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Liverpool Vs. Tottenham Hotspur

This Premiership clash will be billed as the battle of the one man show; Suarez vs Bale.

Luis Suarez has scored four of Liverpool's last seven goals from open play. Stuart Downing told ESPN: 'Suarez must be a nightmare for defenders. He can be quiet in games and you've got to out of nothing. You saw that with his goals today, top quality finishes. He's been brilliant for us all season.' be on your toes at all times because he can score anything" We all know Bale`s record over this season so you can see the media hype starting already. Suarez form has now seen his pay go past £120,000.00 a week, over half a million a month not bad for a club whose owners (Fenway Sports Group) revealed accounts showing the club lost £40.5m in the 10 months to 31 May 2012!! 70% of that loss being players wages.

Liverpool have not beaten Spurs home or away since January 2010, when Dirk Kuyt scored twice at Anfield in a 2-0 win in 2010, in our last five meetings Liverpool have taken just one point from us.

Reading through the Liverpool Echo the other day to gauge the mood music in Merseyside for this match Jamie Carragher is urging the Liverpool supporters to turn out give it plenty on Sunday as Carragher feels that Spurs have had the "Indian sign" over Liverpool for too long. In reality Liverpool are playing for next season although their fans have a lingering hope still of a top 4 place but they will need a fantastic run-in to overhaul a 12 point deficit, especially as they have failed to take maximum points from any of the teams above them this season.

Liverpool 's nine goals in their past two wins have underscored by the two clean sheets. The signings of Daniel Sturridge and Philippe Coutinho have given Liverpool more options to win games. It has been said that if Suarez had an off day Liverpool would not win. The addition of Sturridge and Phillipe Coutinho playing along side "El Pistolero" means that Goals are back on tap so keeping a clean sheet this Sunday will be an achievement!

Liverpool`s last victims were a very average Wigan and I don`t think Swansea`s mind was exactly on the job either when they got stuffed 5-0 at Anfield the other week as they prepared for Wembley. So the visit of Tottenham will be considered a test for the Bin Dippers to see if they can beat teams above them not the so called "lesser" teams below them.

We now enter what has been described as a "season defining" set of games. Arsenal was the opener and we took care of them, Inter Milan was considered a real test but we out-muscled the Italian club on Thursday night and took one big step toward the last 16.

So! Back to the Premiership! Liverpool will be a lot tougher. One thing is for sure Liverpool will not be sitting back and letting us come on to them they will be in our faces from the start. Liverpool are much better organised, and they will attack Spurs in waves. The first 20 minutes on Sunday will be key, it will be a typical Liverpool game where Liverpool go for us right from the start to try and get an early goal. They will look for spaces in front of our back four and try and play slide balls through the channels for Suarez to get on to the end of. I think they know we have the height at the back to beat an aerial attack so I am not expecting long balls in from Gerard or too many crosses from the wide areas. Gerrard has 13 assists to his name this season. I expect a lot of their attack to be played on the ground and shots coming in from outside the box. Jose Enrique has silenced his critics with his recent form and their back four is now looking more solid.

Liverpool will probably also have a strategy for Bale as they have not had a game since Wigan and will probably have worked on how to keep Bale quiet during their week off. Brendan Rodgers will be thinking stop Bale and you stop Tottenham so they will hope that Liverpool`s organisational set up will take care of Bale.

Whoever AVB chooses as the CB pairing on Sunday they had better keep it very tight because Suarez will be in and around our 18 and 6 yard box on every opportunity. Dembele will probably have to play deeper and take more of a DM role with Parker to protect the back four. I expect Daws to pair with Vert and BAE and Walker to close down the wings.

Liverpool will be without Borini or Jones but Sturridge and Kelly will be available. Adebyour will be fit but Dempsey is still a doubt. The worst bit of news is Aaron "Turbo Man" Lennon is a doubt for Sunday's Barclays Premier League game at Liverpool after suffering a hamstring injury during Thursday night's win over Inter Milan. Lennon covered every blade of grass against Inter. Losing Lennon at this point of the season will have an influence on how we play the next few games until he is fit again.

Siggy is starting to come into form and could take the Lennon role, with maybe Bale going to the left which means we could bring Ade up front with Defoe in the hole. Holtby is making me more nervous every time I see him and does not look like a player for this type of game.

We are in for a battle on Sunday and it may mean grinding out a result. We need to break up Liverpool`s passing game which means someone cutting off the supply coming from Gerrard and making sure we do not give Suarez space. Although we dominated most of the games against Inter and Scum we still had lapses of concentration where they got in behind us. Suarez will be waiting for those moments and I can`t see him squandering the kind of chances we have been giving out recently.

The question is where are Liverpool`s weaknesses and can we exploit them and how does AVB set us up against a team that is going to attack us from the off. It will be a high intensity game with Liverpool looking to dominate possession and restrict the game to our own 3rd which may mean us catching them on the break. A few free kicks in and around their 18 yard box for Bale would be handy especially if we have to use set pieces to get a chance for a shot on goal.

12 Premier games without defeat and this one is number 13! Get a result from this game and its Fulham at home and Swansea away for the rest of March!




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Date:Saturday March 9 2013

Time: 10:07AM

Your Comments

A win here will be another massive statement! COYS!!
oxfordspur
The odds seem to be against Spurs for this one which baffles me. Then again we always knew that one Spurs side would turn up diff each week. As for Liverpool do they really offer such a great threat? from what I remember the previous matches against them we simply played a slow steady game with very little between the teams. They got in our faces once in the last 4 and lost 2 or 3 players with silly challenges. I dont fear Liverpool and I believe we have a team who can dominate and frustrate the hell out of them. I will be dissapointed with a loss and tbh I see a 1 nil win for us.
Mix26
On their day Liverpool can beat anyone, however, who is under the most pressure of the two teams? Liverpool will be *****ting themselves at the idea of missing out on Europe and a defeat here will add real likelihood to that happening. Spurs could lose the game and still be in the top four, four points clear of Arsenal
oxfordspur
When Liverpool have the combination of Sturridge & Suarez up front, I do fear them. Without the pair, they are a far weaker side. With them both, they are capable of destroying anyone. Add to that, the eternal threat of Gerrard, and the running of Johnson, Enrique and others, it could be a tough match....
TonyRich
MF is going to be a hell of a battle all right aand I hope dembele/parker are on form. Should be a good game. Going by our consistency we should be confident of a point. We know how to play the big games.
ardone
Just as well that cosy chat with vital Liverpool was in type, you can never understand what they say, learn to talk scouse, fill your mouth with water and begin your lesson by saying Steve G, over and over until you run out of water. This game is as much a test for them as it is for us being away, if and i'm certain we will go about it in the right way, coming away with all three points and maintaining our progress. Wonder if Parker remembers the kick in the guts from Suarez, this could end up 3-2 to us.
spu 4 life
hahahahahahahahahahahah s4l!!!
Mix26
Had a nasty vibe about this game for a while, and I just can't shake it. Hope the Spider-sense is wrong! It will be interesting to see how we reshuffle if Lennon is out. Funny how we seem to be overloaded with left footers at the moment ... However, Holtby looks a pretty versatile sort, so he the nod for me. COYS
SpursEagle
I think a point would be a good result at Anfield. We are without Lennon and Adebayor (won't be missed), and we are coming off a game on Thursday, they have had a week off. Their front two of Suarez and Sturridge can hurt anybody, so a draw as I say will be a decent result, we have potentially easier games than this to come.
Frank
If we were to win it would really pi$$ both Chelsea and Arsenal off. Chelsea in the FA cup, and Arsenal not playing this weekend, they would be 5 and 10 points behind before they could affect the situation,
Frank
Would be really confident if lennon and atleast 1 of adebayor/dempsey were fit. Atleast lucas is out because he picked up 10 bookings. Joe Allen will be marking Bale if he plays CAM again.COYS!
SpursSnM
i was confident before the games against the scum, and then against Inter....

im not so confident this week. And without Lennon i think we may struggle..

lets hope not... coys
Yidmarks
and i had 3-0 spurs against Inter.. wehhey..
Yidmarks
this will be very tough as sturridge is back for this game. is lucas really out? thats something. although I love dawson he does worry me against players like suarez. we are going to drop points at some time, and when liverpool turn up they have proven to be much more prolific than us. A win and we will get fourth minimum I think, but I would definitely take a draw, especially without lennon
Guernman
Every remaining game is going to be tough. Liverpool are in good form. That said, they are in the table where they are because they have issues. Their defence is not that great. Reina does not move like he used to. They do depend upon Gerrard more than Suarez. It is no shock that their better results have come since he got healthy.

Lennon is a massive loss but we have players who can fill in. I would not play Adebayor. I am not Defoe's biggest fan. That said, he has been very lively since coming back, is hungry and looks very dangerous with Bale tucked in behind. Sigurdsson has looked very good on the left and I would not change that. That means Holtby will be asked to play out of position or we let the two Kyles, who are familiar with each other, to rule the roost on the right. Dembele could play right but he and Parker must be in the middle. Has to be Vertonghen and Dawson in the middle with Lloris needing to be on his "A" game. BAE and Walker out wide.

Here's a thought though out of left field, Kaboul on the right to recreate the moves he put on City to get us CL the first time round. That would be my move. Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, BAE, Parker, Dembele, Sigurdsson, Bale, Kaboul, Defoe with Adebayor, Holtby, Livermore, Gallas ready to come on if need be.

We can beat any team. So can Liverpool. They are at home. It's hardly advantage us, but then I believe every game can be won with the correct game plan. Looking forward to a great match which will leave us with third place in our control regardless of the result. As Frank said, a draw would be an excellent result. A win will take Liverpool and Everton out of any contention with us and heap loads of pressure on Arsenal and Chelsea. COYS
peterballb
Peter - Why do you persist in this incorrect statement that 3rd is in our control regardless of the result?? I have corrected you twice on it and still you persist. Is simple mathematics beyond you?? If we draw or lose and Chelsea win, we are back to 4th, how then would 3rd be in our control?? FFS go back to school and learn elementary mathematics.
Hot_Spur
I do not like the tone of the build up to this game, in the media, everywhere. I'm not happy about tomorrow for some reason I can't put my finger on, whether it's just a bad vibe or what, I don't know, but I'm not confident. Not confident at all.

Spuds-U-Like
I have to say to Oyveh Maria, you've been writing some fantastic stuff for these matches, big big props and I think Ox owes you a round or two!
tengboon
I'm feeling quite comfortable about tomorrow. Liverpool can be absolutely brilliant but the harsh reality for them is that they are going to have to be at their brilliant best to beat us tomorrow. I can't see that happening. A draw is a possibility and one I wouldn't be too disappointed by but I think we could get all 3 points tomorrow.
SpuriousLife
As a brief aside I spoke with a couple of friends who are Inter fans and we're over for the match earlier this week. They said our fans were brilliant, friendly and welcoming. They said they haven't felt that welcome or safe anywhere else around Europe so a big pat on the back for our fans. It looks like our reputation on the pitch and in the stands is growing. They also said that whilst they played poorly they haven't been given a footballing lesson like the one they got on Thursday for a long time!
SpuriousLife
Hot_Spur to take you back to basic math, a win against Chelsea when we play them still sees us finish ahead of them so long as we match their other results. Now argue away using whatever bogus math you wish. Fact remains, we control our own destiny for third regardless of the result tomorrow. And since Chelsea's fixture list is a mess, I'll be looking for a draw for them tomorrow in the Cup. Such a result though won't have any bearing on the basic math though. COYS
peterballb
Of course if we match, or near match Chelsea's results, and then beat them in our outstanding fixture then job done, I totally agree with Peter it is in our hands, we are in control of it, 3rd place is ours to lose.
Frank
Have just watched Everton get stuffed 3-0 in the Fa Cup, they were absolutely terrible, they wouldn't have scored if they played till Wednesday.
Frank
Frank, Everton just don't have a squad capable of rotation. It will remain their achilles heel until they rectify that. Injuries and fatigue decimate them at some point every season. I would hope their ownership will give Moyes some more funds given the extra 30M for the EPL that they will receive next season. COYS
peterballb
Very glad to see Townsend is playing. Also very encouraging that he is on the right today. He is proving himself to be very versatile and dependable. It bodes really well for us though I still expect as we'll see Pritchard and or McEvoy before too long (2-3 years). Townsend's ball control and decision making has come on leaps and bounds. COYS
peterballb
Peter - You are only considering one side of the equation. If we draw or lose and Chelsea win then we go back to 4th, that then means that it is Chelsea, not spurs, that has the advantage and has control of the situation.
Hot_Spur
When I look at the last 5 matches between us and Liverpool I feel good (4wins 1 Draw). When I look at their last 5 matches I get worried. I know Wigan were crap (I saw the match, they were) and Swansea played their 2nd eleven against them. But all in all I really expect AVB to have a strong game plan and the tactics to limit their opportunities, so I have a confidence we can win. Will be a very tough game though!
jvd
Hot_Spur, nothing you say takes away from the fact that third is in our control regardless of this weekend's result. Every team tries to win every time out, thus I am fully aware of the situation. Does not change that third remains in our control, win, lose or draw against Liverpool. A win is what AVB and the lads will be planning and that obviously makes things better and ramps up the pressure on Arsenal and Chelsea.

