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Jeepers Keepers!

Two Tottenham keepers are in the news today. One probably departing and the other one perhaps hinting at a summer move, should Spurs fail to make the top four. With the other keeper the oldest player in the Prem, the No1 position, suddenly comes into the spotlight as a potential problem for next season.

Firstly, and I must say that the comments might well have been twisted to suit an agenda, but Hugo Lloris has supposedly hinted of a move away, should Spurs fail to make next seasons Champions League. As with one or two other players, Llois wanting and expecting CL football is hardly surprising, as he is one of the best in the world at his position, whilst also having a great mix of relative youth (at 27) and experience to make him a player that would surely be attractive to a few elite teams across Europe.

One thing that concerns me at WHL is that he remains an almost unique keeper in terms of how he plays and adopts the sweeper/keeper ethos, that is far more proactive that other Prem keepers and you would imagine is ideal for a club like Barcelona, who like to play a high line. We have repeatedly discussed the problem with having different mentalities with out two keepers since the arrival of Lloris, but if you are wanting to bring in a like for like keeper to Hugo, is that almost impossible, or alternatively do we look for a more Steady Eddie type in terms of having a more traditional model for the future.

For our second keeper, it seems that Heurelho Gomes, might at last be on his way, with pics of him being in Eindhoven, with you assume a return to PSV. Personally I would be very happy for Gomes, as I feel he has been unfairly treated at Spurs or at least unluckily so. Sure Gomes makes some howlers, but so has Lloris at times. Where our Brazilian suffers for me is that he creates uncertainty in our defence with a will he/won't he problem when coming for a ball. With Lloris, you know pretty certainly that he will go for it, whilst in the case of Friedel, the opposite applies that he will let his defence deal with it, however both are consistent in their ways. Gomes, wasn`t.

Should we lose Gomes, there is the question over whether we will bring in a new third choice or promote Jordon Archer to the role? I suppose much depends on what is happening to Brad in the summer, whether he stays or goes, whilst the same may sadly apply to Hugo. Spurs have been linked with Forest keeper Karl Darlow, whilst I also heard a whisper that Reading`s highly rated Alex McCarthy had been looked at. Both are young, English and considered great prospects. You assume should we lose Hugo, we would be looking for a more experienced first choice, but lets hope we nock that CL spot and don`t have to worry about that happening...

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Writer:OxfordSpur
Date:Monday January 27 2014
Time: 8:42AM

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Catches win matches!
Mix26
27/01/2014 08:45:00
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I think Hugo is an outstanding keeper and one of the worlds best, however he is getting ott with closing down the ball when it's not necessary. Non the less I will accept those mistakes but in truth we need a solid backup as we have seen with other gk when their form drops it becomes a costly affair for the team. Hugo needs competition and or a good understudy. I seriously doubt Hugo would have spoken out of turn as he strikes me as an honest gentleman.
Mix26
27/01/2014 08:51:00
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Hugo story has been blown out of all proportion, this is the rubbish that happens when spurs have a very quite window. Don't know what happened to gomes that he couldn't at least establish himself as our back-up keeper especially with brad gone this summer!
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 08:52:00
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this is all pretty standard stuff, quality international players want CL and if they dont get it for a couple of seasons they will look away. i would say the two most obvious here are Lloris and Verts, both highly sought after, we missed a golden opportunity last season if we miss out this season which is a much tougher ask expect a couple of big names to leave. Good luck to Gomes, I agree Ox he hasn't been treated that well here at all.
tophobunty1882
27/01/2014 08:58:00
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Lloris is without doubt the best keeper in FIFA 14 UT :) #justsayin
South L/Derry Spurs
27/01/2014 09:03:00
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Lloris said he hadn't really thought about it which is the bit that's seemingly been ignored by the press. TBH though I have no problem with any of our players having that ambition and being vocal about it even with the threat of leaving. Far more of a worry would be if any of our players didn't have that ambition and are happy to just go through the motions just to pick up a pay cheque.
flipper
27/01/2014 09:25:00
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LLoris is a great keeper, however I would stop talking about "world's best" stuff until his recent run of minor errors reduces. We do not need a "sweeper keeper", (AVB did), and no matter what the position is, there is no such thing as the ideal, like-for-like replacement unless the guy who joins is way better or far less injury prone than his predecessor. Simply get a quality keeper, who makes very few mistakes. Gomes was always going to see his contract out, which is a shame, as he did deserve to be playing somewhere. But he took the money over playing, so I do not go with the idea that he had been treated badly. In Summer, keeper was not seen as a priority, so Brad was always going to be back up. This summer, I doubt that he will still be our no.2, but fine for now. If Lloris DOES go, then that would mean that we would have to bring in 2 keepers. Does that mean that we should buy a 1 senior and 1 junior keeper, or should we buy 2 senior keepers, and make them fight for position? I personally would go for the 1 senior/1 junior idea, but make sure the the junior is good enough to play the cup games and gain experience.
TonyRich
27/01/2014 09:28:00
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Clubs i'm sure will come in for many of our players in the summer. CL football may have a role to play in their decision making, that said a good arm around the shoulder and a reminder of all we are trying to achieve should not be ignored. If they wish to play CL football, then they are part of a squad that can make that happen, if we fail, failure partly lays at the feet of the said player. Human nature usually suggests we all wish to achieve in many elements of our life, football is no different.

