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I suppose is we look on the bright side, we have cut the wage bill...

So not a single signing to dream about, but we get scant consolation that we have offloaded some high earners and given opportunities for some youngsters to develop.

I suppose we yet again fell for the ITK and media hype of spending tens of millions on players that we have only seen in You Tube clips, but did either Levy or AVB talk of big deals and spending. Based on that I suppose they were honest...




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Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Thursday January 31 2013

Time: 11:09PM

Your Comments

First to say I am SHOCKED
Madaboutspurs
I refuse to look on any bright side ox, not for now anyway. 8 transfer windows have gone by and it is the same every time. Headlines reads 'Spurs missed out on Damaio on transfer dateline day'. Sounds familiar . UNBELIEVABLE. Arrrghh !!
Madaboutspurs
And so it begins. The slow and inexorable slide into mid table mediocrity. Did they learn nothing of transfer windows past?? Maybe they will suprise us all and start playing the Barca system. Who knows what is going on in the collective minds at Spurs HQ. One thing is for sure they are not on the same page as the rest of us here.
pratts bottom
Ban Madabout for his "First"! That will cap (or begin) a terrible day for him
micyid
Levy u ******** ****
spurspanther
The Townsend deal baffles me
spurfect one
******** DISGRACEFUL
South L/Derry Spurs
It would appear AVB was not kidding when he said early January that NOBODY will be coming in. Holtby coming in earlier is just a little sweetener to placate all of us. I am truly stunned. This is worse than Saha and Nelson last year.
Madaboutspurs
******** ******** ****s
South L/Derry Spurs
Made me smile micyid, thanks, I needed that .
Madaboutspurs
As another window closes, we see Mr. Levy saving more money. Saving quite a few pounds, in the short term. A calculated risk. Dare I suggest, a short sighted policy? Champions League football would guarantee a vast increase in income. It would also greatly enhance the chances of top players like Bale staying on for the adventure.
Hotspur 1882
Levy should make a public apology to the souls of all the previous greats of our club. Once again today he has spat in the face of our tradition and shown the utter contempt he has for the fans.
SpuriousLife
Here comes the hard work now, and if it comes off then I think there will be a huge signing or three in the summer of AVB's choice.
chrishove123
spurfect one
Townsend - one less wage to pay. :0(
Hotspur 1882
Stayed up till deadline closed, because I was one of the 14% who voted positively in the poll, and thought.....this time it will be different. 1 in the morning here now and siding with the 74%
Cairnside Spur
cant say im surprised by the lack of a descent striker arriving, the midfield are going to be under pressure now to put chances on a plate or we'll be moving down the table and if that happen's i dont see any reason for bale to stay, then move another few places back..
flakey yid
yea chrishove with the sale of bale we will probably reinvest half of that on a couple of medicore players
South L/Derry Spurs
Chrishove have you learnt nothing? Don't be so fecking gullible.
SpuriousLife
Have added Fryers and Holtby to Vertonghen, Dembele, Dempsey, Sigurdsson, Lloris, Adebayor. Have extended and loaned out Pritchard. Have loaned out Townsend and Dawkins to PL teams. Jenas is gone. Gomes loaned out. Bale, Walker, Lennon, Defoe all extended. Other than that, we have done nothing. Last year we had Defoe, Adebayor and Saha up top of VDV. Now it's Sefoe, Adebayor and Dempsey up top of Holtby. Caulker is here instead of Nelsen. It's not all bad. Oh yeah, and we are currently 4th when modt suggested we'd be lucky to get 6th. And, I cannot stress this enough, Jenas is gone. COYS
peterballb
Oh before I forget about it. I can't remember who it was but they bragged about how great and utterly reliable that their ITK was, as he was a friend of our great benefactor and has been for many years. He was told of a massive Portugese signing reliably informed 100% in the bag. HEY where is this huge top signing? Just goes to show all these ITK's are really IDK's (I Don't Knows)
chrishove123
Going fishing
Little spur
We put ourselves through this every window - still waiting with my last bit of optimism that the striker is announced even at 11:30!
EASY AS_AVB
Peterballb - we'll be lower than 6th in May. Mark my words. On the upside for ENIC though as we slide down the table our balance sheet will have improved. Depends on your priorities for a football club. Personally I'm disgusted.
SpuriousLife
Might catch a striker, i mean a stripper !
Little spur
COYS. FOENIC. GOODNIGHT.
SpuriousLife
jenas does'n,t play so on the playing side that is irrelevant, defoe is badly out of form and so is ade and neither look like turning the corner any time soon
flakey yid
CL, as has been shown by our own numbers, if getting to the last 8 makes a difference of about 35M at most (there are other variables but our own numbers show that as a max). Just group stages means about 20-25M. Which player that you know that AVB wanted that guarantees CL and fits the cost and salary in to that amount? Lots of guys available, just like when Harry was here. Why didn't we do it? COYS
peterballb
Left feeling "uninspired".......but..we did recently add Fryers and Holtby.....to our large squad. I make it that we still have over 20 established premiership players. Loseing Bale to injury is the real worry to me though. We've seen him in the past, miss large parts of the season. I just hope someone doesn't "do him"...if you know what i mean. Now for saturday.....hopefully, Holtby will make his full debut.
82spursdebut
Madaboutspurs Why is everyone so shocked and surprised. You all say how straight up and honest AVB is, yet when he says no one is coming in this window you don't believe him because when it happens that way you all can't believe it. I hate to say it BUT I TOLD YOU ALL SO. I said at the very start AVB was told by Levey there was no warchest this window, he has to prove himself with what he has currently got, with a few minor tweaks here and there. IF he can do what the board want him to, THEN he will get the FINANCIAL backing and be able to get in HIS players. If we blow it next window THEN I will get damned angry with Mr. Levy as he will not give the green light for AVB to get his targets.
chrishove123
Townsend would have gave us natural width if needed,i know he would not have started games but he was the only option we have that could stay wide. Not getting players in is fustrating, leaving ourselves short in key positions is suicide!
spurfect one
SpuriousLife, your words are so marked. Yes, we could finish 7th realistically. We could also finish 3rd. COYS
peterballb
Gotta smile, Mad, being angry ain't gonna solve anything. I was hopeful of a signing but I'm just shrugging it off now. They told us not to expect anyone. If people are to take what they read as true, and some people believe everything, then we didn't intend to spend, AVB requested we try for Damiao, we put a bid in, Inter did their usual rubbish, Levy refused to pay more. Ho hum, this fella surely can never come to us now. Don't think anyone really wants him anymore. He'll probably continue to have a poor season and they'll be forced to flog him for a lot less than we offered to some spanish team. We had no back up plan because we didn't plan on getting anyone in in this period in the first place. An optimistic view would be that Levy has shown he backs his manager by actually bothering to make a bid. 17million is no pocket change for a young striker who is having an off season by all accounts.
micyid
Peterballb, you are right to say that we have strengthened the squad, but that final investment of a striker is required to make the previous investments worthwhile - How many of you would take Hooper right now lol
EASY AS_AVB
It was more fun last year when Kaka was at the Lane. Why did we not sign him?
dannylane
Chrishove you are so deluded that I actually feel sorry for you. We won't spend more than we raise through player sales in any window until ENIC leave. Stop believing the **** you've been fed by ENIC and their cronies. Trust what you see each transfer window.
SpuriousLife
i dont know who avb wanted but id like to think there was a list of players and they weren't scratching around hoping damiao would become available at the last min, which is what it looks like..
flakey yid
Saying that the townsend deal baffles me too. Maybe we are planning on using holtby to cover the wings. From the 20 min cameo the other night he certainly looks like an upgrade on anyone who moved today. Hopefully he'll continue to impress
micyid
do you think JD is off form or just mad he has no decent strike partner?? i'm not i'm not surprised the window went like this as its true to form...if we make champions league and still don't lash some cash then i'm not sure what to think..dumbfounded 3 million extra for Damiao wasn't a done deal..
andyraa
The last quality striker we bought was Berbatov years and years ago and we sold him for £20 million profit. Since then our net spend has been among the LOWEST in the whole of the Premier League. We are being short changed, duped and I feel vaguely interfered with. Yes we are well run, but so is my accountant's and I am struggling to make a distinction between the two, we are becoming as detached and soulless. [Note to self - don't go into the kitchen, that's where the knives are]
whiteheart
Spurfect one, I can only presume that Dempsey or Sigurdsson will play the wings when and if Bale and Lennon cannot. I suspect AVB will be rotating 16-18 players the rest of the way unless injuries become a further issue. COYS
peterballb
Sad thing is I bet Ox had this pre-written, it was kind of obvious.
Tottenham Hotcore
spurfect, scares me too. I don't know why AVB doesn't rate him.
dannylane
Is this really our squad? GK: Lloris, Friedel RB: Walker, Naughton CB: Dawson, Vertonghen, Caulker, Gallas, Kaboul (inj) LB: BAE RM: Lennon CM: Dembele, Parker, THud, Livermore, Carroll LM: Bale CAM: Holtby, Dempsey, Siggurdsson STR: Defoe, Adebayor
Tottenham Hotcore
Whiteheart, Transfermarkt and other such sites that track sales and buys would disagree with that statement. Other than last season, we have had a net spend every year since the mid 90's. cOYS
peterballb
We have now turned into Arsenal. Levy you ******** ****. Biggest let down.
01tottenham
This transfer window's outcome really gives me the poo because we have the right ingredients to really push on strongly for that last 2 CL spot. The other teams are faltering and we reallycould have grabbed it by the jugular and power on the next 4 months. I really thought common sense will prevail at Levy's office and a striker would be brought in as reinforcement. I really thought so. Now instead, it will be a hard slog with Chelsea, Arsenal , Liverpool , Everton, West brom for the last 2 spots. Painful.
Madaboutspurs
No depth, at all. I'm dreading the second half of the season.
Tottenham Hotcore
We are just Lewis and Levys real estate toy. Like the great Keith Burkinshaw once said, ( there used to be a football club back there ).
whitehartmart
Townsend was not playing. Why would that change now? Dempsey and Sigurdsson will still get in the game before him. I expect he won't play at QPR either. I'd have rather seen him go to Norwich or Reading if I'm honest. Pritchard and the "next Bale" are the real prospects. I have never really been impressed witb Andros. COYS
peterballb
I feel AVB and co' are playing to the prem' table, rather than what they see on the field from spurs and the team that they are playing.
82spursdebut
peterballb, 17 points behind the leaders, out of both domestic Cup competitions to lower league opposition by January... Every real Spurs fan on earth knew how much we needed a top class striker. Give up you pathetic arse licking Levy/Enic apologist!
pelebro
peterballb Yeah they can do a job but they drift in. There is going to be times this season when games will get stretched, what happens if Bale gets an injury, Dempsey is good on the left but townsend gives us a different dynamic if need be, especially on the break,baffled by it tbh.

