Vital Football

Latest Tottenham Hotspur News

Spurs v Everton: The Report!

Spurs v Everton: The Report!

Deja vu anyone?. A mediocre performance with us nicking the spoils. Please remember, all my articles are wrote straight after the game. No Post match interviews from Sherwood watched, and no involvement with VS until article submitted, so apologies if things have been covered already.

First things first, I have read numerous posts on the pre match article relating to Sherwood not implementing any system. I think this has somewhat been lost in translation, I'm pretty confident that Sherwood was trying to put across the fact that the players should have enough nous to be pro/re-active to scenarios in games without his instruction at times. That does not equate to there being no tactics/system, just the fact that he believes the players should have a bit of sense about the game going on around them. As for the game and tactics....Here goes!.

Wow! That took some doing, a worse performance than last week. I did not hear his exact words, but in summary, pre match Sherwood talked about us not pressing at all costs but if a player smells something then we'll go in with two or three. Here lies the problem, you go in two or three to make the player make the mistake not to pounce on his mistake. This is exactly what Everton were doing to us in the first half, in our faces hurrying us into mistakes, poor choices and poor passing. It works, and in games like this it's a requirement. We were getting closed down by numbers all over the pitch. Everton had more desire, it showed clearly.

Leads me nicely on to one of my major bugbears...Desire, or should that read lack of. Am I missing the point or is this something that should not need coaching all too often, if ever? For the chance to gain another league position and stay on the tails of top 4 I thought I would have seen so much more. How wrong I was. I'm not going over it again now, i feel I've made my thoughts known many times along with others. Simply put, no desire, how do you expect to win?

So, the game itself. We set up 4-2-3-1/4-3-3, take your pick. I actually thought this was the way to go, and was intrigued to see how it would pan out. Bentaleb again selected, with Dembele given a more attacking role. From the off, Everton were forcing the issue and in the first 8 minutes required a fine save from Lloris down to his Left to deny a fiercly struck Osman effort. Fine save Lloris, well done. Everton continued to press, and yet again our WBs were all too often out of position still loitering high up the pitch. Rose, well, I think he's caught Walkeritus. The amount of times he got forward and left Verts to cover his vacated space was farcical. Many times he went forward, but when attack broke down he stood about and was still further forward than Eriksen, why? A couple of times he did get back, but now into a CB role. Yeah, coz our Danny's dead tall isn't he. I understand the fact that maybe a CM will be tracking back to cover the WBs foray forward, but all too often Paulinho and Bentaleb were bypassed with ease. You have to bust a gut Danny to get back. If you are too knackered to sprint back, save some energy and choose your attacking runs forward wisely.

Walker, got up and down as usual. Often giving the opposition a headstart and with Baines forever overlapping he did alright all things considered, just about enough defensively, and did get across to cover the backline a couple of times very well. Crossing however was not his bag. Two minutes after 2nd half re-start, 2 Walker crosses, 2 balls hit straight into first man. Terrible. Plus side was his quickness of thought to fire the ball to Ade for the goal. Clever little beggar Kyle, no first man to beat. I like it.

Daws and Verts had a steady game, in fact, Verts did well. Often covering Rose and reading danger before it materialised. For all Evertons dominance, they kept the threats to the edge of the box and marshalled the Centre well considering Midfield was all too often easily breached.

Right, alot of you like to discuss him, so here we go....Bentaleb Watch....Considering many were substandard, I thought he had a mixed bag. He made some good interceptions, but as stated, was also got past far too easily and at times looked a little naive in his decision making. For me however, he did more things right than Paulinho, whom I thought had a shocker. I'm still of the view that Sandro/Capoue sitting as a holding Midfielder would allow Paulinho to play his more natural game. He didn't look comfortable with the defensive element of his role at all in this game. Dembele, well done, you put yourself about, beat a few, tracked back, got stuck in and showed the aforementioned spirit I'm wanting to see. Yes a couple of runs into no-mans-land, but on the whole a good effort.

