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Tottenham Hotspur vs Hull City

If Thudd scores I will eat my scarf!..........Danny Rose and Younes Kaboul are still injured which means Verts will probably go left back again, especially as Fryres pulled up at Sheriff and AVB has finally realised that Naughton is no good at left back. Paulinho, Andros Townsend and Kyle Walker will probably start after being rested for the midweek clash with Sheriff Tiraspol. Hull are definitely without injured goalkeeper Allan McGregor and Danny Graham, while Sone Aluko (calf) and Robbie Brady (hernia) are major doubts. Jake Livermore is ineligible to play against us.

We are 3 points behind the league leaders this season in 5th place. At the same time last season we were 5 points behind league leaders in 5th place! So why are we feeling so uneasy? Last Sunday was Tottenham's fourth successive away win without conceding a goal. Not a bad record, but.........!

Against Sheriff Chiriches looked good which is about as much as you can say about the game! Sheriff have not won a group game in Europe for three years. Somehow we managed to make them look like a real threat! Once again we survived on a night when the result outweighed the performance. People are asking when is Lamela going to show up? Eriksen is looking out of his depth all of a sudden. These are good players, they don`t become bad ones over night,. Is it the system that we are playing that makes us look so predictable? Sheriff bossed us and yet again we seem clueless against a packed midfield.

Andre Villas-Boas on the the Villans Match: 'It was a great performance. We improved with time because the beginning was difficult, as we had lots of longs balls to deal with. 'The opening goal was important to bring confidence and we really played well in the second half. We deserved to go 2-0 up. 'It was the right response after the defeat by West Ham and it is good to see us near the top. 'Andros Townsend had a great game. He didn't start well but really picked up after his goal. He is a great threat. His pace and ability to beat a man, he takes the team forward.'That is the key. Does AVB bring confidence to the players?

The thing is we get results using a formation and a style of play that just doesn`t make you sit easy in your chair. Yes, Andros Townsend did score a goal but he didn't really mean it. But at last we built an attack from the left and at last Roberto Soldado helped create an opportunity which he finished. Roberto Soldado's finish was the mark of a true 6 yard box goal poacher and that is exactly where we need him, in the 6 yard box.

The chant from the terraces used to be "boring, boring Arsenal" Take a look at what kind of football they are playing now and what we are playing. Why? Where has our speed on the counter gone? Where has our pace on the left disappeared to? Our home form is not as good as our away form but to be fair, apart from the Scum, we have not had that big a test. Our next away match is at Everton though. Are we really going to get a result at Goodison playing this brand of football? We have the two Manchester`s coming up Citeh away and Manure at home. We need to give them a right go. If we push the ball around playing slow link up play against them we will get punished, especially if we lose the ball in possession we will be having to get everyone back behind the ball because we are playing such a high line.

This Hull game is a chance to test out some speed on both wings with Lennon and Townsend alternating the wing attack, get Soldado in the 6 yard box and put Holtby or Eriksen in the pocket. Sandro and Dembele sitting in front of Vlad and Daws with Vert at LB and Walker at RB. With Eriksen and Lamela still not hitting form and Chadli not quite establishing a true position we still do not know our best or first 11.

This Hull Performance will also be a test because the conditions on Sunday predict high winds that will make set pieces, crosses and long balls unpredictable so I am hoping we can keep the ball on the deck and play some direct attacking football. Let`s have a performance to go with the result and let`s put a show on for the White Lane Faithful!

Coys

Written by OyVeh Maria



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Writer:OyVeh Maria
Date:Saturday October 26 2013
Time: 4:18PM

