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Spurs vs Man City...The Report.

Right, a bit different for this report guys and gals. Gonna be short and sweet with a few questions for you to ponder.

First things first, Man City are a very good side, blessed with talent throughout the team that would not look out of place in any top European club, please remember this. So, here goes. City outplayed us for vast parts of the game. Being realistic, we were outplayed. Like it or not, money can buy success. Dzeko could have scored 4 or 5. Was Sherwood right to start Bentaleb over Capoue? Walker is now not only gifting attackers a headstart, he is failing to get back and make amends. Do you agree?. Why yet again does nobody mention the amount of key players we have missing through injury?.

It continues...How was it I knew that once the commentator mentioned that Jovetic had not scored for City, that he would against us?. Mentioned before, ducks are broken against Spurs so often. Why was the Linesman so poor?, No penalty and good goal. Some say it goes full circle, debate away on that one. It ruined the game. What about the formation, are you happy with the way we set up?. Do you think Rose could get his red overturned on appeal? I think we should appeal, perfectly good tackle with the player hitting Rose as opposed to him taking the player out.

Enough of the headwarp, let's get back to a little bit of happiness and the positives we can maybe take from the game. Lloris' save was a beauty, yes conceeded goals, but that was some save. Eriksen, well last couple of weeks he's come on leaps and bounds with his delivery. His corners were brilliant, something we've not witnessed all to often of late from our team. We will have four of our own players who can also warrant a place in any top European club about to return, sprinkled with a few more options in Lamela and Townsend to name a few. In fact the level of player that City keep on the bench in reserve. Toughness of the task becomes more apparent when this is considered. Chelsea drew with W.Ham, We did Arsenal no favours (Negative into a positive).

The same as you guys and gals, i hate it when we lose, this however was to a team whom I honestly believe will win the title, blessed with World class talent throughout, backed by endless funds, with dodgy decisions and a sending off to boot. Apologies for the less than informative article, decisions aside, sometimes we just have to bow down and acccept that we are not yet at this level. Whether that is a money issue, wrong signings issue, or a fundemental problem within our mentality affecting performances is open to debate. Whatever the reason, let's try and regroup, knuckle down and move on. After all, we all support Spurs, what else are we supposed to do?.

Written by Cider Spurs



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Writer:Cider Spurs.
Date:Thursday January 30 2014
Time: 8:34AM

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we are nowhere near as good as some on here think we are.
topspur53
30/01/2014 08:41:00
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Tim Sherwood is just a cheap stop gap till the summer.
topspur53
30/01/2014 08:42:00
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and yes we need a leftback
topspur53
30/01/2014 08:43:00
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Its not the defeat, it is the manner of it, this is happening far too regularly now against the top teams. Senior players are not turning up prepared for a battle. Same mistakes leading to goals conceded. The squad assembled is nothing more then a decent top 6 team. With players only good enough for the PL nothing more. Us the fans ambitions are more bordering on Delusional now.........COYS
WestStandEnclosure
30/01/2014 08:51:00
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Hadn't made my mind up on Tim untill yesterday, don't need a holding mf player? Please against teams of that quality you need 2! I think the squad needs addressing aswell. Dawson - poor, very very poor yesterday but a nice bloke who has played for us for a while so this is okay. Walker needs electric shock therapy to get it in his head defending is his first priority. Rose - unlucky but we still need a left back. Bentaleb - apart from one decent shot I don't get what Tim sees in him but he's young so I'll be patient, just not against teams like City. Dembele - just doesn't cut it in mf for me, too slow in possession, would like to see him at lw or lb, failing that sold. Siggyrdson - truly awful wide player and just no where near good enough to be justified as a 10! If he doesn't score he does nothing! To those who think we should stick with him remember he couldn't get in an average Icelandic team! Our wide players don't excite me any more, I think the whole team needs serious surgery and starting with Tim after that idiotic statement and then setting the team up that openly
spurticus87
30/01/2014 08:54:00
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Our passing was woeful last night. How many times did Dembele/Eriksen pass to the opposition? There is a lack of cohesion in our team that has been there since the start of the season. We don't look like a team, we don't fight like a team, we don't defend as a team, we don't attack as a team. We are not a team, we are 11 individuals who wear the same shirt. Why, oh why is Siggi in the stadium let alone on the pitch. We need someone who can hold the ball and make a pass. Why did Holtby not start instead of Siggi. One of our biggest threats is Lennon, yet no one passed to him, the ball kept going to Rose down the left. We are missing Sandro and Verts, no doubt about that. But Bentaleb was out of his depth last night, Sherwood is showing his naievity by playing him against Yaya Toure. Be in no doubt, this is one hell of a City team, and in some respects they showed us in 2 games why we dont deserve to be on the same pitch as them. We can talk all we like about all our missing players, but you saw the difference between a side which has balance, pace, passing, movement that even an old warhorse like Demichaelis looked comfortable. We lack balance and cohesion, we have some good players, we just need them to become a team. It is also obvious that 1 or 2 are clearly not good enough.
vicspur
30/01/2014 09:00:00
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For me Bentelab was by no means the worst of out players so to single him out is very harsh. First half Siggy, Ade, Erikson, Lennon were all terrible. Rose just doesn't convince me as a LB. He did win the ball for the penalty but he was also the wrong side which created the problem for himself. He should appeal and should win because he won the ball.

