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Lets hear it for the boys!

Lets hear it for the boys!

Recalling the comments by Clint Dempsey about the tense atmosphere at our recent home games, I was hoping to see and hear a real positive vibe in a must win game on Sunday.

I often think that when people write such statements, they are demanding that fans simply praise the team blindly and regardless of how they are playing, but it is also obvious, that all too often we as fans have tended to get our panic's in early and get on the players backs if all isn't running to plan after the first 20 minutes or so. At the very least there has to be something in between and despite the feelings from some that when you pay your money, you are entitled to voice your opinion. However aren't we also there to support our team, even when things are not quite as we hope?

As the 'voice of reason', I have never booed a Tottenham player and tend to follow the theory that players don't deliberately set out to play badly or that managers don't pick teams to lose, but these things can happen, whether you are playing on the biggest stage or for your Sunday pub team. Of course I shout and swear at the idiot who gives the ball away or the striker that misses an open goal, but what is always important is that these moans are in isolation(ish) and on balance I support the team, regardless of whether we are winning, losing, playing well or absolute garbage.

This Sunday, our team need us and we need them to put in a top draw performance to beat a City side that have won eight in their last nine games. Even if things aren't going well, lets get behind the players and sing for the team. I never quite believe that the fans become an extra man, but I certainly believe that in supporting as opposed to being critical, eases pressure on players whose performances suffer as a result. Lets at the very least not give the players the excuse that they felt the pressure from the home crowd and instead lets get behind out team and who knows we might get rewarded with three points this weekend...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Thursday April 18 2013
Time: 9:03AM

