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All In The Mind

One thing I found interesting after the City game was Sherwood's post match interview. I've been impressed by the amount of common sense Tim has come out with when speaking to the press, the post City interview had an element of psychology about it. Unlike most managers he didn't make excuses.

Far from spending his time complaining about the unjustified sending off, as he could have legitimately done, he said it didn't affect the result. While I think that's going a bit far, I am fairly certain it at least affected the scoreline, there might be a touch of Ferguson in there. Michael Carrick once explained in an interview that at United you went out expecting to win every game. Every time you failed to do that, regardless of circumstances, you had failed. I wonder if Tim is trying to instil a similar attitude in the Spurs squad.

Changing the player's mindset is not something you could do in a few weeks but if Sherwood could pull it of it could make a big difference. I've always argued that in the 30 odd years I've been going to White Hart Lane a lack of mental strength has always been our achilles heel, Ardiles once said that his team could beat anyone on their day but also lose to anyone on another day, so I'll watch the rest of the season with interest.

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Writer:jod
Date:Monday February 3 2014
Time: 9:17AM

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I just think Tim is a stop gap until the summer, irrespective of what he achieves. Maybe he's trying to instil a certain mentality but that will be all change once a new Manager comes in as he'll have his own ideas, methods etc...
I agree that our mentaility is somewhat weak in recent years although that is something AVB changed albeit from "negative" formation and tactics. This is Mourinho's way too, not pretty football but success, to have both you need to have a change from the youth setup all the way through to the first team and then you need to stick to it. If you want instant success then you need a sugar daddy. We not only contstantly change managers, we also change style, formations, type of players etc....It's no surprise we have no consistency really, is it?
yiddyboy
03/02/2014 09:29:00
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Couldn't agree more about the mental strength. We have a team of very professional players, but we don't have a 'win at any cost' kinda player, someone who'll play real dirty if it'll rile up the opposition, or who'll have a real shout at his team mates if he thinks they're playing garbage, or even just someone who'll really push their workrate up when things aren't going our way and show everyone else up. You only need one or 2 in a team but they're a necessity for a team to consistently win.
flipper
03/02/2014 09:34:00
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Whilst I agree that we were slowly getting back into the game at the time of Rose's sending off, you would have to be pretty blinkered to deny that we were lucky to only be 1-0 down at that point. To moan about the decision would be a negative thing. Sherwood to me is just being himself, and cutting the krap. No fooling about. We have seen numerous managers moan about decisions, and end up believing that it is decisions that are causing bad results. Steve Clarke was the latest culprit this season. But then when you look at his performance across the whole of last year, there was no way that bad refereeing could have accounted for all of that. It is good to stay focused on your performance. Sometimes you have off days, and sometimes you will get outclassed despite a decent performance. On the day, a combo of tactics, injuries in key positions and being outclassed lost that game. The sending off only really affected the margin of victory. Yes mental strength continues to be a problem for us. To me, the only players that possess the right mental strength in our squad are Dawson, Sandro, Vertongen. We are deficient in that area, and I think that in the next window, we need to sign a couple more. They don't all need to be mentally strong...in fact having too many will have a negative effect, but we need a few more. Especially in attacking areas.
TonyRich
03/02/2014 09:35:00
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Tim showed why he is an U21 coach in that interview. It's ok to compliment the opposition but Tim took his pants down and took a bigger carrot then our players! He should have given the team some criticism, he should have pointed out what our mistakes were if anything. To top it off he was pleased with our performance on Saturday? We are so unorganized its frighting! Im hearing the murmurings about Laudrup and if it's true I would put Tim back where he belongs with his U21's and he can enjoy watching other teams batter them rather the our first team.
Mix26
03/02/2014 09:37:00
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Good piece. Mentality is vital. Got to say I supported his appointment from the start and still do. Not wishwashy and weak. I cannot believe how our fans show their fickleness week in week out. The articles and comments I yesterday were utterly disgusting from "fans" calling him an imbecile!!?? Time we start making the players a bit more responsible for dominating games and not winning them - Tim cannot put the ball in the net himself. When we finish 3rd/4th everyone will be singing his praises.
ScottyTooHotspur
03/02/2014 09:38:00
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Good points in the article and the posts so far. We have lacked a winning mentality for the past 50 years. Sometimes we've not been good enough, sometimes we're too nice and other times we want to play the 'Spurs way' at the expense of results. The one constant all the way through is our willingness to accept defeat instead of an unbreakable desire to win at all costs. It is the 10% that lives in the head which is the difference between greatness and mediocrity. Just look at Utd under Moyes to the one under Ferguson. The difference is in the mentality instilled in the side. IF we get LVG in the summer then we will have a coach with a REAL winning mentality. Expect fireworks, tantrums and flying teacups but also expect to see our attitude improve.
SpuriousLife
03/02/2014 09:44:00