Dawson gave 100% but against the likes of Aguero he needs 200%. Bad decision to player hiim, even worse decision if we can't offload him in the next 2 days. Dembele looks better further forward although the tackle from Yaya must of hurt the guy and could well have been a straight red too.

To be honest I didn't expect us to win, the 50% on the poll are in cuckoo land. I though a draw would have been a great result for us but lady luck wasn't on our side and let's be honest it could hae been 4-0 at half time.

I was looking at the league table last night and our goal difference is simply embarrassing, we are 29 goals behind Liverpool who sit in 4th place. The positive is, City are likely to beat everyone else in the coming months so no major damage if we can get back on track against Hull. We need to go on a run again, build the convidence up and get some of our better players on the field.
yiddyboy
30/01/2014 09:01:00
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The only positive to take from this game is, Danny Rose played the ball out for a corner, we should appeal against the sending off. As for the rest of it, forget it and move on to the next game, Hull away.
spu 4 life
30/01/2014 09:05:00
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Cider good article but people are not reading it correctly, there is at present 6 first teamers missing and i have just read that so and so is not good enough or TS is the wrong manager, hello read the article and who have played man c and not had there arse kicked
spurs50yrs
30/01/2014 09:07:00
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Daws was never the right call against Aguero...I thought Tim watched the last game? We need a LB....yes Rose got the ball but diving in from behind is always asking for a card...Bentaleb needs a loan to learn his game and prove himself at the mo he's not a DM and not creative, what is he? looks like a new JJ to me....but we need to keep our other CM's it's the one area where we have quality..Pauli, Dembele, Capoue and Sandro are all top4 quality. Yevhen Konoplyanka...would add balance on our left....but I suspect we won't do any incoming business....
shedboy2
30/01/2014 09:10:00
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Made this note on another post....1 point from 15 against the top 4...2 from 18 including everton....That is not a CL side. We all need to reassess what the club can do with the players we have. However, i think Paulhino, Sandro, Verts and Kabbom would all play if fit and perhaps we dont get drilled? But we have reall problems with Walker and Rose. SImply terrible defensive full-backs. Dawson too slow and Chiriches is like a Kamakhaze pilot running out of his line at the midfield!
jhbspur
30/01/2014 09:10:00
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We need our injured players back and quick, yesterday was not a good performance, too many players didn't play well. We couldn't cope with them for the first 15 minutes. Wouldn't mind Townsend and Lamela back for a change up, Lennon poor lately and siggy isn't spurs quality. Sandro and Paulinho need to be involved too. It is not a shock that we lost to City but the way we played was disappointing.
Kong
30/01/2014 09:11:00
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Loser Levy must be gutted this morning! Not about the result of course, because his reign as THFC Fantasy Football Chairman has been littered with humiliating results for 14 long seasons... What the spoilt rich kid is devastated about this morning is not the result, but the injury to Dembele, which creates a major dilemma for the Scrooge's apprentice! Let me explain, Loser Levy had his heart set on selling Capoue within the next few hours to get those ENIC balance sheets looking even more healthy and possibly to provide him with some more Fantasy Football pocket money... But that's all in ruins now with this latest injury setback. What made it worse for Levy of course was that Capoue actually scored last night, so he couldn't possibly sell him now, especially with both Sandro and Pauli struggling for fitness, could he???
Pele10
30/01/2014 09:11:00
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Irrespective of the poor decisions that went against, the scoreline did not flatter them. They were awesome and we were simply pathetic in our defensive organisation throughout the team. Squad players or not the ability to cover back and keep the ball when in possession was abysmal. This was a big black mark against Tim too as confidence will now drain away and there is now a good chance that the season will fizzle out from a strong position. Let's hope it was a wake up call and our midfield and defence will reassert itself when the good guys return.
Love totty
30/01/2014 09:12:00
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i thought that when you play a top side, the idea is to get stuck into them early to put them off their stride, not sit back and watch them play. They have been given tough matches in all their away games this season - except this one. I accept we got the worse of the decisions but we have had so many go for us this season, that we can't really complain. What we are seeing now is the result of gross mis management of the footballing side by our owners. changing from one manager to another, from one philosophy to another and failing to invest properly from the moment we qualified for the Champions League (we are net sellers since then). I still remember Daniel Levy telling us not to expect regular Champions League football when we first qualified. They are clearly just looking for us to maintain top half premier league status and hope to sell the club when the stadium is built - if it is ever built. A little advice though Daniel, don't build the stadium. We will never fill it. We couldn't even sell out last night. There were loads of empty spaces around me. The season ticket waiting list is largely filled up with members who don't want season tickets. When the current issues re the property around the ground are resolved, I wonder what the next issue to delay the build will be!! I don't blame Sherwood in all this. He is an in-experienced manager thrown in at the deep end and is doing an OK job, although I think it was a mistake to play Bentaleb last night. Not looking good at all for our club.