Contracts whilst are laughed at all too often these days, do give us the opportunity to stand our ground, something i believe we need to be doing all the more often. Yes we can argue about players unhappiness, can't keep a player who wishes to leave. Sorry, yes we can, it's just how we go about reminding the player that Tottenham is the place to be. Modric, Bale, Berbatov, VDV, now maybe Vert's, Lloris and Paulinho. Talent that would not look out of place in any European club team at one point in their carrer. All Spurs players and all the types of players we should have not sold or should be selling. We need a tougher stance, no more stepping stone for players. Some have to accept the fact that when they joined we were not in the CL, but the reason for their signing was to improve our chances of qualification. They need to man up and remember they are part of the reason for failure and get determined to make amends throghout their contract instead of heading for the greener grass at the first available oppotunity.

Yes it can be argued a two way thing, if they are not good enough we look to offload, the thing is, if the player doesn't wish to go, he can easily see out the remainder of his contract, heck,he could even work harder and make a difference. Dawson being a prime example regardless of views on his ability, we're talking ethics. Don't want to hear football is a short career, try working 60-70 hours a weak for little money until retirement age. I know the route i'd take. SHUT UP!, do the job you are paid to do, until your contract finishes put in the performances we signed you for, you never know you might just get to where you aspire to be. Now surely that would be the most satisfying way of doing things.
Cider spurs
27/01/2014 09:36:00
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I always think with keepers such as Lloris and Gomes, they will always make a higher % of mistakes as they take so many more risks than the average GK. Also on too many occasions we hang them out to dry with overly exposing them to opposition attacks
oxfordspur
27/01/2014 09:45:00
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Ive always wondered if during the negotiations of player transfers especially someone with a profile as high as Hugo's whether Levy actually advertises our club as a stepping stone to the bigger clubs, "you come to us and perform, we'll sell you to one of the bigger clubs if your deemed good enough" type of attitude. Which to any player with potential is great news, Levy making money and us fans seeing some of the greatest talent in Europe wearing the shirt.
coys1717
27/01/2014 09:49:00
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Well, if he wants CL football next season he needs to improve his own descision making during games. Man City 14 seconds......REALLY.
pratts bottom
27/01/2014 09:50:00
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Was that a shy dig at Dawson ox ;)
Mix26
27/01/2014 09:50:00
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pratts, that's a good post mate
tophobunty1882
27/01/2014 09:56:00
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Mix26 - well I think that AVB hung Daws out to dry, just as he did with John Terry before Spurs. It is the tactics. You do not play high line without midfield pressure on the ball, but AVB played high line no matter what. Since AVB left both sides, Terry and Daws far less exposed and put in a far more frequent good performance.
TonyRich
27/01/2014 09:58:00
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lol spot on pratts
Mix26
27/01/2014 10:00:00
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pratts, topho - Lloris (the French national captain), leaves team that had CL football the previous 4 seasons to join Spurs, a team that has only been in CL once in its history and not for couple of seasons or so.... He knew what he was doing from the very start. Basically ManU have been stupid in not signing Lloris. Out of the "big boys" of the EPL, ManU are the only with keeper role not nailed down in the past few years. Lloris has maneuvered himself in the shop window a bit by being in a more famous league, and close to ManU. ManU a bit scared of dealing with Levy now, so maybe he will be looking abroad...
