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Welcome to the striking merry-go-round!

I know for some, talking about transfers, with months to go before the window opens is madness. But behind the scenes, clubs will already be jockeying for places in the summer transfer merry-go-round.

In the last few days, Spurs have been linked with a likely or unlikely move for Madrid's Gonzalo Higuain for what would seem a very respectable £24m. It is clear that Spurs need to drastically improve in the striking area of the team and should they manage to steal a marquee signing such as the Argentinean, who has an excellent scoring record for club and country and would appear to the the type of player that would excite the fans, improve the team and also make a statement of intent, that Spurs are a team that is seriously looking to kick on.

It may well be that Champions league qualification is the difference between our having any chance or no chance of getting a really top quality striker and we are sure to also have huge competition from many of the box-office sides, who are looking for a top rated scorer, with City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal, all seemingly in need of added numbers, and thats just in the English Prem… But, would the prospect of being the first choice be a key to any move for a player that may prefer regular football over a bigger pay cheque? Higuain has been out of favour for much of his time at Real and though he has also suffered with injury, he might be looking to re-establish himself as the main No9, as opposed to being the competition or rotational selection when the first choice is being saved for the bigger games.

There is also the belief that the players pregnant girlfriend, has already moved to London after accepting a role for the BBC, therefore new baby, girlfriend in London and a possible need to be playing more often (lets not forget the World Cup at the end of next season) and it is nailed on that he will move to London! Right?… If that were true, we would still be up against the vastly richer Chelsea and our beloved neighbours, that may or may not want to make a spending statement of their own in the summer, but could the winner of a CL place also get their man?

Already we are reading about, Radamel Falcao, Robert Lewandowski, Edinson Cavani and a few more, being linked with major moves in the summer, and of course they will attract equal and probably bigger interest from the elite and massively rich teams, which may well make them out of Tottenham's reach, but those players moving create a transfer merry-go-round, which could see for example Cavani replacing Torres. Torres or Louis Suarez, replacing Falcao. Falcao replacing Higuain, etc etc. You assume that the likes of Juve, PSG, Napoli and many more european teams will be in the running for the better players, but though that may push Spurs out of the running for the biggest and best, it may allow us to snatch a player that is pushed out as a result of a bigger fish, wanting instant success and therefore sacrificing a current minnow. Someone like Romelu Lukaku, who may be third choice of below at Stamford Bridge?

There will be many rumours that Spurs signing a player like Higuan will only happen if Spurs sell Gareth Bale the other way, but is that really the case? Firstly, Higuain is possibly going to be in a reasonable bargaining position, as Real may want to sell him more than he actually wants or needs to leave, therefore Real wanting to trade him in for Bale, may not appeal to the player, who might prefer to go somewhere else, even if that has to be in or near London. Also could the prospect of Spurs finally getting that top quality striker, coupled with CL football persuade Bale to stick with us for at least another year. Again, he is a new father and is enjoying his football, so is it really certain that he would want to leave or that Spurs would consider selling unless he wasn't having a major tantrum?

I know it is all media and fan speculation, but we all know that clubs are already sounding out players and agents over possible ins and outs and it is naive to think otherwise. You would like to think that AVB and Mr Levy are already seriously looking at possible targets, whether Damiao, Higuain or Peter Crouch, and will certainly have a Plan A, B, C and D, depending on the summer movement and also their budget, which may or may not be boosted by Champions league football. Problem is, that so many other clubs will be in exactly the same position and doing the very same thing...

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Date:Wednesday March 13 2013

Time: 9:08AM

Your Comments

I hope we are leading the line in jockeying terms

Big Ron

Oh god, here we go. Appreciate the effort to write the article but didn't get past the first paragraph. This conversation is around 6 months to early when at least the transfer window is open and we know whether we have CL football etc. Anyway, 2 massive games this week. We need to coast through Inter and then beat Fulham handsomely, get Liverpool completely out of our system and not let any doubts creep in. The squad mentality is great. Lets keep it going for a big push.

StillRickyVilla

SRV Must agree. I read most posts but when it comes to transfer speculation I just switch off. Really looking forward to the next two games but it is going to be a long break till wan sea. Good for the players but not the supporters

Big Ron

Swansea

Big Ron

@ StillRickyVilla, in the eyes of many fans they love transfer debate, but also realise that clubs and players/agents are already looking for moves and to set themselves up with the right club and right money. Sure there are plenty of last minute deals, but very often players and their families love the time to plan if at all possible. Can you imagine a top player such as Higuain, wanting to get himself sorted asap. his girlfriend is perhaps already in london, is expecting his baby and if he is settled on wanting to move with her, will he want as long as possible to learn the language, sort a house and be at least someway to being settled for the start of the season. That is of coyurse an ideal situation and many many players never get that chance, but if he knows that Real want to sell him and there is a very strong belief that they have already bought Falcao, he might like to take the opportunity to plan his future, as opposed to waiting and having far more hassle. That isnt to suggest that he has already settled on any club, but you assume he could very well be in early talks with a few possible options

oxfordspur

Ron, we need to invent some 'knocks' to get them out of international duty - like Fergerson and Wenger always seem to. Especially Bale, Giggs hardly ever played for Wales.

