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Forget the Quality, Feel the depth.

Forget the Quality, Feel the depth.

There is a lot to say for quality and depth of a squad, but have Spurs currently got enough of both?

To his immense credit, Daniel Levy and his team, have once again managed to spend big, yet actually make a profit when we compare sales to purchases, and though so much of that was down to the sale of one man, the facts remain that we added real quality of players, whilst hopefully addressing issues from last season, where we lacked creativity and an ability to break teams down, even with the outstanding match winning performances of Bale.

So far this Premiership season there hasn't been much evidence of that changing. Our lone striker still looks horribly isolated and we have so far lacked that creative spark to utilise our usual possessional and territorial dominance. Fingers crossed that with the new signings of Christian Eriksen and Erik Lamela, and the return of Lewis Holtby, we will at last have the lock-pickers we need to turn promise into results.

The big question is though is how we make best use of these players and how they ideally fit into our starting XI? Will they instantly gel with their team mates or will they take time to settle to the team and the physicality of the Premiership? We know that Holtby is very able to influence games, but is his long term position deeper in the midfield or playing off the front man? For me, we perhaps need to see him deeper as we so desperately need a player with energy and a creative spark in the centre. But at the expense of who and how would we best set the team out? Play him in a three, and who missed out, Paulinho, Sandro, Dembele or the currently injured Capoue?

Of course in attack, we can play Lamela anywhere across the front three/four, but does this mean we miss out Townsend, Lennon, Sigurdsson or Chadli? You assume you can't play more than two, wide, with one or two perhaps being able to compete with Eriksen, or Holtby behind the main striker. As fans we always like to big up the new players, especially those that cost big money or come with big reputations, but is this the season where a player like Holtby can establish himself in the team over others, who we currently assume will be in the side? Watching him against Tblisi last week, he was the best player on the pitch. That may not say much against an opposition that were poor and a home side that was in the main going through the motions, but he has also been highly praised in two U-21 games since returning. Three goals in there starts, is impressive, regardless of the quality of opposition.

What is a real plus is that you don't see any real weak players that a manager has to carry in the squad. Sure there are improvements that could still be made, some still have to settle and others improve with games and confidence, but over all. Question is, do we have enough experience and also depth in numbers to compete both in the Prem and also in Europe? So many loans of the likes of Livermore and Carroll might actually be considered to have weakened us in secondary depth, as we really lack experience in youth, which for all the potential benefits in the mid-long term, may again come back to haunt us in the short.

Perhaps if we get lucky with injuries, we will be fine, but despite the obvious quality in the main squad, can we really afford too many injuries, especially when we have one or two returning from long term injury and someone like Adebayor, who could knuckle down or be banned from the training ground, depending on his mood. On balance, we have upgraded the squad, with the exception of losing Bale. Fingers crossed that Chiriches is a better option than Caulker and the others fit in quickly. What will remain a worry is whether we are still one or two light in numbers, especially as we are lacking players that you feel are instantly ready to step in from the U-21s. Last season we lacked bodies and cover in certain areas. this time I feel we have the quality of cover, but do we have the required number of bodies to cope in all competitions? I suppose we will have to wait and see...

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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Wednesday September 4 2013
Time: 11:24AM