jonathan01
30/01/2014 09:12:00
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Our record agaianst the top four. Played 5. 1 point. Two goals scored and 18 conceded. Does anyone think we are going to get anywhere near the top four?
jonathan01
30/01/2014 09:17:00
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jonathan01 I do. We can still beat liverpool. They did well in the derby, but a villa should have won at Anfield. Liverpool have big weaknesses at the back.
logos8
30/01/2014 09:20:00
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logos8...our defence is weaker and their strikers are better. the 29 goal gap on goal difference is very clear...
jhbspur
30/01/2014 09:22:00
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I'll be absolutely honest, I was completely baffled by our mentality and our approach yesterday. We took to the pitch already beaten in our heads. Our manager had insinuated as much in his PRE-match press conference and our players played looking scared and as if they didn't feel they were worthy to be on the same pitch as the City players. Now, don't get me wrong. City are a very good side but, for the love of all things holy, so can we be. We have the players what we lack is the belief, conviction and ambition to back ourselves. We play like we're scared. Dare I say we play like cowards? We were at home yesterday, the least we should have been able to deliver was a performance full of fight and a refusal to accept defeat. Instead from the first minute to the last some of our players looked like they were just waiting for the inevitable to happen. They failed to realise and understand that they were on the pitch to have an impact and had the opportunity to do something about making the apparent inevitable avoidable. This happens too often with us and I, for one, am getting bloody fed up with it. I'm going to name some names. Walker (brainless), Lennon (scared), Sigurdsson (invisible), Dembele (dazed & disinterested), Dawson (slow and cumbersome) all looked like the proverbial rabbit transfixed by the onrushing City headlights. Pitiful, humiliating and embarrassing from experienced professionals. Eriksen and Bentaleb looked overawed by the pace and skill of City. I'll cut them some slack as they're new to the PL. However, that excuse wears thin as the games tick on by. The only players (in my humble opinion) who played like they believed they could mix it with and cut it amongst the exalted company of City's players were Lloris and Chiriches. Yes we shipped 5 goals (again!) but at least Hugo and Vlad were calm and composed when in possession and looked like they truly believed they have the personal ability and class to have an impact against a team like City. Vlad sold a series of dummies to the onrushing City players to create space and time for himself. For once he made them look ordinary and him the world-beater. Unfortunately that only happened once or twice in the whole game. That is sad for a team with pretensions of the top 4. Having no real belief and the chutzpah to back yourself and have a REAL go results in no success. That's what we've suffered from for decades as a club. And by the way Mr Sherwood you don't help by fawning and salivating about the greatness of the opposition. Your job, in case you'd failed to notice, is too instil a level of self-belief, ambition, discipline and fight in your team so that when they take to the pitch they ACTUALLY believe they can win. That didn't happen at all yesterday. It's time we developed a spine so at least we try to fight back. At the moment teams bend us over and take it in turns to shag us. If you at least offer some resistance it's classed as assault, if you just invite the next one in then you're just a sorry old slag. I'm fed up of supporting a bunch of overpaid, scared sorry old slags. Apologies if I've offended anyone and for the long post.
SpuriousLife
30/01/2014 09:23:00
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On the subject of scoring, don't you think it's a bit strange that Defoe has not seen a single second of game time since scoring that cracker when he came on as an impact sub 3 games back??? Has Danny Boy instructed his yes man coach not to cause him further embarrassment! I mean, imagine how foolish Danny boy would look if Defoe went on one of his goal scoring streaks he is famous for just before flying off to Canada, instead of ending his Tottenham career in glory in Turin...
Pele10
30/01/2014 09:27:00
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I said on the previous post that Dembele (apart from some dodgy passing) had the better of Yaya and in return gave Dembele one of the most cynical fouls I've seen in a long time. The only plus for me was Ade. He gave it his all. COYS!
James1
30/01/2014 09:28:00
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logo8. Do you really think we are capable of beating Liverpool. We have such a weak mentality against the better clubs, I can only see one result - that goes for games v Chelsea and Arsenal too.
jonathan01
30/01/2014 09:29:00
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After a 6 hours of being out in the p***ing rain, its hard to explain the frustration as the Man city winger running the line clearly ruined the game, but based on 11 vs 11, we were cr*p. Disjointed, Lazy we looked like boys playing men, passing to people surrounded by Blue shirts, barely any attacking intent, Adebayor at one stage was rolled the ball on the wing in his own half? Sherwoods insistence of playing Benteleb is starting to annoy , its like his name is first on the team sheet every game, why? he's a decent player but no where near ready for a game like Man city, Rose, made some great challenges down in the corner but his crossing is complete dog turd. We were loosing aerial battles, heavy footed, they wanted to win that game, while we looked like scared little kids. On a separate note, a red card for denying a goal scoring opportunity is a stupid rule, your being punished twice for the same offence, that essentially rapped up the game for city.
