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Reasons to be Cheerful!

Reasons to be Cheerful!

Sunday's result was disappointing, and as has been pointed out on this site, every time Spurs have the opportunity to jump into the top three, something goes awry.

However, there are reasons to think this could yet be a season to remember - as long as AVB gets some decisions right in the next few weeks. Although I hate losing the game before the international break, it may give our boss the time he needs to rectify a few issues, and see some crucial players make welcome returns before the Manchester City game.

The loss of Danny Rose cannot be underestimated. We have been missing so much balance to the side without him. He provides natural width going forward, and his loss has meant a move out wide for our best centre back Vertonghen. Despite him performing admirably, moving your best player into their second best position is obviously detrimental to the team.

The break will also mean Etienne Capoue will be able to work on his fitness, and I believe he is a vital component in the two games we face against the Manchester clubs. Both teams like to pack midfield - City with Toure, Fernandinho and Milner, United with two in the middle but Rooney dropping off. It is vital we match them and for me Capoue has to start alongside Sandro and one other.

I hope AVB is able to look at his attacking options, as only a blind man could fail to see glaring issues. I understand inverted wingers, but they are not being utilised in the right way. Cutting inside is all well and good, but if you do it every time, it becomes easier to defend against than a winger who always goes on the outside. All that happens is the opposition dedicate one midfielder to come across and block the inside channel. In Newcastle's case it was Cabaye.

The winger must be able to go on the outside as well, rendering the opposition midfielder ineffective. The player who can do both is Lamela, as shown is brief cameos against Arsenal and Cardiff, and in various cup games.

I would keep Townsend and play him initially on the left, although both could swap. AVB must look closely at certain players who haven't performed to their best this season. Dembele (who I have never really taken to) needs a rest to be able to find his best form, and while I like Paulinho's drive and momentum, he must be knackered, and will be more so after international duty. Eriksen has yet to hit any kind of form. These are great players, and form is only temporary, while their class should be permanent.

The depth of our squad can afford these guys, all of whom will be on international duty, a break. Then we come to Emmanuel Adebayor. He must be welcomed back to the fold. No club can compete with just two strikers, whether you are going for the league or trying to stay up. It is a glaring error.

Not only that, but Ade is exactly the player we need right now. Big and strong, and bringing others into play. Somebody like Holtby would love to play with him. I like Soldado, he is a clever player, and I like Defoe too, but we must be able to go two up top sometimes, and to make that unpredictable we need at least three strikers.

Spurs fans must remember that despite some big issues we are five points off top and one point of Champions League. Same record as United. Second best defence in the league. Our points tally so far equates to 69 points at the end of the season. We are a bit short, but what did you honestly expect? We should have beaten Arsenal and Newcastle, and probably Chelsea. We are playing well, and had we beaten Arsenal we'd be joint top. I won't go off on one if we lose to City or United - or even both. We must stay patient.

Last season was the same, and there were calls for AVB to go after we conceded two late goals against Everton. We then went on a hot streak right through until the end of February. I can see it happening again. Lamela, Eriksen, Vertonghen, Lloris, Paulinho, Sandro - they would get in any team in the world. Remember that and get behind your team and manager.

Written by Sebastian Short



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Writer:Sebastian Short
Date:Tuesday November 12 2013
Time: 7:56AM

