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Kings of North London?

Kings of North London?

Potentially, seven points clear on Sunday and for many, Spurs have the better team and squad, but at what point are we really No1 in North London, with the footballing world?

Such is my feeling of Tottenham team domination, that I would only see Wiltshere as a definite starter in a combined team, though I'm sure that there are arguments over the likes of Walcott and Carzola, but at this time, is there anyone else that is a serious contender? You feel that Arsenal are still declining slowly, but surely, but Spurs seem to go marchin' on, as the famous song states. Talk of spending £70m and having £123m in the bank, is all well and good, but there are so many hole's to fill, that you feel that would be the minimum requirement and even then, revamping a side is no guarantee of a fix, especially with Wenger's recent record of buying.

I have said for some time, that Wenger has got too obsessed with the beautiful player and forgotten that every team needs a bit of ugly and nasty and though his side have the quality to beat almost anyone on the game, even that is a declining statement, because a couple of years ago, you knew they had the ability to beat anyone, not almost all. Bayern taught them a football lesson, but you do feel that Wenger has built a side that would have struggled to have got past any of the last sixteen in the CL. Something that was again, expected in previous seasons, unless they were drawn against the very best. In all honesty, I'm not claiming that Tottenham would have done better, but just considering that we could have faired equally, is a statement that the gap between the rivals has not just closed, but is increasingly opening the other way.

Up to this season, it was difficult to claim that Spurs were now the top team in North London, as even in perhaps having the better team on paper and also perhaps having the upper hand on recent results. Arsenal still finished above us last season, whilst they also hit us for another five goals in winning at the Emirates in November. Sure we can claim a Harry induced capitulation or an Adebayor blamed red card, however the facts are in black and white, and even a convincing win this Sunday, wont yet cement us as top dogs, only stealing their top four spot at the end of the season will give us that initiative, but for the long term, you still feel we have to do it season upon season and see out neighbours suffer, as we have for so long.

It may well be that until Spurs have a new stadium, continued superiority over Arsenal in the league, silverware and CL qualification that we can actually say we are now the Kings of North London, but currently I am happy just to enjoy the moment and keep my powder dry for the time when I feel that we hold the upper hand over a sustained period. All too often have we felt that we were the better, only to fall flat on our faces, as somehow they nicked glory, and given us more failure and frustration, but maybe, just maybe, this is the weekend and season, when we at least get the upper hand and if not secure an unquestioned No1 status, at least prove we hold the initiative and look the most likely to steal the crown...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Wednesday February 27 2013
Time: 9:09AM

Comments

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Not yet, but we'll no in short order whether we've finally got our noses in front. As for being kings, we definitely need several seasons of tangible superiority before we start crowing about anything like that.
darkenvai
27/02/2013 09:19:00
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err, know
darkenvai
27/02/2013 09:20:00
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A lot of our players will need to up the game on Sunday if we want all 3 points. I personally believe Arsenal's weakness if their GK. So many pundits rate him, yet I believe he was errors in him every game. AVB needs to make sure everyone's head is in the right frame of mind too. No stupid Ade moments
yiddyboy
27/02/2013 09:21:00
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Now dont get me wrong here, im very happy with our results and position in the table and the strong minded why we dont give up but,we are not playing well, giving away the ball too much and speed of attack seams to be slower, but when i watched the wet spam match time and time again Parks and dem hold on to the ball too long, there was no quick release, or do i want too much,coys
spurs50yrs
27/02/2013 09:24:00
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No spurs50yes. It is true. Too many pirouettes from parker and Dembele. Not enough give and go. Would be great to see carroll or Holtby in there, but saying that it is difficult to change a winning team, so I wouldn't do it just yet. AvB has some tough selections to make on Sunday
RealDanger
27/02/2013 09:30:00
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Its really about being top dogs in London, not North London. Spurs Arsenal and Chelsea are locked in a struggle that could end with them finishing in any order. On paper Chelsea look to have the best squad, but that Abramovich factor seems to be undermining the manager once more. Arsenal look decent going forward while weak in defence. We are much stronger at the back but have limited options up front. If I was looking at Arsenal players who might get into our team I would mention Giroud, seemingly not rated by many Arsenal fans but a much more convincing centre forward than Adebeyor this season. We have two advantages in this run in. The first is obviously Bale, lets hope he keeps playing like this until the end of the season. The second is the manager, AVB seems to have added a level of organisation and mental toughness that hasn't been there in the past. Sunday will make things a lot clearer. Lose and Arsenal have virtually caught us. Win and we are seven points clear, they are under severe pressure with a game against Everton up next.
