Sig- Our- Forgotten- Son

Too early to say. So far he's not reproduced his form at Swansea but that's not to say he won't. I don't think AVB will be making any final decisions on him until the end of next season. From what I have seen so far I'm not sure what his best position actually is.

If this guy was going to set the world on fire, i think we would have had to pay slightly more than the 10mill we did, he had a purple patch and we bought him, that for me shows his potential the guys got he's still young, at a new club, new pressures. Give it a year or 2 and we'll see a hell of a lot more than what we're seeing now. Although the performances have been unremarkable, he hasnt done anything specifically terrible to make me think he has no future with us.

Give it time- he just needs some game time and longer to settle in. But you can't get rid of a player of Sigs quality after half a season- the sport is a Squad game as well as team game. He definitely offers a goal threat as a sub, even now when he's not in best of form. Let us be patient with the bloke and AVB.

I'm wondering if perhaps we can see a mid three of Sandro/Parker-Holtby-Sigg with Holtby deeper and Siggy up top. It does seem Holtby has the workrate to play deeper and would fit better than Siggy, who is firmly an AMC.

Spurring you on. I think Holtby could play CM. I have been very impressed with his 1 touch passing. Would relally make us tick in there. In fact, with our current options (lack of) I'd chuck him in there now.

The looks so out of sorts at the moment and when given his chance he never takes it with both hands he is a small fish in a hugh pond at WHL .

You can't judge a player that hasn't really had any opportunities. If he had a good run like Dempsey I feel he would shine. He would offer us a greater threat with and without the ball. Just my opinion.

Off topic, i been thining.............Jenas, modric, Vdv, Krancjar, Pav VS Siggy, Dembele, Holtby and ADe. To me the later is an upgrade by a mile. No doubting VDV and Mdric are world class but the later fills me with more confidence that we are building something speciail. Sorry thought id share that. I am beleive this kid has great potential and has the desire to excel. He wont be happy to sit and no play and is work ethic is great. I do believe that there was a spark between him and Bale early in the season. They were linking very well and Siggy's corners were very effective. I am surprised after 18 corners against west brom tho we didnt convery any.

Decent player,hasn't hit the heights yet, but I think 1 for the future. Worth keeping him still.

What's his best position? Mickeys1969 - you could see Bale was quality he was just not stopping enough crosses at LB....once pushed further forward (as some of us had been advocating) he shined. G Star...for me the older players were better, the new ones are potential and may get there but at the moment Dembele has been good but not as consistent as Luka, Gylfi has been invisible Kranks when played in the hole or on the left scored and looked good, VDV finished article v Holtby who's played 70 mins! Ade v Pav -on his day Ade offers more to the team but Pav could dig out a shot from nothing...Jenas v no-one close call both as effective as the other....;)

Lets not beat about the bush…he has done sweet FA so far. He had a few games on the trout early doors and didn’t o anything, now he’s nowhere near the starting line up. Can we write him of???…..far too early to tell I think, but I think the £10m would have made the decision easier for me. Maybe now the team is settled a run of games would do the trick, because he clearly has talent, but like pienaar may be better suited to another team. Im very surprised that AVB hasn’t played him for Demspey in a few games though, fair enough clint has chippe in with a few crucial goals but his overall play has been under-par. Maybe now we haven’t got a striker we will se him get a few more games, who knows where AVB plays him in training. For me he better than Clint but from first impressions no where near as good as Holtby. Bit hard to make any worthwhile judgment considering we have seen almost bugger all playing time between the two of them though.

Our new Jenas

Interesting comments about Dembele thfan. I persoanlly think he could be our one of our central midfielders for many years to come. He's had one or two poor games (V QPR he was very poor) but overall id say he's been one of our better players. The guys got talent, and is still adapting to the CM role. Hope he stays.

