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THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY.

THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY.

Well, that was a strange window. No signings made on deadline day and transfer record broken no less than 3 times. Conflicting viewpoints from many fans yesterday regarding the assembled squad and whether it is strong enough.

Good to see that the likes of Eriksen and Lamela have been added to give us some creativity that some feel we lack, only a plus for me as still this season the same as last we look all too slow in our build up play. Eriksen has a very important role I feel in how this team performs this season and he has the skill set to be a massive player for Spurs for years to come. Plenty of caps for his country and Champs league experience, when you consider Everton paid circa £12 million for McCarthy, you have to admit it looks like a steal the fee we paid for him. Lamela is another with bags of potential and comes with the tag of record signing. We will see great things from this lad I'm sure. Great dribbler and has a sound reading of the game. Lot of money agreed but let's not forget some of the great players Baldini has unearthed and brought to Europe in the past. The guy knows talent when he sees it.

Chiriches will offer something different at the back and in my opinion is another very good signing. Adept at bringing the ball out from the back, and with surging runs forward he could very well form an amazing partnership with Verts, very excited about this one. Chadli not going to tear the wing up with pace, but has a good first touch and when up to speed will be very effective at linking play and scoring goals. He has played AM for his country and his manager has stated that when fit he is the first name he looks to put on the team sheet. Not bad when you consider he plays for a very good improving Belgium side.

Paulinho and Capoue, well it does what it says on the tin. Very strong combative Midfielders, Paulinho has a knack of getting in the box with late runs and Capoue has a habit of, well stopping anything that moves. Awesome.

Soldado is a great finisher, make no mistake. He just needs the service, hopefully that will come from Eriksen and others more suited in the hole. Good, good signing.

Bad call I feel to get rid of Benny as we have now only got Rose as recognised LB. I know Fryers and Verts, Naughton can play there but this is not their primary positions. Chiriches and Naughton, Kaboul can cover Walker and I for one am all good with this more so than the LB. We may be considered a little light up top and I feel it was a bad call not to add another striker. Injury to Soldado and we are left with Defoe and Ade, whom i believe was pretty much told he was surplus to requirements. Not good.

The ugly side of this window has been the way we have been shafted by RM. 'Special relationship?'. Very funny, (£85.3 million for Bale makes me laugh tho').

All in all a good window, great signings. The squad is a whole lot stronger and we are the team who have improved our squad dramatically. We just need to allow AVB and the players the time to gel and get up to speed and show us all the talent that they DO possess. Patience my friends, Spurs are looking good.

Written by Cider spurs



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Writer:Cider spur
Date:Tuesday September 3 2013
Time: 9:35AM

Comments

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Well, that's me, Big C & Coopsie taken care of!

Spuds-U-Like
03/09/2013 09:38:00
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We'll be right in a few weeks
PERTH OZSPUR
03/09/2013 09:38:00
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COYS
South L/Derry Spurs
03/09/2013 09:50:00
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You should have named it ONE FOR ONE & ALL FOR NOTHING!!! So what happened to the 50million war chest i.e. at he start of this window. If someone can post a accurate figure of in's and outs our spending is what? Bale apart the incoming players are an upgrade using the word ''potential'' maybe look back to the day we sold Modric our spending is all about balance and that makes good financial sense in today's current climate, looking yesterday at the arrival of Gareth at the burn'a'bale, i started to see the light and really understand why he wanted to go, i have never seen him so happy, the sun was out, fans of all ages got in for nothing, no money was charged by real madrid to gain entrance, shirts sales, photo's sold and i thought ''you know what i would have as well'' 300 thousand a week euro's or pound's makes no odds, yes please. So the final figure was, as Big C posted the OFAH clip spending phuck all, but lost our best player in a long time.
spu 4 life
03/09/2013 09:51:00
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Wrong film!
darkenvai
03/09/2013 09:54:00
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We seem to have an excellent squad if we bring the likes of Ade back and get the best from him. Eriksen will hopefully be the one that gets the ball through to our front line. Capoue looks much more than a defensive player - great passing forward, Lamela - don't know yet? Vlad looks brilliant if he can settle in and Chadli looks like he has touches of genius but needs time to settle.. Gonna have to downgrade us from 3rd to 4th!
spurtool
03/09/2013 09:55:00
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Strangest thing is that the chavs wont sell to us or the scum as we are seen as threats.. but they did do business with liverpool! what does that say? COYS
4everaspur
03/09/2013 09:56:00
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AVB must now to-day gel the new players into a team whom they were bought to create a new look side , Dawson was rubbish against Arsenal , Walker was shakey to say the least , Chaldi although only arrived was very inaffactive , Saldado not convincing enough inaffactive , Townsend very inaffactive and outstandingly inexperienced , Dembele was far from himself inaffactive , Sandro was poor most of his passes found an Arsenal shirt inaffactive , with these guys very poor no wonder Arsenal won forget the Mr nice guy AVB changes must be made wholesale .
POP
03/09/2013 09:58:00
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There is no 'special relationship' - that was just a term invented during Modric deal. Believing that and slating Levy would be bit naive. Its everyman for himself . We are talkingabout millions - when are some of you going to realise that when we talk about deals about millions theres no mercy & people would be ruthless.