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It's one of those days for lots of micro-bets on Spurs scoring first and winning by x-number of goals
darkenvai
26/10/2013 16:26:00
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If Thudd scores, I'll eat his hair!
MAN ON!
26/10/2013 16:33:00
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My prediction for what its worth, is 1-0 to spurs, perhaps a slightly below par performance, but against a team that doesnt score or concede many. the only thing that might change that imo is that Spurs score early and open Hull up, equally hull are short of key players, so I may well be totally wrong
oxfordspur
26/10/2013 16:33:00
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dark...does that mean we will struggle to win 1-0?
vicspur
26/10/2013 16:34:00
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I'd like to see Dembele shooting, if he plays.
82spursdebut
26/10/2013 16:42:00
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vicspur - O ye of little faith! My initial £10 free Skybet now stands at £112.17. When I say bet your bottom dollar you empty your purse ;-)
darkenvai
26/10/2013 16:42:00
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Happy as I am with mostly positive results this season, I'm now getting desperate for an exciting, uptempo performance, with a few goals! I'm at the Lane tomorrow and I want something to shout and cheer at! Up the Lilywhites!
MAN ON!
26/10/2013 16:50:00
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I DON`T BELIEVE WE HAVE FOUND OUR TRUE SYSTEM YET AS QUITE A FEW PLAYER`S HAVE NOT STOOD UP TO THE OCHE , HOLTBY IS WEAK , LAMELA IS HAVING A TORRID TIME AJUSTING TO THE EPL , CHALDI I THINK IS OUT OF POSITION , CHIRICHES FOR ME IS VERY UNSTEADY THERE AGAIN TRYING TO SETTLE DOWN , ERIKSEN IS VERY UNSURE JUST HOW TO ADOPT , FRYERS IS A WEAK DEFENDER , NAUGHTON HAS BEEN PLAYED OUT OF POSITION BUT REGARDLESS TO THAT HE TAKES TOO MANY CHANCES AND GIVES THE BALL AWAY A LOT , AS FOR DANNY ROSE HE WILL NEVER BE GOOD FOR SPURS . MY STRONGEST TEAM WOULD BE LLORIS WALKER DAWSON KABOUL VERTONGHEN LENNON DEMBELE PAULHINO SANDRO SOLDADO TOWNSEND . PROVIDING ALL ARE FIT OF COURSE .
POP
26/10/2013 16:52:00
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I will be at the match too, hoping for a big score and performance, if not then any win will make my journey home easier.
Kong
26/10/2013 16:56:00
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Pop you love your capitals. Seems you've had your caps permanently since you first posted a year or two ago. Lol :-|
strawboy
26/10/2013 17:01:00
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theirs no respite at the top,we simply need to win,what with everyone winning,we will finish 7th by the end of the day
ghulamville
26/10/2013 17:05:00
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What's all the shouting about?
darkenvai
26/10/2013 17:07:00
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I thought we WON our Last 2 games 2-0....and that includes a AWAY PREMIERSHIP game.
82spursdebut
26/10/2013 17:16:00
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POP, SHALL I SHOUT AT YOU NOW?>/p> Anyway, Fryers is young, Naughton needs to be given a bit of a break when out of possition, he gives the ball away as he can't play the balls he knows and is used to. We failed to sign a LB in the summer and though Rose has been VERY GOOD, the best at the back in a couple of games and alright the rest of the time, I don't know why people hate him?

Eriksen, Chadli and Lamela are not the finished article of Ozil, they have also come in with MASS CHANGES, it takes time FFS, Ozil has slotted into a team, we have built a new team, it's about time people accepted that and realised that although not perfect it's very early days (Arsenal probably don't have the squad to keep it up) and Bale and Ronaldo didn't make it overnight!

This site seems to be a hive of negitivity nowdays and it's truely depressing, we have the best defense we have had in 20-30 years, we have a bigger and stronger squad that most and 'it happens (AKA West Ham).

I would have throught watching the laughable #MOYESOUT twitter trend earlier before the sudden change of winds would have reminded us of something WE OF ALL CLUBS SHOULD ALREADY KNOW.