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G'day to all from Down Under :-)
Madaboutspurs
04/09/2013 11:26:00
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No, we haven't.
chrishove123
04/09/2013 11:38:00
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stronger squad.... weaker team.
Ian Bale
04/09/2013 11:42:00
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Fair question Ox, good post too. A I've said before and been castigated over, I think AVB wants players that can play in more than one position. Not square pegs, round holes but adaptable players like Lamela, Eriksen, Capooue, Chiriches who are all multi positional. So I would assume that we are pretty well covered barring really injuries to same type players. Although I thought we could do with better cover for Soldado, not sure we could survive with Daffy and Ade ( depends which Ade turns up). Really strengthened the depth of the squad and should have some spare money for January if necessary.
longtimespur
04/09/2013 11:47:00
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Don't know how I can add my thoughts to "Buy of summer" when haven't seen half of them kick a ball in anger yet. Bit premature with that poll me thinks. Put it up again come Christmas and then I'll have a better idea. Over half so far for players who, apart from Lamela's few minutes Sunday, haven't played at all.
longtimespur
04/09/2013 11:52:00
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Lot of talk about 'lock-pickers' but when teams put 6 players in the penalty area there is nothing to pick unless you are Messi. Playing the high-line compresses play and further reduces the available space which demands players that can create their own opportunities just as Bale did last season. Maybe Lamela will be able to do that but Soldado isn't that type of player. I think AVB has to sort out his tactics . Arsenal gave us a lesson on how to do it........attack, score first, sit back and play on the break. The challenge for us is scoring first......or at all.
Harry-Kari
04/09/2013 11:52:00
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Simples: Lloris Walker, Kaboom, Verts, Rose 2 of Demb, Paul, Capow, Sandro Lennon.Townsend, Eriksons/Holtby, Chadli/Lamela Goaldado/Defoe Like I say, simples!
olliewebb
04/09/2013 11:56:00
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HariKari.... 2nd best post of the thread there, and possibly day.... its the system that needs changing and this delusional craze for 'lock-pickers' is just another red herring.... you gotta give a little (space) to get a little
Ian Bale
04/09/2013 11:58:00
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In terms of the midfield 3 IMO it should be Sandro or Capoue holding, Paulinho or Dembele box to box and Eriksen or Holtby as the creative link. Holtby showed he can do that against Tblisi, and while not the strongest opponents, that has no bearing on the vision and skill he showed to create those chances. Up front I'd much prefer to have 1 primarily to cross and one as an inside forward/inverted winger so something like Townsend on the left with Lamela on the right. Soldado's the wrong kind of forward to have playing in front of 2 inverted wingers...you either need someone big and strong to hold the ball or someone who plays a bit deeper who can run past defenders.
flipper
04/09/2013 12:06:00
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AVB's Porto side played a high line wirh 3 defensive midfielders, two attacking midfielders and one striker. Difference is we have Soldado but Porto had Falcao as the main striker, a completely different striker to Soldado as we know. Falcao can play off the defenders shoulder or come short and use his power and strength to hold the ball the link up play. If they need to hit the long ball he has enough pace to get behind the defender. Also one of his biggest asset is his ability in the air. Dare I say it the only player who comes close is Ade. So my point is if we starve Soldado of any service Spurs is bolloxed. Porto had one player who made the difference. That man is Falcao. COYS!
James1
04/09/2013 12:12:00
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Kind of agree with you flipper. I said on an earlier post, play 4-2-3-1 with Sandro and Pualinho rotating with Dembele and Capoue. Attacking three rotation of Lamela, Lennon, Townsend, Eriksen, Chaldi, Holtby, Siggy. this will offer defensive cover and powerin midfield while also ofering pace and creativity in attack and should also link the lone striker to the rest of the team. Due to injury and lack of players we have seen Dembele and Siggy being deployed as the central acttacking midfielder but it hasn't really work - yet
Slurms McKenzie
04/09/2013 12:13:00
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James1 I don't think the players we signed signal a return to the Porto style AVB deployed.Tthe squad we have means we can now play numerous different formations from 4-4-2 to 3-5-2 and everything in between. That makes us unpredictable and far harder to set-up a team against us.
Slurms McKenzie
04/09/2013 12:16:00
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I'm absolutely terrified. Last time we spent big 70m or so we were *****e (Bentley, Pav, Modric, Bent, Gomes, Gio...) At least we've got more points than this time back then! Looks like we've got real depth and quality, best of both. It'll help challenge on all fronts and will surely pay dividends in the last stretch of the season.
ScottyTooHotspur
04/09/2013 12:17:00
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Harry-Kari, pretty much nailed it IMO,
coys1717
04/09/2013 12:21:00
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Slurms McKenzie yes I agree with your point with different formations but against Arsenal it was a 4-3-3 with Dembele at the point of attack? Again Soldado was starved of any ball. If Ade was the striker and on top of his game Spurs would have had different options to play in the striker. COYS!
James1
04/09/2013 12:25:00
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OX...I posted yesterday that i do not feelwe need 2 DMs if we are to take a challenge to teams. Holtby alongside Capoue or Sandro imo would be a combative MF, ball winning attributes from Capoue or Sandro with the attacking build up play from Holtby ( who is also more than capable of getting stuck into tackles in the middle. Eriksen or Lamela ahead for further creativity. Better still Lamela LWF and Eriksen AM/no.10. Try and secure a lead and then if need be bring on a MF 3 of Capoue, Paulinho and Dembele to offer the ability of seeing the game out and securing the 3 points. Paulinho could be an alternative to Holtby in this role, and yes he does get forward, but as of yet he does not move the ball as quick as Holtby. Worth a look imo.