If you look at Sigurdson's career then, perhaps with hindsight we were unwise to pay £7m for him from Hockenheim, and even more unwise to turn down a bid of £10M from Reading in this window. He started at Reading, then Hockenheim, who were subsequently willing to let him go out on loan to Swansea, where he had a purple patch under Brendan Rogers, in a system of play that seemed to suit him. He built up quite a reputation for his free kick and corner delivery, and long range shooting. Although he looked decent, there is nothing to suggest that he is good enough to enhance a side with top 4 aspirations. In the transfer business you "win a few", and "lose a few", that's the nature of the beast. I would respectively suggest that on this occasion we got it wrong, but the frustrating thing is that we turned down the "get of jail card" offered by Reading in the window, and whats more with a £3M profit to boot. With the signing and promising start made by Holtby, and the presence of Dempsey, it is difficult to see how he can become anything but a bench warmer in the foreseeable future, and as such, given his fee and reputedly high wages, he appears to be an expensive luxury.

whether a levy buy or not, it was certainly AVBs call not to sell him in january. he sees him in training and he knows what he wants the team and squad to look like after the summer when he can make more transitions and what role siggy should play longer term. i think we should AVBs judgment on this. Siggy has shown some very decent moments, he can read the game very well and spot a pass, his dead ball delivery is far and away the best we have and once he gets one goal you fancy that more will follow quickly. I think he is an intelligent player with a lot of talent, my only qualms is that I think we overpaid on the wages front for someone who is not a sure starter, but we had to to beat liverpool to him and it's not his fault.

Was never as enthsused as some on here when he came, thought he was an MOTD player but I have given him teh benefit of the doubt. When he started more than Dempsey early in the season we were still gelling as team and were grafting out results and noone impressed. He was then dropped instead of Deuce and while the team has played better Dempsey has got his run of games. Whenever, Sig has come on though I think he has shown more than Dempsey, when it comes to creating and skill and his shooting however the luck has been going to Demps. Sig has had a clearance off the line, hit the bar and a great save made the other day. Any of those goes in his confidence improves and he starts. Dempsey however has scored two deflected shots and some tap ins. Fair play I think Dempsey has been decent but it shows how luck can have an impact. I think it would have been too rash to sell him in Jan so think we should reassess in the Summer.

I would like Sig to get game time ahead of Dempsey though in the future and try out a midfield 3 of Dembele Holtby and Sigurdsson. Dembele with Sandro were destroying most midfields, and I think Dembele has the tackling ability and strength to be a ballplaying DM as an opposed to an AM. Holtby has the energy and tenacity to also provide good defensive cover and I think those 3 would have enough about them to both create score and defend sufficiently. Parker makes no more challenges than Demebele so we might as well have a better ball player there. Lloris barely has a save to make, so I think we can afford to risk not playing Parker and he can be used to shore up our defense in the later stages or Livermore. Man utd do not play with a traditional DM with Carrick and Arsenal play Arteta there. I think having Sandro here and Parker somewhat we've been spoiled by having an out and out class DM and I think as a DM they (def Sandro) would get into any team in the prem. But they are not essential.

Lastly I dont know how more people are willing to give Sig a chance and the benefit of the doubt yet slag of Livermore and players like Kane. COYS

Don't understand why we didn't sell, don't see a future for him with holtby, Dempsey and even bale higher up the pecking order in us position

Topho - The ability to shoot from distance, dead ball specialist and eye for the through ball mostly. Perhaps you thought I meant he could pick it up and run with it? If his direct competitors are Dempsey and Holtby they are all a little different don't you think?

The only issue that I have with playing Holtby rather than Dempsey is that Dempsey can drift out to the left when Bale comes inside. Bale seems to be spending more time there than on the wing and who can argue that he hasn't been successful?

Alright lads calm down, i said on what we are building. Modric took a season or two to settle before we saw his true potential, same with Bale it took time. All im saying is with Siggy, Holtby and Caulker coming through, with Naughton and walker still progressing, Rose on loan to Sunderland and Falque on loan, we have a bunch of talented players that are improving. I feel we are building for the future. I feel we have a sqaud that can compete. For those that think Siggy is a sqaud player..we can select the same 11 every game and if we qualify for CL well I will be the first to point out to the doubters he is not a Jenas.

It's just that the attention has gone to other players, not surprising with a new manager, new system and the signing of several other good players in transfer windows summer and winter. Siggy has got something. If he gets the games, he'll deliver. He may get to play more in the Europa League matches approaching but should also be given opportunities as the season moves through its most intense period and when tiredness and injuries hit all squads. And Mickeys1969 is right to remind others here the way that Bale was getting discounted, being regarded as a jinx and all that nonsense, and 'sell him and get a better player' was written by people with little patience and not much idea. It is next season that looks like it will keep Spurs squad plenty busy as it copes with more challenging competition, and Siggy ought to be in there, playing.