Get a grip, stop moaning and support your team.
stu_u2k
26/10/2013 17:35:00
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Is there something wrong with Paulinho Oveh? Other than Paulinho and Soldado, I think the rest of the new players are struggling. That's not to say they are not good enough, just struggling. With that in mind, maybe that's why don't look so convincing. I don't know, just a thought. I won't complain because we are picking up points. I expect us to get better. Avb will likely start with lloris, walker, Dawson, chip his, Verts, Paul, Sandro, sig, Holtby, Townsend, Soldado.
asherthesmasher
26/10/2013 17:39:00
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asherthesmasher I think even struggling might be slightly harsh, settling maybe more relalistic still at this stage.
stu_u2k
26/10/2013 17:54:00
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stu_u2k welcome to the big groan. Nothing pleases many on here. We could win by 4 and there are at least 10 posters who will take over the site and tell you who al the *****3 players are and how bad the tactics were and why didn't AVB play so and so versus to x. Oh and my favorite, x was played out of position again. And just wait and see what happens if we draw or lose. I hardly come on anymore because of the negativity.
jvd
26/10/2013 18:13:00
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If he plays Siggy & that boring system i will eat my pants.
We sing what we want
26/10/2013 18:15:00
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bye JVD....I'll eat your pants WSWWW
tophobunty1
26/10/2013 18:51:00
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wswww and Topho I think you both will be eating pants when the team is announced tomorrow
Kong
26/10/2013 18:55:00
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Kong I`ve got big hopes for tomorrow.Siggy & Defoe will be rightfully benched,free flowing jaw dropping football to have us begging for more.

I`m going 4-0,maybe 5-0 to a rampaging, unstoppable,electrifying Spurs team.
The birds who do the weather are right,a major storm is brewing in London.
We sing what we want
26/10/2013 19:01:00
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i think you could be right there Kong....can i eat mine and wswww eats his?
tophobunty1
26/10/2013 19:01:00
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wswww i like it, I will be there so let's hope what you are saying is true, I wasn't sure about this storm but I am liking the sound of it now
Kong
26/10/2013 19:03:00
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Stu_u2k. I agree,rose has been very good. Until the players are settled in we are going to have to continue to grind. I like the way avb sets his teams up. I always have. I like the way we squeeze play. A lot of the top teams play that way. Until the new players truly start finding form and the old players gel with the new players, it just worn't look pretty.
asherthesmasher
26/10/2013 19:05:00
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Too late Topho, pants eating deal already agreed :), i am going by what wswww said now, much better than pants eating and keeps me positive until I see the team tomorrow
Kong
26/10/2013 19:05:00
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I don't get what Dembele offers us which makes us stronger, im not player bashing but he slows our play down too much. People always say it's our lack of width or blame inverted wingers for our approach play being slow, when in fact it's the heart of the midfield which sets the tempo, Modric set that tempo for us with quick incisive passes which turned defense into attack, whether it be forward passes to the wings or defense splitting passes, modric would make this team tick. Maybe Holtby can fulfill this role.

