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Four Clubs, One Place!

Four Clubs, One Place!

I think that barring a major collapse, we can pretty much assume that Chelsea, City and Arsenal are fighting for the title and are already shoe ins for top four places.

Again, aside of a major collapse or title winning run from someone else, it would seem that we have a race between Liverpool, Spurs, Everton and United for the one remaining top four place and though United are slightly adrift, their history, makes them a team that you can`t discount, even without their former master. There is of course still a week or so to bring in new faces, however is this always a guarantee of improvement? We can always consider the games between the top teams and the old adage of "Six Pointers" come into play. First, here are the key games the four have to play.

Liverpool: Everton (H), Arsenal (H), Man Utd (A), Spurs (H), Man City (H), Chelsea (H). Spurs: Man City (H), Everton (H), Chelsea (A), Arsenal (H), Liverpool (A). Everton: Liverpool (A), Spurs (A), Chelsea (A), Arsenal (H), Man Utd (H), Man City (H). Man Utd: Arsenal (A), Man City (H), Liverpool (H), Everton (A). We do of course also have to consider other cup and European commitments and how they will stretch and tire the squads. Liverpool and Everton are still in the FA Cup and you assume will be keen to make a good impression in a bid to win silverware, United are in the Capital One (for now) and still have the Champions league, whilst Spurs have the Europa and the dreaded Thursday games. Liverpool and Everton, don`t have the distraction of Europe. Will that be a key to their own season?

Squad Strength and depth, experience, confidence, momentum and of course luck, are all keys to how a team finishes a season. All have top quality and you also feel there is room for improvement in all four, as new players and system settle, which makes this a hugely difficult one to call. Do Liverpool have the one or two outstanding players such as Suarez and the leadership of Gerrard, as key. Have Spurs started that run and are at last fulfilling their pre season expectations? Everton have perhaps surprised people with how quickly they have embraced the Martinez methods, but do they have the squad depth? United have the experience, and still have match winners, but have they also lost their aura?

My heart says Spurs, but my head honestly doesn`t have a clue. The next few games will give us a better indication and certainly with Spurs, will this be the indicator that Tim Sherwood has what it takes? The same of course applies to Moyes and Martinez. What might be the decider is how team cope with a slip up or loss of that key player. Could Liverpool be the same without Suarez? Everton with our Lukaku? But also what will happen to United if and when they get Rooney and RVP fit and firing, whilst Spurs will surely benefit from returning Vertonghen, Paulinho and several others, who might also be fresh legs for the season run in...



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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Wednesday January 22 2014
Time: 9:11AM

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Bingo!
logos8
22/01/2014 09:19:00
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nice one. I won't be surprised if all of us will finish in the space of 3 to 4 points going down to goal difference for the CL spot
logos8
22/01/2014 09:20:00
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I don't agree with the fact that the next games will give us a better indication of how and who where will finish. It will go down to the wire, you can perform admirably until the end and lose your last two must wins and you're out. You need luck and consistency. Team spirit and determination more important than tactics and reputation. COYS
logos8
22/01/2014 09:23:00
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I will keep hoping and shouting like a lunatic till the end of the season.coys.
bazdog
22/01/2014 09:28:00
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For me it's between us and Liverpool
Mixer yids
22/01/2014 09:31:00
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ok and Utd if they get Rooney and RVP back together
Mixer yids
22/01/2014 09:32:00
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Alot could depend on who has the best window. Looks like we are searchng for Serie A squad players - Serie A is not the strongest of leagues. Oh dear. Another great January window
jonathan01
22/01/2014 09:33:00
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It is going to be a hell of a tough ride! Everton and Liverpool games are a must win games, a loss would be a disaster. United seems to have the easiest games left, but they have the the CL and cup games to play. Wouldn't write them off yet.
Jables
22/01/2014 09:37:00
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For once Spurs have a big squad and that will be the difference which will get us 4th
Halfmoon
22/01/2014 09:42:00
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I really don't buy the six pointer idea. Liverpool destroyed us on our own ground, we're level on points. All that matters is who gets the most points, how you get them and who you get them against isn't important.
jod
22/01/2014 09:43:00
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Just like the battle at the top of the table the one for 4th will go down to the wire. I predicted you guys for 4th at the start of the season but I was sort of thinking Suarez would be gone by now and honestly didn't think Everton would be so consistently good.

