'of course, he is a fantastic competitor'."
spu 4 life
Panic Buys Panic buys...what panic phuckin buys!!! Why is everyone acting like this hasn’t been an issue for the last 4 bloody years. You want to talk about panic buys, Dempsey was a panic buy!! We clearly missed out on our 1st 2nd and 3rd choice options so it was an 11th hour transfer. Jeeez i understand where people are coming from i.e. rather have nobody than someone like Hooper, but lets not pretend that we should have Signed a quality no9 last summer, and as we didn’t the First week in January should have been nailed on FFS. First of all there was a big uproar when ADE went to the ACON (WE ALL KNEW HE WAS FFS!!), now Defoe’s treading water and still nothing....oh yeah that’s right we will just wait till summer!! What a Joke.
hudderspur
Play Dawson.
TopSpur13
Dempsey was not a panic buy. He was the best fit that was affordable and available at the time. He is a versatile player who scores and sets up goals. Regardless of whether he is a number 9, number 10 or an AMF, he contributes. Last 12 appearances, 6 goals and 4 assists. That's pretty good for any player. He took a while to settle, but settle he has. We couldn't sign a quality number 9 last January because there was no agreement between what Harry wanted and what Levy would stump for. Saha was the highest up on Harry's list that Levy would say ok to. The year prior Harry's comment was, there is nothing out there better than what we have. Suarez was too like VDV for his scout's liking. I do think that AVB knows what he wants and will not just settle, so it'll be who he wants to take us forward, now and in the future. COYS
peterballb
hudderspur...if you can call 31st of August the summer! wow that would be a good time to get a player wouldn't it....no pre-season, the south americans in the middle of their seasons, ideal....no point rushing in now...you couldn't make it up....
shedboy2
The Ginger tw@ on TS has just revealed as pure speculation, a report that David Villa will be going to Spurs & Barcelona will get cash & first refusal on Gareth Bale.

Either total 80ll0cks or the coup of the window if it happens.

Spuds-U-Like
agree Daws tonight....not Gallas....surely QPR or Villa want him? Kaboul can't be too far away now?
shedboy2
Just heard the Villa story, sounds like total BS but more likley than Damioa or anyone.
hudderspur
How will barca having first refusal on Bale pay Villa's weekly wages? And what of our much vaunted partnership deal with Real Madrid which delayed the Modric deal so much?
Slurms McKenzie
Gallas to Aston Villa makes a whole lot of sense right now Shedboy2!
Slurms McKenzie
Walker, Dawson, Verts, BAE (fingers crossed those two figure out how to play together) Lloris in goal. Parker, Demble, Bale, Lennon, Dempsey and Defoe, Holtby on the bench, we really don't have that many other options. Based on the Leeds game its a toss up between Noughton and BAE for LB!
Slurms McKenzie
Bad news Togo 1 nil up1
Mickeys1969
"what of our much vaunted partnership deal with Real Madrid...?" Precisely why it's probably total crap Slurms.

But if it isn't.........

Spuds-U-Like
If we have a so called "partnership" with Real Madrid, then surely we should be taking Callejon from them (or Ronaldo...teehee), but of course that's not gonna happen cos its all BS. I hope Togo lose tonight because we are desperate for a striker to actually Play, and not have all this speculation and anxiety surrounding a striker that will play. Lest we forget...in our last 3 games we have scored a grand total of 2 goals :s Pretty pathetic really...anyways I would like to have Ade back asap, im a little concerned for Defoe tonight and hope he doesn't get injured. If he can actually put in a shift today he will probably score, but im not holding my breath. I reckon we will panic and lose 2-0 today. I was at the leeds game and the defence was shocking! Need a drastic improvement on that today! COYS
TaxiforMaicon
Come on Togo!
Slurms McKenzie
I'dmight believe a loan deal to get the lad some playing time but I think its just a case of some tool doing basic maths, i.e. "Spurs need a striker, Barca have a striker that isn't really playing, Spurs have Bale, I think Barca would like to have Bale"(ideally read that in a moronic voice) mix that all together and you get hudderspurs rumour!
Slurms McKenzie
How blady gullable are you guys believing and even listening to that ginger b3ll3nd! Its obvious he is trying to wind up Arsenal fans as Wenger said Barca dont want to sell so Ginger has made a bull rumour up! U can tell its silly season! If we are to get a striker it be Negrado (sure that the spelling) They willing to sell and he seems in right price range....other than that dont be getting ur hopes up! COYMFS!!! going for 3-0 win tonight and our season back on track
JattYid
Really facking hope harry gets his finger or hand caught when winding his car window up 2moro, wheeler dealer is going to take QPR to the cleaners too....facking 12.5mil for Samba! wtf!!
JattYid
Such a chance to pull further away from either the Scum or Poo. Or both! High tempo from the off needed with Bale and Lennon staying wide.
Love totty
Apparently Damiao has just been spotted at Heathrow..
TornadoYid
Win to Spurs. Draw to Poo and Farce 'n all. Good day at the office. Show your creativity, AVB. Show us what you can do tactically with this paucity of strikers. Make us proud of you. COYSS. Come on you striker-less Spurs.
Total knobhead
Hudderspur, your rant is justified you have said what we all feel and have said many times over a proper No 9 needed. Let's get the 3pts tonight then over to ''Levy Time'' As i have said before he may still pull a rabbit from the magic hat, as long as the little fluffy ba$7ard can score goals, lovely jubbly.
spu 4 life
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spu 4 life
we don't sign who we want, we don't sign who we wannnttttt, we are tottenham, we don't sign who we want,
spu 4 life
hahahahq big c , lmao.
noone
I'd love a late swoop for Roberto Soldado. Valencia are friggin' skint.
Bernio Villas-Spuras
Just seen the team...look at all the top strikers on the bench.Scary. If we go 1-0 up we've got great defensive options to park the bus!!!!!!!!!!!
wentworth
Tottenham: Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Assou-Ekotto, Dembele, Parker, Lennon, Bale, Dempsey, Defoe Subs: Friedel, Naughton, Gallas, Caulker, Holtby, Livermore, Sigurdsson
Love totty
Thats the 11 i would have picked!!!
woodyn17
Happy with that team, although Vertonghen and Ekotto simply MUST improve after the Leeds debacle. We should win this if Defoe turns up. If he doesnt then we could struggle. COYS
HuddersfieldYiddo
Hudd not in the squad.....off to Fulham then. That of course means we're signing either Diame or Wanymama :-)
muttley
Yeah Bernio - A late swoop for Soldado & i'd arrive in my boxer shorts. I think Only a Defoe broken leg would scare us into the market though - Not that id wish that upon anyone let alone JD.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Looking forward to seeing Holtby in action! Hope he gets on!
HuddersfieldYiddo
Why is everyone so keen on Ade rushing back... He has been Pony . Good luck tonight , 1-3 Bale, Defoe, Dembele.
SpurON
Loved Vertonghen when he first arrived, but he was plain lazy against Leeds for their second goal. He really has to start tracking back quicker. Realistically when McCormack cut inside to go past Caulker, Vertonghen should have been there to tackle. He was nowhere near unfortunately. Hopefully it's something he's learning the hard way and it's not just a flaw with his game.
Bernio Villas-Spuras
Any links would be muchly appreciated amigos.
Bernio Villas-Spuras
Bernio Villas-Spuras go to Lshunter there are loads of links on that site.
chrishove123
http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/index.html http://www.frombar.tv/ good luck finding a stream
spurs-stelios
wow lots of attacking options on the bench...lol. WTF thats the worst i've seen the bench. what happens if Defoe gets nailed early on? Disgrace
ledgespur
4th placed EPL team has no striker on the bench, tut, tut, tut Levy...
Fanman
vertonghen had been ill, perhaps he wasn't 100% against leeds. based on his exemplary performances to date I would give the lad the benefit of the doubt
Guernman
http://www.wiziwig.tv/broadcast.php?matchid=183916&part=sports
ledgespur
ledgespur, exactly.
Fanman
4th placed EPL team has only half a striker on the pitch as well
Guernman
@Guerman....EXACTLY, people forget that and the fact we have been playing him out of position all year too. He has been a cracking player for us this year. Fine one bad game in the cup, big deal. Guy is first class.
ledgespur
20th placed team had 2 keepers on the bench the other day. I swear I have seen that somewhere before. COYS
peterballb
ledge, if Defoe goes down early on, eith Sigurdsson comes in behind Dempsey or Holtby does. Not the end of the world and would probably create more scoring chances. It would also leave AVB and Levy with no choice but to fill the void. Just sign Son and Diame at the very least. These are young players who will both likely appreciate and could well be part of the future of our club. Wages are a non-issue as it clears up in the summer when some players are out of contract. COYS
peterballb
bigC, of course he's scoring. Guardiola wnts him and Falcao next season. Good luck to Liverool holding on to him. COYS
peterballb
Fanman there is a simple reason why there is no striker on the bench, we ain't fecking got one. But AVB says "we are quite happy with the squad, I don't envisage us signing a striker in this window etc.etc." you just couldn't make it up, we are obviously trying to avoid finishing 4th, it could be expensive getting involved in this CL lark, better in 6th, a bloody sight cheaper, sell Bale and Sandro, in the summer, balance sheet superb, jobs a good un..