Uh Oh !...Aaron Lennon. Where has your pace gone?. Has Sherwood really told you to come inside more?. How many times was the by-line chalk met this week?. No more than once if I recall. Why?. You have pace to burn, your pace is your threat, and harsh it may be, but if you are not to use it, I don't really see what we are gaining from the inclusion. Am I being harsh, or like me (and others) do you feel we've kind of lost our Azza threat?. Yes he's not for scoring loads of goals, but he was our lightning quick outball, our winger to drive the LB deep into his own half. Where's this gone?. He doesn't even seem all that keen anymore in pulling Walker out the mire through his tracking back. C'mon 'Azza Blud'...Back to tearing all the LBs a new one please.

Eriksen, I thought he did o.k, made himself available, tried a few through balls, but in fairness there was not much movement yet again. Think the movement disappeared with Lennon's pace. Would like to see Eriksen fill out a bit this summer (it appears I have the very diet to suit). He get's pushed off the ball a little too easily at times, but he did show some of the desire I talk of. Ade, yes my man. Yet again you come up with the goods. Not your best performance, but again a spirited effort compared to some. Maybe not your best performance, but a MOTM match winning one. Great strength, great finish. Thank's big fella.

Come on, keep up!...It's Sherwood time. Well, as already stated, I'm even more convinced that an out and out DM is the way forward. Not a jack of all trades, master of none. I want the masters in the masters positions.( told you I was greedy). Formation was considered, not sure if all the player selections were. Substitutions... Lennon had to go ahead of Eriksen IMO, but Capoue for Paulinho was a good call. Mixed bag really then for the Manager/Coach. Still think there is something very lacking in the desire stakes, and he needs to crack the whip on this one. Really happy for the 3 points, and knew it was going to be tough, Everton only losing 3 before the game. Alot of the flaws still appear evident as they were back in the day when we/some were hiding behind the 'gelling' process (myself included).

I think we should be expecting more from the team now, not the finished article maybe, but desire and the look of a cohesive unit surely?. Well, we march on to the next battle still in the race for forth, and still grinding out some victories that beggars belief. Sign of a good team they say, debate that one all you like. As for throw- ins, At home we're in White, Away, you'll usually find it's blue. No need for thanks!

Finally, having played his last home game in a Spurs shirt may I take this opportunity to wish Jermain Defoe every success for his new adventures in Canada. Thank you very much for your efforts, and enjoy the twilight of your career.

JERMAIN DEFOE HE'S A YIDO!....JERMAIN DEFOE HE'S A YIDO!…..

All the best...Cider Spurs.

Win FREE pizza with Vital Football!
Select your team and get 50% off if they score twice.
www.papajohns.co.uk/football



Click here to join in the debate on the club forum.