jod
27/02/2013 09:33:00
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On a slightly tangential note, I doubt with increasing intensity that Inter Milan will be stopping us on our way to European success - and Kingofnorthlondonship. They have lost Milito to injury and are looking to replace him with John Carew. The future's bright, it's Lilywhite.
darkenvai
27/02/2013 09:34:00
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Can anybody tell me why Vertonghen played LB, and is lennon tired or just a bad game, because i think hes playing hes best football this year and hes tracking back has been a delight to see, coys
spurs50yrs
27/02/2013 09:38:00
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We cannot say we are kings of North London until the final day of the season. However, should we finish top 4 and Arsenal not, we will see a sea-change in the superiority stakes. In the early 90s when the TV money started pouring in, Arsenal and Man United were the two teams who took advantage; pouring money into stadiums and players and reaping the rewards almost instantly. Its taken oligarchs millions from City and Chelsea to even try and compete, and financial prudence and a lot of nouse from Levy to get us even mentioned in the same breath. But with the additional Sky money, the decline of the game financially in Italy, Holland and France to name but a few, the financial meltdown of everyone bar the top two in Spain, finishing in the CL places this term would see us right for the next five to ten years. It's imperative. This season is THE turning point in European football. We either go with the European elite, or we get left behind. Win on Sunday and I think we are almost there.
Sebthespur
27/02/2013 09:40:00
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Personally I don't like all this bs talk about bragging rights and kings of north london based on one game. As often before much has been said about our superiority but it has yet to materialise on the permanent solid basis. Bale couldn't resist but opened his mouth yet again. What for? Do it AFTER the match. Why deliberately set yourself up for ridicule if things go wrong in one particular game? And this is how it should be approached. One game at a time - do NOT underestimate le arse. All these "none of their players would fit in our squad" talk is paper only. Some fans have a short memory: 5:2, anyone? I agree when someone said here we should up our game. Winning over scum convincingly and emphatically should be a crushing blow for them at a right time. So I would say go for it, lads. Take this match seriously and produce a fine effort of self-commitment, concentration and discipline. And like I said before I expect a brilliant individual performances from certain players. Adebayor should redeem himself for the first derby and indeed the whole season.
Moscovite
27/02/2013 09:47:00
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We'd need to finish above them more than once to be able to claim supremacy. If we do it this year and they miss out on CL football it could be the catalyst to spark it all. Look at Liverpool now as a case in point. Since they missed out in 09/10 they've been nowhere, and only now showing signs of recovery. Spurs have treated CL football as a bonus (out of necessity) and can cope without it and maintain our level and still improve. Liverpool obviously couldn't; if arsenal miss out we will see if they can.
