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The Back-room Boys!

So Tim Sherwood will head a back room care taking team for the next two games and perhaps longer...

Firstly I have to say that I like the idea that the trio of Sherwood, Chris Ramsey and Les Ferdinand, coupled with Stefan Freund and Tony Parks, because its a management team that is filled with Tottenham men and ones that know the game and have served their time in coaching, much of which has been with ourselves. Perhaps it isn't the glamourous appointment many would like to see, but is there a sense in actually picking men who know the traditions of the club and its fans as a means to bring back 'Our Tottenham', which for me has been lost in the last 18 months.

Certainly in the case of Sherwood and Ramsey we have two people who have superb reputations in the game for their coaching and understanding of football. Both have done their apprenticeships, whilst Freund came to the club with a very good reputation in Germany, whilst we know he bleeds white and blue, but for me has been isolated by the Portuguese mafia that came with AVB and effectively made Freund a peripheral figure in the coaching set from what I could see. Was Freund the boards choice and not AVBs? I'm certainly guessing that was the case and the two never quite looked like they shared the same vision.

Parker will continue to do what he has done, but perhaps with a little more status and feeling of being back to having a greater influence and feeling of belonging to the club. Sir Les has never been a 'coach' to inspire me. However, as I have never met or listened to his methods or philosophies, I'm more than prepared to go with the judgement of others and if he gels with Sherwood and the rest, that is fine with me. What I do see is a man that appears to have belief and an aura and I imagine he is a players man and one that they would like to work with.

What we do know is that Daniel Levy rates Sherwood highly and there have previously been hints that he wanted to give Tim a more influential role, but perhaps the fact he was inexperienced and not a name to excite the fans and media, put him off. Perhaps if Franco Baldini shares his view and the players feel the same about him and the others, could there be a justification in giving him a go? Problem remains that fans and media may still be sceptical, but is there a no risk policy, in appointing them as short term caretakers, in the hope that results and performances inspire the fans?

For me, there is a bigger gamble in appointing a new man in such a busy Christmas period, in a time of so many games. Should Sherwood do well between now and Arsenal in the FA Cup, is there then a temptation to give him the season and make a call in the summer? What might be seen as a success is not the league position, but how the team have gelled and how they have reacted to the new coaches and how the coaches have gelled with Baldini and the board.

Could we suddenly see the reintroduction of Adebayor, the return of BAE and Carroll from QPR and no new signings in January. Just the current players, working and improving, with the fans enjoying watching football once again. That for me would be a step in the right direction. Lets see the vision of a united squad and a way of playing that hints of planning and also of quality attacking football. We certainly have the players and with a fit and inspired Ade and BAE as competition for Rose, do we already have the players to improve the team, without spending a penny.

It is hinted that AVB has collected around £4m from Spurs, so is this a time where the club are reluctant to pay big compensation to another club, but also see an opportunity to back their judgement over Sherwood. At this time, I am open minded, but are there better me out there to bring back the feel good factor at Tottenham, that the five men charged with leading the team against West Ham and Southampton. I have a feeling that a positive performance tomorrow and the same, with three points at Southampton, will suddenly make those doubting Sherwood, soften their view and a good Christmas and new year, could just give him the job and Levy a justification and perhaps feeling that he wished he backed his judgment 18 months ago...




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Writer: OxfordSpur Mail feedback, articles or suggestions

Date:Tuesday December 17 2013

Time: 9:04AM

Your Comments

May as well give him a go, lets face it, seems only 5 minutes ago we were discussing who would replace Harry. Whoever else comes in will only be short term. One game at a time, still lots to play for
EASY AS_AVB
There is really no need to make a panic appointment, Spurs are not going to get relegated. Try and find the right man and in the meantime lets see how the team does.
jod
I can't say that this does or does not appeal to me but I am looking for the excitement that has been missing from the lane,
keefdayid
I'll give up on Levy if Sherwood is given anything other than a very short term(2/3 games) role,it will be done for purely monetary reasons,in not wanting to buy out a contract.Phuck me this season is hardly done and dusted ,incredibly we're still in with a shout of getting a result in every comp available.If an experienced manager isn't appointed promptly and this season is let season is let slip by, then to me it proves that Levy and co have no serious footballing aspirations.
sandroman
As Sherwood has never managed a senior team in any of the main British leagues it will be interesting to see how he gets on. Those that were willing to give AVB more time should surely be willing to let Sherwood have a few games to show what he can get the team to achieve. After all AVB had 18 months and we were heading in the wrong direction and still there were some willing to let him continue. I doubt Sherwood can be much worse. What's the worst that could happen? We lose 6-0 away or 5-0 at home? It's nothing we haven't seen before is it?
SpuriousLife
Jod agree no need for a panic appointment and yes we're not going to get relegated,but we're still in with a serious chance in every comp,letting things just meander along will make sure we aren't for long.Also to make sure we get the right means taking the decision making out of Levy's hands,fat chance.
sandroman
Spurious,the worst that can happen is we go from still being in a number of fights to being in none.He might get a couple of early results(honeymoon period) but has no serious experience to fall back on when things go wrong,completely the wrong direction for a club with serious ambitions to be taking.Then again if given the chance he could prove me completely wrong,wouldn't be the first time.
sandroman
I would say Adebayor and BAE should never play for Tottenham again.(or allowed inside the ground) When you laugh when your team is beat 5 - 0 there is no way back. Anyway Adebayor has history refusing to return from the African Nations, refusing to sign in time for pre season. etc AVB was right about him.
camper
Tim Sherwood is on a hidding to nothing, so give the guy a break and at least a chance, his taking over ''Interim'' with Ferds and Ramsey, at best he can select a side to take on wet spam in the Capital One Cup, the result is 50/50 because it's decided on the night no draw at the end of this one, so his going to win it or lose it. Then we go to Southampton, in the prem, followed by 3 homes games WBA & Stoke, he could turn out to be a hero getting us into the semi-final of the C-1-C and take max 9pts in the prem, that's the best he can do, get behind him an get behind TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR FC, AVB has gone it won't be his side playing these games, it wiil be OUR SIDE.
spu 4 life
sandroman - Whatever we do from here our season could fizzle out, there is no risk free option. Bringing in a new manager who has to reshape the team and coaching in his own image mid season could be worse than having someone in charge who at least knows the players. At the end of the day whatever we get from here is a bonus but there is no threat of relegation. There is a precedent for appointing someone with no managerial experience, remember a certain Keith Burkenshaw ?
jod
it's ok 2 home games, should have gone to spec savers
spu 4 life
spu 4 life….. I agree….. Our Spurs!
MAN ON!
I am happy to give these guys a chance and see if they can make a positive impact. all appear to be popular within the club and also appear to be very knowledgeable and well respected.
oxfordspur
jod….Not only burkinshaw but a certain Bill Nicholson….
MAN ON!
Sandroman ........ I understand your view re Sherwood but it isn't a one man set up. It's a team by the look of it. Give it a try and see. To my thinking it's better than a "quick fix" appointment that hasn't been thought through fully. Also there will be more choice come the summer
longtimespur
MAN ON! - Good point.
jod
Our two most successful managers no less…...
MAN ON!
is Sherwood more likely to accrue more points in the remaining season than avb?i
ghulamville
If AVB had stayed we would probably have won the next two games, so no guide if Sherwood is any good there. As for playing football the Tottenham way this is just a method to be beat in an acceptable fashion I prefer the way Southampton way not some ill defined past rosy tinted loosing way.
camper
Wonder if they'll make many changes to the starting 11? I know we have a few injuries but you'd expect they will have different views on the players than AVB did?
Metal Spurs
Daniel Levy will be putting his nice cap on soon as he tries to seduce the next coach to work with him! He was so very nice to Harry when he was terrified of relegation! Even allowed him to do away with the joke of a DOF system. But as soon as Harry made us a top 4 and CL club, loser Levy got cocky again, as a big time Champions League chairman and started doing business with the mighty Real Madrid (who were just using him to get Modric and Bale). And then he stopped backing Harry, cut his budget and then fired him when he finished in an end of season top 4 official CL spot! Then he was very nice to AVB at the beginning. AVB told us all how happy he was at Spurs working with Levy, but last summer everything changed as Levy went back on his very own official THFC end of season statement by selling Bale and again not buying the players AVB requested. Baldini signed Lamela (not AVB!) and the friction began. AVB realised he was no longer in control as Sherwood and Baldini were spying on his every move, undermining him. I was not the biggest of AVB fans, but I sincerely hoped he would succeed and was very impressed when he turned down PSG to try and bring us success. The way he was treated by Levy was a disgrace, the same as each and everyone of Levy's 8 coaches! So Daniel Levy will be kissing arse to the next coach on his fantasy Football wish list soon. And then the abusive cycle will repeat its self from very very nice, to very very very nasty! LEVY OUT!!!
Pele10
Whatever you think of Sherwood he's now in charge for however long. I won't become a new version of the 'anti AvB' crowd so lets back the team and see what happens.
Kong
with the state the defence is in with injuries and lack of LB, id bring back BAE as action 1. Then bring Ade back to play WITH RS9 up front as we seriosuly lack goals and must leverage the squad
mattspurs1982
Full time manager and assistant HODDLE & WILKINS or even Gary Neville that's if we can set up his TV for half time team talks, we could have Mickey Mouse and Noddy doing the job, be great to see Noddy hanging out of his car talking to sky sports on his way in and out of the training ground.
spu 4 life
@CAMPER - So the Spurs fans that boo-ed the team should never be allowed in the stadium. Or were the fans making a point about the manager? Were the outcast and poorly treated people not making a point about the manager? BAE has attended matches as a paying customer. BAE has tweeted support for Spurs all season. BAE was silenced on twitter after he said he would return ONCE AVB WAS GONE. He has been a very loyal player. Any Spurs fan that cant see the feud was BAE/ADE vs AVB and not a feud with Spurs should go to France with the stubborn Portuguese wan|
mellowchaos
Jod,get what your saying,but we have to take a long term view,yes the season may fizzle out which ever way we go but at least an experienced manager will have at least had over half a season to bed in.IMO there isn't a lot of reshaping to do,we have a great squad,full of internationals and experience, who in the first instance just have to have their heads decluttered and get enjoying their footy again before stamping their ideas.KB a great example but I know you know in a completely different footballing world than today.To me Sherwood getting the job fulltime with absolutely zilch 1st team managerial experience would be like me getting my drivers liscence today and being asked to drive an F1 car tomorrow at full speed,world of difference.Just my opinion.
sandroman
How on earth is Sherwood going to get the results with all back line excluding walker injured/suspended? It's a mess
tottscotspur
I can see the next two games as massive to our season. Play well get 2 wins with strong positive attacking performances where it is clear the team are working for Sherwoon and I can seriously see Levy giving him the job for the season. He and Baldini will know very del what the players thought of AVB and equally what they think of Sherwood and the others. I felt the team stopped playing for AVB, but if we suddenly see a change in attitude and performance, you assume it isn't a coincidence
oxfordspur
basically if Sherwood gets until the end of the season than we have given up on the season-points wise we are still in with a shout,we are still the laffing stock of football
ghulamville
Longtime,if we had only a few games to go yea go for it but my main argument is we are still in every cup and 8 off 1st and 5 off 4th in league,everything still to play for in my view,don't want to just give up on this season just yet.Wed wont tell us anything or even next couple,reckon we'll setup 442 or slight variation and boys told to just go out and enjoy.To be honest I think Levy has something sorted or close to,he's never not got a plan.Interesting days,whatever happens we all want the same i'm sure.
sandroman
I'd just like to point out to anyone who's concerned about Sherwoods lack of experience, that Bill Nicholsons first managerial post was Spurs. Keith Burkinshaws second job, after being fired from the Magpies? Spurs. Our two most successful managers! They were however given plenty of time to prove themselves……...
MAN ON!
ghulamville x 2
sandroman
I'm not saying Tim is the man for the job. How could I know? But I will say, don't write him off before his first game in charge.
MAN ON!
sandroman I don't see it makes much difference if a new manager comes in now or the summer. Inevitably he'll want his own players, they always do, and realistically that can't happen before the summer window. I also don't see how you can take it as a given that a new appointment would inevitably pick up more wins than Sherwood. A bad appointment, which seems to be our specialty, probably would win less.
jod
Thanks to jod for reminding me about KB and Bill Nich…….
MAN ON!
Ox- you'd be more worried if an outside man came in on an interim bases? really?...so we miss out on the new manager bounce and appoint a YTS Manager who has never managed a 1st team. If we have aspirations of top4 we get a proven manager in....otherwise we all need to accept mid-table, the ambition has gone, we haven't spent a penny of new money in 3 years racking up a 33m profit on transfers in the mean time...we are currently a laughing stock...such a well run club...fabulous job Levy is doing....he's a joke of a chairman....
shedboy2
Well, I guess we might as well have people who know Spurs in charge for the interim period, whatever that means. If it does work out it might even be a permanent option. It's more exhausting being a Spurs supporter than it is being a Spurs player! I don't know how I've lasted so long! COYS
Geofspurs
hoddle is notr the answer
Aussie Yiddo
Physio Room report; Tottenham Hotspur 6 out- Sandro knock no return date; Kaboul Hip/Thigh Injury no return date; Chiriches Knee Injury 18th Dec 13 (was down as a late fitness test for sunday) J Vertonghen Ankle/Foot Injury no return date; E Adebayor Knee Injury Dec 13; H Kane Back Injury no return date; Dawson suspended 1 game wet spam, Paulinho out for 3 games wet spam, Soton, WBA. Well Tim knows all the players, so we may see some of the younger, younger ones play, Fredericks did well the other night, it can't be any worse then it has been, maybe Tim will use Lamela more, we shall see come tomorrow and I'm looking forward to beating wet spam
spu 4 life
It seems that all PL management assignments are short term these days so Tim now has his chance to stake a claim. No-one would have wanted this situation to arise least of all Levy but in reality it was coming sooner or later. My guess is that it was rather sooner than Levy anticipated but replacements were already being sought. The season is far from dead so this holding position must be brief.
Love totty
As I said on another thread, A certain Pep Guardiola had no experience when he took over at Barca. Yes, their players were much better than ours, but he still transformed them into the greatest club side of all time. Experience is not the be all & end all here. Look at the amount of managers out there being linked that DO have experience, Glenn Hoddle has experience, even Neil Warnock has got experience - does that mean you want them?! Football is constantly changing, new coaches will have fresh ideas, not saying he will be, but Sherwood could just be the best manager the country has ever produced, only time will tell.
King26
Jod - we have a transfer window coming up...the new man needs to be in for it...this season is lost we ain't getting top4 unless the other teams implode so a great opportunity for a guy to come in and get us playing, tweak in the summer and go again next year....Sherwood in charge this year is a waste and another HUGE gamble that doesn't need taking
shedboy2
King- let him go and prove he can do it in the lower league then! why are we a training academy? ...we are becoming a joke of a club....I can just see all those 9 year old's flooding in across the globe to become our next generation of supporters....Cause we need them we should be installing stanna stairlifts in the stadium at this rate not that ENIC care they'll be gone....
shedboy2
I have backed most Managers/Coaches fully during their tenure mainly because I find it unfair to undermine the efforts of someone who is in charge of trying to produce a winning team by constant negative comments and moaning. Having said that I find myself supporting DL in either releasing AVB or accepting his resignation whichever is the reality. I had become a clutcher of straws, holding on to "chances" missed and possession in place of simple direct football.