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in reply to Mix26 - Laudrup? are you serious? he had a lucky season last year and has shown he struggles to break a trend when his team are under performing. I'm sick & tired of changing managers, We will never amount anything until someone is given time to build their own team. If you want someone that will get this group of players playing better than they are, then get 'Arry back (I do not want that btw). We're a top 7 side, that is all, we're nowhere near as good as the current top 3, and are about on par with the 2 merseyside clubs & united. Sorry for the negativity, I'm just incredibly disillusioned with us right now.
King26
03/02/2014 09:54:00
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It's not negative King26 it's reality. We are only as good as Liverpool is Suarez leaves, he to them is what Bale was to us only they kept their main man and we didn't. What I don't see enough from Spurs is urgency, all this keep ball in your own half stuff is great is you have a secret weapon that will bag you 30+ goals a season, we don't have that player anymore. We far too often either wake up once we go behind or if we take the lead we sit back and try to defend that lead. Look at City, when they score they put the knife in and before you know it its 3,4,5 or 6. They do that to every team they play.
yiddyboy
03/02/2014 09:59:00
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You can try installing your team with a winning mentality all you like, but if your central defender and captain is a lower level of football player than the majority of the team, along with other weak links in the squad such a Siggi you just ain't going to win the Premiership title or compete in the CL on a regular basis. FACT! It is also IMPOSSIBLE to install a winning mentality into you players when the chairman of the club who makes all the big decisions, constantly interferes and undermines his coaches by buying and selling players without their permission or approval, something we have witnessed now for 14 seasons with Levy, with his 9 coaches, 3 DOF'S and his new soon to be fired technical director and YES MAN head coach! Hence Levy acquiring himself with the worst trophy per season percentage of an THFC owner in over half a century. FACT! Success starts at the top and if you have a an owner who has little or no interest in the football club, who is not prepared to invest in the squad on a sufficient level to seriously compete, despite having the personal level wealth of one of those Sugar Daddy owners, (a term invented by excuse making ENIC Hotspur fans) you just ain't going to be successful! LOSER LEVY and the FOOTBALL MERCENARY OUT!!!
Pele10
03/02/2014 10:01:00
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It's certainly true that there is a lack of intensity and drive from most of our players. They show little urgency when time is running out and we could still win the game. They seem to dawdle rather than move with purpose, and it's reflected in their lack of movement (or lack of) off the ball during open play. If we don't speed our game up the opposition defenders will have an easy job in containing us. Lack of enthusiasm or confidence?!
Geofspurs
03/02/2014 10:04:00
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SpuriousLife - I wanted LVG before, but he could possibly be completely the other way. Perhaps to tough a manager for some of our players to handle. It could work or backfire in equal amounts.... Mix26 - Laudrup would have been a better choice than AVB. At least Laudrup is proving himself with unfancied clubs such as Getafe, Mallorca and Swansea - whereas AVB gets Porto, Spurs & Chelsea. Not saying that we should go for him now or even change manager btw... Why are you so disillusioned? The Citeh defeat? Sherwood? Changing and managers? Not signing anyone in Jan? If you look at it the other way, we are still on course to be 2 points ahead of last seasons' record points total, and since Sherwood took over, our record has been 5 wins, 2 draws and a single defeat to probably the future champions. We have been doing this without Sandro, Vertonghen, Townsend & Paulinho.
TonyRich
03/02/2014 10:07:00
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Pele10 - you are sounding like Rafa Benitez.... FACT. You say that, but then Alex Ferguson managed to make champions out of creaking Rio & Vidic, Giggs & Scholes. Plus Evans, Cleverley, Smalling, Anderson, Nani... These players are (or are no longer) no better than what we have. Instilling a winning mentality is key to squeeze the extra performance out of the team.
TonyRich
03/02/2014 10:12:00
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Cheers yiddyboy! I was beginning to think I may just have become a grumpy old man! You're right, City, whilst possessing the best squad, are absolutely ruthless, I don't think I remember us being that way ever!
King26
03/02/2014 10:16:00
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Being a confidence sport mentality is vital. Any manager will try to install the right mentality. Sherwood has a better chance of knowing what's required, given he captained a team to the title, than AVB, for example. I agree with Geof that we're recently not showing much intensity. Are the players not responding to Sherwood? In fairness to Tim we haven't looked very good for the best part of 2yrs. May take longer than we realise to sort out? Has Laudrup been that good at Swansea? Good for 6 months then had a poor 2nd half of season, nothing too special this season. Martinez and Rodgers were noticeably better. Would Van Gaal come if we're 5th or worse? Should Tim be replaced if we're 4th or better?
jerkinmahjurgen
03/02/2014 10:24:00
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Morning Pele.
tophobunty1882
03/02/2014 10:25:00
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Pele10 - We don't have a sugar daddy owner because he doesn't use his wealth within the football club. You can't compare Leiws and Abramovich. I totally agree with you on Dawson, and if I was a player at Spurs and Dawson started giving me instructions I wouldn't have the respect as my first thought would be "you telling me how to play football, pot and kettle" Dawson, Siggy, Defoe, Rose are all squad players at best. When most of those are regular starters I'm not expecting anything special.