A must win tomorrow, if Chelsea and City draw we can go 3rd with a win.
spurfect one
26/10/2013 19:44:00
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asherthesmasher Until the players are settled in we are going to have to continue to grind Until the new players truly start finding form and the old players gel with the new players, it just worn't look pretty. ......................................................................... Couldn't agree more. I wish more people would see this and STFU with their infantile thatcherite "I want it all NOW" attitude. It is really pathetic how some on here are so bloody negative and just don't seem to understand the dynamics involved in putting a new team together, let alone virtually a new SQUAD. I am happy with the way things are shaping up, and as I have previously said on here to the moaners who are never happy, look how long it took Citeh's players to click with each other, and look what happened when they did. So just shut up stop your childish whingings and support the team and the manager as we are doing well enough for the time being.
chrishove123
26/10/2013 20:17:00
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OK chrishove, although I think the new lads are already settled as we are performing exactly the same way as we did last season but without Bale to bail us out. I accept that it's pointless to complain when the team are performing exactly how the manager wants them to and results by and large are going our way. Whether this will be good enough for a CL place only time will tell, but Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool are playing a different system and are setting the early pace...maybe it's case of the hare and the tortoise.
Harry-Kari
26/10/2013 20:58:00
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Spurfect one,agree on the dembele point and holtby would be perfect for his place ! Coys.
bazdog
26/10/2013 21:07:00
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Maybe Dembele should play behind Soldado. Ghost past a or two and set Soldado on his merry way in the box ?
Arky
26/10/2013 21:23:00
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Holtby can ping passes in from deep to Dembele and yet has the engine to cover the high line.
Arky
26/10/2013 21:25:00
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Agreed Chris Hove. There's a pattern with those kind of posters. When Spurs win or when a maligned spurs player plays well or scores a couple or scores the winner, these kind of posters are no where to be seen until a new thread arrives. They are very conspicuous in their absence. I often wait and wonder whether they'll post on those kind of days...... But their silence is deafening as it is disappointing. From the perspective of a purist we are not playing attractive exciting football. But you know what? Our style of play has become pragmatic. We are winning more games, tighter in defence, 3 points off top should we win tomorrow, squad depth, cruising in the Europa league, 2 points better off than last season, our current manager has secured us a record points haul, we are difficult to beat, joint second best defence In the league and all this with 7 new players bedding in. We are still work in progress but we remain competitive on all fronts. The football we play this season has been methodical/ boring /un exciting call it what you will, but we can only beat what is in front of us and we have remained competitive where we are expected to be. I don't have a problem with the negativity, I just have a problem with the not giving credit where credits due.
strawboy
26/10/2013 21:30:00
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Bazdog, arky, some people argue that Holtby is too weak physically to play in that position, they said the same as Modric too, i'm not saying Holtby will be as good as Modric but you get my drift.
spurfect one
26/10/2013 21:36:00
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I predict a narrow win followed by a lot of moaning.
matt hoten
26/10/2013 21:43:00
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Matt I predict a lot of moaning whatever the result.
strawboy
26/10/2013 21:47:00
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matt, strawboy, stop moaning about the moaning lol :), i get what you're saying but will it just be easier to skip them comments? Opinions on forums will differ no matter how stupid some are.
spurfect one
26/10/2013 21:51:00
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Spurfect, I think that tomorrow is the perfect day to try a few new things. Holtby will do fine IMO. Shake it up AVB.
Arky
26/10/2013 21:53:00
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Any maybe Dembele can/will dribble/out muscle a few Hull players to create time and space for Soldado in and around the box.
Arky
26/10/2013 21:57:00
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Spurfect one, I know. I generally skip those posts or don't get involved in the usual post match squabbles that goes on for a few days after the points have been bagged. I am sure they'll be posters on here who won't get why I feel so optimistic this season.
strawboy
26/10/2013 22:08:00
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Lennon is back and I expect he'll play. Townsend will play, so the likelihood of Sigurdsson playing on the wing is pretty remote (Chadli and Lamela are there too). If Sigurdsson starts (he may well relieve on the left) it will be in place of Eriksen, in the middle, which is Sigurdsson's position. I do like the idea of Holtby playing beside Sandro, but I expect we'll see Sandro and Paulinho out there. I don't agree that AVB has "found that Naughton is not good enough on the left" and believe he will start on the left with Rose probably back on Wednesday. Dawson and Vertonghen in the middle with Walker on the right. Lloris in goal. I do also have a feeling that we will break out in this one. Soldado to show exactly why he is worth 28M. COYS
peterballb
26/10/2013 22:17:00
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From Hull's point of view, IMO, game against us is made for Thudd. They'd expect him to ping the ball over our high line and if they have any pacey threat, we'd need to be damn alert. Thudd doesn't have any pace?....well, neither does our midfield (or even our build up). Need an early goal for us, else another tight game. COYS!
Critical_Spur
26/10/2013 22:45:00
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spurfect...dembele can go past players centrally, who else can do that?
tophobunty1
26/10/2013 23:04:00
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i was thinking the same thing Peter about Soldado. i think he gets another one tomorrow maybe two. Would love to send the home crowd home buzzing. Looking forward to watching Hudds as well. Lets get on them early and put a few up there in teh first half. Paulinho and Sandro in the middle for me. Lennon left, Townsend right to start and Holtby behind soldado with Eriksen coming on around 65-70 mins. Wud love to see the two wingers swapping and giving Hull fits. COYS.
YankeeSpur23
26/10/2013 23:06:00
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Lamela Soldado