Tim Sherwood is not the glamour signing we may want but he will have my full support in the next couple of games. I will add on to that if I see a return to simple, "the goals over there, mate" type football and the understanding that whoever scores more goals wins the game mentality. He's a grown man and he's been about the business for a good while. He's played the game at the top level so he knows the nuances of the game. If he can get these players to play football the way they ALL are supposed to be able to, there is no reason why the team cannot turn this around swiftly.
jvd
I feel Levy has got a man in place already, I believe he saw how off the pace we were against Man. City he had a plan B ready. I would go for Hoddle, he was sacked by England and left Spurs for both non football reasons so he has a good CV, he is a Spurs man through and through, plus he is not in a job at present. I feel it is a total no brainier myself.
Ox Yid
WHY IS THIS ARTICLE BROKE? And where do I post any info I find about our manager search, if there is one?
coopsieyid
Under Sherwood I wouldn't be surprised if we beat the spammers 3/4 nil. The team/squad looked terribly surprised under AVB this season. It seemed as though AVB was much more focused on defensive duties/tasks of the players rather than the players actually expressing themselves. We have so many offensive players yet they all look like twits, how come? The set up with Sherwood, Ferds, Ramsey, Freund and Parks can be very very effective. Just for the fact that they know all the players and have been at the club for a handful of years. I think it's a combination that can work very well for us.
Lady Yid
Sherwood as permanent manager = joke of a club
shedboy2
Shed - why let him goto lower leagues? Then, if he does 'prove himself', we won't get him! I'm not saying he is the ideal person for the job, personally, I'd move for Frank De Boer, I think he could work very well there. My housemates are split, one wants Bielsa & the other Yakin (Basel). All 3 are risky as they've never been in the prem. I'll be honest, I'm close to giving up all hope. It's the same every 2 seasons, new guy in, all looks rosey, Levy gets bored, circle of life begins again. The only constant is the frustration of all us fans
King26
coops- yep this page seems fecked and the pages have been all over the place this morning...sort it out Ox!
shedboy2
Just heard tha not one Spurs player on Twitter has wished AVB the best, nothing at all! seems a little strange if they had a good relationship
Ossie
King- let them go there to prove themselves, we are a supposed to be aiming for top4 (although I think that's more a hope than plan) if Sherwood is any good get him back in two years....he'd come to us the real top4 wouldn't look at him. Sherwood would be the cheap option and as we know Levy likes cheap options almost as much as he likes yes men....
shedboy2
Are we gradually imploding into total madness at this club. Firstly we take a punt on a 1 season wonder, who had been blown out from a PL rival in his previous job. Then we appoint a DOF, and between them the two then re-invest the proceeds, from largely inevitable player sales, in 7 whizz- kid signings, none with any PL or even English football experience, including £30M on one who is best described as "promising", and suffer the inevitable difficulty in fitting them into the side, if indeed if some of them are good enough. After several humiliating defeats, playing the most boring unattractive football seen at WHL for years, for the whole of the manager's tenure, we finally see the error of our ways and get rid of the "one season wonder". It gets better, because we then install a committee of 3 back room boys, to take over the management of the first team, and hint that the arrangement will last until the end of the season, that a totally rookie, inexperienced at senior level, management committee, will coach, instruct, man manage, and impose discipline, on a group of largely experienced international players. It is like promoting a site labourer to General Foreman, and expecting all the time served tradesmen to respect his judgement and knowledge, and take notice of his instructions, in short there would be no respect. This is just not how major PL football clubs perform, we are not a cash strapped championship, or league 1 club, looking for a miracle worker from the back room to emerge and take over. I can understand that these guys are caretakers, for a few games for a very limited period, whilst a full time experienced manager is appointed, but to continue the arrangement for the remaining 22 PL games, and the games in the CC, FA, and EL games, until the end of the season would be frankly both ridiculous, and even frightening, it is almost bound to go tits up. What does this mean for the January window, does this mean that we trade players based on this committee's recommendations, or do we do nothing, and wait until the summer, and a new coach. The eras of both Burkinshaw and Nicholson, both Spurs legends, are long gone and confined to history, and are unlikely to be repeated.
Frank
I am surprised that so many people suggest hoddle... Yes he is available, but he did not do too well last time. Plus he hasn't managed in ages, and the last gig was Wolves...
TonyRich
Ossie - Maybe the players have been ordered to stay 'shtum'? Certainly players who have left (Bale) and players at the club whilst AVB was here (Freidel, Vertonghen, Holtby, Dawson) have all spoken very highly of him. One things for sure, after listening to Les Ferdinand in the studio on Thursday nights, I'm crapping myself about him having a say in what happens on the pitch, lol.. Another thing is for sure, Defoe will think all of his Christmases have come at once. He'll have the mother of all boners, and is probably having a new contract drawn up as we speak, lol.

As ever, whoever gets the job as THFC manager, they'll get my full support, as will all of the players. I'm just gutted our game isn;t on TV tomorrow night, I'm excited to see if we are sent out to be more attacking, with some of our new players getting more of a chance than previously given.

coopsieyid
I'm posting ALL info I find about the manager, on the Titanic article. This one has made me do this :-(
coopsieyid
Frank…..Isn't it about time that football stopped it's obsession with instant success and may be learn a few good lessons from the past? Sherwood has a PL winners medal, but where are Blackburn Rovers now?
MAN ON!
Frank - agree....we are seeing our credibility as a top club being thrown in the gutter....Levy needs to move quickly...but will he? Sherwood is a cheap option and gives him another excuse not to spend any money in the transfer window....
shedboy2
I went for Hoddle simply because he is a good coach and manager, he was the best manager England had in the last few years. He had Chelsea playing good football with good players. At Spurs he took over about the same time Levy and Lewis brought the club from Sugar, he was not allowed to manage properly because Spurs had Pleat buying the players in the background, plus he did not have the best of players at the club at the time.
Ox Yid
Man on- instant success???...it took us years to break into the top4 and now we watch as it all gets flushed down the toilet...we got top4...not because of Levy but in spite of him...he needed to call a quick fix arry to get us out of the ****e his great Raoms Dof plan had got us into....Arry proved that a decent manager can get us competing at the top....
shedboy2
@shedboy, I understand what you are saying about proven big name managers but, as we have seen with foreign players, success in other leagues does not guarantee success in the EPL. I think we all feel a little uncomfortable with Sherwood but he must be given a chance to show if he can cut it and none of knows his qualities, we are just assuming he isn't up to it. In any event, from my perspective, he cannot be any worse than AVB whether that was due to him not getting the players he wanted or not.
Harry-Kari
Ox Yid- he's not my first choice but I agree, Hoddle has much better credentials and was sacked for non footballing reasons I don't think he'd sacked nowadays for a spiritual belief)...the last thing we need is another wet behind the ears manager...
shedboy2
shedboy2…… I'm talking about instant managerial success.
MAN ON!
I don't think we should writing off anyone so quickly. The boys on the pitch and the back-room boys will need the support. As for tomorrow's game, even the tea lady could set up the team to do better than our last performance against the Hammers.

am so glad that NO ONE from the club has come out voicing opinions. It is till early hours for for any noise to emanate from inside. I am sure the focus is on to get a positive result tomorrow. Interim or long term solutions, I'd rather take a it one step at a time than make undue hasty decisions. All eyes are on Spurs at the mo and it is paramount that we go about this professionally just to keep the vultures at bay. COYS!
Critical_Spur
Harri - Karri- I've said on another thread the manager should have experience of the prem.... but there is no reason why Sherwood MUST be given anything. He hasn't got the experience needed in any other field you don't walk into your first job right at the top....it's a huge gamble we don't need to take.
shedboy2
Maybe Coops, but I doubt that.
Ossie
Man on- how long are you willing to give a manager then?...AVB got us fifth last year and had a good win percentage but didn't make it to x-mas, why didn't Levy give him another 3 years?...imo AVB shouldn't have been given the job in the first place...he lacked experience...Sherwood has NO experience....
shedboy2
tim Sherwood/les Ferdinand the dream team
ghulamville
To be honest, I just hope that the new management team get us playing a bit like the old Spurs. We've been so bloody boring under AVB that I just wasn't even interested in watching the team anymore, and I've been a follower since 1963.
spurboy61
It seems like Hiddink is a no go, Klinsmann, Van Gaal and Capello have WC commitments, whilst do they want it anyway? Equally three of those are over 60. You at least get the feeling that Sherwood wants the job for the right reasons, whilst I guess Hoddle would crawl over broken glass for it
oxfordspur
Ox- fix the site!
shedboy2
Sherwood, would be the wrong choice long term, one big risk after another would not be sensible. I understand why he might be sensible for the next game or two. I say Hoddle until the end of the season giving time to get the best man for the job in the longer term. But he should be appointed ahead of the summer window. I would still like Martinez, failing that Laudrup and after that see how the rest of Southamptons season goes and have a think about Zola.
tophobunty01
Does anyone else have reservations about our back room staff. I look at the goalkeeping problems we've had under Tony Parks and have to wonder whether he is all that. I see nothing from our strikers to suggest Ferdinand is doing any better either and do wonder what Freund was actually doing. We all know Sherwood looked the part in the next gen but you have to wonder how much of that was down to Inglethorpe. I'm wishing them all well but do have reservations.
muttley
shedboy2…. I'm not saying Sherwood is the man for the job. I honestly don't know who is. Someone had to step in for now. He is not alone either. There is a team of them that do know Spurs inside out. All I'm saying is don't knock him before he's even started.
MAN ON!
I've just heard an idiot on talksport saying Hoddle wouldn't be any good as he hasn't managed since 2006.....so what? Women take that long off to have babies...at least he has managed and well before...Sherwood hasn't....
shedboy2
I really cannot decide what is best for the club. Part of me loves the romantic idea that a la promoted from within rises up to a saviour and gets us playing the 'Tottenham way'. But the thought of it terrifies me. I just cannot see it turning out well. All 3 backroom boys have no PL experience. If Freund is the first team coach surely he is better placed than anyone to manage the team? I just don't understand. What I d know is if I ran my business the way Spurs are being run, I would have gone under a long time ago.
Sebastian Short
Man on- I'll be furious if Sherwood is given this season to experiment with our club. I can understand a couple of games after that get a perm manger or appoint an interim manager with some bloody credentials...let's not waste a Jan window (again!) or another season....
shedboy2
shedboy2…. Hoddle would be my immediate choice, if anyone.
MAN ON!
Topho, Can U see Levy swallowing his pride by re-employing Hoddle, albeit short term? Same goes for any other ex-Spurs employee imo.
Critical_Spur
Now AVB has gone rightly or wrongly depending in which camp you sit or may be some sit in both camps at different times. The decision now as I see it is this. Does Levy feel we still have a chance of qualifying for CL this season or does he feel it's not within our grasp now? I am assuming if he feels as we are still not that far away from top four and teams at the top are still dropping points and therefore we still have a chance then I would expect him to go for a experienced manager asap to keep us among that possibility or if he feels it is better to take the pressure of the players and look long term next season and then Sherwood would make sense. Give him the chance to work with the players and see if he can bring the English PL into them, and bring their flare and skill out of them and then take time over the season to consider options, letting the WC take it's place.