Cider spurs
04/09/2013 12:25:00
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i would add that the speed in which it takes to get from defence to an attempt is way of the mark, has been for a long time. Thus, enabling the opposition to pack out the 18 yard box. I wonder if any of the Spurs coaches read these threads.
coys1717
04/09/2013 12:26:00
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Slurms, gotta say I much prefer the 4-2-3-1 set up the way you said particularly against tough teams where we need that defensive screen with the ability to counter very quickly. Only time I'd change to the 4-3-3 he's trying is against the teams that park the bus so we can keep possession and patiently wait for the gap (with a proper creator of course instead of 2 box to box players).
flipper
04/09/2013 12:26:00
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*Lamela RWF, not LWF*
Cider spurs
04/09/2013 12:27:00
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Why doesn't soldado get off his arse and track back ... He is not world class ... He has to put effort on also ... 26 millions reasons in the box striker is not acceptable in the modern game if that is all be can do he will get found out he has to drag defenders out to let our midfield in etc ... We are a stronger team this season ... Levy has done great yet 3 games in fans are griping at his signings thfc is a business he has done tremendous to get in who he has with budget restraints .... Lets wait 15 games before we write the team off!!! I am chuffed with our squad no complaints and glad are stayed he will come good this season
Aussie yiddo
04/09/2013 12:28:00
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Aussie Yiddo, Soldado was at first but when he did and made intelligent runs back into the box the likes of Sigurdsson, Dembele, Townsend and Paulinho were instead taking long range pot shots and he's since given up and I don't blame the guy. Chadli's also suffering from not having someone he can utilise in the middle that's gonna make quick passes back and forth with him. Once we get Eriksen and Holtby settled behind the striker we'll see more from both those two I'm sure.
flipper
04/09/2013 12:35:00
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dont want to see Soldado tracking back if i'm honest I want him in the box where he belongs playing 5 across the middle, there should be no need for him to track back, we talk up how much Ade did for the team in terms of linking up play but no-one was in the box to finish anything.
coys1717
04/09/2013 12:39:00
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There's no problem with the quality of our players, be it the Magnificent Seven or the Incredible Incumbents, we've got ready made class and bubbling potential in every position. Even with Bale leaving there's been a net gain in team and squad quality. I'm not even convinced that there's much of a problem with the tactics, from an effectiveness point of view at least, although aesthetically-speaking they may not be all that we've grown accustomed to. The issue is - and there shouldn't be any surprise at this given the number of new arrivals - players getting used to each other and the roles that they have been given to play within that tactical formation. I fully expect it to take time for the team to gel. I wasn't so much surprised by how we played against Arsenal at the weekend as the lack of passion on our side, and the solidity of the Gooners in defence.
As for fitting all of the players in, that is, of course, impossible. Having strength in depth is not just about being able to run another horse when you've flogged one to death, it's about having various options for differing situations and opponents. I fully expect there to be articles in the weeks and months to come arguing the toss about our best 11 and best formation and for there to be the same level of disagreement on what they are as we always seem capable of arriving at. Exciting times.
darkenvai
04/09/2013 12:40:00
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Harry kari good post mate, add to that inverted wingers and the space centrally around the box is even more congested.....to me it plays into the oppos hands who want to sit back....think of this problem another way...a team goes down to ten men, what happens? 1 they take off a forward usually, 2 the sit back deeper, 3 you start to use more and more the width of the pitch to pull them out of shape....why does that not happen for us when we play against 11 whi sit back?..........................James1 good point Soldado is a one dimensional CF...play to his strengths or waste your money....
tophobunty
04/09/2013 12:41:00
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Need a bigger set of balls, we play defence first and attack is second fiddle, countless sideways and backward passes bores me, we have undoubted quality in our squad now so we should be expected to win games but this means we must go out to primarily score lots of goals. I'm sure our centre back rarely break into a sweat with our centre midfielders lying so deep, we must start taking the game to the top teams expecting to win.
sirlordos
04/09/2013 12:41:00
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James1, AVB didnt play 3 DM's at Porto, he played 1, Fernando, with 2 of 3 playmakers (Belluschi, Moutinho, Guarín) playing in front of him.
Guyver
04/09/2013 12:46:00
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sirlordos, very well said....
tophobunty
04/09/2013 12:51:00
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"Lockpicker" Has truly arrived in the shape of Eriksen, great link here and well worth a read.I suggest you watch the video that accompanys the article. Treat yourselves, i think it will give you a little bit of reassurance relating to the lack of creativity. Check out the Goalscoring chances created as well. Amazing!. http://hotspurhq.com/2013/09/04/christian-eriksen-of-tottenham-the-danish-genius-video/
Cider spurs
04/09/2013 12:53:00