Frank
Well Frank, if they do it that way then we will be approaching the stadium issue from the same perspective as Arsenal. Sell players to start the stadium project financing. They have said they won't so, if we wind up with 75M I can only expect that that moey would be re-invested. And if all that were the case, why not go in for Son, Wilian and others now to get CL or at least get bodies in so you don't need to buy later. COYS
peterballb
Is anyone watching the game on YES? I can't get it to work since he switched it sopcast to torrentstream.
OneCentRob
We look terrible
philbill
We're posing no attacking threat at all. It's almost embarrassing. Can ENIC be so blind?
SpuriousLife
streams not working! dafuq's going on! and they've scored... ***** it
rahn DMC
tottenham hotSTOKE
spurs-stelios
***** sake
finglasyid
And the collapse begins... We've been awful.
Fanman
Doesn't look like any of them have turned up again, we are allowing them to totally dominate the game.
TQ2Spurs
Ooh dear. Norwich to park the bus. We have no way through again. Come on lads
In-spurs-ational
We have done nothing for 35 minutes, worse display against a poor Norwich team who can't score.. guess we all knew they would against us though
philbill
does anyone know a good stream ? sori to ask on here , but i am disabled and cant afford sky or live lol.
jamesspur1
So much for 4th place, we've been awful since United. Norwich were always gonna score.
Fanman
we should change our name to harry ramsdens fc as we are getting battered!!!!
woodyn17
Parker is not the player he once was, outpaced by Snodgrass for the goal, keep misplacing pass. Sigh.
what_sux
The amazing thing is here it looks as though Norwich have more players than us... its that bad
philbill
We are gonna lose badly. Oh well, at least we can't get relegated. We just after xmas.
Fanman
centre midfield is non existent and the rest of the team aren't much better, need to see this out to half time and have an attitude adjustment come the second half..
flakey yid
Here's the stream: http://www.coolsport.tv/stream14.html
Moscovite
big c - we were attacking. Dempsey couldn't even control a simple pass and 5 seconds later the ball is in our net. Agree though, we only have the team fighting again. We're also missing Sandro like crazy. Parker is full of commitment but has half the power of the big man.
muttley
The problem wasn't Harry lol, we're just sh7t in the second half of the season. We're making them look great.
Fanman
moscovite - cheers mate i found another one in the end...
rahn DMC
Painful to watch this. Looks like our second half of the season collapse is well on the way. At least Levy will be happy as without CL next season he ha a good excuse to cah in on Bale and others and not worry about buying anybody tomorrow or in the summer either. Pathetic. Totally pathetic.
SpuriousLife
Defoe could have finish that..
what_sux
We look like we don't know what to do. Just signing a striker isn't going to hep us. Oh for Sandro!
Fanman
CLINICAL DEFOE WELL DONE
spurs-stelios
Big surprise, Defoe's shot is saved.
Fanman
At least might cheer us up. http://thearsenalkid.info/commentary/should-we-be-worried-that-tottenham-are-getting-the-quality-players/?
In-spurs-ational
Central midfield offering nothing going forward and haven't been for numerous games now
ParkLaneBB
Anyone who watched the game against Norwich at the Lane can probably attest to the fact that it was one of the worst performances we have had. Utterly useless, we looked. Hughton knows Spurs wel and is a good coach. We need to throw things at him that he is not expecting. Get Defoe off. Get Holtby on. Bale up top. Dempsey on the left. Put the game on Gareth's shoulders. COYS
peterballb
I can't believe that we're having another second half of the season collapse. We look clueless.
Fanman
6th here we come. Sad thing is us fans all saw this coming throughout Jan
mattspurs1982
Norwich have 1 point in their last 6 games and they are completely outclassing us.... collapse again for 2nd part of the year? This is not the same team of a few weeks ago something is missing or wrong
philbill
AVB tactics are??
MrSpurs
The major reason why our central midfield is nothing because Parker is so far away from the player he once was, causing Dembele to get shut down, he has to beat so many defenders alone.
what_sux
Centre-midfield just looks clueless, we are not the same team without Sandro.
Fanman
tophobounty, that donkey has 6 goals and 4 assists in his last 12 appearances. Dempsey is not the issue. Someone to work with him is. COYS
peterballb
fckn hell what a pathetic performance. at the very least i would expect us to be out passing Norwich.
asherthesmasher
we are not playing well. Defoe shot straight at their keeper. It is a worry.
Madaboutspurs
Why are we so appalling with Norwich for the second year in a row? Seriously, each time we play them we are a complete and utter *****e.
Moscovite
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!
spurs-stelios
We look tired and clueless, where is the team from the Christmas period?
Fanman
Calm down lads - 45 still to play. We can't get any worse!!!! The knee jerk reactions of some people!! Remember Norwich lost to Luton and will be playing to prove a point. We lost to leeds with 5 changes from that line up. Calm the feck down!!!
woodyn17
Awful, absolutely awful.
Fanman
sheesh, can we play as badly as that really?............ parker looks well off the pace of the game, and WE NEED A STRIKER LEVY................
micky58
MrSpurs, AVB's tactics are obvious. Make the team look crap. Get Levy to spend
In-spurs-ational
Norwich midfield of 3 is over running parker and dembele, when they attack everyone moves forward, when we attack everyone goes walk about, lennon standing out painting the line is of no good what so ever, the only time he comes inside, is pass finds defoe shot saved, RVP scored no challenge from walker, holt knocks it back no challenge from walker, the guy wants a rocket up his arse and told to challenge at is back post, not look at the stars.
spu 4 life
#Norawich have out classed us and out battled us. We look likt a group of strangers. What has happened since the United game?
Fanman
Absolutely shocking first half!!!!!!!!!!!! Defoe not even in the game get him off now and lets get another striker on!!! Oh hang on...
TornadoYid
We should have the wind to our advantage in the second half. Maybe we could have the advantage of a better showing as well. That would be nice
In-spurs-ational
take Defoe off. get Dempsey up top and bring on Holtby. We can't get any worse. Levy you better get a striker in because i am starting to believe all the pessimists that we won't qualify for the CL after watched that dross. Parker and Dembele have been awfull BTW. That's why we can't get a foothold in the game.
asherthesmasher
My mate at work reckons Parker is better than Sandro!, and yes I did slap him!
LongTimeSpursFan64
second half of the season collapse has started.
Fanman
1# we miss sandro

2# our fullbacks are leaving too much space

3# They want it more

Totally inept display, just goes to show how much we struggle when teams are in our faces.
spurfect one
What a cr*p game of football. Norwich playing long-ball, chase, harry, kick, foul game and we are doing the long-ball without the kick, chase and harry. How we miss Sandro. Th whole team looks like it doesn't want to be there. Where are the leaders? Holtby must be wondering what he has let himself in for. Hope AVB's genius will shine through in the second half.
Harry-Kari
Dempsey has been dreadful. We need a striker. I can't beleive this is happening again, I feel totally sick.
Fanman
I hope he is giving them a right good rollicking, our play has been pathetic at best.
TQ2Spurs
There is no easy away game. AVB wll change things up. The lads know we need 3 points. 45 minutes is lots of time. It is clear we need more players on the pitch that can hold on to the ball and we need our fullbacks overlapping and working in concert with our wingers. Oh and a striker who can get on the end of crosses would be really welcome too. Long way from over. Deep breath everyone. COYS
peterballb
We're being outmuscled and outfought.Awful first half performance.One attempt on goal.AVB says we don't need a striker...he's the only one connected with Spurs who thinks that.We are impotent up front.
wentworth
Please take Dempsey off. Such a poor player.
01tottenham
Norwich are playing just like Leeds against us. No way we'll get 4th on this form. Everton 2-0 up. Liverpool coming back into it, I can't believe how poor we've become in two weeks.
Fanman
are problem comes from not moving the ball around quicker, we put ourselves under pressure, with this slow standing still build up, Sandro held one position, Parker for al his hard work runs around like a headless chicken, play the holding role and phucking pick the ball up and move it forwards or sideways, stay in one position. aka how sandro did.
spu 4 life
peterballb, with you. Keep the faith. We can do this. Always look on the bright side of life. Please just score guys
In-spurs-ational
That Defoe chance, 9/10 of all strikers would have scored, it's pity Defoe in the 1/10 category
what_sux
Don't think I'm going to watch the second half.
Fanman
Good call Asher. We're getting overrun in midfield. No foothold, no possession no chance. Get Defoe off and Holtby on. Play 4-5-1 with Dempsey as the striker.
SpuriousLife
We rely too much on two wingers to create our goal scoring chances, stop them playing or they have an off day and we a fecked.
TQ2Spurs
How many chances does Defoe need to score, and as for Dempsey... We need a feckin striker. Oh and bye, bye Bale in the summer.
Fanman
when you are pressured up high you need someone in the middle who can accept, control and distribute the ball. Dempsey is not good at that and Defoe is woeful. They both need the ball played to their feet. Get Dempsey out left, Bale up top and Holtby in behind. Put Defoe on a merry-go-round and see if that fixes what ails him. COYS
peterballb
Get Holtby on ffs I'm sure he's itching to get on!
LongTimeSpursFan64
We are losing the midfield battle, that's where the main problem is. Parker is past it and Lennon and Bale are not getting any space to run into. Hughton has done is job over to you AVB
ItalianYiddo
Peter - we need to score at least one goal so you want to take our striker off, Replace him with a winger, Put pressure on our new signing by throwing him into this cr@p in his first game and finally play Dempsey out of position wide left... Sounds like desperation!