This is why even said Ozil deal done on our back - there is nothing we could have done about it. If Bale wants to finance Bale out of selling Ozil, lets face it - its their player they will send him to the biggest bidder. Remmember even Arsenal got shafted by RM in Higuain deal when they moved the goal posts.

Levy himself has done the same kind of dealings previously. Chelsea have done it time & again and fecked us with Willian. Transfer windows are cut throat business and fans are just pawns in it. Another 2 years down the line, such deals ould be seen as norm...
sydqcb5
03/09/2013 10:00:00
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I think we are in profit by around 2 million pounds. I cant help but be dissapointed with that.
Paddavis5
03/09/2013 10:09:00
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First deadline day in history I can actually look back on and say, you know it probably wasn't such a bad thing we didn't add anyone. We already have enough players to get to gel and it was only really the LB position anyone can say we possibly needed to strengthen. Some may say up front as well but I personally think that's a luxury we can deal with later on. As for LB at least it gives Rose a chance to see if he can develop...and hopefully learn to cross a ball if he's going to be attack minded in that position. I was perhaps disappointed with Benny leaving since I don't think he's any worse than Rose defensively and is certainly more productive when he does get forward, but I understand it if AVB wants to make sure all his players have the right attitude to win things. Ultimately, very pleased with the window itself. We've strengthened considerably, particularly in terms of depth and still managed to balance the books so at least AVB isn't under pressure to surpass the goal of getting us CL football next season, plus I daresay he may even be able to spend money in January if things are going to plan.
flipper
03/09/2013 10:09:00
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POP- avb can't gel anyone at present because most of our players are away on international duty and won't be back until 11th or 12th of this month, our next game being Norwich on the 14th, once he get's to work with them it will be for the better, but it will take a few weeks to find his best X1 and then i feel we will see the full benefit of some excellent players working together. Internationals before the season and 3 games in more of the same.
spu 4 life
03/09/2013 10:12:00
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How can you say Soldado isn't effective POP? He's not getting any service! When he does get the service, he sticks them away as we saw against Tbilisi. Come on fella, give him a fecking chance.

Spuds-U-Like
03/09/2013 10:12:00
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sydqcb5 - there is a partnership between Spurs and Real Madrid....
TonyRich
03/09/2013 10:13:00
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Delighted with our business this window, would have liked another left back however can't be greedy. Our manager is putting faith in rosé and Townsend so this will be their chance for a run in the spurs side especially rose. If rosé can emulate his form with Sunderland last season I will really happy. Still think we have the stronger squad against the goons
Crazyspursfan
03/09/2013 10:14:00
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Although we have strengthened our squad, I do get the feeling that we have missed the trick in not buying that 'stellar name' like Ozil for example. All we have bought so far is 'potential'. I have no doubt Eriksen and Lamela will be top quality players in the future but we need top quality players NOW.

Perhaps we should have spent £45mill on someone like Ozil instead of £12mill on Eriksen for example?