I cannot see Levy seeing Sherwood as a replacement unless he feels this season is now about bringing the Spurs football back and getting the players settled, Sherwood doesn't have the experience however, does he see something in Sherwood that we don't see. May be Sherwood may not have the experience at managing a senior potential top four side with a lot of good players but may be he is ready and more than capable, just because he hasn't done it doesn't mean he cannot. Lets face it AVB had managed Porto and been successful and seemed to struggle in the PL, HR bags of experience but still couldn't take us over the line other than once even though twice we had the opportunity to make it only to fall at the last hurdle from Feb time. just because a manager has done it before with another club it doesn't mean they ca do it with every club, so it may be fair to say just because a manager hasn't done it with a club that they can't do it with a club, everyone starts somewhere although I wouldn't expect it to be with a potential top four side. However, Sherwood has been around at Spurs for a long time, he knows what the fans want, I am assuming he knows the PL inside out and he seems to be respected by the younger players and Levy, so who knows.

I am happy to see this season go and use it to get some balance and some blue print on the pitch of what we are going to be all about, hopefully an attacking, free flowing football with a bit of steel. However, the danger is if we don't get that top four will this mean we will lose a couple of our best players again in the summer, Vertonghen, Sandro, may be one or two of the ones we have brought in recently.

I personally think we have a great squad on paper but the balance is not right. I aid it during the summer window we seem to be bringing in too many similar players and overloading the midfield. My priority was a decent striker over the summer and if Bale went a replacement for him and a out and out winger for the LW but one who could cover Lennon. I think the striker situation at Spurs has been dire for a long time and it is not good enough. It is alright Ade making a noise but he was woeful last season and he didn't give a damn at times ANC delay return.

I have no idea about Sherwood long term or short term I don't know enough about his ideas or even his personality. Will these current players have respect for him? how will they deal with the language barrier? How will they deal with the pressure? However, it's time to take one game at a time and see what Levy does and support the lads and Sherwood and co and hopefully we can see some better football over the xmas period and be able to sing with a smile on our face, and have a happy xmas. We will see.
WorldPeace
muttley- I agree entirely! Sherwood also looks like an opportunist to me Inglethorpe was the man....where is he now? how much have we improved since he left?r
shedboy2
shedboy2… How can you say you'd be furious? What if he proves himself and get's us playing good, winning football?
MAN ON!
coopsieyid- I again echo your points, usually do.. AVB will be a success somewhere our anti this or that section of support share a portion of the blame for his failure. Sherwood a good stop gap but like winning at Roulette, with no track record he succeeds. Southampton guy must have something to achieve what he has there. useful he speaks foreign languages. Not Glenn Hoddle his man management is on a par with AVB.
camper
Personally Sherwood for the next few games only, and go get Laudrup, Hoddle is a definite no no for me, been out of the game too long.
Ossie
Lets not forget we are only five points behind fourth and six points behind third. It would be silly imo to give in now so I am still thinking Sherwood is a short term couple of games while Levy brings in a experienced manager, surely it is worth fighting for this season. If we mess up our next game and others win then fair enough it may look more difficult but xmas usually shows some changes as fixtures come thick and fast and who knows a good run could actually keep us in contention and ready for Jan window to make a strong challenge after xmas.

I think the immediate problem is injuries at the back and suspension of Dawson. Losing Paulinho doesn't help but we have cover for the midfield but the back line is leaking goals and we are short, plus loris has not been his assured self recently.
WorldPeace
Man on- because it's incompetent/negligent to take such a risk...if he does well great. Will he do well next year with new players he doesn't know?...we would only know if he were any good by the time it would too late to do anything about it! The odds are stacked heavily against him... So much for top4, time for us all to start dreaming of just staying in the PL...oh what dreams are made of!
shedboy2
Ossie - hoddle hasn't been out of the game...out of 1st team mgt but not the game....
shedboy2
The Back Room Boys- The Best Salesman does not always make the best manager; Long Long ago in a land before time a certain football club had a policy, the results and trophies they won should be looked up, as they are far, far to many to mention, see they had this policy started by a new manager, it run for a number years, until the system changed, you may well know the names; Shankly and other "Boot Room" members Joe Fagan, Reuben Bennett, and Bob Paisley, so giving Sherwood a chance may just prove to be right, but yes time will tell.
spu 4 life
We don't even know if this sacking was planned for now or AVB also had enough and didn't have it in him to do the job anymore.
Kong
camper - AVB may well become a success elsewhere (if he can recover from the 2 major failures). But we are not to blame. He is just too inexperienced. He failed to adapt & learn. He failed to handle media pressure. Even Paolo Di Canio was big enough to admit that he learned from his Sunderland experience. Will AVB do the same...? He was just the wrong choice. AVB's high line was too easily targeted by the opposition, and when it fails, boy does it fail. We could have worn that if the other end was ok, but 15 goals in 16 games is far from inspiring. I would have kept him for the season, but I doubt that it would have improved.
TonyRich
WP - we can't let this season go - we're still in four competitions FFS. It's a great squad, ripe for someone charismatic to energise them into a real force. That's unlikely to be Sherwood you would think but who knows, if they respond to him, he might get the nod full time.
Love totty
I'll be furious if Sherwood !!!! Wins us the capital one cup, takes us to the final of the europa and wins that, knocks arsenal out of the fa cup and we go onto to win that and to finish in the top four would be nothing short of a disaster for us, see that's the most he can do?
spu 4 life
Let's hope Sherwood is a opportunist and gets spurs beating WestWham tomorrow night. Going to be a Testing time for all associated with THFC. Like to see...4,4,2 for the Westwham game. Soldado,Defoe,Townsend,Dembele,Capoue,Lennon,Rose,Fryers(Veljkovic),Chiriches,Walker,Lloris.
82spursdebut
Yesterday a sky sports reporter from outside white hart lane said and quote ''Tottenham Hotspur made the decision to sack AVB 10 days ago'' sundays result was the last straw.
spu 4 life
TonyRich - agree the defence has been exposed all season, but Dembele etc in midfield lost the ball in bad positions. But it was job in progress, best AVB left now!.
camper
Morning all, Been away this weekend so first post since the hammering / AVB departure so let me start by saying……..what choice did Levy have? I was all for AVB taking charge and on paper it looked like a good decision. Unfortunately it hasn’t worked, the football we were playing was several levels below what we expect and it wasn’t improving. After the second spanking in as many weeks what else could he do? Time wasn’t the cure IMO, a change of playing style and methodology was, and AVB obviously thought he was onto something which nobody else could see