MrSpurs
It's the beginning of another predictable second half of a season collapse. In fact it started when we lost to Leeds.
Moscovite
peterballb, i don't see us getting three points. We don't look to have it in us today. They are first to everything. I am usually optimistic but this does not look the the team we are used to seeing. whats with all the long fecking balls?
asherthesmasher
It's gonna be Liverpool who will take the fourth spot.
Moscovite
What hurts the most is not just being outfought by Norwich but being outplayed
ItalianYiddo
chelsea 1-0
ledleygomez
best stream with ok commentry is... http://www.viplivesports.eu/football/118357/1/norwich-city-vs-tottenham-hotspur-live-stream-online.html
micky58
I blame Levy btw. No investment in strikers, I don't think that we can blame AVB. He only has donkeys up-front to work with.
Fanman
Lets just hope Mr Holtby can come on an inspire some creativity cos we look clueless at best.
spurs-stelios
HT ARSENAL O L'POOL 1; EVERTON 2 WBA 0; LATEST FULHAM 1-0 WET SPAM; 2-0 SOTON; READING 0-0CHELSKI
spu 4 life
Moscovite, maybe. The goons look a bit short, like us. I think that Everton will get 4th.
Fanman
We also lost to Leeds does that mean Neil Warnock done a job over AVB as well!!
MrSpurs
CHELSKI 1-0
spu 4 life
TQ2Spurs and that is exactly why we need a partnership of 2 players that can work together to work the middle of the pitch. When defences cannot cheat wide, they really cannot contain our wingers. We allow them to by not dominating the middle of the park. A game like this is where a motivated Adebayor ould be a huge help, but not playing off of Defoe. Last season, VDV and Adebayor would have had them cheating to the middle which is just what our wingers need. COYS
peterballb
Terry Gibson, our old midget striker..lol commentating
micky58
TOGO game finshed 1-1
spu 4 life
it's not like liverpool have looked much sharper since getting Sturridge early in the window...oh wait. Our Mid pairing look awful sell parker asap or he'll just drain the cash....
shedboy2
feel sorry for AVB, these players are not up for the fight
E17YID
feel sorry for AVB, these players are not up for the fight
E17YID
we make bassong look world class, says it all
spu 4 life
always has to take the extra touch defoe, he is useless
E17YID
always has to take the extra touch defoe, he is useless
E17YID
MrSpurs, Defoe is a striker in name only. 1 goal in 8 is hardly where I would be pinning my hopes. This is not a one year or 6 month phenomena, he has been like this for a decade. He is, at best, an impact sub. He has not beaten anyone for pace all year. He is also injured and would have been nowhere near my starting lineup. Bale does well with his head. Walker, Lennon, BAE and Dempsey can all throw in crosses. Holtby in behind can hopefully cobble something together between Dembele and Bale allowing a real player with pace to get in on goal. Desperate? No. It's but one game. Convinced that Defoe is Defoe, absolutely. If he does not score, he is often the worst player on the pitch. COYS
peterballb
when we move the ball at pace we look much better
spu 4 life
yeah i know ; 2-1 now
spu 4 life
Yeah but Peter, if teams play 451 against us they have three in the middle and invariably win more ball and retain possession better.
TQ2Spurs
AVB's tactics need to improve this man is suppose to have studied the game and know his stuff, when were losing to the likes of Norwich the answer can't be we need to buy buy buy its Norwich for ***** sake!!
MrSpurs
Watching game now...Norwich are working ther socks off.
wentworth
why does he play dempsey a forward but behind the midfield
E17YID
why does he play dempsey a forward but behind the midfield
E17YID
GOAL and ASSIST FROM HOLTBY all 3pts jobs a good 'n'
spu 4 life
how many steps down is Dempsey for VDV if VDV is 10/10
spurs-stelios
Peter - if Defoe is as bad as you make out why has neither AVB or Levy addressed the problem?
MrSpurs
Does our team not know Defoe is two foot four
In-spurs-ational
MrSpurs, how can you blame AVB. it is not his fault we had all the surplus players he needs to get rid before he brings in .... Levy is screwing him at mo, AVB is doing the best he can with this crap ... I thought this was a transitional season?? the players are not up for the fight and are playing poor, dempsey and defoe are not strikers who are in teh box causing us to have no outlet Walker can ***** off ... seriously over rated imo ,,, Knaughton should of played ....
E17YID
MrSpurs, how can you blame AVB. it is not his fault we had all the surplus players he needs to get rid before he brings in .... Levy is screwing him at mo, AVB is doing the best he can with this crap ... I thought this was a transitional season?? the players are not up for the fight and are playing poor, dempsey and defoe are not strikers who are in teh box causing us to have no outlet Walker can ***** off ... seriously over rated imo ,,, Knaughton should of played ....
E17YID
can we loan dempsey back to fulham b4 the window shuts , he is ****
micky58
tophobounty, he is the only one scoring and setting goals up for the last month or so, but yeah, take him off. The fabulous Defoe is about to demonstrate how he can do better than Crouch's one in twenty-one. The problem isn't Dempsey. He is scoring, he is providing chances to others. What is Defoe doing? No really, what is Defoe doing? COYS
peterballb
arse 0- 2 pool
ledleygomez
taxi for dempsey
spu 4 life
AVB, needs to make a change wtf is defoe on cant we sell him by 11pm Thursday?
E17YID
AVB, needs to make a change wtf is defoe on cant we sell him by 11pm Thursday?
E17YID
If only Dawson can stop blasting the ball to opponents, if only...
what_sux
Defoe shoots! You know the rest
In-spurs-ational
25m for leandro bargain on what we have
spu 4 life
OH FFS JD
LongTimeSpursFan64
get holtby on
craig spur
As the football commentators would say, Defoe is deadly in front of goal, and when he pulls the trigger, the ball is only going to end up in 1 place ;-)
Madaboutspurs
so so poor, Norwich are set up to defend men behind the ball ... we cant break them down
E17YID
so so poor, Norwich are set up to defend men behind the ball ... we cant break them down
E17YID
Walker u TIT
LongTimeSpursFan64
Madaboutspurs - That's our clinical striker for you mate :-)
what_sux
pool 2-0 le scum
spu 4 life
why is everyone laying into dempsey, defoe missed the best chance of the game. in these conditions we need to be getting crosses into the box and defoe aint going to get on the end of them. the conditions sure suit norwich and holt though
Guernman
MrSpurs, to my own vexation believe that there are players that have been identified as part of an overll plan and they are holding out for them. That Leandro's name is back in the press blows my mind. Fryers always remained a target. Moutinho seems to be as well. Defoe is here. AVB is probably happy with Adebayor as the other striker. His preferred style of play is not one that would ever suit Defoe which is why he had to go back to 4-4-2. Same smoke and mirrors every year by Defoe. Imact sub at best. COYS
peterballb
were just constantly going backwards !
E17YID
were just constantly going backwards !
E17YID
Arse 2 2 liv
LongTimeSpursFan64
Guernman, if Defoe stayed in the box maybe Deofe is S.h.i.t
E17YID
Guernman, if Defoe stayed in the box maybe Deofe is S.h.i.t
E17YID
Guernman, if Defoe stayed in the box maybe Deofe is S.h.i.t
E17YID
Guernman, if Defoe stayed in the box maybe Deofe is S.h.i.t
E17YID
We've got no attacking threat so if we to a goal down we're stuffed. I can't watch anymore. Levy tomorrow is your last chance to address our obvious and blatant problems. If you don't then you're a bigger knob than I thought.
SpuriousLife
arse 2-2
ParkLaneBB
best move all night Dempsey off!
E17YID
best move all night Dempsey off!
E17YID
We don't need a striker Levy, go back to bed mate.
Bernio Villas-Spuras
Be nice if some of our players showed as much passion as Holt!
TQ2Spurs
They are just content to sit and hit us on the break now, they now we won't score.
Fanman
done more thank clint already
spurs-stelios
30 seconds and holtby shows is class and awareness
spu 4 life
spu4 life, beat me to it!
LongTimeSpursFan64
Gotta say Holtby has done more in two minutes than Dempsey did in 70!! lol
woodyn17
Got to love the post it notes. Boy looks good though (well he's improved the team in only a minute h
In-spurs-ational
good ball in the box where is defoe behind Bale.
E17YID
good ball in the box where is defoe behind Bale.
E17YID
go on my son show these phuckers how to play football
spu 4 life
In the last 12 games, we have scored 23 goals. Clint has 6 and has set up another 4, and that's who people want to run out of town. Makes sense to me. Send Lennon packing as well. We don't need players who are producing. Just kee all the ones that will tell you time and again how great they are. COYS
peterballb
E17YID. You ever in the Queens Arms, Orford Road for games? Good Spurs pub.
ParkLaneBB
cant see us scoring, I am going to work it is 8.18 am here rather that than watch this crap
E17YID
cant see us scoring, I am going to work it is 8.18 am here rather that than watch this crap
E17YID
Park, i am in Australia mate ... Orford road is other side I lived down by the lea when back home near the crooked billet
E17YID
Park, i am in Australia mate ... Orford road is other side I lived down by the lea when back home near the crooked billet
E17YID
HOLTBY SHOULD HAVE STARTED, told you his all class weeks ago
spu 4 life
Queens Arms is good thou on corner great pub
E17YID
Queens Arms is good thou on corner great pub
E17YID
Holtby shown more passion and desire than the whole team today
what_sux
wtf, would we do without BALE BALE BALE
E17YID
wtf, would we do without BALE BALE BALE
E17YID
get in you phuckers
spu 4 life
yessssssssss
spurs-stelios
Holtby shown more passion and desire than the whole today
what_sux
bale bale bale bale bale bale
ledleygomez
Bale bale bale
In-spurs-ational
BBAAALLLEEEEEE!!!!!!!
woodyn17
From this performance, I see we do not need Defoe as striker, we can just use Bale as the striker LOL
what_sux
E17YID, snap. Did the right thing. Didn't pass to Defoe
In-spurs-ational
E17, lucky you. I'm off Forest Road just up from the Bell. And yes, Bale scores, TFFT!