coys1717
30/01/2014 09:31:00
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After last night, in the minds of the media and the neutral fan we go back to being the underdog for a top 4 finish, which is when Spurs are best, written off with no pressure. I still think we can take the fight to Liverpool, although given Suarez form 5th place is the likely outcome this season.
MrSpurs
30/01/2014 09:33:00
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Daswon is shocking, we cant beat top teams with him in our team !! Rose is a mid table left back at best, ive thought that for a long time !! Today i am sad :( Ouch
LOcE1980
30/01/2014 09:35:00
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we are a 5th -6th place team at best.liverpool will get 4th.All good honest opinions this morning.Walker, Dawson not good enough for top four side.if we sell anybody now we will show how little planning there is at the moment. Tim is just keeping the chair warm till the summer.agree about loaning out Bentaleb.
topspur53
30/01/2014 09:35:00
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http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/manchester-city-thrashing-is-unacceptable-we-have-to-push-our-level-higher--tottenham-goalkeeper-hugo-lloris-9095235.html
rahn DMC
30/01/2014 09:36:00
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I had us down for a 3-1 defeat, so add in the diallowed goal, pen, sending off and its sadly as expected, well for me anyway. What we need to to now is to forget this now and move forward, get players back in fit and have a very strong run from now. We need Rose appeal to avoid sticking Verts straight back at LB, or buy a left back plus one other. It was obvious at the start after the team was selected that he got it wrong, Capoue for Siggy and he got it as right as he could with the injured players probably not 100%. To me i wouldn't have risked them because I think we would have lost with them just returning, that was a no brainer for me. It's gone, it was awful.
tophobunty1882
30/01/2014 09:39:00
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jonathan01- good post...It's all about the stadium...that's what levy said was his priority, that's why we have a land economy grad running the club after they have bought and sold several clubs before...it's about moving land around...not about winning or success on the pitch (that's a bonus)...the season ticket list is a mirage that will be used to lure in a buyer and then ENIC will leave with Spurs fans paying off their profit for a generation....
shedboy2
30/01/2014 09:40:00
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To get all of this into perspective we are suppose to be in a crisis with a manager who has no experience at all, at any level in the game. We just played one of richest and arguably the best club team in the world, certainly one if the top 5. So yes it's bad, yes it's painful, but we needs to remember that we have beaten some good sides recently away from home and there is still hope for CL football.
MrSpurs
30/01/2014 09:44:00
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Topho- the only thing that I can say in Tim's defence is that maybe he thought without Siggy as an outlet defeat was inevitable. Naive in my view as an honourable defeat was way preferable to this downer.
Love totty
30/01/2014 09:45:00
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I dont normally read the long posts, but Spurious Life's nailed it IMO.
coys1717
30/01/2014 09:45:00
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Cider, cheers for the article. Having slept on this and watched the highlights this morning( why did I do it to myself) I accept we were beaten by the better team, and in truth I wasn't expecting to come away with anything from the match, especially when I saw the line ups for both teams. If I had a grand spare and could bring myself to back against spurs, city would have been a super bet at even money. However I don't think the score line told the full story and I want to throw a few positives from my point of view, from the game. We started badly, as we always do, and were lucky to be only 1-0 down after half an hour. But we did start to build momentum and go at them then. I thought it was a goal, and being 1-1 at half time could have made things very different, especially when aguero went off. The penalty and sending off was the real changing point, and playing 10 against city is a list cause, and they over ran us and it could have been a cricket score. Some players that stood out for me. Eriksen from a dead ball is lethal. Threatened with every free kick and corner. Chiriches, controlled and confident, ade, full of running and loved when he was pushing yaya off the pitch when he was subbed, capoue, proved his international quality, strong, aggressive and hungry. And scored. Hugo, much better positioning and a great save. I believe he closed dzeko down to the point he couldn't see the goal and missed his chances. Now get the 5 or 6 injured boys back and with a bit more cohesion we can still beat some of those teams around us. COYS
Dublin Hotspur
30/01/2014 09:48:00
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I think there was not a Spurs fan in the world (apart from loser Levy) who believed we had a hope in the world in last nights game when we saw that Sigurdsson had been selected to play ahead of the improving Chadli last night. I mean, every Tottenham fan on the planet has sussed that Danny Boy's welcoming gift to AVB, Siggy, is just not up to the task, except for Loser Levy of course! I mean lets not forget that Levy signed JJ not just once, but went on to give him two improved contract extensions, making him the most played 'creative' central midfielder in the entire Daniel Levy Fantasy Football career... You could not have made it up...
Pele10
30/01/2014 09:48:00
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jonathan01 a villa dominated liverpool at anfield and should have won. if aston villa can do it so can we.
logos8
30/01/2014 09:52:00
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Jebus lads you didn't exactly help me out now did you?