Comments

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Good, positive article, Sebastian, with some well made points. As I've said before, Capoue and Sandro would be awesome in the middle ... with Paulinho? Lamela and Chadli on the wings would also work for me ... unless Townsend is prepared to stay mainly on the wing and play for the team! It's the 'ifs' and 'buts' that make it all so interesting ... and frustrating! We all complain (and rightly) about our goal average but City are a point behind us and look at their average It's a funny old game!
Geofspurs
12/11/2013 08:12:00
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Needs to read a positive article after our understandably bitter last cuple of days. Everything you say is absolutely true, and thing is as well is critics and fans of other teams know it too. The squad is there, the talent is there, currently however the tactics are not -- Having said that our inverted wingers have the potential to work against City if we sit off them and hit them on the counter? They are expected to have the ball, they are far better home than they are away, and Sandro & Capoue could be excellent at breaking up play.
oi.you.there
12/11/2013 08:26:00
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Dembele need to be played in the best position for him, him playing deep and sandro on the bench is under 14's management. Chadli has proven nothing, he is no saviour, an most likely in the prem less good wide than Townsend, Lennon and Lamela, two of those left footed. Lamela should have been played more or not purchaed in the first place if he things Siggy is more useful to us on the left with Lamela on the bench, under 12's management. Reasons to be cheerful? Madness.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 08:27:00
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* Nice * to read a positive article (too early for this!)
oi.you.there
12/11/2013 08:30:00
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Can't wait for Danny Rose to return, I just hope he can hit the ground running. He hasnt fully established himself yet and a few dodgy performances could get the fans on his back.
Guyver
12/11/2013 08:35:00
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A good read thanks Seb, some of us are always cheerful but a select few seem to think they actually own the club and can apply hatred and fury and "childish" remarks on every article...
Mix26
12/11/2013 08:40:00
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trollpho can u get ur 'inside' man to have a word with Townsend? He needs to pass a little more...
Mix26
12/11/2013 08:42:00
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Nice article Sebastian. The calls for AVB's head were only as a result of frustration and disappointment - in the cold light of two days later we all realise that. But, he is making doubters of many who have openly backed him with some inexplicable decisions. Resting Sandro midweek and not starting him on Sunday as well as persisting with Siggy on the left when there are other options available to try are two of the obvious ones.
Durbanspur
12/11/2013 08:42:00
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Mix26 ... Keep that positivity going, mate!
Geofspurs
12/11/2013 08:49:00
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cant wait for ade to come back in the team will do far more to help the midfilders to get in the game more and help sodado too if we play to up top
stephenspurs1210
12/11/2013 08:57:00
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Geof it is a funny old game and one which Spurs fans in the last 10 years you would think would be kinda accustomed to. I love Spurs and would never write such serious hatred about my club, team or manager. I can understand frustration but there is no excuse for supporters who are short sighted and impatient. There is no date that can be associated to when where and how this team and manager get things really flowing but there are more signs of steady progress. I have all the time in the world for Spurs and rest assured we will be rewarded. By the way may I just add Seb that our fantastic cup run is not to be forgotten either.
Mix26
12/11/2013 09:01:00
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Ade should have played against the toon if only for a bit of match fitness before going to City, if he starts I can see some calling for his head again because he won't be given another chance by the fickle on here! It won't happen anyway because there is some rift between him and AVB that won't go away, pathetic managment IMO. Although Daws is Spurs through and through, he is not quick enough to play the high defensive line. Subject to Rose being back and obviousne fitness issues, Kaboul and Verts to start in CB with Walker right at right back. Kaboul changed the defensive game Sunday. The middle of the park is a little more of a challenge of choice but I agree with Sandro an Capoue, with Paulinio Townsend and Lamela with Ade as the front man. I just have a nagging feeling I have just wasted 20 mins of my life writing this because AVB will stubbornly just pick the same team. Right now I will take 2 draws from the next 2 games. My prediction is we will finish 7th or 8th in the league and win nothing else, but I hope I'm wrong. What will be will be the only little thing I can do is get behind my beloved Spurs and cheer then on in the terraces until the day I die COYS!!!
Supayid
12/11/2013 09:02:00
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Supa pot calling the kettle black?
Mix26
12/11/2013 09:07:00
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We had an abuse free day without you yesterday, Mix26. Now I see that you're trying to be provocative again to Topho, who I hope will not rise to it and the VS authorities take note.
love totty
12/11/2013 09:09:00