There is also the question of 'Did we spend wisely?' There is no doubt Solgado is an upgrade on Defoe but what we needed was an upgrade on Ade! I guess only time can tell...
taniban
03/09/2013 10:18:00
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Basically, last season we signed a lot of players and pretty much failed to get them to gel properly. Only really Vertonghen and Lloris....and to some extent Dembele were successful. Our play was laboured, and ultimately we needed the Bale-out to win matches and earn points. We have done it again....we have signed a truck load, and AVB has to get it going on the pitch. He has no excuse this time. It is HIS team, with his players. For the first time in his career, he is managing a team for a second season. He has completed only his second full season in management. This is the time to prove himself. Cider - as far as I know, Fryers is a left back first... So he is the cover for Rose.
TonyRich
03/09/2013 10:21:00
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POP Firstly it's ineffective and don't blame fat fingers as you got it wrong 5 times :-P
Also you and many others are somewhat overreacting. We lose one game and its season over!! Last season we had 2 points after 3 games, losing to Newcastle who ended up in a relegation battle, this year we have 6 points after 3 games losing to Arsenal away who finished 4th. In fact last year we lost 5-2 at the Emirate and also the year before that. How AVB sets up his team is to dominate possession, many teams this season will park the bus, especially at WHL. We need a team effort every week to grind out results. By selling Bale we have lost his pace in counter attacking but more importantly his goals from long range. We have replaced him with Erikson and Lamela who will provide and score goals, Soldado who will score if given the chances, Paulinho looks destined to score 10+. Chadli has goals and assist on his CV. Let's not start panicking just yet!

Arsenal signed Özil, who is worse than Modric in Madrid's eyes. By playing Özil they are likely to drop Rosicky but they have far more problems than we do once we get into the season. They have 14 maybe 15 top players, we have 20+ and over the whole season this will take it's toll, trust me.
United have only brought in Fellani and lost Sir Alex Ferguson and Howard Webb. I have every faith in AVB to achieve top 4 and have a good run in Europe. Hopefully in both domestic cups too.
yiddyboy
03/09/2013 10:25:00
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TonyRich, may be something on paper - but it is naive to think it has anything to do with transfers. When it comes to transfers its every club for itself. In Modric scenario, Levy simply didnt want to sell inside PL, so he found Madrid to be only club wanting him. So, its something that worked for him. Without partnership, Madrid gave VDV on cheap when they found that they couldnt sell him anywhere when squad no became > 25. We jumped him & got him in 11th hour. Madrid got no concession on Bale from Levy - he had done the negotiations as well as he could and Levy had no say in Ozil to Arse deal as well. Thats how it works. When you are in trouble someone helps thats 'partnership' but that doesnt mean they will always reciprocate the same thing in every single deal.
sydqcb5
03/09/2013 10:26:00
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taniban - I would rather sign Eriksen for 12m than Ozil for 45. Arsenal got royally ripped off on that one. As great as Ozil is, 45m? Obviously Real madrid have passed on the overpricing of Bale onto Arsenal, so that makes up for us indirectly giving 7m to Arsenal for Bentley's sell-on clause! Basically, Eriksen will get better, and we have potentially got a bargain. He will have sell on value, whilst Arsenal WILL lose money on Ozil. We have our star in Soldado, and Paulinho is a superb signing. We have a few unknown quantities too in Lamela and Chiriches. I think AVB's biggest problem is working out who to put behind Soldado, because after the Arsenal match, it ain't Dembele.
TonyRich
03/09/2013 10:28:00
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On the Soldado issue, if Walker had a little bit more composure in front of goal (to be fair he is a right back not a striker) Soldado would have delivered a cracking assist and saved our blushes. He's a box player, that much was known to all and sundry before we forked out all of that money for him. If we get the ball in the box, he will be worth every penny we spent. If we don't, he won't.
darkenvai
03/09/2013 10:31:00
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thats a lot of money for what i think will be a 50/50 window.....ok not easy when we bought 7...but factor in who went out and I have a feeling we havent quite got it right and in one case in particular we bought the wrong guy for our needs this season and going forward. good article Cider
tophobunty
03/09/2013 10:32:00
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There is no doubt that we have a much stronger squad than last year. The Sunday defeat and the Ozil signing have taken the edge off the optimistic feeling pre-NLD. Though that's probably no bad thing. My main concern is that we needed to sign another top quality striker. Admittedly they appear to be a rare commodity and there is now greater competition across Europe for the good ones. As said earlier an injury to Soldado and we are up against it. In a league where week in week out we will be facing overcrowded imidfields it is imperative to be able to convert chances when they come along. City, Chelsea, and ManU have better striking options than us. Arsenal about the same, but Liverpool are now back as serious competition for us and, in Sturridge and Suarez, are stronger than us. Not to end on a downbeat note, I like the fact that, in buying Ozil, the Arse have indirectly contributed to our spending spree this window.
ParkLaneBB
03/09/2013 10:34:00
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wow, some super negative posts on here today. First you give them stick when we buy on the last day, this year we still get stick for buying them early. Then you arent happy we 'only' spent £105m when we got roughly the same back. So if this window hasnt made you happy what exactly were they supposed to do for you? realistically of course .......... ah but then thats the problem isnt it. You lot arent realistic. Ok think i answered my own question there. Great business by the club, yet again let down by our own fans. Pathetic.
jimmy-yid
03/09/2013 10:34:00
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yiddyboy - agreed that results wise, losing to Arsenal away is not unusual, and is hardly points dropped. 6 points from 3 games (2 away) is a great solid start - results-wise. 2 points a game is the 70-80 points a season range. We need to keep that up. However, we do need to start playing some good attacking stuff.
TonyRich
03/09/2013 10:34:00
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If Soldado sat in restaurant and got the same service in our opening three prem games, he would die of starvation. But against Tbilisi when the ball got produced into the box, from Chadli and Townsend, well you tell me what happened next?
spu 4 life
03/09/2013 10:36:00
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TR, that's my point. All we have bought is potential and not that 'wow factor'. Also, Solgado in my opinion is not that 'wow factor'. He is a good player but not world-class like Ozil. Solgado in my opinion was also overpriced.