City once again got a lot of poor calls in their favour, seems to happen a lot for them in all the big games, but having said that they fully deserved the win.

You backline looks so bad at the moment, not sure what formation or tactics Tim was playing last night but you looked like a team all over the shop.

Thanks for nothing Spuds.

Galway Gooner
30/01/2014 09:56:00
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It is fair to say TS made a mistake last night with his team selection & a few other technicalities, but since his inception as Spurs Manager he has done more good than harm. I won't assess him from 1 game, though its the best benchmark to assess him against. I'm sure he'd learn from it, but I least expect him to come out stating they're the "Best team in the Planet?" What Planet does he know to refer to them with such an accolade. After Citey's games against Chelsea (PL & FA Cup) & Barca in CL, we would know exactly in who's Planet they're the best in. It belittles him as a Manager & us as a team as we're in the same league & still beat the same team last season. Albeit, they're a good side (better than us at the moment), but good sides get beaten as long as you play AN ORGANISED TEAM against them. That was totally missing.... Walker & Rose were always out of position and had to chase... but more worryingly DAWSON. Surely, you would have thought he'd learnt a lesson or 2 from his 1st experience against Aguero/Dzeko (And all the Citey players). Why give players so much space to settle on the ball, turn you and RUN towards your slow coach Arse!!! I cannot comprehend it? Why is he still playing for us? Kompany was right behind Adebayor (ALL NIGHT) and rendered him USELESS that all his silly dribbling skills were nullified after his 1st touch. Defoe would have had more joy IMO. Playing Bentaleb was wrong & Yes, I cannot see beyond Rose's red card being rescinded. Anyway, All isn't lost yet but we now have Hull; Everton; Newcastle; Norwich & Cardiff AND I really expect Tim to get 15/15 points to make up for this loss. It's very feasible & a necessity for top 4 finish. Of cos after the next 5 games comes Tim's weekly test again - with Chelsea; Arsenal; Southampton & Liverpool to complete March. Those games will define our Summer status in 2014. COYS
DaSPURS
30/01/2014 10:02:00
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I agree with most of you in that Dawson was never the right call against City, but who else are we supposed to play? And I think to single out Bentaleb as out of his depth is simply wrong. I didn't even realise Siggi was playing until he went off. Dembele at times couldn't make a five yard pass. Eriksen was similar, his only saving grace being that he could actually take a corner kick. And Lennon was largely ineffective. If anything, Bentaleb was one of the better midfielders. Fans crave someone who is either a defensive midfielder or a number 10 - why? It isn't a prerequisite. It seems as though so many fans get caught up in being a Premier League Pundit that they believe everything they hear. There is such a thing as just a centre midfielder, in fact Bentaleb tracked back and got stuck in more than most, and keeps the play ticking over. Besides, people seem to forget he's very young and this is his first taste of top level football. He's hardly looked out of his depth, especially when you compare him to the aforementioned 'senior' players.
Stevenage Hotspur
30/01/2014 10:02:00
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Start with the positives: there was a bit of character shown. At 3-1, we saw some balls from our lads. After a slow start to the match, and some luck to still only be 1-0 down, we started to get our way into the game. Only a well spotted offside stopped us equalising. The negatives: DEMBELE... He can produce a good deep midfield display, but not consistently enough for me. Light in the tackle, passing woeful, chasing down of oppenents poor. Play him more advanced or not at all. Sherwood's selection - the talk of "no need for defensive midfielders" backfired big time. The insistence of previously not playing Capoue cost us big time. I have seen ManC play Yaya in a 100% holding role. Even they use holding midfielders. If Sherwood does not embrace the idea a bit more, then expect more beatings from ManC & Arsenal... When Rose got sent off, we went to 3 at the back!!!! We could not keep them out with 4, and now 3...??? The weakness of 3 at the back is when wingers run at you, which is basically how ManC were murdering us, so a goal was soon coming... Only when we conceded another did he bring Naugton on...which should have happened immediately after the sending off. He came on for Siggy, who was invisible anyway.... Why was he selected for this game...? He ISN'T a left midfielder. He only can do a job there vs weaker teams than us. Not vs City. We had Chadli... Now let's try and salvage some pride: Rose - actually did quite well amongst a poor 11...until unluckily sent off. Lloris - great save that kept us in the game...for a bit. Ade - actually put in a shift despite all being lost. Yes he held onto the ball too much... Lennon - seems to come to life when we go a man down. He tirelessly covers 2 roles.... If only we can get that energy from kickoff!!!! Anyway. I am happy. The life is coming back to our performance, and we were merely beaten by a team that is better on paper AND was better tactically AND had a fortunate decision. We are looking much better than those sleepy AVB days, and we have got more of our tough fixtures out of the way - so we know where we stand. It is in our hands. Verts, Paulinho, Sandro, Townsend to come back.
TonyRich
30/01/2014 10:03:00
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The "penalty" was very similar to Kos against Villa in the opening game, defender gets a slight touch but comes in from behind so it's easy to see how the penalty was given. I think it was a good tackle but in real time I would probably have given the penalty. I think that your goal was offside as Ade got a touch to the ball.
Galway Gooner
30/01/2014 10:04:00
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Totty very true, I thought we were most likely to lose so its how do you lose which counts if it must be and simply it cant be like this, we needed a shield in front of the defence for this one and then we had a chance of matching them in some way. I have never seen Siggy play well and he has to a degree become a pointless layer to have. Look West Ham played not to lose last night in what looked like a much tougher game for them (based on league positions and being away) than the one we faced, they got a draw. I think TS showed how naive he is, but I cant see why its a surprise to anyone on here that he's naive, nobody wanted him because he had never done it before, now idiots are slaughtering him for never having done it before. Still i would rather be him than some of the mongs on here mate.