ParkLaneBB
Give us space to run into and we will hurt you
ItalianYiddo
We desperately need a striker! Defoe is sh7t.
Fanman
Another good chance by Defoe goes wide..
what_sux
Defoe shoots. Oh I've said this before
In-spurs-ational
what-sux, not a bad idea Bale up front nice to see Holtby is a left footer better balance in team with Demb,Bale BAE, Vert all left footers
E17YID
what-sux, not a bad idea Bale up front nice to see Holtby is a left footer better balance in team with Demb,Bale BAE, Vert all left footers
E17YID
absolute class. Shedboy, you think Holtby looks like O'hara do you? The bot oozes class. The class of a German.
asherthesmasher
No excuses for Defoe, I am a fan of his but I think it is time for him to go
E17YID
No excuses for Defoe, I am a fan of his but I think it is time for him to go
E17YID
ParkLaneBB. trust me I wish I was in UK, London Walthamstow right now, prefer England Australia is over rated just cant afford to come home now!
E17YID
ParkLaneBB. trust me I wish I was in UK, London Walthamstow right now, prefer England Australia is over rated just cant afford to come home now!
E17YID
Siggy, should start before Dempsey, I hope this is the end for Dempsey now Holtby is here
E17YID
Siggy, should start before Dempsey, I hope this is the end for Dempsey now Holtby is here
E17YID
Go on Siggy. Give us a goal
In-spurs-ational
If only we had a finisher. Is Clive Allen still available
In-spurs-ational
we do not deserve to win at all but will take a win!!
E17YID
we do not deserve to win at all but will take a win!!
E17YID
What a save by Bunn!!! World class!!!
woodyn17
tophobounty, you opinion is noted. It does however fly in the face of the stats that seem to show if you leave him in there he will score or set one up. In a sport that is often decided by a goal, it is goals that we need. I'll have to check the stats, but Defoe must be approaching 40 shots without a goal. That is horrid. I expect Dawson would do better. Both of Dempsey's goals against ManU, there is no way in heaven Defoe scores either because he would have long given up on the play. I am not a huge fan of the American, but he is certainly doing what we bought him to do. COYS
peterballb
Siggy, is 22, not been given a proper run trust me he is better then dempsey!
E17YID
Siggy, is 22, not been given a proper run trust me he is better then dempsey!
E17YID
poor poor poor from tottenham
E17YID
poor poor poor from tottenham
E17YID
Fair result in the end
woodyn17
GUTTED... Holtby proved his worth & he should've started. Great signing but we dropped 2 VITAL points tonight. COYS
True Spurs Supporter
DEFOE SUCKS MY BALLS!!!
laughter7
E17, never been there myself and I've travelled a fair bit. You may have confirmed why.
ParkLaneBB
Apart from a moment of magic by Bale we were impotent. Viagra please Levy!
SpuriousLife
Good point Peter, being involved in nearly half our goals deserves some credit.
T.H.F.Chris
Better second half great Bale goal.But ohwe sooooooo need a STRIKER.
wentworth
NORWICH PLEASE TRY IN EVERY GAME NOT JUST AGAINST THE BIG BOYS THANK YOU
Spurs999
How is it stupid to state that Siggy needs a run out and will be better 22 yr old again 29 ... Siggy was great for swansea last season comes to spurs and it is like the do it jsut to ruin a player Dempsey Defeo both need to go ...
E17YID
How is it stupid to state that Siggy needs a run out and will be better 22 yr old again 29 ... Siggy was great for swansea last season comes to spurs and it is like the do it jsut to ruin a player Dempsey Defeo both need to go ...
E17YID
How is it stupid to state that Siggy needs a run out and will be better 22 yr old again 29 ... Siggy was great for swansea last season comes to spurs and it is like the do it jsut to ruin a player Dempsey Defeo both need to go ...
E17YID
How is it stupid to state that Siggy needs a run out and will be better 22 yr old again 29 ... Siggy was great for swansea last season comes to spurs and it is like the do it jsut to ruin a player Dempsey Defeo both need to go ...
E17YID
Steve Clark will be licking his lips at the thought of unleashing Lukaku against us, expect the same high pressing from them.
spurfect one
Surely, AVB realises by now that Defoe just doesn't cut it. Arse/Scouse result good for us. Though why I think we have chance of 4th based on that game I don't know.
ParkLaneBB
Much improved last quarter when we looked like the lads could pass to a team-mate but overall very poor. AVB must take some responsibility for the way we set out first half but he did improve things second half, although how much that was due to Norwich being knackered I don't know. On this form top 4 is not an option.
Harry-Kari
I´m afraid we will throw away another CL season. What a weak team was that one playing in Lillywhite ?? No strenght, no vibration till Holtby came in. And Defoe...seriouly, does anyone know the stats for his goal/chances ratio ?? He probably needs more than 15 chances to score a goal.
AlexSpur
Holtby proved in how many minutes why he is a class player, he was 3 moves ahead of his schalke team mates vs hannover and should have started we would have WON, what would a player like leandro or negredo be like with him, no wonder he single handedly carried germany 21's to the 21 euros
spu 4 life
top, you cant call some one a kent because they like a 2nd rated championship player he might be in his fantasy team!!!
E17YID
top, you cant call some one a kent because they like a 2nd rated championship player he might be in his fantasy team!!!
E17YID
Thank God it'll be a long time before Dempsey starts another game. Holtby is on another level to the guy.
01tottenham
holtby looks real class, fantastic first touch, little flicks etc, one of which I think set up the goal. really good buy, he's a younger fitter VDV with the same winning mentality. great goal from bale. dempsey was no worse than many out there tonight and should have had about four fouls given against him which the ref ignored. a lot of bad decisions including giving that foul against holtby's well timed tackle, defoe was far less effective than dempsey though. he was always going to struggle to impact the game but he had his chances and again blew it. we really needed these points tonight though :(
Guernman
Man for man Tottenham are better than Norwich in the same way Tottenham are better than Leeds and QPR do tactics, motivation and team selection come into this?
MrSpurs
Much better in the second half. It was a great touch from Defoe for Bale's goal, why can't he be so unselfish in the box, he has a nice pass.
Fanman
I think if I was AVB tomorrow morning I would go into Levy's office and say "Mr Levy, last night... and the past many games has shown that we need a striker... Now!" I would also ask for Son and a deep lying playmaker in the mould of Cabaye. I think then you would be looking at top four. To sign no one tomorrow would be a criminal mistake.
rahn DMC
Siggy is crap
Guyver
what was Defoe doing? oh yeah. he shoots... thats it.
noone
Man U are just about hanging on to a 2-1 lead at home against the Saints, so no easy games for anyone boys
ItalianYiddo
Rescued by Bale, what are we going to do when he goes in the summer?
Fanman
We CANNOT continue on with Defoe as our main striker. I like Dempsey, he will get goals, but frankly i think topho is right. He offered very little on the ball, but for the occasional good through ball. He isn't good enough to help this team move forward. He was the best we had. I thought Defoe should have gone off for Holtby. It won't be long before Holtby takes over, which will leave both Depsey and Siggy with bit part roles, that is really as much as they should be getting at our club. What we really need is a striker. We can control a midfield with Sandro and Dembele, but Parker gave all he had left last season and i think Holtby will help hide Parker's old legs. Parker, Dembele and Holtby, Bale Lennon and Dimiao/Negrado. That would be my dream team for the rest of the season.
asherthesmasher
And Everton had just losed the gap...they will play home against Villa (sigh....) and we´ll be away against WBA. Don´t wanna sound pessimistic, but the way things are going they will 4th and we will 5th comes sunday night.
AlexSpur
All Defoe does is shoot in the box and around the box. When Lennon puts him through, if he waits He has two players coming in for a tap in. Apart from the pass to Bale he did nothing. Dempsey was toilet, but Holtby looks the very good.
Fanman
good news, togo through to quarter finals. surely that means we have to get a striker, preferably one better than the one we got last january.
spurs-stelios
get in a striker please and sit defoe and dempsey on the bench, sands of time are running out
spu 4 life
If Levy doesn't sign a striker tomorrow to put up top with holtby so many fans will be angry. A player like Holtby deserves a world class striker to put away the chances he creates. Goodnight Dempsey. Thanks for the goals.