Comments

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if the club are in any doubt about the support, perhaps they should pipe positive chants thru the sound system and ask us to join in or at least drown out any booing...
oxfordspur
18/04/2013 09:05:00
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Wish i could be there for the boys, those of the site that are going put in that extra passion for me please? I shall be watching from the box.......having kittens as usual although this sunday i do believe it will be fully fledged cats.....COYS.
Jocka101
18/04/2013 09:15:00
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Couldn't agree more. My only moments of disgust are instant reactions to a mis-placed final ball for example or indeed directed at the officials but never ever have I booed a player or performance. What good will that do? BIG game this weekend, the lads need all the help they can get.
Pride 1882
18/04/2013 09:15:00
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Jocka101, I wont even be able to watch it live on the box mate. am on a coaching course and will have to rely on recording the game :-(
oxfordspur
18/04/2013 09:19:00
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Well our home games have been pretty monotone this year, no real inspiring victories that I can think of, loosing at home to Fulham with there shocking derby record and it being such as crucial time in our season, not sure what he expects, the players are the only ones that can relieve the tension, give us something to shout about, the build up has been so pedestrian, chances squandered, Dempsey is as guilty of that as our other 2 strikers. I'm not a booer, but it drives me insane when easy chances are wasted through simple lack of composure. I will always be behind the team Dempsey, but you got a give a little to get a little.
coys1717
18/04/2013 09:24:00
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Have been thinking of writing a similar article Ox. We need to create a hostile atmosphere for teams to come to. Especially against city. Did anyone see the Everton V City game earlier in the year. The everton fans were on citeh every time they got the ball and thats what we need to do. Make White Hart Lane a ground people hate to come to. I also think we could take a few pointers from European teams... COYS!!
millspur
18/04/2013 09:30:00
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Ox that is torture pal, not to mention not finding out the result before you boot the sky box up......horrible. What course Ox? I have done my Level 1 FA certificate
Jocka101
18/04/2013 09:38:00
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PS What happened to the massive drum that used to be at spurs games. That always used to pipe up in quiet moments.
millspur
18/04/2013 09:42:00
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Of course those of us in the ground will give our full support. Unfortunately because of our end of season collapse over the last couple of seasons there is inevitable nervousness and tension amongst the crowd. It wouldn't be Spurs without it. We must turn that into a positive for the team and the fans. I really believe we should follow the pattern used by many clubs in Europe where they give access to the tannoy system to 'pre-selected cheer leaders' to get the crowd chants and singing going. It happens a lot in Italy, Greece and Portugal. I don't know if it is outlawed here but if not it is a really good way of getting the crowd going and buiilding up a positive atmosphere. It would also be nice to have the big bass drummer back in the crowd. That was always a good way of getting things going positively amongst the crowd. I'm not sure if they'll let us sing 'Yids' with the drums anymore though. One final thing that will help is having a couple of the massive club flags which the fans can pass above their heads in the stands to gee up the crowd and players. Football grounds are a little sterile these days. I know it has been done to make them safer and more family friendly which is a great thing but generating a real buzz and electric atmosrphere is what WHL was always about.
SpuriousLife
18/04/2013 09:48:00
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Probably health and safety millspur someone might go deaf or get clattered by a drumstick for being a tosser.....you know that sort of thing.
Jocka101
18/04/2013 09:50:00
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coys1717 - losing at home to Fulham was the killer. Last night our rival Chelsea go away to Fulham and win emphatically... If we want to finish above Chelsea, that is not the best way to go about it... Whilst we have the 2nd best away record in the league, we sadly have the 7th best home record in the league when approaching the Citeh game... I don't often say this, but Man C at home is a must win match in order to give us a good chance of top 4. Anything else, and we would need result at Chelsea or we are relying on the rivals to mess up. At present the rivals are improving...
TonyRich
18/04/2013 09:51:00
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Whilst I agree with the sentiment of your discussion OX, it actually really annoyed me when Clint gave that interview. The fact is, we have all seen this before, and no matter how many times the players come out and say “it wont happen again” until they start playing with confidence and winning games outright there will always be that anxiety in the crowd. 3 points is 3 points, but apart from Inter at Home im struggling to remember a game all season where I could sit back and think “this one is ours”! I don’t agree with booing, nor do I agree with clapping a pass that goes 20 yards off its target. These guys get paid an absolute bucket load for doing what they love (unless you’re BAE) so instead of blaming the fans for the pressure, they need to spur us on. On a separate note, I really thought Fulham would get something out of last night’s game before KO. We will need to play every game like a cup final to get into the top four. Arsenal & Chelsea just don’t look like losing at the moment.
hudderspur
18/04/2013 09:55:00
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We should import some of the Japanese cheer-leading supporter groups. They spend the whole match facing the crowd (totally missing the match!) singing, chanting, waving flags (rather too large and obstructive for my own personal taste) and generally ensuring that there is no negativity around.
darkenvai
18/04/2013 09:59:00
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hudderspur - agree with all of that.
TonyRich
18/04/2013 10:03:00
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fulham are already on their holidays,arsenal will kill them,
ghulamville
18/04/2013 10:03:00
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There's weight to Dempsey's comments...how else do we explain different Spurs sides, under different managers and coaching staff "bottling" it around this time every year?

It has to come down to the fans and the negative vibe we give off, fearing the worst. How many times have we each said "we must be cursed"..."same old Spurs" etc? Around this time of year, fans enter White Hart Lane expecting us to throw it away, because that's what we do.

It may seem stupid or hollow but maybe simply praising the team blindly and regardless of how they are playing could be the key to finishing above the scum this season.
KierzoSBC
18/04/2013 10:08:00
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we have to win all remaining fixtures, that's the only way we will guarantee CL football next season, no good expecting others around us dropping points, not at this stage of the season, you have to make your own luck. Congratuations on the arse is tant on the RVP goal last night, just have to hope they are all a yard behind play and defoe should score plenty.
spu 4 life
18/04/2013 10:13:00
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Agree we need to get behind the lads it is going to be a tense run in and at present Arsenal look up for it and Chelsea have the edge over us. We have to try and get something from our two most difficult games City and Chelsea and then win the rest so we need to make it hard for the opposition and us fans can do our part by getting behind our team no matter what and give the other team grief. Even if we start losing or playing bad in a game we need to stay positive and help the team pick up.

If only had we not lost to liverpool by silly mistakes and Fulham we would have been in a better place right now.