Going against you lot is the Europa League and how that wears out players, I think your record after mid-week games is not great (?) and also relying on Ade is always a big risk as you never know when he is going to just stop trying and pushing for his next move or big contract.

Sherwood's approach has been remarkably effective but it will be shown up against the really good teams. Good news is that you have a strong squad in midfield which is where it really counts.

United are not out of it yet, they have the easiest run in and of late have been pretty good at putting away the lesser teams.

Your next 3 games are City (h), Hull (a) Everton (h) and 3 draws is a real possibility. United's next are Cardiff (h), Stoke (a) and Fulham (h). 7 or even 9 points a real possibility and that's them level with you or even ahead!

It will be a vital NLD in March, 3 points for you lot really helps the 4th place race. But a win for us and it goes a long way towards the league title!

Galway Gooner
22/01/2014 09:47:00
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Liverpool have an advantage with no european travel/games, United could come very strong if they sign Mata and get RVP and Rooney fit. 3 horse race. Best manager IMO Martinez, so is it a genuine 4 horse race? well that was useful want it.
tophobunty1882
22/01/2014 09:51:00
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GG...Just couldn't help yourself could you?. You won't be winning that league title. Everybody knows Arsenal like the minimalistic look in their trophy room. Less work for the cleaner.
Cider spurs
22/01/2014 09:55:00
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Whats to say Le Ars and Chelsea dont capitulate or lose these games against top teams? I honestly think City will take the title, but the rest is still up for grabs as we have seen many matches swing and plenty shocker results this season. Everton are punching above their weight and Liverpool are a one man band. Spurs and United will be playing for 4th and I feel Liverpool may sneak in there with lady luck.
Mix26
22/01/2014 09:57:00
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I would say Everton based on there consistency, Liverpool are still a bit flaky, Utd have dropped to many points, teams dont fear them any more. We could do it, providing the lads step up we need to grind out a few more points against teams like City.
coys1717
22/01/2014 09:58:00
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i think Logos has it here. Galway the one at the top wont go to the wire as a 3 horse race....
tophobunty1882
22/01/2014 10:00:00
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The key points: Everton have the least number of defeats in the league. Turn a few of those draws into wins, and they would be hard to keep up with. Somewhat quietly they have gone about their job, and are doing excellently. They will sign the TALL Traore, and imagine Baines crossing for that dude... ManU have Moyes... Moyes at Everton would ALWAYS finish the season strongly. Coincidentally, Moyes' Everton would usually start each season slowly, just like Man U have. Do not discount them. If they are smart, they should be finalising deals for a couple of good signings, and they would be a threat. If they do not sign anyone, then I think that they won't make top 4. Liverpool seem to be playing out of their skins, yet they still cannot pull away. Heavily reliant on their strikers, you have to wonder what would happen should Suarez pick up an injury. The front 2 score so many goals out of nothing, you wonder if they can keep on doing that. Liverpool also seem to follow a pattern: slaughter the weak teams, and lose/draw to the best. Hopefully Villa have shown a lot of teams how to get points off Liverpool and to stop them playing. I also wonder about Gerrard. Us - who knows? I still think we have a problem at home. That may count against us, and also our goal difference. The other issue is that we still have Holtby, Capoue, Lamela, Soldado waiting to get integrated. This may distract us. My gut feeling is that Liverpool just seem to have the knack of scoring early goals that see them through. I think that they will get it.
TonyRich
22/01/2014 10:01:00
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Really don’t know THB, if I had to stick a grand on it at gun point id put it on Liverpool. Everton picked up another few injuries against WBA so their squad is looking a bit depleted, they are also starting to show signs of fatigue this early on so I can’t see them having a strong finish. United, well this all depends on who and IF they buy in this window as they are seriously lacking quality. 6point off top isn’t a lot at this stage but it all depends on how many points they pick up or drop before RVP & Rooney are full match fit I think. Liverpool, they have the odd wobble now and again like a lucky point at Villa but they aren’t really showing signs of slowing down. I just hope the Villa game was the start of a slump for them

