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Southampton vs Tottenham Hotspur

Let`s talk football! After all results on the pitch is what we need right now to prevent us starting a momentum downwards when we want the team to battle back.

We were mugged again by West Ham on Wednesday night just after the subs came on and changed the shape of the team that is when we went behind! Somehow we need to find someone who can be more creative in midfield, as once again we are still very predictable with regard to that final ball. We are all feeling a bit shell shocked after the last few days and we now need Tim Sherwood to get a grip of the situation.

We have four games between 22 December and the 1st January and it is now time to dig deep as some of our key players, especially in defence, are missing. We can still rescue our League form as we have a half decent chance of winning our next 3 games before we meet Manure at OT on the 1st January.

Let`s start with our back four. Southampton are a tidy and organised unit and our back line has to be organised. As Verts is going to be out until January I assume we only have Dawson and Chiriches for CB, as Kaboul has no return date, with Walker and Rose either side, it is just a question of how long Rose can play.

So how does Tim set us up? 4- 4- 2 against the Spam looked good for a while but we lost something in midfield and we will need a playmaker in the middle of the park on Sunday. Sandro is doubtful and Paulinho has two more matches to go until his red card ban is finished.

If Eriksen could find the form he showed at the start of the season then perhaps he could play in the pocket whilst Dembele and Capoue sit in front of the back four to add some much needed over. Lennon on the right and Lamela on the left might add some width but I expect Chadli will once again get the nod or probably Siggs for the left.

Adebayor and Soldado? Better than Adebayor and Defoe? There is no doubt that Adebayor looked rusty but he looked useful as well and he might just add something to our attack but I can`t see Sherwood going for anything other than a 4 -5 -1 away from home until he and the coaching squad can work out what is the right blend for the team. In reality we have not had a full squad since Danny Rose went off crocked in September. We have subsequently been punished for not having a decent left back and whilst Verts has played that position he was obviously unhappy with AVB.

If we can just get to string some results together until the January windows opens and then maybe we can hope that Levy can bring someone half decent into that Left Back position. If we can stay in touch with the top 5 by the end of January maybe our season can be turned around especially if we can get Verts Kaboul and Townsend fit again.

Our problems seemed to have dramatically reversed. We were sound at the back and dreadful up front now we have started getting goals, albeit from the outfield players, but now we are leaking goals at the back. It may be a negative but for the moment we need to concentrate on defence and start keeping clean sheets again. How we do that with Kaboul only having a part time job, Vertonghen out and Chiriches clearly not the best in the air, is the challenge that faces the coaching squad. We are going to have to drop the high line tactic and get some taller bodies like Chadli helping out at the back. Lennon and whoever takes over left wing will need to track back and help the left back.

It`s time for some players to too step up to the plate. AVB cannot take all the blame for the Citeh, Spam and Bin Dipper results. As much as I love him, Dawson is great against the lower half of the table teams but he is not at the level we need for the top 6 teams. The truth is we need another quality CB and defo a high class LB. The problem for us at the moment is our stock has fallen big time so the next appointment is important not just for getting us back on track but for any player looking for a move to the Premiership from abroad may be thinking twice about coming to us.

We don`t have to spend big to get a team together. Everton and, to some extent, Scum, have shown that you don`t have to buy success like Citeh and Chavski we just have to be a bit more savvy. We have all seen the list AVB wanted as opposed to the players Baldini brought in but there is nothing wrong with this squad it just needs a couple or three better signings. Whoever takes over at Spurs has a really good squad to work with. Recent results are not a fair reflection on our players. It won`t be a dodle for Hoddle or any other manager coming in but it`s on the pitch now that counts so we need to continue our away form and get a result at Southampton.

COYS!

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Date:Saturday December 21 2013

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Your Comments

Some goals would be nice.
MAN ON!
I would take a point all day long, negative? Maybe, realistic yes, but hey we are Spurs we don't do realism. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
Anything out of our fixtures at the moment is a bonus, trying to remain positive, yet fearing the worse, reminds me of an old saying ''When you’re up to your ass in alligators, it’s hard to remember you’re there to drain the swamp''
spu 4 life
Holtby and Capoue maybe as the deep CM/DM, Dembele in the hole or Eriksen. Chadli LW, Lennon RW. Big shout, Ade up top, maybe as a partnership with Soldado dependant on the hole role. Not going to happen but i'd like to see Eriksen cutting in from the Left, Lamela behind Ade, Lennon Right and the aforementioned CM/DM and the only available defenders.
Cider spurs
get us the 3 points sherwoody! I know you can do it. arry gung ho style up and at em kitchen sink the works and a controversial post match conference please. glad avb is gone. love the mighty spurs. COYS
logos8
anything better than 3 losses in a row will be a success for sherwoody. if we score 9 goals in 3 games give him the job, 3 year contract and a box of cubans. I can see in him the next England manager. :D:D:D please don't ask me if I am serious.
logos8
Sherwood for the England job, now!
MAN ON!
I would like to see Soldado and Ade play, but not necessarily at the same time. chadli, capoue, lennon, lamela, dembele all must play if not all as starters at least coming from the bench . if Eriksen is fit he will prove to be the next whl magician. 3 points is not a tall order, make it happen sherwoody
logos8
yes Sherwood for England, he will win the world cup. they won't know what hit them
logos8
I think I was posting in the wrong article. damn
logos8
MAN ON ... Went away for 20 minutes came back, and my wish was granted! My predictions are never based on common sense or reality! 3-0 Spurs.
Geofspurs
Looks like Sherwood may be going to go 4 4 2 with Ade and Defoe up top. ........ http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/20/southampton-tottenham-hotspur-squad-sheets
chrishove123
chris ... prefer Soldado with Ade for this one. Anyone know who WON'T be playing because of injury?
Geofspurs
Doubtful Sandro (calf) Injured Kaboul (thigh, Jan), Vertonghen (ankle, Jan), Townsend (hamstring, Jan)
logos8
I would go with 4-5-1 and change it to 4-4-2 with ade and soldado only if we concede or maybe try it in the second half a while if it's still 0-0, and if that makes us vulnerable then make another sub and revert back to 4-5-1.
logos8
logos8 ... cheers. I guess Sherwood knows who he wants in this one, and why. I wish I did!
Geofspurs
-------------------Lloris---------------------- --Walker--Dawson---Chirc----Rose/Fryers -------------Dembele------Holtby/Capoue----------- Lennon-------------------------------Lamela ----------Ade----------------Soldado
Rapm
Well that didn't work as planned.
Rapm
This game will shed some light on how much Sherwood focuses on the opposition. I like a manger who concentrates mainly on his own teams strengths and style, although the opposition can't be totally ignored, and if we go out there 442, it would suggest we're looking at ourselves first, which is good. 442 against the spam COULD suggest a preferred formation, but may also just suggest recognition of a fixture in which it could be used. Ade and Defoe can both play deeper anyway, so it's maybe not SO different from the 4231 we've been playing recently. And it's not just the shape, but the intent, also. Westham tells me it was all about us and attack. When the spamsters started responding to big Sams' well-known YMCA touch-line dance routine, our makeshifts, if prepared, got it all wrong. Even in possession, they committed suicide in cult-like fashion. Let's see if this issues have been addressed. And remember, it's not what WE think of Sherwood that matters, it's what the players think.
jerkinmahjurgen
lol Rapm. Are you having some team shape issues?
jerkinmahjurgen
Rapm ... can't disagree with your team. Trouble is, with our squad, I can't disagree with most teams, on paper!
Geofspurs
Looking at the league table; take out the top six and the bottom six and we are in the mid-table bunch. That won't change after this weekend as things are starting to settle a bit. So, for the rest of the season this is how I see it. It will take a few weeks to get back on track. We need to start to gain some momentum from March that will take us into the next season. We need to win the Europa League. I think we can do this as we seem more suited to playing against European teams than PL teams at the moment.
Geofspurs
geofspurs I doubt things will be that easy in EL in the last 16 or 8. Napoli, Juventus, Ajax, Shaktar and others won't be easy to beat. My money is on Napoli, Benitez just seems to have the required mojo in this competition.
logos8
Suarez does it again 24mins in. Nice goal too.
logos8
logos8 ... I agree it won't be easy toward the end, but I think we do have the squad to really compete and we have a bit of time befor this competition continues to get ourselves organised and more confident. I hope!
Geofspurs
Not a happy hunting ground even when things are going well, and that is far from the case at the moment. We really need to win this one after the Liverpool fiasco, and the loss in the Capitol 1 v West Ham. We need to restore some self respect, and get the media off of our backs. Do I think we will, I am afraid I think a draw would be a good result at the moment.
Frank
There's a guy AVB sanctioned for 30 million of our hard earned currencies, why doesnt he play he should be good.
tophobunty1882
geofspurs, if only the new eufa rules that put the EL winners in CL would have been applied from this season, that would have been great extra incentive and an awesome opportunity considering the tough situation regarding top 4.
logos8
Ade and soldado to start, I can see them two playing well together. Lamela needs to start playing regularly so we can see what he is made of as one game here and there doesn't help.
Kong
Kong, I too would like to see those three players from the start. COYS!
Critical_Spur
The way ade plays soldado can concentrate on what he does best rather than coming looking for the ball all the time. Ade has good link up play and with lamela I feel they can all interchange very well and create chances. Will Sherwood play all three, I don't think so. Interesting to see the team for tomorrow.
Kong
I am ecouraged by creation of Adebayor goal against West Ham. When was the last time we manouevred space for a volley with no defender near.
cynicspur
I am not sure 4-4-2 away at Southampton could be the best way to go. We might be vulnerable and they will punish us.
logos8
Liverpool are doing it again!
Geofspurs
Suarez is doing it again, Arsenal will be off top spot soon.
Kong
logos, United and Liverpool NORMALLY play with two strikers. One striker plays a deeper role. Rooney and Suarez operate from deep positions. I feel Ade can be deep lying player as he gets the others involved and great at holding up ball in the final 1/3rd when required.
Critical_Spur
3-0! If Mackays team loose by 5 or more and he's fired, oh what irony, if we give him a job!?
MAN ON!
17 goals in the last 4 games. and they still have another 45 mins to score more today.
logos8
Critical_Spur ade played deep at times against west ham so I think he is up for the job, plus the defenders probably fear him most than they fear Soldado or Defoe. People here will still make fun of the 4-4-2 even if we score open play goals with it more than we scored under avb this season.
logos8
It wasn't strictly 442 against the Bubbles anyway….
MAN ON!
MAN ON! my point too, but some here slaughtered Sherwood for it. Like the boring sideways, backwards, fancy exotic avb tactics were much better. Organizing a good defense is a much easier task than being capable of scoring goals. We did not look able to score with the boring tactics and the numbers show it.
logos8
logos8… Yes, but I feel we need a balance between the two… We ran out of steam on wednesday and I could only see us loosing, even once we'd scored.
MAN ON!
Cardiff have scored! One more than us then!
MAN ON!
No it was just lets all run forward and hope i bit like U14s.
Frank
Man On I thought we were going to win once we scored but I usually live in fantasy land. I think the players thought that too, that was another problem.
logos8
logos8… So do I. So do I………. If only it were pure fantasy.
MAN ON!
Cardiff get beat 3-1 at Anfield, looks better to me than 5-0 at home, especially the squad they have compared to ours. Mackay for Spurs.
Frank
Jesus, St Mary's and Joseph! We need some faith, hope and just a little charity from the Saints. ……….. and the Spurs go sidestepping on…..
MAN ON!
One of the Stats sites published tracking charts for Soldado in 2 games combined versus Ade in the Hammers game and Ade covered virtually the whole of thepitch and more than Soldado in 2 games. It was definitely not just 442 on Wednesday, but I gues the AVBigots just assume because Ade is listed as a striker we must have been playing 2 up top. I think if Sherwood is really issuing ultimatums like "give me the job or I'm off" then he has probably already had the nod from Levy otherwise he is just heading out the door as Levy won't stand for any dissent. Regarding Southampton, I was expecting us to get another pounding before AVB went given Southampton's pressing and counter-attacking style which would have exposed the AVB tactics again, so anything better than a defeat will be progress for me.
Harry-Kari
RIP David Coleman, giant of Sports broadcasting, died today.
Frank
I have to agree with Frank here. It was all just about going forward with pace. As if that is sufficient to win. Ah, back to the days of go out and run around a bit. Many a title has been won with such brilliant tactics. There was absolutely no attention to detail against West Ham. Sure, great goal. Never mind that Defoe's first touch almost lost the ball. Excellent cross and finish. Beyond that. 21 shots at goal. 4 actually hit it. West Ham, 12 shots and 8 on target. 10 corners that amounted to a breath of warm air. Defensive marking that was all over the place. No one seemed to know what they were doing. Southampton are well drilled and have players of a higher quality than West Ham. We may well score one. But I would not be shocked to see more of Lloris picking the ball out of the net. This will not be an easy game. WBA and Stoke at home will be very physical affairs. And then it's United and Arsenal. These 5 games are the season. Blow this and the entire year is done and players will be wanting out. The Board have, through their lack of conviction in any manager, royally messed us up. We still have 30M of the new TV money that has not been touched. If Sherwood is managing, can anyone really see the board wanting to bring anyone else in? If the League and FA Cup are also all done by the first week of January, expect the players to start looking to the door. COYS
peterballb
David Coleman, alongside Brian Moore were my favorite broadcasters. RIP and rhanks for the wonderful memories on tv. COYS!
James1
I must admit I haven´t saw this disarray situation coming...I think no one has. Winning or losing on the pitch became secondary to me when I ponder about the trouble Daniel Levy might put Tottenham Hotspur into which can ne translated by Brendan Rodgers´ statement that he never really considered working for Spurs given the club´s recent history of frequent manager sackings. Tim Sherwood does not look like the solution for us. Actually, Spurs look like a solution to him, not the other way around. I wonder whether any 1st class manager wants to work with Daniel Levy this season and the next...that is the main problem we face. On the pitch, I cannot see us beating The Saints tomorrow. Too many injuries, no playing pattern, players probably confused about tactics and positions. Anyway, from the upcoming matches, I guess we can get 1 pt tomorrow, 3 on the Boxing Day, one more from Stoke and none against United on New Year´s Day. Top Four is a far cry now looking at how Liverpool, City, Chelsea and Arsenal are playing.
AlexSpur
James ... agree with you about both of those. They both made the game more enjoyable. My favourite commentator now is Martin Tyler. There are too many really bad ones though!
Geofspurs
Alex, I was just thinking the same thing. Every proposed manager seems a lot closer to implying, no darned way, than saying, but for my contract, it would be an interesting job. I don't think anyone wants this job. AC Milan are considering AVB. Wonder if he'd take the job? COYS
peterballb
cynic I think it'll be about the last time we saw Defoe give an assist. lol
longtimespur
RIP David Coleman. You made TV sport come to life…...
MAN ON!
The way I feel at this moment, I really want AVB to succeed and prove a lot of people wrong……….
MAN ON!
Peaks and troughs ... can't wait for the next peak! Just hope we've reached the bottom of the trough.
Geofspurs
Geofspurs….. Your optimism is welcome…. Up the Spurs! I'm off to party for the rest of the day. Why not, it's xmas!?
MAN ON!
Have fun MAN ON! ;-)
Geofspurs
Agree Geofspurs. The bad ones never know when to shut up and they always state the bloody obvious. Tyler is the best out there..class act. COYS!
James1
We are in deep dodo now.. the defense is shot to bits, MF not far behind, attack same. So we need a manager who can come in.. organise them and instill confidence and some discipline and tactical flair. As others have said... what manager will join us at the moment.. summer is the time the good quality managers will consider.
Block D Spurs
Honestly think Hoddle would be the best solution for this season, but I gather there is major historical aggro between him and Sherwood. Anyone know if that's true? I think Glenda has the tactical nous and the experience to get the best out of what remains an excellent squad of players. Let's see how the next week goes, but I fear that Tim Sherwood will come up short and we could be way back come Jan 2nd. If nothing else, bring back Bennie and Carroll from loan. COYS
KingGlenn
Hopefully Ade can play the full game as we clearly missed his direction when he went off
spursnoob
what a beautiful own goal from Kompany
logos8
Harry-Kari nice point. avb lovers want to see only wat they want. same goes for non-avb lovers like myself though. lol
logos8
I watched the QPR game at lunchtime today. Whilst Carroll could still do with filling out somewhat i must admit that he kept the ball moving well. I think he could do a job for us now in certain games. Quick balls from back to attack, his shooting was not all that today, so that should be another pointer that he'll fit right in. Whomever comes in, hopefully we will see just one DM played and somebody a little more creative with passing alongside. Carroll or Holtby for me. Dembele, Paulinho at times when ball carriers and steel are required. I have to admit Carroll is the closest in style player to Modric i have seen belonging to Spurs. Some way off, but dictates the pace nicely. Can he step up, i'm going to say yes, hopefully a recall will follow this January.
Cider spurs
let's just hope that we all want to see what is best for Spurs. Dumping a manager you have appointed and invested in, when within reach of top 4 and still in it for all four competitions is ridiculous. If it were to bring in more experience or a better name, I'd get it. WE have replaced a manager who has won stuff with one who has no elite coaching experience at all. There is no plan. In a little more than 2 weeks we could go from being in it in 4 competitions to out of 3 with CL placing being improbable and only Europe to play for with a manager who is not eligible to coach in Europe. There is no plan. They have no clue what they are doing. COYS
peterballb
Need the win,but please no to boy scout Tim Sherwood for too long.
Fanny adams
A case for Tim? Well I can't be bothered to read the article, but it looks to me as if the Paper Boy wants to be the NewsAgent, No experience at top level management, if he was that good why did Arry (who's talking him up) not make him his Number 2 when he had control. That said if he wants to put his neck on the line and give it a go, good luck to him. Having watched L'Pool win which was good as they move in on that other lot and Man City also win to do the same, anyone of these two going onto win the prem is a top result. Man U beat Wet Spam pushing them nearer the bottom 3, Ravel Morrison reminds me of Jenas at the same stage of his career and we all know how Jenas turned out, so 3 excellent results. If we can just miss the Europa Cut in the league come the end of the season, we can star to build again playing only once a week over 7 days, with the odd cup game and the FA's crazy system of games, CL then no we can't compete at that level and travelling to some third world venue in the europa has already taken it's toll, to get CL and Levy money No, it made no odds on incoming players last time around, why should it be any different. Do we need 3pts tomorrow, is the pope catholic.
spu 4 life
Tim's got a Blue Peter badge, Levy is speaking to his lawyers to see if that's ok.
spu 4 life
peterballb we'll score more goals in the next 6 games than we did in our last 16 in the EPL. wait and see. (just kidding) we were in a worse position when harry came and as clueless as he was we managed to have a nice run in CL and 2 top 4 finishes, not to mention that one season we were the best to watch team in the EPL, even our rivals were saying it. Get a decent manager in the summer, get CL (by top4 or by winning EL), the next season get in the quarters of CL and the season after that win a trophy. Yes they are clueless but it's not a disaster, we have a good squad and we can go places. If clueless Harry was able to do it with jenas, hudds, crouch and pav I bet a decent manager can do the same thing with our squad. Maybe AVB could have done it, I can't prove he couldn't have (although some would argue that he should have finished 4th last season but failed), but he is gone now, so let's stay optimistic and hope for the best. COYS
logos8
What's the difference between Tottenham and a Souffle? A Souffle rises up when the heat is turned up.
spu 4 life
Is Levy not the lawyer as well?. he does everything else by all accounts. One sugar in mine Danny boy there's a good chap. Oh, and trap one is out of toilet roll.
Cider spurs
Seriously…… Give Levy the managers post. Musical chairs always goes down all at this time of the year. Sherwood can clean Lamelas boots and Sir Les can sell the shirts!
MAN ON!
I'm *****ed! Goodbye!
MAN ON!
It was extremely funny to hear the best supporters on here slagging off the worst supporters for doubting & not being convinced by AVB & his methods .......ha ha