City will be up for it as Utd dropped points so they will believe they can still do it until it is mathematically impossible so anything from this game would be a good result.
thfan
18/04/2013 10:15:00
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Agree we need to get behind the lads it is going to be a tense run in and at present Arsenal look up for it and Chelsea have the edge over us. We have to try and get something from our two most difficult games City and Chelsea and then win the rest so we need to make it hard for the opposition and us fans can do our part by getting behind our team no matter what and give the other team grief. Even if we start losing or playing bad in a game we need to stay positive and help the team pick up.

If only had we not lost to liverpool by silly mistakes and Fulham we would have been in a better place right now.

City will be up for it as Utd dropped points so they will believe they can still do it until it is mathematically impossible so anything from this game would be a good result.
thfan
18/04/2013 10:15:00
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and 'we create out own reality' as individuals and as a whole. We think negative and believe we will bottle it then that is what we will create. We live our thoughts. So lets do the club and players a favour as a unit and be positive and if we want to use the law of expectation at least let it be a positive one.
thfan
18/04/2013 10:18:00
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Totally agree, but maybe we should have a 'top drawer' performance, as that actually means something.... i jest.
spurster
18/04/2013 10:21:00
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I dont know if i agree with many on this topic, know one that i know of starts the game booing, it generally always positive at the start of home games, the tension is created by the players themselves simple misplaced passes, easy chances squandered, the build up has been slow and often anti-climatic, conceding stupid goals. Take Kyle Walker and Defoe against Liverpool, 2 unbelievable errors cost us a potential 3 away points. I accept that mistakes will be made whether thats in the form of goal keepers error, mistimed challenge etc, how many mistakes can these guys expect to make before everyone starts feeling the tension supporters and team alike.
coys1717
18/04/2013 10:27:00
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Oxfordspur that chants through the sound system is a decent idea they always seem to do that on the continent & really whip the crowd into a frenzy. Some of the teams across Europe go mental for 90mins not sure if they're always positive but they're certainly lively.
Spurs Allday
18/04/2013 10:30:00
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Problem is football's become a spectators sport rather than supporters. People sit there waiting to be entertained rather than inspire the players, it's not just Spurs a lot of clubs have the same problem, maybe an influx of prawn sandwich types is the problem?
Spurs Allday
18/04/2013 10:35:00
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Spurs Allday, you are spot on there .. I live in Basel and i can tell you the organization of chants really works, especially to intimidate the opposing teams. I mentioned it on a thread before the Basel game.. Give Coopsie a bloody great big drum and off we go !!!
spurster
18/04/2013 10:37:00
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agree with hudderspur, the best thing the players can do is shut up. After the arsenal game we were all far too cocky. Will this serve as a lesson to next season?? No of course not, our fans will still shout their mouths off in November when we are 3rd and then have to eat a face full of abuse in April when we are 5th. We never ever learn. I wish the league would take away CL qualification from 4th place, then we can stop this mass hysteria and support our club for a change.
jimmy-yid
18/04/2013 10:40:00
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i also agree with spurs allday, spot on son. Football is a money and spectator sport. To hell with the rest.
jimmy-yid
18/04/2013 10:44:00
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Hahaha, Spu 4 life, trust you! This is more the kind of thing that I had in mind: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxpZlttQv1A
darkenvai
18/04/2013 10:55:00
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An appeal for support. says it all. What creates the surly negative attitude Spurs supporters "enjoy". The Evening Standard reporters or Talksport commentators do not help!. But as we grow as a club the booers and moaners may realise the corrosive destructive effect that they cause. So next season will we pay our money to boo again as usual, high paid underperformers, while we are top notch and truly great at our work?
camper
18/04/2013 10:58:00
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I think the crowd will be right behind the team and up for this one...hopefully City won't be, they can't catch Manu and who would they rather have in top4 us or Arse or Chelsea? both of who can compete with them for players....away from home c'mon City you know you need a day off!!..;)
shedboy2
18/04/2013 11:03:00
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No tean should expect Top 4 who need to call on the services of players of the """quality"""" of Dempsey and Siggy. That's is how it is and why we need a minor miracle to squeak top 4. That miracle can pnly come if all of the following happen, a FIT and very effective Bale and Lennon from this Sunday on. An effective Defo and or Ade scoring 4-6 goals before the end of the season. No further injuries, a dip in the current form of Man City Sunday. At least one slip up/drae from both Chelsea and Arsenal. And that might nto quite be enough
tophobunty
18/04/2013 11:08:00
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I took my girlfriends lad to watch Man U against Soton (now we are talking torture but i never payed a penny to their coffers girlfriend paid) but the small pocket of soton boys were out singing the mancs even at 2-1 down. Tremendous it was. Lets put it to the other half of the manc scum on sunday COYS