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Guys not hatred whatsoever from me in any walk of life, it's a word not in my life. I love spurs and many other things in life including always trying to improve. I also struggle to understand why we would on mass seem to agree that it is too catious to have two deep lying CMs at home and then say how good it would be to have Sandro and Capoue together? I can see why they might be very good together, but do we need two at home? I think not. Like you guyver I cant wait for Rose to get back as we will be much more balanced as a result. AVB needs to find the right balance very soon. Tough next two games coming up where I fully expect is to play better as the two teams will come at us trying to win. On this board lets try to avoid the pathetic snipping at each other already started on here, I am signed up to that. COYS.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 09:14:00
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The thing we must not do is cling onto excuses. We lost 3 games after Europa ties. We lost before each international break. We have injuries, but so do everyone else. Look who is top - they have more injuries than we do - and a lighter squad. I don't really care about missing out on moving to top 3... I care about getting performances right - especially at home, and hitting the back of the net frequently. Townsend was catered for by Newcastle. He was doubled up so that one defender ushered him wide onto his wrong foot - urging him to try and cross. The other defender ushered him inside but blocking any opportunity to shoot, and ultimately Townsend overruns the ball and loses it. Townsend was nullified, yet we do nothing about it. We do not switch him to the other side - which Newcastle probably hadn't planned so much for. The most disappointing thing is that we do not respond to the problems, we just continue as we are. We have scored zero open play goals in 3 games - including 2 home games against bottom half teams. There should be a response to try and get goals - even if it means shipping 1 or 2 in the process.
TonyRich
12/11/2013 09:14:00
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Thanks for the article. A very good read mate. I'm with you on that Geofspurs. Capoue and Sandro paired in the middle looks a mouth watering prospect. Both players look to play the simple ball but we know Capoue has the ability to find a defence splitting pass from deep. I want Townsend to play but on the left and allow Lamela on the right. With Lamela he is unpredictable. The games I've seen him play is not just about running at pace with quick feet. He looks for a pass and he runs into space to retrieve it. He reads the game very well and seems to know when to hold on to the ball and when to release it. He obviously picked up good habbits from the master in Totti. These breaks will work in our favour. COYS!
James1
12/11/2013 09:19:00
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One thing we certainly need is more pairings. Dembele and Paulinho didnt compliment each other at all. Townsend seems to be trying most things on his own rather than working with Walker like he did for England, and Soldado is a man totally on his own. I think Sandro is easily good enough to play a holding role on his own. We could play a 4-1-4-1, give the other two midfielders more attacking freedom and play wingers on the correct side.
oi.you.there
12/11/2013 09:34:00
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Not sure why people are calling for Ade he was rubbish last year playing in the same system. He MIGHT bring slightly more to the team performance in terms of holding up the ball etc, but hes going to what? lay it off for our midfielders to shoot from distance something which we are already doing.
coys1717
12/11/2013 09:53:00
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Vertonghen, is our best centre back, which is why AVB plays him at left back! Dawson is the weakest of the 4 active centre backs we have, which is why he is AVB'S first choice centre back and team captain! Benny should have been kept as back up to Rose, which is why he was sent to QPR! Club record signing, the Argentinian full international Eric Lamela who is a much higher level footballer than both Siggi and Townsend gets dropped after playing his best ever game for Tottenham! Ade is a good alternative up front to both Soldado and Defoe which is why he does not even make the bench! Sandro has shown us he has the potential to become the new Dave Mackay, the best holding midfielder at the club, which is why he is being used by AVB as no more than a rotating bench player! Brad Friedel who's contract ended last summer should have been released, which is why AVB gave him a new one year contract and played him on Sunday, which lost us the match! Gomes is the obvious back up to Lloris, which is why he cant get near the first team! I won't go on and bore you anymore, because everything is working absolutely wonderfully...
pelebro
12/11/2013 09:53:00
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Tony- completely agree, may I suggest this is down to stubborn/bad management? Or is AVB just frightened to Change things because he might upset one or another individual? The result and performance are all that count, we would except the odd defeat if we had played well and AVB had tried positive changes that maybe didn't work. For example Lamela has played as CF effectively should we do a 'Gareth Bale' on him and give him a couple of games up front? As I have predicted the league finish based on a mass change to our squad but if you look at our results truthfully we flatter to deceive. We need this season or at least the first half of it to reform, consolidate and find our best 11. Home and away tactics should be different I.e. 2 dmf away rather than same old, same old! Changes made Sunday changed the game I believe for the better, this is simple management with no rocket science required! The jigsaw just needs a few pieces moving to make it compleat, IMO AVB is the man to do it he just needs to change his ways COYS!!
Supayid
12/11/2013 09:57:00
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Sandro and Capoue are both defensive Midfielders but, like Paulinho, they will both drive forward if the space opens up in front of them ... and they are both strong and dynamic when pushing forward. As long as they cover each other I feel this could lead to goals, directly or indirectly. Tony ... the main thing I would take up with AVB is the way he uses the bench ... often too late and, sometimes, the wrong choice, imo! I am a lot happier after a win than when we lose ... but we all have to deal with that and there is always the next game!