Finally Spurs, it’s such a tough one, we have the best squad out of the four teams aiming for 4th, we are in the best form, and having already played united we have one less of the big boys to paly than Liverpool. We have Sandro Paulinho Vertonghen, Townsend all to come back in so our squad is nearly up to full strength. The thing that concerns me is if ADE goes missing we are really going to struggle. I really think it would be worth going for a striker this window. We say this EVERY year but get a striker in this window and we can nail on top 4. Don’t and its down to the wire. I very much doubt ADE will get a new deal at the end of the year which only leaves Soldado. No harm whatsoever in bringing in a cheaper option such as Gomis (stats don’t look bad this season) or a loan deal for Jovetic or someone. If Levy has a wad to spend then Benteke or Remy.
hudderspur
22/01/2014 10:03:00
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Cider - lets not go down the whole trophy room debate shall we, I think we all know which club have the most impressive trophy haul between our two clubs.

I think we have a great chance of the title, been the best team over the last 12 months and the most consistent this season. Traditionally we're very strong finishers to the season so we've as good a chance as any. It will go down to the last game or two I think.

Galway Gooner
22/01/2014 10:04:00
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tophobunty1882 - yep, and also Liverpool have no Europe distraction. Big advantage.... Although we have Man U are still in the cups, and we are out of the domestic cups...
TonyRich
22/01/2014 10:04:00
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Not for you it wont Galway, Chelsea Man City maybe.
tophobunty1882
22/01/2014 10:07:00
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Tops - let me guess as soon as we have to play anyone we'll fall away, right?
Galway Gooner
22/01/2014 10:08:00
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For me, getting Kaboul and Vertonghen back and playing reguarly will give us a big boost in our quest. I like vlad, but if we can have a pairing of the aforementioned then i think this improves us dramatically. Another issue to address has to be home form. Having a home record the same as Hull regarding Wins, draws and losses (although Hull have scored more and conceded less) is nowhere near good enough. IMO, Everton and Liverpool are pretty much at optimum regarding performance output. Man Utd and Tottenham are still well in the hunt and i believe there is a case for argument that we currently are not at our optimum level (Spurs at home, Utd in general). If we can perform better and reach the levels we should be at home, and do it continually, i see no reason why we should not be overtaking the likes of Liverpool and Everton. We are level now, and have still not set the league alight for the whole of the season, players out to return, a new manager, new belief, a good run currently materialising. If we can pick ourselves up from the odd loss, and perform to the best ability with players we have home and away, i'd say we are in good shape.
Cider spurs
22/01/2014 10:10:00
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keep guessing Galway, do you want to move over to the Arsenal thing/board and I will join you there to discuss arsenal or we can stay here and discuss spurs possibly? however i think we have a restrictions on away fans due to police instructions.
tophobunty1882
22/01/2014 10:16:00
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Cider very true, not many top teams could handle having 1st and 2nd choice CBs out for extended periods, (and no left back for 2 months didn't help) think of Arsenal as a case in mind. That will be a big plus as will Sandro, Paulinho and Townsend coming back. The new open tactics have reduced the complications is playing football, possibly the biggest help of all.
tophobunty1882
22/01/2014 10:19:00
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It really is the most interesting window and premier league for a long time. So many potential candidates for the title and top 4. Any team can drop poick up a couple of keys injuries..I agree with those who say If Man United get Mata they will get top 4. I feel spurs should just go all out to get him, again as said above - we offered 30mil for Willian..why not for Mata? He could then stay in London! -yes we have many players in his position but as good? Nope! Sell Sig, Holtby, Chadli, Capoue and get 1 or 2 that make us stronger IMO. I've said on many posts - keep strengthening just to stay where you were in the league. It's cut throat and yes I'm repeating myself but in the summer - we sold more than we spent - so we should have some funds left to use (defoe recently too) I would agree with those saying either Mata, Hulk, Bernard, Reus..and a out and out striker (costa or martinez for me) can anyone argue we would not be stronger?
chavli
22/01/2014 10:22:00
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lol topho that was phucking priceless!
Mix26
22/01/2014 10:23:00
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Chavli, I think thats a good post, but I am not sure on Mata for us because I think Eriksen might be as good or better soon. We need a left back and a forward to genuinely improve us, agree sell those players or loan/sell. I cant see Chelsea selling Mata to us in any event
tophobunty1882
22/01/2014 10:24:00
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It's easy to say this or that but the financial rewards for the champs league is massive and of course spurs only having been in the competition once could do with some more action there so for me it's a no brainer to try and strengthen. If we finish 5th or 6th..we'd all be gutted as at the start of the season we had high hopes..imagine in TS had been in charge since the start - we'd probably be top of the table!
chavli
22/01/2014 10:24:00
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Tops - don't be so bitter, it doesn't suit you and beware of bad karma and all that.