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I stand corrected. Not 3 defensive midfielders but you had Fernado as the central midfielder playing a more withdrawn role (Capoue), Belluschi the attacking midfielder (Dembele role) and Paulinho in the Moutinho role. COYS!
James1
04/09/2013 12:59:00
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http://hotspurhq.com/2013/09/04/christian-eriksen-of-tottenham-the-danish-genius-video/
tophobunty
04/09/2013 13:01:00
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Sideways and Backward passing, it's called possession; we could just get Dawson to lump it upfield (oh he does that or falls over bringing the ball out) shame we never signed Andy Carroll and Kevin Nolan and play like Wet Spam. Just get these internationals out of the way and all come back fit and well, then AVB can start to work with the new players and the old together, come christmas we will be top of the prem, so i can't see the problem really, as they say at Roma, no need to Pjanic just yet.
spu 4 life
04/09/2013 13:01:00
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Agreed Darkenvai, it is much more an issue of allowing the talent in the squad to gel together. Chances have been created and we have been wasteful. Dembele is not the creative spark and against Arsenal, I was very disappoined to see him back in a role that he had not looked in the least comfortable against Swansea. Should have been Holtby or Sigurdsson and going forward Eriksen is in the mix. We are a greatly improved squad and I expect the depth will show in the quality we have in options on the bench and in the Cups. It will take time for everyone to understand their roles. 7 new players, Kaboul, Townsend and Rose are essentially new. Patience grasshoppers. 6 points from 3 games and 8 goals in Europa. I think we'll be ok. COYS
peterballb
04/09/2013 13:03:00
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Spot on Cider; Eriksen the ''lockpicker'' Ade the nose picker
spu 4 life
04/09/2013 13:04:00
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Good man topho..You on it as well ;-)
Cider spurs
04/09/2013 13:07:00
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No Eriksen the Norse picker! COYS!
James1
04/09/2013 13:12:00
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What I like most from the little ive seen of Eriksen, is that he drops off into space and always makes himself available for a pass, something you won't see in a 3min Youtube clip. Currently, there isnt enough passing options for the player on the ball and I think that is 1 of the reasons our play looks so slow and labored.
Guyver
04/09/2013 13:13:00
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Guyver...Holtby and Eriksen will address this no doubt.
Cider spurs
04/09/2013 13:15:00
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its all so very well and good to say play this guy and that, but for every addition there has to be an omission.... the predictable clamour for flavour of the week Holtby is cresting I see but if...as seems very likely... Eriksen is used in the 'hole' then who out of Paulinho, Dembele and a fit Sandro do you bench ??.... Lamela at RW so means Lennon (already seemingly deillusioned) is benched along with his tracking back to cover Mr Gungho Walker.... still ultimately leaves team with a striker that is essentially useless unless you set him up in the 6yd box.... maybe shudda got Romario out of retirement in that case, or even Lineker (still looks world-class in the 6yd box to meywayz)..... when alls said and done, its gonna boil down to whether Ade returns or not, to bind all the components together = Top4 or sixth (or worse)
Ian Bale
04/09/2013 13:20:00
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We need to wait and see, but I reckon 1st team Lloris Walker Kaboul Verts (BAE) Rose Paulinho Sandro Eriksen Lamela Soldado 2nd Freidel Naughton Dawson Chiriches Rose Chadli Siggy Holtby Lennon Defoe Can't be bad eh?
SPUDMAN
04/09/2013 13:21:00
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I disagree with some of the comments here about us not having strength in depth. We have 'deeper' squad now than we have ever had. Left back aside (which has been debated to death) we now have at least two decent players in every position. Of these 22 players, every single one is a full international with the exceptions of Rose, Fryers, Naughton and Townsend (who is likely to get a cap very soon). Outside this 22, we also have Siggy, Gomes and Ade who are also international players. That makes 25 and we aren't allowed any more in the squad anyway. For a team outside of the Top 4 (for now) to have 22 of 25 of the squad as full internationals is pretty encouraging in my book. Before anyone starts criticising the quality of international football and the fact that caps are meaningless - I get it. But it is at least an indication that they are good quality players and have been recognised as such by others outside of THFC. That leaves the question of who should be in our best XI and, as some have pointed out, this should be horses for courses depending on who we are playing. I would love to see a front four of Soldado, Lamela, Eriksen and Lennon/Towsend/Chadli and I would expect that to be the case at home the majority of the time. However, if we are away at Old Trafford (for example), it seems sensible to bring in Holtby/Dembele/Paulinho/Siggy for one of those four positions to firm things up a bit. But hey - thats what AVB gets paid a ton of money to decide isn't it? If anyone is still sceptical of the quality we now posses, remember Docherty, Ghaly, Ricketts, Dalmat, Bunjevcevic, Nethercott, Acimovic, Caskey...I could go on.
whyteheart
04/09/2013 13:23:00
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Cider I read your suggestion about playing both Holtby and Eriksen against certain opposition and have to agree. I'd happily concede a little defensive stability for more creativity at times. Thats 3 good CM's sitting on the bench though, ie Sandro, Paulinho Dembele, I can't see AVB doing that somehow...
Guyver
04/09/2013 13:25:00
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Holtby reminds me a bit of Nick Barmby who loved to link up play and move forward, though Barmby was more of a goalscorer. He was a great busy player for Spurs before he made the stupid mistake of leaving Spurs. COYS!
James1
04/09/2013 13:29:00