Yorkspur
27/02/2013 09:48:00
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I truly believe Wenger has had his time. Admittedly, he had a golden period in the late 90's early 00's when his continental approach (diet, training etc) was new to England and that gave his team a competitive advantage. Credit to him for that. But i also believe he was lucky in other ways. He inherited George Graham's back four which he left alone (but for the addition of Judas) and since they all retired he has failed miserably to add steel and organisation to his defence over the last 7 or 8 years. He also got very lucky with Henry who almost single-handedly carried them through seasons (& many games against us) and Viera who were both bought cheap but turned out to be world beaters. His luck seems to have run-out in un-earthing world-beaters and he has proven he has no idea how to spend big money and he's too stubborn to do it anyway. They have not won a single trophy for now 8 years!! Although by default they have been superior to us because we haven't done anything either apart from the 1 League Cup in 2008. I'm hopeful times are changing for good this time. My instinct in the summer was Villas Boas had it, he just needed the support of the fans and the media monkey off his back. Above all else, we are a team, a squad, a club moving in the right direction over the long-term with a proper plan and a proper winning mentality. Winning really can have a snow-ball effect within a team environment. We are getting that now. The huge celebrations on the pitch between management/players and fans alike after the WHU and Lyon games said a lot to me. Compare that to the huge pressure Wenger is under and the dis-unity at Chelsea and its looking good. Keep it going. 3rd place in the league and automatic CL qualification for next season and a famous win in the UEFA Cup in Amsterdam in May please. Then we really can shove it up them! Still a long way to go but we have the spirit, know-how and mentality to do it. We'll see. I intend to enjoy it whatever happens.
StillRickyVilla
27/02/2013 09:51:00
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no not yet Kings. Arsenal have had the hex over us for years now. never worse than the time when they leapfrogged into 4th on the last of the season; or overtook us for 3rd last year. like a boxer doesn't win a fight with just one punch, it's not just about this game, or even finishing above them this season. we need consistency, staying power, ascendancy over a period 3-4 seasons - to be Kings. we need to not get altitude sickness at being in third place now, and we need to demonstrate a steel and determination and resilience that traditionally we haven't had at crucial junctures. maybe AVB is now instilling that power and unwillingness to budge - i hope so. if we continue as we have been doing, we'll finish third. COYS
paddyspur
27/02/2013 09:54:00
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I hate to admit it but Wiltshire and Corzola I would take in an instant. I'm hoping they have a crap game next Sunday! It’s hard to respect your main rivals…especially the gooners ha… but they have been up there for a while now. We can’t claim that title for this season until we have won a cup… or finished above them and the chavs.
SpursOne2
27/02/2013 09:55:00
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I wonder if AVB will keep Verts at LB, as Caulker and Daws did play really well the other night (despite conceding 2 goals). I think Lennon needs to up his game before Siggy gets a chance. Maybe the same could be said for Parker if Holbty and Demspey are both fit, with Dembele playing deeper...
mattspurs1982
27/02/2013 09:55:00
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Nice post jod!
SpursOne2
27/02/2013 09:55:00
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King of the North!...? when you play the game of thrones you win or you die! That's what we have to do this week - win! Arse have an easier run in if we lose we'll probably be the nearly men again..
shedboy2
27/02/2013 09:56:00
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Some balanced views by Spurs fans here. Oxfordspur, as I have said before, seeing which individuals from the two teams would be selected in a combined team is a highly subjective matter. If you dont think Cazorla is not better than Holtby or Sigursson or Vermaelen is not better than Gallas or Kaboul, or Giroud is not better than Ade, Bacary Sagna is not better than Caulker, Arteta is not better than Parker or Sandro, Walcott is not better than Lennon then it is your view and many Arsenal fans would beg to differ.
Deltaforce
27/02/2013 09:57:00
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We beat the Arsenal and Chelsea lose. It's Christmas!!!!!
tottscotspur
27/02/2013 10:06:00
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Caluker is proving to be better than Sagna this term imo. I really rated him last season..on par with Walker. But he (and some say Walker) isn't performing like he did last season, maybe due to injury but even so. Giroud i rate but hes only been here 5 mins and hasn't Fully broke into the Arsenal 11 has he. Walcott is being used through the middle like Bale is at the moment for us, and he isn’t better than him. Kaboul has been out all season so you can’t use him! Arteta vs Sandro? No contest sorry. It’s all about opinion right…but you have to take into count that we have won more games this year, have and have racked up more points!. COYS.