I firmly believe ENIC have taken Spurs from a struggling mid table team into European regulars (albeit in the wrong European competition). However, I think they have also taken us as far as they can as the next step (which I believe we all want, Champions League regualers?) comes at a cost which they (ENIC) are not prepared to invest in. I'm not putting ENIC down as you are, I just think they need to come out and be clear to all what their ambitions are as I see a huge difference between ENIC and the fans.

I was talking yesterday to a season ticket holder who went to all the CL games, they said they spent over £2500 that season on CL travel and matches, they are also somewhat disappointed that their investment in the team (relatively speaking) is not matched by the owners. I'm constantly being ridiculed by mates as Spurs spent £100m+ in the summer but they all fail to understand we didn't actually spend anything!
If you sell a Rolls Royce for £100k and buy 10 Ford fiesta's do you expect to travel around in the same luxury???

Wake up time for the fans, DO NOT turn on Tim is results go bad, push all your anger and frustration to Mr Levy. Rant over!!
yiddyboy
03/02/2014 10:26:00
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I agree about the mentality, winning at all costs should be a given. Could it not be argued that because of our constant changing of managers that this maybe has a bearing on the mentatlity issue. Yes, we had Harry for a while, but we had the Bale factor then. I'd suggest the squad as a whole is now stronger. AVB, season and a half, Sherwood, maybe relieved of his duties come seasons end. How can the players buy into a managers philosophy, when ideas are forever changing?. We need stability, we need no knee jerk reactions when things get tough. A unity needs to be established.

Ferguson was one Mark Robins goal away from the sack, didn't pan out too bad in the end did it. Dawson, yes great leader, but really, as a footballer he has limitations. Is he taken seriously?. Is a 19 year old going to start shouting at Soldado?. If we want a team to display a never say die attitude, for me, this has to be instilled from the top. We as fans want this, do the board want it enough?. Daniel is very good at business, electing managers and keeping them for long periods he is not. We have become somewhat of a joke with the way we go about our affairs at times. How can we honestly expect a player to sweat blood, when half the time we are busy making ourselves look like amateurs. We want a winning mentality, here's a clue, get a b/oody strong coach/manager in who takes no prisoners, rules with authority, knows the game inside out, is used to winning himself and is capable of getting into the minds of his players.