Townsend Paulinho Sandro Lennon

Verthongen Chiriches Dawson Walker

Llorris

ItalianYiddo
26/10/2013 23:11:00
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Tophubunty, sometimes a defense splitting pass or keeping the ball moving quick can be just as effective as going past players centrally.
spurfect one
26/10/2013 23:23:00
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This has become an absolutely "must win" game for several reasons. 1) We need to lay the ghost of our past home game, the humiliation v West Ham, 2) All of our near rivals except Chelsea and Man City (playing tomorrow), have won today, so 3 points to stay in touch is a must, 3) It is now time that we laid down a marker, with a decisive rather than a "finger tips" victory, as some of the others i.e. Liverpool, Southampton have done today.
Frank
26/10/2013 23:33:00
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On a completely seperate note, hat's off to Michael Jones tonight the ref of the Cardif game, it only Howard Webb & Clatten**** could use their brains like that we might have done a little better at OT over the years, another example last week in the Chelsea game, nice to see a non-issue for a change, good call.
stu_u2k
26/10/2013 23:44:00
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Daily Mail reporting on our stadium http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2477641/Tottenham-Hotspur-courting-NFL-make-plans-65-000-stadium.html

As someone said last week, they say we want a sliding pitch to use for NFL & Football. And last week's 49ers visit also makes sense now.

This is good news....
sydqcb5
27/10/2013 01:55:00
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Liverpool are pi$$ing me off. Now I understand how other teams felt when Bale was single handedly dragging us last season. Suarez & Sturridge doing the job well for them and that is a understatement.

Likes of Everton & Southampton too looking good.

At the moment, I can compare our performances & results to Southampton. Both have similar template, go about doing professional job, no fuss, stop the other team from playing, be patient and take the chances when its presented. Bit mechanical less entertainment but job done.
sydqcb5
27/10/2013 02:23:00
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As for as Hull game is concerned, as others have said, its a must win game, so that we stay in the lead group.

Hull are without 4 key players -Aluko, Brady, Livermore, Mcgregor. Surely we should be winning this game, given their midfield which was helping in their defence is not there for the game.