tophobunty1882
30/01/2014 10:05:00
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I don't understand how Levy possibly expects us to get top4 this season. I honestly think the target this year should be top6 and Europa League, which is far more achievable and realistic. If we signed a left-back and a striker before deadline day then top4 may be reachable, but if you're not gonna put your hand in your pocket it is unfair to make demands that are never going to be acheievd. Mourinho has said Chelsea's target is top4, to build for next year. He has been backed with Willian, Etoo, Matic, and Salah. However saying that I will be excited when I see the fully fit team of Lloris, Walker, Verts, Chiriches new LB, Sandro, Paulinho, Lamela, Townsend, Eriksen and Adebayor, with new GK, Naughton, Kaboul, Capoue, Dembele, Lennon and Soldado on the bench.
Sebastian Short
30/01/2014 10:05:00
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Lots of good comments. I agree that we are not playing as a team and haven't done so for the last 2 seasons at least. We have loads of MF talent but no MF general and defensively we are open like a seive. The failure of Dawson and Walker to read the game quickly enough left us open loads of times last night and allowing a player to position themselves for a shot by showing them inside when there are no defenders there is just amateur night (Walker). City showed us the gap to the top, just as Liverpool and Arsenal did, but the interesting thing there is that individually Liverpool are not great with 2 exceptions and neither are Arsenal. The difference is that they are both playing to a consistent system which works most of the time. The root problem for me is Levy's mis-management of the club over the past 14 years and my fear for this season is that we will once again not qualify for top 4 which in turn will lead to an exodus of our better players and not attract better replacements, even assuming Levy is prepared to spend any money. Hopefully we can go on another run with our best players in the side and Liverpool and Arsenal start to stutter as every team usually does, but I'm not holding my breath. Incidentally, I thought that TS gave the no-442 brigade what they wanted last night in terms of 451 and it did indeed look like a typical AVB team ie: clueless.
Harry-Kari
30/01/2014 10:05:00
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Stevenage Hotspur top post.
"so many fans get caught up in being a Premier League Pundit that they believe everything they hear."
brilliant
logos8
30/01/2014 10:10:00
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TS got it wrong, big time. Wrong formation for a start, and then plays the wrong players to suit the wrong formation. I though Tim said he was setting up to attack. Attack what exactly???? Why is it that when other teams have players who are on their way back seem to get straight back into the team and get going. Townsend, Sandro, Vertonghen, Paulinho have all been training for more than a week FFS yet we start with phucking Siggurdson AGAIN!!!!!!! There was no plan, or at least not one was going to win the game. The players didn’t help themselves at all. You know what I can’t even be arsed talking about it. But super spurs are soooooo good and have sooooo many world class players we don’t need to bother strengthening this window. It’s just a phucking joke. Utterly sick of supporting this club.
hudderspur
30/01/2014 10:11:00
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The referee was going to give a corner and didn't think it was a foul until the linesman flagged. How can he send someone off for something he didn't even think was a foul. Just because a penalty was given doesn't mean Rose should be sent off. The offside was given because of Dawson, the linesman stated that it was given due to Dawson being offside when the ball was played.
Kong
30/01/2014 10:12:00
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shedboy2, your correct on the stadium issue! But after last nights humiliation, Loser levy is going to seriously struggle to find the 450 million he plans to get from naming rights, instead of borrowing the cash from the bank. I mean, who in the world is going to put such massive money down and then have to wait 3 years whilst the stadium is being built, to have the honor of having their name on the stadium of a none Champions League football club, owned by a British tax exile, football mercenary, that is run by a clueless apprentice of a football club chairman??? If your that wealthy, you do your research first, right? The THFC honors list since Lewis took over is not exactly high profile is it? Let's hope Lewis does the right thing and cashes in ASAP, before Loser Levy does anymore damage...
Pele10
30/01/2014 10:13:00
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Seb why wouldn't he? we were 5th last year (4th the season before) plus 100 million plus new players arrived. Isn't a one place rise a small ask in that context? The problem is we had a poor plan, poor manager and the way the 100 million was invested was juvenille at best. Harry they both have very good managers, we didn't have for 18 months and its hard to see how we can now.
tophobunty1882
30/01/2014 10:14:00
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Stevenage Hotspur- disagree on Bentaleb...he's out of position an awful lot...not deep enough to be a DM, does track and closes down but only up to the crucial last 3 yards effectively making him useless, his passing or ticking over is often sideways or back and he gives it away when we have no one protecting the middle...yes he's a box to box mid but we don't have players for that system at the moment he looks like Jermain Jenas...dembele isn't a box to box but a damn fine CM he is...but yes don't single him out...there were other poor performers most noticeably in the dug out..
shedboy2
30/01/2014 10:17:00
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@ SpuriousLife, I doubt if anyone is offended at hearing the bitter truth.... Completely agree with your views...
DaSPURS
30/01/2014 10:18:00