dannylane i can only assume AVB sees something we cant in training, thats the only explanation i can think of.
spurfect one
Tottenham Hotcore, less than a game a week the rest of the way unless we progress in Europa. 2 players or more per position. How much cover do you want? XI plus subs can play. We're fine. COYS
peterballb
I think we all need to hope for no long term injuries. I hope I haven't forgotten anyone but the way I see it we have a 24 man senior squad now. No cover at left-back and no cover on the wings. Have I forgotten anyone? Lloris, Friedel; Walker, Naughton; BAE, Fryers; Dawson, Kaboul, Verts, Gallas and Caulker; Parker, Carrol, Hudd, Dembele; Holtby, Sig and Dempsey; Bale, Lennon and Bentley; Defoe, Adebayor and Obika. I have shoved in Fryers, Bentley and Obika to make the numbers up. We are painfully thin everywhere apart from defence. I still feel we got the signing of the window in Holtby, but everyone strengthened, apart from Everton. I hope there is a plan, but I think Levy is hoping AVB can get that top four finish despite lack of funds. If we can do it this season, the future is bright. If we don't, then it will be twice as hard next time. If AVB pulls it off, it will be IN SPITE of Levy, and he will have pulled off a minor miracle.
Sebthespur
whitehartmart, Exactly! ENIC OUT!!!
pelebro
peterballb......i've seen andros live.....and i can tell you, he has twice as much talent as siggy'. Very good with both feet and delivers excellent inswinging corners with both feet. One to watch....he also impressing the england under 21 set up......he has great desire and will to win....but i agree ..he plays better at carrow road.
82spursdebut
hudderspur, I DO take offence. I think you will find that you cannot in fact combine "no offence mate" with "shut the ***** up"
Guernman
Pelebro, you are one vile troll. Reign your abuse in or depart. Tho, since you are some teenager we all know you won't
micyid
Rein it in
micyid
If this is true it's a good one: Levy told Harry "if you want Jenas and Townsend you must take Bentley as well". But Harry refused to take Bentley. Poor boy!
dannylane
Other than cover for wings, we all know that Ade adn Defoe should not be our first choice.CFs.
Tottenham Hotcore
We haven't bought a striker, but I feel really sorry for the ENIC apologists who pitch up at every opportunity to spin some wild and wacky reason for their inability to bring the club back to somewhere near its potential (Stadium of course). I'll be interested to see how they back Levy now, what with no striker this window, because that decision was nothing short of bonkers. Anyone who still backs this bunch of clowns really does suffer from Flat Cap Syndrome.
lordjohnny
Damn good squad T Hotcore.

Lots of people led on by SSN re Damaio. Doubt very much if we went in for him. The entire story was strange. First they offered him then finally stated he couldn't go until the summer. SSN just bringing in the viewers. I have complete faith that AVB will lead this squad to CL this season 4th or 3rd.
jvd
I think the lack of transfer activity in the transfer window will leave us in a tricky position come the business end of the season. Yes bringing Holtby's transfer forward gives us a extra dimension in midfield, but Fryer's is definitely one for the future and clearly will not have any impact on this season. What we needed was a real quality striker, someone who could apply sustaining pressure on Defoe and Ade (who has been absolutely abysmal this season). Whilst Ade is away, Defoe will continue to play like he has never seen a football before and he has competition to change his attitude in the fear that he might be dropped. However I am quite pleased and surprised that Levy and co have managed to shift some of the dead wood at the club. Townsend is a tricky one coz now we have no natural cover for the wing positions. Rotation is the key for the rest of the season, AVB has to get out of the bad habit of sticking by the same players when they continually let the club down. This summer we will do a shed load of business!
Lady Yid
let's not be totally doom and gloom. we are still in 4th and I do believe Holtby can make a difference and be a big upgrade over dempsey. However, we still have a wildcard and I don't think it's that wild...Adebayor can come back from the ACN and play in a lone striker role with Holtby behind him and I believe could be massive for us. Ade has obviously not had a great start to the season through injuries, suspensions, and form.. But, he's quality and while ineffective for much of the season I have only seen one game where he looked unmotivated which is promising. Hopefully, AVB is getting sick of putting Defoe on every team sheet, as he has been complete *****e for many games now and gives the Ade - Holtby partnership a real go.
laughter7
I think the lack of transfer activity in the transfer window will leave us in a tricky position come the business end of the season. Yes bringing Holtby's transfer forward gives us a extra dimension in midfield, but Fryer's is definitely one for the future and clearly will not have any impact on this season. What we needed was a real quality striker, someone who could apply sustaining pressure on Defoe and Ade (who has been absolutely abysmal this season). Whilst Ade is away, Defoe will continue to play like he has never seen a football before and he has competition to change his attitude in the fear that he might be dropped. However I am quite pleased and surprised that Levy and co have managed to shift some of the dead wood at the club. Townsend is a tricky one coz now we have no natural cover for the wing positions. Rotation is the key for the rest of the season, AVB has to get out of the bad habit of sticking by the same players when they continually let the club down. This summer we will do a shed load of business!
Lady Yid
I have always thought Levy had done good things for us overall but what has transpired here truly baffles me. Defoe, Adebayor, Dempsey with Lennon and thankfully Bale pitching in for all our goals. Big ask.
Madaboutspurs
Pelebro on behalf of PeterBalb why don't you take your foul mouth and buzz off to whatever rock you crawled out from.
jvd
I really like to believe what "spurfect one" has said is true. AVB sees something we dont see at training and is confident of top 4 position but dont blame me if I change my name to Thomas as in "doubting Thomas" for the next few games.
Phil-Spurs
Can kind of understand why damiao didnt come. He's a risk at the moment, because it could be so easy for him to come from a hot sunny brazil to a cold snowy england and not hit the ground running and then suddenly he flops and just loses confidence and for £20mill its a big risk. I think the sticking point wouldve been add ons, and my understanding is we offered 13mill then a further 5 mill or so in add ons and inter wanted it all at once. Strikers are overpriced anyway let alone in january because the only strikers people including us fans are ones that are scoring, but these are so valuable to the clubs thats it hard to get them to due inflated prices i.e hooper, who im sure we enquired about but got told 15mill and we obviously said no. Same for negrado who sevilla want for 20mill and no less. Only positive is everton didnt improve, and arsenal only bought a LB. So holtby signing is probably best of our rivals. I think a change is needed though and i honestly hope the AFCON gives ade some form and then i think we could be looking at a holtby playing off adebayor, rather than dempsey off defoe. Could even try holtby off bale and stick dempsey or sigurdson out on the left. And a final option could be to put holtby next to parker (similar to modric and parker last year) and then push dembele up to where he used to play for fulham
craig spur
Can't understand loaning out of Townsend - he's far from the finished article but if you need a goal in the last 15mins of a game he is the type of player to bring on - although he is a bit hit and miss he can actually beat players and put in a decent cross. Doesn't AVB know of any strikers in the Potugese league that could do a job for Spurs - I am more convinced than ever before that AVB has very little say in who is bought to the club - Levy seems to be turning into Abramovich - but without the cash.
tottenhamtony
This whole 'deadline day drama' is a manufactured piece of horse manure by Sky who OWN the PL. The whole Damiao saga was invented by SSN and the proof is that the real drama was in our trying to find a striker who, like Holtby, could start playing NOW, not in six months after acclimatisation and settling in. Over-hyped, false dramatics by the most scurrilous media gang in town!!
innispurs
least we've got the Europa Cup to look forward to again next season?
slim40
Aye innispurs, every other outlet was reporting the deal wa soff hours before sky
micyid
yep' good points their craig....just think.. siggy is best left to start on the bench, for me.
82spursdebut
There's a striker called "EDER" that plays for Sporting Braga.......Man.utd know about him.
82spursdebut
Lordjohnny, yes I wouldn't have minded a striker coming in. I would have loved to get Hooper. Most on here didn't want him but he's scoring consistently and is full of confidence. I however, just like you and everyone else on here have no idea of the constraints which DL is working with. I absolutely believe he is a Spurs man through and through and is trying to achieve a vision he has for Spurs long term development into a top tier team.