Very happy with the performance by Townsend today. Three or four excellent passes/crosses. Looks far superior to Hoilett. Remy looks pretty good too. If they go down, he might be worth a punt though Weimann and Benteke from Villa might be even better. The way teams have irresponsibly (IMO) spent, there will be lots of talent available at year's end. And how much does anyone think Chelsea would demand for Lukaku? Why buy and pay Ba when you have Lukaku already. Makes no sense to me. COYS
peterballb
Peter - I disagree, if they are 3rd and we are 4th, it is in THEIR power to stay in third. The team with the advantage of a higher position has it in THEIR control to stay there.
Hot_Spur
NICE little battle between Rose and Townsend...who will end on top? Townsend to me.
dcruzer
Sweet Townsend Goal!!!!
dcruzer
who was that monkey i had the flit with on here the other week he saying Townsend not good enough...why is he helping keep them up and not us top 4? looks stranger now esp if Lennon is not fit and we lose sunday
tophobunty
Oh my Harry has brought on Jenas... Should of left Remy on.
Fanman
I can't believe Jenas just fed me humble pie. What a goal...! Why could he never do that for us?
Fanman
Spurs saving Harry, you couldn't make it up. I'll be happy for him if they stay up.
Fanman
Sorry I just had to comment Townsend next season is surely gonna deputize bale and lennon in style!Now I am going to read the article and comments in peace!
SilwalYid
Fanman its about money not Redknapp, he was given a MASSIVE advantage over the clubs he is competing with, he will get all the credit if they stay up, but in reality with that adavntage you or of could have kept them up
tophobunty
wow, great performance from townsend, and a goal from jeans :) hot-spur, if we can mathematically reach third by winning our games and we don't have to rely on other teams to drop points, then it is in our control. the fact that chelsea would be the favourites to win the game at stamford bridge, along with the fact that third would also be in their control, is irrelevant
Guernman
Tophobounty, Townsend was not going to be chosen over Sigurdsson, Dempsey or even Holtby. He was not going to play in our setup. A loan was best. My worry was that he was not going to play with Harry. But he has and the time on the pitch has served him very well. He has taken the opportunity and has been one of their more dangerous players. Good on him and good on Harry. COYS
peterballb
Hot_Spur-Peter is right and Win,Lose or draw against the Pools,3rd is ours to lose!
SilwalYid
Btw we have to Win this game at any cost.Lose and We lose 3 points and I lose £500
SilwalYid
I find it hard to know exactly who is going to play and how we are going to set up. Last season it was easy, because Redknap's tactics were basic. Now we focus on our opponents as much as anything. Liverpool are not going to be much of a threat in the air. There attacking play are short. What we need to do is make sure they don't have much joy through the middle. The cover can come from the right and left of our midfield(Holtby and Sigurdson). Dembele and Parker need to be able to express themselves going forward as we don't have the same threat on the wings. They both seem to be clicking a bit lately and understanding when to push forward and stay but. We must keep Bale CAM with either Defoe and Ade up front. Liverpool focus very much on possession and as they are at home, we can expect them to have much of the ball. That won't be a problem as our organization and defense is solid. We will win this game much like we did against Arsenal, on the break, IF we play up to our recent standards.
asherthesmasher
BTW, our back line picks itself for this one. Dawson and Verts, BAE and Walker. Lloris of course.
asherthesmasher
asherthesmasher-You forgot to add that Dembele and Parker are also 100% sure starters at CM
SilwalYid
SilwalYid - If we draw or lose and Chelsea win, they go 3rd and we would be 4th, how the phuck can 3rd be "ours to lose" if we are 4th??? You talk crap.
Hot_Spur
Guernman - "The fact that 3rd is also in their control is irrelevant" ??? roflmao. Hardly irrelevant if they are 3rd then it's in their control to stay there, they would have the advantage and therefore more in THEIR control than ours.
Hot_Spur
Of course they are SilwalYid, who else would it be?
asherthesmasher
BTW, i am surprised Liverpool are clear favorites for this game. Anyone been on oddschecker?
asherthesmasher
Chill Hot_Spur, that's twice u call someone's comment "krap".....Fact is that Chelscum are more likely to crumble right now considering their recent performances...3rd is "ours to lose" is viewpoint that's a likely outcome due our team's confidence and desire to get there and more....PLUS, we can't all be negative everytime cause that rarely leads to our own good health. For that, we have to be positive-now more than before....
dcruzer
...You know what is a load of high quality rubbish is B Roger's comment suggesting Bale is as bad as Suarez, and that Suarez is unjustifiably vilified. He may have a point that Bale has dived, but that 's rarely the case cause of his speed. But Rogers is of the charts by saying poor Suarez is vilified without much reason. I have followed National S American teams, and by FAR most of the Uruguayans in the national team are nasty dirty mofos (except A Pereira, Cavani, & Forlan). They have no shame, they are thugs on the field, and, arguably, Suarez is the king mofo. Sure his skill and passion are admirable, but he is cynical and always makes classless moves against good players. And that can still be seen with his vile approaches to Evra and his stamp on Parker....So, yeah, Suarez is vilified with reason B Rogers...
dcruzer
lol great reading the comments ... the way i see it we are in 3rd it is ours to lose .. BUT if we lose tomorrow and chelsea win their game in hand and the go 3rd tiz will be theirs to lose ... thus its is ours to lose right now.. i think i just typed that as i was speaking to the under 11s i teach :/ right back to cooking
Dc_1986_spurs
Got to laugh at the Spurs fans constant obsession with Harry Redknapp
Let it go already
big cockeral
Topho, I don't know who the evil Townsend-bashing monkey you are referring to is, but I do know of a certain simian who was flinging his faeces in Sigurdsson's direction until recently. Pots. Kettles. Black and all that, eh?
darkenvai
Happy with the build up to this game, all talk is of Liverpool being odds on to win it. Which is good for spurs we can fly under the radar, Thursdays game was a stroll down the lane and should have very little impact on Sundays performance. Our defense has been our biggest assest and Bale is unstoppable (by legal means), so focus on him and forget about, siggy, Dembele, defoe and ignore parker's surging runs! Liverpool have played two teams with big eyes fixed on cup competitions and so racked up 9 goals thus must be a form team on fire? we have been unbeaten i aginst teams very much out to win those fixtures!. Swansea were a joke and wigan weren't much better. All this suits our prep for the game and will add to the weight of expectation on Liverpool. Spurs win all day long Liverpool are still too hit and miss!
Slurms McKenzie
I believe the main argument Rodgers was putting forward dcruzer, was that foreign players get poor treatment in England thus implying that the english media and the FA are themselves racist. Which is odd considering Bale is from a different country as well? Would have thought a lad from Northern Ireland would have been a bit more sensitive to national borders and the like!
Slurms McKenzie
Spurs are on their longest EVER unbeaten premiership run .

Surprised that hasn`t been mentioned .I would happily take a draw tomorrow as Liverpool & the brilliant Suarez are on fire .Suarez is to Liverpool what Bale is to us .One of those 2 will again steal the show ,Lennon out is a blessing in disguise ,brilliant on Thursday but his league form is poor ,could have been dropped anyway so may have done AVB a favour .
Adebayor to come in for the selfish & at best impact sub Defoe .Adebayor surely is due a good game by now .Siggy & Holtby to start alongside Bale Parker & Dembele in a need to be rock midfield .
big cockeral
Would be happy with a point, AVB is smart enough to know that for some games is most important not to loose and when you have the likes of Bale, Ade, Siggy, Dembele and Defoe you have every chance to get all three.

I would start with Bale on the left for this one, Siggy on the right, Holtby behind Ade. Keep it tight, hit them on the counter. Defoe to come on last 20 minutes. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
ItalianYiddo, I agree with your line-up, as starting Bale on the left, Siggy on the right and Holtby behind the striker gives us good balance, which is important. I wouldn't start Ade though, as he has been useless. Defoe is looking sharp and should be well up for it tomorrow.
Fanman
I see your point Fanman, Ade has been poor this season, but he is still more of a team player and will contribute more for this game. Had we been at home I would have started with Defoe.
ItalianYiddo
is our run to good to countinue, will we mess it up ourselfs, pool have been poor against the top sides. id take a point, but really pool are a poor team. coys
123spurs
@BC Got to laugh at the Spurs fans constant obsession with Harry Redknapp Let it go already, dont make the rest of us laugh, you have brought up the HR card more then anyone on here on the articles.
123spurs
No fracking way should we start Defoe. Sure we get his shots on goal, but lately he's off the mark. He's not a team player, simple as. He limits Bale and our other attacking players by hogging on the ball when inside the opposition area only to lose it in a sec, when instead he should enable others around him to add to the threat of our attack. Teams already expect this, so when Defoe is in the box all they do is focus on Defoe and our entire attack is fracking wasted. This happens over, and over, and over again....it's fracking OTL and enough. He should be used as a super-sub at best cause our tired boys can do enough to enable Defoe to exploit our opponent's tired defense. This is when a trigger happy Defoe can shot as many times as he wants, and eventually score....
dcruzer
hot-spur, elementary mathematics i think you said. If we can stay third by winning our games it is in our control. That's what people mean when they say it is in our hands. If we need other teams to drop points in matches where we are not involved then that is out of our hands. doesn't mean we are likely to win every game, doesn't mean we are likely to beat chelsea away, it does however mean it is in our control
Guernman
3rd is now ors to loose, an fecked up chelsea teaman poor arsenal, an we are hunky dory team if we dont pull this we have ourselvs to blame just like last season, we should be looking up at city not down coys
123spurs
Well, despite the apprehension amongst fellow Vitals, I am confident on this one!. My tuppance worth.....

Firstly, Spurs are on a roll, we have won the matches that many here were nervous about, i.e., Hammers, Arsenal, Inter. The team spirit and confidence are high. There is a swagger amongst many of our players, especially, Bale. The mentality is also getting stronger and a winning type. It’s time the fans started expressing the same confident and fearless views.

Secondly, as has been pointed out by others, the recent run of form of Liverpool is built on beating who????!!! LOL!. Remember they got turned over at Anfield by WBA, when ‘pool had all the possession and WBA scored three(or was it 2?) on the break!!!. We are more than capable of bringing them down to earth.

I seriously feel we will win this 3-1 as the spurs go marching on! COYS!

Hot_Spur et al, I wouldn't get too engrossed on the subject of 3rd is ours or theirs to lose at this point in time. These stats only come in to the fray near around the last 4 matches of the season. I can see some merits on both the arguments presented, but, imo, it's too early for the debate, suffice to say that irrevocably, the title is Man U's hands to lose!!
Critical_Spur
Hot_Spur, I agree with Critical in that it's too early to say third is ours to lose. However, even if we lose to Liverpool, winning all our remaining games will guarantee us third. So it's ours to lose if you will. Anyway, too many games still to go, and still expect lots of twists and turns and Spurs to finish second :)
In-spurs-ational
In-Spurs, that's more like it!. I like positive thinking....2nd is ours to lose!. COYS!
Critical_Spur
Critical_Spur, I'm actually thinking about winning the league! All we need is a good run and United to go into administration and therefore an automatic 10 point deduction. You know it makes sense
In-spurs-ational
Winning at Anfield never should be expected, but there's no reason that Spurs cannot win tomorrow. COYS. Dec. 9th fades into the distant past. I'll be thrilled with three points, and satisfied with one. Keep the unbeaten streak going.
Total knobhead
Stupid story of the day goes to http://www.sportsmole.co.uk/football/real-madrid/transfer-talk/news/real-madrid-to-offer-modric-for-bale_73377.html
In-spurs-ational
"Holtby is looking more nervous" - You base that on his 15 minutes against Inter I presume? You were saying how wonderful he was before this in his cameo performances, he is still getting settled but now he makes you more nervous?? shakes my head. Typical know nothing...
nomorewhlegends
The spurs go marching on will be sang tomorrow night ! We need the winning mentality that this spurs team have finally got. We will win! Sigi going on a big run until season end will be a big plus ! Ade as to turn up sometime so myebe another bonus.our luck changed when we got avb,as lukey as that was it will continue!come on avbS S purs
Little spur
Suprised with the amount of comments saying that a point would be a result - I'll be disappointed with a point tomorrow. I reckon its gonna be played at a frantic pace and there will be shots plenty, and so the best keeper will win the points - In Hugo I Trust :)
EASY AS_AVB
not sure why some are wanting bale on the left, when his current form is from a free role, let him play where he is happy and scoring. personally i think we will run over them, they have good results but we are not wigan or swansea. We controll games and wont allow them too. im thinking 3-1 spurs.
ng9-yid
Hot_Spur-You have to win the argument at all cost or what??Win,Lose or Draw if we win all our games this season(Which is merely possible) we finish third.Its not like Chelscum are not gonna drop any points!And being Optimistic doesnt hurt!
SilwalYid
Critical_Spur I hear what you are saying ... But, I have this irrational feeling that I just can't shake. You are talking a lot of sense but I feel it is just going to be one of those days. Maybe it's because we are now a scalp to take, maybe it's that this is game 13 of our unbeaten league run, and all the judeo Christian/Halloween film conditioning over the years has me all superstitious. Maybe it's because I remember the day we ended the 70 + year hoodoo we had at Anfield and will always always get a sinking feeling every time we go to that gaff. I can't fault your post at all, yet it has actually served to crank up the bad Joo-Joo that emanates to my bones about this fixture.

