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Do we need another striker?

Do we need another striker?

With renewed talk of our looking to sign former star and rebel, Dimitar Berbatov, it seems there may be conflicting ideas between Chairman and "Head Coach"…

Yesterday we read that Daniel Levy was attracted by the prospect of picking up Berbatov for £1.5m from Fulham, Whilst Tim Sherwood, claims we don`t need another striker, despite selling Jermain Defoe. Sherwood, has indicated that he has other options in attack such as Erik Lamela and Nacer Chadli, should anything happen to Soldado or Adebayor, whilst in Harry Kane, he has a star of the future. Question is, who is right and of course is Sherwood telling the truth when he says he is happy with the players he has?

Berbatov, who will be 33 on the 30th of this month, is clearly an artist of the game and one of the best players in our modern history, however would his signing be a step forward or backwards? Certainly a short term solution that not only covers for the loss of Defoe, but perhaps allows Harry Kane to get regular football elsewhere, should the opportunity arise.

With an ability to play as the out and out striker or a deeper role, you feel he is a natural option to cover or compliment Adebayor or Soldado and although you know you wouldn`t be getting a workhorse, you can bet his vision and quality would once again be great to watch, should he retain his appetite for the game, which has at times for me, been lost in the relegation battle at Fulham.

Of course much depends on how Sherwood see`s the team shape evolving. Does he want to retain one or two strikers as his main formation, and does he honestly feel that Lamela and Chadli have the game to lead our attack? Despite claims that Soldado is top quality, is he really a player that Sherwood wants for the long term or would for example, he prefer a player like Benteke, who is more Ade than Robbie from next season?

Personally, I would definitely take Berbatov, and use him for the short term. I like Harry Kane very much, but still feel he has to develop and is more a No10 that No9, but he could learn a great deal for the Bulgarian or equally with a spell away playing regular football, as I feel he is a player that will come on in leaps and bounds with more experience and confidence.

At the suggested £1.5m fee and should the wages be reasonable (ish), I feel Berba, is worth the gamble, but equally I can understand Sherwood`s thinking that we need to work with and no doubt keep happy the players we have and I can certainly see the benefit of giving someone like Lamela games in the central areas as his long term role, and signing someone else in that position will surely stifle his chances and development and that may well prove a bigger loss than another strikers gain...

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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Tuesday January 21 2014
Time: 8:56AM