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I think flippers got it...two bodies for each position in CM....as for giving space ie dropping the back line...it's something we should have perhaps done more last year...daws is too slow on the turn and we had electric pace to hit on the counter with two of the leagues best wingers:Bale and Lennon...it was that pace that made teams sit deep against us and allowed Bale to come in and shoot from just outside the box (ie they were too deep)...we no longer have the same qualities in our wingers so imo we've built the team for a pressing game and we're going to make it work....weak link for me is LB...I want Soldado working within the width of the penalty area...
shedboy2
04/09/2013 13:30:00
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Agree peterballb re Holtby instead of Dembele, said it before the game and after. couldn't believe it when the change wasn't made at half time, even more incredulous when it was and it was Defoe brought on instead of Holtby. He would have been raring to go after his MotM performance against Tbilisi, and would maybe have added the spark,enthusiasm,passion and incisiveness that we were clearly lacking.
PERTH OZSPUR
04/09/2013 13:30:00
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Ghaly was very decent and only a naive reckless moment ended his Spurs career, and Dalmat was fantastic in that season he played on loan with his searing pace.... and doesnt every team have failed players outta 50-70 players used in any 5yr period, so quoting the likes of Ricketts and Caskey (homegrown at that) is just plain silly ??
Ian Bale
04/09/2013 13:33:00
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AVB will use Holtby for EL and purely as backup in Prem.... rightly so.
Ian Bale
04/09/2013 13:36:00
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yes, its a squad game and we have cover everywhere, ok some not as hot as some areas, but its good to have different formations against different teams, what works against one type wont work against others same for home and away games. still think will take maybe 10games grinding out results before it all clicks into place, but it will happen
Algarvespur
04/09/2013 13:39:00
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....................................Lloris.........................................................Kaboul.......Chiriches...............Verts...................Rose.........................................Sandro.........................Holtby.......................................Lamela...................Eriksen........................Chadli...........................................................Soldado.............................................. Not conventional maybe, but that'd do me for a starting 11
PERTH OZSPUR
04/09/2013 13:47:00
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We have both depth and quality. At the end of the season our depth should ensure we are still competing on all fronts and imo its better than having just a quality starting line up. I believe we have more depth than arsenal, liverpool and Utd. Starting 11 is probably not too different in quality between the 4, although going forward we are probably weaker than them. Almost all (maybe verts and pauli exempted) will have to prove over the coming 2-3 seasons that they can be considered top class. But all that means is that Spurs can get better and better without needing to spend crazy money on players.
2ndeleven11
04/09/2013 13:47:00
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There'll be a strong bench. And AVB knows how to use the bench.
ledders77
04/09/2013 13:48:00
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ooops, that didn't come out as expected
PERTH OZSPUR
04/09/2013 13:48:00
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Time will tell but if our first 3 games are anything to go by we lack the top class quality in midfield to open a stubborn defense.
MrSpurs
04/09/2013 13:51:00
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We had a better XI than Arsenal last season, but a weaker squad than them. That is what cost us top four. We ultimately put too much reliance on Bale, and also onto players who could not produce it: Defoe, Dempsey, Siggy. Now, our squad is better. The only reliance we have is on Soldado, but even then if he is missing, we go back to our best option from last season. So we have upgraded. Too early to assess anything really. We have merely played 2 away matches and 1 home match. We haven't seen much of Lamela or anything from Chiriches or Eriksen. Vs Arsenal, we conceded whilst on top, and then the game changed. Dembele does not look like the answer behind Soldado. The positives? 2 points a game, 1 goal conceded in 3. I believe that Paulinho will become our focal point. Next to him will be Capoue/Sandro. In front will be a combo of any of our attackers or Holtby/Eriksen - in various positions. Dembele/Holtby will also fill in for Paulinho from time to time. One thing is for sure, that the role of the guy behind Soldado is to support and supply him. This guy needs to make decoy runs for him. To be another body in the box when a cross comes in. To be a nuisance. Also to chip in with goals from time to time. This is my primary concern. There is little point in buying Soldado for 26m if you do not give him a chance to score besides from the penalty spot.
TonyRich
04/09/2013 13:51:00
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lol PERTH, couldnt see that formation scoring too many tbh, might concede a few though! Poor Lloris ;)
Guyver
04/09/2013 13:51:00
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PERTH - you are right...that isn't a conventional 11...
TonyRich
04/09/2013 13:53:00
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yeah Guyver, but he'd have plenty of cover from the left :)
PERTH OZSPUR
04/09/2013 13:54:00
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We also need to be a little less harsh on Soldado - despite his fee. It is his first time playing outside Spain. Perhaps Aguero hit the ground running when moving to England, but most foreign strikers take time: Dzeko, Suarez, Giroud.... 3 games only. He is a gem. Just wait and see.
TonyRich
04/09/2013 13:57:00
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Yeah, If they decide to step back onto the pitch PERTH lol.
Guyver
04/09/2013 13:58:00
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the illustration below looks confusing but is an amalgom of 4231 and 433...you just drop the AM or DM...brackets are the back up's in the position...