Most of us on here want immediate success and are willing to spend whatever it takes to achieve that shortsighted goal. Unfortunately for us the two visions are at odds with each other. However I prefer to respect the fact that Levy is fully aware of the situation and his decisions are made from knowledge. I give him credit for sticking to his plan and not bowing to the pressure from the fans. The guy has cojones. Call me whatever name makes you feel happy but we've been better off with Levy than we've ever been in the PL. Consistently in top 5 and competing for CL.
jvd
Looks like AVB will and is trying to build around 4-5-1 or 4-2-3-1 systems and will get this achieved by the next transfer window. As in: Lloris (GK); Walker (RB), Kaboul / Vertonghen (CB); BAE (LB); Lennon (RW) Sandro (injured) / Parker (DM) Dembele (CM) Bale (LW); Holtby (AM) just behind striker; Adebayor (CF). Substitutes: Friedel, Naughton, Caulker, Carrol, Obika and Defoe. In this scenario, if Parker gets injured during the game then Caulker comes in and Vertnghen gets pushed further up into (DM). With Kaboul still out then Vert and Caulker at (CB), with Dawson coming in and Vert moving to (DM) should an injury happen to either CB. My problem / question is who is cover for Lennon or Bale with Falque, Townsend on loan? Ahhh........what do I know? Just ge us Lilywhite supporters 3rd or minimum 4th spot and I dont want to listen to excuses anymoe.....whatever the excuse might be (for or anti- Levy / ENIC / Lewis!!!! COYS!!!! Bring on WBA.
Phil-Spurs
''CLOSED FOR STOCK TAKING'' that's the sign over Levy's door. Always look on the bright side of life'' We have got shot of Jenas, that alone is a bonus, now let's concentrate on finishing as high as possible, why all these negative thoughts, it was fun on ''Deadline Day Debate'' we hoped for a miracle, but it never happened, so onwards and upwards, WBA @ the weekend, to everyone who took the time and trouble to post, thanks for all the laughs, we have great support on here, stay lucky guys, your all one in a million.
spu 4 life
Holtby will cover the wings hopefully. He's played out wide before
micyid
I am not able to justify Levy's inaction here. Yes 20 mil for Damaio may be OTT but we had 31 days to get a striker in and it does not have to be a 20 mil signing. WE NEEDED A STRIKER to bolster our attack. Almost all barr one or 2 of us would agree with that.
Madaboutspurs
Maybe we didn't buy a Damiao because Obika is set to come through? I must admit the guy is super quick and would be able to cause defences problems
Lady Yid
Amen "spu 4 life'" just that in my case "CLOSED FOR CATHCING UP WITH MY SLEEP!" Long day and a disappointing one if I may add. Bring on the Baggies!!!!! COYS!
Phil-Spurs
*CATCHING UP....." Sorry lack of sleep. Micyid: if Holtby played on the wings for a particular game (slight injury to Lennon or Bale) then our creativeness in midfield (AM) will drop several notches. Carrol?
Phil-Spurs
Thanks spu4life , liked your jokes in the previous article too. I'm going to try to let this 'we need striker' thing go. lol
Madaboutspurs
Lloris, Walker, Verts, Caulker, BAE, Parker Lennon, Dembele, Bale Holtby, Ade Bench: Freidel, Naughton, Daws, Siggy, Dempsey, Defoe Considering this doesnt include Kaboul and Sandro who are two of our best players and leaders then not too shabby. Still... diamiao noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo :-(
TornadoYid
@Lady Yid: In fairness to Obika, I dont get to see much of the younger players (stay in the Philippines where basketball is the national game) but I really hope that Obika or one of the younger forwards / strikers does an "ala Bale" where AVB's hands are forced to bring one i and play him due to an injury and Obika / the youngster shines and goes on to be a star (15 to 18 goal wonder)!!!! A man is allowed to dream they say..... Well, the transfer window has come and gone.....All the best to our beloved team and AVB!!! COYS!
Phil-Spurs
I think our squad is at least as good as Arsenal's and i rate AVB highly. So i guess i think we can get fourth. The sooner Ade gets back the better. At his wort he is better than Defoe. Yes we need a striker but not for silly money. I don't think Inter wants to sell Damiao unless it's for silly money, so what can you do? On the plus side, Holtby may be our new VDV and can last a full 90 minutes. We are stronger already with him in the team. We have a good defense. We really ought to pick up enough points.
asherthesmasher
Goodbye JJ. Thanks for the memorys, especially those good games against le scum. Shame it never really happened for you at Spurs but good luck at QPR. As for Damiao its as if some of you were just waiting to kick off as soon as the window shut - It was never going to happen yet you fall for it every single time. Lastly hats off to David Beckham. Sure he's rich as pi$$ - but its stilll an act that needs congratulationg giving millions to charity to stuff, great ambassador to English football.
HuddersfieldYiddo
innispurs-the best and most honest post all day,sky are a joke on transfer deadline day.so in levy.
topspur53
oh yeah.... thanks Tornado Yid. Damn, I forgot about Dempsey and Siggy. Ok so we have Siggy that can help cover the wings and (AM) if need be......and we also have Dempsey to cover for (AM) too just not the striker's position I hope. Thanks for the reminder TornadoYid.....In my depressed and sleepy condition I forgot those two players.. Cheers! COYS!
Phil-Spurs
leandro deal was never on,good post -lord johnny-ENIC apologists OUT
topspur53
All the best to Jermaine Jenas :-)
Madaboutspurs
So we still have Bentley and Huddlestone on our payroll? I kind of like Huddlestone though his lack of speed is a problem... What do you guys think of him as a cover for CB where he could use his height and also accurate passes to help launch attacks???? Of course there is the clumsy tackle he might out in......hmmmm.....or maybe just in front of the CBs..... Looks like Total KNobhead might get his wish until Adebayor gets back.....4-6-0! We'll probably start with 4-2-3-1 and then pull off Defoe (so he does not get any worse / injury) then revert to 4-6-0. LOL! or vise versa....bring him on in the later part of the game! This is why I love my beloved Spurs!!!!!! COYS!!!!
Phil-Spurs
its all about effort and win loose draw as a team. look at man u matching city all the way last season and 7 points clear this time now, we took 4 points from them, its in our own hands just like last season. we have enough in our locker to finish top 4. its ours to loose again. if we had everton's fight and desire things may be different. if we dont get CL what a downer it will be for the club
123spurs
352 lloris, walker bae, caulker verts daaws, parker dembele (holding) bale holtby stricker
123spurs
Madaboutspurs, your comment about the "little sweetener" is spot on, an exactly what some of us said would be the case 3 weeks ago, Fryers and Holtby were always going to be our only signings. When I quoted AVB's statements re "we don't envisage any more signings in the January window" I was villified, but of course he was right, if misguided and sad. It was never Fagin's intention to spend in this window, irrespective of the needs on the pitch, that is of little or no concern to him, we are a business like any corner shop, supermarket, bank or any other concern. We are a piece of Nth London real estate that was purchased by our owners for peanuts, that just happens to house a football club, their objective is to grow the value of the business by reducing operating cost to a minimum, and putting up a couple of buildings, but only if somebody else will pay for them, and when they see fit to sell it at a mind blowing profit. Of course all of this is of no benefit to fans, unless they happen to be shareholders, they will just see their club be nearly but not quite successful, or worse, particularly until 2018 while it is starved of investment to pay for a new stadium, to enhance the property portfolio, as Levy controls and retards progress as he has in this transfer window. He and Lewis practice the George Osborne school of economics, screw everybody to the floor, eradicate debt, but then when you turn round, you have managed to starve everything into submission, so their is nothing left to progress and grow. If he has succeeded in sabotaging our season, I hope in late May when we have failed to make the CL, he is made acutely aware of the true supporters frustrations.
Frank
Phil-Spurs the general censensus over ere is that we should 100 % of got bentley away from this club!! An absolute moron. Hudd I also like and I just think hasnt lived up to his potential so not so gutted he is still with us. Not cover for CB tho!!!! haaha. I just think everyone is gutted we didnt get decent striker as we have looked great moving forward but a bit blunt up top to really punish teams and be devastating. I think the likes of damiao, villa et al would give us that. Now we have to rely on two off form strikers one of which is injured and the other we are not sure where his heart is.
TornadoYid
dont post much.but we all love spurs.
duckworth
"Can kind of understand why damiao didnt come. He's a risk at the moment, because it could be so easy for him to come from a hot sunny brazil to a cold snowy england and not hit the ground running and then suddenly he flops and just loses confidence and for £20mill its a big risk," craig spur.