My XI for the game

Lloris,
Walker, Dawson, Chiriches, Vertonghen
Sandro, Paulinho
Townsend, Eriksen, Chadli
Soldado
sydqcb5
27/10/2013 02:32:00
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50 posts on a pre match thread. Narrow minded individuals def taking its toll on VS. OM again uses an article to ridicule our team and manager. Seems using the squad is just stupid after posters moaned about wasting our best team against Sheriff. There is no pleasing a fool it seems. Maybe we should just go back to the Harry days " what have they got to moan about? They've seen some of the best football in recent times here, I don't think anyone can be disappointed with us"
Mix26
27/10/2013 06:09:00
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Mix26, agreed it is difficult here these days. Either there are trolls or other posters who believe only their opinion counts & ridicule and abuse others.
sydqcb5
27/10/2013 06:20:00
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2009 0-1 loss and 2010 - 0-0 draw.
Visiting Hull has been a difficult fixture in recent years. Hopefully, we get 3 pts today and march on
sydqcb5
27/10/2013 06:24:00
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sydqcb5 make no mistake, these individuals have been banned not just once but several times. What's sad is they seem to be getting popular and now have to deliver on their popularity...
Mix26
27/10/2013 06:40:00
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It's probably too early for AVB to go with a 433 but I do hope he experiments with it at some stage today. The weather will def affect the match later by the sounds of things which nullifies Thudd and their long balls so I expect hull to struggle to adjust to the conditions.
Mix26
27/10/2013 07:34:00
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spurfect I understand that of course...the option to have both is obviously a much better balanced set up and it keep the oppo guessing so for two reasons have both is best.
tophobunty1
27/10/2013 08:04:00
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spurfect I understand that of course...the option to have both is obviously a much better balanced set up and it keeps the oppo guessing so for two reasons have both is best. But did I say i would start Dembele today anywhere on this thread? No.
tophobunty1
27/10/2013 08:05:00
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Arky they are two good and to a degree untried, but it is positive and I not sure it is acutious enough for our current manager, who I beleive currently is showing all the traits of a manager who has too much fear to lose to allow him to set up to win.....he should be Italian (sorry Italian).........................Syd Suarez can do that because he is the bets player in the prem as he clearly was last season, in terms of peformances on the pitch, ability and contribution to his team when viewed against the overall performance of his team.....
tophobunty1
27/10/2013 08:13:00
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William Gallas is going to play over here in Australia!!
E17YID
27/10/2013 08:17:00
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Hi spuddies buddies. Shalom ;) OyV Maria - nice preview... but wait a sec, if Tom scores you'll eat your scarf huh? Wow, can't seem to get my head around that; do you mean the scarf itself or the chicken impression on it? I know you lot love chickens.... But seriously spuddies, I hope you lot win today as Hull Tigers should be one of those "winnables" for you imo to stay within touching distance...and above manure, before you start your predicted losing streak against Everton, City and Moyes' manure. So, COYS ;)
HGH Magic
27/10/2013 08:22:00
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For Australia E17?
tophobunty1
27/10/2013 08:22:00
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nah Melbourne hearts or Perth Glory! no in the Aussie version on EPL
E17YID
27/10/2013 08:23:00
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Yeah E17YID - dude went down under to Perth Glory, Western Australia. Good for the A-League you'd presume. You live there? How's my favorite Del Piero getting on? Still banging 'em in?
HGH Magic
27/10/2013 08:26:00
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guys I see then beating us will put 10 behind ball 1 counter attack score and defend and we will have no answer to it!!!
E17YID
27/10/2013 08:29:00
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^why do you see that?
HGH Magic
27/10/2013 08:34:00
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Blimey, any insight or clue for us mere mortals or eternal optimists like darken, peterbalb, longtimespurs, coopsieyid etc???
HGH Magic
27/10/2013 08:36:00
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E17...could happen that way but we really must beat this lot esp with their players missing. So much depends on how AVB pick it up, I dont see why he would want to keep it narrow at home to a team well below us coming here with top players out who will not doubt park the bus, if he does it just helps even it up for them. HGH i once beat Del Piero 3-0 at pool and I am not great at that, that season he was injured long term and joked with him about playing for Spurs, he didnt for some reason.
tophobunty1
27/10/2013 08:36:00
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Am expecting a good performance today, today is the day to get everyone happy, well most of us anyway.
Kong
27/10/2013 08:39:00
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^^'cause I don't think you should have any business dreaming up a top4 finish and CL footie if you lot can't beat, make that comfortably beat, a depleted Hull side!
HGH Magic
27/10/2013 08:40:00
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Just going back to a post regarding Dembele. Apart from being able to dribble past players in the middle what else does he offer? COYS!
James1
27/10/2013 08:40:00
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It seems that when Dembele passes players he then doesn't make the forward pass, it's either him not being confident enough to take it forward or even shoot or not enough space for him to do anything else, he is a top player but for some reason not doing it, very strong on the ball, he can offer a lot more
Kong
27/10/2013 08:46:00
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Hey topho, pool or snooker game you mean? If yes, well I'm not sure Alessandro plays that much. Maybe he does nowadays or was just messing around with you, and the balls?
HGH Magic
27/10/2013 08:48:00
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strength and keeps the ball well James1, there are two more things he does well. Like all he makes mistakes, but not like all he is constantly playing inner left receiving the ball back to him sideways and backwards and because of that total predictability he is closed down very quickly everytime, more than most others apart from Townsend for different reasons. I think this encourages him to do what is natural to him more often more deep lying, which is go past his first man, which is very positive further forward but a risk deeper which is where is is often made to be by the left side when the left side is set up narrow with two right footers. Would I start him today? probably not. I would start Eriksen though if i didnt start Dembele because without both you have VERY limited creativity centrally and if AVB starts two right footers on the left you have a VERY narrow and negative set up, the result of that is likely to be a certain brand of football and a more even game.
tophobunty1
27/10/2013 08:50:00
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all of that HGH and it wasnt these days. So i am in the clear. goodbye to you for the day.
tophobunty1
27/10/2013 08:52:00
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Goodbye
HGH Magic
27/10/2013 09:11:00
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1.Highgatespur188
2.Sir Dick Caan188
3.MAN ON!139
4.Nick Real Deal123
5.Taricco the yid95
6.80deg16minW85
7.Real Deal80
8.BelgianSpur65
9.steveperryman60
10.Topspur160