Then they sacked him
Fanny adams
Looking at Daniel Levy's past actions on manager appt.. He has always had a manager in place same day, if not before sacking the existing one.. i.e. Harry for Ramos, BMJ for Santini.. this time he has not. So it looks like AVB walked out on Monday in the meeting with Levy at the training ground..therefore it looks like he has not a clue what he is doing... when it was AVB choice that caused it ??
Block D Spurs
good one fanny... I like fanny.
tophobunty1882
It will be interesting to see the team and tactics deployed against Southampton. Someone said I like a team that concentrates on their strengths rather than the opposition. Hard place to go and get a result if we go with an attack minded side I would say give the job to Tim he knows better than most.
ItalianYiddo
and win I meant to say
ItalianYiddo
Italian have you been to the Doctor yet about this AVB thing?
tophobunty1882
Spurs and Swansea to win tomorrow, Chelski and Le Arse to draw on Monday.
chrishove123
Man On, The Goalkeeper's Union is right behind you. ......... "SHERWOOD FOR ENGLAND, SHERWOOD FOR ENGLAND".
chrishove123
I was screaming for Ade and Soldado to play up front together for ages, up until the "photo' shoot" with Benny. Ade has since apologised and turned in a decent performance then scored, so I feel he deserves one last chance. Whether the pic was taken before or after is irrelevant it should have been kept as a private joke. Now we have the chance for Ade and Soldado to actually be paired up front I think now is the time to try it out, it can't do any worse than one up front with inverted bloody wingers. (Stupid idea.) I think (hope) they will be able to work together very well indeed. Bring it on SOuthampton. A few players have been coming out worth positive remarks, whether that is to boost and bolster what little confidence they have left or whether it is genuine I don't know, but it is good that they are making the effort to let us, the fans, know they haven't thrown the towel in despite the ongoing pantomime. Oh well at least it's the right time of year for all these goings on, Levy as the old washerwoman (There's always an old washerwoman LOL.) and Lewis as the ugly sister's Mother.
chrishove123
Italian, I don't know if you are being ironic or not when you say give the job to Tim he knows better than most. We do need an irony/sarcasm icon. LOL
chrishove123
chrishove, I made a mess of my post, what I meant to say was if he plays an attacking line up and we win give him the job, cause I can't see it happening. the win I mean.
ItalianYiddo
We have very little chance of winning 2mo. A disjointed back line against a team who press the defenders early all game is a recipe for disaster.
spurfect one
spurfect, when a team sets up as you describe southampton do, you need to pick a side able to break fast if they continue to press high on mass. shame Townsend is not available for this one, but it would be good to have someone in the middle who can move the ball quickly
tophobunty1882
Italian, he may yet shock us all. LOL
chrishove123
tophobunty1882 Is Erikson fit? He could do a pretty good job of moving that ball around the middle if he were.
chrishove123
‘I’d love to see them [Arsenal] do well, I grew up an Arsenal fan as a kid,’ he said. ‘My dad still goes to the Emirates every week.’ Never came across as the brightest of creatures our Tim, but if he wants to endear himself to the Spurs faithful that is pretty smart.
ItalianYiddo
Chris I think he is and yes he would, probably the best we have in that way.
tophobunty1882
Ericksen is sort of fit coming back from injury playing for Denmark, he's going to be good for us, not so much this season but next. Lamela too if he stays long enough.
ItalianYiddo
we're fecked if we win or lose...win and some people (those with half a brain) will say how well Tim has done lets keep him (and that will be ****e for the med- long-term)...lose and obviously we lose another 3 points and sink further into ****e....good to see our chairman respects the fans with his clear statement...tosser.
shedboy2
Block D- so it wasn't Levy's choice..OK, so why no statement?...the man is a poor manager and poor communicator hence we keep hiring and firing managers....he may be good at moving parcels of land around...but we are a football club and he's turned us into a laughing stock...not exactly gaining new supporters for a new stadium is he?
shedboy2
shed, I was always unhappy with the undignified way he went about sacking managers, the crowd knowing during the game that Jol was going to be sacked before he did a prime example. I still gave him the benefit of the doubt as I thought he was taking the club in the right direction one step at the time, even though he/Lewis could have done more in investing more. You know better than most that he hasn't invested any real money. This latest mess has shown that he's not fit for the job. It looks like he manouvred himself in a corner and he's going to very lucky to get out of it with any credibility. Levy out!!
ItalianYiddo
I didn't have any time for him as a player, don't like him that much as a person, we don't know what sort of manager he will turn out to be but wish Sherwood luck with the team tomorrow. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
I was thinking a lot about our formation for tomorrow's game and i think the best possible formation is 4-3-1-2 -----------------------------------lloris------------------------------------------------walker----chirkes----------dawson----------------rose---------------------------dembele----------sandro-----------holtby-------------------------------------------eriksen--------------------------------------------------------lamela-----------------soldado---------------------- give soldado, lamela and eriksen freedom when attacking. what do you think guys.
foofighter
Monopoly money again Italian? what sort of money did we use to but those players? One assumes Real paid us with Real money? ........ you dont like Sherwood as a person, how many times have you met him as a person. I think he is a decent bloke but should not be manager past Sunday if at all possible.
tophobunty1882
Come On You Spurs & Win Win WIn !
Madaboutspurs
foofighter..soldado over Ade?
tophobunty1882
According to Lamela's brother, lamela is starting tomorrow, he also mentioned he would not be playing against west ham day before the match. Not sure how true starting tomorrow is.
Kong
One thing for sure, With a new manager, who has only managed won game (Tim), Pochettino will not know what to expect and will have his own dilemma of picking a team!