Not quite an accurate assessment of where Damião plays. Porta Alegre, the home town of Internacional, is in the coldest part of Brazil, where the winter temperatures are around 5 to 10 degrees Celcius and it sometimes drops below freezing and it sometimes snows.

Total knobhead
Porto Alegre, Rio Grande de Sul. Can go down to minus 3 or 4 Celsius from May through August. The lad has seen some London-like weather there. Of course, it can get very hot in summer, Dec, Jan.
Total knobhead
So true duckworth. We have a common interest/love. Frustrating though, being a SPURS supporter.
Madaboutspurs
o god has it really come down to the weather imalready as depressed as can be
TornadoYid
I just love our tottenham
duckworth
Frank, after this latest transfer window debacle, I can understand why you are often quite negative with how the club is run. I see where you're coming from.
Madaboutspurs
Mad, you don't just buy someone for the sake of it. Believe me when I say, if there were a striker out there that AVB wanted and could be afforded and who wanted to come it would have been done. You don't buy just for the sake of it. That's what Harry did. Every year buy for the here and now with no regard to the future. Defoe, by last year had become an impact sub. Keane gone in a year from Harry's plans and Crouch gone in 2. There's 40M in strikers. He could have, at the same time bought, for the same money, Falcao, Suarez and Castaignos, but he didn't. He wanted the quick fix. OK, got us CL (though I would argue that Bassong, Kranjcar, Pav, Corluka, Kaboul, Gomes, Dawson, Lennon, Bale, Modric all had a little something to do with it) and a bloated squad that Levy and AVB have had to address. In two windows they have cleared a lot of the excess, leaving only Gomes and Bentley. If Gomes impresses, super. Otherwise they are both gone by next summer. Leandro could not be done. Willian too could not be done. He was a target too. Why is there no anger over that? Could it be that he was overpriced? Obviously the Leandro deal was too expensive. Players have valuations. Since the Olympics, Leandro has been poor. We have a right to match. I am sure that if any of the big clubs that have been tracking him had bid for him, we would have had to match (assuming they had met Internacionale's valuation) or let him go. Only we were in for him and clearly we were not willing to pay OTT. All the other clubs who have been tracking him have way more resources than we do. Why is he not gone? He is not a surprise. He is a known commodity that is overpriced atm and who would have taken months, if not longer to bed in. Certainly, in that case, we were not willing to pay OTT. COYS
peterballb
FRank, other than a loan (and please tell me what striker who ticks all the boxes is available on a loan), who was going to come for six months so that AVB could get who he actually wanted. Is it not possible that Harry did not see players out there that could be afforded who were an improvement on what we had? Could it not be that the piece to the puzzle that AVB wants is not available. I know. Buy anyway. Get some guy you don't want and sign him to a 5 year contract. What could possibly go wrong with that? It is asinine to build only for the here and now. Negredo, Diame and others were being flogged to us, Liverpool and Arsenal. All three have issues. All three need solutions. None of them jumped at what was on offer. Why is that? Does Levy run those clubs too? Bentley was signed for what Ramos wanted to do. Harry came in and since then he has been a wage burden. 18 more months to go, it seems. AVB said all along, as you rightly point out that he did not intend to buy anyone. He said, ad nauseum, he did not think we needed a striker. Yes, after the clearly poor performances of Defoe and the sudden willingness of Internacionale to consider parting with Leandro, we went in. He is a target. Just too much though. I'm sure he is still a target, If he sucks over the next while, he may no longer be a target. If you have watched him since the Olympics, he has not looked as great as he did a year ago. I attribute it to too many games, but still, he has looked anything but good. Is he really going to come in and play in front of Defoe and Adebayor in the 4-5-1 that would appear to be what AVB is intending? I seriously doubt it.