........................................Soldado...................................
............................(ade, defoe,lamela, chadli)....................
....Chadli...........................Eriksen.................Lamela........
(gylfi,Townsend)............(holtby,Gylfi).....(lennon,Townsend)
.................Dembele...........................Paulinho.................
............(holtby,Paulinho)................(capoue,Sandro).........
.........................................Sandro..................................
..................................(capoue, Paulinho).........................
......Rose....................Verts..............Kaboul..............Walker
(Verts,Naughts,Fryers)(vlad)............(Daws)..(naughton,Kaboul)
...........................................lloris...................................
....................................(gomes, Brad)..................................
shedboy2
04/09/2013 13:59:00
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...and even Aguero got just 12 goals last season....
TonyRich
04/09/2013 13:59:00
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Http://whatbaleearns.co.uk/ Lucky ******** lol. COYS!
James1
04/09/2013 14:01:00
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Anyone interested there is a petition for us to cut ties with Real Madrid http://www.change.org/petitions/tottenham-hotspur-football-club-end-the-strategic-partnership-with-real-madrid-2#sign
Mark Morgan
04/09/2013 14:04:00
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Perth Oz.. agree Holtby should have come on for dembele 2nd half
Block D Spurs
04/09/2013 14:12:00
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Thanks TonyRich, just realised I forgot Paulinho to the left of Sandro :)
PERTH OZSPUR
04/09/2013 14:13:00
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Hi Block D. Yeah think we missed a trick there. Dembele just looks a bit off the pace at the moment. Not knocking him, he's class, but something not right with him at the moment.
PERTH OZSPUR
04/09/2013 14:14:00
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A much better compilation of Eriksen (over 8 min long). I'm so excited to see this boy play! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi5DkSuUmI8 COYS!
James1
04/09/2013 14:15:00
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Once Capoue is fit again, I can see AVB choosing Paulinho, Sandro and Capoue ahead of Dembele, who has been poor thus far. Hopefully, we'll see Eriksen in the hole who will provide options to Paulinho/Sandro and feed Lamela/Chadli. I have been a fan of Dembele, but he is really struggling with the role required of him this season. Sandro holding, Paulinho box to box and Eriksen the fulcrum is our best bet for mine. On the squad, the left back has little depth and I can see Vertongen playing there in the premiership alot this year if Danny continues to have his lapses like that against Arsenal.
LOS Spurs
04/09/2013 14:18:00
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Its stating the obvious after the Bale sale, but of the teams fighting for top 4-6, we are now the only ones to be without what I would call a proven "superstar" of the game. Van Persie, Aguero, Suarez, Ozil, Mata - and Spurs?? All successful teams have had at least one world class player, I just cant see where he is at Spurs?
LOS Spurs
04/09/2013 14:25:00
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LOS Spurs, it'll be Lamela
PERTH OZSPUR
04/09/2013 14:29:00
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Hell, we might even have two, Lamela and Eriksen
PERTH OZSPUR
04/09/2013 14:30:00
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I hope your right Perth...alot of pressure on the lad to deliver.
LOS Spurs
04/09/2013 14:30:00
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How can we assess we haven't seen enough of the players yet. We can assess on paper, and say yes strong squad better depth but football isn't played on paper.