Once this is done, have the nerve to back him through not only good times, but bad also. Sacking at the first sign of trouble is more detrimental to the club than having to ride out the storm. It's a well known fact that overcoming difficulties makes you stronger.Use this as a tool as opposed to starting the cycle all over. Sherwood was appointed because there was little else out there. Will he be given time?, i doubt it. So the cycle continues.
Cider spurs
03/02/2014 10:30:00
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Scottytoohotspur – Enough with the whole Fickle bull$hi7 please. We needed a solid performance against hull and we got a half-hearted pathetic showing. It’s certainly not all Tim Sherwoods fault but unfortunately the managers shoulders most of it anyway. That’s just the game. His arrogance at not bringing in a goal scorer will cost him, he even went on to say Levy offered him money but he said no. That’s just plain stupid. U say most fans are fickle, well I say fans like you just have no concept of the real world. “when we finish 3rd of 4t”………..WHAT PHUCKING PLANET ARE YOU ON!!!
hudderspur
03/02/2014 10:32:00
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Agree with your first post King26. Sums up the way I feel. As I watched the game I just didn't see the quality of the players, potential yes but the quality isn't top 4 yet.
jvd
03/02/2014 10:33:00
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Tim has already stated it's all about winning games. Win - everyone's happy, lose - everyone's moody. That tells me what HE'S gonna be like, lol. Mentality adjusts along the way, for better or worse.There were other players at United who claimed Fergie was ok sometimes when they lost and fuming sometimes even when they won. It's obviously not a given to win every game and we're also not at Utds' level, hence maybe, Tim seemingly happy with a point at Hull after that 'performance'. I like him and want him to succeed but I've got my eye on whether the players are taking to him.
jerkinmahjurgen
03/02/2014 10:35:00
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we should have got shane long for a minimal fee
ghulamville
03/02/2014 10:38:00
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TonyRich...I'm confused as to why LVG maybe too tough for some of our players to handle. Having won cups and leagues by being a disciplinarian is maybe exactly what we need. He has shown it works, and if that upsets a few players, do we need them?. How can having a win at all costs manager be a negative?, if a player wants it enough, he'll love it, if he doesn't love it, he doesn't want it enough. Needed?. NO!.
Cider spurs
03/02/2014 10:42:00
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Yiddy, who would you listen to in the spurs team. I very much doubt dawson is giving techincal advice to the likes of paulinho or Soldado or pointing out to Rose when a step over might work better then a back heel flick. I would hope his instructions on the pitch are something along the lines of "Danny what the Fork are you doing, just kick the forking ball into Row Z if you have to. You're no Forking Messi just give the ball to someone else on your Forking team"! Or prehaps a quiet word to Soldado gently encouraging him with words like "Put the forking ball in the forking net, we're busting our Bollox out here to get you the ball you, powder puff premadonna, so do something useful with it or I'll just change tactics and start busting your Bollox!
Slurms McKenzie
03/02/2014 10:46:00
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If we had a really tough task master, forever pulling performances apart, yes at times that can be hard for a player to swallow at times. But the praise for doing the things right on the pitch can be so much more satisfying when you know the manager has such high expectations. That's where we need to be, a truly tough regimented leader, forever picking weaknesses in performances, surrounded by players who are strong enough to not take things personally, but reach the level of expectation on a regular basis.
Cider spurs
03/02/2014 10:46:00
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TonyRich, Whilst is is true that not every player in Fergies teams were of world class level, or even on the rare occasion not even of international level, he always purchased players who could compete in the Premiership against top clubs as well as in Europe. Fergie never attempted to sign lower level players such as JJ, Siggi, dawson etc etc! We all know this is true! Of course occasionally he made mistakes, as all coaches do and moved players on quickly, when he realised they would not make the grade. (JJ was kept by levy for 7 seasons, who personally gave him 2 contract extensions!) But the biggest difference between Fergie and all the coaches Loser Levy has appointed is that he was given the freedom, the control and most importantly the time to create a winning mentality! I think it was two or three seasons before he started to create a wining formula at Old Trafford, was given the backing and the TOTAL support of the MUFC board and was allowed to run