Would I have liked us to sign Son, Castaignos, Perisic, Arnautovic, Belhanda and others? Sure. But they aren't being bought for me. If AVB doesn't want them, there is no place in the squad for them. COYS
peterballb
peter, let me make a few points as this is how I see the situation, albiet very simplistically. 1)We are light on strikers 2) We are chasing a top 4 finish with a few teams hot on our tail 3)We have a transfer window in January 4)We are not broke like Portsmouth 5)We must have scouts 6)Therefore, we must be able to get a striker in for a price we can afford to boost the squad to increase the likelihood of us getting CL, that will bring in more than 50 -60 mil revenue. Like I said, simplistic but that's how I see it.
Madaboutspurs
Decent window. Signed a very decent player in Holtby on the cheap, managed to get rid of some deadwood, get some of the decent you get players out on loan and swerve wasting money in Damiao, a very overrated player or any other last minute rubbish. Well done Daniel Levy.
Roscopip
Roscopip (Welcome !), it did not have to be a 'last minute rubbish' and it did not have to be Damaio.
Madaboutspurs
Our strikers last year at this time were Adebayor, Defoe, Saha. This year they are Adebayor, Defoe and Dempsey. Worse off? I can't buy that. Clearly we will be playing one up top. I don't see that being Defoe. So, Adebayor, who has been on holiday all year can now come in and hopefully make certain that we do not swoon in relegation form as we did the past two seasons. Let's see what happens. If we were going to be lucky to finish 6th this season, I have a hard time understanding why people are so ticked off. I'll suggest there is a plan in place and AVB is sticking to it. We have spent 65M on quality players. On the sales side of things other than Modric, I don't feel we are worse off for any of those who have gone. If Townsend, Pritchard, Dawkins, Kane, Gomes, Smith all get playing time, we are better off. Getting Pritchard to sign an extension, IMO, was huge. He, McEvoy, Luongo, Smith and a few others (Lancaster, Coulthirst) will all be knocking on the door soon enough. COYS
peterballb
Mad, it had to be someone AVB wanted. You don't just go to the supermarket and get the striker off the shelf beside the Froot Loops. It's like buying a home. Lots out there. You don't sign on the dotted line until you find the one that ticks all of the boxes for you in your price range. Hooper. Was never going to be him. Negredo, I was never sold on. Heck, Balotelli was more likely to tick off the boxes we need along with most of the supporters. There were two out there that ticked off the boxes. Both seemed fairly expensive (perhaps justified, perhaps way overpriced - only once you do the deal and get a few years in will you know). Leandro and Doumbia. That's about it. Anyone else was going to be a five year stopgap. Again, I'd have loved us to sign Son, but if he is not in AVB's plans, he should not have been bought. COYS
peterballb
The year we got CL gave us about 35M extra. That was not just CL, it was making it t the round of 8. Group stages gets you about 20-25M depending on your results and your TV money. No we are not broke. Nor were Leeds when they made that same gamble. They are still in the wilderness. Our scouts have identified players. That's why Fryers, Holtby and others were identified and bought. Pompey weren't broke when they spent. They were broke as a result of their spending. It is rarely the fee that is the issue. 15M for Bentley. No issue. His unmovable salary, huge issue. Still an issue. Will be next year too. Just keeps on hurting. That much less every week we can afford to spend. Get a striker in AVB doesn't want on a salary that can't be moved and that's less money to spend. We are one of seven teams all fighting for the same thing. City and United are certain. That leaves 5 fighting for 2 spots. AVB believes the squad is good enough as it is. I agree. It's not a guarantee. The players in the squad have the talent to get the job done. Since the Arsenal game we are 7W1L4D in the PL. It's not all that bad. COYS
peterballb
Madaboutspurs. Agreed, I wanted Negredo and was very angry we made no attempt but being as it may I'm very pleased we didn't just sign for that sake of numbers and would be happier sticking Bale upfront rather than sign Saha or suchlike again then readdress the situation in the summer.
Roscopip
I really hope AVB and you are right peter. I shall back our team all the way in the next few months. COYS !!
Madaboutspurs
Let's see what AVB has to say about it tomorrow. I suspect he will say that he is happy with what we have. COYS
peterballb
Looks like we're really into saving our money for the stadium. So, when are we going to see our new 60 thousand seater? Will we have bums in every seat when the stadium eventuates. The longer this drags out, our fan base may start to shrink. We need CL to attract new supporters, imo.
Madaboutspurs
Forget all the talk about the financial impact of signing a £20m striker. It is complete mis - management for a club of our status to be left with one injured striker and one dis interested striker who we only brought because he was cheap. Or if you want to look at it from a financial aspect how can a club worth over £500m not afford a decent striker. It shows once and for all that ENIC are only interested in increasing their value off the pitch whilst caring little for the fans who put so much money and faith into this club. You can fool us no longer Mr Levy with your insulting last minute bids. It's time for you to go
jonathan01
Gotta say the whole saga does stink. But I'm going to put it behind me and I'm 100% behind AVB an the lads. If they fail to achieve top 4 status come May2013, I'd be looking to Levy for answers, not AVB.
Madaboutspurs
I agree with most of what you say jonathon. At least we no longer have the embarrassment of 4 goalies v 2 strikers. So much of our season now rests on the ability of 2 men. AVB and his tactics and selection. And sorry to say Adebayor. What sort of Adebayor are we going to get back post ACN? Worryingly, as you will all remember his first stop back wont
jacobslad
We are one or 2 injuries away from some serious trouble.
Madaboutspurs
...(continued!) be the training pitch but the chairmans office where he will raise the issue of AVBs comments re his attendance in SA. Great start. So the 2 most important men, in my opinion, have got some making up to do somehow. We must all hope Adebayor performs. Supposedly our most expensive player and yet so poor on the pitch. I have said before that his nonchalance comes only second to his arrogance, and I hope I can eat my words come seasons end. Not only have we decided our 2 strikers are enough, we have decided 2 wingers will also suffice with Townsend, Pritchard and Falque currently being deemed surplus to requirements. A bad window imo.
jacobslad
ox, poll please. Has this been a good or bad window? I know where the votes are going to stack up.
Madaboutspurs
jonathan01, the value of the club has nothing to do what you can spend. Revenue does. Ours is going up, but nowhere near as much as our wages which I would guess have surpassed 70% of revenue this year. Do we make insulting last minute offers or do we offer clubs as much as we are willing at the last, having previously made bids we consider fair, leaving it to the selling club to say yeah or nay? Defoe was not cheap (2 Hoopers). Ade is on wages that we had not paid any one player until this season. Dempsey is not on 20 GBP per week either. Holtby is on a reported 70k/week. We pay good wages. In 2008/2009 wages were 62M, 2009/2010 67M, 2010/2011 91M. Last year would have been even higher. Our signings this year and improved wage packages for Bale, Defoe. Lennon and Walker will have further pushed that number up, likely beyond the accepted 70% of revenues. We also again (as with every year other than last season) have a net transfer loss. So to suggest we don't spend is patently, and objectively incorrect. If you mean we run our operation with a small profit or loss on a yearly basis. Sure, and that's why the franchise continues to be well run, continues to appreciate and will be in compliance with the FFPR. COYS
peterballb
I don't see a good squad, good starting 11, but just an injury or 2 from disaster. And we have no decent bloody striker. I just can't believe there wasn't at least a loan option, somewhere.
Tottenham Hotcore
jacobslad, fact is none of Townsend, calque, Pritchard were going to play. Hopefully they will all get playing time where they are so that AVB will either be able to consider them or sell them. Pritchard was just signed to a 2.5 year extension. Great job in my books and sending him off to the Posh to play is an even better move. I worry that Townsend won't play as Harry loves to have lots of guys around but will play the 13-15 he likes. The balance will sit. Falque is in a League that is better for his style of play. Jenas is gone. Gomes is on loan. Townsend, Rose and Kane are all on loan in the PL. We brought in Holtby and Fryers, both young talent that are pieces to the puzzle. Pritchard signed as well. It has, IMO, been a very good, calm window. Clearly, nothing that was doable was what was wanted by AVB. He has a plan. He will not do it half way. COYS
peterballb
Peterballb, my main point was that a club in our situation should not have left itself so exposed in the striker position. I also refuse to believe that we were not in a position to pay £15 - £20m for a striker. I am also convinced that Levy makes bids that he knows will be refused because he is not interested in making the signings. As a football fan I am more interested in the strength of our team than the strength of our balance sheet.
jonathan01
Tottenham Hotcore, name a striker who would play (not a Saha to sit) who would have come as a loan and whose club would have allowed to go as a loan. Most are not god enough and the parent club (like us with Jenas and Bentley) want them off the books. Loans are kids or surplus. It's what we loaned out. COYS
peterballb
Hotcore...great minds think alike
Madaboutspurs
We are in a position to spend 30M on a transfer if it makes sense and is within our valuation. AS I have repeatedly stated, we want Leandro. WE have an idea what we believe he is valued at. We did not go beyond that. Internacionale don't have to sell and really do not have anyone on their books of equal quality, so they want, as they stated, an offer that would blow their mind. Unsurprisingly, we did not choose to overpay. Leandro has been tracked by all of the big clubs in the world. They can all offer way more than we can. None of them were making an offer that would trigger our right to match. Wonder why that was? Harry would have taken something, anything and then sat him on the bench. AVB chose to wait and get what he wants. We are in 4th with not one of our strikers performing to their abilities. So, perhaps 3 is enough given that Holtby looks a sure thing to play in the hole. Defoe will have the next two weeks to sort it out. After that, Ade will be able to work with our VDV replacement. Hopefully he can get back to last season's form. Who out there, that was available, at our valuation, at what we can afford on wages, and that AVB wanted was available? It's a pretty short list. IMO there were only 2 strikers that suit what we are doing, Doumbia and Leandro. Both were just a little too expensive at this point. WE did sign over 60M worth of players this season. Hardly been a waste. COYS
peterballb
Name me a club in the top 8 besides spurs whose wide left player is the top scorer?! We have the weakest strike force in the top 8 and Levy has done nothing about it! I dont believe for a second an actual offer was made for Damiao and believe Levy's media team leaked BS info to make us think he made an effort! If the offer was real, surely after 3 windows of negotiation you know what they want for the player so why offer less?! This is a disaster and i fear we will pay for it AGAIN! Spurs to finish 6th!
jhbspur
Goodbye 4th and hello that rubbish Euro comp we are in now. The owners put the white flag up last night. Time to sell up and go. Would love to hear from Levy what is going on with the club. Just a joke.
nothappyharry
at least we signed noone....
noone
Name me a club in the top 8 besides spurs whose wide left player is the top scorer?! We have the weakest strike force in the top 8 and Levy has done nothing about it! I dont believe for a second an actual offer was made for Damiao and believe Levy's media team leaked BS info to make us think he made an effort! If the offer was real, surely after 3 windows of negotiation you know what they want for the player so why offer less?! This is a disaster and i fear we will pay for it AGAIN! Spurs to finish 6th!
jhbspur
We've been Levyed. I wrote and article on September 1st about DL and his deadline day ghost bids, Augero, Mouthinho etc. Most laughed but I guaranteed we wouldn't spend the £20m we were 'apparently' willing to spend on August 31st in Jan. Low and behold we haven't, just like we never see the £35m we 'apparently' bid for Augero. What makes me mad is how stupid Levy thinks we are.
liamyid
Net spend net spend net spend. Christ. Can't you guys see that a) arsenal's net spend has been pretty low for absolutely years and it did them no harm. B) more importantly you are comparing net spend to clubs like Chelsea and Man C and Liverpool who sign Shevchenko for 30m and let him go for nothing, or sign Carroll for 35m and will not see much of that back. Those guys are spending a constant amount of money. Whereas our spending on players goes UP. If you make profit on players and reinvest it, then even though your net spend is zero, you are spending MORE than you invested. It is not rocket science. This is the Levy plan, and we spent 50-60m since last year using the 16m Modric investment that we turned into 30m. We reinvested it all. Increase in spending because we do to waste our money on gambles like Leandro.
TonyRich
Jhbspur - arsenal's top scorer is Walcott... He has played sometimes up front but mainly not. I cannot understand why people were mostly silent about our striker situation in August with 38 games to go, but seem incensed when we have the same scenario but with only 14 games to go! I was not happy in August. Now there just isn't any point with so little season to go.
TonyRich
FIRST X1: Lloris, Walker, Verts, Caulker, BAE, Parker Lennon, Dembele, Bale Holtby, Ade