You have also highlighted our 'no 10' issue and that's why I feel buying someone like Ozil to supply to Solgado would have been a better bet on someone like Eriksen who is in all fairness an unknown quality.
taniban
03/09/2013 10:39:00
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This might be hard on some, our attacking 4 will be Lamela, Chadli, Eriksen, Soldado,
spu 4 life
03/09/2013 10:41:00
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spu 4 life, you got that right bruv, Townsend has done some good stuff early in the season, but needs to concentrate on doing the team thing rather than trying to be a Bale/Defoe hybrid
PERTH OZSPUR
03/09/2013 10:45:00
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spot on for Chadli!
SpursWho
03/09/2013 10:46:00
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Taniban - do you not think that the likes of LAMELA & ERIKSEN can give us more 'wow factor' ? Also, great acquisitions in terms of Paulinho & Capoue. Eriksen an unknown quality - ask Man City if they know about him when he destroyed them in CL. In fact, he has played more CL games than our entire squad probably. Unknown FFS. Give em time to shut you up at least.
Windlespur
03/09/2013 10:49:00
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taniban - who cares about wow factor? All that does is lose money as you also pay too much for players. Soldado has the same problem as Negredo. They are better than people think. But because the Spanish league is screwed up, they have a cartel of 2 massive teams that ruin it. Those 2 teams have foreign strikers and Soldado/Negredo must play for weaker, less famous sides. This ruins their international chances too. Soldado is a class player. Ozil to me is not a "wow" player, but excellent. Nothing wrong with buying potential - Bale was potential. Eriksen has only 10 less international caps than Ozil btw... so he is more than potential.
TonyRich
03/09/2013 10:51:00
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I'm really looking forward to seeing how and what ABV does with the squad over the coming months - in some ways this could be more 'transitional' than last season. I'm expecting and hoping that the defence will become more solid - that the centre mid will be powerful and controlling, as it was before we let one in at Arse. Attack-wise I reckon we'll see more overlapping from Rose on the left flank and hope he'll sort his crosses out with time. I also hope we'll see some of Townsend on that side. On the right - Lenny, when he's back should be able to pick out Soldado - Lamela - mouth watering prospect - will he link up better with Walker or Naughton? Townsend for me seemed to look better with Naughton - but that might have been that Tiblisi were ****e. I reckon Defoe will be at it whenever he's played - he's got a good attitude. I wonder wtf will happen with Ade, tho. Such a waste of talent.
DocHotspurs
03/09/2013 10:52:00
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Cider / Coops, can loan deals be made outside of the transfer window period? Just would like to clear that up..... Thanks. And I do think we had a good TW, now it's up to AVB to gel the team together!!! COYS!!!!! Nice uplifting article, Cider!
Phil-Spurs
03/09/2013 11:04:00
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if anyone is interested in our profit or loss on our in's and out's here is a accurate listing for your information. So all in all we didn't spend to much and got a fair few of the wage bill while expanding and improving our main squad, all in all a very good window if you ask me. http://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/en/tottenham-hotspur/transfers/verein_148.html
Zarjaz
03/09/2013 11:04:00
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@yiddyboy - lol at having a pop at pop with his spelling, with you all the way.
thenuge
03/09/2013 11:06:00
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Windlespur, I did say 'only time can tell' on my first post and I did say I have no doubt Lamela and Eriksen will be top quality. I will go on further by saying that I think Lamela will be a lot better than Bale too. But in my opinion what we need is someone who can do that NOW.