Against West Ham, we started in the Harry (gung ho) style and finished in AVB (defensive) syle. Tim needs to find a compromise, so as not to knacker everyone in 1st 45 mins and used subs to keep up the pressure rather than hand over the initiative.

Seeing how indifferent Defoe and Soldado have been so far (individually and as partnership), I would partner Soldado with Ade in this game. If Ade plays anything like his performance against WHU, that in itself is a big plus for our strikers department.
Critical_Spur
tophobunty1882 Eriksen and Soldado have cooperated well with each other at the beginning of the season that's why soldado over ade
foofighter
tops- re: Sherwood, you might want to ask some of the Blackburn boys what he's like...Roy hodgson didn't speak very highly of him either...if he can't get on with hoddle that makes more of a reason to bring hoddle in imo...;)
shedboy2
Critical_Spur- bit of a Freudian slip there...tim has only managed 'one' game...he has not 'won' a game...;)
shedboy2
From Brad Friedel: Despite rumours of bust-ups with striker Emmanuel Adebayor and coach Steffen Freund, Friedel insists there isn't a player in the Spurs squad who is happy to see the former Chelsea coach depart. “I think all the players in the changing room really wanted things to work out for Andre," he told Fox Sports. "From day one that he came to the club, open door policy, very good communication with the players. None of us were happy to see him go. “In saying that, we still have to continue to have a very good team spirit, which I know we will. We have a lot of quality in the changing room.
ItalianYiddo
Maybe Sherwood's thinking about Wenger's eventual retirement and hoping to replace him at Arsenal .... from his remarks about Arsenal. It's the kind of less-than-subtle approach our-old-Arry would take!
Geofspurs
ItalianYiddo -- And that quote came from a player who had lost his place in the team. It seems to be a comment without any ulterior motive.
SpursEagle
SpursEagle, you hear so much crap from people without them knowing the facts, not sure what to make from the supposed offer of resignation from Baldini, why would he feel he should offer his resignation?
ItalianYiddo
Personally unless there is a QUALIFIED quality experienced manager being spoken to now who is prepared to come and take his chances then I think Hoddle should come in for the rest of the season and we see what happens. He and Sherwood seems to be the only two that have put themselves forward, the differences is Hoddle has said he is happy to come and 'help' us out in any way possible and he is qualified and has experience and Sherwood has said 'I want the job for 10 years and he has no experience at ths level and apparently isn't qualified for our Europa games and has decided to say he is a Arsenal fan.

Come on fans, how stupid is Sherwood making himself look. This is already going to his head. Hoddle may not be the long term solution and may not do enough to win us anything this season or get us CL but compared to Sherwood he is head and shoulders above Sherwood in every department to do a better job.

We need it sorting and it is looking increasingly like there is no other managers prepared to come this season. So if it is out of the two I choose Hoddle and I think it is about time we questioned Ferdinad about his role, how long have our strikers been poor and if Sherwood doesn't get the job then it may look like he will want to leave, he has dug himself in a hole, sounds familiar, HR last year.
WorldPeace
ItalianYiddo -- Don't know what to make of that either, mate. It would have been better for all involved, for the sake of the club as a whole, to have cooled down and reviewed the situation at the end of the season, instead of, potentially, derailing this one.
SpursEagle
Italian ... Have not heard about the Baldini offer to resign ... where did that come from? Doesn't seem to make much sense, but then, what does make sense at the moment!
Geofspurs
Worldpeace, Levy has messed up big time, if I was him I wouldn't waste any time giving Hoddle the job till the end of the season, there is still time to salvage the season to some extent. In a way winning tomorrow could be a mini disaster as it would encourage Levy to stick with Sherwood, season over.
ItalianYiddo
Geofspurs, http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10533062/Tottenham-Hotspur-rejected-Franco-Baldinis-offer-of-resignation-following-departure-of-Andre-Villas-Boas.html
ItalianYiddo
WorldPeace how is Glenn Hoddle Head and shoulders above Sherwood in every department to do a better job ? When 1, Hoddle has not trained with the players, 2 been out of management for a number of years, 3 Failed at his last attempt with us. Imo Sherwood should continue until we find a respected European coach who is experienced working under the restrictions of a D.O.F.
spurfect one
Here's something to cheer everyone up. Dave Mackay and Billy Bremner THIS is the sort of grit and determination we need and he had it in bucketfulls.. ............................................................. http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/history/50th-anniversary-spurs-legend-breaking-2908331
chrishove123
Italian ... cheers for that! chris .... Mackay is my all time sporting hero; a one man team!
Geofspurs
logos8, yes, the position Harry walked in to was more dire than what we see now. That said, IMO, Ramos was never going to get us relegated. Look how hard it has been for AVB to assimilate all of the new players with the injuries we have had. Yet still, we were not out of anything when he left. 1 game since, and we are. In another 5 games the title, League and FA Cups may well all be history and CL may well be all but impossible. Ramos, that season was given 8 games (really 6 as news was out that Harry had been spoken to after game 6) to incorporate a whole new team having lost most of his key players from the previous season. Modric was crap that season. Corluka lost. Woodgate injured. Pav not in until late. Gomes all over the place. Strikers, MF, defence and keeper all affected by the changes. Again, most of the key players from other leagues. We have seen this before. It is a huge ask. Ramos needed time. AVB needed time. The next guy needed time. My worry is thus, we go out of the FA Cup and the League and CL look done in the first week of December, how are we going to get enough games to satisfy all of the players on the roster. Is Tim going to run out Defoe and Adebayor and sit Soldado? (Defoe is reportedly already leaving and Adebayor will be gone because 90k/week is a pittance). So Soldado sits and will want out. Then there's Rose. Bring BAE back, play him and sit Rose. Well, that will have Rose looking for the door. Oh but wait, BAE is gone in 6 months too. Are we going to play Gomes and sit Lloris? Who is the future. Defoe, Adebayor, Gomes, BAE, Dawson - these guys are the past. Get over it. I'd rather go down playing kids than continuing with players who are past it or are not team players. It is a joke that the tail seems to be wagging the dog. If people think that Adebayor walking in and not earning his sport is not resented by those who have been working their butts off, they are deluded. I'd rather see Kane. I just see this year on the precipice and there was no reason to be anywhere near it.

As for calling AVB's finishing 5th last season not a success, take 4 of the best 5 players off of any team and see where they finish. The expectations of some on here are delusional at best. Harry, with arguably the third best squad in the PL, managed to get as high as fourth. In fact, the year we got 4th, we threw away 21 points in games we dominated. Poor management, so far as I am concerned. The following 2 seasons we were in there for the title in January only to go in to relegation form for a third of the season because the squad was not used. As I see it, Harry underachieved in his last three seasons at Spurs. Harry could have spent 40M on Suarez, Dzeko and Falcao instead of Keane, Defoe and Crouch. That's Harry being Harry. I can't even imagine how bad the QPR finances are. If they fail to get promoted this season, it will be an unmitigated disaster. Not my problem. Spurs are a concern to me though and all I see leaves me lacking in optimism and fearing that the players that could all have been part of a dynasty will all be heading elsewhere as soon as they can. If out of Europe, we will be ripe for picking by any top team. Interest in Lloris, Sandro, Vertonghen, Walker, Dembele. WE will be losing top players again. This time though, it will be our doing. COYS
peterballb
shed i know what he is like i can use my own judgement.
tophobunty1882
Unless we bring a top, proven coach immediately Hoddle will do a job till the end of the season. How can you gamble on someone that hasn't managed at any level? Hoddle has been out of the game but still very much in touch with the modern game and is someone who has managed to get England playing decent football, not many have, Sherwood or Hoddle? Is there a choice? Sherwood may turn out to be the best ever, he needs to earn his spurs first but not at Spurs.
ItalianYiddo
blimey..italian yiddo and topho agree on hodd for holding,,,
jacobslad
Unless we bring a top, proven coach immediately Hoddle will do a job till the end of the season. How can you gamble on someone that hasn't managed at any level? Hoddle has been out of the game but still very much in touch with the modern game and is someone who has managed to get England playing decent football, not many have, Sherwood or Hoddle? Is there a choice? Sherwood may turn out to be the best ever, he needs to earn his spurs first but not at Spurs.
ItalianYiddo
peterballb. Hull game won by a lucky undeserved penalty. Cardiff game, won by luck in the 93rd minute Paulinho goal. Newcastle at whl lost, no goals scored. West Ham at whl lost, no goals scored. Liverpool at whl scored more open play goals than we have scored at whl all season. It wasn't looking good. Just because we were still in the cups doesn't mean avb was going to get something out of them.Yes the gel was the biggest factor, but I don't buy your idea that his sacking will wreck our season because it wasn't looking good anyway. Get over it. AVB was a poor appointment from day 1 and as someone else pointed out in a different thread, the atmosphere at WHL has started to be poor from his first match in charge there. I am not a Harry lover and I don't hate AVB, it's just the way I see it.
logos8
logos, we will never know, we might still be in the Capital semi, we may still have been knocked out with AVB, I doubt it but we will never know. What we know is that since the sacking Rodgers came out and said in not so many words thank ***** I didn't go anywhere that place, would he have said that if he thought he deserved the sack? Wenger said too many players at once, he needed time, Gary Neville said the same thing. Poor, poor handling by Levy, not only risking wiping out our season but also dragging down our stock.
ItalianYiddo
logos if we win against saints we will be 6 points off top, with players still "gelling" and the injured getting fit...how do you feel about that, and how does that fit with your selective choice of results and denigration of AVB? How come, with no replacement to hand, we have lost one of the most successful managers points/game wise we have ever had. Sorry I just don't get it.
jacobslad
Lot of politics at Spurs at the moment, much of it to do with Lamela who will 100% start tomorrow. Good luck to the lad and hope he proves AVB wrong. We need some light at the end of the tunnel.
jacobslad
*tomorrow* = "today*. Different time zone.
jacobslad
Interesting to see the line up today, will it be much different from midweek, I expect changes and hopefully a win.
Kong
jacobsland, it looks that Lamela wasn't AVB's choice still can't see him not playing him for that reason, he has struggled to adapt, there for all to see. He was giving him time to ease himself in. Some players adapt quicker than others.
ItalianYiddo
Maybe lamela was struggling to adapt because he knew he wasn't AVB's choice and wouldn't get games, not great for confidence. I don't think he has played back to back games yet.
Kong
Agreed Italian Yiddo, although I think Lamela should have played v Newc. Lets see what happens. With Townsend out he must be up the pecking order.
jacobslad
EVEN with Townsend's injury - i DO NOT want to see Lennon anywhere near the starting line-up. He epitomises Spurs woes this season. He looks grumpy and disinterested. Always complaining about this pass or that from someone. He has stopped - what I feel was his only saving grace for 1st team - tracking back and helping defend. Against Liverpool and West Ham you could see him strolling back at a leisurely pace. He has never and will never be a player that can score goals or even have a remotely decent assists return - IN 230 league games for the club he has only scored 25 goals and had 40 assists. That's 1 goal every 9-10 games (4 a season) and only 1 assist every 6 games (6 a season). That is not and never has been enough. Along with Defoe and Dawson, Spurs should say thanks but no thanks. We appreciate your service over the last x-number of years but time to move on before you become the new Robbie Keane. Lennon's best ever season was as follows - 3 goals and 9 assists - FIVE YEARS AGO. Compare that to a Suarez or God forbid Aaron Ramsey. #LennonOut #DawsonOut #DefoeOut
mellowchaos
Kong, I am Lamela's biggest fan, I saw Lamela play some games for Roma the boy is a true talent. I have also seen at the Lane, he has shown flashes but the only game in which he shone was that Eufa game, so hard for a manager to pick a player that is not quite ready when every point is crucial in the PL. He started Lamela against City, probably under pressure, and we all know what happened there.
ItalianYiddo
Ok Tops- if you know him and think he's decent bloke fair play...for me he's just part of an arrogant, ignorant modern player cartel that think they are so much better than they are because they played the game at a high level and have made a fortune....they tend not to realise they are barrow boys that only have any money because the popularity of the game coincided with a TV revolution...20 years earlier and Tim would be owning a Bar trying to eek out the money he made...20 years later and he wouldn't have made it in the PL as the skill level has changed....he's a Lucky man....but he thinks he's god's gift.
shedboy2
I think sometimes you just have to throw good players together and let them do their thing. I'd love to see Lamela, Eriksen and Holtby together with the freedom to do what they want. As long as they are defending nearest man. We can then have Rose and Walker hugging the touchline and providing the width and Dembele and Capoue sitting behind them. If it doesn't work then throw on Lennon and Adebayor and play with more orthodox 4-4-2.
muttley
Here's somebody else who wants the job. http://www.footballtradedirectory.com/news/2013/december/former-manchester-united-assistant.html?
longtimespur
Just read Sherwood was a boyhood gooner. SHERWOOD OUT!
MrSpurs
mellowchaos; Thank's for posting that, during the week I came out with how poor Lennon's return is, his last goal was vs Arsenal last season at home (which should see him score anytime soon) so his due one again, he might bring balance down the right side, so would a bag of ballast, only you might get more goals and assists from a bag of ballast.
spu 4 life
jacobslad...Agree mate. Lamela was finding it tough enough add to that the supposed tale of him not being wanted by AVB and i too hope his class will rise above this shambles and he shows all and sundry what a great player he is. Eriksen being another, great player just needs a run and a little time. I suggest we may see the best of him a touch further back, maybe behind Ade and Soldado would work well. He did actually state earlier in the season that playing so high up the pitch threw him somewhat. i found this comment strange because whilst i was aware he could drift in from the Left, i also thought he played in the hole at times for Ajax?. Is he really a player who sits in between CM and AM? as opposed to outright AM/10?. He has placed in the European top 10 assists chart for last 3 seasons. I suggest we play him in the role that saw these returns, the position must have been his forte.
Cider spurs
Reading the Telegraph article ''Baldini wanted to resign'' what direction is Levy taking us, looks like his sat nav is cream crackered only 16 games in the prem played + one more today, finished top of our europa group, just got put out of the capital one cup by a team who is only ever up for one game vs us, that result was going to kick start the season, they must have forgot the next game was away to Man U and the next home to Arsenal, beating us 3-0, knocking us out of the C-1-C, be a nice end to the season seeing them in the bottom 3.
spu 4 life
So can we win today? We can if we go about it the right way and play with confindence and to the best of our ability, the players who are fit, are very good players, to finish this week off with 3pts and on 30, would be a blessing, never known a week like it in all my years as a spurs supporter, surely it can't get any worse, can it?
spu 4 life
jacobslad Harry was more succesfull at spurs. 2 top4 finishes and Cl quarter finals. Harry had a weaker squad when he came to us so avb's win rate does not impress me. We are in the table exactly where we deserve to be. We are nowhere near top 4 quality with the amount of goals we have scored. I'll admit I am wrong when I see avb actually achieving something outside Portugal.
logos8
Here goes....Lloris,..Walker,..Dawson,..Vlad,..Rose,..Capoue,..Holtby,..Lennon,..Chadli,..Lamela,..Ade.