BENCH: Freidel, Naughton, Daws, Siggy, Dempsey, Defoe

ADD TO THAT: Carroll, Kaboom, Sandro, Fryers, Hudd and Livermore

These are the players we have for the rest of the season.. Sandro was a bigger blow than not getting a striker for me...

COYS ILIT IAVBIT.....

AVB will be able to buy who ever he wants in the summer i guarantee it.

This is a long term plan. And they wana make sure they are not just throwing money.

Id rather have the right 2-3 players to make the team we have now... even better....

Still think players like ALEXIS SANCHEZ, BENAT, SUAREZ, MATA, HERNANDEZ, ERIKKSON and ISCO.... are all the sort of players that would add serious quality to our team.

hold ur breath fello Yids it might be a bumpy ride till the end of the season.. but i think we have/ or are building a team to seriously compete in 2-3 season...

COYS
Yidmarks
What an amazing night!! Can't believe we finally landed Damiao!! Wow what a player cant wait to see him line up on sunday against west brom. Another good buy with getting Diame in to replace the injured Sandro for a sensible 3.5 mil. I think the most beautiful bit of all tho was the unexpected 11th hour signing of David Villa! Absolutely amazing night and Levy hats off to you sir you are a legend!!! (Wakes up from nice dream and realises the reality... starts crying into pillow).
TornadoYid
Tony, thats all good mate, but why mug us of every window with fake, or at best half arsed bids
liamyid
What an amazing night!! Can't believe we finally landed Damiao!! Wow what a player cant wait to see him line up on sunday against west brom. Another good buy with getting Diame in to replace the injured Sandro for a sensible 3.5 mil. I think the most beautiful bit of all tho was the unexpected 11th hour signing of David Villa! Absolutely amazing night and Levy hats off to you sir you are a legend!!! (Wakes up from nice dream and realises the reality... starts crying into pillow).
TornadoYid
DONT WASTE TIME MOANING... GET BEHIND OUR TEAM... SUPPORT THE TEAM AND TH MANAGER...