Good post though mate. COYS
SpursEagle
I am hardly a Defoe fan, yet, the movement a quality of play over the last two games has him starting ahead of Adebayor who has not earned anything. If Defoe gets on a run, we could be competing for 2nd. We need Deoe and nothing I have seen fro Adebayor suggests that he is ready to get in the game. For that reason lone, I would start Defoe in front of Bale even though I believe Defoe is an impact sub. Unfortunately the starter is not doing anthking. I'd rather Dempsey than Adebayor at this point. COYS
peterballb
Adebayor is unfairly underrated... he does alot more than people think. He just needs a goal or two to boost confidence.
gazzalegend
Defoe frustrates the hell out of me with his lack of passing... Ian Wright gave him advice that he should shoot at all times whenever ther's an opportunity but he sometimes takes it too far. His right foot is sweet but we really do need an established big name striker to boost the squad. It will give everyone a boost... i'd take Modric back! ha
gazzalegend
I have to say to Oyveh Maria, you've been writing some fantastic stuff for these matches, big big props and I think Ox owes you a round or two!
tengboon
Both Adebayor and Defoe do alot of hard work to free up space in the middle and out wide for our attacking mids and wingers to get good shots on goal. Yes, it's not conventional football, but we have a young forward-thinking manager who understands you have to change the game to get ahead. Thinking outside the box, so-to-speak. COYS
tengboon
I have to agree with the quality of the articles. It was only when I got to Bin Dippers that I thought, hey ho, this can't be Ox!
darkenvai
Oy Veh.. u have been writing decent articles.. keep it going.. :-) We are in good form in away games...so a 2-1 win for spurs. Bale to score again, suraez to score for bin dippers...
Block D Spurs
Defoe also had lessons from clive allen last season... a DVD of jimmy greaves goals... yet he is still greedy. When he does look up and around him as to our players, he passes effectively.. just need him to be more aware, therefore less greedy.
Block D Spurs
tengboon, I agree with what you're saying, it's just that sometimes I wish our strikers would think a little "inside" the box as well :)
In-spurs-ational
SpursEagle, you need cheering up mate. Here are some words from or inspirational leader. "Most of the players look at each other with pride and that's what makes a real difference. All of them see they are going in the same direction, towards achieving success. "That is what Jermain Defoe meant when he said everybody is on the same wavelength. All of the players are working for - and inspiring - each other." http://www.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/196842.html?CMP=OTC-RSS
In-spurs-ational
I would prefer to start with adebayor because I think that he is more likely to assist (literally) bale rather than impede him. having two players in the same area who will only shoot at every opportunity is one too many. i can accept it from bale because he is scoring, defoe's finishing is no way near his level though. We need one of our strikers to go on a run of form, but the team is much much better off if that one is adebayor for everything else he brings
Guernman
Firstly, Very well done to Young MR. Townsend. Another big game....and dare i say..we can just about afford to lose this one !! Predicting 2-2. That's 2 for Bale and 2 for Suarez !!!!...lol. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Defoe<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Bale<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< >>>Siggurdsen.....Dembele.....Parker........Walker<<<<<<<< ......................................................................................... ......Ekotto.....Vertonghen......Dawson.......naughton................ ...................................Lloris.............................................. Subs:Friedel,Gallas,Caulker,Livermore,Carroll,Holtby,Adebayor. "come on you spurs"
82spursdebut
Keep away from the bloopers and it will be all white on the night.
spu 4 life
Oyveh Maria, Thanks for all the interesting stats! Great read! And a big up to our former coach! The more local derbies next season the better! What has Harry done to JJ? Can't believe he scored that goal???
pelebro
In-Spurs-sational, well said, we could use some finishing quality inside the box
tengboon
Has it been confimed that Lennon's unfit to play today?
MAN ON!
Confirmed!
MAN ON!
Physio Room update indicates; Lennon, no return date; Ade 10th march; Dempsey 14th march; Hundredstone no return date;
spu 4 life
Cheers. Could be he's ok then.
MAN ON!
I think based on AVBs tendency to bring back injured players slowly coupled with his intricate preparation for each game, I doubt lennon will feature. best we can hope is that he is on the bench, but I doubt even that if he is in any way not fit. we need a fully recovered lennon asap, but we really don't want a mild hamstring problem getting worse
Guernman
In-spurs-ational the stories the tabloids concerning Gareth Bale are so laughable, it’s amazing journalists get paid to write such garbage, http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/gareth-bale-transfer-real-madrid-1753317
Marquispurs
Liverpool will score, but i think we will outscore them, I'll stick my neck out and go for 3:1 spurs
Marquispurs
You're probably right Guernman. Just my wishful thinking as he was fantastic against Arsenal and Inter, in attack and defensively.
MAN ON!
Dark, my opinion about Siggy has not changed and you wont change it, he can, only he can. I was at the game on Thursday and he tried hard, but to me again he often looked too slow being caught in possession a couple of times early on (my standards might be higher than yours? ).... and I would have looked good against them on Thursday. I was on a packed train away from Northumberland Park and all the talk was about how bad they were, not how great we were. We were ok to good early one but should have beat this lot 5-6. Ok he scored but he shouldnt have had a two yard tap in because Defoe should have scored. You cant sell him to me on that performance sorry. When he looks as good as Townsend has done, and i MEAN really create danger as often as Townsend does I will start to believe, but he isnt yet, dont get blinded by a tap in, my god you will be trying to sell me Dempsey next. And remember there are better players than Townsend out there, Siggy isn't one of them. PS i wasnt referring to you in that post as far as i can remember.
tophobunty
It would be no disgrace to lose this one so long as the level of performance is maintained. It will be a game of chances taken I feel so could go either way. JD to score the winner!
Love totty
100th post

Lloris
Walker,Dawson,Vertonghen,BAE
Siggy,Dembele,Parker,Holtby,
Bale,
Adebayor
Hoping for 2-1 to Spurs but i`d go for 1-1 or a winner by the ridiculously brilliant Suarez .May see our unbeaten run end today ,no complaints as the run has been quality ,but i expect Liverpool to be too strong for us today .
big cockeral
Sorry tophobunty but I have to disagree. Siggy was great against Inter. He was strong and all over the pitch. I agree, Inter were rubbish and we could/should have scored more. However I think we deserve credit for being compltely in control and making it an easy win.
MAN ON!
We need quick footed and quick minded defenders to deal with Suarez today. I would play Caulker alongside Vertonghen as CBs today. I think we'll have enough in our midfield to be too strong for them in the middle of the pitch and if Bale continues his current run we should score a few too. All in all it will be tough and tight but I think we will be too strong for them all over the pitch and eventually our class and power will tell. COYS!
SpuriousLife
spurious, agree the CBs need to be on form, I do worry that dawson will be the week link as liverpool will be attacking on the ground. when on form, dawson is the type of CB Suarez eats for breakfast. hope he proves me wrong
Guernman
Topho, I'm not trying to change your mind, and I'm quite happy for you to go on digging a hole for yourself with your appraisal of Siggy's worth in this most public of forums. Siggy's return to form isn't limited to that one tap in, as everyone but you seems prepared to accept. You'll have seen his assist in the same game, I imagine, as well as his assist in the Arsenal game and his goal in the West Ham game.
I know for a fact that you weren't referring to me in that post as I'm not given to ill-advised outbursts about our players. I'm happy to leave that up to you. I'm also very happy to see Townsend follow the trajectory that the two Kyles did into our first team.
darkenvai
Nice preview OyVeh, got my tastebuds tingling for today's game. I think we'll nick it by a goal, but should be a good, fast paced game. Fortunate no Lucas, so we could dominate centre of the park, though I still miss Sandro bullying opponents. @Hot-Spur - If we match their points, beat them and Utd win also we'll be above Citeh come end of the season!! Hard to run forward while looking back! To Dare Is To Do!
melloSPUR
Guernman.....I agree with you re Dawson, I know a lot would disagree but I would play Gallas for this one, he is deceptively quick over short distances and IMO would deal with Suarez more effectively. Whatever the result today I wont be complaining, a win would be great, I would take a draw cosidering their form and because our players had a tiring match on thursday while 'pool have had a week off but you certainly wont hear me berating the manager or players if our fantastic run comes to an end today.
TQ2Spurs
Marquispurs, thanks for the link, I needed a good laugh. My favourite bit was "The 23-year-old, however, increased fears among Spurs fans that he may be interested in joining Real by turning up to watch their Champions League clash against Manchester United at Old Trafford last week." News just in, Bale likes watching good football matches and can afford to go to them.
In-spurs-ational
So much jealousy about. How can people put Bale down and laud Suarez as some form of saintly reformed character. His diving is a disgrace. His lack of grace in other departments is at least as bad. Stamping, raking etc.
Bale, however, is British and worse still, plays for Spurs!
Hotspur 1882
the cretins have mucked up the tele scheduling-the match is on the same time as manure v chavs
ghulamville
at least if it isnt going too well we can watch the chavs gettin smashed
ghulamville
Tophobunty -- You make good points .But no question Siggy has improved ,hope that improvement carries on today but IMO ,Siggy should be sold in the summer ,he`s a mid table player at best .
Never understood gazumping Liverpool for a player of average quality
big cockeral
I really hope We win and and someone other than Bale(and Hopefully Suarez and Liverpool) make the Headlines!!
silwalyid
I am sensing a touch of over-optimism, the same as last season when after thrashing the barcodes we went to the Emirates with an attacking 4-4-2. Result a footballing lesson by Arsenal and the start of a downwards spiral. Just a reminder to everyone, had we got a point that day we would have been playing CL football this season. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
@ItalianYiddo - Ar2ena1 would have more goals scored last season keeping us in 4th. Needed 2 points to come 3rd. At home same goals scored & conceded, but they scored more away. I don't think it's over optimism, but confidence (longest Prem unbeaten run, great winning form...) Liverpool not beaten anyone above them this season. The fat lady ain't singing, but she's nearly finished her last of 6 KFC bargain buckets and has mouthwash at the ready :-) COYS!
melloSPUR
avb needs to stuff the midfield
ghulamville
A massive game and a win would be a very big statement. Cmon You Spurs!
noone
If both Lennon and Dembele are fit, I think we'll see the same lineup as against Arsenal with the exception of Defoe in for Ade. Lloris may well have to be our star player. Up the Lilywhites!
MAN ON!
I am hoping our great run has given us enough confidence to win this one, COYS ...........
krafty007
mello, Arsenal finished on 70 points us on 69. Had we taken a point we would have finished on 70 and them on 68. Am I wrong?
ItalianYiddo
melloSPUR...Didn't know Tommy H could sing!
MAN ON!
That's Huddlestone not Harmer!
MAN ON!
ItalianYiddo, got ya geezer. My mistake. Even more frustrating as we were 0-2 up! I agree that when players talk about beating this team and balance of power changing it can be seen as over confidence, but right now I think we need to ride the wave as each game is a cup final. Still 30 points to play for so a long way to go, but seeing as we're making steady progress I'd be hard pressed to see them winning, unless Suarez, Gerrard and Sturridge really look to take the game. What you think final score will be?
melloSPUR
MAN ON, that's cold. Hudd likes bargain buckets with his ketchup LOL
melloSPUR
Dark, only time will tell on this SIggy good or not debate between. For his sake I hope you are right, apart from that I dont care who's right or wrong, simply want what's best for spurs. BIGC agree he has improved and all power to him for that, long may it continue. But he had such a low starting point and like you I would have sold him in the summer. Like you also I do t fancy thus today with SUAREZ in their team, total total top top world class.
tophobunty
Referee Michael Oliver today
spu 4 life
links anyone?
YankeeSpur23
somone once told me Suarez, father freddy mercury, mother susan boyle, they also have another son he plays for man city nasri
spu 4 life
http://cricfree.tv/live/index.php
spu 4 life
http://www.footballstreaming.info/streams/todays-links/ coolsportz link is ok
spu 4 life
Don't forget uncle Modders...
MAN ON!
Team: Lloris, Walker, Dawson, Vertonghen, Assou-Ekotto, Parker, Livermore, Sigurdsson, Dembele, Bale & Defoe
In-spurs-ational
Subs today: Friedel, Naughton, Caulker, Gallas, Huddlestone, Carroll & Holtby
In-spurs-ational
Interesting game. Given no Lennon I'd say on the face of it 4-0 to Liverpool. But AVB has been proving me wrong for most of the season so I hope he can do it again today.COYS
Harry-Kari
And finally LFC team: Jones, Johnson, Enrique, Agger, Carragher, Lucas, Gerrard, Downing, Coutinho, Sturridge & Suarez
In-spurs-ational
So Lennon definitely out as well as Ade. Above teams from Spurs official twitter account
In-spurs-ational
Livermore is proper $hit ,how he gets anywhere near the team i`ll never know .I`m all for coming through the ranks but he`s not at this level ,Holtby or Hudd far better options .Livermore is of a poor standard & slows the game down far too much
big cockeral
Harry-Kari, Liverpool are strong now. Witn Livermore playing, I have us down for a heavy defeat.
Fanman
Harry-Kari on the bright side with the team Liverpool have put out, they will definitely look to attack us. Hopefully we can then get them on the counter.
In-spurs-ational
Harry-Kari, Have some hope!
MAN ON!
This line up is all about stopping them through the middle. I can see a very low scoring game now. Obv Holtby is having trouble finding his feet. If we nick it 1-0 then all would have went to plan, IF. Don't like Livermore either. Hope he can step up.
asherthesmasher
the liverpool team looks bloody strong now they are all fit. so lucas is playing too. is this the first time liverpool have had the chance to play coutinho, sturridge, suarez, gerrard and lucas together? I think we will do well to get anything from this game. hope I am wrong of course, but without adebayor, sandro, lennon and dempsey we are rather light.
Guernman
i smell fear but i don't understand it
Cape Town Spurs
Harry-Kari -- are you glass half empty or no fecking glass at all
Cape Town Spurs
cape town, the margins between us and liverpool are not so very great, both teams are on a good run of form, but liverpool have the slight advantage for me because they are at home and have their key players fit, whereas we are missing a few key players. if anyone can win us this game AVB can, but suarez against dawson fills me with concern. Liverpool have been more inconsistent then us which is why we are above them, but they are also far more prolific when they are on song than we have been all season. The game could go either way, but it will be a far far greater challenge then inter and west ham posed IMO
Guernman
I really hope we win though, it would cement fourth and ease the pressure
Guernman
a draw comes to mind....hoping for a win though....coymfs
rovinella62spurs
@Guernman -- I don't disagree with you, & I am certainly not one for getting cocky so let's see how it plays out. It just feels like many of our faithful have lost their faith and I don't know why because Stevie G, Luis 'Bee Gee' Suarez and the Mighty Bin-Dippers have not exactly been setting the world alight this season.
Cape Town Spurs
I mean this is not the Scouse of '79 -- they do ride on their coat tails though!
Cape Town Spurs
okay, going to get the kids bathed then park off with a frosty and watch the game. cheers all and COYS
Cape Town Spurs
I don't understand this team selection. Why not play Walker wide on the right and Naughton as right full back or the vice versa? At least this would have given us pace on the right wing. Now with Livermore being as slow as Dawson and probably twice as thick, we are set for thrashing.
Moscovite
like your optimism moscovite. fear, like courage, is contageous
Cape Town Spurs
i just don't want to jinx anything so tend to hope for the best but prepare to be disappointed. it would be no tragedy to lose but it would be so great to win :) it just looks like the dice have landed a little more favourably for liverpool today, but lets see how it pans out. we are setting up to frustrate them and hit on the counter attack. it could work, but if lennon were playing both plans would be more effective. I also think that sturridge and suarez are more likely to interact effectively than bale and defoe.
Guernman
Guernman, agreed. Bale and Defoe are both selfish players.
Fanman
Lennon is such a key player, i remember last year when we lost him our shape suffered and consequently our formed dipped. Including Livermore shows AVB Has gone for a cautious approach,i hopw we don't sit back and invite pressure.
spurfect one
I shouldn't pessimistic, but I can't help it. Livermore just doesn't fill me with confidence.
Fanman
i thilnk we will be to confiddent and loose this one, but most important is that we bounce bak
123spurs
In-Spurs-sational, well said, we could use some finishing quality inside the box
tengboon
Dembele in an advanced position!
SilwalYid
AVB must be really unhappy with Holtby to give Livermore a start over him
tengboon
Livermore's first touch is a straight pass to the Liverpool player. Nice.
Moscovite
Need to change it now! We are going to get mullard with Parker and Livermore in midfield!
hudderspur
Only just realised we are starting with livermore, jesus.....
spursnoob
Damn we look narrow without Lennon.
HuddersfieldYiddo
Dembele showed great skill there, sublime!
HuddersfieldYiddo
Livermore, is this a joke? Dembele on the right? Is Pikey still picking the side? Well let's see how this goes.
tophobunty
Hes playing Jake so he can push Dembele further forward, so far so good Dembeles been our best player.
HuddersfieldYiddo
missing leenon big time today, you can easily see it already
123spurs
why cant walker cross the ball
123spurs
Its 3 IN THE MORNING! I have to crazy, oh wait I'm a Spurs fan it's too late! Afternoon you lot.
Underspur
I think Holtby will come on in second half and dembele push back with parker. The reasoning is that liverpool are very strong in the first half, not as much in the second so I suppose AVB is thinking tire them out in the first and go for it in the second when we are typically more likely to score
spursnoob
we have all the ball they get ne chance and score, very poor from walker and poor positioning from lloris
123spurs
*****!
SilwalYid
no doubt we are making liverpool like a top 4 team, missing lennon big time
123spurs
Coutinho just made a fool of Walker
SilwalYid
Livermore is a poor version of jenas...and walker is a liability
darrel999
No way we can win this with Livermore on the pitch, do we miss Lennon?
tophobunty
If Livermore can play at thus level so can this bag of crisps I am eating, do we miss lennon
tophobunty
bale needs to get into the game more seen nothing from him so far
123spurs
now see the difference Lennon makes, Livermore is not good enough
philbill
Always stuck up for Jake, but hes had a shocking 10mins
HuddersfieldYiddo
What the feckkkkkkkkkkkkkkk is Townsend doing on loan to Qpr
tophobunty
Too many misplaced passes.
Fanman
Townsend should be playing on the wing and Dembele in the centre. Livermore is just *****e.
Moscovite
Cannot understand how lernnon gets so much stick from some fans, he makes a huge difference to this spurs side
philbill
This is fucling *****! All the action is goin through the middle....through our worst two players! Get dembele in the middle and bring on holtby FFS! Hate to say it but shocking team selection. First time Defoe gets the ball and again takes too long. This could get silly!
hudderspur
Livermore=Liverpool. Both are just not good enough.
Moscovite
Hope Livermore improve his performance greatly and quickly.
what_sux
big miss from siggy
123spurs
What Dembele does in CM > Parker + Livermore. Great pass find Bale to Sigurdsson, closest chance of the game.
what_sux
Get that phucking shot **** Livermore off!!!!
hudderspur
Need to get Livermore off the pitch, he's garbage!!!!
Warksspur
The dreadful performance by Livermore should not be so easily predicted by the average fan .Did not need hindsight on this one .
AVB can have this one as he`s been brilliant ,but don`t undo all your hardwork me old beauty
big cockeral
To have no decent cover for the right side & strikers is criminal .
One right winger at a 3rd place side is football suicide ,& to rely on Adebayor & Defoe ? madness .
big cockeral
We are not playing our best game but still look better than Liverpool. They are real garbage. Average side at best and even this is a compliment.
Moscovite
Is Defoe on the pitch?
Durbanspur
Imo not a great line up from us...playing too central....BUT Suarez and Gerrard could easily have had two yellow cards each...the ref is a homer!!
shedboy2
Get in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Warksspur
hopefully this will wake up bale, been very poor today
123spurs
Get in there
tophobunty
Shove that up yer arse Liverpool!
DocHotspurs
missed goal stream went down
123spurs
123spurs you`re one sad piece of *****
big cockeral
keep the faith
T0P-FOUR
Super Jan
SilwalYid
Dembele has been our best player by far
spurfect one
Defoe and Livermore are a waste of space...
dcruzer
Bale again literaaly delivers & again Vertonghen the man .