Geofspurs
12/11/2013 09:59:00
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Defo reasons to be cheerful. December is a big month. We need to be still in the hunt in the league, on the verge of wembley and seeded for last 32 of the euro league. A lot of games to be played. Weve got great strength in depth so that could be crucial over the busy period.
StillRickyVilla
12/11/2013 09:59:00
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Tony, like you, I don't think that injuries can be blamed for our failures. Other teams have suffered as much or worse. But then again, I don't think the comparison with Arsenal is entirely fair either. They are not juggling their injuries with integration. Wenger isn't asking himself, for example, whether to stick with Townsend, who has looked promising, but ultimately failed to deliver, or to throw on Lamela, who has looked lost and fragile on occasion but has suddenly seemed to find form.
I agree with your criticism that AVB is too slow to react, I'm very much for him mixing it up more, and I'm surprised that the swapping of flanks that was experimented with against Sheriff with an obvious measure of success wasn't actively continued against Newcastle. But then, at the end of the day, our problem Sunday problem was not Townsend (or anyone) being nullified by his (their) markers. He and everybody else had progressively fewer problems dealing with them as the game wore on, and as tinkering took place in other areas. The problem was getting the ball past Krul. Everything that everybody who has cried out for speedier, more intense pressing, more chance creation and greater quality of chances came to fruition in that second half. Simply, the ball didn't hit the back of the net. Even if one doesn't accept Krul's keeping as the ultimate/major factor in that, the idea that we were having the same sort of troubles mounting sustained and effective attacks as in previous games just doesn't stand up to any scrutiny
Which takes me to the point you make about our 3 defeats following EL games. Admittedly, on the face of it it looks like a significant stat, but if you compare the three defeats, beyond the timing and the negative scorelines there is little that unites them. Fatigue wasn't an issue against Arsenal, and a 1-0 defeat at the Emirates is hardly surprising. West Ham looked a lot like a tired team found out. But on Sunday we got stronger as the game wore on, showing vastly more energy in the second half.
We undoubtedly have a problem going forward. But, without being complacent about it, this is definitely something that was foreseeable from the outset. It was always going to be tough to start with, and a bumpy road to gel on.
Excuses shouldn't be made - Paulinho's sloppiness for the goal, Mr-one-game-a-week Dembele being played twice in quick succession - but when we get a performance of the likes seen in the second half, I don't think we should be reading too much into the similarity with other defeats, that were of an entirely different hue.
darkenvai
12/11/2013 10:01:00
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I cannot understand how Sandro can be left on the bench when fit. Paulhinio puklled out of a 50 50 which gave Remy his goal, sandro, or capoue would never ever have let remy win the ball there. I am getting *****ed off with Townsend playing on the right, he thinks he is the new Bale but is is a shadow of Gareth, so please stop the pointless shooting. Siggy is not a left winger no way never no more. Erikson has not really shone but one can see he will be a great player and along with lamwella needs to play regularly. I would like to see Capoue and Sandro in teh middle with Chadli/townsend on the let Lamella/Lennon (lets not forget what a great player he has been over the eyars and still is IMO) on the right. Erikson as number 10, We can rotate Paulhinio with Capoue or Sandro for home games and easier games. But Djembele NO, Siggy NO, Andros right wing NO.
johna
12/11/2013 10:06:00
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Pelebro hard to argue with any of those points mate, apart from the fact Friedal probably didnt lose us the game Sunday.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 10:06:00
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Coys, Ade will be awful if he chooses, if he chooses not to be awful , he will offer so much more than Soldado, he will offer much more movemement, he will pull the central defendesr of of position more, he will be more physical when central, he is better in the air, he will help out at the back in this way from set pieces also. He is not such a good penalty taker as Soldado. We are paying him, he needs to be included until we sell him. Those are the reasons as I see them.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 10:10:00
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ABUSE ALERT USER MIX26. BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIFFERING VIEW IT DOES NOT MAKE YOU A TROLL. NOTED.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 10:13:00
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Coys1717- the reason for calling for Ade is he is another option at CF as apposed to Soldado, who has done exactly what? Defoe could do the job but needs a feeder like Ade, maybe this is Soldado's issue? Or maybe try Lemela there as I have already said? I think our point is something needs to change in the goal scoring dept because at the moment it's just not happening mate.
Supayid
12/11/2013 10:15:00
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Darkenvai, good post. Ive not seen anything unexpected yet. We are still right up there despite the ridiculous level of upheaval caused by the bale sale. If we had put 3 or 4 past newcastle (like on any other day we should have done) this site would be awash with 'we gonna win the league claims'! And 'what goal-scoring crisis!?'. Everyone just needs to calm down. Its football, there are ups and downs just like at all the clubs.Just ask city and chelsea fans after this weekend.
StillRickyVilla
12/11/2013 10:15:00