All predictions are guess work but basing Arse being there at the end of season on current form, fixtures and condition of the squad. Remember our player of the season is back for the next league game!

For what it's worth I think you will just miss out on the top 4, but having done the prediction thing on The-Mustard.com it's only 2 points between yourselves, United and Liverpool (4th). So a win either way could swing it.

Galway Gooner
22/01/2014 10:25:00
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I cannot believe that Man U sat back and watched Modric, Ozil, Paulinho, Fernandinho all change clubs without any interest. It is quite clear that they are lacking spark and vibrancy in the creative CM area. I do also think that whilst many think that Felliani is not a true Man U player, he has only started 4 league games for them. Get him back fit, and who knows what effect he could have.
TonyRich
22/01/2014 10:30:00
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Galway, i think when you eventually get kicked out the Champions League Bayern Munich or if your lucky the next round it will be how you bounce back from that your season will be decided. Last season that 2nd leg in Germany, even though you ultimately lost gave you a huge confidence boost to your season to convince the players they could mix it with the best. This time round Arsenal are thinking they are the best and confidence is on cloud 9. A rude wake up call from Bayern could send the players Tumbling.
spurs-stelios
22/01/2014 10:32:00
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Galway - the fact that you guys are still top right now is showing the pundits up. They all wrote you guys off early on. However in March, you have Chelsea and ManC in consecutive games - sandwiched between matches away to Spurs and Everton! Navigate that, and the title is yours. Very tough. before that, you still have Liverpool & Southampton away. However, your last 5 look very winnable. And yes you ALWAYS finish strongly. Let's see. My gut feeling is that City will win the title. Purely due to their ridiculous strike force, plus the goals from Yaya, and all over the pitch. Chelsea have the Mourinho factor, and are curiously only 2 points behind you without playing anywhere near on the level of you or City. If Chelsea start performing, they are a threat too.
TonyRich
22/01/2014 10:36:00
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I said to GG after about 10 games that I can see Arsenal actually winning the league. I don't see any reason to change my mind yet. Their main rivals are Citeh who are just scoring for fun. I see Liverpool getting the odd few poor results and gradually dropping out of the 4th place race. I think that Everton will also fall away towards the end of the season, small squad, injuries and tiredness will affect them. I feel that ManU will go on a run, and it will be down to us to keep our run going in order to clinch 4th place.
spurboy61
22/01/2014 10:37:00
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Shame Sherwood wasn't there for day 1. Still a healthy squad some very very good players in the Spurs team. I'd like to think that this squad will take us into top 4 if not higher. Ade, Soldado, Lennon, Townsend, Lamela, Eriksen, Chadli, Bentaleb, Dembele, Sandro, Paulinho, Rose, Verts, Kaboom, Dawson, Walker, Naughton, Chircheres , Lloris . I wonder if we'll be dreaming of higher when we beat City this weekend
willfry
22/01/2014 10:37:00
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chavli - topho - I am a massive Mata fan. But I am with topho that it is already "too many cooks" in those areas in our squad, and it would stifle a blossoming Eriksen. But it does sadden me to NOT see Mata lighten up our league (against our rivals...) I would be a tad surprised to see Chelsea let Mata go to a rival...admittedly they may not see Man U as a rival right now, but it could come back to haunt them.
TonyRich
22/01/2014 10:41:00
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Think we are in with a very good shout but I still see it as needing LB, GK and a stiker as priorities. We have enough cover everywhere else. If, and it's more than possible with the way he comes out, Lloris gets injured will Friedel be able or even quick enough to play sweeper keeper? Rose is struggling, possibly because he isn't that good yet and has no cover in front of him, like Lennon for Walker, and we need a more consistent good LB. Ade is playing really well atm but he could easily disappear or pick up an injury. Soldado may be more prolific playing with Eriksen or Lamela behind him but he may not. Not Defoe, he's off in 10/11 games and I don't rate him up front on his own! Hence we need cover there too. Tim might think we have enough cover and just utilise the youngsters. His call, his job on the line!