SpursOne2
27/02/2013 10:09:00
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Spurs50, there appears to be a common misconception that we 'are not playing well' or we are 'getting results, but not the performances'. This is completely untrue. We are playing a controlled possession game. Dragging the opposition about. Knackering them out and strangling them! We are adapting our tactics and personel depending upon the opposition. We are practicing the details. We are planning properly for each game. We look a proper team now, a proper unit. Its slow, slow, quick, quick, slow football but with a massive cutting edge. Look at the amount of shots on target we get against most teams! We English continue to persist with this mentality that unless we are doing everything at 100 miles an hour and 'fighting for every lost cause' we are not playing well. That style of football is why we never won nothing since '66 but we never learn! And on top of all the preparation we have a proper winning mentality now. We need to create a snow-ball effect of success, a winning culture. Not picking and choosing competitions because we want to focus on earning CL money. That's not how it works. Look at how inspired the lads were on Monday night after the Lyon game. Imagine how inspired they would be next season if they went on to win a major Euro trophy! Better than simply throwing away matches to 'rest-up' or play cards around Spurs Lodge! Its a mentality that Man United have and Man City and Chelsea bought. We are a long-way from getting there but for the first time in years (ever?) i can see a method of what we are trying to do.
StillRickyVilla
27/02/2013 10:18:00
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Walker really needs to up his game against Podoldsky. And we need bale to play on the left because we will need either holtby or dempsey to work defensively in the middle. They have a good team and we shouldn't underestimate them. They have to win it, I hope we play compact and destroy them on the break. That said I fear once we are in front we will drop deep and concede.
RamsesV
27/02/2013 10:23:00
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I think (and I know it's all conjecture) that the combination of Spurs and Arsenals best elements would be dynamite. We (Bale aside) don't offer enough threat or variety going forward but are proving a tough nut to crack at the back. Whereas Arsenal look consistently vulnerable at the back but dangerous as hell up top. Giroud, Wiltshire, Cazorla, and Podolksi would all make it into our team in my opinion. I think the 5-2 this season flattered them hugely, as I believe we are the closest in terms of quality as we've been in my 30+ years as a Spurs supporter. And it's a bit of a toss-up as regards calling Sundays result. Heart says a good convincing win, head says a nervy draw. Deltaforce, excellent post by the way. Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!
LilyWhiteHart
27/02/2013 10:23:00
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This game is massive, biggest in recent North London history. Last year at their place our season was destroyed, not only did we lose but they won changing their confidence and momentum. As Shedboy said in these games you either win or die, time for AVB to make his name, 4 points from le scum and chelski games and we'll be the pride of London let alone just the north!!! COYSSSSS!!!!
T.H.F.Chris
27/02/2013 10:23:00
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Spurs50years I believe that AVB chose Verts at LB to give us the advantage in the air on Corners against Carroll. Because WH had no speed on the right that was ok and worked to nullify Carroll's threat on corners and free kicks. Against Arsenal he will likey revert to Daws and Verts at CB and BAE at left as BAE is faster than Verts and will have to stay on Walcott.
jvd
27/02/2013 10:27:00
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Is this the 3rd or 4th season we've had an article like this only to find us looking up the table come season end. 11 games left. Anything can happen.
Tottenham Hotcore
27/02/2013 10:28:00
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matt keeping verts against walcott would be suicidal
RamsesV
27/02/2013 10:29:00
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RamsesV, good point but if Walcott is through the middle he may not be facing verts. Last years BAE would be one of the first names on the team sheet. Still love him tho, he'll come good, but i wonder if he'll be just as much as a risk on current form. Cant remember who the scum play on their right if Walcott is thru the middle... Agree that Verts was vital for WH's ariel bombarment!
mattspurs1982
27/02/2013 10:36:00
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SRV, while I agree with you about the absurdity of the reigning conception that players need to be haring around or busting a gut in order to justify his or the team's effort and effectiveness, I don't agree that we are controlling games or winning with the comfort that your description of our playing style suggests. There's definitely team spirit and a will to win but there's a notable lack of cohesion in our play, and we've still to see any real consistency throughout 90 mins. The results are undeniable, the performances are still stuttering and unreliable. At the start of the season, I'd have happily settled for much less at this stage of the "project" but I don't think we should be getting ahead of ourselves and ignoring what's apparent.
darkenvai
27/02/2013 10:36:00
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Top post StillRickyVilla - You can luckily win a game or two but not weeks and weeks of the similar success. So many people comment on how much slower we are compared to last season, I for one can see the tactics that have been applied. You're spot on, we are dominating possession, having more shots etc..