StillRickyVilla

Madness? Don't we come on here day after day to discuss the ins and outs of a bunch of blokes running around desperately trying to kick an inflated pig's bladder (okay things have moved on since those days) into the back of a net? Prematurely discussing the arrival of players outside our budget amounts to no more than the slightest tightening of the straitjacket! My cell's got padded walls, so I'm more than happy to bash my head against it for six months. If we sign Higuain because his bird is going to work at the Beeb, I shall never again gripe about paying the license fee!!

darkenvai

LOL @ Darkenvai!

StillRickyVilla

It’s a shame that so much is riding on who we can/can’t sign next season. Don’t get me wrong, I personally think the club, players and fans are doing enough to make us an attractive prospect this season alone, even without the EL cup in our hands presently or a finish above our London rivals. BUT we will make things even easier should we do qualify for the CL. I have heard a few whispers too....but it’s way too early for all that! Like everyone else I'm too wrapped up with this seasons football.....

SpursOne2

It may be just me, but Higuain's never really impressed me when seen him, especially for £24m! Maybe if he was available for £15m but that wont happen as he seems to be a big name, but not a great player...

mattspurs1982

mattspurs1982, His record is impressive, especially since he hasn't had a good run of games in 3 years!

Tactically Challenge

There is a problem with all this speculation - who says we only need one striker ? Lets say we bust our budget on a super striker, then he gets a Kaboul type injury and is out for the season, what then ? Our defence is strong because we have cover and so can rotate, we need the same in attack. I have no confidence in Adebeyor and not much in Defoe going forward so, to me, there is a major rebuilding job to do. Its not just about spending, its about spending wisely and getting the squad we need not an all or nothing signing.

jod

Tactically - will take a look as his record, maybe i'll change my view!

mattspurs1982

I can't see us forking out £24m for him or anyone. In any case I'd still rather we went for someone even younger, a bit more versatile, and not having played at a big club and potentially bringing the baggage that that can entail. You won't, however, see me reaching for the razor blades if he does come, the bloke knows where the back of the net is, and no mistake.

darkenvai

jod - I agree, I'd actually ship out defoe before Ade (the guy is a waste of space) and get 2 strikers in. Dare I say it, Damiao and a Lukaku / Cisse /Gamerio. Huntelaar is apparently on a free this summer....

mattspurs1982

I would love Higuian but last time we qualified for the CL we didn't invest any new money....what makes people think we will this time?....we still have years and years of stadium debt to look forward to....

shedboy2

Transfers will be in AVB and Levy's mind but the fiasco at the lane can be so frustrating so I don't want to take my mind there just yet I want to enjoy the 'now' and what is happening on the pitch over the next two months.However, I will make one contribution to the article - SPECULATION and until we know whether we get CL money I doubt we can really know who we can realistically go for.

thfan

shedboy2 - just think where we would be now if we'd had invested when we got into the CL...

mattspurs1982

mattspus1982................are you saying he's ***** for £24 but okay for £15. Take a look at what we've got and then possibly reconsider. He works hard and knows where the goal is. That's all we need.

Andre's Crouching

Andre's - yeah pretty much. I may be wrong as I need to look at his record but he's not really impressed me enough to blow that much money on him.

mattspurs1982

Huntelaar has signed a contract extension with Schalke until 2015, more's the pity. A quality, older striker who came "free" would also be great, as then we might be able to ease our own crop of young and promising strikers into the mix. I'm sure that Levy would agree with me.

darkenvai

But yeah compared to what we got, I'd take Shane Long at the moment

mattspurs1982

Mattspurs and Shedboy - if we'd spent that money then, we might still have Redknapp in charge. I was a big fan of Harry's, but even at the pinnacle of his career, with all the long years of experience at his disposal, he can't hold a candle to our current plucky young buck. When Redknapp was forced out despite hitting the targets apparently agreed upon at the start of the season, it became clear to me that Levy was just waiting for an opportunity to upgrade Harry. I bet he was gutted when Redknapp didn't get the England job. Redknapp was starved of funds towards the end of his tenure, but the tap has obviously been turned back on for AVB. I still don't think that we'll be buying £24m strikers willy nilly, but I think we can expect AVB to be properly backed in the transfer market...when it finally reopens...months and months from now...nurse, bring me my tablets!

darkenvai

darkenvai - good point, we would prob still have harry yeah. I just hope AVB gets the players HE wants (within realistic figures)..

mattspurs1982

Shane long isn't better than what we've got. I would have Kane ahead of him as 4th choice ha

SpursOne2

im pretty sure Shame Long couldnt have done any worse at Anfield that Jermain did

mattspurs1982

It doesn’t make him better than Defoe though does it? He hasn’t scored against us or Liverpool this season either. His stats over this season are more comparable to Dempsey (Dempsey played one less PL game) but add last season Dempsey wipes the floor with him. He’s not for us!