longtimespur
22/01/2014 10:44:00
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If we sell Siggy, Holtby and Capoue then Mata would fit in nicely. them 3 would almost pay for him as well.
spurs-stelios
22/01/2014 10:45:00
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will be great if we do willfry because we dont play them til wednesday, sherwood would be god if he could pull that one off
tophobunty1882
22/01/2014 10:46:00
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Yeah we do have a few in his position but if we could shift a few on - Mata has destroyed us in the past..and many others! He is literally world class..I would actually play him in the 3 behind the striker - I really like the idea that TS has of interchanging front players - Mata would be perfect but of course we do have many like him already just not as good. I'm not putting down any of our squad (apart from chadli) I just think whilst we can push for champs league we should! I woulnd;t write anyone off for the title at this stage - true Arsenal and City seem unstoppable but as Tonyrich says above - more hard fixtures to come. I'm just preying that TS has got levy and baldini on side to complete the squad..we have depth..but do we have the strength?
chavli
22/01/2014 10:49:00
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Spurs-stelios - exactly! It as simple as that - improve what we have (not saying they are bad players - but if we want to be top) I like the way TS has got us playing, he wants us to play forward with pace..I bet any money he has players in mind..like others saying imagine when our Brazillians are back in the fold..
chavli
22/01/2014 10:51:00
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I keep ranting on but does anyone argue with: Shifting Capoue, Holtby, Chadli, Sig, Livermore (perm) - that's midfielders out and get 1 or 2 of Mata / Berbard/ Reus in..=major upgrade. Then as we've sold defoe get a striker then a LB and goalkeeper..Yes I am expecting deals to happen!
chavli
22/01/2014 10:54:00
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If Defoe is not replaced his loss will have a major negative influence on the top 4, not only for his loss as an impact sub in the Premiership, but also for the fact that Ade and Soldado will have to step into Defoe's normal Thursday night starting role in the Europa, which means more games for them both, more risk of fatigue and injury... I fell the decisions that have already been made upstairs during this window (Defoe) and will be made in the next 9 days will be the deciding factor on our top four chances. Sadly our fate is still in the hands of Daniel Levy, not with the coach and training staff at OUR club, which has been the fundamental flaw during the entire Sugar/Enic era's... Who is Levy about to buy? And what further shocks does he have in store for us on the departure front? Will he assist Tim this window or will he hinder his chances further with yet more of his appalling decisions to sale KEY players???
Pele10
22/01/2014 10:56:00
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Wow, how things have changed, I remember with AVB in charge most were saying we would finish 6th, and next season would see us push, now according to the poll, we are favourites to finish 4th. I wonder if this is based on our 6 game unbeaten run since AVB departed. Well I thought we would finish 6th. and I still believe that, we may finish 5th or 7th , to me its Liverpool for 4th, maybe Utd if they sign some quality players in the window, and Rooney and Van Persie come back soon.
Ossie
22/01/2014 10:57:00
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chavli - how can we fit in Mata if we have struggled all season to fit in Chadli, Soldado, Lamela, Holtby - and only just now seemed to have slotted Eriksen in...? I just think that it is not the priority right now. LB has inadequate cover, and many here even think that our first choice LB is inadequate. You are only as strong as your weakest link. Mata would aid in scoring goals, but since Sherwood has taken over, scoring goals hasn't been an issue. The attacking options should be addressed in summer in my opinion because we still need to see what formations and tactics TS will employ, and we still need to find out what our new signings can do.
TonyRich
22/01/2014 11:01:00
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Well, there are certainly a lot of 'ifs and buts' but it should all become clear after the next 16 games.
Geofspurs
22/01/2014 11:05:00
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Ossie - I agree that it is wrong to judge where we will end up based on the "honeymoon period" of Sherwood's appointment. When we see it settle down into normality, then we can really judge. It may be so tight that the difference between 4th and 7th could be a couple of points, so we could well end up 6th whilst performing well. Our goal difference will then come back to haunt us...