the show with out constant inference from upstairs! Had Fegie arrived at Tottenham on Levy's arrival and had failed to deliver instantly with Loser Levy interfering and undermining him, he would have been sacked within a season and half! We all know this is true! 9 coaches in 14 seasons, confirms exactly what I am saying! Fergie would have walked anyway within weeks of arriving at Spurs (just like Santini) as soon as he realised that Loser Levy was interfering. We all know this 100% true! You are totally correct when you say "Instilling a winning mentality is key to squeeze the extra performance out of the team"! But this is impossible when you have a interfering, control freak of a chairman like Loser Levy hovering above interfering and undermining you! This is the truth! ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
03/02/2014 10:48:00
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The interesting thing is that whilst I agree with the sentiment of the article, I have noticed that some of the fans, including myself, felt that some of our players on Saturday were putting in less than 100% effort. Surely, that is a subset of a winning mentality. Watching the Arsenal game yesterday, it was clear no Palace player were going to get any time on the ball and it was a monumental team effort to grab a 2-0 victory against a stubborn side sitting behind the ball. Could we honestly say the same about our result against a similar side. I do also agree with Pele in that when the guy wearing the armband does not get the respect of his team-mates based on ability alone then it's time to make a change. Utd had a winning mentality because they had winning and talented captains. It starts there.
muttley
03/02/2014 10:50:00
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pele..I wouldn't have put your last post quite like that myself. But on this one, i have to agree. How can a winning mentality be instilled when managers are constanly changing. Time and left to all things football on the pitch, players required, etc. That's what a manager needs at Spurs.
Cider spurs
03/02/2014 10:53:00
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*constantly*
Cider spurs
03/02/2014 10:54:00
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King26, If lucky results in a League cup in his first season then sign me up? But if you prefer having Tim bending over to our rivals and our players looking like are enjoying casual "free flowing" disjointed unprofessional unorganized headless chickens football then be my guest, the truth is Tim is lucky to have Ade and Erikson playing well. Thats the only thing I see...
Mix26
03/02/2014 10:55:00
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Slurms McKenzie - Its about respect, would you respect a captain who is at fault for the majority of our goals conseeded?
Many on here say AVB was clueless, but he noticed the flaws in Dawson's game from day 1 and should have shipped him out to QPR for £8m as that would have been daylight robbery!!
yiddyboy
03/02/2014 11:04:00
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Bentaleb looks a bit out of his depth now, of course against city's midfield he would be but I felt he gave away possession and was positionally inept against Hull too. He is a great prospect but 100% LVG or any other manager would not be playing him over Capoue. It's a bit naive in my opinion to play the kid game after game when he is still learning his trade. Capoue is a rock and would really shore our midfield up -alllowing Paulihno to push forward more! For me personally if Bentaleb keeps playing we wont get top four.
chavli
03/02/2014 11:06:00
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Mix ... without Ade we'd be three places lower and if AVB had played Ade earlier we'd be two places higher, imo.
Geofspurs
03/02/2014 11:07:00
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yiddyboy, totally agree with you! This is as good as it is going to get with ENIC, which is fine if your happy to be a Europa League level team, who's total ambition is to come 4th in the Premiership! If this is your height of ambition (whilst the THFC trophy cabinet stays empty) then ENIC are the mob for you! All though I suspect that if Levy is allowed to continue to ruin the THFC show then we will not even be in the Europa League soon. I want that new stadium, I want to see my team compete in the CL as the Arsenal fans enjoy every season, and I want to see my team WIN silverware as the Chelsea fans enjoy every season! Sadly ENIC have failed us on the stadium front, the Champions League and most importantly on Silverware! Levy unlike his coaches has been given the time to bring us success, but has failed us miserably! You all know what coming next... ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
03/02/2014 11:08:00
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/5418130/Sol-dud-o.html
ghulamville
03/02/2014 11:14:00
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According to reports over here in Holland, Feyernoord are parting company with Koeman at the end of the season and one Louis van Gaal is on their short list.