01tottenham
tophobounty, unlike you, I am not going to run players that are contributing goals out of town. Anyone who believes that Defoe in front of Holtby is going to work where Keane, Berba, VDV, Pav, Ade, Dempsey, Mido and every other striker that has been trotted out there with Defoe has failed, is way more of an optimist than I. Dempsey has 6 goals and 4 assists in the last 12 appearances getting a goal or an assist in 8 of those appearances while Defoe has been scoring 1 goal in 9 now as our out and out striker. I don't care how it looks. Never cared that Pav fell down all the time. What he did do is score as frequently as Defoe. What Dempsey has done over the last twelve games is contribute consistently. Exactly what I expect of Defoe. Thing is, as has been mentioned here many times, Dempsey is not a striker. COYS
peterballb
Frustrating AGAIN - why only start playing in the last 25 minutes ffs. TOO SLOW etc 1 - Poor distribution from the back again - Daws keeps bringing it out because Vertonghen is the last man (he's faster) and Daws can't choose the right pass. 2 - Scott and Dembele haven't gelled yet. 3 - Dembele and Scotty keep slowing it down and seems to have caught Huds pace. 4 - Demps can't seem to work in tight spaces. Thank ***** we bought Holtby - he's got a rocket up his arse and finds room in the tight spaces similar to Mod and VDV. Well done to Defoe for playing with an injury and for pulling their defence apart for the Bale goal, but I'd be *****ing chuffed if we brought in a new striker who can make good runs AND hold the ball up. At the moment Bale just looks too good for the current Spurs team and that's a *****ing tragedy!
DocHotspurs
Adam Le Fondre anyone? Two chances, two goals against the Chavs, perhaps he could give Defoe a few pointers :-)
TQ2Spurs
not good enough from us----only saving grace ars v liv draw and reading draw with Chelsea ,sneaky Evertonians!!!!!!!!!Holtby looks like a good buy at last a player with some passion.COYS
krafty007
wow, chelsea draw, reading come back from 2 -0 fantastic
Guernman
Reading Equalise against the Chavs!
Fanman
much better 2nd half...we pressed them....Dempsey does look ponderous and doesn't move the ball quickly enough....Defoe is defoe can't hold the ball up....Ade would be better but can he be arsed? We need a striker! Holtby, I noticed him this time and he added another demension to our game unselfish one two passing and mobility...keep it up! Parker Dembele concern me as a partnership though...
shedboy2
And apart from the Toffees all the results went our way - cheers Reading!
DocHotspurs
asherthesmasher, totally agree.
Fanman
Oh dear, you sad little pr1ck topho. I'd love Falcao and Llorente playing for us but like your parents you don't always get what you want. Yes we need better to progress, we all fekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkking know that but when a player is contributing to our goals and points tally he deserves a bit of respect.
T.H.F.Chris
the goal, ball cleared to holby who flicked it on o defoe and passed to bale, the rest was a goal from another class player Bale, it was the only time defoe assisted another team mate all night, he shoots and shoots som go in row z some are saved some not enough go in. a striker who can intergrate with his team and score goals, Leandro is the one striker who has all that 25m and we secure CL football next season, i would bet money on it.
spu 4 life
At least we know that Holtby is Quality. We can play a midfield 5 now, with one up top. Dempsey and Siggy were mistakes, although I think Siggy just might come good. The keeper made a great save from him. That was agood point after all. We were a different team in the second half, but Norwich seemed to just drop off.
Fanman
so we are winless in last 4 matches scoring "just 3 goals".I guess thats top 4 material.If this results dont convince you to go out and buy a striker nothing will. plus defoe is pants.
SilwalYid
Defensively i think we are fine, conceding so much less with lloris in goal than with friedel. I hope now that the transfer window is over that avb will keep a settled back line, maybe one of the reasons for the recent changes was to stop any player getting unhappy and wanting out in january. Holtby looks decent and looks to be the guy that can provide us that spark. Bale only did one thing today, and thankfully he did it perfectly, but he needs to improve his all round game, lennons in good form but hes played every game so far and am i the only who can see him either gettting injured or just running out of steam toward the end of the season. But we need to a striker to play instead of defoe, he was awful tonight, and has been recently. He's out of form and needs competition for him to get back to scoring, and adebayors been shocking all season so even when hes back i dont think it will boost the team. Having said that if this is to be our bad form which was gonna happen, im happy we are at least picking up points rather than losing. Big game at west brom sunday and unless we bring in a forward i can see another draw
craig spur
defoe had no problem running around tonight, it puts less strain on his injury to pass the ball to a teammate who has an open goal or thread through a pass rather than wacking the hell out of it shooting whenever and wherever, can't blame his injury on not reading crosses, being offside. injury or no injury, defoe is consistent at what he does and what he doesn't do. he will get a goal soon to keep his stats at around 1 in 9 shots. as for holtby and defoe, well holtby looks like a younger VDV to me, and VDV joins the ever growing list of players who never quite gelled with defoe
Guernman
so we are winless in last 4 matches scoring "just 3 goals".I guess thats top 4 material.If this results dont convince you to go out and buy a striker nothing will. plus defoe is pants.
SilwalYid
First half very poor, second halp much improved and a fantastic goal by Bale. I thought Holtby look very impressive after coming on. Is what AVB says about him being the new VDV actually true? I hope so... COYS
GlennAmy
Peterballb, can you tell me on average how many balls a game Clint Dempsey gives away? Holtby showed Dempsey how that number 10 role should be played. If we do sign a striker this January Dempsey will nothing more then a fringe player and that's the sad truth.
01tottenham
Peterball I Kind of feel for dempsey as his natural position is coming in from the left of midfield, at Fulham he ghosted from that position which he scored a load of goals, playing up top is so different and has many different aspects compared to what he was used to at fulham.
spurfect one
tophobounty, I would not start Dempsey over Holtby, I would start Dempsey over Defoe. I don't give a rat's petootie what the striker does for 90 minutes so long as hefinds a way to contribute to one getting in the back of the opposition goal. Defoe got an assist, so he helped out today. But, as our out and out striker, shoud he not have bagged at least one from his last 40 or so attempts. 1 goal and one assist over his last 825 minutes or so of PL action is awful. Those are Modric stats. I have no issue with one calling a player who, in the last 12 games has contributed 6 goals and 4 assists playing as a striker when he is not a striker a donkey, so long as the outrage to the one who ought to be scoring is proportional. Defoe's numbers don't even qualify for donkey status. He is out there to score. If he is not, he should not be playing. COYS
peterballb
Well, if that doesn't convince Mr.Levy, that we require a striker...then nothing will. Oh...AVB.....two centre backs on the bench, yet no TOWNSEND....!!?? Hopeing Hudd' gets sold tomorrow and a REAL striker signed. Thankyou Reading.
82spursdebut
Holtby arrived a couple of days ago and has had one training session. Can kind of understand why he didn't start. Brilliant that he came on and made an impact in an away game in a losing position.
Bernio Villas-Spuras
Guernman, no-one gels with Defoe. Partnerships are about teamwork. We're Spurs +Defoe. Joy.
Crissybwoy
For the record, over the last 13 appearances (including today's) for Dempsey, he is scoring at an average of .6 goals per 90 minutes on the pitch (while chipping in 4 assists). That is Defoe's historic average. He has been far worse than that this season. If Dempsey is the donkey, what in heck is Defoe? COYS
peterballb
Mr Levy please spend £X million on a striker so our manager can beat Leeds United!!
MrSpurs
regardless of how much we all want to slate a given player or 2 for this, the bottom line is the entire team played with no energy or urgency for the entire first half. Nobody was cutting, players were playing lazy passes. They need to take lesser opposition more seriously. Norwich played with tons of energy and got a result.
shidyid
spurfect one, that is fair. Frankly, Fulham should go in for him. They are struggling because everyone is taking Berbatov out of the game. They need a player to ghost in. Pace is wonerful, being in the right place at the right time is priceless. That's what Dempsey does. As I said, there is no way Defoe scores either of the Dempsey ManU goals because he would not have been anywhere near the play. I, like most on here have watched Defoe play hundreds of games. It's always the same. COYS
peterballb
Peterballb....hang on sir, Dempsey is not a striker and you've clearly seen he can't play the role well for us. On average how many balls a game does Dempsey give away?
01tottenham
hoping that holtby and adebayor can be a winning combo though. what a time for togo to finally get through the groups FFS. best thing that can happen is if defoe does need to sit it out for a few weeks when ade gets back
Guernman
tophobunty, no one could of predicted that Dempsey would be so poor today. At least Holtby has shown his quality. He better start against West Brom. We should offer Fulham Dempsey back. With thanks for the 6 goals, sneak Defoe off with him too.
Fanman
Havent seen the game yet, going 2 watch it on motd. btw i think levy will sign a striker tommorow...who it'll be god knows! My main worry is that we will miss a bargain in diame, isit me or does parker look like he's lost his legs and WELL past his sell by date!
SpursSnM
norwich after becchio. wouldn't mind taking a chance on him either, fantastic record this season and still very young
Guernman
dempsey and defoe for berbatov , yes please
ledleygomez
To be fair to dempsey he is not playing his natural position. Our lack of strikers is a joke. Defoe having to have injections, Dempsey playing out of position just goes to show the severity of the situation. The lack of attacking options we have on the bench is criminal for a club aspiring champions league football.
spurfect one
again shows us our reliance on bale for that one magic moment, defoe disappears second half of the season!
spursnoob
Is Dempsey a better option than Defoe up-front? With both of them on the field we have nothing in the final third.
Fanman
I never said I want him in our team, I said he deserves credit for what he's done recently, and looking at our squad we don't have much choice. It might be ***** but he's the best we've got, see what Holtby can do but other than that who could WE put in?