TonyRich
22/01/2014 11:06:00
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Teams hardly spend alot in the Jan transfer window, so it's highly unlikely we will sell off all the players people on here suggest, maybe 1 or 2, and maybe a few out on loan, but thats it, as for players coming in, I doubt we will bring anyone in, as for Mata Im sure there will be bigger and better teams than Spurs, ready to but if for true Chelsea are willing to offload him
Ossie
22/01/2014 11:07:00
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Tonyrich I agree LB and Striker more important but when world class is available I think we should go for! As I said if it could happen I'd shift Chadli, Holtby, Sig, Capoue..then -Ade/ Soldado up top with a 3 behind from: Mata, Erikson, Lamela, Lennon, Townsend...depending on fitness and opposition - of course Dembele and Paulihno can play in there too.
chavli
22/01/2014 11:08:00
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TR have to agree with you there especially re LB. Also, I think, we need cover at GK becos the way Lloris comes out to get the ball with a forward chasing it, like Benteke, he's always likely to get injured and I wouldn't fancy Friedel in those situations.
longtimespur
22/01/2014 11:08:00
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As it stands we are more likely to get Champs League than Man u (as we are higher) and if Mata was willing to go to them- maybe he'd consider us? If we want to push on we need best possible players and I don;t think anyone would say Mata is not an upgrade on Sig, Chad, Holtby, etc etc
chavli
22/01/2014 11:10:00
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I will ignore the other contenders and concentrate on Spurs. I agree with Cider in as much as we have not reached our "optimum level" as yet….. I can't recall us having one outstanding match this season, where, for the entire 90 mins we have dominated play and looked unstoppable. Or indeed, seen a match where all eleven players are at their best. Sherwood has only been in charge for 5 weeks and we have Won 5 and drawn 1, without playing great football. We have looked shaky at times in most of those games. Nevertheless, knowing that we have played with a weakened defence for most of the season and that 6 of our 7 summer signings have all had injuries and, all have taken time to settle, we find ourselves sharing 4th spot with a team that has been on fire. Our recent form must be doing some good for our team spirit and confidence. With this in mind and with key players returning, I can only see us improving with every game. If we can give City a run for their money next week and prove we have what it takes, then for me top 3 or 4 is possible. We'll see.
MAN ON!
22/01/2014 11:11:00
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Ossie ... can't fault your logical thinking about finishing 6th but we are in with a shout of 4th now. Seems a totally different team with TS Chavli ... I wouldn't like to see Holtby or Capoue sold. Loaned out maybe but rather keep them on the books. I think Holtby will really improve and become a fixture in out team, that's if he can adhere to Tim's discipline requirements. Same for Capoue too.
longtimespur
22/01/2014 11:14:00
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chavli....I do understand what you are saying regarding getting some "Real" talent in. trouble being, we have spent circa £30 million(inc. add ons) on Lamela and Eriksen is only now being given a run in preferred role. How can we spend money on these players and then bench them for another whom we may feel is better?. Let's not forget, Lamela came with a big reputation, same as Reus will. If we had played Lamela and Eriksen for a season or two, then yes i'm all for looking into signing another if they have been deemed a failure. Who's to say Reus or Bernard won't struggle like Lamela?. There are no guarantees, you can argue that they are quality, thing is, so is Lamela. I think you wishing to sign players mentioned is more out of a frustration at not as of yet seeing a continual return from the likes of Lamela and Eriksen. The only side to concentrate on IMPO is the Left. Maybe wrong to do Townsend a dis-service as he is himself has not featured much there. Reus or Bernard for a Left role, i'd happily go along with. That to me is i'd suggest an upgrade.
Cider spurs
22/01/2014 11:15:00
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Mata would be a first class signing for you but it wont happen, don't think you will spend that much (transfer fee and wages) and not sure, with all due respect, that he'd go to you.