COYS
Yidmarks
TR-mate, We don't have to compare our spending to any other club...up until two years ago we made a net investment in the first team, whilst we did that we went from mid table to challenging and then breaking into the top4 when we pulled the plug....as we saw on the way up there is a lag between investment and result. As for getting a striker we still have half the season left...you seem to forget that we don't buy until the 31st of August!
shedboy2
Yidmarks- we always support the team....but get ready for the team to be crap over the next 10 years whilst we spend the money on the stadium....no way we can copy arsenal as we've gone wrong from the start...we'll have people on here saying 5th is a good finish, transition blah blah...and then next year we'll be 7th....and the year after there'll only be a couple of people on here....we're on the slide, I now have to put my faith in AVB, he's the only one to save us...
shedboy2
so levy and AVB lied is that what you mean OX when you say they didn't talk of spending millions but then went out and offered millions? Of course I suspect they knew like the rest of us 13/17m was not going to be enough for Leandro but it gives the plebs something to talk about...
shedboy2
Agreed Yidmarks. Long term. Avb was a long term choice. You cannot guarantee top four. If AVB has it, then he must show it. Any money spent now comes out of summer fund. Better to use it at end of season when we know exactly what we need as opposed to now which would merely be a panic buy. My only concern is player tiredness, where only Chelsea's most started XI have played more games than us. We will need to rotate A little more until end of season.
TonyRich
oh well there is always peter Obinwinge kicking his heels back to the Baggies...................after all he must be good Harry wanted him??
WestStandEnclosure
She'd boy - we finished 4th last season... Nothing has changed. Or have you forgotten already? We have LESS than half a season left. if we sign striker, it may take 4 games to get into stride. Then only ten games left. Not worth it really. Remember Bergkamp took 7 games to score despite being superb? We should have had 3 chosen strikers with 38 games to go. That is the target for next season. We had a very good squad...just deficient in one area.
TonyRich
Shedboy - apologies for the typo, that was the auto correct being completely stupid...
TonyRich
Come on shed, why so pessimistic. As long as Levy his here, I am optimistic. He is the one who got us 2 4th place finishes, 3 5th place finishes when before him, The highest was a single 7th, one 8th, three 10ths and the rest bottom half between 1991 and 2001. And we are currently 4th. Our squad is without doubt a top five. My only question mark is AVB's inexperience.
TonyRich
Hopefully it will be business back to normal now! It’s a Big game on Sunday, looking forward to playing West Brom at their place. They have conceded a fair few in their last games but I think they have a defender returning from the ANC probably in time for the game. Lukaku is a threat and I wonder the best defence line up to go with? Defoe is due a goal or two and I bet he will be up for this one. Can we get a new article Ox to blab on? Cheers. COYS.
SpursOne2
Did I miss anything?
SpuriousLife
No one has said we haven't got a strong squad from the goalkeepers To the attacking midfielders. What we all should be in agreement is we Need a striker. Dempsey is NOT a striker. We have two. 1. Is out of the Country and is desperately out of form and the other is Defoe. The less said about him the better, oh and he's carrying a knock. I don't blame levy last season, he didn't trust Harry and was unsure he Would still be here. But he must back AVB. He's had two windows to sort This problem of ours. Ba? Would he have improved us? Could we afford the 7.5M fee? The 70k wages? I'm sure we could. There are plenty more as well! We still could get 4th but the odds are against us now. Cheers Danny boy.
spurspanther
SpuriousLife - Not much, not a lot for us cry about anyway…Everton got a new defender so did Arsenal. We got a new attacking midfielder in Hotlby and let a few go. The surprise move for me was probably Butland to Sunderland in the summer?
SpursOne2
*Stoke even
SpursOne2
TonyRich, good posts, i agree with you (when you are not sniping at AVB!). We now have a proper long-term strategy in place and a proper long-term manager who wants to WIN (not just finish 4th for finishing 4th's sake). Fyers and Holtby in, excellent young signings just where we needed cover. No up and coming strikers available this window i guess at the right price. No biggy, we'll keep looking for the missing pieces to the jigsaw. Remember we've only had 6 months on this new journey, given we had 4 years previously of Harry blowing big money on short-term fixes like Crouch, Defoe, Keane, Pav, Saha etc etc (I won't even mention what he's doing to QPR - do club's never learn when they take him on as manager?!). We've also cleared out a hell of a lot of deadwood from the previous regime, only Bentley left. It'll be more of a clean slate in the summer, gradual improvement. I'm optimistic about where we are going. Too many people on here spend too long watching Sky Sports News.
StillRickyVilla
AVB said himself they got Dempsey to score as he is a scorer so he obviously sees him as a striker or front man. We got Ade a striker so to be far we have brought in two forwards and he also said it is hard to keep four strikers happy. So we have three forwards problem is Dempsey didn't hit the ground and is not prolific at the moment but may be AVB feels he will get us enough goals. Defoe is Defoe starts well then goes weeks without a goal and ADe has been woeful. Bringing in another forward at a huge costs is probably not what they want to do to have four strikers may be they feel it is up to AVB to get Defoe and Ade and Dempsey working harder not throw twenty mil on a striker. Personally I cannot see Ade or Defoe here in the summer if they are and Dempsey remains then unless we get CL I can't see that striker coming because can we keep four strikers happy. Easy to say sell one but will they go, look we haven't been able to sell players that easily. May be the philosophy is you have the strikers and you need to get them playing. If they don't perform may be we will try and sell in the summer and then replace but may be three is the limit. Huge gamble because Ade and Defoe are not in form and Dempsey has not proven himself at this level yet but who knows may be they will turn their game around and all of them will produce the goods.
thfan
It seems to me that our long term strategy is to offload our best players and replace them with inferior quality. We always make excuses as to why we didn't get what we needed in the latest transfer window but the bottom line is that ENIC do not care about the performance of tham as long as we stay in the premier league. Bale will leave on 31st August and we will again spend only some of the money on inferior players. i honestly do not beleive there is any other long term strategy in place. Having said that, we all still love the club and will be right behind the team on Sunday COYS
jonathan01
Jonathan, there are 2 ways to get to the top. 1. The Arsenal way. Be clever, have a clear long-term strategy, buy young and continually invest profits back into the team and hopefully build a new 60,000 stadium fit for a club of our size and then hopefully start winning things. Or 2. The City/Chelsea way. Bring in a sugar daddy new owner and literally buy our way to the top. Given that not once in 13 years has Joe Lewis ever put his hand in his own pocket that's simply not going to change. I don't like it but either but what's the point in constantly moaning about it. The only way to do it with ENIC in charge is option 1. At least it means we have a plan now and we are on the right track.
StillRickyVilla
Dempsy was brought in to score goals but he is still not a striker. A forward thinking player yes but not an out and out striker. the way he and Defoe played wends i really would start Bale up top against W.B.A. Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Verts, BAE, Dembele, Parker, Lennon, Holtby, Gylfi and Bale.
spurspanther
Having said that I am not convinced myself AVB can get the strikers firing on all cylinders because Defoe has always been inconsistent and Ade has always been a problem throughout his career and Dempsey has never played at this level. I hope we do have enough to get us that CL spot, only consolation is Arsenal and Chelsea are also inconsistent but Everton look strong this season.
thfan
spurspanther - Ade will be back in a few games...and form is temporary. He still has a lot to give to this team of ours. So have the others for their part. It was this time last year people were saying old danny boy would not break the bank to sign him! Remember? In fact most of the people having a field against him last night were doing exactly the same last year!. …no way will Levy sign Adebayor, we lack ambition etc…he won’t put his hand in his pocket etc….To expensive….we won’t change the wage structure because Levy is a tight arse…..well he did…and has signed others since then (again people seem to forget this). Ade is a Spurs boy and we need to back him as he is one of the 3 forward we have to play this season. I understand your points, and I’m not going to put myself in line to be called a Levy apologist or ENIC hotspur fan or some crap like that because I recognise the need to keep the team fresh and more importantly covered…but maybe, just maybe they were always plans to get AVB the right person and it want possible this time? Yes we need a striker…believe more SPURS fans will be shouting this in summer purely because of the age of two of our current players. Nothing against their ability…Defoe love him or not is one of our highest all time scoring forwards…just shows how long he’s been here ha. Any long term suitor will come in and eventually take the reigns from him? At the moment AVB backs him fully and he won’t give up the spot that easy…not this year. Dempsey is improving here and he has only been here five minutes but is also getting on (ish ha). There is space to improve on signings…..but also as a team. Its in our hands now! COYS.
SpursOne2
By the way, qualifying for the CL does NOT suddenly take us to financial wonderland. We will still be the same club with the same financial constraints - as was proven last time we qualified! For example the full package for a £25m striker on £100k a week wages over a 5 year contract would be £51m! ONE CL campaign would pay for just over half of that! We need to get real and trust the current strategy.
StillRickyVilla
Yidmarks, you say that Levy will let AVB sign who he wants in the summer. But you are forgetting that if we fail to get top 4 "who he wants" may not wish to join a team not in the CL. Reading these posts there is probably 85% disbelieve that we didn't sign a striker who will capitalise on the chances that Defoe and Ade have squandered. That is all most fans wanted. And Peterballb, I know Falque Townsend and Pritchard will get game time, but it leaves us short of cover for the wings, and for rotation which will be important as we enter the final months of the season. Bale's goal against Norwich was a beaut but he was lucky not to have ben seriously injured by one of 2 dreadful desperate attempts to stop him. We and he can only expect more of that from teams desperate to avoid the drop.
jacobslad
Disappointed. Deflated. Confused. Can't decide if I'm disgusted but I can say I'm not surprised. No Leandro. No Ricky. No Wilfried. No Alvaro. Not even a Gary or a punt at a Championship striker. So no back up plan to JD, who is one dimensional & only any use when HE is scoring as he can't see a pass to save his life, and Ade who is not one dimensional but isn't scoring. So where do the goals come from now? Now we are down to a little luck & some scraped results to stay 4th. Where's our ambition? Our statement that 4th place is ours? This says "We'll give it a go but...' and how will that affect Bale etc? Modders left 'cos of this. What will other potential targets think of joining in the summer? It just gives out the wrong signals to everyone - especially us fans. I am so glad I went down the pub last night for a few pints of Headless Peg & didn't sit in waiting....
GreavesIsGod
thfa, dont forget Liverpool. They have and will continue to improve. Sturridge a good signing addressing their lack of strikers.
jacobslad
Still Rickyvilla, I don't think we do have a long term strategy to buy young and develop players. Dempsey and Adebayor are not young, they were either last minute options or cheap. They were clearly not part of a long term strategy. If we did have that plan, I would be all for it. Our current striker position is clearly not the result of a clear long term plan. it is the result of Levy's disasterous transfer dealings.
jonathan01
I'm trying to keep a calm and level head about this. I expected nothing, and that's what we got. I refused to get carried away with the ITK's and SSN propaganda, and so it was with a marginal sense of relief that I welcomed 11p.m last night. Despite it extinguishing the tiny glimmer of hope I had that we would be surprised with our dream striker arriving. It didn't, we dust ourselves off, and we move on. The first thing I'd say is I am increasingly dismayed at the amount of people on here berating each other. Specifically those who accuse those of you (US!!) of lacking support for our club when we express anger and frustration at our apparent inability or unwillingness to go the extra mile to strengthen our team and squad in the one area when it is desperately needed and has been for far too long. There seems to be a division forming which harks back to the pro-Harry/anti-Harry days, simply substitute Harry with Enic/Levy/Lewis. If people on here are angry, it's borne out of love and ambition for OUR club. And without wishing to sound like a total hippy, we're all in this together. Debate all you want, it's what the forum's here for after all. But name-calling and abuse just makes me (and presumably a lot of other people) either skip pages or turn off the page altogether. I said at the start of this season that I thought we'd finish 6th, and that anything over and above would be a bonus in AVB's first season. And I have to remember that, despite our current position giving me a stronger sense of optimism. I would also point out that any transfer window which sees the departure from our squad and wage bill of Jermain Jenas can NOT be considered an abject failure. Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
Does this mean we'll be seeing Bentley on the sub bench at last? We've got no wingers left at all it seems.
Moscovite
So, apart from Fryers & Holtby, we didn't sign the biggie everyone expected. Levy didn't pull his "usual" mega signing out of the hat. Whoopidee-fecking-doo!!