Best player on the pitch is Suarez ,closely followed by the superb Dembele .How Dembele gets grief i`ll never know ,he`s a man mountain .

really thought we`d suffer without Modric ,but in steps Dembele ,one of our fab 5 ,,Bale ,Dembele ,Sandro ,Vertonghen & Lloris
big cockeral
SUPER JAN, the scouse (un7s forgot to cheer when Gareth crossed it, Steve phucking G did that to Bale on purpose. PHUK EM, good time to score.
spu 4 life
Jan the man from amsterdam! fully deserved against arrogant scum
spursnoob
Bale again literaaly delivers & again Vertonghen the man .

Best player on the pitch is Suarez ,closely followed by the superb Dembele .How Dembele gets grief i`ll never know ,he`s a man mountain .

really thought we`d suffer without Modric ,but in steps Dembele ,one of our fab 5 ,,Bale ,Dembele ,Sandro ,Vertonghen & Lloris
big cockeral
I really don´t like to criticize our player in the middle of a match but I think Livrmore is a mistake waiting to happen...AVB could revert Dembele to his usual holding midfielder position, bring Siggs to right wing and put Holtby on the left wing, keepung Bale floating behind Defoe. It is a tight match so far, but I think we can win this with some scheme modifications. COYS !!
AlexSpur
We were well on top when we scored. 1-1 is fair so far. I hate to say it, but Livermore really was not a good choice. I would take him off at half time.
asherthesmasher
Hope Holtby replaces Livermore and Dembele drops back into the middle. COYS
Warksspur
My days, we're playing with 9 men. Defoe and Livermore are useless. Livermore is supposed to be a defensive minded player, yet he just let Suarez walk into the box. Parker has been average, at the moment Dembele is carrying us. Doing the work of 3 players.
Fanman
Dembele perform better than Livermore and Parker combined, thats said for someone being played out of position. Well done Dembele
what_sux
Oh and Sigudsson should have scored.
Fanman
The ref is a disgrace. Gerrard should be off by now for pulling Siggi back on the break and a deliberate dirty foul on Bale but he hasn't even got a yellow...disgraceful. Dembele has been brilliant so far but the difference between us and them is that they have a striker and we don't. We have had two or three clear-cut chances, especially Siggi from the edge of the area but no end product. Unfortunately, they only need another mistake when Suarez is around and that's it...(Still glad we didn't sign the (unt).
Harry-Kari
Ye Dembele has been great. I rate him through the roof. He has picked up his form of late, really since Parker has been improving. But we need to shift him back to the middle and take Jake off.
asherthesmasher
I think that Walker is doing ok. Every player gets mugged off by skill. The problems are Defoe and Livermore. I'm starting to get angry at Levy for not signing a striker. Imagine if we had a striker of Suarez' quality?
Fanman
good we scored and arent playing at our peak, especially considering Liverpool at Anfield never concede!
spursnoob
Coming on in with an elbow is a slimy move from Stuwei G...
dcruzer
Harry-Kari, no doubt Suarez is an extreme talent, but I'm glad that we didn't sign him too.
Fanman
we just dont get *****in beat anymore, AVB is a top class legend. We r too good for teams like liverpool
Yidd Fein
I think we have been better team first half, but they have Saurez and we have Defoe, not that Defoe is bad, but swap them and we would still be in the campions league
tophobunty
Would we be really weak if Carroll replaces Livermore now? Defoe is a waste and can only see Holtby adding some edge to our attacks cause he's doing nill so far...
dcruzer
I would of put £50 on Sigurdsson to score that one. Its kind of his thing. Suarez is too quick for everyone. Liverpool will struggle to keep him.
Fanman
Yidd Fein, brave words. Man we miss Lennon.
Fanman
We'll win this. I'm sure! Up the Spurs!
MAN ON!
Livermore is a quick passer...he has proved it last year europa league...his one touch pass is above standard...he is good physical and good tackler...walker has done great tackles now...Liverpool will surely fade second half because of the energy they used in first 30 min...thay have already bit faded/// spurs started slowly as usuall...AVB play dembele in advanced position goood desicion...he creates physical battle with coutinho kid...dembele has miss passed more than livermore....some fans have preoccupied view on livermore...
Navaneeth
dcruzer, I an't believe how useless Defoe is. His touch is awful, he's as bad as Torres.
Fanman
BTW, really starting to warm to Sigurdson. sure he missed that chance, but he looks good, strong, holds onto the ball. Once he gets a good goal he should be able to get rid of that anxiety in front of goal.
asherthesmasher
I'd love to see OX defend Livermore after this, I've said from day one he's a championship player. Although Parker beside him isn't doing to much good either. Neither of them are stand out players with a top quality centre midfielder beside them never mind the two of them on at the same time. I hope Holtby comes on. We are missing Lennon and Sandro but we have to get over it, this one can still go either way.
TopSpur13
Navaneeth ha ha ha ha cheers troll ,that post made me laugh .

Almost as funny as Spurs fans saying they`re glad we didn`t sign Suarez ,pricks or what
big cockeral
Jesus, Livermore is still on the pitch!!!
Warksspur
Harry
Agreed. So glad Suarez isn't a Spurs player. Great skill - no class.
Hotspur 1882
Time to support the team!COYS
SilwalYid
Super Jan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Warksspur
STRIKER SUPER JAN
spu 4 life
SuperJaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan!!!!!!!!!
DocHotspurs
its ok bale to be poor but not some1 like lennon who we miss today baldy
123spurs
Vertonghen just put 10 million on his price tag.
Fanman
******** defoe is an absolute liability. i don't get care if he now scores a hatrick, his selfishness knows no bounds. thats twice he has actually impeded his own teammate from shooting as well
Guernman
Absolutely disgraceful. Giving the ball away for fun, we should have this in the bag now wer *****ed.
hudderspur
POOR POOR BACKPASS
what_sux
Walker is a dickhead
philbill
That was ridiculous. Walker is a joker.
Fanman
wtf is Walker playing at!
Guyver
A sickening gift, never in it up until that
spu 4 life
oh my god what a idiot from lloris, and an other idiot from walker
123spurs
hey BC how would u feel of brad tried that attempt like lloris did hahaha
123spurs
we were bossing Liverpool and they looked down and out
philbill
does walker have a brain?
spurfect one
Aweful. I haven't seen us do that for a while.
Fanman
what was lloris trying to do well nothing really
123spurs
We just put Liverpool back in the game.
Fanman
Spot on Phil.... And then the silly error gets them back in it!
Durbanspur
all he had to do was head it
123spurs
How to ***** it up by Kyle Walker, exactly same as the last time we played them, they were down and out and we gift them a way back in
spursnoob
Shame. It should be 1-3 at least.
Hotspur 1882
Walker? The time is nigh.............for that big black cab.............
Jocka101
sickening
Guernman
brainless walker dose it again, im not suprised really
123spurs
what about lloris pity attempt??????????????
123spurs
Back to the main question: WHY is Livermore still on the pitch? Less than 15 minutes to go.
Moscovite
get LIVERMORE OFF THE PHUCKING PITCH
spu 4 life
We've lost.
Fanman
Defoe , Livermore and Walker vying for most pathetic performance of the match
what_sux
Defoe, livermore and Walker.... well done
Guyver
POOR DEFOE CLEARANCE
what_sux
dive and bae stupid
123spurs
someone shoot defoe
micky58
FFS Defoe and walker needs some new brain cells
spurfect one
******** Suarez is a cheating ******** though
philbill
Defoe and Walker should join circus
Moscovite
Did Suarez grab Dembele's face? What a total thug...
dcruzer
Suicidal defending for both their goals!
Durbanspur
For phuck sake!! The same ***** players cost us every phucking game!! When will we just buy some better phucking players!! Defoe done f all all game and now cost us! Get him out of our ******** club! Shot *****jng ****!!
hudderspur
You just can't allow for human error, and that has cost us.
spu 4 life
i told u we would ***** it up and both full backs an keeper to blame
123spurs
First Walker, then Defoe. We messed this game up ourselves. Its been a long time since I've seen us destroy ourselves.
Fanman
Hopefully Livermore get's his contract torn in his face after this....
dcruzer
Three points there for the taking.
Did Suarez dive?
Hotspur 1882
Tottenham are a much better team than mediocre scouse scum but we let ourselves down by ourselves.
Moscovite
We may as well have kicked the ball in our goal for them two goals.
TopSpur13
Liverpoo don't deserve any of this.....
dcruzer
3 points gift for liverpool
123spurs
shocking cross from bale
123spurs
Never should Defoe start again....he's at most a super sub.
dcruzer
thanks lloris walker an bae cost us, its all about bouncing back now,
123spurs
What did Defoe contribute except that poor pass? What did Livermore do? What did Walker do? Totally Sick, we could have won.
what_sux
we beat ourselves unbelievable
T0P-FOUR
We were in complete control until Walker decided to play a suicide pass, he really has sh%t for brains, he was also culpable for the first goal
spurfect one
Disgraceful !

Beat ourselves, what a wasted opportunity ! COYS !
ro6ertj
told you spurs will always ***** it up themselves
123spurs
cant wait for kaboul to get back so he can replace walker at right back
spursnoob
Mistake from walker one goal down....livermore failed to counter the counter attack of liverpool after the freekick 2 goal down...last time when lennon injured tottenham caught the bad omen of losing in the last half...
Navaneeth
T0P-FOUR, I was just about to say the same thing. We beat ourselves today, we looked tired and off the pace after about 60 minutes. Defoe, Walker and Ekottu cost us the game. You know what uarez is like, don't tackle him in the box.
Fanman
So frustrating to lose like this. I suppose we can only blame ourselves - we threw it away!
Durbanspur
Mistake from walker one goal down....livermore failed to counter the counter attack of liverpool after the freekick 2 goal down...last time when lennon injured tottenham caught the bad omen of losing in the last half...
Navaneeth
Better team lost due to two individual errors as simple as that.It happens can't get on their backs too much every player will make mistakes.
,br>I would be more worried had we not played well but we were so comfortable until the errors.