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Just looked at Didier in the pic at the top and had to smile...
oxfordspur
21/01/2014 09:01:00
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No Way. Berbatov has no hunger, no desire, stopped playing when he wanted out to Manure and flopped there. NO!!! If anyone, we need someone like Bony (won't happen though).
maccaspur
21/01/2014 09:02:00
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I still think Sir Les will work with Soldado in training and bring him on. That's my view anyway.
maccaspur
21/01/2014 09:05:00
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No brainer really, lose one to injury and we will struggle.
Marianne Fischer
21/01/2014 09:05:00
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NOT Berbatov, it would appear he's just not good for the dressing room atmosphere. Also the way he left our club after throwing his toys out of the pram. Yes he's quality but, a bit like Ade, he doesn't always want to make the effort.
longtimespur
21/01/2014 09:06:00
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of course, I have written this around Berbatov, but that doesn't mean he is the striker we must bring in, it is also whether we need one or can live without in the short term at least
oxfordspur
21/01/2014 09:07:00
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Also can't see Berba being involved in the fast attacking football, which atm seems to be Tim's way of playing. More suited to a Benteke, Lukaku, Bony, like player. If TS feels he has enough cover I can't imagine Levy spending even £1.5 mill if he doesn't have to.
longtimespur
21/01/2014 09:11:00
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has to be one who is prepared for bench time though.
maccaspur
21/01/2014 09:13:00
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I wouldn't take Berbatov, and I don't think Sherwood would want him. He clearly wants players that work hard for the full 90 minutes and that is never ever going to be Berbatov. As long as one of Ade or Soldado are fit we'll be alright playing someone creative just off their shoulder. If both got injured Berbatov just wouldn't be a replacement as that lone striker. He's better suited in the creative role which I'd imagine is what TS plans for Lamela. We should think more long term and spend the money on Benteke, even if it means moving on the likes of Holtby. Or wait until the summer and go for Bony.
flipper
21/01/2014 09:22:00
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Problem is we don't need a striker, we need a second centre forward, Adebeyor has shown that. All we seem to be linked with are players like Berbatov who are past their sell by date or little guys that clearly aren't suited to that role. Wait until the summer and have another go for Benteke.
jod
21/01/2014 09:23:00
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yes
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 09:27:00
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I think Berbatov is just the right kind of player for Lamela and Chadli to hone their skills up front and Kane for that matter. He is the master of control and slick passing and with them running off him he doesn't have to be very mobile he is a foil. As good as Soldado and Ade are they are very different players so I feel it gives us another dimension for maybe half or perhaps one more season before he retires.
Duncan Wood1
21/01/2014 09:27:00
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Great player for us in the past but bringing him back would be like bringing a flu bug into the changing room !
bazdog
21/01/2014 09:28:00
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Nice one bazdog! :)
maccaspur
21/01/2014 09:31:00
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ok so we have one forward who is not scoring and might as well be injured, we have one who is scoring and when he wants to be is world class but could get injured and harry kane is never going to be a star unless he appears in some panto sometime. that tells me we need another forward. For those who might say Berba can not be involved in fast attacking football they need a re-think, his footballing brain, connected to his feet work faster than 99% of other players feet. He would only be good to see us through the season at best though. Of course we needa Benteke, Lukaka or now it appears Bony is up to the prem at the highest level.
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 09:32:00
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Topobunty1882 But he also would not come to warm the bench. He's a regular starter for Fulham isn't he?
maccaspur
21/01/2014 09:38:00
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YES, We do need another striker But definitely not Berbatov. There is no way in hell levy would bring him back after the disrespect he showed when he left, and lets be right about this, he is no where near the player he was when he left. The reason we should buy a striker now instead on in the summer are two fold

1) We all know that if a £6m player has a decent tournament they are suddenly worth £30m the next window, but if a £30m player has a bad tournament they are still worth £30m. If we are aiming for a proven international lets go all out for them before their value sky rockets like Bentekes will do after the WC