T.H.F.Chris
Wonderful strike from Bale. World class game-changer. We will miss him when he eventually leaves us :-( Defoe missing 2 chances , one definitely should have put away. I admire his determination to play but we need more up front. Only AVB and Levy does not see it. Less than a day left in the window. Different year, same farce :-( We salvaged a point, lucky. The other results went our way too. Holtby looks good in that few minutes. True grit. Fast and fiesty. Good buy. We need more in next 24 hrs. Just stating the obvious. Cheers to all.
Madaboutspurs
01tottenham, every shot Defoe takes is a giveaway. There are rarely rebounds if it's on goal. He either scores or the ball is going back the other way. Dempsey is not a number 10. He is one of two strikers up top in a conventional 4-4-2 or he's the guy arriving late. He is not a hold-up player. He will get on the end of crosses, can use his head and has the intelligence to be where the ball will be. Defoe hasn't a clue. He is not a team player. He is either scoring or he is limiting others in the lineup. Bale hasn't thrown any fewer crosses in to the box this year. He just doesn't have VDV and Adebayor in the middle to capitalise. Defoe has been up top most of the year (23 of 24 games he's started as the man). 3 braces. 4 goals from the remaining 21 appearances. It's just same old Defoe. COYS
peterballb
becchio..is 29 years old.
82spursdebut
tophobunty, there was no way Holtby was going to come straight in and start. Things just aren't done that way. He should start against West Brom though (I think he will). As someone said, he'll help out Parker, who was good in the 2nd half today.
Fanman
AVB and especially Levy live in constant denial that we are not desperate for a really good striker. I tell you the teams hot on our tail are just praying that the next 24 hrs will pass by with no transfer activity at our club.
Madaboutspurs
Jenas???
T.H.F.Chris
Hey topho calm down mate, it's not good for your blood pressure. Your dislike of Dempsey reminds of a mate of mine who's pet hate was John Pratt (going back a few years), he could never see why such a useless player, in his eyes, would play every week.
ItalianYiddo
Peterballb, that's fair but statistics do tell us Defoe is one of the deadliest impact subs in the premiership. If a striker does sign this Jan I personally don't think there's a role for Clint to play. I'm thankful for his goals though.
01tottenham
If Defoe just looked up when Lennon put him through, he had two players running in for a tap in, but what does he do.... SHOOT! What does he always do instead of getting his head up? SHOOT! Pass the feking ball Jermain!
Fanman
tophobunty, I agree with you, he should of started, but its history now. Calm down man.
Fanman
Surely not......
T.H.F.Chris
Fanman, here's what I can say having watched Dempsey not only in the EPL but also in the US squad. He is not fast. He is not electric. He reads the game well. If he were a hockey player you'd say he scores the garbage goals (broken plays, rebounds, just being in the right place at the right time). He just gets it done. Nothing about his goals and assists tally last year could be labeled as exquisite, but the numbers don't lie. If you play him with a player who is on the same page, you will get results, not only for Dmpsey, but for the other player too. His back heel a few weeks ago to Adebayor was brilliant. He just knew where Adebayor was going to be. Some players you just have to accept will look awful doing what they do, but they get the job done. He falls down a lot, but how many fouls does he earn? If only our free kick takers would use them to advantage. Like Adebayor, he gets corners, throws and he does track back. The problem when he is the player tucked in behind is that he, like VDV before him, comes too deep. I don't want him coming deep. He needs the ball in his feet.

One thing I have noticed this month is our passing has become very tentative. Rarely is it in anticipation of movement. Generally it's right at where the person was standing when the pass was delivered. At this level, you have to be better than that. This is where players like Parker, Walker, Dawson really hurt you. Every time they have the ball, the play becomes predictable. Now hopefull Holtby can remediate that, but it must be done in concert with a striker who is on the same page. For that reason, I would have lifted Defoe, put Dempsey out wide and put Gareth up top. The focus would then have been on Bale and Dempsey would have had time and room to create and Holtby and Bale could have worked in the middle. Teams are cheating on Bale, so put him up top, get Townsend out wide with Lennon and have Pritchard on the bench. Crosses, especially good ones, cause all sorts of issues for defences. It's the poor clearances that players like Holtby and Dembele can feast on. A proper striker would be nice too, but there are always solutions. COYS
peterballb
peterballb, agreed for the most part. Dempsey is useful when he's played in the right position. He's not a play-maker.
Fanman
01tottenham, yes, that's what the sats say about Defoe. That's what Harry got spot on. That's where he needs to be. He has started 23 out of 24. He should be nowhere near our starting XI. We need much better than him up top and if we want to play Holtby in the VDV role we need someone who can work with and off of him. That is not Defoe. No way, no how. COYS
peterballb
We won't finish top 4 playing like this. There was no fight, no motivation in the first half. I appreciate that we can't play flowing football every week but when it isn't happening I want to at least see some desire and pride, not this lazy attitude waiting for something to happen which is what appeared to be the case in the first half. Dembele even said in the press after the Leeds game that motivation is difficult when your not playing someone like United, that comment is disgraceful. Yes we improved second half against Norwich but we didn't really deserve a draw, Bales wonder goal was just another example of us relying on an individual moment when against lower league teams we should be thumping them 3-0 with a TEAM performance. I want to see Levy buy a striker as much as anyone but maybe the problem in us struggling to beat QPR, Leeds and Norwich runs deeper than just adding a striker.
MrSpurs
Fanman, no, he is not a playmaker, but he does work well with creating chances. He and Defoe have 23 assists in their careers. Only Defoe got 8 early on with West Ham and has been fairly selfish ever since. Dempsey, while playing nowhere near the same minutes or the same number of season has one just as good as Defoe in his career in England. COYS
peterballb
Mr spurs........I know who will get the bullet...if the results don't come.
82spursdebut
italian yiddo , john pratt was a legend
ledleygomez
thfc1882whl, all I can presume is if they do nothing it is because hat they want is not available and what was available was no better than what we had. I can like Son, Castaignos, Guidetti, Arnautovic and others all I want but if the coach doesn't want them or Levy won't fund it, it matters not. There are no easy fixtures. Fourth is still in our cntrol and Chelsea are still going to have a brutal fixture list. One step at a time. AVB is a good coach. He'll get out of the lads what he can. They have not looked too inspired of late, but we still have what 2 losses in 12. Could have been better, CL is still in our hands in a year most were suggesting we'd be lucky to get 6th. COYS
peterballb
Not in my mate's eyes, ledley!
ItalianYiddo
Unfair criticism of Dempsey, for me hes a decent squad player who has scored a fair few goals to be fair. His problem is that his best position is where Bale plays. He's certainly not a number 9, or 10. Same with Lennon, how was today's lack of urgency in the first half his fault? SOme of you people just like a witch hunt i swear to god. Take your blinkers off ffs. I was laying into Lennon & Dempsey erlier on in the season and ok today Clint especially didnt play well. But give the lads a break, some of the criticism on here is bordering on hatred. Save it for Wenger ffs
HuddersfieldYiddo
I think a lot of our issues will be solve if we have a decent target man upfront. Eg. If Defoe scored in the first half with that clearcut chance, we would not all be solemn faced now. So, yes, I think we are one decent striker addition away from a very good consistent team. Hours ticking away though, another window's shutting, another missed opportunity. Not that happy.
Madaboutspurs
I also think that people forget that the other eams are trying to win too. Leeds won because we made mistakes and we did not put in the effort. We got a draw today for showing up for 20 minutes or so. All there are at this time of year are hungry teams. QPR drew City - goalless. QPR need to win. City want to win. It's all the difference in the world. Perhaps we should recognize that Harry, Hughton and Warnock all set up their teams to not allow us to do what we wanted. The biggest issue, aside from the bloated squad, that AVB has to deal with is the mntality at the club. Too many players are too soft. 4 canaries on yellows. Did we run at them to get the yellow turned to red? When was the last time a player gt sent off against us? When was the last time we earned a penalty? With Bale, Lennon and Defoe, shouldn't we be getting some? Lots of questions. Away draw. Not the end of the world. Unhappy, but we took a draw from the jaws of defeat. COYS
peterballb
AVB...should get the full season.....no doubting that. But we mustn't lose site of the fact that AVB was at spurs during all the recent sales ( in and out )..at the club. Holtby in vs wba....should make a difference.......and i suggest a few more injections into defoe.....ideally with Mr Bales' blood !...lol
82spursdebut
Were still 4th, Norwich who beat Man Utd a few weeks ago were right on their game today after their cup upset. Its no disaster especially regarding the Arsenal result. Disappointing of course but some of you spilling hatred you'd think we were Aston Villa
HuddersfieldYiddo
"AVB...should get the full season" NO ***** SHERLOCK
HuddersfieldYiddo
Must admit there are some knee jerkers on here but we are all one big happy family :-) I probably won't feel as calm tomorrow this time when all we have is out of form Defoe and couldn't care less Adebayor and I'm not really a striker Dempsey
Madaboutspurs
Peter need to go check the assists stats again, Careers stats Dempsey 38, Defoe 44
Ossie
And thats not even career stats as I didnt include any assists Defoe has for England, but did include the 1 assist Dempsey has for the US team.
Ossie
I'm giving Bale MOTM just because he got us the 1 point
Madaboutspurs
What are the chances that we'll get in 2 of Damaio, Son and Negredo in the next 22 hours. lol
Madaboutspurs
Ossie, is that in all comps? Mine included only EPL. I'll check ESPN again when I get home. COYS
peterballb
Mad, I have always felt that Negredo will choose where he wants to go at the last. His club just want the dosh. Son is one ai feel could have been done weeks ago, like Holtby. I would still take a shot at Diame if Belhanda can't be had. COYS
peterballb
My bad thought you meant career stats, EPL Defoe 30 assists, Dempsey 19.