So what!? It's not Levy's responsibility to sign players just because we THINK we need them or because we merely WANT them.

OK, be disappointed, even be a little bit annoyed over the same old "Damaio" crap, but the sheer ire & venom being spouted simply because a mega star wasn't signed is pathetic! Some of the reaction has been ridiculous & well OTT. Those of you who've reacted in this way should fecking grow up!

Spuds-U-Like
Perfect attitude & sense spoken there LilyWhiteHart.

Spuds-U-Like
jvd. foul mouth? Compare my arse statement to the filthy language used on this site directed to the likes of Frank, myself and any other REAL Spurs fan who want this Enic mob out by the Enic Hotspur Fan Club members. And the language on here directed at Harry by the Enic mob was disgrace last season as Levy was preparing to use the old Enic back stabbing Dagger! And just watch the Enic fan club members turn on AVB (with their foul language) when it all goes wrong again... Apologises to peter, if my calling him an Levy arse licker offended him. I am sure there must have been a politer way of phrasing the truth, just a few minutes after the Enic mob took done over their customers in yet another transfer window...
pelebro
Spuds, calm down no ones firing bullets. I dont read sheer ire and venom, I read disappointment. Most of us would have settled for 6th, in AVBs first season etc, but that was before he got us into 4th position with a team that lacks goal power. Defoe is playing OK, Ade isn't. Defoe is carrying an injury. We need options in that posiiton, not a mega signing. Perhaps Obika can be developed or Coulthirst, but we are an injury away from a bit of a problem. And dont forget, unless I have missed anything in the media, Ades first stop on return is not the training ground but the Chairmans office to bitch about his manager. Great start.
jacobslad
I'm not even joking when I say this but... Saha anyone?
spurspanther
youve all got to think, man united didnt sign anybody big for this season, neither did man city, neither did chelsea, so why should we... jan window is mainly for relegation clubs and clubs that dont want to get sucked in... big player dont tend to go in january... c it as a positive that we are not panic buying like the old days, we have got to fourth with the squad we have and chelsea are going to come unstuck, we have the squad to get third, for you fans that curse the club, go support the club up the road from us, oh i forgot they are worse off than us COYS
ng9-yid
darkenvai the difference is that I know the difference between fantasy & reality mate.

Reallyjacobslad? Take a little closer look mate, especially in the top 20 or so posts. You could argue that calling it ire & venom is a tad OTT, but that's how I read it.

Spuds-U-Like
Man utd have Van persie, Rooney, Hernandez, Wellbeck. City have Aguero, TEvez, Dezeko. And Chelsea did buy... Ba!
spurspanther
We got tumbleweed just like I said we would. Now can we all stop fretting, move on and support the team. We love the Spurs and whatever happens we will still support them. Enjoy the ride!
JayCoys
Hello all, not posted for a long while and share the disappointment of not getting another striker in but on the other hand very much share the view of Peterballb and alike. I firmly believe Mr Levy is a Spurs boy through and through. Let's face it what other chairman could buy Piennaar for 3.5 mill...... hardly play then sell him for 4.5 million? Incredible business... also i listened to a french journalist speaking about the Lloris buy......their chairman wanted more but the journalist (in his own words) said i dont think he knows who he is dealing with...... what happens we got him at our valuation and before anyone cries crook tactics Mr Ferguson didn't like the Fryers business but not a mention of slagging Mr Levy there. The only thing was it was all the more sweet it pulled the wool over the Mancs! So where do we sit.....4th behind a club worth 2 billion, a club owned by a bottomless pit of money and a club (despise them) with an owner that pumps anything at anything. The chasing pack we need to we wary of Everton..... not got the squad we have by any stretch and a few injuries would cripple them totally. They have a great team spirit but so do we......! The Arse (despise them) will always leak goals and a left back wont stop that and i believe their forwards wont compensate the defence. Lastly Liverpool... too far behind in my opinion. Suarez...... a handful but Sturridge? He would never have been sold if any good..... Torres isn't exactly bursting the onion bag. To finish....... how about in some games Vertonghen at left back with BAE left mid and Bale central? Vertonghen is not a natural LB but Bale cant defend for toffee but BAE can certainly help in that respect and loves to sling a cross in for Adebayor and co....
Jocka101
Forgot to add with Levys business acumen he could run any business he chose......so why Spurs at all?
Jocka101
Spuds, looking again you are probably right depending on how you translate all the ****s! I am in a different time zone at present, didnt have time to start from the top. I am sure they will settle down, its not like madabout to get angry though!
jacobslad
with Levy's business acumen why choose Spurs....surely you've answered your own question there....it's the most profitable vehicle for him. How is he a multi millionaire?
shedboy2
Yes but Shedboy.... is Spurs the most profitable company on the planet? Can Levy only run a football club?
Jocka101
Touchedarkenvai! :-)

Fair point jacobslad, they already have settled down, although there are still 1 or 2 spouting the same crap they have been all week.

Spuds-U-Like
ng9-yid- we've all got think- Manu didn't buy anyone big for this season?...uugh I guess you don't count RVP and Kagawa...Zaha for next wasn't cheap, Chelsea bought every AM at the start of theseason but still managed to add Ba, Arse despite being tight addressed their LB problem with a Spain international and Grioud and Podolski added firepower in the summer...we can't focus too much on them though what we need to do is improve our team...we haven't done that.
shedboy2
All aboard the slide boys....we'll have Arse fans waving notes at us soon....we're skint, leveraged to the stadium.
shedboy2
CONFUSION? Yesterday Levy received a phone call, the caller asked him ''Are you interested in a MP3 Player'' Levy's reply was ''what position does he play and how much are you asking for him''
spu 4 life
No jocka101 I dare say his qualifications in Land economy actually mean he's not well suited to run a football club, I dare say that's why ENIC left some of the others they owned....but are there many other companies that have gov't backing to buy up huge swathes of London? He'd make a good estate agent but I can't think that would make him the millions that our club does....but no we should all thank him for? for? for? making millions from us?
shedboy2
I am constantly amazed at our readiness to believe the media, especially that we made a bid. I saw reports that we had bid 13m, 15m, 18m and 20m. Intl pres was open, Intl pres says not till summer. Total rubbish. LD has suffered injury this year and has been off the boil. He wasn't even around to talk to. Absolute media lies but we jump on Levy. Behave yourselves the man isn't a simpleton.
jvd
JVD- the president of Inter is making it up is he? the fee will be subject to speculation and of course people will get it wrong as there were two parties to be paid 70/30% split...Levy is no simpleton he's made himself a fortune from our club.
shedboy2
Excellent post LilyWhiteHart!!!
Ossie
My bet now is to give Bale a free role up top with Holtby behind him and Dempsey coming in from the left. Dempsey did well for Fulham in that role and Holtby looked dangerous and he may well be the missing link to create chances for Bale to become a roaming striker. If it doesn't work take Dempsey off switch bale to the left and bring Defoe or ade on. I am glad that we didn't panic buy and get more of the same but would have liked a quality striker but not end of the world, we can get behind these players and hopefully some like Ade will improve and introduction of Holtby may mean we just about tip the others to fourth.
thfan
but didnt you believe we could get David Villa yesterday JVD ??
Ossie
squad stability is underrated. no-buy is much better than liverpool-andy style, remember! proven Damiao? olympics and brazil league said nothing, why 20m+???!!! in Levy i still trust - that is the way this club will go forward. COYS!
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