TonyRich
27/01/2014 10:05:00
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Great news for Levy if these reports about Lloris possibly wanting away next summer if Tottenham fail to make the Champions League for 14th time in 15 ENIC seasons! These always room for more Spurs stars in Loser Levy's ENIC Auction House...
Pele10
27/01/2014 10:27:00
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No doubt we will see Perez in the future saying how Lloris was born to play for Madrid, Bale saying how much he would suit Madrid and Modric saying that despite never playing with him at Spurs he would be a good edition to the Madrid team! Expect a gentleman's agreement to popup at some point as well. Plus I bet they will come in for Vert and Paul as well :(
spursnoob
27/01/2014 10:32:00
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Levy signed Lloris for 8 million, which could rise to 12 million, so anything over 20 million would be seen as very good BUSINESS for Loser Levy... It's such a buzz supporting a football auction house!
Pele10
27/01/2014 10:34:00
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Tony that's a fair point, i guess it could drive him even harder to want it back in that case? so take Pratts approach and then take a view at the end of the season lloris
tophobunty1882
27/01/2014 10:37:00
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Morning Pele how are you, what odds are you now to be the first internet slander case to take to the courts in a football forum? I think you are putting yourself in a very healthy position here, what do you think mate?
tophobunty1882
27/01/2014 10:39:00
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Perhaps this is why why Loser Levy cashed in on his leading European goalscorer and Premier League impact sub Defoe! If we qualify for the CL and win the Europa, players like Lloris would be happy to stay at Spurs! An unhappy player, a player who wants to WIN silverware in their career is more than happy to go into Loser Levy's auction house and be sworn to secrecy! "Gareth, you get you move to Madrid this summer, but keep it buttoned my boy, I've got thousands of crap 'Bale' Under Armour shirts to flog before your wear your new Adidas kit... Hush, hush my boy...
Pele10
27/01/2014 10:49:00
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I don't want Lloris to leave under no circumstances but having said that I feel along with him there are two or three players that may well feel they want to move on if this seasons turns sour, hence no CL or worse still ending up finishing around 6th or 7th.

If we lost lloris the keepers I like is Krull and the Nottingham Forest keeper, wouldn't mind the Forest keeper as potential future, so if we could buy him and loan him back while Lloris is here that would be a good call imo. Having said that I am not sure about Archer, not seen enough of him. I think we need to think long term, and get a young decent keeper in now who we can back, so in two, three seasons they are ready if Lloris goes. I am not sure Brad should be number 2 he is too different to Lloris and is not getting game time now and will be rusty, we need a number 2 but that is so hard in the PL. Would like to see Archer play so I can get a look at him, is he ever loaned out?.

I think this is a big end to the season, players like Lloris, Vertonghen I think will really want CL next season, I think Sandro is just a happy player at Spurs and will stay even if we don't get CL. I also think Eriksen, Paulinho will stay as it is only their first season, but not sure what is and will happen with Lamela and from what we are hearing Capoue, Chadli and Holtby are looking to leave this window, this leaves us with Soldado, I doubt he will leave if we don't get CL unless the club decide they don't want him.

Players like Townsend and Lennon are Spurs through and through, they will stay, Ade who knows, who would want the unpredictable player, can only see him going if a CL club come in for him and want to pay him huge amounts of money, the rest of the team are not CL players imo.