Manager wise, I have no idea who we can bring in now, mid-season and 6 months before the World Cup it’s going to prove very difficult to bring in anyone who’s worth bringing in. Hoddle..…come on be serious, the Guys been out of the loop for the last half decade. It’s the Shearer at Newcastle situation FFS! Capello, Very good manager but not for THFC and not with the players we have. I can’t believe im reading names like Klopp on here. Never in a million years guys. For me id see how we got on with the Back room staff until the end of the season. The worst thing we could do is appoint ANOTHER manager who would last half a season. Its certainly not the end of the world as some seem to think but we are not in a good position. This was meant to be the start of a special era at THFC and the board (and some fans in a way) have got it spectacularly wrong. All we can cling onto is the fact that we do have a very dceent squad, and maybe a new manager (or Sherwood etc) can get the best out of Lamela, Soldado etc
hudderspur
Spu 4 life......that sky sports reporter is DUMB !!
82spursdebut
spu 4 life-...;)...furious with Levy...all the same. Would you put your baby in the back of car driven by a 17 year old that has just passed his test for a road trip to Germany? Of course you'd be glad they arrived safely but your judgement would ****e in letting them do it in the first place!
shedboy2
Spurs are not a baby who's life is at risk!
MAN ON!
shedboy2 - agreed that Levy messed up by hiring someone so experienced when it was clear that we needed someone seasoned to take it further from Harry. If you were going down the younger progressive route, then it had to be Martinez, who is rubbing our face in it right now.... To take your analogy further, that 17 year-old had previously crashed a royal blue porsche on his second drive after passing his test. And you now you let him drive your lillywhite Bentley on a trip to Germany...
TonyRich
Hoddle is not a man manager. He was a brilliant footballer - end of. It would be another Dalglish scenario. I just love Shedboy2, Frank and Co knocking Sherwood for "no experience". Where has he and the others in the group of 3 been these last Years? Planet Mars? Do they know the players already? Yes. They know their strengths, weaknesses, personalities. WE know **** all about the players really although it seems some posters know them much better than anyone. Big Name Bla Bla Bla. If we dont get a "name" we are cr*p etc etc. I'll get behind Sherwood & Co for as long as needed. Not keep on with the negative negative negative...............
maccaspur
Hoddle can still do a job. I have no problem with him on a temp basis. He would relish the chance to redeem himself and become the hero of WHL. COYS!
James1
Man on- I think you'll find Spurs is metaphorical 'baby' to a lot of people....
shedboy2
Levy has a track record for stabbing mangers in the back. BMJ sacked, everyone knew except for Martin, who was on the touchline at the time. Prior to that Levy seen sneaking off to meetings with Ramos. Similar problems reported with Harry regarding transfers, to those mentioned in the article. ie: penny piching, rather than getting Mourtinho at the proper price.
His treatment and lack of support for Hoddle wasn't great either.
In fact, the CLUB has a history of similar behaviour. Some will remember, Irwin Scholar's antics, when Keith Burkinshaw was manager.
Hotspur 1882
shedboy2…… I was nearly crying like one on sunday. :-)
MAN ON!
Harry top of the League with QPR.
He would probably tell Levy, very politely :o) where to go.
Then again - Portsmouth to Southampton to Portsmouth!
Hotspur 1882
maccaspur- end of....really? that line is usually reserved for the intellectually challenged...please tell me you know the difference between working as part of the staff and being the 1st team manager? As for being negative is it to want a qualified man (or woman!) to manage our club rather than experiment?....negative is not to try and get the best that we can....
shedboy2
Can somebody/anybody please give me a link that states "Sherwood is the manager until the end of the season" As far as I'm aware, or have seen, he is the INTERIM manager, with help, whilst discussions are ongoing. (Go on the official site and read their statement on his appointment.) So why do so many on here have a problem with that? Interim..... look it up in the dictionary ... Interim = = = intervening, provisional, temporary. Nothing about season long, etc. If he does well then maybe Levy will decide to give him until the end of the season but at the mo he is only a stopgap. A new manager cannot be materialised overnight so would you all prefer we had NOBODY IN CHARGE? Hell's bell's there is so much negativity on here atm without any reason. Some just only want to see the bad things in everything!!!
longtimespur
No, not Harry!
MAN ON!
longtimespur….Thank you!
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Even the first sentence in Ox's article says what ???????????? "Sherwood and backroom staff will be taking team for the next 2 games maybe longer."
longtimespur
Despite all the differences of opinion across this, and any other thread on VS, there is one thing everyone agrees on .... COYS! So, whoever is running things at the moment let's just get behind them and support our lads.
Geofspurs
longtimespur- who on here has said they have a problem with Sherwood taking over for a couple of games?....
shedboy2
Critical, I would be surprised if Levy swallowed anything. Esp taking back Hoddle as you say. Having said that Levy needs to look at himself and the appointment of AVB was a huge risk on the back of his faliure and sacking at Chelsea. With that in mind if he is too stubborn and proud or whatever to take Hoddle back then he has not learned, reagrdless of whether or not Hoddle would be a success. I think he is a good and safe call for the rest of the season and maybe longer, he was a very good England manager, lets not remember in his term he qualified england for the world cup top of a group which included Italy and obviously that was managing top players, with large Ego's. I am not sure he is the ideal choice, but we might have missed that boat for this season by not taking Martinez, Rodgers or Laudrup when we punted on AVB. Zola might do a very good interim job too and huge respect would walk through the door with him also.
tophobunty1882
MAN ON ... you're more than welcome!
longtimespur
too true Geof...COYS....I will be at the lane tomorrow, not sure its graet timing but just cant get there often these days, I guess it might be a strange atmosphere, but I will, as usual sing the old ticker out...
tophobunty1882
longtimespur, my first sentence was all about what has been officially stated. However I do believe that is those two games and perhaps the christmas period is successful within reason, that Sherwood might well bet the job for the season at least. I actually believe that Levy sees Sherwood as a good and safe choice. also he knows and will work within the system. it has been mooted for some time that Sherwood was on the supposed committee opt people that looked at player purchases, and that committee included. Levy, Redknapp/AVB and latterly Baldini.
oxfordspur
Tim Sherwood and his Blue and White Army!? Back room Boys and their…………… COYS!
MAN ON!
I would take Sherwood and Co til the end of the season rather than employing someone else knee jerk who we dont really want as there isn't much available this time of year.
spurs-stelios
Tomorrow could vindicate Levy's decision of really ramp up the pressure on him. I'm not so sure the players were all working harmoniously with AVB, there had been rumblings for a number of week sof player un rest at positions and tactics. Hopefully the Game agaisnt West Ham will see a liberated team playing free flowing attackign football while limited West Ham to long distance punts and half chances. If thats what we get then moving on AVB was the corredt move. It may also take the pressur eoff finding a long term replacement. But I am more interested int eh performance and style of play then the end result. happy days if we get both!
Slurms McKenzie
topho ... wish I could be there too ... can't even get it on TV here. Have a great night (it's got to be better than the last game) and looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it afterward. ;-)
Geofspurs
Geof it'll be an internet link for me as supplied by the helpful techies on Vital spurs!
Slurms McKenzie
Speakign of helpful techies - who broke the site and more importantly who is goign to fix it?
Slurms McKenzie
slurms - tomorrow won't vindicate Levy, we would have expected AVB to win the match and players always try harder when there's a change (we'd get a longer bounce with a new face though)....A decision we can pass judgement on now was the one to appoint AVB...it was wrong! Will he learn? he doesn't seem to...
shedboy2
Geof, i think i will struggle to get online too much after, staying in london and mrs will want so food I guess, plus some shopping thursday morning. Just hope its not too painful, we are a very serious mess right now thats for sure.
tophobunty1882
It will be interesting to see who Sherwood plays tomorrow night. Soldado or Defoe, Will Lamela get a game? 4-4-2….4-3-3…..it will be interesting. I don’t think there is any pressure on him for tomorrow night as the mood in the camp must be low. I am very surprised that not a single player has come out and held there hands up. The captain of the team and probably worst player on the pitch on Sunday has not come out and apologised for their disgraceful display. End of the day yes AVB’s tactics and team sections etc have cost us but there were 11 players on that pitch who could have played a lot better. Im pretty ashamed that the senior players haven’t come out and said as much. Pretty darn cowardly IMO.
hudderspur
tops- that's one thing we should all agree on, it's a mess!....and one entirely of Levy's making....stupid appointment, does he have a transition plan for a new guy? will he appoint another experiment?
shedboy2
shedboy ... most of the posts appear to be critical of his appointment for however long. Some just seem to think he's here longtime. lol, I haven't found anywhere that states this so I'm querying where their information has come from? Oxfordspur .... I think the same way as that but why do people jump on him straight away. He is only interim manager ATM so why all these negative comments about him? That's all!! Some don't see the wood for the trees I suppose. lol Just get behind him and see where we go. BTW I also have read, somewhere else before, about Levy rating him. I just hope he won't be a Yesman. There can't be that many available managers at the moment anyway. Well not that would or could take us to the next level. I think it might be more advisable to wait until the WC has finished then appoint whomever Levy wants. That way the new man could start with the strong squad we have until the Jan window and, having assessed them,make any adjustments he feels necessary. Which manager with any sense wouldn't love a squad like ours as a starting position?
longtimespur
hudderspur…. Could it be the players have agreed with Levy and co to stay silent?
MAN ON!
Shedboy lets not re-write history, the decision to appoint AVB was the wrong one in hind-sight and we all have twenty twenty vision in Hind-sight. Unfortuantely football management isn't a one size fits all. we don't know how a manager will work out until you suck 'em and see. Any of the names being touted at the moment could be a disaster or herald a new golden age for spurs. we won't know until we know! and neither will Levy.
Slurms McKenzie
shedboy2… Is it not always an experiment?
MAN ON!
Will Lamela start playing more regurlarly now, we will find out tomorrow. Some are saying that Lamela was a Baldini signing ion that AVB didn't want him. Maybe that is why we didn't see much of him. Will be interesting to see the line up tomorrow.
Kong
Slurms ... that's interesting re the link. And, yes. someone please fix the site! topho ... most teams in our current situation seem to pull something out the hat, so I'm quite optimistic you'll come away happy! Mind you, history has proved that my optimism cannot be relied on. ;-)
Geofspurs
Slurms the decision to appoint AVB was wrong at the time as I and others pointed out...that's not re-writing history, that's history vindicating our opinions...as for suck it and see yes that does seem to be how Levy makes his appointments but far from a logical and professional way to select an appointment.
shedboy2
Sherwood would suit Levy in that he will be his yes man and do what he and Baldini wants.
Kong
Kong, would be a potential disaster to follow Baldrick i think
tophobunty1882
James1 how do you know that Hoddle can still do a job? By the same token how do you know Sherwood can't do a job? Sherwood and the rest have been around the players constantly, have probably worked with them technically and probably have a deep sense, as we so often ourselves expound here, of how best they could be used to play a more fluid, attacking style. Lets get behind Tim for the next two games and see how it goes.
jvd
Man on - to an extent, there is no certainty when appointing someone but you don't just give it to guy you like. You look at all the criteria needed to be a success in the job and find a person who has met that criteria....and at the PL (premier, the name implies the top) we should be able to select people who have demonstrated they can do it rather than fingers crossed.
shedboy2
Apparently AVB was under severe pressure to p[lay Ade as well as Lamela, who we all now know had absolutely nothing to do with AVB signing him. Also just before he said WE about putting the squad together he also said, I don't know if I should mention this and then stopped himself and went into the we stuff. That shows the signings mostly weren't his. Also he is supposed to have fallen out with Baldini pretty badly. ............................................................................. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/news/andre-villas-boas-sacked-dead-man-2934957
chrishove123
kong, I dont see sherwood as a yes man, but I do feel he will take the job without trying to disrupt the way Levy and Baldini want to structure it. At this time, I believe that Sherwood is very well thought of and is actively wanting the job. equally if he doesn't get it or at least have a chance to prove himself, we will see him leaving once a new man arrives if he doesn't feel he had at least been given the chance
oxfordspur
So Sherwood is in for now. Let's see how the team does under his management. Give hims some time to see whether he can get things balanced again. Unless someone else already has been chosen, there is no reason to rush into signing some new manager. Too likely that a rushed decision will be regretted later, and we've seen too many managerial decisions at WHL regretted later. Stick with Sherwood for now, give the lad a chance to find his balance and to balance the performance of the team. If it becomes clear that he is in over his head, then there is time to find someone else. But I see no reason to rush things now just to have a headline star manager in place. Hopefully the board will be thinking about a possible replacement for Sherwood while giving him an honest opportunity to find his way and prove his worth. Do not rush for the sake of rushing.
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Verts out for four more weeks.
chrishove123
Let's be positive and give Sherwood a few games. Let's also be honest in that it can't be much worse than the dross we've had served up for the past few months. We might be pleasantly surprised. Let's hope so. At least that way we get some time to try and make the right long-term choice.
SpuriousLife
One think for sure, with injuries and the mess with formation/confidence/lack of goals, I expect a transformed team and the performance to match. Hopefully the likes of Lamela and Eriksen will both figure and eve two strikers to make a point. No way will we be playing as per previous labouring style......surely?!
Critical_Spur
So Sherwood is damned before we kick a ball in anger? AVB wasn't my first choice either Shed but the logic of the approach could be seen. He was given the chance and he failed simple as. For whatever reason he couldn't get the team to play the way he wanted (At least I hope thats not how he wanted them to play) and there was very little signs that thsi was changing. I would agree it was harsh on AVB if we didn't have a decent sqaud avialable and he was doing the best with what he had but that just isn't the case!
Slurms McKenzie
Also HOW can they even be thinking about bringing that disrespectful second rate smirking moron benny back?????
chrishove123
By the way, I'd like to express some dismay that my name is being printing after the name of the person making every post on here. Even when I post, I find my name printed immediately after may name! Please stop printing my name after the name of every poster on every post. If this continues, I will have to report abuse taking place.
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JVD- how do you know Hoddle can do a job?- he's done it! you think you just forget? Should women not be allowed their jobs back after taking time out to raise kids? How do we know Sherwood can't do the job - we don't, no-one knows, he's never done it...Why would a club who supposedly wants to dine at the top table of football take such a huge gamble? Put your mortgage on a roulette table if it comes off you're a genius!
shedboy2
Oh, I see. That isn't my name being printed at the bottom of every post, but a link to report abuse. I guess I'm just a total knobhead in misunderstanding this. Sorry. Never mind. You can report me for this if you'd like.
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Topho - I think Baldini will be heavily involved with the recruitment of the new manager and the new manager will be reporting into Baldini. Whether that is a good thing or not time will tell. Oxfordspur, I am happy to give Sherwood time, he should know the players and work within the framework levy wants as you mentioned. Is it exciting times, who knows. nothing is ever normal for us Spurs fans.
Kong
Well at least these pathetic international breaks are over for a while so we will not be left to fester in our uncertainties for 2 weeks, after all we are playing Wednesday and Sunday. I would be grateful if Sherwood makes a reasonable success of the role because I would prefer a British manager and someone who will be with us for a while, our own Wenger or Ferguson. All I want is to see us play with flair, creativity and score some goals. I am delighted Sherwood is being given the opportunity
cynicspur
slurms - the logic in appointing AVB was flawed as is the logic in appointing Sherwood on a perm basis.
shedboy2
MAN_ON: That may well be the case, its been documented in the past that Levy has put his hand over many a mouth about issues he would rather keep in house. Whilst i understand that, i dont see what possible harm it could do by someone like Dawson or Lennon coming out and saying there performances have not helped AVB....unless they actually beleive that the tactics etc have been a direct cause for thier poor displays? Regarding Sherwood and his caretaker role, im not being funny but with the players availble i would fancy my chances at getting a few results out of them!! Short term wont be the problem, its how we plan the next few years. Maybe thats our problem though....lets worry about tommorrow and deal with next week when it comes along.
hudderspur
According to reports Hoddle has turned down 27 job offers, now that if it is true shows many people still think he has what it takes. Doesn't mean he does for a PL team like Spurs but what it does show is his maturity to be able to say 'no' and take his time to take the 'right' offer up if he gets one.

I hear what people say, he has been out of the game for so long but he is currently as I have heard running football in Spain, is this true? He may have been using this time out of management, scouting and watching players, learning new coaching skills a whole ray of things, we do not know. I don't think we can disregard him just because he hasn't managed a club for a few years, especially if that his choice and he has been using his time to improve himself. However, I am not saying he is the right man, in all honesty I don't know but what I am saying is stop making judgments when the facts about him are not known. Sometimes people do take a break to reflect and to improve themselves.

Sherwood is a another difficult one because again many people are assuming he hasn't the experience. In one way they are right but do any of us know the guy, know his vision, methods, and abilities. He seems to be one who has been around at Spurs for a while and has been talked about highly, we just don't know what his capabilities are, any manager who takes charge is a gamble.

Managers are not given time especially at a top club, and successful managers at one team doesn't mean they will be successful at another, that has happened, sometimes it about 'connection' with the club and players and sometimes it is about who they work with, their support team. Look at Moyes been fantastic at Everton and is struggling at Utd yet he has the same squad didn't lose any of their best players. Every appointment is a gamble and in all honesty we cannot predict what will happen all we can do is accept what levy decides and support whoever comes in and see how it goes. Whether that manager is English, foreign, bags of experience or little experience, been in the game regular or out of the game, young, older or even a woman, now that would be great imo. May be it is time to do something different altogether and employ the England Woman's ex manageress Hope Powell
WorldPeace
I was at WHL for the PL West Ham defeat and I'll be there tomorrow. It now seems that loss was the the beginning of the end for AVB. So full circle in to the next match. It will be won or lost on the night so whoever plays I hope and expect them to go for it without fear. We need our season back on track asap.
MAN ON!
If thats true Kong I think its a HUGE mistake by us. possibly bigger than HUGE.
tophobunty1882
Blind leading the Blind.
tophobunty1882
chrishove123- what has Benny done wrong?...he didn't like AVB, he's glad he's gone so what? He comes to games, always has time for Spurs fans...he's not been disparaging about the club...
shedboy2
Report Abuse you are the new voice of reason on this site. Sherwood will be given a run of games to show what he can do and the fact we are seventh gives us the luxury of taking this strategy. I doubt he can do any worse than AVB
cynicspur
Topho - If that is not how it will work then I don't know why Baldini is there, he is expensive if he is just there to oversee transfers and buy players he wants rather than what the manager needs. I thought AVB reported into Baldini.
Kong
agree shed ref BAE.
tophobunty1882
After the tweets I didn't want BAE and Ade anywhere near the club but since then I have softened as have to think what is best for the team. Ekotto has been tweeting a lot, didn't like his tweet after the liverpool game as that was a low point for the club. If he is recalled then it is a fresh start for everyone.
Kong
How do you know Hoddle can't do a job at WHL jvd? He's proven at the highest level with England and with the players we have I'd say he'd do a better job than last time at WHL, but I doubt Levy will take him on board. I've also backed Sherwood for the interim job (if you look further up!) and I've also said I wish luck to anyone who takes on the role. COYS!
James1
AVB had too go really. How he got a squad internationals playing I'm such a suppressed and laboured in all aspects of our game. I firmlky believe thsaf he put himself under immense pressure with his inability to change his rigid and unproductive tactics, playing players out of positions and not ditching that ridiculous high line crap. As a coach, it was his job to recognise his wrongdoings and implement different strategies for different games and so on. But he just didn't do that. For me he had to go. And I will be backing Sherwood and the 4 coaches all the way! COYS!!
Lady Tottingham
I'd welcome BAE back in a flash. I'd like to see him in our kit tomorrow starting at LB. Don't forget, after the Tottenham riot he was the first one connected with our club who came to the streets of N17 to support the people. Bring back Bennie! He didn't like AVB, but AVB wasn't particularly likeable to him either. Bring Bennie back. Now.
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Pictures of today's training session are out, chiriches looks fit now as in one picture he is seen making a sliding tackle. Not sure if he will play tomorrow tho considering he and dawson is the only fit CB's.
Kong
shedboy2 ... Good post on Benny. I totally agree with that, like the guy, and would be happy to see him back in a Spurs shirt. He has admitted that he does not have much time for football beyond it being a job (that's honesty) and yet he watches Spurs games ... so, what does that say?!
Geofspurs
wp- no one is assuming Sherwood doesn't have the experience...it is a fact, he doesn't have experience of managing a 1st team at this level. All those saying how do we know he won't do a good job? we don't! the burden of proof is to show he can...that proof is not there. In 1992 during a presentation at Caltech, skeptic James Randi uses the phrase "you can't prove a negative". He claims that he cannot prove a negative (such that telepathy does not exist), but he also argues that an individual who claims telepathy exists must prove so...so where is the proof that Sherwood is qualified to manage a top4 team? (permanently)
shedboy2
BAE did not diss our club so far as I know. He may well have dissed AVB, but that was between one man and another and was not a diss of our club.