Jocka101
18/04/2013 11:15:00
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I'm sure Scotty, Brad and a few others be quite chuffed at being referred to as the 'boys'... as for a hostile atmosphere, I think the likes of Everton at home need to be investigated by Police. it amazes me that you can be allowed to scream blue-murder at someone in public and absolutely nothing happens to you. if the same thing happened outside a ground and the police were present then there'd be arrests made for sure..... Goodison is absolutely sickening when players go to take corners where they're verbally abused inches away Sometimes these animals do it with their own kids just next to them.... maybe cheerleaders on the sidelines could take elliminate this feral abuse, certainly worth a try.
The Gaywalker
18/04/2013 11:22:00
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all i ever here from comments when people boo is ,we pay our money ,heres a f*******n suggestion ,go and watch the telly and i will buy your tic for a mate and u can boo the telly or go to QPR This seems to happen quite a lot this season with people unhappy about AVB and Dan Levy and people wanting redcrapp back so they get on the players and AVBs back too quickly always SLAGGING OFF SAYING THE FOOTBALL WAS BETTER UNDER REDCRAPP This seems to be a new poison down WHL especially the johnny come lately supporters who expect us to win every game or perhaps thrash every team ,one prattish blogger wrote it is unacceptable that we should draw what the F**K wasnt AVBs fault that we only won 4 out 15 last season or won what was it 1 away in the second half of the season .u lot cloud over issue saying it was much better football ,yea really sounds like it ,that team underachieved bigtime If any of you went last season 1-1 aston villa one of the most frustrating games i have ever watch and a dickhead on the touch line more worried about the newcastle score then to cap it all brought brought parker on to play in front of a redundant back four who ere marking 1 player i have a picture on my wall taken in 1978-79 we went down it shows all the spurs fans taking over the west stand at the end of the leicester game and SUPPORTING THEIR TEAM SHOWING THEY WOULD SUPPORT THEM THROUGH THICK AND THIN and they did following season they did some games 40-50,000 in the ground and it does make a difference SUPPORTING YOUR TEAM BLOODY WELL FORGET redcrapp gone get the F*** over it or sod of somewhere that will take your money please coys!!!!!!!!!!!!
spur1950
18/04/2013 11:23:00
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With ref to Dempsey. Demspey is attemting to play above his level to a very large degree and as a result has often looked slow, average and the worst player in our team going forward, he has a negative impact on us more often than a positive one. As a consequence of this he gets some "stick" from the crowd. I have sympathy with the crowd but not with Dempsey. There are two parties at fault here and one other party reacting emotionally to the two mistakes made. 1. Dempsey over stretching his ability by playing for a side too good for him. 2. The club buying a player who is not good enough. I emphasise with the crowd on this one.
tophobunty
18/04/2013 11:26:00
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tophobunty- I disagree with you about Siggy. A potentially great player I think - and good now.
camper
18/04/2013 11:27:00
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Just another thing i truly believe the team owe it to the spurs boys that got attacked and suffered abuse during the away legs of the Europa league campaign. Blood and guts for top 4 please.
Jocka101
18/04/2013 11:29:00
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2nd that Jocka
coys1717
18/04/2013 11:36:00
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Just read the comments from Dawson on the THFC site, pretty much saying the same thing…”the fans need to get behind them”….Im sorry but it just seems to me like they are lining up the excuses. The fact is Michael ,the teams need to up their bloody game! Whilst I agree that when WHL is rocking we can be the “12th Man” they shouldn’t rely on it every sodding game. Like ive said I certainly do not encourage booing or anything else but maybe if they gave us something to cheer about no and again we wouldn’t be having this debate. Yes, we are in a decent league position but the quality of football pretty much all season has been poor! I mean since when have we become the new stoke!! Most of us ignored it or at least tolerated it when we were picking up the points but poor performances coupled with loosing at home to the Fulhams of the league doesn’t give me any reason to cheer. There is a difference in trying to spur the lads on at WHL and HONESTLY singing your heart out because of the football you are seeing. Its like eating a bad meal prepared by the mother in law….you put on a brave face…smile…but you both know it tastes like $hit
hudderspur
18/04/2013 11:38:00
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Camper, we will see on Siggy, but if we want top 4 regularly he is simply NOT good enough. I would prefer you were right here genuinely but on this one simply you wont be. He isnt good enough at anything to ever be great, at the moment he is a very average prem player at best. Put him in any of the teams above us? NO WAY....
tophobunty
18/04/2013 11:39:00
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Heard a few cases this season of fans being told to sit down during games or risk being kicked out, how's that supposed to build an atmosphere? All you hear is sit down or don't swear etc. Football's supposed to be a competitive sport & the crowd should be allowed to reflect that but it's become too much of a family, corporate day out to watch a PL game. You can't stand up & intimidate the opposition because you might offend the "guests" & we wouldn't want that now would we!?