SpursOne2

SRV - With the greatest of respect mate, 6 months too early? In just 2 months time the season is over, not only in the PL, but pretty much everywhere apart from Russia & Brazil (I think). As soon as the season is over, and with there being no Euros or World Cup etc, ALL players who have doubts about their future WILL have their agents actively seeking a new club for them. Less than 9 weeks mate & business can begin. WHY wait until the start of next season before starting our business? Get it done early for a change & let everybody look forward to knowing what they're returning to after their summer holiday.

I agree with you, re 2 massive games coming up etc BUT those games do not & will not have any hindrance upon our transfer activity, or those responsible for it. AVB only has to say "I'd like X player please", then his part is done & he can stick to what he's doing best, ie selecting brilliant teams & deploying brilliant tactics :)

Oxfordspur - I'd like to apologise for my outburst on the "Did we miss a trick with Andros" article this morning. I know I shouldn't have done it BUT the fecking idiot (you know who I mean) is REALLY starting to get under my skin now!!

coopsieyid

hearing the Higuain rumours, I sincerely hope there is something to it. we are banging in goals and creating chances without a striker hitting particularly good form, can you imagine what we'd do if with him spearheading the attack? if we get top 4 I think that AVB will be given a fair sized transfer kitty to consolidate. he's so far shown he can guide the team on a european tour and keep punching our weight in the league, which to be fair 'Arry struggled with.

Yorkspur

Cheers for the article Ox, I don’t think it’s a pointless topic at all. This is meant to be a forum to discuss opinions on matches, players we have, players we want. Why do we have to be in the midst of a transfer window to speculate? Regarding transfers we have to look at the picture at present and make calculated assumptions. Not getting carried away but we must assume that we A) Qualify for the CL. The odds are that we will. We are still 7 points clear of a very poor Arsenal who have just announced injuries to three of their key players. Whilst Chelsea remain a threat I think we will get a result at the bridge as they are simply not playing as well as we are. B) Keep bale. Obviously we have to take point A as a given but I cant see us either selling bale or bale wanting to leave when we finish in the cL spot. Why would he be so determined to do so if he plans to leave. C) We finally buy the striker(s) we need

Personally I think ADE will be off to Russia, that’s just asks the question of what will become of Defoe. AVB has said he rates him highly, but with age against him and what looks like another very average season behind him maybe Levy will push for a final pay day on him. Higuian is very good shout. Could afford the wages, could attract him as he will be pretty much surplus to requirements at Madrid, and he wont be anywhere near 24m!! My guess would be that we start next season (or at least after the first 3 games!!) Will have a natural no9 (Higuian) perhaps a more versatile player who can play up front or on the flanks like Leondowski and Dempsey as our strikers with Coulibally / Kane / Coulthirst as our 4th choice. Not forgetting bale of course!!

If we only signed two players, a no9 and a utility forward we could set the league on fire. Just imagine a typical 4-3-3 AVB formation up of Lloris Walker Kaboul Verthonghen Fryers Sandro Dembele Holtby Bale Higian Leondowski…….ha that is scary.

hudderspur

It all depends where we finish in the PL. If we qualify for the CL in 3rd I think we might get a decent striker and possibly a lockpicker, if not we will be looking for ''buy one get one free" deals as usual. We should have learnt after 7or8 widows, that whatever we wish is irrelevant, it all depends on Daniel remembering the combination of his wallet.

frank

darkenvai- ' the tap has obviously been turned back on for AVB'...really??? I've not seen it!...AVB was here for the summer transfer window..the one we made a profit on...and he was here in January where we lavished 1.5m on Holtby to try and plug a sandro sized hole in our mid....there is no evidence that we will spend big....c16m is our record transfer fee (depending on who's add on's you take into account Bent/Luka or Bentley) I would like to see a world class striker playing WITH Bale but somehow don't think it'll ever happen...

shedboy2

Holtby was a mistake. Just not good enough. A bit overweight too.

Moscovite

think defoe will stay, he's got his faults as we all know but does seem to do well as a supersub and come off the bench and score. He's playing like a striker who knows he's not scored in a while at the minute, which in his case means he's even more greedy and going straight for goal, when he could've had a couple of assists at least since he came back from injury. but then, assists have never been a part of his game, which is probably why he's a good striker but never a great one. hope he can get the ball rolling again against Inter tomorrow or Fulham this weekend and bang in at least another half a dozen before the season finishes.