I've gone for this line up with Chadli and Lamela able to drift in and out of LW. Both Lamela and Chadli are adept in the hole role, think it could make for some interchanging football Left to middle whilst still retaining good pace with Rose to overlap. Rightside is pacy and Walker and Lennon are able to smash it when on song. CM/DM strong enough with one a quick ball passer and in your face tackler, the other a great passer of the ball and able to defend MF well. Defence, well that's yer' lot.
Cider spurs
I agree ItalianY, lamela has the potential to be great, it doesn't help playing one game here and there. Yes it was a big game to play him at man city but then he wasn't on the be ncp I don't think the next game then started at Fulham and then disappeared again. I just want a more settled team so players can get an understanding with each other.
Kong
To all our fans going to the St Mary, good luck and hope you have a great day. Our away support is fantastic, don't get to go to many away games these days, always, need to sort that out. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
jacobslad look at what results Everton and Newcastle are getting. We have been so poor compared to them. How can you defend a man who has kept Soldado isolated the whole season despite our poor record in front of goal? playing inverted wingers, players out of position, the same predictable and boring tactics, not to mention the Lloris debacle (concussion) and others. Chelsea saved their season by sacking him but he was the man to take us forward. amazing stuff.
logos8
Sorry to say, but i questioned the returns from Lennon the other day and suggested salah would now be a better fit. Pacy winger, both wings. Scores goals. Young and a box of tricks. I was shot down in flames by some?. I think he would improve the Right side and he puts a shift in for the team tracking back. Oh, and he likes scoring against Chelsea....Bonus!.
Cider spurs
Spu 4 life.. that's a bit unfair to say about Lennon. He always covers walker out of positions runs, and tracks back. As well as runs into space. We were not party to the instructions AVB gave him, or indeed the teams so to be fair... lets see how he goes from here on ... COYS
Block D Spurs
Oh bummer....Missus just bought a free paper back from the shop. The Sunday People. Says Lennon is injured also, now i know i have had a few little pre christmas drinky poos of late, and only saw the Cup vs Spam highlights, but is he really injured?, or is this the reason they are giving the newspaper away for free. Coz' it reports garbage?. Any Info gladly recieved.
Cider spurs
Cider if thats true we might play the slowest side ever in the prem today. So if it is true Lamela must start. Dembele must play. Ideally not fully deep. Capoue Dembele and Eriksen id midfield with Ade up from alone and it appears no choice but Lamela and Chadli wide.
tophobunty1882
logos, does the Eufa cup not count? I think it may be outside Portugal?
ItalianYiddo
We should be looking to get a point today, anything else a bonus.
ItalianYiddo
Italian another sleepless night think about the harshness of the 2nd sacking of AVB in the prem, 2 out of 2.
tophobunty1882
ItalianYiddo it was a final between 2 portuguese teams. AVB had a lot of talent in that squad. anyway, I admit I am exaggerating a bit, I am just glad he is gone, I love spurs and I like us better without him. If Chelsea managed to win champions league after sacking him then I refuse to be drawn into the "omg it's a disaster that we sacked avb" mentality.
logos8
loris, walker, chiriches, dawson, rose, lamela, dembele, capoue, chadli, ade, soldado... ade behind the striker 4-4-1-1... or eriksen instead of ade, but I don't know if he is fit
logos8
logos, to sack him now was mindless, we are a laughing stock. It is going to make the next appointment that much more difficult, look at what Rodgers said, at the end of the season if there was no sign of going in the right direction no one would have disagreed with his dismissal, he may even have walked. To do it now it sends the wrong signals to any prospective coach. Levy messed up big time.
ItalianYiddo
logos it was not a disaster he was not very good, anyone who constantly makes the same mistakes over and over is not good to anyone. This is a board about THFC a football club I and many have supported sonce before AVB was born, he means nothing to me, in football terms the club means everything. Now on to today's game, a very tough task against an improving team. Sherwood probably because of injuries only has two choices to make, Holtby or who in midfield and Ade or Soldado or both up front.
tophobunty1882
Italian most discussions i have seen on TV understood why he was sacked because he had us underperforming. What channel and you watching? Dave?
tophobunty1882
topho...i have never questioned your intelligence, but, how do you know ItalianYiddo is called Dave?. Doesn't sound all that Italian to me. Eric, yes i could see where you're coming from, not Dave.
Cider spurs
i see we are romoured to be interested in Vucinic on loan, I really dont get this one and if this is another Baldrick call then I would accept his resignation now. Why take him when you have Ade who clearly still has it to play very well or Berbatov who wants to leave fulham and is proven in the prem. NO more mistakes in the market for now please.
tophobunty1882
AVB has been sacked, whether it was the right or wrong decision we will find out as our seasons progresses, it might work out and we play better and move up the table or will go wrong and we waste our season and wait for knock on effects. Us fans don't get anything easy, always a tough ride.
Kong
Wenger said: "You need time, yes. "Look, when I said to you at the beginning of the season that when you sign more than three players you take a technical risk, you were all laughing at me, but it is a reality." The Gunners boss continued: "If you look purely at the mathematical problem, yes (it is a surprise), because he has the highest percentage rate of wins historically at the club.

What does he know? The keyboard managers here know best. COYS
ItalianYiddo
Eric Morecombe?
tophobunty1882
Well, half my team vanished when i posted my thoughts. I was hoping to see Lamela and Ade up top with Lennon Right, Chadli Left. For the Eagle eyed members of VS you will notice that when i posted my original team suggestion that i managed to get my post out of the box. You know Cider.....Always thinking outside of the box. Cider for Manager!, Cider for Manager!.
Cider spurs
Cider you would be a step up mate.
tophobunty1882
topho...I heard/read we were talking to the striker from Roma, Boretti/Boletti? anyway third choice for Roma, but i had a quick squizz (sounds a perverted word don't it) on ESPN and his goal returns don't seem too bad over the past seasons. Know nothing about his style, but i have read he is not one for taking on his man prior to shooting. Think we have one of those types already in Soldado. Costa has a release clause of £32 million.
Cider spurs
their is something spooky that we keep getting linked with roma players,marco borrielo,dodo,vucinic-never trusted that baldini bloke from day one
ghulamville
Most games are won or lost in midfield, it can only be one up away at Southampton, Capoue, Holtby, Chadli, Lamela and Dembele in midfield.
ItalianYiddo
Eric Spear.....Coronation street theme music. Now that's an Eric.
Cider spurs
Cider, no more Roma please, very uneasy with Baldini's impact so far, would defo 100% accepted his resignation if it was offered. If he didnt offer it i would get the Cardiff loon chairman to have a word with him.
tophobunty1882
Dodo is supposed to be half tidy is he not?.
Cider spurs
Italian, agreed lets try to at least match them up in midfield.
tophobunty1882
topho...Thing is though have we seen enough of Lamela and co. to question Baldini's ability to spot talent. He comes with a very good reputation and i actually still believe that ALL are signings are good enough just don't think they have been used enough in the right games or run of games.
Cider spurs
dodo,just sums up our situation atm
ghulamville
One thing i will not entertain is players being passengers today. All 11 need to step up to the plate. Get some pride back for the club. lloris said that the team basically gave up against Liverpool. If we lose, let's go down fighting, heck, fighting spirit may just see us win. Got to want it. Not a few, but ALL!.
Cider spurs
Yeah big piles of it
Thats Entertainment
Cider, giving players a run of games is the only way to give them a real chance to prove themselves. Our problem is that we want to build a team and that takes time and games whilst expecting top four placing. As Allardyce said you need a miracle worker to achieve that. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
Christmas game for all the family, ''Tottenham not got a Cluedo'' you move around the board trying to avoid the egg shells, first objective is to avoid the treatment room, this could put you out of the game for any given period, next up if you throw a tantrum, your guaranteed a bonus chance to prove yourself, in front of the other players, with the look-a-like chess players you can move in any direction, trying to collect points as you go, the objective is to make to the centre of the board and onto the pitch, then the fun really starts. But trying to work out who wins is even harder, if you run into the chairman, your out of the game, to date know one has won.
spu 4 life
Question is can Sherwood get them up for this game, or are they just waiting for next coach, the latter me thinks coys!
Thats Entertainment
spu 4 life-I would patent that if I were you,that sounds like a good game
ghulamville
Don't let all the family fall asleep after christmas lunch play Tottenham's answer to musical chairs, it's similar but without the chairs, when the music stops all the players fall on their ass.
spu 4 life
Please God, let us WIN today, is that to much to ask?
spu 4 life
I think someone has already posted similar:

http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11675/9084896/premier-league-carlos-queiroz-expresses-interest-in-tottenham-managers-job
Critical_Spur
Any team news?
Thats Entertainment
This is an interesting take on things that a lot on here have been wanting for a while. So should it be Levy out or ENIC out? Maybe just take all football management away from Levy and employ a full time man/women to run the football side of THFC. Maybe that's supposed to be Baldini's role anyway. Just give him an annual budget to work with, let him select the manager and be the gobetween with the board. Perhaps that http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/news/cowardly-duo-must-avb-tottenham-132224210.html
longtimespur
Today's team - Lloris; Walker, Dawson, Chriches, Rose; Lamela, Dembele, Eriksen, Sigurdsson; Adebayor, Soldado. #THFC
Kong
TEAM: Lloris; Walker, Dawson, Chriches, Rose; Lamela, Dembele, Eriksen, Sigurdsson; Adebayor, Soldado
MAN ON!
Our subs today - Friedel, Capoue, Fredericks, Bentaleb, Holtby, Chadli, Defoe. #THFC
Kong
Our subs today - Friedel, Capoue, Fredericks, Bentaleb, Holtby, Chadli, Defoe. #THFC
MAN ON!
Perhaps that's how it's supposed to be now, then if things go wrong we'll have a choice of 2 to sack, or maybe both.
longtimespur
Kong, you're quick man!
MAN ON!
Today's team - Lloris; Walker, Dawson, Chriches, Rose; Lamela, Dembele, Eriksen, Sigurdsson; Adebayor, Soldado. #THFC
longtimespur
Our subs today - Friedel, Capoue, Fredericks, Bentaleb, Holtby, Chadli, Defoe. #THFC
longtimespur
Very close Man On, you can have the honours next match :)
Kong
man on and kong ditto lol.
longtimespur
COYS!
MAN ON!
Longtimespur, you will have to do better next week. Being 3rd wins you nothing!! :-)
Critical_Spur
That's an attack minded team. Can we score at least one more than the Saints? Please!
MAN ON!
442… Like the old days!
MAN ON!
Where the hell is Lennon?
spurfect one
Ade I'm sure, will be left right and centre. Let's hope he doesn't get in the way……..
MAN ON!
Would be a very intriguing game with that formation/team. No orthodox winger/width. A lot of talent and hope Lamela and Eriksen shine and like to see Ade and Sol to gel. COY!
Critical_Spur
Going for the win then!. hope gamble pays off coys.
Thats Entertainment
spu 4....Cluedo you say......I'm going for Sherwood in the Board room with the Dagger. Poor AVB didn't see it coming.
Cider spurs
I'm still so shell shocked by the weeks events I don't have a clue what to say. Here's hoping the guys give it their all today and we finally start scoring goals. Would be a massive boost for confidence if we can win "going away"! COYS!
jvd
I don't think we will lose today and I think we will score COYS
logos8
Lamela right, Siggy back on the left…… I think Lennon is unfit.
MAN ON!
I see we all copy from @spurs official site.. we all spelt chiriches wrong... lol
longtimespur
critical .....you're right but wrong also... it gets CL next season lol.
longtimespur
I somehow had the feeling that chadli on the left would do better than siggy. Hope it goes well though.
logos8
THFC commentator can't even get it right…… It's spelt VLAD!
MAN ON!
Sorry to go on about AVB, bit his team selectometer would never have computed a team like one selected by Tim. AVB was a fan of ‘powerful’ midfield, but lacked creativity. He would’ve had two monsters in the midfield.

Tim’s team is lightweight in midfield, but has more creative players. I am looking forward to this now!. COYS!
Critical_Spur
Garry Neville: "Spurs going for the 1-2-8 formation... This should be good!"
logos8
Eriksen and Lamela! NICE!!. Plenty of creativity Ade and Soldado. Just the Defensive side of things that look somewhat worrying to me. Think we'll have to "Fat Les" it today....."We're gonna' score one more than you" vindaloo!.
Cider spurs
Kong/MAN ON/longtime .... I'll go for the same team as you guys! lol
Geofspurs
Yikes! Sherwood is a nutter with that line-up. Still, if we win 4-3 i will be happy enough. I cannot believe we did not have a manager in mind when sacking AVB!!
asherthesmasher
Should be an open and entertaining match….. I did say that about the Scouse game though…….
MAN ON!
critical spur it's good to have monsters in the midfield away from home, but playing 4-5-1 at home with 2 defensive midfielders and soldado isolated was quite strange from avb against teams we should have beaten... going away from home with this lineup though, looks a little bit too creative and could be vulnerable at the back. would have felt safer with capoue in there
logos8
Good to see 2 youngsters on the bench as well. I'm not sure it'll be 4-4-2 although that's how the official site has it lined up. That's risky at Saints. No cover in front of back 4 unless Dembele is playing deep and being wasted again. Their set up as 4-2-3-1 so midfield is the battle to win.
longtimespur
logos .... you got the numbers right, but in reverse order ... Lloris is the striker!
Geofspurs
C'mon Lamela and Eriksen shut them boo boy doubters up once and for all.
Cider spurs
Statisticians Opta: 0 - No striker has scored for Tottenham in the Premier League since 27 October. ... this should be the day to stop that trend from developing then
logos8
Definitely think Capoue should be playing ... probably only win 3-0 now.
Geofspurs
That's Levy's team posted right, who did sherwood go with? Blimey I can see us winning this by the odd goal, just backed us to win 6-5.
spu 4 life
going for a 2-2 draw with a goal conceded in the last 10 minutes
logos8
Lloris is a goalhanger. ;-)
Cider spurs
It's going to have to be entertaining to keep me awake ... I did 350kms on the bike today and now I'm feeling weary ... wake me up, Spurs!
Geofspurs
Wow I just saw our goal difference (-6). Unbelievable! Hopefully the entire defensive coaching team was fired along with AVB! I was not aware of a bust up between Freund and AVB. Does anyone have some detail on what it was about? I bet it was about the style we were playing.
jvd
3-3 win to Spurs!
MAN ON!
Cider ... that's what I said ... he just gets confused about the ends! lol
Geofspurs
That might seem like a win!
Geofspurs
jvd…. Compared to City's +31!
MAN ON!
Have now got uneasy feeling about this one, Saints could rip us a new one. Lets get Hoddle in asap.
Thats Entertainment
I said i wanted to see Eriksen sat back a little deeper. hopefully it will see him back to the player we signed. I did call for Eriksen playing further back with one of my first posts today. This Cider for Manager might just have something to it. ;-) Hope he is not pants now, i'll be sacked in the morning. Sacked, but £4 million richer.
Cider spurs
Hoddle in for half-time!
MAN ON!
Sherwood for England!
logos8
@jvd - It was during the 1-0 defeat to Arsenal. AVB and Freund had a bust up about tactics and substations.
mellowchaos
Interesting line up, I like the forward line up, not sure how Dembele is going to be asked to play as no sandro or capoue. Looking forward to this.
Kong
AVB has been on tweeter ''Seen the team today and i have booked myself into rehab''
spu 4 life
Or sooner MAN ON!
Thats Entertainment
As always to any Spurs side taking the field I say good luck and win. To me one word springs to mind, Kamikaze. Prove me wrong Tim. COYS.
ItalianYiddo
best we attack as we only have one player in the forward 6 who can tackle....yep roulette time....put your mortgage on red if it comes up you're a genius...(or are you just a mug punter who gets lucky?)...at least we have our first team defenders available now...no make shift LB or CB....
shedboy2
I was liking the (romantic) idea of 'aving a good old English lad promoted in-house and making the grade. I dont think that any more. Thinking he'll make it - is like blindly hoping every youth player will make it to the 1st team. Not the case. Timaah. I hope we win today and a few more. But take car caretaker. "Well if we don't lose the ball, then we don't need to win it back, innit?".... WHAT? So 99% possession today folks... Timaaah says so.
mellowchaos
Capoue over Dembele for me. dembele effective driving forward but that leaves Eriksen exposed. capoue can play his best football through passing from DM and Defensive tackling. Oversight IMO.
Cider spurs
*take care caretaker.
mellowchaos
maybe sherwoody hopes we'll score first and then we'll switch to 1-5-5 or 1-6-4
logos8
Now yesterday this worked ok, so fingers crossed, once the small x comes up clear add, don't download anything, then go onto full screen http://stvstreams.com/flash-vlc/flash-3
spu 4 life
oh and rightclick on the screen to stretch it out, then your up and running cushty
spu 4 life
Hoddle and Redknapp on Sky. One fell out with Tim the other is Sherwood's mate. Hoddle talking up his tactics, Redknapp looking puzzled…..
MAN ON!
mellowchaos- exactly...why not promote the youth team to play PL footy?...it's the same logic as giving Tim 'a go'...moronic...but tim's trained with the players, some say...really AVB let the youth team guy train the players? ...he's been around them the same as the tea lady...
shedboy2
Obvious Dembele to play as the DMF and Eriksen as the creator. I like the team just hope they "gel". Come on Lads, win one for the Gaffer!
jvd
Up the Spurs!
MAN ON!
Accept for the useless Siggy this is a good line up.

Thank the heavens there is no Lennon,how people rate him i`ll never know.
Fanny adams
And then they score.
Except not accept maybe :)
Fanny adams
Get Fabio Capello in NOW!
MrSpurs
That took long.........
spursnoob
well our cup record was perfect under AVB this season, while our away record was the best in the league.. sherwood could be under serious pressure if this continues. Capoue would be on the pitch under AVB and southampton would not have this much space. IMO this is another bold but somewhat naive attacking lineup with a lot of unfamiliar offensive players who despite a new manager will still need time to gel. lets hope they start to click in the next 75 minutes
Guernman
Deary Deary me.here we go again, bring someone in please.
markyboy40
You have to say that`s a great goal,what a cross.

First Defoe,then Soldado,are you watching Siggy & Lennon?
Fanny adams
great goal
ledleygomez
at least we can score now. COYS naive not to play capoue though...
logos8
Wow that Lamela fella is some player!
cesc la vie
Now let's calm it down. Let's play smart now. Come on Spurs
markyboy40
Capoue has been poor since his injury,Dawson is the main worry.Dawson is a donkey in shorts.
Fanny adams
Wow a first half goal! Wonders never cease. Almost the exact same as the one against West Ham except Soldado cross!
jvd
I think that adebayor and soldado could form a decent understanding, great goal
Guernman
To those that call BAE brain-dead at times... What about this Rose fella, eh?
mellowchaos
that goal in slow motion looks great...
logos8
soldado really needs to be careful with these elbows, that was another one that could have seen red if the player had gone down with the same degree of theatrics that he himself did a second later, not good
Guernman
we haven't had a goal from a striker in the premier league since 27 october. Nice to see ade break the ice open play and from inside the box. but defensively we look vulnerable, weak in midfield. this can go 3-1 for either of us
logos8
Chiriches and his inability to win headrs is a concern. I would love to see Lamela do well but his final ball is not good.
iwear#10
logos8 "this can go 3-1 for either of us" you say

But that`s what football should be all about,not the mundane,boring,eye bleeding system that AVB had us playing.Dawson is a major worry though,we have failed for years because we`ve had players like him on the books for years.Walker,Rose Defoe,lennon are the same,then you got Siggy & Holtby .Good ones go,average stay,it`s not loyalty why they`re still here,this is as good as it gets for them,& it`s as good as it gets for us whilst they`re still here,flattering to deceive most of the time.
Next manager has to come in & say " I will not tolerate average,there will be no carriers" or players like Lloris & Vertonghen will be off & it`s a vicious cycle.
Fanny adams
fanny adams I absolutely agree. just thought that a little bit more balance in midfield would have done us a favor.
logos8
I think we're playing well…………..
MAN ON!
this is certainly a breath of fresh air. yes sherwood might not be the right man considering that after all these years he didn't even bother to take the necessary coaching badges, but if this is a glimpse of what life without avb could be... I like it. I bet any experienced manager would do much better than avb did. He was too stubborn to exile ade when we obviously needed to try different things to improve our scoring drought. Also playing 2 defensive midfielders at home against weaker teams didn't seem to be the traditional spurs way. We played most of the time like chelsea did under him, boring uninspiring football. Hope everyone get's over it and backs up the team. We can still go places.
logos8
Rose is a concern too, slow to react and passing terrible. New manager needs to overhaul defense, keep Vertonghen and can the rest. Maybe Walker will find his form now that we don't employ high line. Chirichies now seems to have no positives, even his man marking and challenges are terrible.
iwear#10
It's going ok, bags of effort, it started 0-0 and at HT it's 1-1, we have the sun behind us and the breeze off the solent with us, we just need to out score them in the second half. Fun to watch.
spu 4 life
Great goal, poor performance so far. Seems to be strict 442 and not the more fluid system we played on Wednesday. Eriksen, Lamela and Siggi not really contributing much and Rose and Walker seem to be constantly out of position. See what Sherwood can do at half-time.
Harry-Kari
iwear#10…… Are you watching a different match to me?
MAN ON!
logos8 TBH I`m a massive fan of Dembele & Eriksson & wouldn`t put Capoue ahead of either.
I`ts refreshing to watch an absorbing end to end game of football concerning Spurs.
IMO we became the worst team to watch in the league,i would have only been happy with that if we were in the top 3 getting results,but we we`re the worst team to watch in 7th or 8th.That`s not acceptable & i was over the moon they sacked AVB before it got ugly,because it was going to get messy.
AVB OUT was fine by me,liked him up until 2 months ago but it couldn`t have carried on the way it was.Gelling of the team & poor support is a lame excuse,give the fans something to sing & cheer about,AVB did not do that.The games became almost unwatchable.