spur1950 I have heard some of that myself. The Redknapp era is over & those "supporters" really need to move on for the good of the club that they claim to support. I was against the Jol sacking, especially the way it was carried out but what's done is done & I'd never undermine a new manager regardless of how I felt about a previous dismissal. The now is all that matters.
Spurs Allday
18/04/2013 11:41:00
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The blood and guts however need not apply to the 'meal ticket' a bead of sweat would be asking too much......
Jocka101
18/04/2013 11:57:00
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Allday, dead right, we are trying to sanitise football, we have human rights lovies all over all apects of life, of course non stop abuse is not good, but passion is great and passion is not always "positive" in everybody's eyes. Look at me and Camper here today, we don't agree, he thinks Siggy is good possibly great, I think he is average often pants and just not good enough for where I want us to be...we can both be passionate about our views. The crowd must be allowed to voices its opinion, ideally without abuse.... oh and abuse is not only restriced to skin colour...err or is it? i am confused on that one these days.
tophobunty
18/04/2013 12:06:00
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Off topic but here's an interesting stat:

Possession stats for 2012/13 up until now...

1. Arsenal | Average of 57.2% possession. 2. Manchester City | Average of 57% possession 3. Liverpool | Average of 55.8% possession 4. Chelsea | Average of 55.7% possession 5. Manchester United | Average of 54% possession 6. Everton | Average of 53.6% possession 7. Tottenham | Average of 53.4% possession 8. Swansea City | Average of 52.9% possession 9. Fulham | Average of 51% possession 10. Wigan Athletic | Average of 50.8% possession

7th?!!!
KierzoSBC
18/04/2013 12:07:00
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for example is this not racist? http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22194042
tophobunty
18/04/2013 12:08:00
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in relation to the article,for me its a double edged sword,catch 22,vicious circle...call it what you will!

if you are singer at a concert and the crowd are booing you after 20-30 mins,it won't exactly fill you with confidence.man u fans never booed them and look at chelsea now their fans have got behind them since rafa's rant.

i think that it might be counter productive to think 'they get paid loads of money,so when they play good football from the first min that's when i'll stop booing'.....its inevitable to get nervous this time of the season,but we should be willing our boys on win,lose or draw and get behind them 105%.right here,right now......COYS!!!
g. roberts testes
18/04/2013 12:10:00
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Kierzo would be interesting to see thos stats broken down into the pitch divided into the three zone, back, middle and forward
tophobunty
18/04/2013 12:11:00
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what news of Bale Lennon and Defoe?
tophobunty
18/04/2013 12:13:00
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Tophobunty:is it racist to try to encourage more black/ethnic minority players to become managers?what is wrong with that?i don't get your point....and no,i don't read the guardian,i'm not a vegetarian and ,beleive it or not,i'm a bit sad that thatcher has died.......oh,i'm also NOT black.
g. roberts testes
18/04/2013 12:20:00
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tophobunty:so do you think they should be encouraging more white players to become managers?haa-haa!
g. roberts testes
18/04/2013 12:22:00
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lol topho - I'd bet if you's find a difference before and after Sandro got injured...the latter would have 90% of our possession in the middle of the park going round in circles!!
KierzoSBC
18/04/2013 12:24:00
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I can understand why Dempsey and Dawson are saying this, we can make a real difference to the match and was proven against arsenal. That was the best atmosphere all season, even at the turnstiles EVERYBODY (not just one or two yidarmy's) were up for it.