This season our strikers have been woeful again Defoe didn't look like scoring and when Ade plays neither does he.
,br>Lets see what other teams do.
thfan
Lost twice in scouse land are last league loss was way back at everton. We have had some top performances, as i said human error cost us, without Lennon the balance goes west. Forget it and move on.
spu 4 life
defoe is a complete liability. as soon as he comes back we look less of a team, bale becomes less effective. he blocked two of his own players twice in goal scoring opportunities, he never passes and his ludicrous pass to suarez just capped the day off
Guernman
yes walker back pass was poor but seriously lloris could of easily cleared it with hes head or kick it, but he missed kicked it
123spurs
And I thought Adebayor was utter *****e. Defoe is equally worthless. No real striker in the team.
Moscovite
Obv you cannot legislate for mistakes, but it happens, not very often with us, but there you go. We were not beat by the better team, that's for sure. We need to forget about this game ASAP.
asherthesmasher
surez dived and take a penalty....poor assou ekotto...who done well today i think...
Navaneeth
Shocking. We gifted them 3 points. 2-1 up, in control, chances to go 3 up and we throw it away with 2 horrendous errors. Suffering for having to rely on just Defoe upfront.
ParkLaneBB
this is football and mistakes happen...all the best walker and livemore
Navaneeth
Positives to take is dembele had a stormer as did jan. Livermore gets stick but at least he kept it simple. Walker seems to be progressing then takes 2 steps back.
spurfect one
BTW, Defoe needs to go, simple as that, and i am sure he will.
asherthesmasher
Lloris, Walker, BAE and Defoe cost us the game. How can they let themselves down like that?
Fanman
AY! We'll come fighting back!
MAN ON!
Defoe simply has to go. Liverpool were looking out of it then we brought them back into the game.
Fanman
We played well. They were very lucky. Poor communication by Lloris and his defense on the give away. Suarez dived but what was BAE thinking he knows u just have to touch him and he goes down. Our attack looked a little lame without Lennon but we had some chances. Again no real striker to create fear. The setup wasn't bad and will beat lesser teams but we needed to concentrate 100% today and didn't on a couple occasions. I hope it doesn't affect their psyche! Noticed Siggy gave away a lot of balls with poor passes but I like his effort.
jvd
I would also like to see siggy become more clinical, he knows how to get into good positions, saying that i thought he was one of our better players today.
spurfect one
would be great of chelsea draw though, more games would do them good ;)
Guernman
Well, we *****ed ourselves, to be sure, which was a shame cos we were the better team even without Lennon. Bet Vertonghen's gutted. Overall, great performance from us, could have had five. We gave them our goals. Tired head from Walker - he does run out of clues from time to time, but fair enough - he's young, Defoe's mistake was bad luck, but the rest of his game was poor today - didn't offer much. Benny was clumsy, but there yer go - been a good long run that had to end some time. Let's get back on track for Inter and Fulham. I'm sure the team will respond. Would have had Holtby on much sooner for Livermore - understandable he's off the pace, but prefer Dembele central. Still, wasn't tactics that cost us - just human error. ***** that hurt!
DocHotspurs
Sigurdsson didn't have a good second half. I can't believe that we messed up like that, that is the old Spurs.
Fanman
I can´t believe we lost a match we had in our hands...Siggurdson again had the chance to make 3-1 and kill the match and, again, made the wrong decision...should have passed to Defoe for an easy tap-in. Walker´s and Defoe´s mistakes....what does one can say ?? Walker´s mistakes had costed us against Chelsea, Sunderland, Lyon and Liverpool. Defoe does not shoot, does not create and gives an useless and stupid backwards pass for Suarez to get a penalti. Come on, we could be 5 up Chelsea and 10 up Arsenal. What a bitter taste.
AlexSpur
Ridiculous to have lost this match given that Spurs were in the car bird's seat with so little time to go. It had been a long time since our lad's bleed a couple of late goals like this (since Dec 9, three months ago) and we had seen three months pass without a defeat. Three months without a defeat is no small achievement. That's something to celebrate. But it wasn't nice at all to lose this match after we had it within our grasp and control. Let's start another unbeaten run to rival the one we just saw slip away. That would take us through to the end of the season and solidly in the CL. COYS. Don't revert to old bad ways of allowing late goals and losing points. It's a habit that seems well beaten. AVB must lead the lads to put this one behind and start another run without defeat to last the remainder of the season.
Total knobhead
This result raises Arsenal's morale a notch. Can't afford to make these silly errors against the better teams. Decent performance today ruined by a few individuals.
Guyver
We were so far on top of them, then we just gave them the game. I mean, who tackles Suarez in the box?
Fanman
Levy, that's why we needed a ******ng striker...only since 2009. All those who think Ade is useless should look at DeFoe ffs. They had a plan for Bale which was to cripple him if they could and it worked. They were cr*p with only one tactic, play the ball through for Suarez and Sturridge and where they failed Walker succeded. Great back pass from DeFoe for their penalty and Gerrard shouls have been off in the first half. Ref was poor but our lack of finishing coupled with non-defending and suicide passes cost us the game. I'm afraid here we go again and AVB got this one very wrong. Why Livermore and not Carroll who offers a lot more in the game, why DeFoe stayed on the pitch after the 1st half when anyone would have been an improvement, why no Holtby until 3 minutes from the end are all questions that AVB should ask himself. Anyway, that's my week-end well and truly ******ed-up. Bolloc*s.
Harry-Kari
Now it is super-mega-over-important not to lose the tie to Inter Milan...that would destroy our morale. Assuming we will get a CL spot, we really need covre for Walker, Lennon, Ekotto and, of course, decent strikers. Let´s hope Arsenal and Chelsea do not win their next matches.
AlexSpur
well i had a bad feeling about this game, we were due a bad result. didn't expect us to throw it away so ludicrously, but at least we played well. dembele was great today, but we did miss lennon. adebayor is a far better option than defoe because his presence, even when he does absolutley nothing useful, is at least not detrimental to his teammates, defoe's is. If I was a striker he would be the one player I would absolute detest playing along side. Bale will not reach the same heights next to defoe.
Guernman
Kyle walker

Great athlete, but lacks intelligence
spurfect one
This is not the old Spurs! Why? Because we'll come back and make it good.
MAN ON!
After all of that hard work from Jan, he must be furious with Walker, Defoe, Lloris and BAE. Who taught Walker to play a backpass from wide right?
Fanman
this is a game we could look back on and say why did two idiots back pass at all!!!
spursnoob
oh it has to said that while suarez might have made the most of BAE's clumsy contact, the whole Bale grabbing his face to win the free kick for our second goal was far worse. I hate Suarez for his cheating, I don't like to see that sort of thing from one of our players
Guernman
Well, I´m just cherring Chelsea and United to keep this FA Cup 2-2 so that they will have, Chelsea specially, another match to make their run in even more congested. Defoe and Walker should come back to London walking so that they would have enough time to reflect on their silly mistakes.
AlexSpur
I can understand why sig was playing, again a great game from him but why the hell did he play livermore at all, for god sake even when he came on against milan with us 3-0 up i got nervous we left Holtby on the bench again for no bloody reason. Why on earth are we playing defoe he is as greedy as bale yet always misses, showed that against Milan, would have rather seen 6 midfielders than the strikers we have at the minute
spursnoob
To be fair, they looked knackered in the final stages of the game. At half time I said that we were playing with 9 men, and in turned out that we would of been better off without Defoe, he was uselass and instead of clearing it, gave them the win. That's the worst I've seen him play. Guyver, spot on. MAN ON! That was classic Spurs, snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.
Fanman
What was Defoe trying to do anyway? Why didn't he just hoof it? I don't think that We'll see Livermore again for a while, unless AVB is crazy. AVB was also poor today. It would of been much better to bring on someone who could pass the ball when we were clearly tiring.
Fanman
I know Lloris should have done better, but why on earth would Walker play a 1st time, lofted back pass from wide right and near the halfway line, with Liverpool players surrounding our box. The pass wasnt even executed well, as it was too short and forced Lloris to race off his line. The most ridiculous mistake in Walkers growing catalogue of unforced errors. You'd never see Corluka do something so brainless.
Guyver
we have to get back on track, drop defoe to the bench, play adebayor, cos he gives bale more space to go into when he pulls out wide, and we will be ok, sad day to lose a game we was in control of............
micky58
Walker continues to show that talent is nothing if it cannot be combined with intelligence. I am not going to slate Livermore because he has not played much and really made but a few errors. He is also our number 4 or 5 DCM so he is not what we would play given healthier options. Defoe, like Walker, completely lacks the footballing brain. 1 goal in his last 950 PL minutes is just awful. He has scored in only 3 of his last 19 PL appearances. Those are not striker numbers. We missed Lennon today. His pace and willingness to stay out wide along with his coverage of Walker were all very sorely missing. Lloris might have done better on Downing's goal, but that is really not a position he can be left in. Any contact and he gets a red card for bringing down the last man. The spin was taking the ball away from him and he just did not get enough on the ball to get it by Downing and in to touch. He will, no doubt, believe he could have done better. BAE had another sub-par game. He made three or four poor decisions all in positions where he needs to be thinking safety first. I'd sell him if there is truly interest. I only see him getting worse. Did Holtby even touch the ball? Pretty sure Carroll saw more of the ball than he did. Win as a team and lose as a team. Today there were just too many players who had their brains turned off and too many sloppy mistakes. Just as we did against Everton, we gave it away. COYS
peterballb
Stay calm please! It was a good game of football and for long periods we looked very good and very solid. Dembele and Jan were immense today. Dawson had a good game too. The problem we have is well known and that is our lack of strikers. Defoe was non-existent today. The only thing he did was play Suarez in for their winning penalty. He is absolutely crap and looks vastly out of his depth in our current team. Having said that so does Adebayor. That is our problem. Both our full backs created problems for us. Walker won't sleep well tonight. BAE was clumsy on Suarez and it was a definite penalty. More than physically tired we looked mentally jaded today. A bit of rest and a striker and we'll be strong again.
SpuriousLife
Guyver, exactly. That was the worst error of the season. I've never seen anyone attempt a back pass from there. Lloris should have stayed on his line though. Walker just ended any chance of getting into the England team, he's dumb basically, and over confident. And BAE just shoving into Suarez was a school boy error. A few individuals let the side down today.
Fanman
This was one of the games that we had to get something against difficult opposition to maintain a gap at the top, we now have to get results from Man City/ Chelsea and swansea
spursnoob
and also siggy needs to pass to defoe in that situation, I know it wouldn't be reciprocated by anyway. That degree of selfishness drives me crazy. I think a player should be fined a weeks wages if he doesn't pass to a team mate who can tap the ball in. even if siggy scores it is still the wrong decision.
Guernman
peterballb, spot on mate. Defoe has to go. Livermore didn't make any massive errors, but he doesn't add anything to the side. Liverpool were quite poor, and I think that we would've beaten them had it not been for Defoe and Walker. Ade is the better option by far, he at least has a football brain and makes space for Bale. Lets spare a thought for Vertonghen and hope that Walker will never do that again. Lennon got injured at the wrong time.
Fanman
Well we were the better side in both games on Merseyside and lost them both late on with lack of concentration. Had both in our pocket. Oh well we can go on another 15 game unbeaten run for 3rd/4th place and Europa Cup winners.
CoysRus
I cant see this having a bad effect on us although what must the team be thinking of Walker and Defoe at the moment, Its worrying whenever they touch the ball what they might do with it
spursnoob
The difference today was two self inflicted, individual errors. Take those out and we win the game. Sometimes it just happens like that. Time to move on and look forward. The more serious problem is our strikers. Liverpool worked hard on Bale today so the onus was on Defoe. Still he played like an anus! Neither he or Adebayor are good enough. I would seriously consider playing 4-6-0 for the rest of this season as playing with Defoe today was like playing with 10 men.
SpuriousLife
Guernman, yep he should of squared it to Defoe. I think we're a good team, but we have players who are a liability. Why tackle Suarez in the box, everyone knows that he dives. In fact I can't believe that the referee bought it.
Fanman
Whats in the water at Mersey side that makes our team to switch off mentally like that ? Its been twice now.
Arky
Your earlier comment says it for me Guernman - we're not the same team with Defoe upfront - he just gets in the way and nullifies Bale's new roving role.
Durbanspur
SpuriousLife, Ade is the better option IMO. He keeps defenders busy and plays with his back to them, Defoe is counter-productive. He brings the side down, as he did today.
Fanman
Durbanspur, Defoe doesn't want to make the best of Bale, he wants the glory for himself. We need to get rid of him. Ade opens up the game for Bale. He must hate playing with Defoe. Sigudsson must hate playing with Defoe too, maybe that's why he didn't square it too him?
Fanman
I'm sure that Walkers back pass just looks worse the more you see it. Thing is, we were in control up until that point. That sucker punch goal seemed to take it all out of us.
Fanman
Reality is though, Liverpool had their best 11 or 14 players at their disposal. We were without Lennon, Sandro and Kaboul, who could all have made a huge impact on this game, even without a striker who has a clue, so we gave the game away to a team that really cannot do much better. My only criticism of AVB was breaking up Dembele and Parker in the middle. While they do not seem to be at all in sync, they both individually make it so tough on the opposition. Now's where AVB earns his paycheque. Refocus the lads and get us back to the task at hand. COYS
peterballb
Every game now is a must win. Scary part is that we are quite capable of doing just that. COYS.
Arky
guernman-you were right lucas leiva did a job on bale,he only threatened on set pieces
ghulamville
Quite agree there with peterballb, now is when AVB shows us his mettle. COYS
Arky
Character Building - Well I hope thats what comes out from this. Suarez goal quality, brilliant finish. Great ball from Bale to level things up. Up until half time, I though Walker was having a very good game, some timely interceptions as well. Livermore again was sound during the first half. No way can you blame Lloris he has come for it. Downing so lucky to retrieve Lloris's clearance and then through the legs. If it finishes 2-2, then I can live with that as I thought it was a fair result. Enter Defoe. WTF was he thinking and WTF is he doing wearing a Spurs shirt. Defool was a complete liability today, absolute WOFT. My concerns though are with BAE. His lack of form and positioning is worrying. In the infamous words of SAF, it's going to be 'Squeeky Bum Time' for the run home.
thenuge
One last thing. Siggy should have buried his chance in the first half. Golden opportunity for him, a bad miss.
thenuge
Inter and then Fulham to get back on track for the games away to swansea then at home to everton, dropping any points will leave us with a thin margin between arse
spursnoob
Defoe's error wasnt really a bad decision (like Walker's) it was simply poor technique. He tried to chest control the ball, then hook the clearance over his head with his 2nd touch. But because his chest control was so poor, it left him reaching to hook the ball away and he just ended up toe ending the ball into Suarez's path.
Guyver
Now anyone who is remotely interested and takes in what i said months earlier ........i sat on the fence with AVB i think he is mustard now.....Kyle walker needed to go after the chelsea fiasco...and Ekotto too laid back to be the best....which i think if he wanted it he could be....i have thought this for ages.....and by the way when we had Berbatov, Keane, Bent and Defoe........guess who i thought was 4th?
Jocka101
Shooting practice for everyone,have Jan lead the session.
Arky
@Yidd Fein - May I offer a towel to wipe the egg of your face. I secretly harboured the same thoughts, but didn't want to share them. LOL
thenuge
Errr, I meant sessionS!!!
Arky
Not seen it yet. Hearing about a dive to win the penalty.
Enlighten please.
Hotspur 1882
Should Gerrard have seen red?
Hotspur 1882
Hearing biased idiots gloating on Radio 5 phone in.
Hotspur 1882
Fanman I agree with you that Adebayor at least works the line and occupies defenders but neither he nor Defoe are anywhere good enough for our side. Excellent points by Peterballb too about Walker lacking footballing intelligence. Nuge you also make a good point about BAE. We know he is super cool but sometimes it slips into complacency and that costs us. We need to take this one on the chin and use it as motivation for our next game. We are not a million miles away from being very, very good. Today it was individual errors that cost us and sometimes you have just got to suck it up and get on with it. Congratulations to Liverpool. I'm pleased to see them getting back to a decent level.
SpuriousLife
Players,e.g. BAE, have mistake in them inherently with the potential and talent. Its the AVBs of the world whom are looked to fix these imperfections. Agree ?
Arky
*mistakes
Arky
Hotspur it was NOT a dive. It was a stupid and clumsy challenge by BAE and was a definite penalty. If it had been at the other end I'd have gone mad if we didn't get a pen. Stupid decision by BAE and all the problems caused by Defoe not being to control a simple pass.
SpuriousLife
SpuriousLife, agreed. I am also pleased to see Liverpool looking decent again.
Fanman
Apparently Gerrard didn't commit any fouls and was fantastic. Suarez was awarded a stone wall penalty; bundled over whilst trying to control the ball.
??????????
Hotspur 1882
I agree on the pen but why was BAE on the other side ?
Arky
Suarez is a disgrace of a cheat. The man deserves to win nothing. He should have been kicked out of football after the World Cup fiasco. He is a vile, racist human being who continues to cheat his way thru the EPL. Just wishing he doesn't get player of the year. Wrong message to kids
mattspurs1982
SpuriousLife
Thank you for clarification.
Hotspur 1882
Pleased for Liverpoo so long they can repeat this against our competition for the run in.
Arky
Disappointing because at least a point was there for taking today but we've been on a good run and losing to Liverpool at Anfield is no disgrace, we just need to Bounce back - Swansea & Fulham games now become massive.
MrSpurs
mattspurs1982
Thoroughly agree that it is utterly ludicrous to consider an unscruplulous lout like Suarez for footballer of the year.
Hotspur 1882
Mattspurs are you trying to tell me it wasn't a penalty today? If it had been at the other end would it have been a penalty? Put your anger to one side and you will see it was a definite penalty. We've just got to accept it and move on.
SpuriousLife
A lot of people rightly crying out for a striker.
Break the bank for Lukaku.
Hotspur 1882
...... when was the last time a Tottenham striker actually scored a goal? If we do finish top 4 there will be part of me thinking where we could have finished if we had an affective strike force.
MrSpurs
thenuge, Siggy should of scored, but he had a decent first and was good the second half until the Walker incident. I think that we should keep him out on the left so he can learn to play there. I do miss Bale on the left though. Guyver, he should of just whacked it, he gave it straight back to them. He was really poor today. It down to Levy for not buying a proper striker in January.
Fanman
Agree about Lukaku Hotspur.
SpuriousLife
Spurious - have calmed down and seen it was a penalty however I just can't stand the man. He's just a disgrace and exactly not the type of role model I want my kids watching. All this praise on the radio for a pig of a human. Just winds me up
mattspurs1982
Why would Chelsea sell ? They do not need the cash and probably resent AVB's success with us. We did not sell Modric to them. Lukaku=pipe dream.
Arky
MrSpurs, Swansea & Fulham don't have the quality of Liverpool, but if we keep gifting goals they'll take them for sure. We need a rest, but we have to play on Thursday. Lennon's injury couldn't have come at a worse time. Season after season we're unlucky with injuries. We cannot rotate Parker, who must be knackered.
Fanman
it was a tough game at a tough venue, but we would have won if not for two stupid mistakes. hopefully walker and defoe will learn from them. lets bounce back against fulham next week. COYS
dazzwater
Mattspurs as a man Suarez may not worth talking about. As a footballer the man is brilliant. Imagine if we had a striker of his quality.
SpuriousLife
MrSpurs, Ade when we beat Reading at home I think. Our striker situation is dire. Can you imagine how frustrated he is with having Defoe as his only option?Levy has really tied his hands.
Fanman
dazzwater, Walker, learn? I don't think so. He's a very good player, but he is full of errors.
Fanman
Chelsea bought Lukaku for 20 mio. He will cost 30 mio at least. Forget Lukaku. This transfer ain't gonna happen.
G Spur
Man, Defoe is just uselss can anyone say one good thing that he did today. He actually cost us points. Why did Harry buy him back anyway? We were so in control of that game, then the mistake just drained us. How could he try to backpass it from there? No brain.
Fanman
BAE should of known better, because he's a decent player. He had a good game defensively apart from his foul on Suarez.
Fanman
I'm really spamming the forum, sorry guys.
Fanman
Todays result shows me how far we have come as a team. 4 years ago we would prey we got a point there - today we are ALL gutted we didn't come away with 3. Chins up lads. These defeats happen and but for 2 stupid mistakes we would have seen the game out comfortably. The only thing that was proved to me today was 1. Defoe is not good enough in our set up, he was fecking pants. 2. Livermore isn't good enough YET and 3. We desperately miss Lennon on the right.
woodyn17
Suarez did not cheat. He was body checked off the ball by BAE who was out of position and scrambling due to a ball coming back in to the box that should have gone the other way. His goal was top quality and he was very good. I'd have cautioned him for touching Dembele's face as that was clearly antagonistic. Beyond that, he played. What I don't get is Bale gets cautioned every time he goes down but when Sturridge and Coutinho made meals of nothing they were both allowed to just continue. It's the complete lack of consistency that drives me crazy.