TR, We have sold Bale, our crown jewel, our fear factor, our wow factor. Who will take that mantle now? Solgado? I truly believe games are won before games even played and I think we lost SOME of that fear factor.

This is why I care that wow factor is important. I again stress, I have no doubt Lamela, Chadli, Eriksen and Solgado will be great players but do they scare our opponents? At this moment of time, I think the answer is no.
taniban
03/09/2013 11:11:00
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Has no one realised that when Ade played brilliantly for us in his first season, we had the Modderfocker in the side? With him gone & no proper replacement, Ade struggled last season in a side that weren't creating anywhere near the same number & quality of chances. That lack of creativity is what cost us last season, so with Eriksen & Lamela, I expect the creating of quality chances to rise substantially & if it does, then I can see us getting back the Ade we had when he first arrived.

Spuds-U-Like
03/09/2013 11:13:00
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i think the loan window is open for 2 weeks
ghulamville
03/09/2013 11:13:00
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I dont know why some want us to run the club in a way that NO other type of business would be run? Balancing the books is good I am v happy with the management and the way the club is being run We have a stronger squad than last year by a mile I wonder if Lamela can play the striker role when called on? Chadli has something about him that reminds me of Tony Galvin and I think Nacer is the type who needs confidence to bring out the best in him. Great window But we have to mould a side and now get results
mattkk
03/09/2013 11:13:00
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Everyone who isnt convinced of our business needs to take a step back and remove those lillywhite tinted glasses for a second - we may have sold one of the best players in the world, but we've made an absurd amount of money from him, and have a stronger overall squad as a result. I know we didnt have that cuting edge against arsenal but we had such a vast amount of the ball and in the end forced them to flood the pitch with defenders. Once our players understand each others movement the ball will go forwards quicker, and in turn create chances. These lads have known each other for 2 weeks, and even our old boys are playing in a new system - Wenger made the point of changing lots of players at once and he's right, considering how raw we are we did very well against an established squad like Arsenal who understand each other very well.
oi.you.there
03/09/2013 11:13:00
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I think it's stretching it to say that Eriksen is an unknown quantity. Granted, we don't know how he will perform in the Prem, but that goes for all foreign players. But Eriksen has been lauded as one of the most exciting talents in European football for a few seasons now. The only thing that I find hard to understand is why more teams weren't in for him. Fantastic talent who, despite being only 21 years old, has the experience and stats of a much older, more established player. Very exciting and a quarter of the price of bug-eyed Ozil!
darkenvai
03/09/2013 11:14:00
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Provided he can displace Soldado (not SolGado)!

Spuds-U-Like
03/09/2013 11:15:00
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Sorry bout the lack of punctuation on previous post
mattkk
03/09/2013 11:17:00
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Morning all. I’ve not been on here in a few days so allow me to sum up my thoughts. First and foremost the Arsenal game. Well it wasn’t the North London derby we are all used to and I thought it was a very cagey game for both teams. The thing that decided the match was they wanted it more. They chased down every ball quicker than we did, fought harder. Passed it quicker, but for all their efforts I actually thought we were the better team for most parts. That arsenal team has played how many matches together?? We have still got to get the system right and everyone on the same wavelength. One thing was clear though, and I hate to say this but Dawson cannot be first choice centre back. He was bloody awful