But crucially in a game like city (or Liverpool, Newcastle or any non-derby big match) it's up to the players to lead by example. The obvious way is to score 6 first half goals to create a party atmosphere but realistically that isn't going to happen, so other examples is to chase every lost ball, put strong tackles in and show the fighting spirit you want the crowd to take. Aron Lennon against Liverpool done this, he run 60 yards chasing after 4 liverpool players and by the end of it all the crowd were on their feet virtually running with him.
T.H.F.Chris
18/04/2013 12:27:00
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You've missed the object of topho's point I think g. roberts. The point, I think, is that it's pointless giving any minority an "advantage" with inclusion in a shortlist. The muddled thinking behind this sort of positive discrimination, & that is what it is - discrimination, is that somehow the minorities are being deliberately excluded. There is very little actual evidence of this & the reality is that usually there are very few suitable minority candidates to shortlist.

There are many reasons why this is so. In the case of managers & coaches, there are simply not enough black players taking their badges or even interested in taking them. That is what needs to be addressed. Giving them an automatic place on a shortlist is patronising as are minority quotas designed to "reflect" the ethnic mix of society. It simply doesn't work, all you tend to get is someone appointed who is unsuitable for the task they're given, just to satisfy some mis-guided politically correct mindset. Nobody wins mate, least of all the minority section supposedly being helped.

Spuds-U-Like
18/04/2013 12:41:00
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Sing up Sing loud I'm Spurs and I'm Proud!! Get em over the line lads!!
SPUDMAN
18/04/2013 12:41:00
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KierzoSBC- the team romping the title is 5th in possession stakes...Possession ,whilst important is over-hyped these days....incisive football at the right time is what's important, the latest crop of 'managers' to graduate use possession as the platform...
shedboy2
18/04/2013 12:44:00
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I´ve been doing some run-in calculations after realizing United may win the League at the expense of Arsenal. My conclusion is pretty simple: if we get a draw against City and 4 wins (Wigan, Southampton, Stoke and Sunderland), even losing to Chelsea, will make 13 pts which would lead us to final 71 pts (58+13). On the other hand, if Arsenal loses or get held in a draw against Fulham followed by a defeat by the hands of United, even if they win all their remaining (and winnable) matches (QPR, Wigan and Newcastle), they would end up at the 70 pts mark, 1 pt behind us. Of course, this is just theory and we know how Spurs skillfully master self-destruction processes. However, it proves we still have a good chance of finishing 4th.
AlexSpur
18/04/2013 12:51:00
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g. roberts testes- if you encourage Black managers at the expense of white..that would be racist. Why are they just talking about Black coaches? what about women? Gay, Lesbian transgender? The law is clear and there should be no discrimination when hiring..how many English coaches are there in the prem?....perhaps we should encourage English applicants....there does seem to be some bias against Englishmen in the prem.
shedboy2
18/04/2013 12:54:00
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Good point shed. That's the problem with equality, some minorities are more equal than others! :-p

Spuds-U-Like
18/04/2013 13:04:00
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Well done, Oxford Spur, another of these new much shorter articles that get to the point hundreds of words fewer than before.
Airwave
18/04/2013 13:04:00
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Unless home fans support Spurs and not just when the side is ripping up the opposition, how can Spurs playing at home be an advantage? Have a good old shout of friendly encouragement, cheer, clap and laugh off some situations, and any Spurs fan watching feels less nervous and tense so can no longer transmit that handicap on to our players.
Airwave
18/04/2013 13:11:00
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Tophobunty:i apologise.i should have read the article properly before catching foot-in-mouth disease.

Spuds:you're absolutely right,just because they are 5 black managers doesn't mean that they should automatically be in line for a top post....it's ridiculous.