2)If we are going for a Luuk De Jong, or a Bas Dost or that type of player get them in now, let them have half a season to find their feet as the 3rd striker so they are raring to go next season from the off! We will no doubt have the same issues if we bring in another striker in the summer with the whole “adapting” problems etc. ADE has only 2 years left after this year so I very much doubt he will be here next season. He is too hit and miss for Levy to give him another contact and I agree. Also, at the end of this season city stop subsidising his £170k p/w wages, so he will be looking for a more lucrative deal. Its a real shame that Lamela won’t be given half a chance as he could have been great for us. Sadly he will be going at the end of the year at a massive loss. Just watch him start banging them in for fun once he gets a run in the team.
hudderspur
21/01/2014 09:48:00
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Good article Ox, Poses many thoughts.On my understanding (Media outlets granted) Levy is interested in Berbatov and Sherwood is not so keen on the idea. Whilst i have no doubt Sherwood is aware of the skill-set Berbs would bring to the frontline, it is reported his doubts are more about the effects it would have on Ade. IMO, alot depends on how we are going to set up, it can't be overlooked that we seem to be playing so much better in having Ade holding the ball up for others to operate from. Soldado looks more likely to score with a partner up top. Now if Ade gets injured or loses his mojo, where does that leave us?. Berbatov would be a good replacement for Ade, would he work well with him?. Berbatov will want to play, what happens when he does not?, would harmony in the camp suddenly diminish as a result of sulkiness?. A Berbatov happy to come in and be a squad player and understand he may not play at all times would be great. Would he do this?. I can see him being a great signing with numerous players able to make runs of him. He has great vision and would certainly be the type of striker we need to be looking at if we are indeed to dip into the market. We don't need a fox in the box type, more a striker confident in holding the ball up and involving others. Berbatov is very good at this. I'm of the thinking this is sensible business, especially on the short term basis.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 09:48:00
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not sure he plays every game for Fulham, but I think that's a very fair point macca. I think if that was factored in he would take Arsenal over us as they could offer him the bench for 2 more games in the CL. Based on what might be a very small list of who we might get now I would take him back but I don't bare grudges as many appear to on here. We would need to get VERY lucky on injuries or help from on high to turn Soldado into a goalscorer in the prem to challenge for top4 to the end of the season. The other way is to get more goalscoring midfielders and I would add Ben Arfa to our list of potentials. If United get Mata they will be very strong if he stays fit and the two up top get fit. Everton will strengthen also as might Pool.
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 09:51:00
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Agree with topho....Bony, Lukaku or Benteke. It has to be a striker who is capable of holding the ball for others to play off. With inflated january prices and lack of availability, Berbatov might just be the wisest option. Have we considered a LWF who is capable of playing up front?, are there any out there available. I think this would really be the way forward. No disrespect to Townsend, he has not had much gametime Left, but the Left side whole season has been a let down apart fromEriksen playing there and drifting central. We could be so much stronger with the Left side sorted. Think that'll be a summertime problem to address however.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 09:56:00
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Ross McCormack?? Be a better bet than Harry Kane and would happily sit on the bench.
maccaspur
21/01/2014 09:59:00
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hudd Bas Dost, great film that, must have been so claustrophobic on that sub......................Cider I think that Berba effect of Ade is a very decent thought to follow, if that would be true then it might well be best to stay away, might be two ego's that simply would clash....Soldado looks unlikely to score if he had 9 partners up top, let's face reality with him at the moment, he is a huge risk to rely upon for the last part of the season based on the evidence of the first part and we cant shape up just to try to help him be better than average, simply there are better options within the squad and much better outside it.
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 10:00:00
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would rather Ross McFarter from Derek and Clive
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 10:07:00
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My ideal scenario for Spurs is to have one striker and a 10 in support and for this we have plenty of options with Eriksen, Lamela and Chadli. BUT....with the Europa League on the horizon it's no harm having a 3rd striker option, plus it gives Sherdinand the option of 2 up front horses for courses - if we can get Berba on the cheap I say go for it.
JL Pagano
21/01/2014 10:11:00
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Work now.........
maccaspur
21/01/2014 10:11:00