I'm not taking any stand on Adebayor here. I'll leave it to Sherwood to decide how he wants to handle that situation. After all, he's the manager until someone decides otherwise. Let's let him start to do his job.

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It's all very well talking about who's going to manage the team, but who is going to manage the weight of expectation. Did we really think (just because we spent 107mil) we'd win the league this year? Really? Top 4 was always going to more difficult this year with Liverpool and Everton coming on strong not to mention the usual top 4. So now there's 7 teams realistically fighting for the top 4, but with all this disruption perhaps only 6. We're not in a fight for the top 4 now, nor are we in a fight for survival, but we are now in a fight for stability and hoping for a miracle. I don't know if Sherwood can command the respect of the Squad, but I hope he can at least pick a regular team that plays hard in their natural positions and he uses the squad when players look tired or injured - and not out of some notion of random rotation. Players must earn the right to displace the first team regulars. In most teams you can practically name the first team and then the ideal stand in player for each position, but not Spurs at the moment. Our players don't even know who they are hoping to replace in the first team. I want to see stability and realistic ambitions AND WE STILL NEED A FECKIN STRIKER - BENTEKE PLEASE!
SPUDMAN
Shedboy, how's he done it? Was he good as a manager? Did he get the results or the most out of the players he had? We don't need to appoint someone who will have to come in and learn the players over the next 10 games before he can figure out how best to use them. My take is simply that I have absolutely no confidence that DL can pick the right man for the job from a bunch like Martinez, Rodgers, Laudrup and AVB. And now you want him to choose between Hoddle, Capello, Hiddink, and goodness knows who else. At the moment Sherwood is the least of our worries because his appointment in the short term carries some continuity, hopefully in a more attacking style and allows DL to see who is interested.
jvd
Reading some reports that are being published wrt the demand for Adevayor and Lamela to be more integrated with team makes me think that the problems with the board started before the City destruction. One of Lamela's only 2 starts and also Ade's only appearance. Looks like this has been an inevitable for a while. Anyway. Cheers King AVB Geoffrey.
mellowchaos
Quite frankly does anyone believe that Martinez or Laudrup or Pochinno would leave what they have or are building to come to Spurs now, at this precise moment? My guess is NO!
jvd
Report Abuse, you dis the manager you dis the club. They are supposed to be one unit so dis one dis both. As far as I'm concerned he DID dis the club by taking the p1$$ out of the loss because it also is taking the p1$$ out of the players on the field. Also how do you think the players would feel when they saw that idiot come smirking into the room after pulling a stiunt like that? I'd want to punch him in the face for that.
chrishove123
Looks like Monaco could be after Walker as they regard him as one of the best in England. ............................................................... http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/tottenham-kyle-walker-monaco-transfer-2936035
chrishove123
I am with shedboy and Frank on this - Sherwood and the backroom team as an interim measure makes perfect sense and I will support whoever is in charge. However, it should be exactly that - an interim measure. There is no way i would advocate this for the rest of the season. there is still a long way to go and we have a squad that a high quality manager can work with to deliver results. Laudrup or De Boer for me, without doubt. Would prefer Hiddink for the short-term while we wait for one of them if necessary but that's not going to happen so we might have to pay a wedge to get them sooner. I get the references to Burkinshawe, Nicholson, and the Liverpool bootroom as blueprints for success but seriously...can anyone name a single example of that type of appointment working in English football in the last 25yrs? Keegan returning at Newcastle, Roy Evans at Liverpool, Hoddle first time round with us, Dalglish returning at Liverpool, Souness at Liverpool, the list goes on. Heart ruling head. Nonsense.
whyteheart
I just love the ever chanted Tottenham Way. So, to not win anything but the odd cup, here and there, if we're lucky. There is no plan here. This was not thought out. The downside is huge, yet people say, oh, give it a go. Well, does Sherwood have any chance of bettering 72 points? Nominal, at best. AVB did. He wanted out. Some great articles today outlining all that AVB wanted and didn't get. Sherwood is not the answer to any questions. You can't just step in and manage a squad in four competitions. If Adebayor or BAE ever play for Spurs again, the season is lost. If people don't think their teammate have issues with such things they are deluded. A lot of suggestion that Sherwood and AVB did not see eye to eye either and that Sherwood is Levy's man. The board wanted AVB to play differently. When non-football people make football decisions the results are predictable. Give me a go. Why the F not. We clearly don't want to win anything. And we laugh at Arsenal? COYS
peterballb
Sorry one of EUROPE'S best not just England's.
chrishove123
After AVB was sacked at Chelsea,Wasnt Di matteo promoted as the manager and they went on to win the Champions League?Well I wouldnt say he was a world class manager but he did an okay job.They did play with more attacking flair than AVB!Should Sherwood be given the chance?How bad could he be?Noone has seen the future!As for top 4,its a lost cause in my opinion
SilwalYid
What makes Ade and BAE even more disrespectful to club and fans is the pathetic denials they are now giving for that original tweet. I always liked Benny, but he's messed up. Ade needs to go far away.
MAN ON!
jvd- how's who done what? I do agree in having no faith in Levy being able to pick a manager ( I suspect he got the DoF appointment wrong as well but we'll see)....it looks like he's going for the out the box solution and not picking one!
shedboy2
Hey there chrishove123,

I think it a bit too much to think that a man who feels he has been done wrong can be forced to keep his mouth shut about it. BAE obviously thinks AVB did him wrong. He spoke up about it. I'm all right with that and I don't take it as a diss of the club. My impression is that BAE has been respectful of the club throughout his time here. He certainly did the club proud in the immediate aftermath of the Tottenham riot, more so than any other person associated with the club, and that bought him a lot of credit with me. I respect that your view differs from mine. So be it.

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I also anticipate my view of Bennie will bring me a lot of flack here. That's OK. I sure think we could use him at LB right now, though, and I'd welcome him back. (I wouldn't welcome back Burping Toss, though, who refused to wear our shirt while forcing his way out, and same for the little Modder Focker, who refused too play for us. They disrespected the club, not just a single person, as did Bennie.) Just my take on the situations.
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JVD – the only one I would take out of those 3 would be Martinez and as you mention, why the hell would he leave Everton? Pochinno is far too risky, looks ok in his first season but let’s see how he progress. I think he style will be found out. I think we went for the long plan with AVB but were not prepared for the wait. IF levy honestly believed that this was just a blip and that the plan were still on track then he would be here today. The fact is, he got it wrong and therefore had to amend his mistake. But how many times will he get it wrong? Levy needs to take a long hard look at why this problem keeps coming up. My opinion is we stop all this “10 year plan” malarkey and concentrate on finishing as high as we can in the present season. Im not saying “sod the future”… im just saying that the present shouldn’t take a back seat. I don’t know about anyone else but I am sick of hearing “one for the future”….i want to see us competing in the CL and heaven forbid actually win a bloody trophy!
hudderspur
SilwalYid- I don't know how bad Sherwood could be, neither do you, nor the board...that is the point. Di Mateo wasn't a good enough manager but he was a figure head for the snr pro's to get on and win a cup...hence he's no longer employed.
shedboy2
yep why would a man leave Everton to come to us?....wouldn't have even been a question a year ago...we're certainly going to a new level!
shedboy2
I was happy when we got avb and fully backed him, it ended in failure. I'm not keen on Sherwood so it is likely work out and make me look an idiot (Which doesnt take much).
Kong
report abuse, I agree that benny has always been a good sort, and we could certainly do with some cover at LB, but there is no question that posting that picture with the "good game LOL" was an incredibly stupid thing to do, and whether it was the intention or not (I also doubt it was) it was still disrespectful to the club. However much he hates AVB, to suggest that a 5-0 hammering at home to liverpool is any way, shape or form a laughing matter is pretty unacceptable and the fans will certainly be echoing that because the stupid fools have gotten so much coverage over it.
Guernman
Its a mess. There is no one remotely suitable available or realistic. There is clearly no plan. And so we have to plump for a completely untried coach from within. Untried at ANY meaningful level. Fantastic. The mind boggles at the boards incompetence.
StillRickyVilla
THIS season is the worst I have ever seen Spurs play since Ramos, Sherwood can not be any worse than AVB, would rather we got a interim in with experience, but I'm hell of a lot more positive about the future of Spurs than I was 3 days ago.
coys1717
I think AVB would have quit anyway so we would have been in this situation anyway. Time to act and sort this out.
Kong
A very interesting insight to what went on in the back room and who said what. .................................................................................. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10521678/Tottenham-chairman-Daniel-Levy-and-manager-Andre-Villas-Boas-had-become-distant.html
chrishove123
Shedboy-Tomorow,We might have a glimpse of what Sherwood is capable of!Well a match wouldn't hurt would it?You also have to consider the fact that Sherwood had opportunities of managing other English clubs!This season is already a mess and let us say we bring a new manager; how would you know how he is going to perform!Every manager is a gamble at this stage.
SilwalYid
Sherwood might do worse than AVB and not get any points. If it does not go right the next few games, Levy will be getting from the fans not Sherwood.
Kong
Shedboy completely agree with u re.your comparison with di mateo. You would expect any new man to have a short term impact. So he does quite well for a few games (which isnt hard - this team is winning more games than it ever has), give him the permanent job and we find out 12/18 months down the line hes not up to managing a PL club. Great. Back to where we started again. Its a mess.
StillRickyVilla
Yes he did SilwalYid, but he did manage a Prem Lge club before so not the same with Sherwood!!