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Sebastian - And there is the problem, we have an excellent chairman when it comes to financial matters but no idea when it comes to selecting/supporting a manager to grow a team and be successful. I've often wondered what our on the field "plan" is at Tottenham, it's simple we don't have one.
MrSpurs
30/01/2014 10:18:00
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Always Pleased to help GG.
longtimespur
30/01/2014 10:19:00
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Really fed up with last nights game. Yes we were lucky to be only 1-0 down at half time but had the linesman done his job properly then at 1-1 and with 11 players on the pitch it could have been a different story. I really hope we appeal and make a fuss because the level of officiating in the premiership this season has been disgraceful. As for us, poor performance from pretty much the whole team and a poor management showing as well. But what do you expect when Tim seems have a total disregard for DM's. Lloris kept the scoreline down (my MOTM) and if I was him I would be so fed up of having to deal with the current defence in front of him. Walker again goes wandering and frequently relies on his pace to get himself out of trouble. Dawson is just not good enough, especially not against strikers of that quality. He just gets turned every time and ends up chasing shadows or hurling himself to the ground. I cannot wait for Vertonghen and Kaboul to come back, and hopefully between those two and Vlad we can have CB sorted. Vlad I thought was one of the better performers and with a leader next to him at CB then I think he will really start to shine. Rose was ok, he put in some better crosses this game, but also some poor ones. I personally thought Siggy didn't help him enough (I'll come to that). Lennon was really poor and did not get in the game, doesn't seem to have the attacking threat he once did. He needs to do more for us at this level. Dembele looked alright, if he worked on his passing (moving it quicker, and slightly more accurately) and his play in the final third, then he could truly become an absolute beast of a midfielder. He's a very good player, but I get the impression that if he worked on a couple of aspects of his game then he could be top class talent. Bentaleb IMO should not have started. There is a time and place to blood youngsters. Starting against Yaya Toure and Fernandinho in a big game is not one of them. He looked really off the pace and his passing was really sloppy. I like him and think he has a big future, but I would like to see him go on loan for the rest of this season. Get some really good game time and develop his game. Siggurdson was non existent. But I'm not surprised to be honest. He's not a left midfielder, yet both AVB and Sherwood have played him there, why can't they see it? Or am I missing something? He is ineffective there because he's out of position. In a central attacking role behind a striker is his position, and he would get goals and assists. Yet we don't play him there, and we also have Eriksen and Holtby who can both play that position. IMO it would be best for both parties if we sold Siggy, I like him and think he's a good player, I just don't think he's going to show that for us because he won't get significant game time in his natural position. Eriksen also seemed slightly off the pace, but to be honest, City's midfield was pretty rampant. Eriksens dead ball delivery was class though, and the more he plays for us in the prem then the better he will get. Ade worked hard and closed down well for the team, but our midfield never supported him, or kept the ball well enough for him to be of any serious threat... As for Tim Sherwood, I think he got it completely wrong, but then I expected as much if he thinks a defensive midfielder is not needed against one of the best attacking teams in the world. Once Capoue came on I thought he played well and justified starting the next match. I cannot see why Siggurdsen started on the left. And to be quite honest, against well run, good teams, Sherwood seems to be out of his depth. His supposed disregard for tactics is really worrying. At this level there has to be tactical discipline. Especially against teams like City. To me, last night it looked like there wasn't, and throughout the whole game they cut through us with ease.
rahn DMC
30/01/2014 10:20:00
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pele10 are you a spurs fan?
logos8
30/01/2014 10:21:00
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MrSpurs- you say an excellent chairman when it come to financial matters...so perhaps you can explain the 70m debt that we paid 6m interest on last year? or are you just regurgitating the PR line?
shedboy2
30/01/2014 10:26:00
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Galway I have an idea on how one of the spurs lads on here could help you out.
tophobunty1882
30/01/2014 10:26:00
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Until we get this ENIC mob out, there will always be Galway Gooner on here taking the tiss out of us... Can't blame him of course, we would be doing exactly the same, if they had Loser Levy and the scrooge running their club! They would be no Emirates stadium of course had Joe Lewis bought AFC, they would be still be at the tiny old Highbury stadium and Wenger would have been fired 8 seasons back by Loser Levy! You know I speak the TRUTH!!!
Pele10
30/01/2014 10:27:00
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Refs and officials need to learn how to do their jobs properly. Absolute shambles, they ruined the game completely. Great day out to see the lads play but came away thinking what a joke.. Don’t agree we were outplayed at all, but yes they are a good team. We should have gone in at half time at 1-1 it’s as simple as that and were dominating at the end of the first. The second half would have been different but its hindsight now but no we didn’t not deserve that final score imo. The setup formation wise was ok but I would have tweaked the starting line-up myself. No Rose will not get the card overturned, why bother wasting time? Yes time to knuckle down and get prepared Saturday’s away game. Will the same mistakes be made by the officials in that game>? To be honest, it wouldn’t ******** surprise me. COYS.
SpursOne2
30/01/2014 10:27:00
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Kong - you can see from the replay that Dawson wasn't offside. But Ade was, and he headed it, so either way it was offside... The worrying thing is that it was a set-piece. Surely part of practicing set-pieces is staying on side before the ball is struck...
TonyRich
30/01/2014 10:29:00