Writer:Cider Spurs.
Date:Monday February 10 2014
Time: 9:31AM

Comments

0
Cheers Cider ... Could just about copy and paste this report from some other games!
Geofspurs
10/02/2014 09:40:00
0
Cider, a fair view of the game..
Block D Spurs
10/02/2014 09:40:00
0
Write's the article...Claims the 1st.
Cider spurs
10/02/2014 09:40:00
0
The 1st 3rd of the season. ;-)
Cider spurs
10/02/2014 09:41:00
0
We are still in the dressing room, 40 mins. after kick off.. TS has to get them awake and ready to go.. perhaps when they are on the coach, or in changing room...some Japanese happy clappy workforce motivation would help? lol.. As they do in the car factories for example..
Block D Spurs
10/02/2014 09:43:00
0
3rd post cider.. :-)
Block D Spurs
10/02/2014 09:45:00
0
Right...I brought it up. Lennon. Attempted One take on Yesterday, completed Eight passes, and registered no crosses. None of his passes were into Everton's box either, in fact the majority were only just in Everton's half. Good enough?. Sign of a pacy winger?.
Cider spurs
10/02/2014 09:51:00
0
Thanks Cider, agree. I wont say much on the game or tactics, I'll just do a Tim and stand on the touchline looking confused....
Mix26
10/02/2014 09:53:00
0
A good overall assessment I think, but I think you needed to add that we had both luck and Hugo to thank for this result, I thought we were very ordinary in the second half, cannot comment on the first half performance as no spurs players arrived to be commented on (Hugo the exception)
totuae
10/02/2014 09:55:00
0
World cup year also Azza'. You not like Brazil?.
Cider spurs
10/02/2014 09:55:00
0
Everton pressed really well but maybe they over did it because other than the first 10 minutes, they didnt create much & Lloris was as much a spectator as Tim Howard. Also after going a goal behind, you expected an onslaught in the final 10/15 minutes, but it looked as though they had nothing left in the tank, or simply ran out of ideas.
Guyver
10/02/2014 10:00:00
0
TS set us up to a greater degree how we were just about all calling for before the game. According to him he asked the players to press high up, but this didnt happen. So if he did, why didn't it happen because it was the right thing to do. So if Sherwood did say this and did set up how we all hoped does it come down to the players. Sure thing Paulinho was very poor by his standards and equally Lennon and yes Cider i dont understand his desire to move in so quickly so often and yes both fullbacks need to go forward more selectively a good lesson in the yesterday from everton. was pretty awful, worse case scenario is the players don't respect and wont listen to Sherwood or at least some wont. Sandro in the mix might helps things and if Lamela could be 50% of what we all hope that would help too. Tough game midweek and we must improve as we must win.
tophobunty1882
10/02/2014 10:02:00
0
Cheers cider. Just watched it again. I think a lot of our problems where we are losing the ball are coming from midfield. We often have 3 players falling over each other leaving nowhere to pass. Ultimately we lose possession here. Is this a result of lack of formation, player intelligence and understanding or players being sent out as individuals to win on their territory? Great 3 points, poor performance, goal came from an early taken free kick( great foresight by Kyle) and a super finish by ade. No one knew what had happened, and another day the free kick could easily have been recalled. How frustrated was verts when he had the ball, and no one moving for him to release to. Same with rose and throw ins. Couldn't get past the first man yesterday with any set pieces. In comparison to the last few games eriksen couldn't do his thing. I think that's a confidence/ frustration issue. Still, just 3 behind pool( 4 with GD) COYS.
Dublin Hotspur
10/02/2014 10:06:00
0
I didn't hear Sherwoods comments about telling the team to get at them until after the article was written. Sorry, but if that was supposed to be us getting at them....Well?. Let's be rational here also, how many times this season can we hand on heart say we have played outstanding?. Far more mediocre performances have outweighed the performances we should have witnessed IMO. A decent half here and there are not top 4 credentials. Fine if we go down fighting, better team would have one on the day, no problem. But for those who thought we showed character yesterday, i'm afraid i disagree. A few did, but not enough, and i honestly believe if we had played like that against a better forward line, yet again we would have been put to the sword. Not asking for Liverpool performances each week, however, don't wish to witness "Not give a toss F.C" performances weekly either.
Cider spurs
10/02/2014 10:06:00
0
What you did not mention Cider was Evertons penalty shout near the end, we have all seen those given and would have been screaming for it had it been in their box !
totuae
10/02/2014 10:09:00
0
Lloris held his line much better and pulled a couple of great saves out of the bag. I guess daws and verts had a good game so!
Dublin Hotspur
10/02/2014 10:10:00
0
First off, it was a crucial 3 points and a vital win if we have any hope of finishing top 4. Sadly, performance like those will not get us there. Everton should have had the game done and dusted by half time, let’s all be honest, we got away with it. BUT im not going to complain about that. Every other week we seem to be the better team, More shots etc yet draw or lose so it’s nice to steal a win for a change!!

Ok, positives for me were ADE who took his goal wonderfully, Walker who had a pretty damn good game considering he was constantly outnumbered on that side, Lloris who again kept us in it early on. Dawson who pretty much did a job on his own at the back at times and Betaleb who was by far our best midfielder
Negatives: Paulinho, worst performance I’ve seen from him. Nowhere near up to the standard we expect. Eriksen, Ditto. Looked far too lightweight. Strange when you look at Holtby’s outstanding performance for Fulham!! Lennon, how this guy keeps starting games is just a mystery. Same lack lustre performance with no end product again. Vertongehn, very poor throughout. Caught out of position so many times and seemed to be wearing banana skins for boots! We won’t be in any risk of Barca coming for him if he keeps those performances up