The most improved thing is the mentality of the players, in the last few minutes of the game I'm normally biting my fingers praying we'll hang on, now we have a unit that has Fergie mentality written all over it. A "not over until the final whistle". I think the first few months of the season AVB was installing his philosophy, now the players understand and more importantly are applying it. It's a joy to watch us play 90+ minutes, rather than 70 minutes and then apply a backs to the wall approach and try to hang on.
yiddyboy
27/02/2013 10:39:00
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We must start as favorite's because we have a player called Gareth Bale! We are also the stronger team physically, but we are a long way from being called 'kings of North London', even if we win, because they have come above us, 12 ENIC seasons on the spin... If we can finally finish above them this season it will be wonderful, but no where from us being called kings of North London. Let's talk about that in a few seasons. Winning the Europa this season will also help big time, because they have won nothing for a long, long time...
pelebro
27/02/2013 10:42:00
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Pelebro, do you bang on about ENIC like this when chatting footie with your mates down the pub? If so, do you have any mates/teeth left?!
darkenvai
27/02/2013 10:47:00
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If I had a choice of losing to arse this week, but finishing third/ fourth at seasons end, I would happily accept the title of 'queen of nth London'...with all it's connotations...
van der haart lane
27/02/2013 10:49:00
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Darkenvai, i don't agree. I can see what is being implemented. It is controlled, effective, attacking football. Don't get me wrong, we are not 'there' yet (jeez we are only 6 months into what i hope is a long, long Villas-Boas era and we need 2 or 3 extra quality players at least to make things really work) but i can see what we are doing. It really depends on each game, each opposition and each circumstance. I believe we have the capacity to adapt to each given situation. Compared to a completely gung-ho, just run at 100 miles per hour for the entire 90 minutes style of football it may appear to the critic as a slightly stilted style of football. But then we run out of gas quickly, get picked off by more savvy opposition, there's no plan B and we won't ever win anything. It depends on what people want.
StillRickyVilla
27/02/2013 10:50:00
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We need a revolution before the coronation. This season should be viewed as the start of an era, until we win regular cups, challenge for the league and compete regularly abroad we haven't really achieved anything yet. I'm not trying to undermine our achievements so far, but there is still a hell of a lot of work to do, Arsenal have only made the job easier.
coys1717
27/02/2013 10:58:00
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on present form cazorla, wilshere and giroud would be definite starters, walcott or lennon would be pretty even although the former would have to accept the wing, vermaelen is ahead of vertonghen in the belgian team, while i would kill to have options like podolwski and oxlaide-chamberlain on the bench right now. they still have plenty of players who can hurt us, and lets face it we haven't finished above them once since wenger was there. the fact that they have sustained their dominance without spending is the worrying thing because they can spend a lot more than us and their financial position is just getting stronger as the emirates debt gets paid off. I don't anticipate being able to crown ourselves kings for a long time yet, I just really hope we beat them on sunday and finish above them for once
Guernman
27/02/2013 10:58:00
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Until we win the Prem a few times, make top 4 every season and take back our rightful place as FA Cup owners (who let other teams have a loan of it from time to time), then we don't even come close. I think we're the best club in the world, but it's got nothing to do what we've achieved on the pitch in recent decades, so I think bragging rights should wait a few years, eh?