So as I see it the two players I worry about is Vertonghen and Lloris, the uncertainty of Lamela.
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 10:49:00
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flipper-well said. It would be strange for top players 'not' to have that ambition. Why would players like Lloris stay at Spurs if we keep missing out of CL not because we haven't got the players but because we keep sacking managers, and in this case put a rookie in charge. I have no problem if he said that, it is up to the club to make the right appointments with the manager and coaching team so that the players can have some stability and improve their game.
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 10:53:00
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Lloris, Levy, Lionel Blair, nor anyone has said anything about Hugo going anywhere, apart from a few football headline writers.
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 11:07:00
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you are on a role Pele go for it, makes me smile anyway.
tophobunty1882
27/01/2014 11:09:00
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Keep going Pele. You may or may not be correct over every individual issue but you are correct in your main issue. A voice of reason amongst the statistical apologists!
Harry-Kari
27/01/2014 11:27:00
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Great goalkeepers are few and far between and in my eyes Lloris is one of the best……….. No top notch keeper is going to sit out matches week in and week out. (Gomes may be the exception). A reserve goalie is likely to be either an older guy toward the end of his career, (Brad), or a talented youngster, on his way up, (Archer)? Friedel was brought in to steady the ship when Heurelho was rocking the boat and loosing confidence. Brad did just that and has proved reliable and steady, if not outstanding…… With Gomes leaving and Brad nearing the end, we need a match day reserve and their understudy. Is Archer ready to step up? I don't know. At this moment all 4 keepers are in the first team squad, so if that's to continue we will need 2 keepers to step in. The dilemma being who is good enough but willing to be understudy to Lloris? Again, I don't know.
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 11:39:00
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Sun is shining, weather is sweet………..
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 11:40:00
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Lime green Lloris !?
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 11:44:00
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Well done pele10 for puking on another article, suffice to say that no Hugo is not sold,no Hugo has not requested to leave and non of your fantasy statements are even debatable. I can't imagine to think what would happen should levy sell his Merc on Gumtree and pele gets word of it! Players are sold every window dear boy, yes nobody was happy to lose Modric and Bale but hell like most undesirable instances in life we man the phuck up and get over it! Spurs are a top club competing with clubs who financially stronger, more attractive and proven recent success. The FACTS are there but you fail to EVER point them out.
Mix26
27/01/2014 11:45:00
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Top players will always have the ambition to play CL football, Lloris should be no different. As for Gomes, I do not believe that he has been unfairly treated. For two years he was 1st choice and whilst making some amazing match winning saves he also made far too many basic handling errors, which cost us too many points/games. He never really got used to being marked by the opposing attacker at corners, often flapped at crosses and his kicking was average. He has not played for us in over two years and I assume he is only still here because he was too expensive (transfer fee and wages) for the level of club that were interested in him. Both AVB & Harry clearly did not rate him and in the end he has run his contract down instead of cutting his losses and going off to play football.
Paul - THFC Forever
27/01/2014 11:47:00
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Tony unfortunately I cant agree re Dawson, tactics are not built around one player and Dawson was just lucky his 'competition' was injured.
Mix26
27/01/2014 11:48:00
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I've just read that Gomes has stated he's going nowhere just yet…….. Ah well, what does one choose to believe in the bulli**** world of football journalism……? I've also heard a rumour that Messi's been seen in a kebab shop on the Seven Sisters Road. A stones throw from WHL……….. A loan deal is on the cards, but only if Levy lets him wear his favoured Nike kit…...
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 12:03:00
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Just to expand on Pele's line of thinking, what really are the options for a football club (any club) when a transfer offer comes in for a player? Option 1 - Club don't want to sell and Player doesn't want to leave probably a very rare senario these days. Option 2 Club doesn't want to sell but player wants to leave - we've been here a few times! so what should the club do? Sell for as much money as they can get as quickly as possible so they have time to get ina replacement (but probaly knowing that they won't really able to repalce the star tey've just lost)? Say not for sale or over price the player to scare off the other clubs but then have a disgruntled (star) player on the books? Who either lets his form slip or goes on strike, either way you have a big wage and investment which is suddenly offering very little return while their market value decreases, at best the player still performs but you're never going to get 100% again. Or do you let him rot in the reserves and run down his contract? effectively steal 2-3 years of his career from him? Option 3 the club want to sell but the player doesn't want to leave, ironically we've been here a couple of times recently as well, (Dawson and Ade) club can't really loose here, we sell we get the money, we don't sell and the player knuckles down and tries to prove their worth or a player who is not in the team plans still isn't in the team plans but won't complain about not getting game time! The last Option the club wants to sell and the player wants to leave but no-one comes in with a bid that suits. Again we've been here with Bentley and Gomes horrible situation for all concerned! Am I missing anything? what other options exist and has anyone figured out how a club can protect its top assests, without a knock on negative effect, if a bigger club comes sniffing around