Yorkspur

Mosco - think Holtby will be a decent addition once he fits in, and we know where to play him. At the moment, he's being messed around a bit, 20mins as a no.10, 60 mins as a holding player, 15mins as a winger / wide m/fielder. He started brightly and I like his urgency / tempo but he will need coaching. He was a starter for Schalke in the CL, is a German International (no easy feat unlike England) and he's only 22

mattspurs1982

  I would think that CL qualification in third would be huge step towards getting a decent Number 9, would even think there are more than a few No.9s who would really like to play at Spurs.

&nbsp Agree that Ade will be off, Russia is the place for him.

&nbsp Defoe will stay, I think he will be rotated away from the top striker spot and used as a sub, will he accept this?

&nbsp This may well be a big transfer window for many clubs / players, as mentioned there are no Summer distractions and the World Cup on the horizon.

&nbsp Also AVB will have had a very good season to assess the complete squad, I really feel more than a couple of our loans will become first team players next year. COYS

ro6ertj

HA the indent didn't work, sorry if the above in unreadable HTML is for me a work in progress..

ro6ertj

Shedboy - you don't need me to remind you how starved Redknapp was of funds in the final windows of his tenure: Saha, Nelsen...That's a tap being turned off. AVB's purchases were funded by sales of outgoing players but that doesn't change the fact that funds, and considerable ones at that, have been put at his disposal. And that's even before we delve into the murky realms of transfers that didn't come to fruition.

darkenvai

Ok sorry for being a miserable git this morning! CL or no CL we get killed by other clubs on wages let alone transfer fee. I don't think we should get too excited. I just think it'll be Ade, Defoe, Dempsey next season unless a Holtby-like opportunity comes up. Just can't see Levy parting with £20m+ on a transfer fee + another £25m+ in wages over 3-5 years on one worldy striker. CL or no CL. Much more likely to bring in a couple of young unknowns alongside what we have who have the potential to be world class if coached properly. What we need to do before anything else is win the UEFA Cup and show that we have CL football next season - that sort of pedigree will attract the cream of the availables who are within our budget.

StillRickyVilla

Unfortunately Coops the little tw@ knows it now, so I'll remind you again that once he calls you ENIC PR or Thought Police, he's loses total credibility & shows us all a mind completely devoid of any rational thought processes. So you WIN mate, no apologies needed fella.

It's hard not to feed a troll who's idea of debate is to constantly repeat the same rant over & over again in the deluded belief that if something is said often enough, it becomes a fact. Stay strong buddy.

Spuds-U-Like

On Holtby, we were all a bit premature in thinking he was immediately up to speed, but it's also way too early to be writing him off. He's looked absolutely mustard as often as he's been disappointing, but it's too soon to jump to conclusions. People did that with Siggy too.

darkenvai

Moscovite - b it earlt to write Holtby off. He has to go through his paces with AVB before we can judge. I see this with a few of our players. Dawson was one of them- he had to improve and learn what was expected of him and he rose to the challenge and is an improved player playing regular.

Siggy is another and I expect livermore is another one going through his paces with AVB and then when AVB has worked with them and seen what he can do with these players then we will either see good results as like Dawson or we will see them moved on. Holtby imo there is a prospect but I think it is a matter of finding a position for him as much as going through some gruelling paces with AVb and learning what AVB wants from him.

Bale, lennon, Dawson, Sandro, Siggy, Defoe have all improved under AVb in such a short time, give Holtby a chance.

thfan

I like the look of Holtby, looks keen, got a great one touch pass on him but yeah course it will take time. He needs to get into the style AVB wants him to play. He’s had a couple of pretty awful cameos over the last few games but he’s barley unpacked yet!! I think he will be a great addition. One thing I will agree on, he needs to get rid of that belly the fat little $hit lol

hudderspur

I can't believe people are already judging Holtby. He wasn't supposed to be here until the summer. His coming now has helped us out of a hole with Sandro and will give him some time to settle. I don't expect to see the real Holtby until next season where I think we will see him as Parker's replacement. A midfield three of Sandro, Dembele and Holtby will make us very strong with plenty of creativity and go forward. Try and be patient please. Players that are older, more experienced and well established at Spurs (Defoe, Ade) have no excuse for being pants! Younger men who have just arrived at Spurs (Siggy, Holtby etc.) will need time to settle at the club. Given time they will come good. Not everyone can hit the floor running like Super Jan. COYS.

SpuriousLife

OK, calm down, everyone, I only brought Holtby into this discussion to hear your opinions on him :-)

Moscovite

with Siggy - the best aspect he was bringing to the team was his shooting ability, and despite an all round improvement, ironically thats exactly the one aspect of his game thats been lacking in the last 3 games!

mattspurs1982

Today of all days we've got to be supporting the Germans Moscovite!