Agreed Shed about BAE, as far as Im concerned he has not disrespected the club, and hopefully will be back in Jan. As for Ade lets just hope he's over his injury concerns..
Ossie
Whats all this about sherwood cant do any worse? We have currently got more points than last season (and that was a record breaking season), we are above the league champions (yet for some reason moyes gets off scot free!). We are in ALL competitions (win tomorrow and we are one step from wembley). And the last 18 months has seen us win more games than we EVER have. I will support the new man but its a tough job. Maintain the results whilst integrating a squad of strangers and dealing with the chairman from hell and baldini. Good luck.
StillRickyVilla
we have some very talented players in a larger squad who signed up to be a part of the new direction revolution. if we get knocked out of the cups and most of these players have to sit on their asses then there will be a lot of busy agents paving exit strategies for the summer window. I don't believe that sherwood has the kind of appeal to keep the likes of lloris, vertonghen, chiriches, walker, sandro, eriksen, lamela, dembele etc happy to stay. de boer has at least worked with a few of these players, plus he is already building up a healthy looking managerial resume not mention his achievements and experience as a player. We cannot afford to rush a new appointment nor can we afford to wait, that is the mess we find ourselves in
Guernman
Bring in Jurgen Klinsmann, not as the next manager, but to replace DL and to hire the next manager. Discuss.
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Report Abuse Hi, I wasn't on about what benny SAID, I was on about the picture with Ade. To MY mind that IS dising the club, because as the special one and AVB both say, if you wear the same shirt you have the same face, and benny didn't, so under that premise he dissed AVB he dissed the club and in dissing the club he also disses the fans who support the club by taking the mickey out of us losing 5 0. It wasn't AVB who lost us that game it was the team as well, so the picture reclects on them too. As I said if I were in the changing room and he walked in after that photo expecting everythimng to be hunky dory between him and everyone else, I think he has a huge shock coming to him. Do you think The Beast would really go up to him and say Oh by the way Benny, Way to go with that pic of you and Ade, or do you think he'd go over and call him a **** for it? Just my thoughts on it. I'm not saying you are wrong and I am right, and I'm not giving you clack over it I'm just offering my view with an explanation as to how I see it this way.
chrishove123
Just watching Skysports. Moyes saying hes grateful he works for the Man u board as they understand you need time and stability. Allardyce saying it would have been IMPOSSIBLE for anyone to intergrate a squad so quickly given the sheer amount of changes. Yet apart from a couple of freak results we were doing well. Winning more games than we EVER have and in ALL competitions. People start bringing back the 'high-line' yet before sunday we had joint best defence in league! The whole thing is a joke. We will never be successful.
StillRickyVilla
We are a joke of a club. Far too early to sack a a manager that is within reach of top 4 and still in contention for every competition, if you are going to do that at least have a replacement in place like he did with Jol and Ramos. All I can say to the next manager is watch your back mate. The crowd found out about the sacking of Jol before he did, he certainly didn't deserve that. Daniel you area first class gentleman. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
SRV-Levy had no plan when he sacked Harry either.
David Topping
The newly emerged anti-BAE brigade (formerly known as the pro-AVB brigade) can go take a wan-k. Look at the man's twitter feed from August to now. He has been supporting Tottenham all the way despite being outcast by King Geofrey-AVB. Yes. I know you're hurting as all Spurs fans are. But dont pull an AVB on a player who has done more for Tottenham off the field then any other. I ask you - Name one player that has got axed and outcast and loaned away - but yet still shows support week in week out and actually cares about the team. His "Home" as he says. By your rational thinking then absolutely every single Spurs fan that boo-ed the team on any occasion this season should never be allowed in WHL again. Because they were disrespecting the club and the players and every Spurs fan that didnt boo should want to punch them in the face. No. You are being pathetic if you cannot see the way BAE has supported Tottenham even though the club discarded him. - not the club - the way AVB discarded him. Those fans that boo-ed and wanted change are no different to BAE. But yet, you're deflecting the embarrassment AVB caused against a player who is probably one of the most loyal players we have ever seen in a Spurs shirt. Before you twist your knickers read his twitter posts from august to now and tell me if he has been disrespecting Spurs or supporting Spurs. https://twitter.com/AssouEkotto
mellowchaos
I will tell you how depressed I am. I wouldn't mind if Levy called Harry back right now! Think of what he could accomplish with the start we have!
jvd
@chrishove123 - Have a look at Sandro or Benny's twitter feeds. They are pretty tight buddies. As he is with most of the squad. Again. Did you boo AVBs tactics because you BOOED Tottenham then. You should be banned for life for disrespecting the club. Boo.
mellowchaos
chrishove123, thanks for your respectful tone in answering me. I'll try to reciprocate and perhaps we can set a general tone for how commenters can have different perspectives while respecting one another.

As to how Sandro and Bennie would act towards one another if Bennie came into the changing room: I'd hope that Sandro would give Bennie a chance to explain to him what he was thinking when he made the post and Sandro would accept it. I don't think Bennie meant to diss the club. He's never come across that way to me and I don't think he meant to do so. He surely does think that he was mistreated by AVB, though, and he surely was pleased to see evidence that AVC cocked up in ousting Bennie. Did the photo backfire? Surely it did, but I think Bennie was anti-AVB, and not disrespectful of the club.

As to the notion that respecting the club requires respecting the manager: 80% of the commenters on VS should be banned from this site for life if that's the case. We've all diss a manager here or there and we all love the club (apart from the occassional trolls who come here, God bless them).

Sandro seems a level headed fellow most of the time, and good natured. They say he is the good humour of the dressing room. My hope would be that he and Bennie would talk and sort it out and Bennie would be welcomed back to the club.

As I wrote earlier, Bennie built up a lot of credit with me for his overall behavior while in N17, and showed a super lot of class in the way he showed up after the riot. That means a lot more to me than his lingering distaste for AVB after being caste out.

I'd hope Sandro and the others would welcome back Bennie after some open and honest discussion.

Let's not forget, BAE is still one of ours, and we sure could use his talents on the pitch these day. Unlike Modric and Berbs, he's never insulted our badge. Only our manager. And who amongst hasn't dissed one or more of our managers.

Is there one amongst us who thinks that respecting our club requires that we show fealty to DL or ENIC?

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Who's baby is in the car, come to that what car and who's the driver? Just mentioning what the reporter said outside the ground, he never used a signer, it was all his own words. Before we go down the Hoddle return section, take a look back when Hoddle was last manager, Sherwood moved out, they have a history together look it up. Anyway I don't care who takes over, as long as we start to look like a team, who can compete with the top sides in the league, our results to date against them is not to clever, draws with everton away, chelsea and man u @ home, the rest have beaten us, so we may have more points then last season to date, but we are getting beaten 1-0 or 6-0, we still end up with nil points, same result 1-0 (pen) or 6-0 to us, you only get 3pts. It's about winning games any games not losing every other week. The politics off the field, is not something we can do anything about, we can only watch what happens on the field of play, hoping we put on a show, win the game and move onto the next one, not get stuffed like a christmas turkey with no fight shown. This is a great club, one i have supported for years many years, I have seen this all before, the year we won the cup in 1991, we was well in the shi7 and nearly finished, but we rise again, we will do so again, but not with AVB, someone else, if his no good levy will sack him and it starts again, bloody shame I know, but i am not giving up on them, If your going to the lane wednesday, remember to give them everything in your support, the team we are playing hate us in every sense of the word, but not as much as i hate them, lots of history between wet spam and spurs, pikey shi7 bags.
spu 4 life
SilwalYid- sure a match or two with sherwood calling the selection is expected...and fingers crossed we do well....will that change the fact he doesn't have the experience needed for the job, no.
shedboy2
Just saw a photo in the Guardian of AVB on Sunday. LOL. He looked like a villain in a James Bond or Indiana Jones movie with the shaved dome, the glasses, coat, and leather gloves. Hope this comment isn't construed as showing disrespect for THFC, but DL surely looks the villain. Not a good image for our club unless you like Nazi movies and hate Indiana Jones. If you were an unemployed manager, would you want to come to work for this man? I'd rather find a boss who has a hook in place of a hand, given this photo.

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/dec/16/daniel-levy-spurs-andre-villas-boas-reputation

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BAE's play last season was terrible. He has looked an ok LB at the Championshp evel. Nothing special there. His game has dropped (I have always given him support, he is just no longer up to the task) Adebayor's play at the club last year, when he could be bothered to show up, was terrible. Neither has done anything to merit their inclusion in this squad. BAE is out of contract in June and there is no way in Hades I would be extending him. Adebayor can sit until the summer when his payments from City cease and he looks to find someone else dumb enough to stump 100k/week plus for his lack of servces. Transfer window opens in a few weeks. Line up the replacements going forward and get them sorted early. Rose should be back which should alleviate our LB issue. Get in another CB as well because Dawson is at the end of the line. Love his heart but his game has dropped considerably this season. We need much better. Seems we were 500k away from getting Moutinho. If true, it is as stupid as not signing Suarez when we could have. Owners, count your beans You do it well. get the stadium done, sooner, rather than later, ut please stay away from any footballing decisions. OYS
peterballb
Spu 4 life - this cant beat the top teams thing is what I call "never happy" syndrome. Ok so we havent quite this season yet (though we dominated the everton, man u games and could easily have beaten chelsea on another day) but are we for getting beating city, arsenal, liverpool and man u (at their place) last season under AVB? Its football NO manager can guarantee every result. Anyway as you say lets move on. Im going tomoro too - revenge on west ham and one step from wembley will cheer me up!
StillRickyVilla
Levy seems to know the price of everything but the value of nothing....he's wealthy so he gets to play with Spurs and create wealth using property but one thing money can't buy is class and the guy doesn't seem to have any....
shedboy2
Whatever the reasons, it is clear that the situation at Spurs had deteriorated so badly that AVB, Baldini, Levy, Sherwood, the players and the fans were all pulling in different directions. That is almost impossible to rectify without some significant blood-letting. AVB (again rightly or wrongly) has been sacrificed and now we have to hope that we will see some stability and calm return to the club which will hopefully translate into improved on the pitch performances and results. The situation is, however, far from fixed. If Levy and Baldini are as Machiavellian as they are being depicted then the problems will continue. The first and most pressing of which will be trying to bring a new quality manager to a club apparently run by private and conflicting little mafias. That will not be easy at all. The more I read and hear the more it seems that AVB wanted out as much as Levy and Co wanted him out. That is the reason that we have no replacement lined up and ready. We are at yet another crossroads with our club in a fair bit of flux. What top level manager will want to walk into that and be strong enough to break the cliques and create a new unity at our beloved club? There aren't many around that can do it. I was no great fan of AVB and am not sad to see him go as he wasn't going to make it work with us but I do sincerely hope (but I doubt) that Levy, Baldini et al are having a stern word with themselves.
SpuriousLife
Report Abuse… With all due respect to Benny and yourself, Levy does not pay my wages. I for one have always liked BAE as a player and for all the reasons you and others are pointing out. It still doesn't make his response right. It was foolhardy and I bet he regrets it now.
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Apologies I've done a bit of a WorldPeace!
SpuriousLife
I Benny wants to come back and play and our new manager wants him so be it, do your job and play to the best of your ability, same goes for Ade, score goals and your be a hero, if your not interested in playing for our side then move on, it's that simple, pick up the phone benny and ring the club. How AVB let a player of his class leave is beyond me, but that's not down to me, be interesting to see if Ade remains injured seeing as AVB is down the high road.
spu 4 life
SpuriousLife- doing a WP..;)...WP- I'm sure you just write as you're thinking, you need to stop talking to the voices though...;)
shedboy2
Spu 4 Life - I wouldn't be surprised to see a few of the currently 'injured' players return a bit quicker than expected now that AVB has gone. I really don't think they liked him that much. Despite the public pronouncements of support they didn't put in enough of a shift for him on the pitch recently.
SpuriousLife
A new manager should come in a give them a clean slate..get on and prove you deserve to wear the shirt...
shedboy2
The more this progresses the more it looks like no one (fan's, levy, AVB, players, etc) wanted him to be sacked but there was really no other option... 5-0 and 6-0 score lines in the space of two weeks plus a 3-0 hammering really did make his position untenable. What it does mean though is we don't have a proper plan B and no manager lined up. Sherwood is a gamble but not as much as sticking with AVB IMO. Whether Tim will changes much will be interesting to see, the biggest problem is it isn't like AVB has dropped someone playing well, everyone is playing relatively bad so you can only hope the problem has been the whole team set-up which means complete tactical changes and therefore a big risk. On the other hand if Sherwood didn't see anything wrong with AVB's tactics we could be in more trouble as generally the players seemed motivated but just not good enough, doing the same thing and expecting different results is the definition of madness. I hope Sherwood did see problems and will change things drastically, drop chadli, play Lemela up front, and most importantly keep the same winning team week in week out to build a bit of consistency and allow the new players to get to know each other, on Sunday Lennon, Soldado and Chadli hadn't played next to each other in our last three games, either Defoe with Lennon (RW), or Soldado with Townsend (LW) should have started, it's like playing Sunday league with ringers and expecting to beat Liverpool...
T.H.F.Chris
StillRickyVilla give it all you got tomorrow night and get the fans around you up for it, your the man, your the voice of VS all of those on here who can't make it. Mate I hope we beat that lot, my hate for them is more then you can imagine. Have a great night and like you a win is a win, onwards and upwards.
spu 4 life
Spurious I agree with u that AVB was starting to think "I just dont need this". It was clear he was *****ed off at the lack of supprt from the board and it sounds like a mess behind the scenes with baldini, levy and Redknapps man sherwood. There is fundamentally something not right at spurs. Good luck to the next mug who takes on the Sugar/ENIC mafia. I just cant see us being truly successful until we get a takeover. And where is this bloody stadium!!?
StillRickyVilla
StillRickyVilla…. Don't loose heart. Still a long way to go this season and you never know……. I'll also be there tomorrow, cheering along with the rest. Revenge will be sweet. COYS!
MAN ON!
SRV - It really does look like there is a lot of infighting behind the scenes. That doesn't help the club and certainly won't help us find the quality manager we need. As for the stadium, well, we've been waiting 12 years already. What's another 10 years (if we're lucky) between friends?
SpuriousLife
I don't think anyone need worry about the atmosphere tomorrow...it'll be electric. That won't be an endorsement of Sherwood or the board though....let's hope we don't have people jumping to wrong conclusions by Thursday morning....SRV - agree, it's a complete Horlicks...
shedboy2
Absoutely spu4life, this is a film we have all seen before and, since we are not owners, and one f the owners is the Chief PooBaa, there is not much we can do but support the team regardless. I don't believe that AVB ever got anything more than grudging support from the fans. I was at WHL for the first two home games last season and the reception and aura around the stands was, at best a tepid, let's see what you can do before we invest in this. The press were always on him. He seemed nothing but forthright and generous in his responses to questions. I think he is a very godmanager and he has grown quite a bit since he first came in to the PL. I suspect he will return to Porto, win more and then retire in a few years as he always intended. Coaches are hired to be fired. Sherwood is apparently not an easy man to get along with. AVB did not see eye to eye with him. Hoddle has had his issues with him in the past. He is Levy's man. Does anyone see a problem in all of this. I hope all goes well and will be supporting the lads regardless. If this starts to go sideways though, there is only one person who can be blamed and, in my experience, owners rarely fire thmselves. I don't like the optics or the timing of any of this. COYS
peterballb
Hi Report Abuse, I have huge respect for him as a person, as you say especially after the riots. But for me his play just isn't good enough, when he was playing for us last his positional and tactical brain was even more out of kilter than ever. Maybe that had something to do with his and AVB, BUT as a highly paid professional who earns more in a year than most of us in a decade do, he should be man and professional enough to turn round to himself ands say no matter what I am going to show him what I can do and play to the top of my game, not sulk like a little spoilt brat. (No wonder he and Ade get on so well LOL) If he had shown a true professional attitude toward the game and us, then OK I'd feel happy with him as a person, not playing here. As I see it he crossed one line too many and as such I have lost all respect for him as a player and a fair bit as a person as well. Shame cz he did come across as a really nice guy.
chrishove123
if it is true that we lost out on moutinho haggling over 500,000 in a deal worth around 30 million then that is truly ridiculous. AVB should have been backed with at least one of the players he specifically wanted. I am fully behind the need to spend within our means and while we cannot pay way over the odds when we do splash out 30 million on lamela AVB has every right to wonder why we cannot bring in at least some of his targets. I still think we have invested well in young talent, but it is simply madness to expect changes on that scale and players that are far from the finished products to suddenly be title contenders. There seems to be too much nonsense going on behind the scenes for us to really strive forward. If sherwood is installed for the longer term then I will really start to lose faith
Guernman
Man on see you there tomoro. Just hope we stuff them in normal time so I can catch the last train home!
StillRickyVilla
chrishove123- are you the only one who has a problem with benny? I don't think the other players will even bat an eyelid..the ones that like him still will. They all will know he was having a lol at AVB not Spurs....
shedboy2
Yeah, don't think I can handle more penalties.
MAN ON!
AVB - joins the list of managers hamstrung and then scapegoated...
shedboy2
when i read where edgar davids was saying he does not like watching spurs under avb and the 5-o result i knew avb was out.....give sherwood a chance,what he does with the youth can be transferred to the team
rovinella62spurs
Have any of the bring back BAE crowd watched him this season? I have. Nothing special in the Championship. He was poor last season. No longer up to it. Contract up in 6 months. Bring him back to do what, exactly? Take up a spot on the roster until we can buy someone later. News flash, there is a window opening in 15 days. But LB competition for Rose, who has played well when he has been in there. Better than Naughton, Fryers and yes, even better than Vertonghen. When he went down, he had created as many chances as Walker, delivered as many crosses and made fewer defensive mistakes. So, if Walker is good enough, Rose is too. Buy a LB to compete with Rose. BAE can sign a pre-deal in January to leave and stay at QPR to help them up. We need to move on from certain players. BAE is one of them. COYS
peterballb
No timeframe on Sherwood appointment. If he proves capable will get the job permanently and so he should. Saves Levy another tedious search as well
cynicspur
peterballb- agree benny is/was on the slide...I would prefer another LB but I wouldn't rule out Benny competing with Rose as the cheap option. As you know I don't agree with you on Rose and walker...walker is a far better FB....
shedboy2
An interesting article on our "illustrious" chairman. ........................ http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/dec/16/daniel-levy-spurs-andre-villas-boas-reputation
chrishove123
"Levy seems to know the price of everything but the value of nothing," wrote shedboy2. For me, so far this is the best line of the day.