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I like to look at the positives and have defended AVB resolutely, which wasn't difficult because of the positive results. I was unable to watch the whole game live, but watched a recording. Following the successful first half against Everton, I was expecting a similar set up. The loss of Sandro and Lennon in that game diminished us. So I was surprised that having seen how the deployment of a proper winger (Lennon) allowed Verts to give a MOM performance at LB, we reverted to a non winger Siggy who just gets in the way. The stats show he had an appalling game against Newc.
Secondly, the absence of Lamela baffled me. Here was a young man who had given a MOM performance, whose confidence visibly grew in the match against Sheriff, put back in his box. Picking Lamela was a no loss situation. If he gave a performance anywhere near the Sheriff game we would have won and put another piece of the jig-saw in place ready for ManC. If Lamela had played badly, we had 2 weeks to restore his confidence. AVB knew he had lost Lloris, what a downer for the fans. The perfect antidote was play Lamela...it would have given the crowd a perfect lift.
A Very Bad team selection Sunday. We don't know what to expect next. Holtby dropped after 3 good games. Sandro benched when we have not lost in the last 15 PL games he started. No winger on the left when Lennon and Lamela were available.
Now we are hanging our hats on Capoue and Sandro as a pairing. Please remember they have shared minutes together on the pitch. Not AVBs fault, but just bear that in mind.
Sorry its negative, but I'm still seething!
jacobslad
12/11/2013 10:20:00
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reasons to be cheerful...bar a LB we have some wonderful defenders and a great GK...we have so many riches in CM that people can throw away Pauli and Dembele from team selections both players that would get games for the highest of teams....reasons to be fearful...no left side and we're toothless up front...but let's be positive and hope lamela gets a chance and settles and that Ade (yep pinning our pre-january hopes on Ade!) can come in and give us options up top....last year he had to run the channels for Bale this year he can stay central...
shedboy2
12/11/2013 10:24:00
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SRV, the only thing that's surprised me so far, is that we've been as successful as we have been. How anybody could expect such a large number of players to be integrated quickly, seamlessly and without issue into a team suddenly bereft of the costliest player in history is utterly beyond me. If we are having the same problems come the end of the season, then I'll be worried.
darkenvai
12/11/2013 10:34:00
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Can people see the bigger picture and is it positive? Will Spurs be successful this season or in the near future? By success I mean winning cups, earning qualification to the elite competition. How long has AVB got to achieve success, one season or more?
SpursOne2
12/11/2013 10:44:00
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Sticky- I agree with what you say, except we do have a bit of a goal crisis mate. Chelsea and City have a problem in odd games so their fans would agree it they had a down day however. We have a problem. I'm always calm and except the team needs time therefore my expectations have been adjusted accordingly. I however can only deal in facts and what I have seen on the pitch. This is a forum and some do get excited that's up to them surly? Nothing we say on here will be listened to by anyone other than other fans, it just opinions that everybody is entitled to.
Supayid
12/11/2013 10:44:00
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Loads to be cheerful about, exciting new talent like Chiriches, Capoue, Lamela, Paulinho, Eriksen, Soldaldo – All could fit into the top teams imo. All are still developing in this side and improving. Also we have qualified for the next round of the EL and Get to play Manchester United in a few weeks. Cannot wait to get back to the lane with the WHL faithful and cheer the team on. COYS.
SpursOne2
12/11/2013 10:45:00
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Darkenvai spot on. I can't remember how many times this has been said this season. COYS!
James1
12/11/2013 10:45:00
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Darkenvai- spot on mate very well said!
Supayid
12/11/2013 10:50:00
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Darkenvai, absolutely. My only negative about AVB reign is that some fans have never bought into it and cant wait to stick the boot in at the smallest hint of failure. Unfortunately that negativity has transmitted to the players in some instances which is not helpful. Seems to be a constant battle for ABV to win over the fans - u wonder at what point he will just say "I dont need this" and take the next offer from a PSG or whoever. Wouldnt blame him. Then we are back to square one. U have to laugh!
StillRickyVilla
12/11/2013 10:57:00
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Soldado hasn't done anything yet because we haven't been playing to his strengths, Soldado is the final boot before the back of the net, he's a poacher. The whole set up is designed to feed him which we simply haven't been doing, You bring Ade in, yeah he can bring other people into play, gives us the easy long ball option, target man but for who? lay it off for Townsend or Siggy to shoot from 25 yards, if he's won the ball near the oppositions corner flag, whats he supposed to do with it? Soldado was brought to sit in the box and finish chances, Ade gives us other options but not any that would benefit the team playing in its current formation , style whatever we're calling it.
coys1717
12/11/2013 11:04:00
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Dark - the only two new players who have had any significant PL time are Soldado and Paulinho. Lamela, Chadli, Capoue, Chiriches and Eriksen have hardly been played. Townsend and to a lesser extent Rose were positive additions who were already blooded. They are all excellent players in their own right who don't need patronising, they just need organising and motivating within a team structure that suits their skills. I wonder if you would be so patient if it was your £100m spent.
Love totty
12/11/2013 11:04:00