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:12:00
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Slurms McKenzie… You're logic is simple but true. I'm not sure why anyone would disagree…… ;-)
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 12:18:00
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Man On there are only three reasons I can think of why some one would dis-agree and you've covered them already, (Logic, Simple, True!)
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:21:00
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Slurs to be fair, u have pointed out several aspects of why players move, change, get sold, retire or just chill... Suffice to say that's why it is now a business. Its up to the management and the club's hierarchy to make these decisions. I don't for one second think we could have stopped Bale, Berba and Modric leaving unless we had a sugar daddy to pay the ridiculous wages. I do however think we would not have sold Caulker or loaned BAE unless we really wanted to. It's business pure and simple, there is 30+ players who are in the the same club with diff contracts, agents, clauses, commitments, and the list goes on! It only comes to light when big money transfers or unsettled players hit the news....Or when pele10 regurgitates it...
Mix26
27/01/2014 12:24:00
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Slurms-Did you miss out player wants to go, clubs doesn't and player is forced to stay and they knuckle down give 110% and score a ***** load of goals, Saurez or they are the best player in the team even after not getting their move, Rooney.
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 12:26:00
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Mix I agree with you re Berba, Modric, Bale etc my only complaint was that these transfers were on teh cards long before the window opened and the club should have planned for the worst and hoped fo rthe best, ie have replacements lined up and prices agreed and be ready to pull the trigger should the worst happen. Now you could argue that Spurs did their business before Bale was sold last summer, but with hind sight it looks like wasted money! (Anyone recall the reviews Modric was gettign last season with Madrid?)Thats the only fair crititism you could level at Spurs and Levy - failure to prepare!
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:29:00
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Paul-you make a good point re Gomes, I think this is something players do, they stay because they don't want a cut in wages, makes you think what their reason is for playing football in the first place. If i was earning what they earned and then was out of favour I would take a cut just to play. I would even pay the difference in valuation if I could afford it. Why do players try to sustain such a high level of income, what can they possibly spend it on.
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 12:30:00
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World Peace it was a factual article not some piece of roy of the rovers type fiction! :-) Yes Suarez seems to be an exception that proves the rule, Rooney got a massive pay off for his "loyalty" and another one on the way (over £300.000 per week!!)
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:32:00
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WP fast cars, fast women and big empty houses ie living the dream?
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:34:00
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Slurms I think Levy tried to conduct the business before selling as with previous issues where clubs realize you just mugged united or RM so we gonna mug u the same. The truth is how do you replace Modric, Bale and Berba? It's fair to say that any transfer will be a gamble, or with patience a sound investment ala Modric
Mix26
27/01/2014 12:35:00
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As things stand we are going to lose our best players, year in year out. We are second tier, the best players will always want to play for a team in the first tier that pays first tier wages and is very likely to offer CL football. We pride ourselves in being well run financially, our board spend within our means so let's be content with the occasional flirt with CL, 'cause that's where we are at.
ItalianYiddo
27/01/2014 12:35:00
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Italian, the crowd up the road were making the same complaints and statements last summer and after they were stuff by Villa on the opening day...
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:38:00
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Rooney and Suarez successfully negotiated massive wage increases in their renewed contracts. Rooney seems to get a new contract most years. How many times has he supposedly threatened to leave United, only to get a huge increase in salary? We cannot afford to do this.
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 12:39:00
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Slurms-yes it was a good factual article which I agree, just asking if the scenario I made was missed lol I am just not sure everything is so 'clear' a fact is only a fact when proven, a fact is not a reality, a reality is a persons perception, their world and human perceptions are distorted, conditioned so everyone's reality is a distorted, conditioned reality, not a fact.