DocHotspurs
27/02/2013 10:59:00
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SRV, I've got an inkling of what it is that AVB is aiming for too. I'm also amazed (and pleased as punch) that, after so little time in charge, we are playing football that is as effective as it is. But I'd still have to take issue with the controlled bit. There have been too many clingy on, last minute wins for comfort, and the margins of victory have rarely been wide enough to call anything we've done controlled or dominant.
darkenvai
27/02/2013 11:00:00
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Verts played against wet spam because his better in the air than BAE, saying that, had he tracked Joe Cole and tackled him in a more forceful way, the second goal could have been stopped. BAE will return at left back for this game as sure as eggs are eggs. Both sides hand in team selection at the same time, knowing if Giroud is up top or Walnut, will only become clear when AVB receive's the arse team. Respect them, don't fear them, others have got results against them, why can't we?
spu 4 life
27/02/2013 11:01:00
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Rumour mill Spurs turned down the bid from Anzi for Kaboul, but are in talks over Bentley, after receiving a bid from AZDA.
spu 4 life
27/02/2013 11:06:00
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I suppose we could see Corzola left or Right, Wenger keeps playing his team in all sorts of formats. Walcott started in the middle was pushed out on the right later in the game against Bayern, and they looked better for it (Walcott looked *****ed off ha). They have that option. With Wiltshire in they can pretty much swap all 3 around as they wish. AVB will know this! I think we can beat them with the quality we have though. Agree about Ekotto coming back into the team for this one, he does have more pace and will help going forward. And I wonder how Corzola will be initialized this time..he was pulling the strings from the middle in our last game but has not been used there recently?. Hope we can keep him snuffed in any case. Bale is also on fire and we need him on top form, if he is on the left then Ekotto can stay a little more disciplined. They haven’t met Holtby yet and Ade did score against them last time.
SpursOne2
27/02/2013 11:11:00
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Darkenvai, the comfortable, runaway victories will come as long as we stick to a process and properly plan for each game. Which we are doing. It will come. Just need a bit more quality of player in certain areas.
StillRickyVilla
27/02/2013 11:11:00
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The other thing is its not 'luck' when certain teams seem to win late on. We talk about Man Utd having this ability. Its not about winning 'comfortably' from the point of view of scoring 4 goals in the first half - although that would be nice! Its about sustained and controlled pressure until the opposition eventually concede through pressure, tiredness, mistakes or sheer amount of opportunities created. Both the Lyon and WHU games were great examples of a team pummelling the opposition for the entire 2nd halves until eventually something gave. Both victories were thoroughly deserved - it doesn't matter whether the decisive goal is scored in the 1st or 90th minutes!
StillRickyVilla
27/02/2013 11:18:00
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SRV, Yep, I can see it coming too. Sooner rather than later would be nice. If only for the sake of my ticker and incipient baldness!
darkenvai
27/02/2013 11:22:00
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SRV - not sure i agree with your regarding our master game plan. We're winning games at the moment due to the brilliance of Bale - not the genius master plan. Just my view...
mattspurs1982
27/02/2013 11:22:00
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Two or three discussions in one are going on here, so I'll try to deal with them as separate entities - and then join them as a summary. 1. Wilshere would walk into our team, Walcott would probably be better to have than Lennon - because he could wander and score more regularly. Our back four of Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen and BAE are more consistent, tho' on previous seasons Vermalen would replace Daws. LLoris any day for me. Sandro is a beast and a must. Bale walks in as does probably Defoe. Then you're left between Cazorla or Dembele further forward - probably Cazorla. 2. The Title Kings of North London is an annual election dictated simply by most points won - talk of stadium size, training facilities are somewhat irrelevant beside this point. 3. The relative mobility issues are as clear as day - the gap has been narrowed on a consistent basis over the last 6 years - just look at the league tables. 4. Our style of play has changed - it is more versatile - it is not all hell for leather pace - it also now has an element of patienece when the quick attack is not likely to be productive - more likely speculative. Modric would have been brilliant in this style - but he has gone. Given the change that took place at the club up to deadline day, the team has adapted and integrated very well - and the credit for that should be the managers. It is easy to say that we need to spend money on a striker and creative midfielder/winger - I agree! I am however happy to wait for the right player for 5 months than end up with the likes of Saha, Nielson, Raziak or another Bentley.
scoops50
27/02/2013 11:24:00
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Mattspurs, yep and that is the typical media opinion trotted out on crap like Talksport. It is a media misconception. It is the cumulatative effect of team-play that wins games. It doesn't matter where the decisive goal comes from. Caulker could have had a hat-trick of headers, Ade had an open-goal, Siggy hit the post and Bale had 2 great long-range efforts, one tipped over, one went in. There were other opportunities for others. I think 20 odd shots on goal? Bale happens to have been the man who hit the net in the last few games but the team performance is the decisive thing.