Sherwood is not the answer,next manager has to get the players to please the fans,not the fans there to please the players.Ones paying,ones getting paid,that`s what it all boils down to.Support has to be appreciated,deserved & most importantly has to be inspired.Respect is a 2 way thing
Fanny adams
Good goal from Ade. Our passing sux!
Geofspurs
Take Siggy off,his incompetence is shocking.
Fanny adams
Really!?
MAN ON!
Llalana would never have scored that goal, he did, had a proper holding mf, like Capoue, been playing. Simple.
roforofoSpurs
Fanny adams I hear you. In fairness to avb we are not far away from top 3. 6 points against west ham and newcastle at home and we would have been right up there. our boring football and the stuborness to isolate soldado upfront and exile ade though, was disappointing from avb. the jury is still out for sherwoody. I just hope we don't lose.
logos8
MAN ON, what don't like?
iwear#10
why didn't he bring capoue on for the injured dembele?
logos8
yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees
ledleygomez
wow, well I will say this about sherwood, he is not afraid to make brave calls. bringing on bentaleb ahead of capoue or holtby when we were already losing the midfield.
Guernman
That's not luck that's pressure! Pressure bursts pipes! That's what's been missing intent!
jvd
logos, thats why
ledleygomez
LLORIS LLORIS LLORIS you don't need to come out
ghulamville
WTF was Loris doing?
philbill
Loris is becoming a huge liability. Since Everton he is making *****e desicions. This is very poor.
markyboy40
What the heck is Lloris doing out there again? No mans land! Could never have got to the ball. Foolish decision.
jvd
LLoris has been poor since the head injury
philbill
I blame avb for this goal. lol. for not taking lloris off when he was knocked out by lukaku :D
logos8
football should be about either team winning 3-1? refreshing to watch end to end stuff...mind numbing comments...
shedboy2
is lloris high or something? what's happened to him?
logos8
Our defending is shocking. If I am honest we are not playing great. We definitely need a competent manager
markyboy40
Ha ha ha and then we do that
markyboy40
yeeeeeeeeeees ade again
ledleygomez
first time this season we score 3 in a premier league match. still missing avb?
logos8
could have been 4-2 soldadooooo
logos8
make that 5-2
philbill
cant see the game but sounds as if we arent doing too bad....coys
rovinella62spurs
Soldado's had more chances this game than he's had all season.
Guyver
soldado you curnt
ghulamville
well, this is certainly back to the tottenham way, should be 5 up, likely to concede any moment. bentaleb looks god though :)
Guernman
good, not god, not quite that good
Guernman
3 chances in 3 minutes for soldado
logos8
Spurs are alive, that's for sure
dominiek
Im so disappointed for Soldado, he needs one of those. adebayour's work rate is great.
iwear#10
would like to have a two goal cushion since we are due to concede again any moment ;) still, this is entertaining
Guernman
78 minutes and we are beginning to go defensive, not a good idea. We need to continue to attack.
jvd
vertonghen please come back ASAP. chiriches is a liability.
iwear#10
Ciriches positioning is poor at times, he needs to sharpen up
philbill
Workrate of Soldado was great, too bad he didn score
dominiek
FFS catch the ball Lloris, this punching is *****
philbill
5min extra?
dominiek
Yesssssssssssss!!!
dominiek
yes , fantastic well pleased
ledleygomez
Ade the missing man..............
Crazyspursfan
Are we leading?
neymar
good win...3 points ......kinda brave of sherwood.....at least its better footy....coys
rovinella62spurs
Heckuva morale boosting win boys. If we can get Ade and Soldado flowing up front this could be something. I actually am excited to see this lineup going forward with Sandro or Capoue sitting instead of Dembele. Lots more options now and Sherwood should be given credit, if we had drawn or lost everyone wud be slagging off him for his team selection. Huge win, COYS.
YankeeSpur23
Thank you! COYS! What a week!
MAN ON!
Well, now that AVB's gone, the strikers can get back to scoring. Ade with 2 goals, has more goals from open play in the league than all our strikers combined. it's December 22nd....
Guyver
get in there, when you attempt to be positive you have the chance to create chances and win games........get in there..............................................................
tophobunty1882
Sherwood needs a BIG shout today, who else would have brought on Bentelab for Dembele when he got injured?

Next shout should go to Bentelab himself who had a fantastic debut.

Last and certainly not least Adebayor who won use the game!
stu_u2k
I HAVE A SMILE ON MY FACE !!! After all the shi7 all of us have gone through this week, we have come out winners, I know it's only one game, but boy did we need that, BENTALAB looks a good young player and Ade when on form is just one hell of a handful, we dug in and got those 3pts, well done to our club.
spu 4 life
Great game today and great performance, we dominated the second half and could have scored more. Lloris didn't need to come out for their second goal but made a good save after. Soldado should have scored but showed great link up okay with ade, ade great performance, ran the show. Didn't think our midfield would contain them but well done and welcome bentelab, great debut, very assured. 3 points COYS
Kong
Southampton really shouldn't have been singing that we are ***** without bale lol!!!
spursnoob
The striker we have needed all season has been playing with the youngsters... Sherwood for England!
logos8
dead right Man On. what a week...
tophobunty1882
AVB OUT! ;-)
MAN ON!
Soldado just needs one to go in and then the flood gates will open. He is so close right now its not even funny. Id be willing to bet he catches fire soon and starts banging in the goals. Great effort from him up front today, even put in a great slide tackle and did pick up another great assist on the Ade goal. I know he was signed to score but if not doing that at least he certainly is contributing in other areas. Bentaleb looked pretty quality i must say. Confident and composed and has some size on him too which i like. Good left foot as well
YankeeSpur23
Where did bentaleb come from? damn.
logos8
AVB OUT! :-P
logos8
Soldado has not had the service until today so who can blame him for being rusty?
stu_u2k
Lallana totally murdered Chiriches today!But what a performance by Adebayor!Man of the match for me.When he wants he can be a different player.And Bentaleb;neat passes and touches!COYS
SilwalYid
yuo have to admit Sherwood has a big pair of balls. jury is still out though.
logos8
reports from Italy suggest that AC Milan are considering Sherwood for the managerial role instead of AVB... neah, just kidding :p
logos8
WOW, i commented we had no chance today, maybe i should always be so negative lol. The most pleasing thing was Ade and Soldado, their link up play can cause teams problems.
spurfect one
Damn, I'm a soft tart! Nearly had me in tears there Ade!
MAN ON!
That`s what i`m talking about when it comes to inspiring the fans.

I was inspired,well done lads great performance.

Shame Adebayor only plays well when he has a point to prove,a real shame.Does it every time.
Fanny adams
I have to say that's the most honest after match interview I have ever seen, when Tim spoke.
spu 4 life
Finally We score 3 goals in a single match! :)
SilwalYid
It was refreshingly honest……...
MAN ON!
First Spurs game I have really enjoyed since Harry I think.

Give it to Sherwood!
stu_u2k
Sherwood's interview was interesting, saying he doesn't want to keep the managers seat warm so it's full time or nothing. Doesn't know who is in charge for the next game but wants it sorted soon. Great to be happy after winning, long may it continue.
Kong
sherwood seems to be the opposite of AVB... can be kamikaze but I must say that having such confidence in bringing on bentaleb surely points out that he must know a thing or two about football... I don't know if he'll ever be a manager, a good manager for that matter, but I bet he is a good coach especially for the young ones. He did well with rose, walker, townsend, caulker, and now this new face that is probably going to be a regular in the first team someday. congrats sherwoody, wish you well in case you leave in the morning, and ffs take your coaching badges if you really want to be a proper manager. If he stays, I won't mind and I won't wine as long as we score more goals than we scored against avb these past 16 epl matches.
logos8
I Can't remember a spurs side so good away from home and so crap at home.
spurfect one
I love Fanny !!
tophobunty1882
What ever the Boxing Day game brings, I am looking forward to seeing us play again, that's 3 of the 9 needed for this season's year end. I am SO BLOODY HAPPY...
spu 4 life
The way ade plays allows soldado to be in the box more when before soldado would be out wide and no one in the box. Everyone played well, siggy and lamela did more defensively so nothing spectacular but did their jobs. Very good.
Kong
Party time, enjoy the 3 points everyone, just the start.
Kong
"I don't want it for 10 minutes, I want it for long-term or not at all." that sounds a bit disappointing. sounds like an ultimatum, I thought it would have been nice of him to help us until we find a new manager but if that's his approach to it, I don't know...
logos8
Lets be happy with the points, effort and style of play but lets not get carried away. There were some fragility in the centre and we paid for it and with the attacking style today we got away with it against better teams we would not. However, Sherwood wanted the win and he was courageous to go for it but long term we will need to get a better balance.

With injury players to come back, Vertonghem, Sandro, Lennon and Townsend I think it is fair to say if we get the balance right we can salvage this season and go on a good run and build on it for next season, as long as we get the rigth manager.

Sherwood knows what we want whether he is ready to deliver over a long season I am still not sure, too much of a gamble imo but for sure we need a manager that understands our history and way of playing but also who can be rithless as well.

Ade was very good again to day but Soldado is a worry to me, how many chances yet he was brought in for his clinical finishing, he needs a goal or two to get his head right.