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Yes SRV, let's blame the fans who do the paying and not those who get paid. You certainly do have to laugh, but it's hollow.
Love totty
12/11/2013 11:09:00
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Coys, we dont want to play long balls to targetman football and Ade is so much more than that IF and its a BIG IF he wants to play. Siggy wont be playing much more, feel for him to a degree but simply he isnt good enough. Ade would benefit the team hugely at this moment in time. There was a thread on this subject and i think that ended up as the concensus.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 11:10:00
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Sebastian Short......... good article, there are lots of things to be positive about with this squad.. Just that AVB seems to be struggling to find the right players for the right positions at the right time. IMHO He needs to find his best team 11 and then start rotating from there Darkenvai ... Dembele is making noises about not playing enough. Regarding Mr Adebayor and his re-integration into the team, I think that he has acted really badly and selfishly throughout his time at THFC. ON loan he played really well and got his contract then he did not commit himself to the manager, team or the club. As far as I'm concerned he can go and do a big one. I've had enough of him and who's to say he will be the original if he gets back into the 11. HE'S GOT HIS CONTRACT AND HE'LL SEE IT OUT. Money for nothing.. and the chicks for free! Jacobslad .... How many people on here have been shouting out for rotation of the squad to make sure there's no burn out later in the season. As we did with HR. Sandro, Capoue, Dembele and Lennon have all been out injured or whatever and we know AVB likes to bring injured players back slowly. Paulinho has played nearly every game as far as I can remember. I can agree with you about Sandro and Lennon should have started in the Newcy game but they had been injured so he didn't play them. I can't imagine why Lamela didn't start after his game against Sherriff unless AVB thought he played nearly the 90 minutes so won't start him Sunday. If that was the case then why not bring him on as sub?
longtimespur
12/11/2013 11:10:00
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When you think about it, it's certainly not all bad. No team has really outplayed us over 90 minutes this season. The first half against Everton and the second half against Newcastle was an awesome display ... just what I was looking for, anyway. No goals but they have to come if we keep that kind of pressure and possession up on a regular basis. Consistency!
Geofspurs
12/11/2013 11:11:00
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SpursOne2..you ask can people see the bigger picture and is it positive? Yes, I think it is. The competition for Top4 will be difficult but it will remain close to the end IMO. This time last year after 11 games ManU were top on 27 points and Arsenal were 8th on 16 points. A spread of 11 points. This year its a spread of 6 points from arsenal to ManC. Consistency is the key and taking points regularly of the lesser teams. Squad strength will also come into it, and we are well placed. The expectations of all top 8 teams are high, so as ever some will be disappointed. Fortunately our setbacks are part of the norm for other teams. Although we drew with Chelsea and Everton, last year we lost. Although we gained only one point in each game, we denied them the 3 they got last year. On such fine margins will the final table depend.
jacobslad
12/11/2013 11:11:00
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I would disagree, not about his abilities but dont think he would add more goals or even serve up more goals to the team, put him with Soldado that may be a different story, the options we need are changing the formation behind the striker(s) to allow them to do there job. We were using a similar system last season our strikers did nothing at the time we were all blaming them, now we realise its the system we play.
coys1717
12/11/2013 11:17:00
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Bit worrying if you think Danny Rose will kick start our season.Vertonghen has looked better down the left than Rose and yet we still can't buy a goal.The crucial names are Ade & Lamela,these two can solve the problem,because they are skillful,inventive,can shoot,hold the ball,dribble, and most important can do something different which always scares packed defences.
Greavesaboveall
12/11/2013 11:18:00
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coys1717, at the end of last season Ade looked very good playing in this current system.
Guyver
12/11/2013 11:18:00
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And that was with Dempsey and Parker.
Guyver
12/11/2013 11:19:00
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People under estimated Dempsey, he was a decent player for us.
coys1717
12/11/2013 11:21:00
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Lovetotty - from what I can see we have the most motivated and hard-working manager we have perhaps have ever had and a team spirit evident amongst the players which ive rarely witnessed. We have a chairman who at last seems to have a plan and the wonderful new stadium on its way. The away fans are absolutely awesome perhaps the best in the league. But yes, we have a significant minority at WHL that need to step up. Apart from that all I see is positives on spurs future. Its great times. People are just too caught up in their petty agendas to notice. When times are not so good when we are mid-table and europe is just a pipe-dream I wonder how many of the moaners will be looking back at this time with fondness (whilst moaning about being mid-table and not in europe!).
StillRickyVilla
12/11/2013 11:23:00
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Well said SRV!
Geofspurs
12/11/2013 11:28:00