I suppose we could say that when a player is made to stay and they don't perform to 100% that is not a fact, how a player performs is a perception, on what an individual see's (perceives) and even if there is a consenses that the player is not performing to 100% we cannot attribute that to the 'fact' that they were made to stay, human actions are too complicated to do that. Their under performing may had happened any way, besides what is 100% performing, is there such a thing, can a 'perceiver' ever 'know' what 100% is, nothing is static in life, everything is in a state of flux, so can anything be 100%, i think you will find that there is no such thing as 100%, it's just a distorted, perception lol
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 12:42:00
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Mix again without spending massive amounts of money the reality is you can't, what you can do is invest in potential, nurse it along, reap the benefits of it on the pitch for a few seasons and then the benefits of a bumper pay day when you sell on and re-invest in more potential, as long as the threadmillis in sinc i.e the new talent is emerging just as the super star moves on then the impact is greatly reduced. It looked like we had gotten lucky with Bale going and Townsend stepping up. Hopefully we eventually get enough talent coming through that we break int the champions league on a regular basis and can hold onto our talent a bit longer - we're just not there yet!
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:44:00
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Slurms, who's complaining? I am stating facts. Another fact, Arsenal have had CL footie for the last 14 years. Another fact, Arsenal pay higher wages than us.
ItalianYiddo
27/01/2014 12:45:00
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Slurms-exactly, it's all a dream, nothing is real, and eventually we all have to 'wake up' lol
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 12:45:00
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Italian-now that's a 'fact' lol
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 12:47:00
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World Peace, with my tongue firmly in cheek, I thought just putting the word FACT into a statement made it a factual statement! but yes I take your point and as you insist that I admit it then yes I left something out - I believe thats the third mistake I've ever made in my life FACT! I also accept that I have over simplified the impact on players by being kept against their will and tried to atribute a quantitative measurement to a qualitiative situation. And as you've pointed out a slump in form may have been on the cards regardless due to many difference factors.
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:50:00
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Italian, the shower up the road were complaining, I just used them as a reference to show that a finacially sustainable club can also be a top tier club, but at any level having a finacially sustainable club does not win the hearts and minds of the fans.
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 12:53:00
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Slurms- only three mistakes in your life 'FACT' wow, I could say is there such thing as a mistake lol may be everything is made up of polarities, and we just label everything a either a 'success' or a 'mistake' lol Good talking with you. COYS whoever where's the shirt.
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 12:56:00
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'wears'
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 12:57:00
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Now we read Dortmund want Vlad, I seriously think the media make up stories and work on the percentage that one will come true if they write enough stories.
WorldPeace
27/01/2014 12:58:00
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World Peace, prehaps I should view them as learning experiences (Mick Macarthy maintains you learn nothing by winning friendlies!) in which case I've learned very little :-) I enjoyed the chat world peace and had a couple of chuckles aswell.
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 13:00:00
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world Peace re media, kinda like Townsend's approach to shooting, try it enough times and something will go in!
Slurms McKenzie
27/01/2014 13:02:00
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We have some wonderful players. We signed some world class players on the back of we had a long-term plan and we were going places. Our 'plan' is now flimsy to say the least - a novice youth manager, a DoF who felt things were so bad he offered his own resignation and a Chairman who has an awful record of hiring and then firing managers. Our only chance in the short-term is that somehow Sherwood maintains his fantastic start and makes the CL and then either he or the new man can really go into the summer and next season with huge optimism + some extra money to perhaps add to an already great squad. I fear for the likes of Lloris, Verts, Paulinho etc etc if we don't make it. No CL, no proper manager, no new money, dis-harmony in the ranks, no plan. Not a great cocktail. I think we can all agree that we have to be massively behind Sherwood from now to the end of the season - unbelievably important few months. Its a bit of a cross-roads.
StillRickyVilla
27/01/2014 13:08:00