Transfer wise, if I knew at the start of the window we would have Lamela, Soldado and Eriksen I would have been a very happy man! We have brought some real quality in, Lamela is much more than a prospect guys! He will play a big part this season. I think for the 20 seconds he had against Arsenal showed his touch, vision movement are all there. I was a little bit disappointed that we didn’t manage to move ADE on a he clearly has no future with us, I mean he’s not even training with the first team. If we could have moved him on and brought in a more dynamic forward yesterday it would have been brilliant. I just think Soldado and defoe are inside the box finishers and we don’t really have another option. BA would have been perfect but its very obvious Chelsea are not going to do business with us.
hudderspur
03/09/2013 11:22:00
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had alot of the ball cos Spurs were BEHIND, thats what normally happens when you play on the counter.... isnt that what happened with the mighty C.Palace after the penalty... also Arse were not tactically balanced wit no natural left-sider in midfield after Pod was crocked. they also had Oxlade out.... thry still looked far the more likely to score until the last few minutes when we had to go gungho and they were intent on holding what they had (not how either team usually plays most of time).... and what new system ? still same as last season of flooding midfield, slow build-up due to lack of space and an isolated striker (who'd struggle in Prem even with more support).... true worth only becomes clear after a series of games against same-standard opposition and against Monaco, Espanyol, Palace, Swansea and now Arsenal the team has been fairly average at ways to win games outright... intrigued to how Eriksen will be fitted in (if he is used) as it means 1 of the central-middies will have to be benched
Ian Bale
03/09/2013 11:25:00
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No-one should doubt that we now have a much stronger squad than last year with some excellent looking signings. That's not what we so-called "pessimists" are concerned about. Our rivals have strengthened too so the question is, is there a team in there that can both excite the fans and win games comfortably against the weaker teams? AVB struggled to find a formula last year, and don't give me that record points haul guff, we missed out - Period. Don't forget that had we won the dead final match against Burnley in 09/10 we would have had 73 points, so it is meaningless. He still has it all to prove, but it won't stop me giving 100% support to the players he selects and hopefully these legitimate concerns will be proved baseless.
love totty
03/09/2013 11:27:00
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Anyway, I'm absolutely delighted with the IN's of the transfer window. Yes, the big OUT (not Huddlestone) is a loss, but that is now resigned to the history of THFC. Moving forward, we have assembled a young impressive squad with enormous potential. IMO, the PL is now more than ever a 6 way fight for supremacy. Every point is crucial and you could see how much that 1 point meant to AVB at the Emirates. The eternal optimist in me believes we will have an fantastic PL season. Expectations are high, but I am confident of a top 4 finish and so is AVB. No reason why we can't make it to Turin as well. COYS
thenuge
03/09/2013 11:28:00
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I have to agree with you there, Hudderspur. We've had as good or better a team than Arsenal for a while now, but rather than dominating NLDs we are just about equal on WLD, but have suffered some notable shellackings. It seems to me that we've swapped choking for not trying. Our players simply don't seem as up for the contest as theirs do, or our fans demand. Short of there being a total gulf in quality between two teams, that passion will often be a telling factor. Arsenal do know each other's games much better than our lot do, and, for all his faults, Wenger is a consummate match-day coach, but at the end of the day, their mob wanted it so much more than ours. I expect it to be a very different affair in March when the players know each other much better, but I'd also like them to exhibit some of the drive and passion that the Gooners did on Sunday.
darkenvai
03/09/2013 11:39:00
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Excellent first post Yiddyboy..Agree 100%!
jvd
03/09/2013 11:40:00
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Willian
PERTH OZSPUR
03/09/2013 11:47:00
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Agree with hudderspur re Lamela. I didn't give a damn when william went to Chelscum, he didn't exactly set the world alight in russia. but lamella was the one I wanted to see us get, and from the brief cameo the other night, think he's going to produce the goods.