As for Liverpool getting there again, Carragher is done at season's end, Gerrard will be 33, Suarez is on every big club's wish list and they are again unlikely to have CL. Reina's lateral coverage is decreasing, Downing is Downing and approaching 30 as are Skrtel, Enrique, Aggar and Johnson. They are well coached, but they have a lot of holes that they are going to have to fill. Hopefully they do in Chelsea. Beyond that, they basically have to win every game and they will drop points.. Go in to Milan, get an away goal and the tie should be all but done. Back to business in the PL. Our fate is still entirely in our hands and Chelsea now have another fixture. I hope they beat ManU to get to the semis of the FA Cup and get past Steau in Europa. COYS
peterballb
Mistakes were made. Two terrible ones by Defoe and Walker. But this does not negate the run after the loss on Dec 9th until today. Got to muck things up once in a while. The real question concerns whether another streak without loss begins again on Thursday and continues through the rest of the season. COYS.
Total knobhead
1-2 and cruising, then brainless back passes it from the right-side of the half way line. AVB must be furious with him and Defoe.
Fanman
Fanman, BAE played himself in to trouble two times at least before he conceded the penalty. His decision making is really beginning to worry me. Harry's purchase of Defoe, Keane and Crouch really hamstrung us un both the wage and transfer fee fronts. I hope QPR stay up because then there will be a possibility of Harry buying him again. COYS
peterballb
Hi Just finished watching and gutted We had the game controlled and then gave it away. Can't believe Walker's back pass but he has been back passing all season especially after he stands for a while letting his brain catch up with his position and then realising he doesn't know what to do because the opposition is all in defensive position. BAE had a bad day. I like him but today so many of his forward and side passes were all to the opposition. Walker also needs to learn to throw to his own side. Jan was great and again my MOM. COYS We must rise above this and win on Thursday. I am sure AVB will get them psyched up for it
Big Ron
Total knobhead, I think that Walker can be forgiven, because he was generally on an upward scale. He won't back pass like that again. However, what excuses can be made for Defoe? What redeeming qualities does he have. If I was AVB, I'd be speaking to Levy about investment in a striker. Can you really sit through another 80 minutes of Defoe trying to make space to shoot? Hopefully Harry will siign him if they stay up. I'll drive him there myself.
Fanman
@Peterballb re. Chelsea - but only after extra time and with plenty of injuries ;-)
darkenvai
SpuriousLife, you're pleased to see Liverpool getting to a decent level? Are you drunk or something like that?
noone
peterballb, yes,I remember his mistake in the first half, but he made a great interception during the second half. He's no worse than any other left-back in the league though. Apart from Cole.
Fanman
I am really frustrated with that loss. If we lost to the better team then ok, what can you do. But to lose to poor judgement and mistakes like that is difficult to accept. Defoe might aswell of been wearing a Liverpool shirt today. He contributed nothing to our game and benefitted theirs. He simply has to go, he doesn't even have pace anymore. One of the things Harry got right was sticking him on the subs bench. Then we made the mistake of giving him a new contract in the summer. Perhaps I'm being harsh as he starte the season well, but we cannot accomodate a player that useless, who has a negative effect on our game.
Fanman
Why would any spurs fan be pleased to see liverpool getting back to a decent level?, especially when they have the same targets as us and have better income (even though they are in debt). Personally i want them to suffer and go bankrupt
spurfect one
We should stick Bale up-front on his own if Ade is not fit for Fulham. Playing Defoe cannot be considered an option for a team with top 4 aspirations.
Fanman
on the money. spurfect one
noone
Keep perspective we only lost to errors. They happen and I am sure AVB will get the lads fired up for the next couple of games Europa and PL and make sure this defeat doesn't hinder us too much.

We will get another player to push BAE and Walker in their positions, we may already have them in the set up but see their positions will not be so comfortable next season.

I think there will be an addition in the CM and we will see the likes of Hudd and probably Livermore go. Today Livermore didn't do enough to show he is good enough as back up - he is third choice DM behind Sandro and Parker. Although I think Parker is getting too old to maintain his performances he is way above Livermore and it would be a gamble to let him go without adequate cover for Sandro as Livermore is not the player.

I think we could have tried Carroll over Livermore and put him on the RW instead of Dembele, I think Carroll would have done a job and retained possession for us rather than losing Dembele from the centre. I think AVB got it wrong in that selection however until the errors we were well on top and looked home dry.

We do miss Lennon so those who think Lennon is useless are imo wrong, Lennon brings a lot to a game even when he is not playing his best. his work rate is probably one of the best in the team. He helps Walker out loads of times.

I feel we will be ok but yet again it is another test for AVB and the players to see if they let this loss affect them and to see if AVB can get them focused and motivated again.

We must stay positive put out positive energies as we are all connected and if we put out negativity then we will attract negativity and that it is useful. So COYS.
thfan
The ref was a Homer....gerrard and Suarez should have both been booked at least once in the first half and Suarez was lucky to be on the pitch, if the ref had bottle he wouldn't have! It didn't look a Pen to me....shoulder charges are allowed...the turn and dive was cheating....suarez dives and gets a pen, Bale goes down and gets yellow cards...But we didn't help ourselves....Bale through the middle for this game was a mistake...
shedboy2
I suspect the Liverpool pundits on MOTD will see things differently..
shedboy2
spurfect one, maybe because I grew up seeing them as a decent side. I don't think that there's anything wrong with competition in the league. I don't want them to be better than us and I wouldn't shed a tear if they did a Leeds, which I think is possible with their spending on wages and debt.
Fanman
Shame, getting in front then giving away 2 goals by horrendous mistakes, perhaps that is this season's aberrations out of the way. Merseyside has been a disaster, flogged the game at Everton in injury time, donated this game to Liverpool by two horrendous errors. People say Defoe doesn't pass. If that was a sample he should make sure he doesn't, Walker too casual with back pass, Lloris having come just needed to put his foot through it, put it anywhere if away from goal. Not so disappointed with the result, more by the manner of it.
Frank
Defoe did today what Defoe does...try and get a shot off...unfortunately Bale does the same thing and when you put the pair of them together in the middle what do you expect? Bale left Holtby middle and Gylfi right was the the way to go imo...
shedboy2
shedboy2, totally agree. It was a shoulder charge. The referee bought the dive. I don't understand why AVB broke up our centre-midfield and changed the shape of the side. Surely Sigurdsson should of started on the right, Bale on the left and Holtby behind Defoe? His team selection poor, but we were doing well until Walker and Defoe gave them the points.
Fanman
shedboy2, yes. Its so obvious. Sigurdsson, Bale and Defoe are both greedy glory boys.
Fanman
Earlier in the thread I had JD to score the winning goal - I was nearly right! AVB is getting some unfair stick for putting Jake in. Nonsense, we were controlling the game and would have won if chances were taken and howlers avoided so not his fault. It was nearly a great performance from nowhere near our strongest lineup so lots to be pleased about. Still need Ade to come good because JD is not a centre forward.
Love totty
I said before the match that I would have played Bale on the left and Siggy on the right. Parker and Dembele have been solid in the middle, wouldn't have changed it. As much as I like you AVB you got this one wrong, though you can't legislate for shoollboy football errors. We will bounce back, all part of AVB's learning curve. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
Love totty, I don't think that there was any need to bring Livermore into such a huge game. I could understand if it was against a weaker team, but Liverpool have recaptured their form and are on a hot streak. Today was the wrong day to try a new system. The most important thing was to have width and balance. Livermore is a good option off the bench, but starting against Liverpool away?
Fanman
I know he wasn't on for long but once again Holtby looked completely out of his depth and easily brushed of the ball. I think AVB has recognised this and will be looking to toughen him up before he can seriously challenge for a starting spot. I think he flattered to deceive in his first appearance.
Love totty
I meant to take Sigurdsson out of that equation, he's not greedy IMO.
Fanman
strange selection but by far the best team lost...so not all doom and gloom.............................. siggy was average............livermore has been dead for 11 years...but for two shocking mistakes and a siggy miss we were out of there with 3 points
tophobunty
ItalianYiddo, I said the same thing yesterday. It was the obvious formation. Sigurdsson is so versitile and Bale is comfortable out on the left, Holtby is also comfortable behind the striker. Yet he breaks up one of the best centre-midfields in the league? That said, it was working quite well until the error from Walker. Its such a shame for them to let the side down like that.
Fanman
LT- I think Holtby lost a bit of confidence when played on the wing and after having words with Bale....he needs to play in the centre if Bale and Defoe are both playing there he doesn't know where to go...Italian yiddo- agree.
shedboy2
Fanman - Jake wasn't the reason we lost this one. As I also said Holtby isn't ready yet so Jake was the right choice and it worked pretty well with Dembele on the right. He was magnificent.
Love totty
Lloris, walker, bae and defoe were poor today and cost us the game. Liverpool did not beat us, we beat ourselves. Lloris should also have done better for the first goal and cleared the ball for the second. Walker's stupid backpass let liverpool back in the game we were starting to dominate and should be dropped. Bae is a penalty waiting to happen most games, he 's always grabbing hold of players in the box. Defoe needs to learn to pass to our other players in the oppositions box not our own. All the good work done by the rest of the side meant diddly squat thanks to those 4 players. Jan the man was man of the match not squarez. Hopefully in the summer we will get a couple of good full backs, as well as a couple of strikers. up the spurs
whitehartmart
Dembele didn't go on the outside once. He is left-footed for a start, yet AVB plays our best central-midfielder wide right? Can you imagine that we have to persist with Defoe? We have a similar problem to Chelsea with Torres. Levy is a joker, not signing a striker.
Fanman
Fanman, i also grew up watching the great liverpool teams, still i want them to suffer lol :).