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SRV, Chelsea have no youth, no long term plan, more managers than any club in history over the last ten years, played to an fro with a DOF. Barca hired their youth couch as have ajax. The PL is a tough place to be especially for a manager and suffice to say the managers that don't achieve the goals set out by the chairman ie CL qualification get the chop! Levy has booted MJ, Ramos,Arry and AVB all justifiably and with many fans backing. I dont think it's a cross roads at all, until we have the new stadium and finances to pay Tevez to sit on the bench we will undoubtedly be in the same position each season. United,City and Chelsea can and always will buy the league success, Le Ars have the chance to break the usual but only because of the managers in transition.
Mix26
27/01/2014 13:25:00
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Firstly Lloris has NOT actually said anything about moving. He said he would have to think about things if we didn't get CL. I read this last week, it is ancient history, also there was no sign as to say when those statements were made. Next, I said AGES ago we should have bought Butland as Lloris' understudy. He would have been ideal for us, buy him,send him out on loan to keep his game time up with a return clause built in.
chrishove123
27/01/2014 13:31:00
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WorldPeace, yes, you can force a player to stay but when the player really wants to go, there is not much you can do. Suarez could force a move if he wanted to. Adebayor and his obscene wages aren't even top 10. Suarez is 5th, I believe. We don't pay that type of money. It's one less reason to go. Eventually he too will want CL. If we keep finishing ahead of Pool he will be gone. But yes, players can be forced. Do it and agents and players will take note. Signings and contract extensions will become much harder to secure. It's reality. COYS
peterballb
27/01/2014 13:33:00
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oxford spur Totally agree on the high mistake %, but what people tend to forget is BECAUSE of those risks Lloris takes, he has saved us far more times than he has dropped us in it. It was the same with Gomes, only problem was he made a couple of very high profile clangers, but the amount of times he saved us to get CL was phenomenal.
chrishove123
27/01/2014 13:37:00
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MAN ON! I heard Elvis the other day talking to Greavesy and they were saying that Martin Chivers is coming out of retirement to take over from Soldado. Only what I overheard, they were talking to a Sun reporter at the time.
chrishove123
27/01/2014 13:39:00
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ASMIR BEGOVIC
ghulamville
27/01/2014 13:41:00
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chrishove123, a good shout re: Butland. Stoke have him loaned out to Barnsley at the moment. Surely if he was at Spurs we could arrange an even better loan for him. I'm certain that many teams are watching his progress.
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 13:42:00
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Haha! Welcome back Chivers, we've missed you…..
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 13:44:00
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stoke bought butland on the basis arsenal/liverpool would come on for asmir begovic,this did not happen and butland had to go out on loan-now i wouldnt mind begovic if lloris went
ghulamville
27/01/2014 13:45:00
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Begovic is good……….
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 13:47:00
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I don't think old Harry likes Brazilian goalkeepers…….. What's happened to Júlio César? Is he hanging out in West End bars with Gomes, counting money?
MAN ON!
27/01/2014 13:55:00
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dont buy into the paper rumours much and think thats exactly what they are...coys
rovinella62spurs
27/01/2014 14:02:00
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i think Mix says it as it is in one post here, sure others do also have only read a small collection of stuff...and Slurms says some very good stuff here too....where is Geof with his prediction for wednesday?
tophobunty1882
27/01/2014 14:13:00
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Not sure why but Pele`s posts crack me up.Rubs his hands with glee at the prospect of hammering levy,brilliant.
Fanny adams
27/01/2014 14:29:00
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It's that fab old ENIC apologist stuff on here from the usual Danny Boy fan club members. We haven't got the money to compete with the top 4 even though we have 4.5 billion quids worth of THFC board members. We cant compete with the likes of the Arsenal even during a period when they were carrying a massive 450 million quid stadium debt, even when they had to sell many of their star players to cover the debt, they still made CL every season, still finished above us when we were debt free? And yet we still sell all our star players when we are not in debt? When we have 4.5 billion quids worth of owners? We haven't got the new stadium so we cant compete, but it's not ENIC's fault that they have failed to add no more than a couple of hundred seats in 14 years. I mean how can we possibly blame Loser Levy's pledge to increase stadium capacity 14 years back. It's not his fault, nor Joe Lewis's that they still haven't even raised the budget to build the stadium yet, because they have refused to borrow money from a bank or from any other source for 14 years now... So let's run a healthy football auction house business instead... Danny Boy gets his 2.5 million a year to play Fantasy Football, to buy and sell football players and hire and fire coaches, and DOF's at will, whilst the THFC trophy cabinet stays empty, and big Joe sits there by the pool side waiting for the right moment to cash in as he did with the 5 other football clubs he owned...
Pele10
27/01/2014 14:36:00
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