StillRickyVilla
27/02/2013 11:29:00
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I have to agree with Matt there. I think that the fact that we are not conceding (very much) is down to the master plan. Bale's good form is certainly bringing us goals, but whereas he was provider and scorer previously, now he is almost exclusively scorer. The plan can't be that we allow one player to score practically all of our goals.
darkenvai
27/02/2013 11:29:00
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SRV - good point mate, yeah see where your coming from.
mattspurs1982
27/02/2013 11:32:00
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darkenvai, Of course I chat on about ENIC down the pub. And Ive still got all my teeth! You see, the vast majority of Tottenham fans have the same feeling as me about ENIC, having the worst trophy per season percentage of any THFC owners in over half a century, and ENIC's total failure to seat 30,000 (plus) loyal Spurs fans on the THFC season ticket waiting list. They are also totally aware that a 60 million investment into AVB's team instead of the possible 60 million sale of our star player Gareth Bale in the summer could turn us into Premiership champions! Success starts at the top, and our vastly rich owners, Lewis/Ashcroft/Levy (close to 5 billion quids worth) are just a small investment away from some long overdue success... Will ENIC take the 60 million plus million on offer for Bale this summer, or keep Bale and INVEST 60 million in AVB's team? This question is of vital significance to the history of THFC. Finally compete for the Premiership title, or will it be yet another 2 steps forward 3 steps backwards ENIC trick??? Interesting THFC debate, don't you think???
pelebro
27/02/2013 11:32:00
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Pelebro, did you really think that I/anyone wanted a recap?
darkenvai
27/02/2013 11:34:00
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I seriously don't like the confidence being shown by our fans. It never ends well.
wiltshirespur
27/02/2013 11:35:00
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I agree with posters on here... spurs have to win cups and league titles & CL qualification (and play in it !) every year for min 3 years, more likely 5 years.. to be considered kings of North London. I really hope this is now going to happen... AVB is doing the job Levy asked him to do... COYS..
Block D Spurs
27/02/2013 11:39:00
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Wiltshire, we just need to enjoy the ride for what it is. At the end of the day you are right, this is football, and it is NOT an exact science and things can happen outside anybody's control. I'm just basking in the fact we appear to have players and a manager who are highly motivated to actually be with us for the long-term and make us successful. At the end of the day, that is good enough for me and i am willing to support them through the inevitable ups and downs along the way!
StillRickyVilla
27/02/2013 11:42:00
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Anyone have an opinion on how many points it will take to finish fourth. I think 71 or 72pts. Six wins and two draws, or seven wins, out of 11 games. Gonna be close.
asherthesmasher
27/02/2013 11:43:00
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Wiltshirespurs -agree, "mind the gap" came back to bite us on the a$$!!
mattspurs1982
27/02/2013 11:44:00
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darkenvai, just thought I'd explain why Ive still got all me 'pearly whites'... ;-)
pelebro
27/02/2013 11:44:00
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Yes, it's time to Become the Crowing Cockeral of N' London.....if not the whole of London ! If we show the same "Intent" as at westwham....then dare i say...i see a spurs win sunday ;-)
82spursdebut
27/02/2013 11:46:00
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Shedboy-U watch Games of Thrones eh mate?I'd say wait till the end of the season and happily self declare Kings of London at least for this season And yeah Cazorla,Wilshere,Giroud and Walnut would walk into our teamsheet!