http://www.sport1.nl/nieuws/66181-feyenoord-belt-bosz-van-gaal-en-adriaanse.html
yiddyboy
03/02/2014 11:19:00
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yiddyboy - Van Gaal wants to manage in the Premiership. He has already come out and said its the one thing he wants to do before he retires. Personally I think he will be the next Tottenham manager and I hope so because he has a proven track record. But Van Gaal is a big personality, not sure how he would get along with Levy.
MrSpurs
03/02/2014 11:25:00
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MrSpurs - Van Gaal is an arrogant man but in his defence he has the trophies and success to back the arrogance up. It will be interesting to see how he act if he is appointed and then Levy starts buying/selling without input from Van Gaal himself.
yiddyboy
03/02/2014 11:31:00
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The main plus point fromt he weekend is that the race for the fourth spot is distilling down to four teams, Liverpool, Everton, Spurs and United. Of that four, Everton have the best team spirit, Spurs have the biggest squad, Liverpool have the points adavantage and are playing the best style of football and united are in decline. At his moment Liverpool are in the driving seat, Spurs are still waiting on the all clear from the fitness gurus for our best eleven and then must utilise them correctly. Everton have a very weak squad and United are in decline
Slurms McKenzie
03/02/2014 11:31:00
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Whay 'yiddyboy' said in the first post!!
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 11:38:00
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Okay I'll burst the bubble, Tim sherwood is our manager, van Gaal will never be our manager.
Slurms McKenzie
03/02/2014 11:44:00
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Slurms - we all know the script. TS will do OK this season, get a new bumper 4 year deal and then won't make it past 2 of those years. We'll end up paying him compensation and start the process again :-)
muttley
03/02/2014 11:47:00
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The next game will tell us lot in terms of how the season could end up. Everton are one of our main rivals, which will tell us something, and we play them at home which will tell us even more. Win and we look really good, lose and we hand momentum and encouragement to Everton. Depending on other results a draw would keep us in it. Bring it on! COYS
Geofspurs
03/02/2014 11:49:00
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Is TIM'S honeymoon period over already? That was quick.. lol..
Birdz
03/02/2014 11:53:00
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Mental strength? Van Gaal is exactly the sort of manager we need, one who concentrates on the system rather than the individual talent. That is something the club will need for success because we can't compete financially with the finances of the Manchesters, Chelsea etc. His mental strength is unwavering, he literally OWNS every club he manages, very much like Alcy Ferguson did at United. it's exactly that which makes me think he'd FINALLY be the manager to put Levy in his place, and is precisely the manager that Mr Levy NEEDS, to get the best out of our club. Up until now, Mr Levy hasn't had a single guy he can 'count on' to truly take charge of ALL the footballing matters. Up until now, Mr Levy hasn't had a single guy with the kahunas to stand up to him 7 tell him "It's done MY WAY, or it's not done at all".