Overall happy with the points and effort and the way we didn't give in or let our heads go down. Well done everyone.
WorldPeace
We worked hard, and got the points.. Ade is back.. now we need sandro MF with Verts CD and a 4321 or 4411 shape, and we are good to go..
Block D Spurs
Well done lads, we need to really take more of our chances, Saldado was unlucky but could of done better. Well played Ade. Concern who plays Boxing Day. So many injuries.
markyboy40
I Love it, when a football manager is NOT 100% happy, especially after a win. ;-) "Well done Tim and Co'.....Proper Football fans either stand, shout or sing...or a combination of two or more".
82spursdebut
MOM ... Ade. If holtby had played instead of Lamela it's 5-1! Bring on the next game! COYS
Geofspurs
spu 4 life that's the thing I like about sherwood, even if you don't agree with him, even if he says stupid things, at least you know he is honest, no bull krrap
logos8
Steffen has coaching badges, he could be listed as Interim Europa Coach and Tim listed as prem Interim Coach and in the interim we could see how they go, confused?
spu 4 life
Really happy with that win, merry Christmas all, hoho coys
Thats Entertainment
One game at a time sweet Jesus! That was a good game, but I'm still a bloody nervous wreck. Tottenham, what do you do to me?
MAN ON!
Very very good result. I have to admit I was surprised by the team formation, the performance and the result. Credit to Sherwood and the players. It was brilliant but there are glimmers of hope. I can forgive the errors and moments of panic today as it must have been quite a shock for the players to be told to go out there, be brave, play, get forward and attack. After 18 months go constipated football it will take a while for the players to get into this new mindset. Today we took one step forward. We need to put a series of steps forward together now. Who knows.....
SpuriousLife
In the interTim………..
MAN ON!
Thoroughly enjoyed the game especially the result. Appreciated Lallana's goal and assist in a losing effort as I have him in my FF team! Really liked Ade's interview. Obvious that AVB was punishing him for his actions but in effect he was also punishing the team. Wasn't smart to carry it for so long as from his performance in last two games it is obvious that he has been training and keeping fit. I think this will really boost the confidence levels of our players.
jvd
One game does not make a swallow, I told her that.
spu 4 life
I saw this line up and I was confident that we would score goals. Even after going a goal down I wasn't too concerned. Vertonghen will improve defense and deeper line will suit Walker better. Left defense wasn't a target today but I we must target a experienced left defender. If we can also upgrade Dawson then great but I'm wary of too many defensive changes midseason. With a solid defense this team can really challenge next season.
iwear#10
I've spent a week talking us out of a win today and I'm very happy I was wrong. All is not lost but still nothing won. We'll see. Up the Lilywhites!
MAN ON!
I thought Sherwood was also good in his interview. Made it plain he wants the job on a permanent basis. Since Levy has no plan in place obviously I wonder if he will give it to Sherwood. Would be good for the youth players as a few of them will undoubtedly get a look in.
jvd
SpuriousLife that was hilarious. constipated football. lmao
logos8
Sherwood says "I don't want it for a short while but for the long term". Smart guy he knows that Levy is quick to sack so any deal is going to be long GM with a buy out. Give the guy credit he isn't stupid.
jvd
Well I've certainly had the sh *its this past week!
MAN ON!
Can we have more please sir?
jvd
MAN ON! sometimes looking on the negative side can be a positive, my electrician told me that, when he blew the lights.
spu 4 life
Adebayor won us that game and therein lies the problem. he is an immensely talented player but needs the right motivation, being isolated for months clearly works but is hardly a long term strategy. Sherwood rolled the dice big time, but the result came more from adebayor having a point to prove than the tactical approach of the manager - although the substitutions were brave and paid off. It is a concern that Sherwood is pushing Levy into a corner though, he desperately wants the job but he is not willing to take a trial period. For someone with zero experience that is unfortunate. If he is as good as he thinks then he should be willing to take the season as interim manager with a view to winning the position if he delivers. He is entitled to play it this way of course, and perhaps that shows the kind of balls the job needs... not sure what to make of sherwood, but today certainly did him no harm
Guernman
jvd I don't know considering it would be his first try as a manager at top level it would have been nice to say that he wants to help Tottenham and he would be happy to be interim until we find someone else or until we decide that he is good enough.
logos8
What crisis. 6 points off 1st, 5 points off 2nd and 3 points off 4th. Enjoyable watch today, I've mentioned Bentaleb before, he's been outstanding for the lads. Just think of him and Carroll in midfield in a couple of years time. Not sure about Sherwood as manager for the long haul going forward and he wants the job now and not just till we find a new manager. Can't blame him for that, be a kick in the teeth if he produces good results regularly and then gets relegated to 21's and youth again. COYS.
longtimespur
It was so funny to the Ade's goal celebration jig when showed from the rear camera. It was the look on the referee's face that was priceless.... I think he will be trying that out when he goes home!
Critical_Spur
Sherwood was brave I have to say. With the starting line-up and the subs, he did show us his balls……… If you know what I mean "Arry!
MAN ON!
"constipated football" nice one SeriousLife
iwear#10
Chiriches is not a CB. Rather see him at LB instead of Rose when verts returns. Looking much more promising and it's so good to have all those options sitting on the bench!
Geofspurs
Adebayor is a Gentle giant.....requires handling with understanding, care and compassion. Good to see he has now got two scoring feet.....the new training ground has its uses after all. Time to Pactice defensive and OFFensive corners.
82spursdebut
Would they let us play WBA and Stoke away from home ... we could let them score the first goal!
Geofspurs
That's when we need whatsux, he would have posted the Ade dance, watching Chris Foy looking on was priceless, top stuff critical spur. COME ON SWANSEA.
spu 4 life
Great result and who is that boy who replaced Dembele? What an excellent player that boy is. COYS!
James1
what this proves is that avb is perfect for italian football and sherwood for the England manegerial job. Sherwood for England! lol
logos8
Oh dear, first Crouch, now Ade, when will we get in a dance instructor for our players so they can celebrate with style. LOL
chrishove123
No half measures with Spurs. Start the season with a fantastic defensive record, the defence goes to pot but then we start looking like goal scorers! Defence looked shaky today but we were close on scoring 5 or 6. I'm gonna have to give up this footballing lark, it's doin' me bleeding' nut in!
MAN ON!
WorldPeace I'm a bit tired of hearing people say "against better teams". Against better teams we would play differently and maybe even set up differently. For goodness sake WE WON THE FREAKING GAME! Can you not just accept that fact? Be pleased about it and not take a winning team down.....please?
jvd
Great result and all credit to Sherwood and the team. Not totally convincing but great to see us attacking with intent again. 2 very poor defensive errors for the Southampton goals and Walker seemed far too casual today even for him, but have to enjoy Ade's goals and the Soldado near hat-trick! As Sherwood said, we were poor in the first half but improved after his half-time chat and loved the fact that Ade said Sherwood had told him essentially "you know how to play football so go out and play".
Harry-Kari
of course our midfield wouldn't have survived against better teams, but maybe against better teams we would play different players. what I know is that even against teams like hull and cardiff we haven't look so threatening in front of goal so there was definitely improvement when it comes to attack. Another thing is that players look much more relaxed on the pitch since avb left. Constipation gone and we should thank Levy for that. hehe
logos8
Case of Champers for Sherwood! Share a bottle or two with Ade, and the boys from WHL………! My brain hurts….. In a nice kinda way.
MAN ON!
Hey, Southampton are a pretty good team…...
MAN ON!
we haven't won a match against better teams anyway btw
logos8
One swallow, one Spurs!
MAN ON!
So good to see a "proper" game of football! Both teams going for it with the buses in the car park, not on the pitch. Sure, we looked fragile at the back at times, Rose not back to his best, but to be fair Southampton know how to attack and Lallana was superb. Feeling a bit better now and will probably enjoy my Christmas dinner!
Dennis Silverton
Come on the Swans!
MAN ON!
My apologies to WorldPeace. I didn't mean for my comment to come across so strong. I'm just done in this week.
jvd
Here you go Spu 4 Life:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBHnzDaJYFw
Critical_Spur
I thought Foy was gonna book him!
MAN ON!
Foy should have joined in with the dancing,
Kong
For me kind of confirms AVB was not ready for the Spurs role, while Sherwood probably not the long term answer it gives us a glimpse into what the team is capable when everyone fully understands what there job is, it also shows the potential manager how playing overly complicated formations completely screws the flow of the game and the natural individual talent our players have. Southampton are a good team, who will create a lot of chances although Lloris has to take fault for the 2nd goal (and whats the deal with his continuous punching?) so today was a great win, with a number of decent and semi decent chances created. Lets build on this and start climbing the league. COYS. Tip of the hat to Bentaleb the guy looked cool as a hindu cow when he came on.
coys1717
Yes, well played Bentaleb...
MAN ON!
Foy's reaction is very funny... he actually stops to watch what he's on about "Let's see what we have here... no... I can do better"
logos8
or maybe he was just keeping an eye on potential offensive gestures...
logos8
Oh come with us, abide with us, our Lord Emmanuel……. Sorry, couldn't help myself.
MAN ON!
Adebayor playing well just to prove AVB just shows what a 24 carat (unt he really is.
I`m not getting sucked into this Adebayor played well lark,he did it for his own personal gratification.

No player on what he earns shopuld turn up & put in a display just to make someone else look the bad guy.Adebayor does not fool me,can be a great player,but only ever on his terms.Almost like Adebayor is holding fans,clubs & managers to ransom with his play when it suits me attitude.I can see right through that bloke & he don`t fool me.
Adebayor thinks he`s proving people wrong,i think Adebayor is just proving people right.
Fanny adams
What a *****er Ade! How dare you score 2 great goals and be MOM!
MAN ON!
I can live with mistakes and imperfection. What I want is to enjoy watching my team. Even after Wednesday's defeat. I had a smile, as I saw a spark. Today, even though I wondered if we would blow it, I really enjoyed the brilliance and the *****e. That is what Ive been brought up with supporting Spurs and though its no good for the blood pressure, at least I wont die of boredom...
oxfordspur
Great entertainment value for the neutral. As hoddle said it wasnt rocket science sherwood just stuck 2 upfront and told them to go for it. There was no control there and we will win some, draw some and lose some playing like that. And plenty of goals will go in at both ends. Still the fans are happy with gung-ho as am I to a point. Will it bring about a high enough win percentage to win trophies and qualify CL football? Highly unlikely but happy to go with the flow and enjoy the ride.
StillRickyVilla
Tim Sherwood now has the best PL win percentage of any Spurs manager………...
MAN ON!
Sherwood has already got a 50% win ratio.... lol
longtimespur
!00% in the PL!
MAN ON!
StillRickyVilla, I think your only half right. We were much more in control in the second half……..
MAN ON!
Fanny adams, I still don't have faith in Ades commitment to THFC but on the day, I have to give credit where it's due… Well played AE.
MAN ON!
SRV, scoring under a goal a game would not have won us anything either. Relying on dodgy penalties and wonder strikers (without Bale) while playing boring, dysfunctional, morale sapping football is an aimless long term strategy.
Guyver
Was it another new tactic? I can't remember Walker making his overlapping runs much today. Or was it because Lamela was on and not Lennon?
longtimespur
I will also praise Walker and Eriksen. Both played very well. Rose improved in the second half and was impressive going forward.
MAN ON!
Man on - there were chances flying about at both ends. As I said great entertainment for the neutral and casual fan though.
StillRickyVilla
longtimespur, It could be tactical re: Walker, as even on wed with Lennon he was not as forward running as usual. Also with Ade working right across the forward line the wide spaces were utilised differently.
MAN ON!
StillRickyVilla, I won't be convinced by one game, but I thought it was an improvement from Wednesday.
MAN ON!
Srv- agree....think the lunatics have taken over the asylum on here though...
shedboy2
I enjoyed it and I'm certainly not a casual fan….
MAN ON!
What's mad about enjoying Spurs winning. Surely to not enjoy the win is crazy!
MAN ON!
MAN ON! We should give Ade credit,but also should not be so naive with his intentions.To play well so you look good & AVB looks the bad? Adebayor is as low as they come,the guy is pure scum.
Fanny adams
I give up…. Spurs are s**t and I'm a f*****g lunatic! Cheers… Happy christmas you ungrateful bar.stards! Goodnight, I'm off to enjoy the rest of the evening with my fellow inmates…….. We couldn't be more sane if we tried.
MAN ON!
Man on - we all enjoyed it because we won. In a game like that playing that way we will lose 3 2 just as many times as we win 3 2. If thats what we want then fine. But forget about any plan to get to the top. We got our tottenham back - end to end, flair football but ultimately inconsistent. If thats what we all want then fine happy to go with the flow and enjoy the wins as they come along.
StillRickyVilla
No matter how hard I try I still can't predict the future. So I'm gonna take each game as it comes.
MAN ON!
Great win today, still look realy fragile at the back, but as long as we score more than they do we will always win. Great to see Ade back on form. Maybe he's been offered a new contract if he performs. LOL Soldado, do we keep faith with him and carry on playing him as first striker in front of Defoe the way Chelski did with Torres? Once he gets a couple of Prem goals in open play under his belt will he suddenly release the flood gates and go aon an amazing goal scoring run as he can, or will he continue to misfire? He is looking good overall, brilliant pass to Ade so I think he should keep playing, he doesn't look as if he has lost confidence at all the way he is playing. Still not happy with Sherwood being in charge but pleased for him and the players for the win. It was a great substitution to bring on the boy for his debut, he looked pretty good out there, well composed and not overawed by things at all. I don't care who we play a win is a win and it has to be celebrated, especially coming back like that against a team with the capabilities of Southampton.
chrishove123
To me it's simple, I'll slag off people when their bad and don't make an effort, and praise them when they are good. After all I don't recall Ade ever causing any serious harm to me or my loved ones.
MAN ON!
Fanny - Ade gives half his money away. He houses, feeds and educates 100's of orphans and has donated £Millions to charitable works so there is a lot to the guy. His delay when he signed from City was over him insisting they donate £50k/week to charity as he was taking a pay cut. Brave of Sherwood to bring on Defoe instead of Capoue at the end.
Halfmoon
Hopefully with Adebayor playing good (that will be 6 games in last 2 seasons)Levy sells the man in January, what a prima donna , thought Bentaleb looked solid when he came on, feel for Soldado, he can't buy a goal at the moment, same for Lamela has some good vision on passes but still looks off the pace in the PL. It's back to the Spurs of old, entertaining but who knows who will end up winning.
CanUkSpur
Man on - agree with that. Except that is exactly sherwoods position. No pressure on him he can afford to just go for it. If we bang in a load of goals he gets the job. If he fails he can just go back to his old job. Perfect situation for him. No pressure. No responsibility. No need to think of future. But you are right lets enjoy the win and just see what happens. Hoddle was practically begging for the job in the studio. I would love him to come in.
StillRickyVilla
Oh well no Malky Mackay for us as Tan has been persuaded not to sack him. I did say maybe Sherwood will shock us all and be a great manager. I really do not care who takes over as long as they can utilise the squad to it's best and win us games. If it happens to be Sherwood then so be it, I will back him as much as I backed AVB. As manager he deserves to be backed until the end. Only problem with Sherwood is he doesn't have his badges. How long does it take to get the badge/s he needs and can he coach us in the Prem without for the time that it takes for him to get qualified?
chrishove123
chrishove123, for me, this felt like Soldado's first game of the season. I don't count the previous 16 games because under AVB, the system wasn't set up for creating high quality chances for the striker.
Guyver
CanUKSpur, "It's back to the Spurs of old, but who know's who will end up winning? BUT it does make it an exciting ride doesn't it. That is the one thing Arry brought us was one hell of an exciting ride and maybe we will be in for another wild ride if Sherwood stays even until the end of the season.
chrishove123
I haven't changed my mind about Tim, nor Ade, and Hoddle is still my choice to take care asap. I'm just high on the win, after a week of doom and gloom. I'm certainly not being shortsighted but I'll always take a win, 2-3 or otherwise.
MAN ON!
Man On and SRV Yes Sherwood is in a pretty unique position for an interim/potential future manager. As you say no pressure as such on him, he's in pretty much a win win situation. If he can do it good luck to him. I want stability and a clear plan for us ASAP and if it means Sherwood as manager/coach for the rest of the season so be it.
chrishove123
Chris 123.. that is the big question... Qualification as a manager of international status.....Hoddle can show him the requirements of management till end of the season.
Block D Spurs
chrishove123… Agreed. I'd much rather the excitement than be bored senseless…….. I'd be more concerned about todays game if we'd won by 1, but were boring and lucky…..Still just 3 points!
MAN ON!
where are the buddies?
tophobunty1882
well we went forward, was a good result whichever way you look at it, so many injuries, scored 3, won way from home against a very decent side. Ade can play we all know it. Vlad ball watches, but is great apart from that, Dawson is Dawson, get Verts back, Bentelab didnt look as much off first team football as the 30 million man. Horses for Italians.
tophobunty1882
Personally i could not give a crap how much Ade gets payed or what he does with his money. All i care about is what he gives us on the pitch. If he can perform like that for the most part we have a player who can be unplayable and someone totally different to what we already have. Of course the big question is can he keep playing well for a consistent period?
spurfect one
If we had Martinez since pre-season we would be right up there.
tophobunty1882
Loved the Spurs fans turning to the Saints fans and singing "There's only one Harry Redknapp"
matt hoten
Ade will play like he did in his first season with us. 2nd season he was late arriving, got sent off at Arsenal, had African cup and then effectively got banned by AVB. He's our best player. Just play him. Soldado and Lamela were £56 Million totally wasted.
Halfmoon
One swallow doesn`t make a summer.
One good game by Adebayor in 2 seasons doesn`t make him a great Spurs player.
Tell him we`ll double his wages in the summer then he`ll be good for the rest of the season,then tell him it was a joke & he can jog on.Disgrace of a footballer & human being.
Fanny adams
Matt I guess with your recent posts in mind the last few weeks thats as good as it gets for you? Is it sad that we won?
tophobunty1882
Halfmoon Ade played well i think 3 times last season. If he wants to he is borderline world class, what makes him want to? for me it's down to the manager to find that sweeet spot. Yes money is up there, but its not only about money, he gets it for doing FA. So what makes hm play so well getting the same money as when he doesnt play?
tophobunty1882
Chris, how do you see Sherwood being in a win-win?
tophobunty1882
IF ade can play like that for the rest of the season then great, I am sure he can play consistently now he can get games. Levy needs to make a decision now and appoint a manager whether that is Sherwood or someone else. We are still in the mix and would be good for the players to have a manager for the rest of the season.
Kong
listened to the game on the radio today while at work. Looking forward to the highlights tonight! No disrespect to Defoe but i'd like a few more games with ade and soldado up front together. I like Sherwood's approach, but it's still early doors. Very happy with the win! COYS
mountainyid
Topho - Last season was very disrupted for Ade and then AVB wrote him off. Big mistake I think and played a big part in AVB getting sacked. Hopefully now Ade will reproduce his first season form. It was Fanny Adams calling him scum and a disgrace as a human being I was replying to. Ade definitely doesn't deseve that with all the good work he does.
Halfmoon
A lot of positives today. Apart from the obvious, i.e., the result, I am genuinely pleased for EVRYONE at the lane. BUT, I am not getting carried away....yet!.