MAN ON! wrote that Bennie's tweet was foolish and he bets Bennie regrets it now. Can't agree more.

If Sherwood or someone else can get Adebayor to play up to his abilities, have him play. Adebayor surely should be motivated, given that he'd like a contract after the season that rivals what he's getting not. But I'd just as soon he isn't with THFC beyond this season. Many of us thought this would turn sour when he was first brought in on loan a couple of years ago. It has, even if he seems to get along with a new manager for a while.

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Whatever any one of us thinks about BAE, I wouldn't be surprised to see him back very soon.
MAN ON!
Remember Gennaro Gattuso and his dust up with Joe Jordan three or so years ago in the CL when Harry was our manager? His house was just raided in a match-fixing investigation. lol. Maybe we can bring to two of them together as coaches with a new manager. lmfao.
Report Abuse
shedboy2, there is no denying that Walker, when on the form he has been over the past 2 starts is one of the best in the world. Rose is not, IMO, capable of that. That said, those berating Rose prior to his injury completely ignored that he was matching Walker, cross for cross, chance created for chance created going forward, and was superiour coming back. Rose has everything in him to be a very good LB. He will not likely be great, but then very few are. He is a far better option to BAE and I would not bring him back. Doing so suggests that it is ok for players to mock the coach. I would never have supported a player doing so with Harry at the helm. To moan (fairly or not) that you are not playing is fair. To mock the "team" results as a dig at the manager is unacceptable in all quarters. If people don't see the difference, then we are all lost. Players do not run the team. AS for Adebayor's 2 day later excuse that the photo was taken before the game and that that's how he always poses, well that just smacks of another one of his lies to try and polish a very tarnihed image. If I had had such a photo appear and be so misjudged, I would have stated it immediately. No such thing was done. They knew what they were doing. BAE is on twitter all the time. There is no excuse. Took him 2 days to come up with an excuse. Not much creativity thre. COYS
peterballb
Camps firmly established, now now hows it going today?
tophobunty1882
The vast majority on here have now come around to the realisation that whatever coach will be employed in the future to take over from AVB will face a very hard task, verging on impossible because of the control freak Levy and the inner politics within the THFC board, technical director etc, not to forget the zero net transfer policy Lewis inflicted upon AVB throughout his short time at the club which spanned 2 summer and 1 winter window. A policy that started as soon as Redknapp qualified us for the CL? We all now know how very hard it is for a Spurs coach to work under the ENIC board. Great to hear the majority voicing their disapproval at the disgraceful way AVB was treated, and great to see people are finally pointing the finger of blame at exactly where it should be pointed, which is at Levy and Lewis not AVB, Harry, Ramos, Jol etc etc anymore. But the only way we can change things is not through diplomacy, it is through fan power, through a THFC revolution! Two songs for you. "We want our Tottenham back", or the two shortened versions. "LEVY OUT", "ENIC OUT"!!! Still not ready to write or voice it yet? Take your time my yids, take your time... ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
I have not seen Bennie play since he went out on loan, so I don't know how well he can play now, but I'd have him back if he can help fill the problem at LB. Of course, if as peterballb and some others are say, he hasn't got the game any more, let's merely wish him well. When one's time is up, it's up. but I still like him as a man.
Report Abuse
Funny how the players have all been conspicuous by their silence. One would thinkthere'd be all sorts of quotes to the politically correct effect of "We wish him well and we have to shoulder the blame for this. We really must get our heads down and get the job done as there's lots to play for". Nothing. Not a word. All been muzzled? Seems very odd. COYS
peterballb
I suspect a media ban on players but then again why say anything? Sorry to see him go if you're not? think you were to blame if you weren't? Even if you liked the guy why pin your colours to his flag when a guy who may have a differing opinion is about to take charge? best keep quiet....
shedboy2
peterballb, Good point! My opinion on the silence is that the players were called to a group meeting under the instruction of Levy and were told by Sherwood or Baldini, or both, to keep it buttoned or face the consequences! They were warned about being fined or benched or banished to play with the youth team if they speak out. It's world cup year coming up real soon, and the players need game time big time! Better keep quite or your get sent to QPR! No freedom of speech under the THFC dictator Daniel Levy...
Pele10
you are a tryer Peter. i am really going to enjoy watching you try to bend the world out of shape to get this looking like you got it right......you know the score, well trained mate.
tophobunty1882
(Obviously), I wish most players kept their traps shut most of the time. The cliche being; do you're talking on the pitch guys. (obviously).
MAN ON!
*your talking* (obviously)….
MAN ON!
I think we can safely assume there is an awful lot going on in the background and the more I look at it, this is all a long way from going to plan. This was all unexpected and I would not be surprised if AVB got his payout and is free to sign on the dotted line wherever he wants outside the PL. It is obvious that there is something foul permeating from THFC. I think we can all agree that the dismissals of the past 4 managers left a lot to be desired. We are not living up to the class oranization that I expect of THFC. That is the real shame in all of this. There is a great squad here, best there has been that I can recall. My expectation remains Europe by table position, continue on in all of the cups and give the title a right proper go next season. Anything less is not acceptable. Too much talent. Whomever coaches this collection can have no lower expectations on him than AVB did. COYS
peterballb
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT53EN71MP8 Sherwood ahead of westham clash
SilwalYid
Am I the only one who wished AVB was still here till at least the end of the season? COYS!
James1
Just watched Tim Sherwood's first interview as interim coach on http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/interim-tottenham-manager-tim-sherwood-gives-his-1st-interview-in-preview-of-the-west-ham-game/? And I must admit, just from what he has said and the way he comes across I can tell that we are going to see a completely different Spurs team tomorrow. He speaks with authority, simplicity and a tiny bit of arrogance that will definitely filter onto the players. COYS!
Lady Tottingham
James1….. No……. May be we can get AVB in as caretaker now he's out of a job.
MAN ON!
Stick Tim and Sir Les on the bench and we're good to go.
MAN ON!
Hahaha MAN ON! brilliant response mate ;) COYS!
James1
We all take joys in different thngs. Some are all about spice. Some all about substance. Whatever. My positions are not baseless and are always explained (sometimes ad nauseum). Agree or not, I care not. That's the point of a "forum of opinion". I believe mine are fairly consistent, so I have no issues. Call me out all you want. Seems a lot of what is coming out now suggests there was a fair amount of meddling. AVB was going to do it his way or not at all. Harry was the sme in that regard. You have to respect that in any coach. Hired to be fired. They all know the score. COYS
peterballb
Shedboy, No I'm not the only one. Peterballb has the same problem with benny. HHE JUST IS NOT GOOD ENOUGH. Leave him in the championship, that is where his level is. He just got steadily worse and worse over his time here and he will bring us more trouble as a full back that us relying on Rose and then get someone else in during the new window, it's not far now so why bring back Someone who just does not cut it any more.
chrishove123
and he is 2-0 in the prem Pete, tells its own story I think. I wanted him to succeed like everyone did I am sure, I just never really saw genuine signs he was really up to the job. The result, an awful mess. Still he has earned more than most posters on here in the last 18 months for doing a very average job.
tophobunty1882
Peter as a side note i do genuinely admire you on your conviction to stick with what you believe, Equally I struggle to understand how you can spend so much time to seemingly prove right and wrong on points when so often there is neither. I for one think this place is better for you being here though by far.
tophobunty1882
chrishove123- I agree on the form basis..but the photo I don't think is that big a deal.
shedboy2
I suppose that is all true, if winning percentage doesn't matter. The team, as it stands, is a far better collection of players than when he arrived. Whomever takes over, has it all on a platter. Just as DiMatteo did. On a platter. Rested veterans chomping to prove the other bloke was wrong. Won them 2 cups, though their PL form was no better. What do I know? People on here want a 39% manager to replace a 59% manager because he knows how to do things "our way. Let's just make sure we stay well clar of a title challenge. That is not our way. If you and ohers don't see the inherent dangers that are presenting themselves and how close we have pushed ourselves to the precipice, then, no worries. I will not gloat, if we fail. I will be as dejected as anyone. And it remains Peter. COYS
peterballb
James1, I had become extraordinarily ambivalent about AVB staying. On the one hand THFC has fired too many managers in too short a time for my liking (although I did think Harry had to go after the FA and legal disasters and distractions). But the 3-0, 6-0, and 5-0 blunders were piling up fast and furious and things seems to be disintegrating. Sometimes the plug has to be pulled. And I'm someone who, when a year ago August many were expressing unhappiness about the man, was expressing cautious optimism. There were good arguments in favor of keeping him (high point total last season cannot be ignored), but the disastrous defeats--not merely defeats, but disastrous results--surely were piling up far too quickly.
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Topho - "average job" "left in a mess". I know im repeatin myself but AVB won more of his matches than any other spurs manager. We are still very much in the hunt for CL (in fact are above the current champions with them with a settled squad - if AVB has left it in a mess what kind of job is moyes doing). We have great chances in ALL competitions and before last weekend had virtually the best defence in the league. Two freak easily explainable results caught the medias imagination and BOOM Avb is a clown! It is clear to me all is not right at WHL. Thats 9 managers who either couldnt make it work or simply couldnt work with Levy. I wish the new man well. To achieve 72 points or above AND compete on all 4 fronts AND play the spurs way (whatever that is) AND intergrate a squad full of strangers new to these shores AND somehow manage the toxic relations with Levy, Baldini and the rest. Good luck. As I say I wish the new man well - lets hope it was all down to AVBs incompetence and we surge into the CL and win a trophy under the new man.
StillRickyVilla
Wow someone sounds a very angry man, me Im happy and excited about the future of Spurs!!! may get some good results with some good football....may even make my first visit to the lane tomorrow this season!!!
Ossie
Adrian durham 5talking sense for once-saying Rafael benitez is our man
ghulamville
We as a club and Daniel Levy as a "chairman" just get dafter. After the debacle of first appointing Villas Boaz, then having to dismiss him after a season and a bit of lamentable football, with the performances of Gareth Bale the only saving grace. we are now apparently putting first team affairs in the hands of Tim Sherwood, a bloke with no managerial or coaching experience at senior level, and Les Ferdinand and Ramsey, even less experienced than Sherwood. we now expect a squad almost exclusively consisting of international footballers to be coached by and advised and instructed by a rookie, an even less experienced option than AVB.
Frank
well said Frank- and just what has Les Ferdinand done with our strikers over the last 3-4years.
David Topping
frank-this is what I don't get,if someone was lined up as a permanent than by all means get rid,but to appoint within for the remainder of the season makes no sense to me.irreconciable differences?
ghulamville
SRV, AVB has won 50% of his PL games this season, all against the crap at the bottom of the league. he was unable to compete properly with any of the coaches of the current top 8 teams, we have played 7 games against them for 2 points and 3 goals for, and 16 against. All this was achieved both this season and last playing the worst football seen at Spurs in living memory. The bloke should never have got the job, and deserved to lose it, just as he did at Chelsea, he is a one season wonder from his Porto stint and has lived off it ever since. he was, and is the wrong man for Spurs, and I'm afraid Tim Sherwood isn't the answer either.
Frank