We will know more about the signings at Christmas and we may find it may take longer than that to see the full potential of a player.

I think Coupe looks strong but he needs to keeps his hands to himself otherwise he will pick up a lot of bookings. Sandro will get back to his best. Paulinho is a good buy but needs time to adjust to the pace that will come and then I am certain he will be more creative and score us some goals. Chadli has set the stage alight yet and I think he will be one of those players that will take a season to adapt, he seems to be playing safe not to make any mistakes but not really expressing himself, give him time.

Lamela, Eriksen and Vlad haven't played for us to know you cannot count Lamela few minutes. I would have thought Eriksen is going to be the main creative force but I also think Holtby will be pushing to get some stars and impress. I think we need Lennon back asap to bring some PL experience because although Townsend has done ok he doesn't have the experience of Lennon and I think Lennon is more of a threat with his movement, Townsend a bit one dimensional and a bit greedy at the moment but he is learning his trade. I also think we need to see more of Ade and Defoe again for PL experience. i don't think we should disregard these players that have played in the PL. They should be part of it while the foreign imports find their feet.

Overall I think the job of AVB and the players is to get as many points as possible while they adjust to the PL demands and get to know each other. It is not going to happen overnight so we need to be patient. If we ca stay in the mix by xmas and find the right balance on the pitch and get the players gelling then we will have a good season. However, it could fall apart over the coming weeks if we drop to many points while we are in transition.

I am staying positive that we will see a strong Spurs side hard to beat but probably not play pretty football for a while and probably only score odd goals but expect to have narrow wins from now until xmas and once the team gels and the players adjust we will go on to become a top four team.
WorldPeace
04/09/2013 14:32:00
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LOS Spurs - I think your right, successful teams have that special player. Utd without RVP would be a different Utd and same with Arsenal with Giroud and now Ozil City have a couple special ones and Liverpool have saurez. However, we may find we have one or even two - Lamela and/or Eriksen
WorldPeace
04/09/2013 14:35:00
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LOS Spurs, Lloris is a superstar, Sandro was our best player last season until injury and earning rave reviews, Verts will be in every premier league team of the season, Paulinho will have world cup medal next summer and is fast becoming the complete midfielder in the premiership. Lamela has all the potential to be a super star, Soldado just needs the sevice and is a super star. Eriksen would already be a superstart if he was with a more glamorous International team. thats just off the top of my head before we see most of our squad with a premier league season under our belt. I don't think you'll be on here next may bemoaning Spurs lack of "Superstars".

And isn't it strange how all the superstars you list only operate in the attacking end of the field so really we don't have any Youtube / Match of the Day Superstars...
Slurms McKenzie
04/09/2013 14:36:00
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LOS Spurs- agree with perth but I think we have the best Keeper of the lot...world class..in goal...
shedboy2
04/09/2013 14:38:00
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