Take 5 or 7 points from the next 3 games and I'd see you grabbing 4th, anything less will make it very tough.

Oh and I'll be cheering you lot on next week, feel all dirty saying that!

;-)

Galway Gooner
22/01/2014 11:17:00
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off topic but here's an interesting article from the Vital Everton site. The Football Association have fined Everton after finding them guilty of an unauthorised approach of a player. The fine of £45,000 along with a warning over future conduct follows a breach of the FA's Football Agent Regulations. The incident took place in 2010 when Everton made an unauthorised approach to Jamaal Lascelles who at the time was under a scholarship agreement at Nottingham Forest. Read more: http://www.everton.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=346498#ixzz2r7ozL54fite.
longtimespur
22/01/2014 11:19:00
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We are going to ***** up on goal difefrence, mark my words. Too many ifs to give damn just yet, If Suarez keeps fit, if RVP and WR return on fire, if Tim acn keeop up the momentum, if my aunty had balls she would be my uncle. far to early in the season for this kind of analysis.
johna
22/01/2014 11:20:00
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You are also looking at 2 strikers playing a lot of football over the next few months with Europa league and then another game on Sunday. The whole Sunday, Thursday, Sunday routine is a tough one to do and I'd be worried with Defoe going you have no real options to rotate or rest players. It's a big ask and Berbatov on loan or even a perm deal could well make the difference, appreciate he's lazy sometimes and didn't leave you on the best of terms but having him to play the odd league game could win you those few extra points.
Galway Gooner
22/01/2014 11:22:00
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Spurs-stelios - we haven't a hope of winning the champs league! While we are very good I think Munich are a level above us, they are miles ahead in their league and can afford to rest players every week.

Long as we don't have a complete melt down I don't mind bowing out to these guys, and naturally we avoid any injuries!

Galway Gooner
22/01/2014 11:26:00
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Cheers ox , really good article. I hate to say it but Chelsea for the league for me. City have a lot of tough games away from home. Arsenal have a very tough couple of months. Chelsea looking stronger every week. If arsenal lose a couple in feb, and the chasing pack keep winning they are only a couple of points off the top 4 chasers. We need a few scalps of the teams around us. Pool and toffees, we have a good shout in those games with the more positive tactics we are deploying, and with the injuries nearly back we will be stronger. Arsenal ya home, doable, Chelsea and city tough, but a point out of either would help massively. Just gotta keep beating the teams below us and 2 or 3 wins v the teams above or around us could well secure it for us. Arse will miss walnut, another injury and they could well fall back to us! Fingers crossed and enjoy the ride!
Dublin Hotspur
22/01/2014 11:26:00
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chavli, you seem to be missing one important factor, we are Spurs not City! To be honest with you I'm happy with our squad and I can't see reason for the wholesale changes that you desire, half way through the season. (More team adjustments and an even bigger selection headache for our Tim). We need to work on improving the already highly talented players we have. We're not doing too badly, after all. It's all about teamwork now, let's not upset the applecart.
MAN ON!
22/01/2014 11:29:00
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Dublin - very confident of beating us at WHL - considering we have the best away record in the league (and the best defence) and you lot have a very average home record. Draw or maybe a sneaky away win for me if had to call it at this stage but a lot can and will happen between now and then.

Theo is a miss but in fairness he's only started 6 or 7 league games for us this season and we've don't alright without him.

You are dreaming if you think Arsenal will get caught up in the top 4 race.