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Another thing to consider when identifying targets, is the fact that it appears we may have some bargaining chips in the guise of players who may be deemed surplus. They may, or may not fancy a move. They may not fancy the idea of a swap involving players plus cash. Works both ways. Would Villa fancy a couple of players and cash for Benteke?. What about Swansea, with Mi******** too far from return. Failing this why not go all in and try and get a lead on our opponents now by trying to get our business done pre-summer. A good World cup by some will only see there value rise in any case, add to this the World's media gushing about performances and the whole process of signing who really want becomes so much harder. Doing our big business now (if we could) would also give us more chance of securing the finish we aspire. Reus LW, Rodriguez LB/MarceloLB, Doria CB, and, Benteke/Bony 2nd striker. If lamela wants out, Salah for RW.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 10:19:00
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tell wonga wonga to throw in Remy and he can have his decision ... http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/redknapp-wants-decision-spurs-midfielder-6531050?
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 10:23:00
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Why the sie editors omit "Mi********" in my last post?.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 10:25:00
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Michu.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 10:27:00
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Not
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 10:27:00
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Strange?.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 10:28:00
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I like Berbatov, he never had blistering pace but he can do what Sheringham can do. Score goals and link up play. He has a fantastic football brain and technique. I don't think Berbatov would complain so much. He would be grateful to return to a club that is going places. Yes he is a moaner..that is his nature but imagine a combo of Berba and Ade? COYS!
James1
21/01/2014 10:30:00
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Stevan Jovetic anyone?.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 10:30:00
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I think that would be the way to go Cider, players we want out either sold or loaned plus cash for Benteke, cant see chelsea doing anything either way on Lukaka, but Swansea might, but Bony is critical to them at the moment
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 10:32:00
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bony or bentke
stephenspurs1210
21/01/2014 10:35:00
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Levy has not lost his marbles as far as I know, so absolutely nil chance of him coming back. Man utd are more likely to sign him. Was a great past player for us until he refused to play to engineer a transfer. No thanks. Harry Kane, anyone one from the development squad or another signing a better choice for now and the longer term,
camper
21/01/2014 10:36:00
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Bony over Benteke zany day at the moment. last season I still wouldn't have had Benteke, there is something about him that I don't quite get, almost as if he was a one season wonder, he burst on the scene, flared and burned out. Bony on the other hand I would have in a heartbeat, he was absolutely awesome at his time with Swansea and I was hoping we would snap him up, but looks like the same old story, we buy an expensive duffer and someone else gets the cheap winner.
chrishove123
21/01/2014 10:39:00
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Realistically, we're not going to get Benteke, Bony or Lukaku in January, but, as jod's pointed out, we do need another centre forward, a target man who can hold the ball and make intelligent passes to the likes of Soldado, Eriksen, or even Lamela if he's given a chance. With the Europa League gaining importance as the winner qualifies for next season's CL, can you think of a realistically more available centre forward in the January window to back up Adebayor than Berbatov?
hiano
21/01/2014 10:39:00
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What do I mean was, I'm getting a wee bit ahead of myself here. maybe it was an insight into the near future, we will get Bony. HA HA
chrishove123
21/01/2014 10:41:00
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do we need a striker?...yes...do we need one now?...debatable but on balance I'm happy to see Lamela and Chadli in the second striker role or Eriksen pushing up for the 12 games or so we won't have Defoe we also have Ade and Soldado who can both lead the line....I'd hate us to get berba at 33 on the books and miss out on a striker we need...he can go somewhere else for his last pay day...
shedboy2
21/01/2014 10:43:00
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Cider - I said this the other day. Jovetic on loan would make perfect sense for all parties. We get a good striker, He gets to play, and City get to develop the player in the PL. Only sticking point is bloody Pelegrini doesn't want any players to leave as they are still in 4 tournaments.
hudderspur
21/01/2014 10:44:00
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hiano...Winner of next years Europa league enters Champs league i believe.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 10:46:00