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When you see that Gylfi and Eriksen are not working and we need a goal why didn't he take Gylfi off and put Soldado on with Eriksen coming in off the left....Lennon despite having a poor game still holds the width on the right....
shedboy2
30/01/2014 10:30:00
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Now for Timmy Boy. yes we beat and drew with the teams below us in the league, great games to test systems and try out a few youngsters as he did. However when we played Arse and City, he set us up completely wrong with some wrong players on the pitch. It wasnt a day for Bentaleb, Capiue should have started there, and Chadli ahead of soggy for sure. Dawson shouldnt have played, but if the big boys were still not ready limited choices there, and Rose. I cant take watching him as LB any more. Tim needs to get some proper advice, maybe from Hoddle, til the end of the season, a mentor if you like, as he doesnt understand the formations or setups required to beat the teams above us. We can beat them, for sure, but not the way we set up v Arse or city. There. off the chest.
Dublin Hotspur
30/01/2014 10:31:00
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shutup pele10, the sad gooners on here have naff all to do with our owners and will bore the crap out of us on here regardless...god you need to listen to your self. COYS.
SpursOne2
30/01/2014 10:32:00
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Just one extra thing about last night. I thought the linesmen were supposed to run the line on the same side of the pitch for each half. ie they call decisions against both teams. Unless my memory is really bad (age lol) wasn't it the SAME linesman responsible for both those bad calls. He flagged Dawson offside (wrongly according to BT Sport commentary, and they asked him at half-time) and then called Rose's tackle illegal, which again was contradicted by BT Sport! In which case they didn't. I didn't record it so I can't check that out. Not that it would make a difference if I was correct.
longtimespur
30/01/2014 10:33:00
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Pele- some of the apologists remind me of the optimist that fell off a high story building- every window he fell past people heard him saying 'so far, so good'.....;)
shedboy2
30/01/2014 10:33:00
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Our midfield could not deal with the movement of Manachester city . Bentaleb did ok, how else does a young player learn. He rarely lost the ball and his anticipation and positioning was good. But Dembele walked about then responded as the play passed him by. Not good enough against top teams, just an upgrade on Jenas. Capoue was a improvement so do not know why he was side lined by both Managers, must be a character reason. Danny Rose shows a lot of potential and improvement few wingers get the better of him, Missing all three of our top buys and Townsend so onwards and upwards from here!.
camper
30/01/2014 10:34:00
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Oh and Timmy boy, dont ever go kissing up another team like that in front of the cameras again. you made yourself and us look like adoring, in awe groupies!
Dublin Hotspur
30/01/2014 10:35:00
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SpursOne2, I wish the gooners had our owners!
Pele10
30/01/2014 10:35:00
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shedboy2, ;)
Pele10
30/01/2014 10:37:00
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dublin - if Levy swallowed his pride he could still call Hoddle and he'd come...but it wouldn't be to work with Tim it would be to replace him. Won't happen though...
shedboy2
30/01/2014 10:37:00
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TonyRich, if we are going by the official reason for the disallowed goal then it should have been given based on that but you are right Ade was offside. I am not that angry on the offside goal as those kind of decisions happen. The other decision changed the game completely.
Kong
30/01/2014 10:37:00
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Sherwood's interview after seemed like he accepted the defeat even before it happened. No anger shown or anything.
Kong
30/01/2014 10:39:00
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Cheers Logos. Just tired of hearing the same old recycled criticisms or praises on players based purely on either emotion or the fact that several other people have repeated something that a random pundit has stated. In the end you can look at the stats and see who simply isn't up to scratch. For example, people state Bentaleb's pass completion is because he makes 10 yard passes. However this isn't true, and his average pass length is 18m, which is higher than average for our midfield. People could learn a lot from actually watching a player, and not only noticing the mistakes he makes because of a preconceived notion in their mind before the player has even touched the ball.
Stevenage Hotspur
30/01/2014 10:39:00
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Pele10 - whilst I am happy with our owners, I do not expect everyone else to be. But what I do not understand is your desire to want all of them to change. Why "ENIC out" and not just "Levy out"? They can appoint another Chairman you know. Even if you want them "out", they will not be 100% out, they will still own a large proportion of the club. For example Alan Sugar continuing to have money in Spurs past his chairmanship. What you are wanting (in almost every post) is unrealistic and completely ignoring the fact that the new owners could be actually worse. At least ENIC has us financially sound, building a stadium, getting our record points total last year, got us finishing 4th twice, got us into the champions league and up to the quarter finals, got us a trophy, broke our transfer record paid a few times, broke our transfer record recouped a few times, got us a better squad, better players, and so on... It hasn't always been smooth and mistakes have been made, and everyone in positions of power will make mistakes. Not saying they are perfect, but we got our record points last season! We are currently matching it right now. You cannot complain about everything if we do that.
TonyRich
30/01/2014 10:40:00
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logo 8. We can do it. We just won't.
jonathan01
30/01/2014 10:42:00
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*Siggy, not Soggy* thats unfair on the lad.
Dublin Hotspur
30/01/2014 10:43:00
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