Galway Gooner
22/01/2014 11:30:00
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Don't you go anywhere near my applecart!....GET OFF MY LAND!!, GET OFF I TELL YA!!.
Cider spurs
22/01/2014 11:34:00
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Man on- wholesale changes? A few out a couple in..we all agree need a LB & Striker i'm just saying lets try upgrade our dross.
chavli
22/01/2014 11:36:00
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Don't shoot me, I'm a Spurs fan!
MAN ON!
22/01/2014 11:37:00
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chavli…..One man's dross is another mans favourite player…
MAN ON!
22/01/2014 11:39:00
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He he, it's all a laugh on here. I think we have a bright future currently, so it's all good. We all like different players but all agree we could do with another striker..it's hard though. Got to love the window though, gives people something to talk about..I really enjoy deadline day such a laugh watching sky sports news all day..just hope we get something done or I'll be disappointed!
chavli
22/01/2014 11:41:00
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All we can do is win our games, and let the others worry about us, rather than us getting an inferiority complex about the likes of Liverpool and Man Utd, I think Everton will hit a bad patch, every club does, and they haven't yet. Man Utd look set to spend in what is left of the window, with Mata looking a certainty, but is he going to settle immediately and bring about an instant transformation, I doubt it, and in any case they are 6 points adrift of us, which we should ensure is maintained, by winning at least as often as them. The main concern I have for us is up front, Adebayor is currently on fire, but will that last for another 16 games. Soldado is to be fair to the guy, and in all honesty, a waste of space from a scoring point of view, and should not be selected purely to justify his transfer fee. This leaves us with a choice between Kane, Chadli, and Lamela, not exactly likely to set the world on fire, or inspire extremes of confidence. The other thing that will possibly come back to bite us on the arse, as many of us said when "Lap Top man" was plying his negative sideways, backwards, slow slow quick slow slow tactics, resulting in either narrow wins, or horrendous defeats as against Man City, and Liverpool, which ruined our GD stats. In a tight league season GD is worth a point. In short I believe the 4th spot is likely to boil down to a "Gunfight at the OK coral" between us and Liverpool. They are almost totally dependent on Luis Suarez, both for his qualities as a goal scorer, and as a cheat able to con penalties. Surely either or both must dry up, if only temporarily, before the end of the season. COYS.
Frank
22/01/2014 11:41:00
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I don't see any of the players you mention as being dross……….
MAN ON!
22/01/2014 11:42:00
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Completely forgot about the Europe League TBH. I think that the need for another striker really boils down to the preferred system of TS. IF for the majority of fixtures he wants to play with 2 out and out strikers i.e. Adebayor & Soldado then we definitely need one. If he is going to opt for more of a 4-3-3 with one central striker and 2 attacking forwards we might be ok. We have an abundance of midfielders so that won’t be an issue. Assuming nobody leaves we still have sandro Pauninho Dembele Capoue Bentaleb Holtby all who could play in the central 3 with Lennon Townsend Eriksen Chadli Lamela who could play either side of a central striker

If we get anything out of the city game it’s a bonus. IMO to finish in the top 4 as well as beating the likes of Hull, Cardiff etc we cannot lose to Liverpool or Everton. A win should be the target BUT we cannot give them a 3 point boost. Really surprised at the lack of movement by anyone this window, then again its usually the case in January with the big teams, always leave it until the last minute. I imagine once one goes through the dominos will fall. As each day goes by I seriously doubt we will bring anyone in of any merit. Maybe just another youth player or something.
hudderspur
22/01/2014 11:51:00
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If it comes down to it, our final 6 games all look like 3 points. I'm hoping they'll be more than 4th riding on them anyway. Tim's doing a great job so far but I think he's benefiting from taking over at just the right time. All season long everyone has been saying that at some point "this Tottenham team will click".....I think it's clicked.
Himwhatwhats
22/01/2014 11:52:00
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Himwhatwhats.. What is a positive for me is that I don't think they have really clicked yet.
MAN ON!
22/01/2014 11:55:00
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Same here Man On, I dont believe we have clicked yet, just think we have changed the way we play, players are playing with more creative freedom.
Ossie
22/01/2014 11:58:00
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Same here Man On, I dont believe we have clicked yet, just think we have changed the way we play, players are playing with more creative freedom.
Ossie
22/01/2014 11:58:00
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With the the home turn already started, i'm thinking more and more that Lescott could be a massive help for us. If we can get the defence back looking mean with the chances we are creating the other end we should excel. At present i'd be all for getting Lescott in and playing him LB. the guy is still quick and strong. good defender to have to defend set pieces. yes we might lose Roses' attacking ability, but in all fairness at present are we really benefitting from great deliveries whippe in by Danny?, NO. I'd sooner have a meaner defence, at present Rose is not offering too much. Let's still play our current brand of football, but be a harder prospect to break down. Left side still seems to be exploited, Walker, Kaboul, Verts and Lescott looks tidy to me. Lescott obviously offering cover for CB. I feel signings like this could be the difference between top 4 and failure. Not a "Superstar" signing, but an old fashioned warrior still capable of putting in a performance, quick, strong, knows the prem, and has a World cup berth to aim towards for inspirational performances. If we stick with Rose, i fear for top 4. Not saying i want to completely go down the Redknapp and Ryan Nelson route, but i do feel Lescott still has alot to offer and would work his nuts off.
Cider spurs
22/01/2014 12:00:00
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