SpuriousLife

My Maths teacher always said remember one thing along with all the others in life, Pi equals Sky, your always get that right Pi in the sky = striker to spurs Higuain, well he never wanted to move on loan in the last window, what's changed his mind, nothing is my guess more ballshi7 press. Let's allow the season to end first, before we have anymore forums on strikers.

spu 4 life

My personal view on German is: Although he was running like a headless chicken lately fouling everyone in the process, I like his positive attitude and desire to fight. As someone said here he should be properly coached and explained how to play in his position under AVB tactical approach to the game. Then we may see more of him. I also believe he was in the German squad for a reason so we just need to get the best out of him. His number one priority at the moment though is to become properly fit and make himself more pacy/dynamic/mobile/quick. But the again maybe it's all planned for the next pre-season.

Moscovite

mattspurs1982-agree he needs to score and get some confidence. he is a nearly man at finishing at the moment. i think he will come good and we will see more goals from him in the future.

thfan

shedboy2 - To be fair, our record transfer fee would have been blown out of the water TWICE is Porto didn't mess us about in the summer, and Internacional didn't dismiss our bid which was "in excess of £20million" for Damiao. That was straight from the Internacional President by the way, not from me or any supposed Levy/ENIC apologists.

Moscovite - Your comments over the last week or so have left me 100% dumbfounded..

coopsieyid

I think holtby has been very keen to impress and show his desire to the fans. this he has done, however when playing against Lyon he ran so hard for the first hour there was nothing left. his desire has also led to the fouls being committed and doing the headless chicken thing. think a few games out to take stock and observe how the team plays will help him to calm down, a few quiet words from AVB to calm it down a bit and relax and we should start to see what he can do. One things for sure, we can't question his commitment.

Yorkspur

Message received & understood SPUDS ;)

coopsieyid

The end of the season is only two months away so it is not too soon to start discussing transfer plans although so much will depend on Champions League qualification. If we qualify I really do believe some serious money will finally be spent - no use on speculating who at this stage but I am sure work is already being done. On a separate matter, congratulations to the team on such a long unbeaten run. Lets get behind the team on Sunday as we start another one - no negativity please

Doncasteryid

well said Donnie

Yorkspur

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SpursOne2

I think we'll give someone a good hiding soon... We normally have a 5-0 or a 9-1 in the locker... I'm looking at you Fulham...

mattspurs1982

Matt - I'm with you on that. I think Inter dodged that bullet last week, although through no great skill or enterprise of their own. In fact, if the winds of fate had been blowing in a different direction on Sunday, Liverpool could easily have been on the end of another Villa-esque whack in the chops.

darkenvai

coops- to be fair we would have shattered our record if the 30m for Rossi was true....trouble is we do it every window...say we had a monster bid for this or that player rejected and end up with ho-one or a bargain bin player, make you cynical!...have to say I recall the Inter quotes at less than 20m pounds....where did you get the quote?

shedboy2

we have 5 months before we need to even start thinking about transfers...don't we only do business on 31st August?....no point in having players in for pre-season is there??....see makes you cynical!

shedboy2

What you mean like last summer?

SpursOne2

It should not be difficult to find a player equal to or better than Defoe. Defoe can not hold the ball, find a mate with a pass, head the ball, find space etc. but hopefully he is due a few goals

camper

Some people have really short memories..literally like they gold fish

SpursOne2

Coopsieyid - I wonder how you'd reacted and what you'd say had I suggested that tomorrow Inter would likely to qualify at our expense? You would be shocked, wouldn't you? Well, I'm telling you this will be close.

Moscovite

For me Spurs is the perfect destination for a top striker for the following reasons:

a: They are guaranteed to play

b: Will instantly be a hit with the fans, prior to kicking a ball

c: We ARE a club on the up, including one the the best Managers around, best training facilities and new ground (soon)

yiddyboy

Summer 2012 we SPENT more than the clubs we are currently doing battle with...including Arsenal, Liverpool, Man United and City. We also acquired new boos/coaches. None of the players we signed were bargin bin, on top of that we bid big money for Moutinho and Damiao in jan... If we strengthen this summer, we all like early business (Levy did some)....but also we have to try for the last minute deals as you would be foolish to shut up shop early. We need the right players if we spend big, also we have to put ourselves in the best position to get them before hand.

SpursOne2

shedboy - http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/8459235/Spurs-have-a-bid-rejected-by-Internacional-for-Leandro-Damiao

http://sportwitness.ning.com/forum/topics/tottenham-damiao-bid-just-amazingly-rejected-because-of-currency-

coopsieyid

http://threeandin.com/2013/02/10/giovanni-luigi-confirms-tottenham-did-make-a-e20m-bid-last-month/

coopsieyid

Moscovite - I truly don't think I'd be shocked by anything you say anymore mate lol

coopsieyid

Can people help me?? I'm in Milan Tomoro and could have a free night, if I do can I get an away ticket for the game and how do I go about doing this?