Anyone blaming AVB has to understand he actually was doing brilliant, you can not compensate for silly human errors, you can control a game all you want but if your players make the wrong decisions you will suffer, the 2 backpasses and siggy not passing to defoe when he had an open goal was purely down to the fact our players took the wrong decisions and nothing to do with tactics.
spurfect one
There is no point in Bale playing on the left with nobody in the middle to get on the end of his crosses. He's been far more effective through the middle and stepping left to shoot. This was a very performance - I really thought Suarez and Sturridge would stretch us far more.
Love totty
*good performance
Love totty
Spurfect - it looked to me that a ball from Siggy to JD would have been intercepted. JD needed to step back. JD wouldn't have passedeto Siggy, that's for sure.
Love totty
Love totty, Dembele was excellent on the right yes, but he would of been better in the centre IMO. I think that Holtby is ready, he can't be any worse that Defoe or Livermore. Livermore was poor in the first half, and not much better in the second. What does he contribute to our game? If Sigurdsson was on the right, he could of gone on the outside and Bale on the left likewise. That would of stretched them and made some space for Holtby and Defoe. Instead, we were narrow, and the player we have who is capable of playing a narrow system (Holtby) was on the bench. Of course the mistakes were not a result of the formation, but we could have beaten them comfortably if we had width.
Fanman
spurfect one, AVB has obviously improved us, and the mistakes weren't his fault. I just think that our formation made the game more difficult than it should of been. I my opinion, we should always do our best to keep our width.
Fanman
Just finished watching the whole game. Considering that we could have lined up better, considering we had key players missing and considering we were playing an in form Liverpool away, the scousers could have considered themseves lucky to get a point let alone all three. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
Fanman - i still disagree. Siggy hasn't the pace to go on the outside, left or right - and with no target in the middle a waste of time anyway. No, this was a solid line up which nullified a good team on their own ground for much of the match.
Love totty
Love totty, Bale was the most ineffective I've seen himall season today. AVB gets paid alot of money to make sure our best players aren't neutralised. He wouldn't have to stay out on the left for the whole game, but I think we've forgotten how good he is on the left, and that he can actually score from the left. Who knows, maybe Defoe might of had a better game with more space in the middle and crossess coming in.
Fanman
I thought we played well for the first hour or so, especially since Defoe hadn't turned up. Even if Defoe cost us the points today, he has won us plenty this season too. Neither he nor Adebayor are good enough to be starters in a team with top 4 ambitions but I'd take Defoe over Adebayor every time.
One error and a bit of bad control has cost us dear today but let's be honest, we've had more than our share of good fortune too this season.
If we have learned anything today, it's that Lennon is as important to the working of the team as Bale is. Walker would have had an out ball to Lennon if he'd been there and Lennon would have had Defoes position for the miss control that caused BAE to clumsily challenge Suarez. Definate penalty and today BAE reminded me of the bloke that always had me with my heart in my mouth with his all too casual style. Naughton has been better on the left this season. Strength in depth is a real worry, first XI is a match for any team in the league. Take one or two out and we look organised but toothless. This was not a great Liverpool team and they were beaten until we gave them a lifeline. We all know where we're lacking, why we're lacking is another matter entirely.
All in all, I'm still amazed that we're where we are and credit for that is all down to AVB. No matter where we finish this season, AVB has exceeded my expectations already. I can only hope that those who control the purse strings will back him properly in the summer. Who knows where that may lead us to finish? COYS
thfc1882whl
Love totty, I disagree. I think that Siggy does have the pace to get to the line and cross it. If not the pace, he certainly has the ability to put in crosses from the right, even if not at the line. Plus with Walker over-lapping him. I thought that they would make a good combimation. Better than Dembele and Walker.
Fanman
Fanman. Bale can score from the left. If in doubt call Maicon.
ItalianYiddo
No offense, Fanman, but AVB does get paid a lot to make better use of the players than you...or me! This time I'll stick with him.
Love totty
thfc1882whl, this may be controversial, but where would AVB be without Bale's recent form?
Fanman
Love totty, lol don't worry. You're entitled to your opinion, we just disagree.
Fanman
Fanman Who knows, maybe if we played with different personell or a different formation we could have lost by more, or we could have romped it, pure speculation. From what i saw though is that we had control of the game and liverpool were going nowhere until a costly human error gave them the initiative, so i thought avb was doing well upto that point.

Love totty i agree Defoe would not have passed it, from what i saw Defoe was clear in front of the goal, maybe i am wrong, i need a second look.
spurfect one
spurfect one, that's fair enough. Maybe I am nitpicking.
Fanman
I don´t know a manager who can foresee sunday-league-like mistakes from professional footballers. I woudn´t start Livermore at all, but he was not responsible for our defeat. Also, Lloris made what we are always praising him for doing, that is, being a sweeper-keeper. He had bad luck not clearing that ball, but I think he made what he is usually being called (sucessfully) to do. It hurts losing a match we could have buried when 2-1 up. Again, Siggurdsom was called to step up and he failed for the second consecutive match (he failed against Arsenal, but we managed to hold 2-1). If a player wants to be an automatic XI pick, one cannot afford bad decisions that cost a match. Walker has been poor since Newcastle and should have been given a rest. I imagine how bad he must be feeling right now and it won´t help either the team or himself to keep playing. Defoe definitely had a burst of goal-scoring but he is back to his own self...lost and selfish. It is good to know that we could have defeated Liverpool at Anfield...it shows how far we came. We are still the masters of our own destiny. AVB must work with the lads trying to get a pass to EL 1/4 finals in order to re-boost morale and focus on Fulham at the Lane, a match we now need to win.
AlexSpur
ItalianYiddo, exactly maybe we would have more chance of a pen, with Bale running into the box from the left.
Fanman
Fanman.... Good question, we'll find out soon enough if we finish outside the top 4. Personally, I think he's done okay without Bale this season, I'm sure peterballb could provide the stats for our results without him, more pertinent at the moment is...... How will we do without Lennon?
thfc1882whl
Wow, Liverpool were so jammy to win that. We are a top side, and even Barcelona and Bayern lose games. Watch AVB take us unbeaten for the rest of the season.
Tactically Challenge
AlexSpur, good post, but I think that you're being harsh on Sigurdsson. He plays well, but in front of goal when fails when he sould score, I think that will improve. thfc1882whl, without Lennon we are very narrow and we miss his defensive quality too. I think that he is just as important as Bale is to us.
Fanman
I would be furious if I was AVB. I don't think that I have ever seen such a poor back pass. Can you imagine being a manager with such a good team and two useless strikers? If a United player did that they would be dropped immeadiately. Has anyone ever seen such a dumb ass backpass?
Fanman
Broken record time for me but am I the only one who cannot understand or forgive the thinking behind our lack of ambition during the January window?
thfc1882whl
Fanman, I know I am being harsh on Siggs...I like him and was glad AVB didn´t sanction him being sold to Reading. However, he must stop wasting gold opportunities...Arsenal and twice today. Had he scored just one of them, Liverpool would probably have do strenght to come from the dead. Spurs learned lots throughout this season. It is a different side from last year but they still didn´t learn how to kill a match. Maybe Spurs do not have the players for this task yet, but it is the final lesson they need to learn. Even United fans were let down today...Chelsea went for a 2-2 after being 2-0 down and they nearly got a 3rd in Fergie time. Still think we will be playing CL next season because this Spurs incarnation seems to be learning from mistakes.
AlexSpur
Walker and Defoe made terrible errors. At least Walker is young and talented and might yet learn to play football, but Defoe? Surely he isn't going to grow into a better player than he is. He can come on as an impact forward when we are desperate to catch up when behind, but other than that, he's beneath our plans to be a consistent top four team that has a realistic chance of taking some titles along the way. He needs to be replaced if the team is to improve. Sell the lad to Harry and find someone else who won't play like Defoe did today. And assign a full time coach to Walker to help the lad learn how to play. Shame to waste such talent when what's holding him back is between the ears.
Total knobhead
thfc1882whl, me too. It was shocking. We all knew that we needed a winger to come in for Lennon or Bale, and A ****** STRIKER! Now we are stuck with lazy Adebayor and the counter productive Defoe, who only scores against the weaker teams. Now consider that QPR got Remy, Swansea have Michu and Villa have Benteke! Its an outrage. AlexSpur, if Siggy could finish he would be rivalling Bale and Lennon. He should of scored today and against Arsenal. At least United didn't lose. I feel that Siggy has some kind of bad luck.
Fanman
Total knobhead, precisely.
Fanman
I don't think that Walker is going to sleep tonight. He has messed up his England chances with that back pass.
Fanman
Levy has to carry the blame for this result for no adequate cover for Lennon or a decent striker .

A good workman never balmes his tools but ffs Levy give AVB the damn tools .Defoe was in as AVB had no choice ,lasted the 90 minutes because again AVb had no choice .Didn`t miss lennon ,but did miss a right midfielder ,one midfielder ? madness .
Defoe has been pants 2 games in a row so he can stop all the " i`m a great striker " because great you are not .

Only one to blame for this defeat is Levy & i`m a Levy fan .Livermore shouldn`t even be an option ,he is because Levy did not act when he should have ,Livermore is an anchor that holds the ship back .

last season blowing the CL you can firmly blame twitchy ,court case milk bottom glasses wearing for that only time ,scrotum face

but this time losing CL Levy should have a hard look at himself .An expected defeat but seriously ,Levy what were you thinking ? Adebayor is a write off & is not the answer .Siggy ,Defoe & Livermore are not either .

Individual mistakes may have cost the game ,but not backing AVB in January may cost more .

Spurs can`t afford anymore "what ifs " & can`t keep relying on our usuals to keep getting Spurs out of the $hit .
big cockeral
mattspurs1982 pot & kettle there ,practise what you preach .
Or like many on here & think your $hit don`t stink
big cockeral
I was one of those who was confident before this match. I was confident even when we were one down. Then to see us lead 2-1 and take FULL control of the game, seeing ‘pool team’s heads drop, I felt we needed one more to put the game to bed. The rest is history and I hate history for ruining my weekend! As Peterbalb and others have said, we missed Lennon “His pace and willingness to stay out wide along with his coverage of Walker were all very sorely missing”. Precisely!. Lennon may no longer be the best winger putting in those regular crosses, but this season his work rate has been immense and IMO with his assistance, he has allowed Walker to get away with pathetic performances.

I have however, taken a lot of positives from this game. The team (not necessarily individuals) DOES have a winning mentality. There was no panic and we stuck to our game plan at 1-0. We deserved to be 2-1 up and could easily have been 3-1. I am sure the players will be extremely disappointed with the outcome and would rectify this in the next PL game. I felt up until Walker’s ridiculous back pass, we played like a top 3 side. We were the better team for the most of the match as the stats will show.