Ossie
peter, these last minute wheeling and dealing that our club is now 'famous' for really does my head in. I am the get things done pronto and cross it off the list sort of person. Levy has done good by us overall but I am unimpressed to say the least that Berbatov, that we sold 4 years ago , was never replaced.
Madaboutspurs
Avb once again says we don't need a striker! FFS man! He goes on to say that Defoe played 90mins.....yeah he was phucking ***** for 90mins aswel. Just can't even be bothered listening to it anymore. Levys hand is right up his arse. Oh wel, another half season from spurs. Btw if anyone starts with the whole £££ save ur breath. This club just has no ambition. Bye bale anyway, thanks for the goal 2nite. We will miss u.
hudderspur
Guys thanks for cheering me up. I haven't laughed this much for a while. Unfortunately I don't expect any more signings. After Holtbys performance I'm sure DL will tell AVB he doesn't need anyone else. I had this game as a draw so I'm not surprised at the result and we are still 4 points ahead of last year in same team games. Keep the faith, AVB is not a loser.
jvd
Ossie, either I added wrong (numbers aren't that high) or ESPN has different stats.

Mad, as I explained the other day, those we can afford will generally wait to see if something better comes along before accepting tbat we are as high as the interest goes. I just accept that we have to wait and will not pay beyond our valuation. Sucks to be us, but we could be Villa. COYS
peterballb
hudderspur, I read the article too. However, if you read carefully, there is nothing that AVB said referring to us not needing a striker. He said 1) Defoe played really well !! LOL!! 2) There will be nobody leaving the club. So, only the heading of the article was 'AVB said no striker needed'. Typical journalist. Got our attention though, didn't it.
Madaboutspurs
If true , all the best Hurelho Gomez. Thanks for the service
Madaboutspurs
just saw the goal again on motd and it was indeed a sublime back flick from holtby which got the move going. fantastic debut from the youngster. of course not taking away from bale's run and finish which was world class, but the flick from holtby opened up the pitch
Guernman
I was very interested by this article from the Sky Sports website "Norwich boss Chris Hughton hailed Spurs star Gareth Bale after his superb goal in the 1-1 draw at Carrow Road. Bale equalised after a magnificent solo run from inside his own half. But Norwich midfielder Alex Tettey came under fire from Spurs boss Andre Villas-Boas for his attempted tackle on Bale early in his run."Had the boy got on to Gareth's ankle it's an injury that takes him out for six months," the Portuguese said". I thought that Tettey made two bad attempts at Bale, first as stated in Bale's own half and again when Bale shoot for goal, both were not attempts to play the ball but to just bring him down luckily he was too slow to catch Bale. I feel the ref should have at least cautioned him, Any views?
Ox Yid
A couple of hours after match end, I´ve been tinkering with a thought: What if we fail to qualify for CL this season ?? I know everybody´s immediate answer will be like: We´ll lose key players and that will be the beggining of the end. Is that so ?? I mean, apart from Bale, who else would be so interesting for the Big Clubs to come hungry at WHL ?? I know there are other players we could rank as world class like Lloris and Vertonghen, but who else ?? Lennon ?? Defoe ?? Dempsey ?? Even Dembele is not exactly a world class player yet. Same reasoning might be applied to Sandro who is still building his reputation. Besides, Lloris and Verts had just arrived and I think they wouldn´t leave if the Club finishes 5th or 6th as this season was defined as a "transitional" one last summer. Maybe I sound somehow mad here, but who can say that this is not Daniel Levy´s way of thinking. Talking about Bale, he is probably already lured by playing for Real Madrid or Barcelona even if we finish 3rd...which means he will leave next summer and Daniel Levy might use part of the obscene amount of money Spurs will receive to delivery AVB the players (strikers, whatever) he needs to really challenge EPL next season. Again, maybe this is madness, but mad people sometimes come up with best solutions to some problems.
AlexSpur
There are two weaknesses in our team, ones that stand out. Scott Parker, and the striker position. Sadly, Parker's days are numbered. Holtby will help to cover up the cracks in Parker's games giving us a three man midfield. Holtby will help us to keep the ball and control midfield better and Parker will not have to run as much. It all makes a hell of a lot of sense now as to why Holtby was brought in, once Sandro got injured. Lucky for us, Sandro got injured before the window closed. Unlucky for us he got injured. Now we have the issue of a striker and i don't think we are going to get what we need in. That is not because AVB does not need a striker. Anyone who actually believes AVB does not now we need a striker is re-tarded. It's down to Levy and for whatever reason it would seem Levy does not want to part with the cash it would seem we had for Moutinho. This maw well end up being the difference between us finishing in the top four.
asherthesmasher
You're right AlexSpur, only player that will be hard to keep is Bale, Lloris is 1 of the best GK's in the world but GK's are the easiest players to hold on to.

Agree 100% about Parker asherthesmasher, his energetic style of play just doesnt mix with age. I can see him struggling to close out games and possibly picking up a few knocks. Sandro is going to be a huge miss for us.
Guyver
Guyver, last season I took my daughter to White Hart Lane because she was a Modric fan and I knew he was not going to play for Spurs again. I have the same feeling for Bale, that is, that we should enjoy as long as it takes because he will be sold next summer. To be honest, as far as I am concerned, he is a good player but not in the same league as Rooney, Messi, Iniesta or even Cristiano Ronado. If Levy´s master plan is long term and use resources from selling Bale to bring in 2 or 3 AVB wants, then not signing anyone tomorrow might make sense after all. Perhaps, tomorrow will be the final chapter for Spurs´ cleaning up season if Huddlestone, Gomes, Gallas and Bentley are all sold.
AlexSpur
Re. Parker, I'll reserve judgment for now. The guy just came back from months on sidelines with injury. Re. Levy, if he does not get a decent striker in today, and we miss out on top 4 , blame squarely on him. Not players , not AVB.
Madaboutspurs
Just a thought Guv, wonder if we could play Holtby next Dembele? I heard Holtby see's himself as a holding player in the future. I just think it's a lot to ask of a young, slight player to do, straight away. But i don't like the fact that we are carrying two passengers, Defoe and Parker.
asherthesmasher
Parker has had a few games back now and there is an obvious difference. His legs are nearly shot. Sandro will be hugely missed indeed.
asherthesmasher
AlexSpur, I wouldnt place Bale amongst the elite just yet either, but he clearly has the potential, he just needs to perform as consistently a the Ronaldo's and Rooney's. I don't think Bale will be leaving next season, but wouldnt rule it out, problem with your theory is that when we sold Modric and previously Berbatov, we didnt invest wisely imo. So it's no guarantee that we'll benefit from Bale moving on. I also get the impression AVB doesnt have as much influence over signings as he'd like.

Madaboutspurs, re Parker, when you look at world class premiership players like Viera and Keane, their career's took a nosedive when they hit their early 30's. I see no reason why the same wouldnt apply to Parker and I believe we've seen signs of that since he joined us.
Guyver
Said the same thing previously Ash, I think Dembele is strong enough defensively to play alongside a more attacking central midfielder.
Guyver
I think Holtby has said he is capable of playing the deep lying playmaker role, like Modric. Havent seen enough of him really, but he looked good today.
Guyver
asher, I thought Holtby for a not so tall guy is actually quite solidly built. Not a featerweight like Modric.
Madaboutspurs
Parker will run for us as much as his body will let him do. He still has much to offer, but perhaps the midfield has to be adjusted to get the good out of him and for the team as a whole. I will are going to struggle with just Parker and Dembele in the middle. If we can't win the midfield, we can't control a game.
asherthesmasher
Well anyway, it's all food for thought. I really do trust AVB will do the right thing. For the record, i think AVB will start playing all three, Parker, Dembele and Holtby.
asherthesmasher
Guyver, your point is right about resources from Berbatov and Modric departures not being totally reinvested. Maybe this is part of the plan if we insert "new stadium" into the equation. That is, if Spurs are really considering building a new stadium, lots of resources that could/would be destined for player acquisitions will be headed to stadium payments. This could mean Spurs being forced to field a very young team for 4 or 5 seasons after our new home is finally delivered. I mean, 3 years building plus 5 for debt amortization. At the end of the day, Bale´s sale could fund a decent striker signing and part of the stadium. I am trying to put myself in Levy´s shoes and figuring out how to balance books, football team, training facilities debt and stadium building.
AlexSpur
Negredo to Everton? Surely not
mattjbhotspur
Lloris, Alderweireld, Kaboul, Vertonghen, Pereira, Lennon, Sandro, Moutinho, Bale, Holtby, Negredo
sadaq
Madaboutspurs, it is said by previous trainers of Holtby that his small build or lack of physicality may be a problem as far as making it right to the top. His all around game wasn't an issue. I don't see anything wrong with his build, no different than VDV. What i noticed today was how many steps ahead of the game he seemed to be. You could tell he has all the technical abilities, something i think most of us already knew.
asherthesmasher
If Negrado goes to Everton i will be fuming, unless we get Dimiao.
asherthesmasher
Good acquisition, Holtby is. Now for the striker.....