spurspanther

I reckon all the worlds best strikers will want to work with Levy! Why? Because Levy won't pay the club they come from anywhere near the asking price! And Danny boy will only pay them half the salary that the other top 15 clubs in the world will pay. Levy will sale Bale to pay for his arrival, just to inspire the new striker! And of course the new striker will be so excited to join Spurs knowing that a new stadium may arrive in 2018?, 5 seasons after his arrival! And when he gets the guided tour of Danny Boys new training complex, he will tell his agent, "I must sign for Tottenham! They may have a tiny stadium, they may want to pay me crap wages, and they may have sold Bale, VDV and Modric in the space of 12 months, but that training complex in the middle of nowhere is just so wonderful, I just have to join!!!" "I Have trained all my young life to work with a football expert like Daniel Levy!!!"

pelebro

spurspanther - My sister luckily got one from some spurs fan on Twitter, shes off out here today! Might be an option? Or someone can help with that? There is of course turning up at the venu and hoping....but could be a long day. Hope you get to the match fella. COYS.

SpursOne2

here *there

SpursOne2

Cheers for that spursone2,I'll give it a go. Cheers

spurspanther

If, in his fit of pique, this hypothetical prima donna of a striker of yours should give you a bitch slap or twist your nipple before flouncing off, Pelebro, I for one shall consider it an opportunity well missed.

darkenvai

Coopsieyid, cool although I'd prefer to see you being dumbfounded by my words rather than actual result.

Moscovite

Going back to Defoe for a min - how have none of our coahces over the last 7 years told him to a) look up when in possesion and b) YOU DONT HAVE TO PUT LACES THRU THE BALL EVERYTIME YOU SHOOT! I really think if he had more composure / placed shots, he would be in double figures every year

mattspurs1982

Haha. Pele, nailed it in the head, bro.

Moscovite

Spurspanther - the stands for the home fans are unlikely to be full. You could sneak in there in your Under Armour and chant Forza Speroni all evening ;-)

darkenvai

SpursOne2- that old chestnut...we spent...well we actually made money...that's not spending is it?...and dempsey is a bargain bin deal imo...even though he's 30 and on wages that are too high for him to be sold on...So let me ask you this...we sell Bale for 50m in the summer and then buy Higuain and Moutinho for a combined 46m....how much have we spent....NET? where's the transfer budget?...

shedboy2

That dinky dingle's dangling again.

Spuds-U-Like

coops thanks for the links...it appears that we may have offered 20m euros or about 17m pounds for Leandro then....about what I thought so perhaps a million over our record...from what 5 years ago??

shedboy2

No we spent well and we were going to spend more...over what profit we made that you focused on...get it, we wanted to bring in the services of Moutinho and Damiao which you seem to think is some sort of conspiracy. When actually its trying to develop our club and show ambition

SpursOne2

You rate or slag the players as you so wish fella....as you say, your opinon.

SpursOne2

Good plan dark, unfortunately I haven't got a spurs shirt on me!

spurspanther

We need to make sure we have the space in the squad to add to it.... but actually we don't need to sell Bale to buy a new striker. As the bid in Jan shows...

SpursOne2

MattSpurs, those same coaches have probably been trying to teach him the offside rule too. Also the law of the game that says it is NOT against the rules to pass the ball to a team-mate. Defoe has flattered to deceive all his career, and this is borne out not only by his stats but by the eye-witness evidence who actually watch him play. That article this week about top footballers being of above average intelligence had me chuckling when I thought of Defoe, because he just never never EVER learns. When you actually get down to the meat of it, we essentially have no working strikers in our current starting eleven. that we are in the position we are in is a glowing testament to the work done by AVB, and by our midfield, (central) defenders, and our 'keeper. We brought in stone cold quality with Vertonghen, Dembele, and Lloris. We need to do the same business on our front-line in the summer, plain and simple. So an article like this is in no way pointless, nice one Ox. Also, the slating of Holtby is unjustified. He's over-enthusiastic, and yet to find his place at a new club in a new environment and country. His engine is incredible, his versatility invaluable, and he will be a massive asset once we can channel his qualilties properly. Come on you beautiful Spurs!!!

LilyWhiteHart

I'll believe we actually make a bid over £20m when I see the player wearing a Spurs shirt....sorry I don't buy the we nearly got Rossi (insert player name here) for 30m crap anymore....

shedboy2

Why not? Is it all always about the big money as well mate?

SpursOne2

XXX player signs for Spurs for 30 million. Could be anyone...but you will be happy? I was happy we got Vertonghen for what 6 - 9mil? He (apart from possibly Michu) is probably the signing of the summer imo

SpursOne2

So, Shedboy, you won't believe what you read regarding our bids for players, even when people are quoted saying that they have refused a bid worth Xmillion quid, but you'll believe what you read regarding Dempsey's wages and contract, despite information of this nature being private and there being no reliable way in which any journalist could get hold of it? And how can the deal be bargain bin, if he's going to be too expensive to move on?

darkenvai

Pelebro – Its ok coming on here having a pop at spurs. Who is it that you support?

hudderspur

Cheers SpursOne2 much appreciated .

ro6ertj

Welcome mate.