I honestly believe that Van Gaal is that man. Also, if the press were to do as expected, and instantly have an agenda against him like they did with AVB because he came in & replaced the 'English sweetheart' manager, Van Gaal would not give a flying feck about them, or what they have to say. Like Ferguson used to do, he'd put them in their place, or he'd downright refuse to speak to them. THAT is what we need, a manager with balls, the ability to actually take control of things, grab them by the balls & make things happen. Will we get it?
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 11:54:00
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Mix - Good post (the first one, don't know if you've made any others yet). Though I'm personally not too sure about Laudrup. Just my opinion though :-)
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 11:55:00
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I think it's Nicholson's fault. It all went pear-shaped when the double team broke up!
Geofspurs
03/02/2014 11:56:00
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Ah, I see SpuriousLife has it all under control :-)
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 11:57:00
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Geof how sad yet true. I honestly would love to hear why Ade never featured under AVB this season. I'm sick of Tim and I honestly think he does not have the caliber to coach these international players. If he is after wins then that's all good but I feel the negativity in the team could be worse come the end of the season. DL is slowly drifting into the red and the coming weeks will very intriguing....
Mix26
03/02/2014 12:05:00
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I wrote an article yesterday that hasn't been put up yet. Just my take on the shenanigans between Levy and the managers. Well the last one, current one and future one (come summer). I may well be wrong but I think van Gaal is already in position and Tim knows it.
longtimespur
03/02/2014 12:05:00
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longtime - I hope you're right, just as I hope your article is aired for us to comment upon :-)
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 12:08:00
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did Tim get an eight month or eighteen month contract?
Slurms McKenzie
03/02/2014 12:12:00
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I've also submitted an article but I'm not gonna tell you what it's about :-)
muttley
03/02/2014 12:13:00
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Man U have signed a player they need, though, Slurms. They may well finish strongly. Chelsea may gets dragged into the race for 4th. If City beat them tonight, they'll be in no-mans land for a while. Liverpool will probably carry on as they are unless Suarez gets injured or banned. Hopefully Everton will lose their next match.
jerkinmahjurgen
03/02/2014 12:13:00
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If we do appoint Van Gaal it will be interesting to see what happens to the likes of Lamela and Soldado. That's £56M worth of players which Van Gaal will probably want to move on.
MrSpurs
03/02/2014 12:14:00
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MrSpurs - why would he want to move Lamela on? We have one of the young talents of world football who is versatile enough to play in different systems. My guess is that he'd get the best out of him. As for Soldado, who knows. I did feel bad for the guy several weeks ago but I saw a lack of effort and him playing the victim card on Saturday. I'm not into that and he needs to get going or go.
muttley
03/02/2014 12:24:00
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I actually preferred your version Coopsie!
SpuriousLife
03/02/2014 12:24:00
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MrSpurs you think he would get rid of Lamela if he manages Spurs or is this something you would favour? Lamela is one player I'd like to see given a run out in his favoured position. Soldado is one player who might be pushed on but again he played in a team that failed to create chances under AVB. Let's see how they both cope from now to the end of the season. I'm hoping both will play a major part gaining 4th place. COYS!
James1
03/02/2014 12:25:00
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This season has the feel of when Hoddle was sacked (4 points form 6 games, in the relegation zone, and purchased Zamora, Postiga & Kanoute) and Pleat took over for the season...you get the feeling that he was just the guy to keep the ship afloat until the real shake-up can happen in the summer.