The thing that concerns me most is, the return of Defoe ......in that it may coincide with Bale tapering off a little. IMO, the recent form of Bale has been built during Defoe’s absence and now I find Defoe getting in the way of too many player and getting on their nerves too!. I saw too many hoofs to the midget that were easily gifting the ball to ‘pool. I am sure AVB and the players will re-view the video and learn from it. I don’t so much mind losing our winning streak, but more the self-inflicted way that we did it. It will no doubt do a world of good to Liverpool, but we need to pick ourselves up and look ahead and not backwards. COYS!
Critical_Spur
ANDROS TOWNSEND
ghulamville
We already had andros townsend,but someone chose to let him go out on loan,
ghulamville
big cockeral, having Defoe and Ade as our only strikers could cost a top 4 place. They are barely mid-table strikers. I agree, the blame rests with Levy. Can you imagine watching Defoe for another 90 minutes...
Fanman
I don't like to say it but Defoe has had his chance. If he isn't scoring, he isn't contributing, he offers nothing else.
ParkLaneBB
ParkLaneBB, that is the feeling on every Spurs forum. He makes us a worse team. He has to go next season. Can you imagine watching him on Thurdsay and then against Fulham. Actually he might score against Fulham.
Fanman
Yep! Knew it was that unlucky 13 ****3! Anyway, it's outta the way now. We can move on. We actually played well for a lot of that game. Sleep well Lloris and BAE. COYS
SpursEagle
SpursEagle, Walker, BAE, Defoe and Lloris are not going to sleep well tonight. Walker especially I think. He could lose his place in the side for that, and he's dealt a blow to his England career.
Fanman
need new left back as well as a new striker, kaboul can move to the right and teach walker a lesson
spursnoob
sick to death of defoe and his play well at the start of the season and do ***** all in the second part, bring in someone who can actually play up front. Had more shots than liverpool but scored less, had a glorious chance to make it 3-1 but failed. Have you noticed that, we seem to have a fantastic chance to score, miss it and the other team goes onto win, sort it out spurs the lose means we now have to go for a win against swansea, chelsea or Man city
spursnoob
defoe's mistake was just as bad as walkers if not worse because he was not under pressure, he could have just turned and let the ball run past him. how stupid to knock it back towards our goal, first with the chest and then the kick.
Guernman
reading through the posts shows what a fickle bunch we are at times.when defoe was out a lot of us was saying how crap ade is,now defoe is back we want rid again.believe it or not ade is a much more perfect fit for us than defoe,for now.ade passes and hold the ball up.defoe just blindly rifles the ball towards goal....i only saw the highlights on MOTD2,which only showed defoe's main contribution as kicking the ball towards his own goal,but we know what he's like.he always reverts to type.bangs them in when he's got something to prove for 3 months then thinks every one of his shots will result in a goal......maybe siggy,foolishly,gave defoe a taste of his own medicine by not passing to him........not too sure if we need to panic just yet.the match was lost by individual errors.its not like they played us off the park.very similar to the chelsea game earlier this season......(can i say this?i hope i don't get sued)chin up yiddos,its still in our destiny.....COYS!!!
g. roberts testes
Fanman my point about them sleeping well is basically to say "forget about it! ***** happens!" All good runs come to an end. Lets move on.

Big c! You epitomise the f€€kin pot you muppet. How about even considering how much we missed Lennon today ... But you won't because you just need that personal vendetta, right? Gob*****e!
SpursEagle
Look, none of us knows why we did not bring in a striker and only tried for Leandro. My assumption (and that's all it is) is that AVB knows exactly who he wants and was not willing to accept less. Negredo, Hooper, Son and many other strikers were available. We could have had any of them but presumably chose not to. Again, I assume the decision was made not to get a striker for the sake of it and only go for the one(s) that would make a difference. Even Leandro would not necessarily have hit the ground running. Kane and Obika were loaned out. AVB was not going to play them so he sent them out on loan where they would get to play in meaningful competitions. Same for Townsend. People lamenting that we did not keep him are refusing to acknowledge that he was not used at any other time when one would have thought he would have played. Again, he is in a great loan situation where he will see minutes on the pitch and be the better player for it. I suspect that AVB would have played Dembele on the right even if Townsend were here simply because he has done it before. Like it or not, AVB has more faith in Livermore, Siggy etc and would have left Townsend on the bench, if even there.

I thought Defoe looked good against Inter, but today he was just pants again. I don't know what the solution is, but having Defoe and Ade playing crap is hardly the fault of AVB. It's not like there are lots of other options. I'd love to see Adebayor get going, but I am seriously doubting that that will occur. Defoe's 1 goal in his last 950 minutes on the pitch is terrible and having only netted in 3 of his last 19 PL appearances is beyond awful. 10 goals in 99 shots is also terrible. I am instead hoping for a speedy recovery by Lennon and Dempsey and to seeing Sigurdsson keep improving and to see Holtby finally settle in. BTW, another awesome free kick from Bale. Nice to see that there is work being done on the fundamentals. BAE on the last 2 goals seemed completely disinterested because others slipped up. He did not hustle at all after the ball went off of Downing and he was certainly not arguing that it was not a penalty. I just think Defoe is about 5 years past his best before date and BAE will be there imminently if he is not already there. Bentley, Hudd, Gomes, BAE, Defoe need to be moved on. Gallas will not be back. Bring in Belhanda, Son, Dzagoev, Moutinho and Howedes and perhaps even Dawson and Parker could be moved on. We don't need to spend a mint. We just need to add some quality and some versatile scorers. Imagine a front three in a 4-3-3 of Bale, Son, Dzagoev. Fast and all very capable of scoring. COYS
peterballb
At least we are scoring from set pieces Peter. Somebody must have got them practising
Big Ron
We missed the width lennon provides, and the support he gives Walker, not just in a physical sense but with runs providing a better pass option than whatever he was attempting to do. Defoe, nothing more to be said. Dempsey on the bench would have been a nice option to have.
Tottenham Hotcore
And in my humble opinion, anyone thst thinks avb is to blame is an idiot. Bar 2 individual errors that are inexcusable at this level, we were the better team. We had nothing of quality as back up on the bench (or upfront on the pitch) yet avb forged a team capable of winning only for 2 miss kicks to kill us off.
Tottenham Hotcore
ghulamville writes, "We already had Andros Townsend, but someone chose to let him go out on loan"... Yes unfortunately at Spurs under Enic it's balance the books first, even if the coach is left short of adequate cover for his team! How Ironic that Townsend should score a wonder goal for QPR on the day Lennon is out injured. But there is no shock what soever with this scrooge like behaviour from our triple billionaire owner and his billionaire politician board member mate. Saving 20 or 30 grand a week on Townsend's wages is much more important to Enic than qualifying for the CL or winning anything! A leopard never changes it's spots...
pelebro
As for Defoe, I know he can be frustrating, but the only reason he played yesterday is down to Enic's total refusal to pay the going rate for a world class striker! Defoe is Defoe and we have to be careful not to make him a very convenient scape goat for Levy. If Spurs fail this season Levy will pass the buck onto AVB. For 13 seasons now Levy has been passing the blame onto his 8 coaches, 3 DOF's and countless players (all hired by Levy) for his failings. Let's not attack Defoe, he does the best he can with his limited ability. He ain't no Suarez, and it's very important to remember that the only reason we do not have a striker of that level at our club, is because our triple billionaire owner is as tight as a ducks arse!!! Same goes for the stadium...
pelebro
oh god help us...pelelbro recurring drivel is back, lock up your children get the paint out and paint a few walls, then watch dry, its much more intereting.... The pelebro loop is in town
tophobunty
thfc1882whl writes "Broken record time for me but am I the only one who cannot understand or forgive the thinking behind our lack of ambition during the January window?" No of course your not the only one! There are hundreds of thousand of Spurs fans asking the very same question. What I can't understand however is why we Spurs fans still get surprised with our owners lack of ambition? It's been 13 seasons now, 8 coaches, 3 DOF's and over a hundred players bought by our fantasy football chairman. This penny pinching Enic crew are all about bargain basement success, or no success at all! A leopard never changes it's spots...
pelebro
I said that during the match and I want to repeat the same again now: I was really really surprised to see how average Liverpool was. Brenda is now talking about Anfield becoming a fortress again bloody hell give me a break. Your team is real rubbish, mediocre at best. You were second best in the entire game, you were bossed in your own garden and one lucky win doesn't make you look decent. After watching our match against scum at WHL I must admit at least Arsenal can play football. Liverpool are just garbage. I am glad we never employed Brenda and I wish his little *****ty project to fail because it has all attributes of a failure. From now on: forever in our shadows, scousers.
Moscovite
Having watched the whole game on TV... Their 1 goal was livermore not keeping with suarez run into our 18 yd box, jake turned and watched the man with the ball... Second was idiot back pass,.. third shoulder charge, and a dive.. but we got away with Jan tackle in our box earlier, so two appeals in 10 mins, was odds on for penalty. We should have won that game...agree Lennon was missed.. AVB will surely have to drop walker when Lennon not playing, or play Naughton in front of him ...or reverse them, walker as r/mf / rw.
Block D Spurs
Moscovite - in denigrating them you underestimate our quality and performance. We bossed a very good team who can certainly teach us a thing or two about scoring goals. If we had taken our chances the bloopers would now be forgotton.
Love totty
pelebro, your claim that ENIC are responsible for loaning out townsend has to be one of your most absurd attacks yet. AVB decides whom he wants to see loaned out and whom he might need. Unlike Harry, this manager looks at how he can improve the squad and not increase the chances of his looking good to the detriment of everything else. while there may be very rare occasions, potentially yesterday, when townsend might feature, the fact remains that he is playing a lot more with QPR then he ever would have for us for the rest of this season, it is therefore the right decision for the player, and remains the right decision even if we could do with him for the next week or so. A good manager will also take the view that a players individual development is more important for the squad then just keeping them on the bench (if that) just in case in some rarified moment you might need them (just ask pav, krancjar, corluka etc). so what? ENIC go from hoarding everyone under harry to leaving themselves short under AVB, yet both times its only ENIC to blame? Townsend's loan is proving to be one of the most successful loans yet for any of our developing players, whether he would have featured yesterday or not doesn't change the fact that it was the right decision to loan him. if we had sold him then fine have a rant at ENIC, but this is AVB just being fair to a player who needs to play. thank god we have a manager taking a long term view of the squad development. As for leaving us weaker, we had liverpool's number yesterday, and but for two stupid errors would have had the points, once again AVB has done his job though
Guernman
I think it would have been better dembele central , walker pushed forward, naught on right back, Livermore on a park bench somewhere. Would consider kaboul at right back when fit
tophobunty
I didn't see the game yesterday due to flying home to the Netherlands, although reading through the posts I get the general gist that after falling behind we upped our game and got our noses in front through Super-Jan. We then proceeded to throw the points away due to poor decisions where Liverpool punished us from.

My opinion of Defoe has always been a little less of Big C's one of Lennon. Defoe is at best an impact sub and preferably not for Spurs. Like him or not but Ade is far better for us than Defoe, and Ade would struggle to get into my veterans team!!

When we were 2-1 up I was checking twitter for updates and I read we had a few chances to kill off the game but due to either a bit of bad luck but more or more importantly individual greediness we failed to capitalize and in turn this has cost us at least 1 but more likely 3 points!
yiddyboy
Topho - why do you think that AVB decided not to do what you suggest, either to start or during the game? His formation worked really well in bottling up the MF and denying service to Suarez and Sturridge. They were scoring bucketloads and creating many more chances in recent games and we barely gave them a look in apart from the bloopers.
Love totty
Guern I think there is a HUGE case for TOWNSEND. To be getting games with s now. He is by far and away our best option left side, now bale is central and by far and away our best option to cover for the injured Lennon. It's a total no brained. Like you I am sure it's AVB's call on who goes out on loan, but it was a shocking decision in this case. he should have been on the pitch at anfield yesterday with Livermore making the tea and SIggy the sandwiches.
tophobunty
Love totty agree with what you say there, that doesn't mean we could have not been even better, dembele played very well but better when he came inside . Always a tricky call when we lose Lennon. All in all we outplayed them and were let down by three/four huge errors, two for each of the second and third goals.
tophobunty
To me it looked liked AVB set the team up to get at least a point yesterday, we found ourselves with almost all three...but unfortunately two mistakes cost us the game. We move on. COYS!
JayCoys
pelebro - You're a tw@!! Internacional CONFIRMED THEY RECEIVED A BID OF OVER £20MILLION FOR LEANDRO DAMIAO, but THEY DECIDED IT WASN'T ENOUGH.. This Damiao, a guy who has NEVER played club football outside of Brazil, and has a TRULY AWFUL season domestically, how much do you think our club should be willing to pay for him? £30mil? £40mil? Get a fu(king grip man. You ruin this facility & are an embarrassment not just to THFC supporters, but also to yourself.
coopsieyid
BigC - You too are unbelievably blinkered. Even though it was abundantly obvious to EVERY member of this site (apart from you of course) that we DESPERATELY MISSED Lennon, you still can't bring yourself to refrain from your idiotic vendetta against one of the most important members of our whole squad. "Didn't miss Lennon, but missed a right midfielder". Possibly the most uneducated & ridiculous post ever written on this site. There is absolutely no doubt at all in my mind that you noticed there was no NATURAL width in the team yesterday, the width that Lennon GUARANTEES. You just refuse to acknowledge it because of your rather pathetic hatred towards Lennon..
coopsieyid
Love totty - Kudos to you for attempting to maintain a semblance of common sense, some excellent posts fella!!
coopsieyid
coopsieyid Like you said how great Shay Given was ,where is he now ? & like you said how $hit Walcott was & how you`d never come here again if he scored ? mmmmmmmmmmmm
Walcott is not $hit ,but you being a know it all & all that ,what did i say about people on here thinking their $hit don`t stink ?
But it`s ok for you to hammer Defoe ? Redknapp ?

Or do i have to rate Lennon because you all do ? it`s not my job to get it right ,but no i don`t rate him .
Reap what you sow because i`m good
big cockeral
No BlinkeredC, you don't need to rate anybody you don't rate. you're telling me now that I was/am wrong about Recaro & Defoe? As for Walcott, i've openly held my hands up & said he has improved immeasurably, especially in his finishing. I've got no problem at all in acknowledging when I'm proved wrong. You need to check your penultimate sentence fella. "Or do I have to rate Lennon because you all do". Surely if every other THFC supporter is able to recognise & acknowledge his importance to the team, whilst you are not, then it's you that is wrong? As for your very last sentence, you keep believing that, because, just as with your opinion of Lennon, you're very much on your own in thinking that. Your standing on here is nothing but proof of that, unfortunately!!
coopsieyid
Reap what you sow because i`m good ,that`a fact .
Stop being a lick arse know it all ,because you will
big cockeral
At least take the time to respond in English, please. Then also take the time to rise above needing to resort to petulant put-downs, as was the case in that last, yet somehow unfinished and nonsensical sentence. Because I will what?? Let me guess, go suck a cock, seeing as I'm such a cocksucker? Or go lick some arse, because that goes alongside cocksucking somewhat seemlessly? Or should I perhaps resort to the same tack as you use, and simply respond with misguided opinions of oneself, whilst abusing anybody who dares to question my opinion?

I'm all ears!!
coopsieyid
With Defoe on, it's like playing wih a team of 10. Sorry Defoe but you've done NOTHING, ZILCH!. May be he hasn't the service. More reason to get Hotby or Carrol on as soon as. COYS!
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