SpursOne2

SpursOne2- I was happy with verts and i'd have been happy with Negredo, Soldado or Osvaldo (a couple of years ago when we first linked)....it's not the size of the transfer fee, it's the quality of the player BUT our club have needed a quality striker for ages (before that it was a left mid) yet we won't put up the cash needed to get one.....then we have 'spin' about what might have been....as for believing quotes I'm yet to see a quote from a foriegn club of our offering anywhere near their valuation of their player....we may have got Leandro for £17m 18mths ago but nit in Jan...as for Moutinho we must have been really close as he was on a plane in the other direction at the time!
Dark- I can buy an old Merc for peanuts doesn't mean I can afford to run it...as for the players wages remaining confidential perhaps you would like to tell that to the players!

shedboy2

I think that we forget something when we speak of a new striker. A striker allways want's to be the star in the team, not the second fiddle or backup to someone else. In our team we have a goalscorer who's not labelled as a striker, Bale. And he's the star, he get's the glory and the goals. We forgive him for beeing selfish, because he provides the goals. And he will not change his game because we buy a new striker. If he stays another season or two, it will be because he is the main man at Spurs. I'm not sure that the answer to all our prayers are a "big name" striker. They have big egos,are overpriced and mostly unproven in EPL. A young player like Lukaku would be ideal, but the chavs will never sell to us. About Higuian: he is after Benzema in the pecking order, say's it all really!

dannylane

Shedboy - if you buy an old Merc that you can't afford to run, you haven't got yourself a bargain. As for players making their wages public, would you believe that any more than what you read in the Currant Bun? And do you really think that Dempsey's been going round telling anyone who'll listen what he's on at Spurs? If so, how comes he's being quoted differently in different publications? And, to come back to my original question, why would you believe any of the above nonsense more readily than quotes from Internacional's director?

darkenvai

Basically I don't see the need to spend big money on an established striker. I would much prefer if we scouted and found a young player 22-23 y.o., Who can score goals and work with him. I would even like Benteke and a younger guy for a total of £15-18mm. Then upgrade Hudd, Jenas, Bentley and bring in a good creative CM. if we got £9mm for the lot and found someone for £20mm, that would be an overall net spend of £30mm which could further be reduced if we also sold on Defoe! IMHO ! Actually I really don't like to speculate but I'm home sick and not much to do....LOL!

jvd

Moscovite - make a post that is actually optimistic or upbeat, then I'll be shocked by one of your posts lol

coopsieyid

LOL @ SPUDS :)

shedboy - What more do you want me to say to you. I simply showed you proof that we did bid in excess of our previous record fee. Apart from City, Chel$ki & the laughable Liverpoo, tell me another PL club that is fighting to achieve/maintain top 4 AND has spent over £16million on any single player?

coopsieyid

SpursOne2 - Mate I think you'd be best served by saving your breath. Some 'supporters' aren't going to be happy until our club is back in financial $hit, as it was before Sugar saved it & then Levy/ENIC took it to a completely different level altogether. I'd also love to know how these 'supporters' have access to the clubs finances & know why players are loaned out or sold?

coopsieyid

shedboy - "I'd have been happy with Negredo, Soldado or Osvaldo (a couple of years ago when we were first linked)... it's not the size of the transfer fee, it's the quality of the player" etc etc...

Cast your mind back that couple of years ago that you speak of. Levy DID want to sign Suarez, he DID want to sign Negredo etc BUT our manager at the time, remember him? He dismissed them out of hand because "it's hard to improve upon Crouchie, Defoe & Pav".. That same manager also turned down Michu TWICE, once for FREE lol. That is now apparently an ongoing joke amongst our coaching & playing staff.

coopsieyid

And an ongoing joke on here too? Fecking should be!

Spuds-U-Like

Yeah but Spuds, our last manager was the messiah & that means he was right in his decision to turn down the guy who has perhaps turned out to be the best 'lone striker' in the league!!

coopsieyid

Seeing as this article is about goalscorers, here's a VERY FUNNY bit of information for you.

Jan Vertonghen has scored with his last 3 attempts on target in all competitions ;).... Not funny? Well this will help the humour come through. Vertonghen has scored 4 PL goals since signing for THFC, that is 4 times MORE PL goals than Wilshere has scored for Arseanal in his whole career. :)..

coopsieyid

Really getting into this Special K chocolate pop up every time i try to read through vital spurs post's, where can i make a purchase? A purchase so it phucks off

spu 4 life

spu - You on Google Chrome? If so, just download Google Chrome AdBlock.. I've not had a single ad appear since doing that...

coopsieyid

coopsie- he was not the messiah, he was a very naughty boy.