There will probably be a massive turn-over of playing staff again, as we lose one or two to larger clubs poaching (Vertonghen I think is the most at risk of this), then lose quite a few who the new man doesn't rate, then obviously we will have the signings the new man wants mixed in with a few "Levy specials" of players coming to the end of their contracts or younger players with big reputations he thinks he can make a profit on.

The good thing about Van Gaal though is he doesn't favour rigid tactics and has gone on record as saying he always adapts his formations to the players at his disposal. We need someone like that to come in and make a cake out of the ingredients left by Levy & Baldini.

AVB's looked promising but didn't rise when put in the oven. Sherwood is like your 8 year old let loose in a bakery class, there's a lot of enthusiasm and he's attacking the job vigorously, but there's mess everywhere and its hard to tell whether the finished product will be great, or a disaster.

That said, if we can't get Van Gaal, i'd quite like Levy to take a punt on Prandelli.

The guy oozes class and is a proven tactician who plays great football. He has revitalised the italian national team and is respected by players and adored by the public.

I feel we as fans need a little 'hearts and minds' exercise imparted on us. The last 12 months have been difficult and I think (hope) Levy is aware of that. Prandelli is the perfect man to make that happen as not only will we love his personality and style, he would make us challenge, in my opinion.
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 12:25:00
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coopsie Laudrup strikes me as real winner and above all he has pedigree from his playing days at big clubs. I think English managers struggle as the PL has so many foreign players whom they don't trust etc. I've traveled extensively and I dislike the French, not because of any particular reason, I just find them rude and arrogant. Suffice to say that Managers like Mourinho,Pellegrini, Wenger etc have no bias to nationality. We have heard Tim speak of an English contingent of players and seemingly fav his youth, rather than test, motivate "manage" talents like Capoue, Holtby etc. Tim I think has chopped ,changed and fiddled needlessly since day 1 of the formation, tactics and players and it's now very evident we have a mixture of counter attack with no holding MF/ using wing backs with amf ahead of them and a hope Ade plays well. It was very evident against Sunderland what our best formation is yet Tim chose to change it twice in a row??? I can respect him trying to assess the opposition and attempt at stifling them but geez should we really be doing that to hull or should we be focused on our own attacking tactics.
Mix26
03/02/2014 12:27:00
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Also, for those who are transfixed by net spend, Why are you ignoring the £50-odd million we've spent on 'signing on fees' under ENIC, let alone the stinking agents fees? It's all relative, no?
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 12:29:00
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Lol coopsie if only AVB had used more Chocolate in his icing... top post
Mix26
03/02/2014 12:31:00
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Slurms - IF (and I know it's a pinch of salt that's required) ITK was correct, Sherwood hasn't been given an 18 month contract, he had 18 months remaining on his current contract with the youth set-up, and was simply promoted & given a payrise for the duration of that contract.
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 12:31:00
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lolol @ Sherwood analysis.
jerkinmahjurgen
03/02/2014 12:31:00
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Mix - Thanks mate, I appreciate that response. i wasn't 'dissing' you for suggesting Laudrup, far from it mate. i was just saying that I personally aren't too sure about him. Got to agree with you about the French though lol.
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 12:35:00
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LVG's target will be to achieve CL football as quickly as possible, not to develop young players.
MrSpurs
03/02/2014 12:35:00
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I should perhaps point out that I wasn't slagging Sherwood off in my post about him & AVB, it was just the best way I could come up with to describe them both.
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 12:37:00
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Lol for sure coopsie. Fair to say I believe he should be a candidate for the position. One thing is certain Tim will not be a candidate imo. Even if he flooks 4th spot
Mix26
03/02/2014 12:44:00
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I have been a strong supporter of Sherwood on this site, and I still want him to succeed because I am tired of changing manager and I think a British manager will show us more loyalty for longer. However he may have made the same fatal error as Redknapp and AVB in thinking the present strikeforce is going to do it for him. What is it with Tottenham and strikers ? Boney and Benteke were picked out by teams lower down the food chain than us. What has Ferdinand done as forwards coach ? If Van Gaal comes in will he think the srikers on the premises are all he needs?
cynicspur
03/02/2014 12:45:00
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SAF, British. Cantona, French. I'll say no more. ;-).... We just beat the Swans 1-3 and they are 20 points below us. Laudrup is not the answer.
MAN ON!
03/02/2014 12:47:00
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Hudderspur - The fickle fan thing is true for every sports team in the world. Stereotypes are there for a reason and that's one of them. The striker argument is old too. Ade on fire atm but gets no help from midfield (again - ask Soldado). Hows this concept of the real world - Arsenal fans tell their manager he doesn't know what he's doing all of last season and beginning of this. They currently look class (that hurts to say) and will beat us come season end. Rodgers - Fans again said he's useless. Forget Suarez, look at the rest of the team. Playing flowing football courtesy of a manager being given time to instill his style. Examples go on and on. AVB was treated harshly. I'd love to see you take on a project in your field of work when it's halfway through and get it right immediately. Chances are you'll need some time too. And 3rd/4th - where were we in comparison to arse this time last year? 13 points ahead. Remind me what happened? 4 points is no mountain happy bear... Eejit
ScottyTooHotspur
03/02/2014 12:50:00
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coops - I'm actually wondering whether we over-rate Vertonghen. I've seen a few chinks in his defensive play that I also think some top managers would have seen. They were there again on Saturday.
muttley
03/02/2014 12:51:00
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I personally think van Gaal has already been lined up. The only concern is the transfer business in the summer as van Gaal won't arrive until after the world cup. Will he then have sufficient time to assess the squad or will there be purchases/sales without his consent?
yiddyboy
03/02/2014 12:53:00
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MrSpurs - "Experience is important, but you can also have plenty of experience at the age of 16 or 18," he says.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/van-gaals-vision-seeks-recreate-football-utopia

Also, anyone unsure about Van Gaal, would be well served reading these links

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2528329/What-Tottenham-getting-appointed-Louis-Van-Gaal-manager.html

http://espnfc.com/players/manager?id=99&cc=5739

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/tottenham-hotspur/10555116/Louis-van-Gaal-still-interested-in-managing-Tottenham-when-his-Holland-contract-expires-in-the-summer.html

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/van-gaals-vision-seeks-recreate-football-utopia

There's a part in that first link that had me in stitches... "Take one tale relayed to the press by Bayern’s Luca Toni where Van Gaal dropped his trousers in front of the squad to demonstrate he had the ‘balls’ to axe any player from the starting line-up."........ Got to LOVE that lol.. Seriously though, have a read of those links, it'll take all of 5 minutes, and then tell me he doesn't seem like a perfect fit :-)
coopsieyid
03/02/2014 12:54:00
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Sherwood is in his first job in charge of a PL club. 7 weeks on, we've lost one PL match in 8 and, to the top form team in Europe. What do we seriously expect the man to have achieved in less than 2 months?
MAN ON!
03/02/2014 12:55:00
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haha MAN ON spot on. That was the only match we have looked decent against any opposition this season and Swansea were poor.
Mix26
03/02/2014 12:57:00
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