Ghulamville, all levy yes men. Maybe that is where our problem lies. No one dare say no to the levy otherwise they may be thrown through the WHL revolving door.
chrishove123
and I have never liked tim Sherwood,their is something unlikeable about him I cant put my finger on
ghulamville
Think I'll dedicate this song to our esteemed chairman. Yes I know it is spelled differently, but it's said the same. ................................ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvhc0WvTJfE
chrishove123
but having said that whoever is appointed no doubt I will be fully in support.COYS
ghulamville
chrishove123….. Led Zep is my favourite band…. Dazed and confused might be as appropriate.
MAN ON!
Yes and so will I even if I have to bite my tongue about it. Whoever comes in will NEED the support.
chrishove123
MAN ON! HA HA never thought about that one. Very true.
chrishove123
Frank again im repeating myself but do u not remember us beating man city, arsenal, liverpool and our first win at Old Trafford in the PL last season under AVB? And this season we dominated and should have won the everton and man u games. The chelsea game the 2nd goal would have killed them off. Its just all nonsense. Last season some were moaning that it was the smaller teams we couldnt beat. "Never happy" syndrome strikes again. Doesnt matter though now. We just have to go with the new man. Lets raise the roof tomorrow.
StillRickyVilla
david topping/hopspur53 Spot on again Frank, Levy had no plan when he sacked Harry and he has no plan now.
topspur53
This is a mess there is no denying, and seemingly no-one comes out untainted. But at the heart of it was a coach not fit for purpose who turned my pleasure at watching Spurs into dismay and then despair. All the claptrap from people NITK, never having met him or the players, about gelling and team spirit and backing when the evidence on the pitch was plain to see. Timing? Bad for sure - should have been weeks ago.
Love totty
Ghulamville If he gets Spurs winning again in style I think he will grow on you ;) COYS!
James1
Frank, I don't get your mocking AVB? You may well be 100% correct that he was not up to the task. But why mock the block? We will never know for two reasons exactly how good or bad he could have been for Spurs. Firstly he was not given the time. He deserved to the end of this season in my opinion, and I say that not as a big AVB fan. He deserved to be judged in the summer! The second reason I am not going to judge him, is because it is slowly starting to come out, that he was not getting the players he wanted, because Levy was doing the choosing. It's starting to look like Lamela was a Baldini buy, Siggi we know was a Levy buy, and was Lloris an AVB buy? Why did he not play him for a large number of PL games last season? Santini resigned after finding a certain Michael Carrick on the training pitch. Apparently he did not even know who he was. Same goes for Bentley who was Levy's first big gift to Ramos! Caulker? Did AVB really want to sale a player he repeatedly picked ahead of Dawson last season? Was AVB saying to Levy, you want your Dawson, there you go have him, Ill make him your team captain too! And Bale, did AVB want to sale Bale? No way! AVB said shortly after joining the club how he was very much looking forward to working with VDV, I watched the interview and he gave VDV the number 10 shirt! Then Levy sold him at the last minute of the window so AVB had no time to find a replacement. The truth is we don't know exactly what is going on in the background, but what we do all now know is that it was and is the usual dark Danny Boy Levy business! As I said Frank, you might be 100% correct about AVB, but I am not going to right the block off on what he did at THFC whilst working with that total control freak Levy. One season wonder or not, he still has a Europa League winners medal and a Portuguese League title medal. He knows what it feels like to win, something sadly we have not experienced since 1991 when we won our last REAL trophy... ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
I don't think its right us knocking avb,like it or not he had the best win ratio as spurs manager
ghulamville
Still depressed after the Liverpool game and the sacking. Reported in the Independent today that AVB only wanted Soldado, the rest were Baldini’s choices particularly Lamella. It also mentioned that Baldini and Levy complained about the style of football and wanted Adebayor back in the team. AVB stood his ground and refused. This happened after the City game. I think AVB was pi$$ed off after that. We were then too open in the Fulham game and were lucky to win, Sunderland was better but they were poor, Liverpool was a shambles so from that respect he probably had to go. It looks to me as if the main culprit might be Baldini. As for a future manager no to past their sell by dates, Capello, Hiddink, Hoddle etc.Get in Laudrup, De Boer, Pochettino, or Ralf Rangnick or Malkie Mackay as outsiders but I suspect working with Levy might not be attractive to some.
matt hoten
Report Abuse; I remember General Custer, I did'nt know he had a dust up with Joe Jordan, I thought it was just the indians?
spu 4 life
The players had a relaxing time after training this morning and had a number of games of draughts/checkers to some, now that the disc's are back on the board and not stuck on some football pitch drawing.
spu 4 life
SRV sorry mate i just disagree, without the Bale freak show last season AVB would have been sacked at the end of last season. And its not about two freak results and media clamour this season, its about a series of very poor performances and just about everybody in football agreeing Spurs are not doing as well as everybody imagined they would have done. Last season was poor week in week out, this season worse, sacked at Chelsea and not up to it at Spurs, good sqaud last season better one this season, still the same outcome, underperforming.
tophobunty1882
It seems to me that there is one basic problem that the posters on this forum do not seem to have grasped. It is our (i.e. DL and us) desire to win the PL or, at least get CL. There is general agreement that we need an experienced manager who knows the EPL. Well who fits the bill? The only managers who can claim to know the EPL and be successful in it are Wenger, Ferguson, Jose and I suppose, Mancini. Moyes knows the PL but has not been successful. Of those, two have managed clubs where money was of no consequence and world class players could be bought (and paid ridiculous salaries) out of the resources of their Russian or Middle Eastern owners. Only Manchester United and Arsenal have been successful in recent times using funds generated by their own efforts and business model. Of those, it has to be said that Man Utd have, for most of living memory, been by far the richest "normally financed " club as a result of earlier successes over many years and their good fortune in being located in a particular position where stadium enlargement was possible to a far greater degree than at other clubs, particularly after the Taylor Report following on from the Hillsborough disaster. This means that the only manager to win a title at a "normal" club has been Wenger and he hasn't done it for how long? THFC are just about the only club which has come near to breaking into this elite group (Everton and 'pool as other possible contenders but not so much in recent years). The simple fact is that we have had three managers who have taken us as near as reasonably possible to our aims. Levy is to be congratulated on appointing them. Sadly, he has been unable to smell the coffee and has sacked each one of them before giving them the chance to build further, acting like a spoilt child who didn't get what he wanted for Christmas. Furthermore, two of those managers achieved what they did with crowd-pleasing football (and us lot take some pleasing!). So what is the answer? We have a choice. We can accept being in the top half dozen or so clubs in arguably the best league in the world, trying to provide great entertainment for loyal fans who appreciate attractive, if not necessarily winning football. We can sell out to a middle Eastern sheik who will make us into another Man City or we can find, hopefully, another Jol or Harry, who will play our kind of football and be given time to build a team that, with a fair wind and some luck might just be able to overcome the advantages that some other clubs have and enter the top flight again. I happen to prefer the third option, you may prefer one of the others. Whatever our individual preference one thing is certain. We are not going to see a short term achievement to our goals and it is pointless to expect otherwise.
Dennis Silverton
Pele, Levy might not be up to it by why mock the bloke?
tophobunty1882
Matt if AVB walked in your house tonight and shot your mrs in the back of the head you would blame Baldini. Funny old world. Kubrick dies making his last film. Eyes Wide Shut.
tophobunty1882
Topho we will never agree. And we will never know. Unless of course the new man comes in and starts winning significantly more games than AVB. But given AVB was winning more games than any Spurs manager in 116 years its going to be tough. My feeling is its "never happy" syndrome and there will be the same moans and groans from the usual suspects with the added probability that we wont be winning as many games. Still - happy to let it all go and support the new man. What else can we do!?
StillRickyVilla
SRV I agree. We wont know if AVB would have been a long term success unless he makes it elsewhere. Dennis good post but I want to see Spurs win and if it needs a highly tactical approach to succeed against the rich clubs so be it. AVB never employed hump it football and maybe because I see quite a few away games I was more than reasonably satisfied with his approach.
matt hoten
I would also add finally on this that the downside risk is far more significant than the upside. The new man is taking on a squad of strangers and potential. The same kind of dynamic that got QPR relegated. How likely is it that given the circumstances a new man can improve on an already record breaking winning record? Still - as I said lwts move on.
StillRickyVilla
SRV, that is very fair, we wont and we wont. I am sure we will agree on many other things. And yes what choice do we have.
tophobunty1882
James ... "Am I the only one who wished AVB was still here till at least the end of the season?" .... No, you're not, James! ;-)
Geofspurs
BAE .... Not sure what he is supposed to have done. if he did it or why he did it ... but I do know that I have said, and done, many things I have regretted in my life, just like everyone else. I like the guy, both as a person and as a player (again, he makes mistakes on the pitch ... who doesn't?). Get him back! imo
Geofspurs
If we needed a "caretaker" for the rest of the season, there are coaches who have at least coached adult first team players, not kids, and have some experience, currently unemployed. we could have had, or tried to get, Zola, Rijkaard, Heynkes or yes even Hoddle, in till the end of the season, and then re-grouped. I can't accept or understand, that for the first time in a long time, Levy has sacked a coach without having somebody in the starting blocks to come in, a la Ramos, or Redknapp etc. especially if, as is now strongly rumored, the decision was made at least 10 days ago. If true it is yet another massive error of judgement by our esteemed chairman, and with his encyclopedic knowledge of the game LOL, he should know better.
Frank
Regarding whether or not the players brought in were Villas Boaz's or Baldini's. All across the best clubs in Europe, in Spain, Italy, Germany, where they operate the DOF system, better coaches than Villas Boaz will ever be, operate within a system whereby the coach identifies the areas of the team where he requires improvements, and the DOF, or Technical Director or whatever they are called, sources, negotiates for, and signs the players to suit these needs, and deliver them to the coach, that's how it works. The DOF or Tech Director out ranks the coach in these clubs, and indeed if the coach fails, and is dismissed, he generally recruits a replacement. Baldini will never assume a true DOF role, at Spurs because always in the background is that football genius "the man who would be king, sorry, manager, coach, coach driver etc.etc.) that football legend one Daniel Levy with his degree in Land Economy, aptly qualified to dictate the finer points in the running of a PL football club, and make all those key decisions, to take us into the top 4, and beyond. Paramount of course is his undoubted talent in selecting and recruiting managers/coaches, so much so that he about to embark on his 8th attempt to succeed.
Frank
 

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Spurs 3 - 2 Southampton
Spurs 0 - 1 Arsenal
Chelsea 4 - 0 Spurs

League Table (view table)

Team P W D L GD Pts
3. Man City 33 22 5 6 54 71
4. Arsenal 34 20 7 7 18 67
5. Everton 34 19 9 6 21 66
6. Spurs 34 18 6 10 0 60
7. Man Utd 33 17 6 10 18 57
8. Southampton 34 13 9 12 5 48
9. Newcastle 34 14 4 16 -14 46

Breaking League News

Ups and Downs for Sam!
» Chelsea : 19/04/2014 12:52:00
No Longer Fake!
» Chelsea : 19/04/2014 12:32:00
Cole Out in the Cold?
» Chelsea : 19/04/2014 12:16:00
Hazard Remains a Doubt for Atletico Trip
» Chelsea : 19/04/2014 12:10:00
Spurs v Fulham - Team Sheets
» Fulham : 19/04/2014 12:00:00
A Minutes Applause for Dylan
» West Ham : 19/04/2014 11:50:00
Hammers - It Refuses to Go Away
» West Ham : 19/04/2014 11:46:00

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WBA win... 9%
Draw. 38%
Spurs Win! 53%