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BONY.... BONY.... OMG the football factory is back at work. The "he played well against us on Sunday" and "I bought him on my ipad FM 2014 and scored loads basis" (Also goes foe Bas Dost who's managed a massive 1 goal this season). Bony you lot moan about Ade and how he goes missing and work rate, prepare yourselves as you obviously haven't watch much of Swansea. I think we are short of a striker but hopefully we have a scouting network more capable of watching our last match and think he's a world beater....
fletch77
21/01/2014 10:49:00
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Despite his obvious (waning?) talent, I'm not convinced that Berbatov is the solution - we don't need a band aid! He would be a short term fix at best if he is up for it - we already have the moody Ade - both in the starting 11 could be didasterous if they decide to go 'walkies' together. We must not succumb to Jan window desperation buys!
Durbanspur
21/01/2014 10:49:00
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no to Jovetic Cider.......Corr Shed, Chadli on Thames as our second striker of the guy who hasnt played yet? Better Eriksen I think if you want to go that route.
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 10:49:00
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'Disastrous' even!
Durbanspur
21/01/2014 10:51:00
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Appears there's interest from Newcs for Luke De Jong on their VS site. I don't know much about him but it seems their possibly after a loan. Would he be worth a punt for us??
longtimespur
21/01/2014 10:52:00
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yes i would think so ref loan deal Longtime De Jong
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 10:54:00
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Jeeeez this whole Chadli / Lamela behind the striker talk is POINTLESS guys! Tim probably said that as a last resort in case we don’t buy anyone. Chadli has failed to impress every time he has come onto the pitch. He has had a fair amount of chances in various positions and hasn’t grasped them. Lamela, I would bloody love it if TS gave him a chance but he’s not even getting on the bench. Fact is, if Ade goes cold (likely) and Soldado doesn’t start scoring (even more liley) we are screwed. Like I said earlier, think of the bigger picture, we WILL need a striker next season so why hang about. If it’s the whole “wait for LVG” to be appointed then that’s a joke. DL offered TS a contract so he needs to back him this window where we are short. First and foremost must be a LEFT BACK. I don’t understand why AVB or TS cannot see that that’s our Achilles heel.
hudderspur
21/01/2014 10:54:00
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fletch...Nope!. I have seen bony play numerous times this season, he has looked for the ball, held it up very well, is very hard to push of the ball, has a wicked shot on him (ask Joe Hart City), links play well, and IMo would operate very well with others closer to him. I do not base my opinions on fleeting glimpses and feel he would be a good option for the reasons stated, reasons i have bore witness to numerous times with my own eyes.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 10:55:00
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Remy for me, I'm still shocked nobody has bid for him. QPR got him for peanuts. Remy is happy up front or on the left side where he featured prominently. We can swap BAE plus 3-4 mil. scores 1 in 2. I also believe he has the pace to play for us.
Mix26
21/01/2014 10:56:00
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Quite fancy Lamela upfront - maybe the Defoe loan is to allow Lamela more time to settle and be ready to step in by end Feb.
Durbanspur
21/01/2014 10:57:00
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Hudders that is EXACTLY as it is mate, well said..................Fletch Bony is proving he can handle the physicality of the prem in a series of games and proving he can score all types of goals, he is good at this level.
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 10:57:00
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Wooaah sorry FLETCH! Didn’t realise you were the Scouting God! Oh and BTW Bas Dost has made 5 sub appearances this season after being injured for 6 months. Suppose Wikipedia didn’t tell you that. Douche.
hudderspur
21/01/2014 10:59:00
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KB71 usually has some talented young players he has scouted. U out there KB?
Mix26
21/01/2014 11:01:00
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luuk de Jong...No!. Good in the Dutch league, failing to currently impress in the Bundesliga with Monchengladbach. Out and out CF, got that in Soldado.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 11:02:00
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I still stand by my initial thought that Scocco could do a fine job for us. can play, Striker, second striker, Left wing, Right wing and can score well. All types of goals. A utility man anywhere across the final 3rd, this could be very handy indeed in the run in. All IMO of course.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 11:05:00
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Heung-Min Son is one player we missed out on. Superb striker who has everything. Probably worth 30+ million now. COYS!
James1
21/01/2014 11:10:00