PERTH OZSPUR
03/09/2013 11:47:00
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very good post Love totty...
tophobunty
03/09/2013 11:53:00
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We're on the same hymn sheet, Topho.
love totty
03/09/2013 11:58:00
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Spuds-U-Like interesting point but I would rather consider that ade and walker stopped performing when we changed the manager. I don't think it has to do with the departure of modric.
logos8
03/09/2013 12:00:00
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the question now is with the spend avb has no scope for manouvering.if he does not get top 4 his job will be untenable,fact.yes i get this is a more transitional year than last but football dosnt work that way.i think someone needs to put up an article WHAT WILL AND WILL NOT BE EXPECTED?
ghulamville
03/09/2013 12:12:00
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i have to say i think it was a GREAT window, hand on heart guys, how many really believed we would spend ALL the welsh fella,s money?.....Levy has done a good job, (when you include the wage bill that surely has gone up..............) what drives me mad during these windows is how can Premier league teams raking in 10,s of millions from tv etc. get away with loaning players from other clubs, WBA must have loads in the bank cos they hardly ever buy (i think they spent £11 million )....the loan system was introduced so lower league teams got some help, was,nt it?.....................rant over lol
micky58
03/09/2013 12:16:00
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Go for it Ghulamville. A home debut beckons.
Love totty
03/09/2013 12:17:00
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Arsenal play a system that allows players to slot-in seamlessly without being great players (how many of their team do you rate as individuals?) and that system is very effective. Liverpool under Rogers are doing the same, evidenced by the stat that shows they win more often when their star striker Suarez is not playing. AVB now has to create that with his new squad. Sunday seemed a follow-on from last season in that we had no tempo, no obvious desire to compete and win. OK, there were 4 players new to PL football and 2 rookies so delivering a system was always going to be a challenge, but desire to win has to come from the players and I have to wonder why that was lacking. AVB didn't help matters by selecting Dawson and Dembele who are both liabilities for different reasons but maybe fitness concerns limited his options. The need for a settled pattern of play is urgent since otherwise we will be once again dependent upon individuals eg: Eriksen to be successful. AVB is supposed to be a tactical genius so now he has to justify that label.
Harry-Kari
03/09/2013 12:17:00
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We have signed some top players make no mistake about that, it's now a case in question of getting these bloody internationals out of the way and watch this side progress, i feel we are on the brink of something very special, it's getting them working as a unit, who would i go with, well in the prem it would be; Lloris easy pick; Walker; Chiriches; Kaboul; Vertonghen; as the back four; Midfield two of Paulinho; Sandro; with capoue out injured; Lamela on the right and Chadli on the left; Eriksen into the hole; with Soldado up top; others will see it different, but that's my take on it.
spu 4 life
03/09/2013 12:19:00
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The facts are when Spurs lose VS is a festering pig hole. We win by 1 goal and VS is annoyed we didn't score 4. We win by 4 goals and VS goes mental and Spurs will win the league. No wonder the opposition have a field day with us. It's the same posters who will just never be happy. A ? Would u take CL football and a trophy this season over scoring 6 goals with Ade doing his samba dance. I would rather see a professional performance and a point win over anything else. Chelsea just sat back at United and claimed a point and he is regarded as a superior tactician... AVB gives the game a go and has majority possession against one of the best teams in the world at possession and narrowly loses after Dawson lets the whole team down phucking twice in a row. I think people should stick to their day jobs sometimes....
Mix26
03/09/2013 12:29:00
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Harry-Kari I love your post Harry-Kari but I don't know if AVB can do that. He will be my hero if he can but Liverpool and Arsenal are still big challengers for top4
logos8
03/09/2013 12:30:00
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That's a fair point too logos, either scenario could be correct - or completely off the wall! :0