topspur53

LOL ts53, brilliant :)

coopsieyid

Dark- I'm not saying I don't believe Inter's president- that we offered £17m pound, c£3m less than they wanted...I'm saying i don't believe OUR club...now we can blame Rednapp or even AVB but to come up just short on one occasion is understandable perhaps two but window after window??? They are blowing smoke up our asses, the one constant is Levy!....season ticket time, time to start talking up world class players...once the money is in their bank....same old sob stories....the money will go on the stadium for years...

shedboy2

Shedboy - are you Pelebro in disguise?

darkenvai

shedboy, could it also be that a lot of strikers want a better fit than Spurs? Read that as more money than we are willing to pay on wages and fees and to play and win competitions that we are not quite up to. That's fact. AVB did not go in for Hooper and others because he didn't want them. Sounds eerily similar to Redknapp decrying that there was not better out there than what we had. When he said that we had Crouch, Keane, Pav and Defoe. Redknapp wanted Forlan. Did not want Suarez. Levy was never going to pay the dosh for Forlan (any more than Cole, Ferdinand, Neville et al) and when there was a quality striker, Redknapp's scouts thought he could not play with VDV. AVB wanted Leandro. He does tick all the boxes as a striker and would have been affordable within our wage structure. It did not happen. He didn't want second rate on 5 year wages. So we will wait. He considers that we have Defoe, Dempsey and Adebayor who combined for 45 PL goals last year. Really that should be good enough. To do better, you have to hold out for better. That's what they are doing. A proper long-term solution. Something will be in place come the summer. The clear out of dead wood is almost done and we have improved our weakest links. Our starting XI may be weaker, but we are more of a team and we have a coach who coaches. It's all good and there will be a striker coming in. It won't be Falcao. It will be someone young who can be part of the plan for the next 3-5 years at least. Higuain would be very good. Doumbia as well. Leandro too. But we should also be signing players like Son and Dzagoev who can play striker or winger. A young player like Castaignos wouldn't hurt either. As I mentioned earlier, I would also rather we met the buyout for Fellaini rather than stump more for Moutinho. Then again, I'd also rather we got in for Eriksson and Belhanda rather that Fellaini or Moutinho. It's all a question of getting young quality that will fit with our possession style and who can fit within the wage structure in a team environment. It is all about the fit. Higuain may fit. If he does and it's doable, awesome. AVB and Levy will get it done, irrespective of the spin people create on here. COYS

peterballb

Oh and it is completely without merit to suggest that the on field team revenues will go to the stadium. They have not gone to the training facility and all indications are that the funding will come from non-team revenues. The stadium development has all sorts of potential money streams built in to it. Relax for now. Tell me I told you so later. I suspect I won't be hearing it though. We will not be going the Arsenal route on this one. COYS

peterballb

Awesome posts Peter. Agree with you on most of it, apart from Leandro that is! And that you can tell me I told you so later bit had me chuckling over a mouthful of breakfast. COYS

SpursEagle

no Dark I'm not Pelebro in disguise....although I can't help but think he is Geoff Stern in disguise...;) And I'm not on an ENIC out rant either, I just think some people are being Naive and there should be some acknowledgement of the financial constraints caused by the stadium that have stopped us from investing in players and the PR spin used to conceal it, after all isn't it Spurs that has made Levy a multi-millionaire?
Peter so if I can summarize your lengthy tome- we can't afford the players that we (Arry/AVB) want but the players we can afford are not good enough, really??? ...what have our scouts been doing? So we have money that we can spend on a stadium that won't stop us spending it on players....where was this money going up until now then?....smoke and mirror all you like but every penny spent on the stadium is coming from the Spurs pot....some finance with interest attached.

shedboy2

One teeny, tiny little point shed, Levy was already a multi-millionair with ENIC at the time Sugar sold out to them. Good post though mate.

Spuds-U-Like

Shedboy - glad to hear it. I don't think it's dear, departed Geoff; he was never quite as loquacious and he would never have brooked people casting aspersions at his Spursness. Geoff was always banging on about what a Tottenham lad he was; conceived in the stands and born on the centre circle at WHL and all that.
Peter's said it better than I can about financing for the new stadium, but your suggestions about Levy being too tight to pay for expensive players just doesn't sit with the idea of him paying over the odds for Dempsey's salary, especially if he has no resale value. It might say something about incompetence but nothing about miserliness.
As for Levy becoming a multi-millionaire thanks to Spurs, he was loaded before that, but it's fair to say that his fortunes have improved in line with the clubs. I can't see much wrong with that. I wish more businessman would do likewise.

darkenvai

dark and Spuds...where did Levy make his money?....and I'm not suggestimg miserliness or incompetence(although mistakes have been made)....merely the re-assigning of priorities that WILL affect our player purchases despite the spin to the contrary...

shedboy2

He made it with ENIC shed as a co-owner. Before that, I don't know & there doesn't seem to be much out there to clarify further.

Spuds-U-Like

cheers Spuds...I likle to follow the money....it's a good barometer to see how they made the money so you know the type of deals they are likely to try again....you get a sense of the persons priorities....

shedboy2

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