A very brave selection by Tim and it paid off. The defence is still very shaky/all over the place, but it is a make shift line. Rose, whilst pleased to see him back, made fair few mistakes and almost cost us a few times. Though being next to Chiriches would not have helped matters. A well done to Ade, he put in an immense shift. The breakaway 1st goal was absolutely class. Ade started and finished. And to think there were only Soldado and Ade in the final 3rd and that sublime cross from soldado to Ade when the latter was surrounded by THREE defenders.....only Ade could’ve made the connection!.

I think it fair to say that our midfield was like a large sieve as Saints got through it too easily at times. Siggy for me was a disappointment and more so the fact that he was not replaced. Lamela did see a lot of the ball did some good work with it, but failed to make the telling pass for the end product.

After the defeat against WHU, I was pleasde that Soldado was replaced by Defoe and kept their defence in check. Only 2 games for Tim, too early to assess. I think he is here until January window and we’ll have to see if Levy opts for on-the-cheap-Tim option. COYS!
Critical_Spur
Great to see more attacking intent and Eriksen play. However, against an avg west ham and again today we looked soooo open and vulnerable. Need a DM in there and No more Dawson for me. Great to see a win though. COYS
Windlespur
Oh, and it goes to show you don't need a thick red book to decide your formation/team/subs. I noticed Saints manager + assistant referring to their bible!
Critical_Spur
Halfmoon, i tend to agree ref Ade, he is sure not easy to work out but scum/ i think probably far from it. World class? very capable, just how do you get into his head to get it out of him? I am not sure how but he is where we want him to be right now, keep him this way and we improve.
tophobunty1882
stillricky, exactly, sherwood could afford to roll the dice today, I doubt he would choose that team/those subs if his job was on the line if we lost. we did not control that game in any way, but we did create plenty of opportunities and thanks to adebayor showing up with a point to prove we got the win. it still leaves plenty of questions about sherwood's ability week in week out and what do you do with a problem like manu
Guernman
I for one loved the energy we exhibited. The initial speed of the game was phenomenal. It showed me that these players have the talent to play well, something I had begun to doubt. I agree with Sherwood in that it is important that these players know who they manager is. They need a voice and a vision which has a singular and stable voice. It will do no good to be listening to Sherwood for 2 or 3 or 4 weeks and then have someone come in and start saying something different. It is therefore imperative that someone be chosen very quickly. My gut tells me Sherwood would not be a bad choice. But I was wrong on AVB so I won't put money on it.
jvd
guern, we won and scored 3 away from home, where is everyone? where are all the AVB supporters? the spurs supporters are here. Sherwood? why should he be any good or get the job? he's never done it before and isnt qualified for it.
tophobunty1882
Thought Southampton were disappointing today, I was expecting better from them. Hoewver if they had Suarez they would have put 5 past us, defense shaky, Rose not good enough, Cliriches out muscled and weak in the air, thank goodness Dawson was back. Adeybayor superb, made the difference.Should beat WBA and Stoke and lose to Man U and Arsenal
matt hoten
No offence, but some of you guys just sound like you are desperately trying to justify & cling positions you have committed to in recent weeks, rather than actually offering any sincere opinion. No sane Spurs fan goes into the next few games full of confidence, with a manager as untested and inexperienced as Sherwood. But what Sherwood has done, has blown away the notion (excuse) that the reason we weren't looking good going forward, was because of "injuries" or "gelling". The fact that before today, we were the only team in the premiership who had not scored 3 goals in a single game, is VERY significant. Same with Adebayor, is it as simple as him not trying under AVB (he was ok at the end of last season) or is it possibly a case of every striker struggles when playing to the tactics AVB promotes. Will Soldado suddenly start looking like a decent striker? If he does, is that coincidence? Is Soldado.. "just trying to prove AVB wrong as well?". How did Drogba perform after AVB was sacked for Chelsea?
Guyver
Great result today, and a cracking game ... got no fingernails left. Felt for Soldado with those misses, but also, what a cross for Ade's first goal. I would love to get carried away with this budding partnership, but like Big C and others here, I just don't trust Ade. Having said that, he was great today.

As for Sherwood? Well, I was watching with an eyebrow raised when he put Bentaleb on, especially with Capoue and Holtby on the bench, but that boy took his chance and played well. Fair play to Sherwood as that call showed balls.

Hopefully Lamela can get more games as he showed glimpses today of what he's about, and he's not one to shirk the defensive side of his game either. Lloris looks short on confidence lately, and the Dawson/Chiriches partnership looks dodgy! Get well soon Jan!
SpursEagle
First of all delighted with the three points. To be fair when I saw the lineup I wouldn't have put a pound on us getting one let alone three. Still think it was a kamikaze selection but we got away with it, in my defence I was expecting a better Southampton side I thought they were poor or did we make them look poor? Ade made the difference today, I said months back that i could see him working well with Soldado. He worked his ass off today and on his day he's as good as any nothing new, we experienced it when he was playing for a contract. Do I trust him to do it week in week out? No. Sherwood, would I trust him till the end of the season? No. He will come unstuck more often than get it right, it will make it interesting, definitely not boring but if we finish outside top six would we be happy with it?
ItalianYiddo
Reports in holland suggesting we have approached Louis van gaal, apparently levy was in holland today.
Kong
I feel the same as some on here, I am not getting carried away. Do I trust Ade to be committed and that much effort in every week, No. Do i trust Sherwood to handle everything every week No. I think the positives out of today imo is that we can play football, although today we got away with our fragile midfield, we will not every week.

I think Vlad shows us he is not ready for number one spot in CD. I expect him to be beaten in the air as he already showed us that is one of his weaknesses in previous games, hence why I feel he could not play with Vertonghen, we need Dawson's ability of heading the ball. But today he showed us he can be caught out by a pacey clever player, so while I think he will be a good CB he is not as good as Vertonghen and needs to work hard.

I think we missed Sandro as out defenses was not protected, but we got away with it today.

Lamela is a long way of imo but he worked hard trying to get the ball, I think he preferred the open space he had today, something we haven't had with the inverted wing play we employed. Happy with the points and effort and performance to a degree but lets not get carried away
WorldPeace
Spot on WorldPeace
ItalianYiddo
Topho, I see him as being in a win win situation because if he does really well, there is the distinct probability that he will get the job he wants, if he doesn't get it, he can always go back to what he was doing with the youth squad, so it's not as if he actually has anything to lose. I have a feeling that he may well get the nod for the rest of the season just to see how he does for next season.
chrishove123
Italian, I have been right with you shouting for that Ade Soldado combination, and now it looks as if it is going to work if Ade can stay motivated possibly by the thought of a new/better contract.
chrishove123
chrishove, such a frustrating character Ade, on his day unplayable on another day a waste of space, when you are on £190K a week the very least you should bloody try every week. From your keepers perspective what do you make of Lloris?
ItalianYiddo
this is turning into a self justification board, a number of people seem more interested in justifying their own position over the success of spurs, it's sad. PS I dont see anyone getting carried away, as a club we have been much worse this season that just about everybody in the world thought and we have not turned the corner yet, it's time for everyone to pull together for the sake of the club not themselves.
tophobunty1882
Topho: "this is turning into a self justification board, a number of people seem more interested in justifying their own position over the success of spurs, it's sad."

The saddest thing is, you are referring to yourself here. It's exactly what you are trying to do right now. Exactly what you always try to do ...
SpursEagle
Eagle, please explain I am interested. Happy to expand on this with you fully. Over to you.
tophobunty1882
Chris, I think that's fair enough, the only potential lose in here is if he takes on a job to much for him as his first and fails quickly and badly it could tarnish him. But i think it probably is a win win largely you as you describe. I dont think he is the best choice available to the seasons ends but if we win the next two hom games and dont lose against United, if he is in charge for them and we create plenty I think it would be difficult to say no to him. I think Baldini should also be questioned here and I am not sure I would want to finding players for us in the Jan window.
tophobunty1882
Well done Tim Sherwood, is he the man to take us to the next level...no idea but at least he is trying to play positive football. I still believe AVB was wrongly sacked, more to the timing and lack of a plan. Ade has a point to prove so he is doing what he always does, will he continue this urgency and his form until the end of the season, I do hope so but I won't hold my breath. I suppose the most positive of things about Tim Sherwood as head coach is that he knows the youth very well, Bentalab came on yesterday and played very weel, full of confidence and composure. At least Sherwood has the balls to play the young guns, you'll never know unless you try so full credit to Tim and applause to young Bentalab. Soldado and Ade can work together, Lamela needs a confidence boost for Christmas and hey ho Tim sees something in Siggy too!!!
Very please with 3 points, back in the mix and with a relatively good fixture list over Christmas who knows!! Top marks to the away support again yesterday, awesome!!!
yiddyboy
Italian, I'm not too sure with lloris. The only thing I can think of is that the bang on his head HAS affected him, but not in the way most people are saying. I think it is more down to physical self preservation. It is similar to when Cec got smashed in the head, his performance dropped for a while. maybe if Lloris wore something like Cech does then that would give him the protection he may need and then he would be able to do what he did before. I had a couple of bangs in the head, nothing quite bad enough to knock me out, (not on the pitch anyway) But it did make me hold back slightly when I went in for a ball and as such my performance suffered until I could jumpmthat particular pchological hurdle of I don't want to get hurt again because it may be worse next time.
chrishove123
 

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