I think that sums up the game really, half the team just didn’t turn up. It seems to me that bar Dawson and one or two others nobody really gives a $hi7 about the spurs badge! You look at Osman, Baines etc bleeding for the shirt and the badge, there was just no passion or urgency at all. I don’t see how you can blame a manager when the players just aren’t up for it. Its his job to motivate them etc yes, but they have to transfer that onto the pitch. I actually liked it when he came out and plainly said the players didn’t do what I asked them to. It’s about time theses millionaires tale some of the flak.
hudderspur
10/02/2014 10:13:00
0
I think the player have a "mental block" after the big loss to City and Liverpool. The team sit way too depth and only push up more in the second half.
aye-aye
10/02/2014 10:19:00
0
Capoue too slow and clumsy nearly lost us the game
stephenspurs1210
10/02/2014 10:21:00
0
topho...Good man!...I too was thinking that if Tim did indeed express his desire to the team regarding up and at them, and they failed so miserably, where lies the problem. I held back on the...Do they respect Sherwood train of thought through fear of it turning into a AVB vs Sherwood debate. But as you raised the question, i think the players like him, but respect is a whole different issue. Obviously Sherwood is still learning and it showed at times yesterday.

On a few occasions Rose was at LCB after getting back from an attack and watching Verts marshalling out at LB. I thought to myself, when Sandro returned, first or second match?, when a CB had been pulled out of position or drove forward, there he was filling in the CB role. He shut out a few attacks there. Now after witnessing Rose there, who had run back PAST Paulinho and Bentaleb i thought o.k this is a one off,... no, it happened Three times. Yes the exact thing Sherwood has stated in the player using his nous should have happened, it didn't, but after the 1st time Sherwood still did not instruct either CM to slot in, instead waiting for Rose to chase back to the gap. Yes the line can shift across, but as witnessed vs Arsenal, one ball across to opposite flank and you're left exposed. All these little things, which to me are basic have added up to myself questioning desire and players/coach naivety at times.
Cider spurs
10/02/2014 10:21:00
0
totally off the subject I would like to hear what you all think would be a good points total for March. If we can't beat them all who is it best to beat for fourth.
tottscotspur
10/02/2014 10:22:00
0
Oo RB and Rw are playing ass backward! Lennon does more defensively then Walker, Walker is more of an attacking threat then lennon! Danny Rose is a Winger not a LB, playing a winger as a left back and then not playign a winger infront of him is a receipe for large gaps at the back!
Slurms McKenzie
10/02/2014 10:23:00
0
Right lads n lasses. Off out, back in bout' hour.
Cider spurs
10/02/2014 10:26:00
0
I must have seen a different game. Thought we were pretty bad first half and lucky to go in 0-0. However, the second half was very good - can you recall an Everton chance? How many times did Naismith and Mirallas give the ball away or fail to bring it under control? Loads, and because of our positional play. Rose was awful but I think Walker had an OK game, stretching the play and in the second half Baines hardly got over the half way line. Dembele worked his socks off and I agree Paulinho had one of his worst games. God how I have missed Verts - he makes Dawson play well too!
Sebastian Short
10/02/2014 10:29:00
0
WE were totally outplayed yesterday but sneaked a win thanks to Ade's moment of class. Very disappointed with some of the performances and the worst of the lot was Lennon.....what has happened to him? He has never been one to shoot or provide a decent cross but he was able to run round full backs and give us width. Now we have no wingers/wide players at all. What is the point of playing him? We sadly missed Sandro yesterday to give us some bite in midfield. Dawson has a big heart but smaller brain..he could have got sent off yesterday for that dive in tackle he missed by five minutes. Lloris , Ade and Verts deserve their places; the rest were a hotchpotch of poor passes and lost 50-50 tackles. We were SO lucky to sneak the points.
wentworth
10/02/2014 10:29:00
0
Someone on here recently suggested we need two full-backs instead of wing-backs, the thought being, I presume, that the emphasis would be on defence. Not a bad idea come to think of it. How many times do we get caught out by pressing too high up and then can't get back in time. We don't have fast enough players to play a high line game imo; or maybe we don't have the defenders with enough positional sense?!
Geofspurs
10/02/2014 10:30:00
0