SilwalYid
27/02/2013 11:46:00
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The run away victories win come with better quality in the team. A better striker, a better right winger, and more creativity in central midfield. AVB is doing the best with what he has. The Scott Parker, Dembele pairing is a not good enough.
asherthesmasher
27/02/2013 11:49:00
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Mainly Scott Parker.
asherthesmasher
27/02/2013 11:51:00
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I prefer threesomes ;-).....Holtby, Dembele, Parker..........Vertonghen, Caulker, Dawson.....but i don't think Avb..does...lol
82spursdebut
27/02/2013 11:53:00
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Ye i prefer threesomes too, but not with any of that lot:).
asherthesmasher
27/02/2013 11:56:00
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asher - what u think about holtby doing the parker role and Dempsey / Siggy coming in?
mattspurs1982
27/02/2013 11:56:00
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siggy alongside Addy'....for me, for this one......helps to bring more energy to the front two. I see Defoe...is expected to make the subs bench......signs are good, for this one. But...football is a funny ole game....another rollercoaster me thinks...but...again 3-2 win for spurs.
82spursdebut
27/02/2013 12:00:00
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Well i have mentioned Holtby playing in central midfield. He is a classy little player, but having seen him a few times now, he is struggling to get up to speed with the PL. I thought this would happen from the off. He needs to be worked in gently and certainly not ready for CM. As it standing the Parker, Dembele pairing will have to do until the summer imo. Would think about starting Siggy next game if Dempsey is not fit.
asherthesmasher
27/02/2013 12:02:00
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I was calling for Parker to be taken off and Holtby going next to Dembele during a game on this site. But i don't think it would work all that well yet TBH.
asherthesmasher
27/02/2013 12:07:00
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I really hope so but it is 11 games too early to be making that prediction. If we are 4 points ahead with one game to go I will happily take the title for this year
Big Ron
27/02/2013 12:29:00
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Sigurdsson on his goal, the Arsenal game and CL ambitions http://www.london24.com/sport/tottenham/i_feel_10_stone_lighter_says_spurs_star_sigurdsson_1_1958581
SpursOne2
27/02/2013 12:32:00
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what i would love to see is gareth bale to stink the place out rotten and some of the other members step up to the mark and get us the 3 points luvly jubly
ghulamville
27/02/2013 12:39:00
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Let's decide this at the end of the season, experience tells even the thickest of us all that Arsenal finish above us most seasons. Well all in recent history. Last season was our best chance for years to change that but we fecked it up. This season could still go either way, we have a stronger defence but they have more QUALITY strength in depth in front of the defence, esp in midfield. This could be critical if injuries hit either of us. If we all stay together, we dont get injuries in midfield and one or two forwards hit form we could make top4. If either of these components fails then experince is probably going to be the key again. And lets not forget their run in is "easier" than ours, so actually I say we need not to lose more than they do on Sunday.
tophobunty
27/02/2013 12:55:00
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Let's decide this at the end of the season, experience tells even the thickest of us all that Arsenal finish above us most seasons. Well all in recent history. Last season was our best chance for years to change that but we fecked it up. This season could still go either way, we have a stronger defence but they have more QUALITY strength in depth in front of the defence, esp in midfield. This could be critical if injuries hit either of us. If we all stay together, we dont get injuries in midfield and one or two forwards hit form we could make top4. If either of these components fails then experince is probably going to be the key again. And lets not forget their run in is "easier" than ours, so actually I say we need not to lose more than they do on Sunday.
tophobunty
27/02/2013 12:56:00
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Honestly, I really don´t care if we are / will be Kings of North London or Kings of London at the end of this season. There are, for me, only 3 important issues today: 1) Win our next match 2) Finish 3rd even if Arsenal or Chelsea manage to finish 2nd so that we would avoid another nightmare or CL play-offs 3) What will Daniel Levy do next summer to keep Spurs as a top club ?? COYS !!!
AlexSpur
27/02/2013 12:58:00
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pelebro, you are constantly knocking ENIC and you talk about an ENIC trick. Please explain what benefit is there to ENIC if our club does not fulfill its true potential?
diddleDoo
27/02/2013 13:10:00
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pelebro, you are constantly knocking ENIC and you talk about an ENIC trick. Please explain what benefit is there to ENIC if our club does not fulfill its true potential?
diddleDoo
27/02/2013 13:25:00
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