Shedboy2:are you suggesting that chelseas next manager should be a tranny?can you really see a woman taking over at man u when blue-nose retires?i think they are talking about black managers because its disproportionate,(which is true.5 out of 92 or 97.....?),but they should be dealing with this at grass roots levels i.e they should be encouraging all British players who recently retired or are about to retire to do their badges.beckham should be doing his badges now,like ledley.

once again,sorry about the knee-jerk reaction.(humble pie well and truly eaten,face is now egg-free).
g. roberts testes
18/04/2013 13:17:00
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Alex... Arsenal will not drop any points against Fulham, they were absolut crap yesterday. Maybe they will drop 2 points against Man U, but I'm pretty sure they will win the rest of their games. As I see it, we must win against Chelsea away and hope they slip up against Liverpool and Man U. It seems like we have a mountain to climb.
dannylane
18/04/2013 13:27:00
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Dannylane, I think we must defeat City and get a draw against Chelsea. My reasoning on the other post was just "the lowest" expectation we can link to from my chair today, that is, what if we got only 1 pt from our two "top 4" competitors ??
AlexSpur
18/04/2013 13:34:00
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g. roberts testes- no I'm not suggesting that the next Chelsea boss should be transgender (the word tranny could be deemed prerogative!) And why shouldn't a woman take over from SAF? They should be the best person for the job...I don't think that the implied problem this rule would be invoked to overcome is there(this is not the USA)....it seems reasonable that with a population c5% black just over 5% of managers are Black but I do agree 'they' should be encouraging all ex-players who recently retired or are about to retire to do their badges....And I'm not having a pop mate...;)
shedboy2
18/04/2013 13:35:00
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Arsenal fans have been booing and a section even calling for Wengers to be sacked. Did Arsenal players get effected? Well if they did they didn't dwell on it as they are looking good for 3rd now.
MrSpurs
18/04/2013 13:36:00
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if it was white promotion would it be ractist testes? the answer to that probably answers you question.
tophobunty
18/04/2013 13:37:00
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good point Mr spurs average players and average performances will always get booed....the players can do most to stop this..the problem is some are just not capable, they should not complain at this, they should improve go go down to their correct level.
tophobunty
18/04/2013 13:40:00
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g roberts- derogative!!...;)
shedboy2
18/04/2013 13:41:00
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Don't want average players and poor performances booed? Don't buy/play average players....
shedboy2
18/04/2013 13:44:00
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The atmosphere at WHL has nothing to do with it. It's an excuse. The squad collectively isn't good enough. We made CL football in 2010 and haven't kicked on since.
MrSpurs
18/04/2013 13:45:00
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It's always great hearing fans who have attached themselves to other clubs slagging off those clubs when they are playing the Spurs, because their behaviour has the effect of encouraging Spurs players.
Airwave
18/04/2013 13:45:00
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Mr spurs, i think its a good point, our squad is not quite as good as last years, chelsea's is better, so is united's
tophobunty
18/04/2013 13:48:00
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shedboy:here in england,30% of footballers are black,you can't relate the population to how many play football.does that put it into perspective?....no offence taken,we having debate/discussion.

tophobunty:i don't think that's the argument any more,i think its about quality....or is it?in a very indirect way,i think you may have answered your own question.
g. roberts testes
18/04/2013 13:49:00
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MrSpurs - In reality we are scraping for those extra points now, yet we kicked the season off with one recognized striker. The squad was not complete yet, AND we had a new manager who was still trying to get used to the EXISTING players let alone the ones yet to join... The first 3 games passed before our squad was technically ready to play. We got 2 points from those games - 2 at home, and all 3 against teams in mid-table obscurity... If we had the squad assembled one week before the kick off, we probably would have had enough points to make it comfortable come April... This is all history now - we cannot change it. It is up to the team & AVB now to sort out the home form and come at CIteh like we know we are capable of. THEN it is up to Levy & AVB to sort out the main squad options BEFORE next season's kick off to avoid this problem again...
TonyRich
18/04/2013 13:54:00
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I can't see Martin Jol getting any of his teams 'psyched up' for any match against teams that could beat us to top four as perhaps was proved last night?....Just something to muse over....
Jocka101
18/04/2013 14:00:00
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