Madaboutspurs
how long before we're all fighting each other like the arsenal fans? more fights in the seats tonight....not the first time this year either...let's hope we can finish fourth and really turn the pressure on them....they could struggle to sell out next year....But if we continue like we did in the first half, we're history...can't believe the management...looks like we'll have to wait till August 31st 11:59 for re-inforcements...because obviously the deals will be less tricky and the players we want will want us then and a cow will jump over the moon....
shedboy2
I think other teams would like Bale, Kaboul, Sandro, Verts, Lloris, Demebele and Benny...the ones we could lose in the summer Bale, Kaboul and Benny....Sandro could go next Jan if he comes back in form...but still we'll get a lot of money from them and that will help us build the concrete bowl...isn't that what football is about?...
shedboy2
when clubs have their own fans fighting each other they really need to take a hard look at themselves....they are not entertaining or looking after their 'customer' and once the dust settles - people will take a cold hard look at it and say 'I don't need this'....they will walk away. Especially the family members, women and older supporters...
shedboy2
not a happy bunny, do the players want CL next season. what a chance we have just like this time last season an we blew it then and it seems will just fall short again. only 1 stricker and who is more of an impact sub. if we dont buy a stricker it will haunt us, i dont care who now it has got to that point now. 20 mil and we still can get it back if we get CL, id go for long even bent at this stage.
123spurs
why are everton right next to us, what fancy household names do they have compared to our superstars. fair play to them are they are putting in a shift every game, we are a bunch of individuals at time, no passion no leaders no fighters.
123spurs
123spurs, Everton are there because they have been able to play a largely consistent starting XI. Injuries always take their toll as do playing too many games. It is a fine balance but Everton are an injury or 2 from falling. They just don't have the cover, and, if they were to get Europe next year, they would find themselves very short.

As to players leaving, there is nothing you can do about it. Modric was going to go regardless. If Bale wants to go, he will. If the price is 55M, you do what you can with 55M. That buys Son, Castaignos, Dzagoev, Howedes, Alderweirald. Those buys allow Dawson, Defoe, Dempsey to be sold. Those sales allow us to buy Belhanda which allows us to sell Parker, leaving us with 20M for whatever. The money will not go to the stadium. ENIC have been adamant that the stadium, like the training ground are separate to the squad. Berbatov money, Modric money, Carrick money was all reinvested. The problem is we used the Berbatov money to bring in Pav, then Defoe and Keane. Then we spent more to get Crouch. Loaned in Gudjohnsson, loaned Adebayor then bought him and brought in Saha. That's how we have addressed the striker issue. Keane, done less than 12 months later (should have left him and his contract with Liverpool), Crouch gone 2 years after being bought (had to pay him to leave). Defoe last season an impact sub. Saha and Gudjonsson barely used. That same money could have bought Suarez and Falcao while we were spending it on Keane and Defoe. Complete lack of long-term planning. I now hear Harry wants Bentley, Jenas and Townsend. Last week Kranjcar. You can't make this stuff up. COYS
peterballb
no matter what,after all is sais and done...we need a striker...agressive and goalscoring.....for sometime now
rovinella62spurs
fair points peter but if siggy was playing for everton im sure he would loook a lot better for them then he is for us just like when we bought pieenarr.
123spurs
fair points peter but if siggy was playing for everton im sure he would loook a lot better for them then he is for us just like when we bought pieenarr.
123spurs
i feel chelsea pain but im tired now ill be reading about it in the morning
123spurs
123spurs, players at this level cannot sit and then be expected to have touch. form, confidence etc. Sigurdsson has not played enough and has been used in different positions. He's young, he has to play. Dempsey was not playing much, looked awful and then with playing time started to make an impact in the goals and assists department. If you returned Dempsey and also sent Hudd to Fulham, I'll bet they both do well. It'll all be in the playing time for Hudd and Dempsey with Berbatov could be very interesting. Hudd's style does not suit AVB's style. Dempsey, so long as he contributes, should play. Meritocracy. COYS
peterballb
Reports are coming out of Brazil that we improved our offer for Dimiao to 20m. Obviously i don't know what they were/are holding out for, but if the reports are true, i think we will sign Dimiao tomorrow and i will be one very happy man.
asherthesmasher
asher, something has to be done. My issue with Leandro is that it is going to be about a month or two before he settles, if at all. He has not been in great form since the Olympics (though his team are playing poorly) and it is a lot of pressure on him. Fact is, with Holtby, we need a proper, up top lone striker. If it's Defoe for the next few weeks until Adebayor gets back, it could be a lot of dropped points. Better execution against Norwich and QPR and we are level with Chelsea. As I have said, Chelsea have the worst fixture list of all the top 7 teams. I think they will continue to struggle. Injuries to Liverpool or Everton could really mess them up. Arsenal just look awful defensively. City don't have enough games to keep the hordes of high priced help contented. Rooney, Van Persie, Hernandez all scoring in bunches and it's going to be tough to see anyone catching them even with their defensive blemishes. COYS
peterballb
Breaking News: Spurs upped the bid from 15 mil to 20 mil and Inter has now given the green light for the player to agree personal terms! I'm just the messenger, so don't shoot me if this piece of ITK is untrue!! COME ON YOU SPURS!!
Madaboutspurs
Oh, asher, great minds... :-)
Madaboutspurs
Mad, the article from Brazil states that Leandro's old club have a 30% share in the player. I take it that needs to be resolved. Also the article I read stated that the Internacionale president is considering the offer. Nothing about acceptance as of yet from what I can gather. COYS
peterballb
Don't think i will go to sleep now:).
asherthesmasher
They won't get a better offer than that if the bid has indeed been made. So unless they don't really want to sell, i would suggest a deal is close. As i say, if the reports are true...
asherthesmasher
last day again...hope the fax machine is working fine...shocking habit Levy has.
Madaboutspurs
Madabout have at look at this. "Tottenham's desperate attempts to secure Internacional forward Leandro Damiao have seemingly paid off, with ClicRBS reporting Spurs have been given permission to launch a whopping £19.7 million offer for the Brazil international. It's a fair rise from Tottenham's offer of £15m earlier this month and shows how keen Andre Villas-Boas is to bolster his attacking ranks. Damiao has reportedly received the green light from his club to move to the Premier League. Expect the deal to be done today."
thenuge
Sorry mad you beat me too it! I think we are the first to know :)
thenuge
3rd to know. Sorry Asherthesmasher
thenuge
I still can't make my mind up whether the Damaio stories have any substance to them. At least with Moutinho in August there were noises coming from Porto and even we made a couple of statements. The Damaio thing is all Twitter and other forms of ITK and I'm nervous it is all made up.
muttley
Well we are unbeaten in the league for so many games, but it dont feel like it to me sitting here right now!! We are a decent striker away from 4th place, so with what we have it looks like Europa league again next term........... We are far too slow in our build up play which is nullifying Lennon and Bale. Defoe looks back to his lazy,greedy self. which he plays like when he has no one to put any pressure on him for his starting place. If we cant find a decent striker to buy in this window thats fair enough, but if the management and owners think we dont need one thats Criminal!!
WestStandEnclosure
I'm hearing from my contact at Inter (in Italy not Brazil!) that the swap deal for BAE and Pereira is well underway. They expect it to be done today. I've not seen Pereira play so I don't know if this is a good bit of business or not. Anyone seen him play?
SpuriousLife
SpuriosLife - I haven't seen him play but I would rather have BAE right now instead of Pererira. No point in wasting time with that deal when our priorities should be striker, wing/inside forward competition, deep lying playmaker. Sky sports are reporting Fulham are talking to Huddlestone.
rahn DMC
IF, and that's a big if, we bought a striker surely it's better to get them in now even if it takes them time to settle....it has to be better than waiting until 31st August....anyone remember Ade? he was a striker that joined at the end of the summer transfer window so missed pre-season, was unfit so when he did play he got injured and then when he did get back on the pitch was the pace so got a red card....it'd would take him half a season to settle....whatever happened to him?
shedboy2
SpuriousLife- I read about that one yesterday....seems strange but now would be a good time I guess...It's not as though Benny has settled in under AVB...
shedboy2
muttley- re Damiao....the south american contact on Talksport yesterday hadn't heard any new rumours and there was nothing in the press there....
shedboy2
Oh come on guys stop moaning! This is Danny Boy's big day, remember! It's what he live for, the big THFC Ebay bargain basement, countdown... He doesn't know who he's going to sign quite yet, cause there's only 16 hours to go... Be patient guys, a lot can go through our DOF'S mind in those last few minutes of the window as he scans the bargain basement up date list... There still could be a bargain basement bargain to be had at the very last second! Look guys we may be out of the title race and both domestic Cups by January because Levy refused to buy AVB the striker and play maker he wanted in the summer, but show faith guys, it's only been 13 seasons, 8 coaches, 3 DOF's and over 100 players bought. I know Danny has the worst trophy per season percentage record of any THFC chairman in over half a century, has only made the CL once in 13 seasons, and has never reached an FA Cup final, but show some faith! And as for you 35,000 Spurs waiting on Danny Boys season ticket waiting list, for Christ sake stop moaning. Rome wasn't built in an ENIC day...
pelebro
This article says alot about how other clubs can play hard ball when we try to negotiate. See its not always Levy's fax machine that is on the blink! http://www.thenational.ae/sport/football/spurs-last-gasp-frustration-over-thwarted-moutinho-transfer-bid
SpursOne2
Huddlestone could be off abroad on loan?
SpursOne2
Pelebro, great stuff....keep it up.
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