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Love totty - precisely, it's all been a question of mix and match so far. I don't think there's been a single game played in PL this season where at least 4 of those who've featured were not Spurs employees or not involved in the first team set up in any meaningful way last season. Often more. On top of that Bale is gone. All nine are excellent players and if anybody is patronising them, it is certainly not me. Townsend himself has admitted that the players are still getting to know each other. The gelling in some areas has been rapid and excellent - not surprisingly in defence where there has been the most consistency in personnel. We've seen blindingly good performances in some games and in halves of some games, but bland fare in others. Entirely consistent with a group coming to terms with their unfamiliarity with each other.
It's not your £100m either LT so I don't understand your lack of patience, or that of all the others who didn't fork out for the team for that matter.
darkenvai
12/11/2013 11:32:00
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Good stuff SRV! COYS!
James1
12/11/2013 11:36:00
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Once again darkenvai nicely put. I think a lot of it is just out and out frustration and impatience for us to do well. Which I do understand to a degree - but some i think just need to get real with their expectations.
StillRickyVilla
12/11/2013 11:37:00
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Soldado is going to get all the blame for our lack of goals, the system AVB plays is going to come in for a slagging ''to defensive'' AVB will be told on Vital Spurs ''your player selection is all wrong'' the wolfs are at the door, those poor little pigs are going to get a battering, but the problem for our lack of goals comes down to the squad all in one basket, that's the problem, far to many players to list on stats, appearances for spurs and previous clubs, even internationals if you wish to take that on board, then look up the players we have number of goals to apps each has scored, who currently walks out for us to do battle, take into consideration assists, not picking on this player example only, you can look up any player and find, we don't have goal scorers across the pitch, when we signed Dembele from Fulham after the season of 2011-2012 apps 45 he had scored 2 goals for Fulham, his first appearance for us he scored 50% of last seasons total, in season 2012-2013 he had 41 apps, 2 goals, your be lucky if when Lennon starts his going to score, he might get one in 10 games, our problem is players who just can't score or do not get into the penalty area enough, but then to score you need the ball, Krul maybe a ''one off'' when he saved and the ball bounced loose 3 spurs players to one toon defender and still they managed to clear it, had that been Terry, Cahill and Torres attacking that ball the keeper , defender and the ball would have finished up in the back of the net. When the side is selected, who is going to score, we have had 3 clean sheets in a row, no goals vs wet spam, everton, newcastle, hull we struggled how did that goal come about? Something has to happen soon, possesion is one thing, but please start turning it into goals or we are going to be in the shi7, I hope not, but football can turn very quicky on us.
spu 4 life
12/11/2013 11:42:00
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I dont agree SRV, at this time he looks stubborn and limited because we have not been playing well, scoring well and or winning well apart from the spoon on thursdays, which most agree is a farce at this stage of the competition. He is showing all the same signs he did at Chelsea. As far as motivated players is concerned I think most of our teams in most eras have looked motivated as have most of the Prem teams. The chairman I agree has done and appears to still be doing a good job in taking us forward, he will like any other human make mistakes, I hope AVB does not prove to be a mistake, at the moment it's clear for every supporter to see many things are wrong after what was a substantial investment by the board. I think this is nothing to do with petty agenda's and if it was have you not just laid yours down? It's about differeing views and opinions and all should be respested in good faith.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 11:43:00
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Coys1717- I agree with the system comment to some degree, but Ade was left to play second fiddle to Bale and not as CF. He is a CF not a number 10 or winger. The season before last as CF he scored 17 and made 8 assists. His attitude stinks some times maybe even most of the time. All I am saying is at the moment he is another option not our saviour. Maybe he could light Soldado' fire if they played together, maybe he could hold the ball up to bring our more attacking MF's into play. One thing I do know is something needs to change cos what we got ain't working. Ade is better in the air and defensively than we are playing come January I think he will be gone and we will probably spend 25 mill+ on another striker when we just may have what we need playing in the under 18's. It won't hurt to give him a try before Xmas for 5 or 6 games what would we lose? His time in the reserves just may have taught him a lesson about attitude and work rate.
Supayid
12/11/2013 11:46:00
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they were good reasons to be cheerful Shedboy
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 11:49:00
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Vital six weeks coming up for both our clubs by the end of which we should be able to answer whether The Arse and AVB are the real thing or not? I think for you lot the biggest problem is that none of your attacking players look to possess a real goal threat. Playing the 4-3-3 (or 4-5-1 either way 1 central striker supported by 2 winger/forwards) you need to have goals coming from both wide men and at least one (ideally two) of your central 3. Spurs issue is that Lennon and Townsend don't offer anything and that playing 2 def mid type players in the middle (any two of Cap, Sandro, Paul) or even Demble, who lets face it never scores, means that there is simply not enough goal threat in the team. AVB has to drop one or both of Lennon an only play with one Def-Mid and allow the other 2 midfielders to move forward. Arsenal played with 2 def-mids in the first half against United and were crap, took one off and suddenly they looked a far better (but still poor) team. Does AVB have the balls to go for broke? His record and style of play at Chelsea and Spurs would suggest that he adopts the safety first approach which wont be enough for the top 4.