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hudders...My thoughts exactly. Let's go after our big signings now. Thing is, once reality returns to my mind, elements need to be factored in. finances could be improved if we secure champs league by summer. (Could be argued speculate to accumalate now), Price inflation in January window(most good players are key to teams mid season, hence increase, limited options for replacement). Have we seen enough of what might be considered a best starting 11?. ( LB aside, do we really know where we are light). What finances do we have for signings. I wish it was easier, but all these (and more) elements have to be factored into signings. Be nice to get the creme de la creme now, likely?. i'd suggest doubtful.
Cider spurs
21/01/2014 11:13:00
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A partnership of Soldado and and Berbatov could be very interesting. Both obviously intelligent footballers. both of them interchanging between the 9 and 10 roles could be a threat to defenders.
rahn DMC
21/01/2014 11:19:00
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James1 you have a remarkable ability for hind-sight if only you had been on the bridge of the Titantic you could have told them they should have avoided the iceberg right after they hit it! ;-)
Slurms McKenzie
21/01/2014 11:19:00
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Bentekes twice the player Bony is. Look at the last 2 games compared to all Bonys. Anyways I would take Lennon and Dembele if I had the choice. You should go for Costa from Athletico Madrid. His awesome. If you had him on form wow
HolteEnd89
21/01/2014 11:22:00
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Basing this on nothing more then Sherwoods comments, but if he is happy with his striking options as they stand, then surely we won't be seeign the two striker sup front formations again this season. Effectively we have three senior strikers and young Harry Kane come the end of February Kane suddenly gets promoted to third choice. So we will ahve to play one striker and keep the other for rotation and Kane for cover. A fourth striker won't really get a look in and won't really help the team much. LB is where we need to focus and possibly a CB depending on how reliable Kabouls fitness is. After that a proper left winger for cover and competition for Townsend and possibly another right winger as well. I see The Sun are touting Tello and Sanchez being available from Barcelona?
Slurms McKenzie
21/01/2014 11:24:00
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Cant believe that some of you would have this man back in a spurs shirt. We loved berba the first time round. What did he do? He refused to wear the shirt that WE all love so much. As far as I'm concerned he should NEVER be allowed the honour of representing US again.
LongTimeSpursFan64
21/01/2014 11:25:00
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Diego Costa-lot could be our new Leandro! Too expensive to be actually signed by us but we can keep the fans happy by repeatedly making bids under his club's valuation for the next few transfer windows!
Slurms McKenzie
21/01/2014 11:26:00
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Long Time to be fair Ox is just spit balling on whether we need a new striker to be signed or not Berb is just the latest to be linked with us. But is it just me or is everyone else ignoring transfer rumours that link players with us. I am not expecting to see anyone signed by us this window!
Slurms McKenzie
21/01/2014 11:28:00
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Napoli now looking at Alex Song of Barcelona as no deal has been reached with Spurs for Capoue!
Slurms McKenzie
21/01/2014 11:45:00
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Hahaha too true Slurms..I would have also told the ref in 86 WC that he should have seen the cheating ********'s hand! COYS!
James1
21/01/2014 11:45:00
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Thats a matter of perspective there James - I thought it was a perfectly fine "headed" goal :-)
Slurms McKenzie
21/01/2014 11:46:00
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Slurms - Leandro? Sounds familiar - who's he again?
Durbanspur
21/01/2014 11:47:00
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Ok, Im trying to think outside the box here….AC Millan are in utter turmoil at the moment. How about a bid for El Shaarawy. Injured until end of Feb but LONG term it’s a great deal for us. AC need Money NOW, could we tempt them to cash in. Balloteli is another “option” but most likely way out of our price range. Then there’s Pazzini, a completely different option to the other two, more of a poacher like Villa. I just think with the way AC is at the moment (and has eben for a few years) we should be tapping up some of their players. Abate is another one although probably could go to almost any team in Europe.
hudderspur
21/01/2014 11:47:00
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agree ref Remy Mix........Cider that description on Scocco does sound like the one we were given on here countless times for Chadli on Thames, not sure I would buy that again.
tophobunty1882
21/01/2014 11:48:00
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Like the sound of that hudders! COYS!
James1
21/01/2014 11:52:00
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i like pazzinni,but maybe too similar to soldado-to me bony ticks all the boxes in a modern day striker,powefull,fast and skillfull
ghulamville
21/01/2014 11:52:00
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Hudder El Shaaraway only on a loan deal with an option to buy in the summer, that way we limit the risk is his injury turns out to be worse then reported and if its not he'dbe available to us right aroudn the time Defoe would be leaving!
Slurms McKenzie
21/01/2014 11:53:00
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