Spuds-U-Like
03/09/2013 12:35:00
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Each to their own view, Mix26. Personally if I am going to spend around 100 hours watching my beloved team this season I want to be entertained. I'm not a Tottenham boy, I could have supported MU like all my chums but 50 years go chose Spurs and stuck by them for the pleasure their style has given me. If I want win at all costs negative rubbish I'd switch to Chelsea and wet myself watching their CL DVD. No chance - COYS.
Love totty
03/09/2013 12:38:00
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Mix26 our man of the match was Loris. Doesn't that tell you anything? Yes, we conceded because of rose and dawson, but overall Arsenal had the best chances. Their keeper had a relaxing time out there compared to Lloris. Considering we had 3 midfielders acting defensive that's just not good at all. We needed creativity in midfield but AVB brought Defoe. Not good enough. Bale saved avb's ass last season. Could have been a disaster without bale. AVB still has a lot to prove at this level, so far there have not been too many hints that he is good enough.
logos8
03/09/2013 12:39:00
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Please forgive me if the article seems a little rushed, i wrote it in between getting ready for work. One point i would like to raise is the opinion that at times the wingers cutting in on their favoured foot narrows the space in midfield. Lamela does not have to start on the right just because he has done so for Roma. He is considered a great dribbler and has a great left foot. We can quite easily place him on LW and Lennon on RW, with Eriksen in the hole behind Soldado. This would seem more like the Spurs we knew when Bale was playing LW. We can still have the option to keep the width if AVB so desires. With the pace of Walker and Rose overlapping the wingers, we could easily revert back to the pacy Spurs we all remember from a couple of seasons ago. Add to this Capoue/Chiriches playing quick balls out to the wing and Paulinho with late runs to the box, hopefully good crosses in will see Soldado, Eriksen and the late arriving Paulinho recieving more service. Options are there it is now down to AVB to implement the most effective ones for the right games.
Cider spurs
03/09/2013 12:41:00
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AVB proved himself last season, best point tally, most away wins, 4 points off United, all with an inherited side. The likes of Barca and PSG don't come knocking on your door if you are average. In a way this will be a determining season for him as this is now his team, his style of play, so we'll judge at the end season. I trust him to deliver. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
03/09/2013 12:42:00
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A top 4 finish will not be down to losing games like Sundays game against the top teams. From what I have seen so far all the big guns will take points of each-other. What we need to improve on is not dropping points against teams like Norwich,fulham ect.... that is what has cost us CL football in the last 2 seasons. We will not concede too many goals the way we are set up. Priority is supplying a service our front men deserve, something we struggled with last season which probably made Ade look alot worse then he might have been. Something we cannot afford to do to Soldado this season too. COYS
WestStandEnclosure
03/09/2013 12:44:00
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For all the doubters on the ability of Eriksen.....Stick my name next to the statement he will be a truly awesome player for Spurs.
Cider spurs
03/09/2013 12:46:00
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Hope you're right Italian, but you missed the most important stat -5th. It was only a points record because our last match in 09/10 was meaningless as we had already qualified for the CL playing attractive football.
Love totty
03/09/2013 12:47:00
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ItalianYiddo and Love totty: plus you have the Bale factor. It was a points record but maybe because of Bale, not because of AVB.
logos8
03/09/2013 12:50:00
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have to say Ozil is a great world-class signing that will do what Ade did for Spurs 2yrs ago: score quite a few but more importantly bind/gel the team into a great attacking unit that will produce far more goals from many other players around.... I think with Pod, Oxlade to return to and Flamini in midfield, they should get Top4 just ahead of LivPoo this season
Ian Bale
03/09/2013 12:50:00
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You can argue these things backwards and forwards all you like. If we'd got AVB in a little bit earlier and done our business quicker and better in the transfer window, maybe we wouldn't have had such an awful start and we'd have got even more points. Maybe if Mike Jones and his linesman weren't such crooks poor officials, Arsenal would've lost to Norwich and we'd have qualified in their place. The facts are that we got our record points tally but that it wasn't enough to qualify. Not bad for a young manager with an inherited team, but not good enough for what we want. Last season was supposed to be the transitional one, but, with all the new arrivals, so, it seems, will this one be. Six points from a possible nine is not a bad start, but bar is higher this season. I fully expect us to be a much more successful team under AVB, but I'm resigned to us being a less attractive one. At least for the time being.
darkenvai
03/09/2013 13:03:00
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Bale was a massive element, but our best away tally down to AVB. The previous season we had Bale, Modric and VDV and we couldn't get so many points. AVB is a top manager, still young, still learning and I am happy he is still here, he could have gone to more glamorous names a la Bale, he has a "project" here and he will see it through.
ItalianYiddo
03/09/2013 13:07:00
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Happy with the players brought in overall and time will tell if they succeed and adapt. bit concerned that we still have Ade costing us the earth and no other back up striker other than Defoe. Worse thing about this season is losing Bale simple. Resigned myself to the fac t that we will be more difficult to beat but we will not be so exciting at the moment, as we wasn't last season until Bale got the ball.
WorldPeace
03/09/2013 13:10:00
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