Galway Gooner
12/11/2013 11:59:00
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srv- hardly optimistic to be predicting us mid table and looking back on this period (of no top4 under AVB) as a high point...they may just look a little further back ...;)
shedboy2
12/11/2013 12:01:00
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Galway, sadly thats how it is mate.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 12:01:00
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Topho, so thats ur opinion, fine. But in whose opinion do we trust? Someone who has absolute knowledge of all the players every single day on the training pitch, in the dressing room, their motivation levels, personalities, fitness levels. Has at his disposal complete indepth analysis of our opponents. Someone who has worked with and learnt from, for many many years, the best manager in the world. Someone who has already won championships and european titles. And someone who has the complete backing of the players and the chairman who know him 24 hrs a day 7 days a week. Or do we trust the likes of u? And lets be honest, are a few gimps on a keyboard, who like me, are pretty clueless at the end of the day. Lets just get behind the manager and see what happens.
StillRickyVilla
12/11/2013 12:02:00
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LT thanks for the encouragement. Again what was wrong with my post? I ask for inside information? He apparently has a manon the inside lol...It's certainly not my fault a LOT of posters think he is a joke. In fact only the prime minister has a few more "fans"... Now the moderators have told him to pipe down doesn't change his typical AVB slating. He just chooses alt words...
Mix26
12/11/2013 12:10:00
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If the last decade has taught us anything that we didn't already know, it is that money buys football success and I for have often deplored the vanity purchases of clubs by foreign billionaires and the inflationary efffect that its had on the game. The windfall that was Gareth Bale and the astuteness of our board has unexpectedly given us the opportunity to compete with these pariah clubs and I'm phucked if I'm going to say nothing if I see that opportunity wasted by a novice manager who has for months now bewildered us with obtuse selections and substitutions. We are behind were we should be, that's the bottom line, and the catch-up will be getter harder from here on in without a sea change in home form.
Love totty
12/11/2013 12:22:00
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I wonder how Vital United and Vital City are going?
Geofspurs
12/11/2013 12:29:00
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Mix26 - you've become the problem, not him. You couldn't resist calling him a troll. Am I a troll now because my opinion of AVB's performance differs from yours?
Love totty
12/11/2013 12:32:00
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Reasons to be cheerful, get a cup of tea and enjoy:
Lamela
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAbJIq9wKN0
jacobslad
12/11/2013 12:33:00
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Lol come now LT how many seasons did it take City? How many seasons did it take Chelsea? You now favour the board who previously invested in Crouchinio and Saha etc... The novice manager and his astute sidekicks are the ones who have bought this team and no way does Levy deserve that credit. We are nowhere near actually competing for the title but there is a slightest of hope we can this season. People calling for the managers head when all the results have proven otherwise is just plain daft don't u think? I've never heard of a club sacking a manager who is 5 points off the title challenge and level on points with 2 champions and ahead of a City? Other than Chelsea of course. What a complete and utter waste this year would be should that even be a consideration. I wonder if u have same opinion of your Dr's diagnosis, calling his a novice... as if u had the qualifications to know more...
Mix26
12/11/2013 12:35:00
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Avb had an entire last season and he'll get this entire season...at the end of that we'll know if he's any good...so far he's earned the right to this year (just -as some would say taking us from 4th to fifth blowing a lead on the way was not progress) The board do actually need to back him...if as we are led to believe he wanted a LB why didn't we get one? and is he really happy with Defoe and Ade (and an emerging Kane) as the stikeforce to fire us into the elite?....interesting times where the decisions made off the pitch are having as much effect as those on....
shedboy2
12/11/2013 12:37:00
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Lol LT I do it to annoy him because he insults not only the manager but our club and players. I don't care that 3 months later he plays victim and pronounces his love for all things Spurs. I will continue to point it out regardless...
Mix26
12/11/2013 12:41:00
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Mix26 - I've never called for his sacking, ever. Same as I've never deprecated a player for not being better than he is. I want him to recognise his limitations and continue the learning he started under Jose and Bobby and respect the Spurs tradition of winning with style - before its too late.
Love totty
12/11/2013 12:42:00
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SRV we each trust our own opinion. Did you just describe a guy who got sacked at his last job for failing to do what he was employed for at his next job? We have no choice but to watch what the manager does SRV, that doesn't mean to say we must all follow your chosen route. i am not asking you to change yours or follow mine.......Love Totty to true and lets all continue having opinions.
tophobunty3
12/11/2013 12:43:00
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Brilliant link jacobslad. This is how to mix your game Townsend. COYS!
James1
12/11/2013 12:43:00
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