All Sunday's game proved to me that if you put classy players together they are capable of winning games. They don't necessarily play with fight, passion and care as much as they should. The manager seems incapable of firing them up and even making early subs to prove who's the boss. TS went through the motions with a very safe team selection, average substitutions and is lucky he's not getting a battering from the fans this morning. Harry or AVB would have if the fans watched a manager deal with a game like that. I live in hope he's learning from the baptism of fire. He can only hide behind his win ratio for so long though.
muttley
10/02/2014 10:35:00
0
Was at the game yesterday. Some good points made. Certainly we are not pleasing on the eye, as has been the case most of the season, especially at WHL. However, I think we need to recognise who we played yesterday. Prior o the game Everton were above us in the table with the least amount of defeats in the Premier League. Thus far Arsenal, Manchester United and Chelsea have failed to beat them so I think the 3 points gained yesterday is a fine achievement. Quite frankly it is a little naive for any of us to expect this Spurs team to dominate a match against a team above us in the table. First half we weren't at the races, no argument. And Hugo kept us In it with a fine save from Osman. But that apart was he really flying across his goal at regular intervals? I'm pretty sure he wasn't. One thing that Sherwood needs to address though is these ridiculous slow starts. What does he say them before they go out? It was the same against Palace where like yesterday we got away with it. But as we found to our cost vs City the better teams won't let us off the hook. We need to start much quicker and get on the front foot. But he obviously got into them at half time and I thought there was a much greater intensity about us in the second half. You sensed it in the crowd and our fans responded and created a good atmosphere. Best it's been at WHL for a while. Ok, we didn't take them apart with free flowing football but I think we need a sense of perspective here. It was a tight, even game between two very closely matched sides and with fortitude and determination we came out on top. Personally I still think 5/6th is were we will end up. Yet for the time being we are still hanging in there. So I think it's been a good weekend and not one for any negativity. COYS!
Paxton Chris
10/02/2014 10:35:00
0
re Bentaleb seems to be a moxed bag right now although I have seen more negatives than positives. The problem is we have NO ONE in the squad that has the technical ability, spatial awareness allowing us to keep possession better and slow down temp of a game. And how old is he?? The only other option we have there is Capoue/Sandro but then I feel if you overload the midfield with work horses then we will start playing sideways football again. Am not saying Bentaleb is the bees knees but just that in the position I feel he is the best avaialable and needed. Paulinho I feel needs to brush up his act but once Sherwood works out his best team then we will be fine. We do have a good squad and with a top striker, left back and Central defender added to the mix and a couple of departures then we have nothing to worry about. Below Bentalebs touches yesterday...We need to get behind him..COYS!!! http://www.newsnow.co.uk/A/695095307?-11179:5808
freddya
10/02/2014 10:40:00
0
Paxton, I was at the game too. It wasn't evenly matched, Everton the better side most of the game. They lacked bite up front, they missed their best player. First shot on goal at the 60th? At home? The second in injury time?
ItalianYiddo
10/02/2014 10:42:00
0
It's going to take Paulinho a couple more games to get properly match fit. He was brilliant before his injury and it will make a huge difference if he gets back to that.
Geofspurs
10/02/2014 10:44:00
0
I think you summed it all up very well Cider. Aree on many issues, Rose disappoints, I thought pre injury at the start of the season he looked like he had improved so much after his season at Sunderland. some of his crosses yesterday were better but his defending and decision making were so poor, I hope he can continue to improve, he needs to. I agree with Slurms, we need to get the front men wide to do more of the front men wide than the full backs, yes have the back moving forward, but much more selectively at least to steady the ship and get some shape back. Sebastian does make a good point that we did tighten up and improve second half clearly, but it came from such a low starting point.
tophobunty1882
10/02/2014 10:46:00
0
Anyone know what Ade's goal celebration is all about?!
Metal Spurs
10/02/2014 10:46:00
0
I agree Paxton. people are going on as if Lloris was overworked. Everton had 3 shots on target, 2 of which came in the 1st 10mins and only 1 of those shots forced a really good save from Lloris.
Guyver
10/02/2014 10:51:00
0
Italian yido. respect your opinion but don't agree. 1st half were second best, can't argue but were we really hanging on after the goal? Watch it back if you get the chance. Sometimes when I'm at a game I see it differently but on 2 nd viewing my opinion changes. I suspect we all want to play better and dominate teams, especially at home. But I repeat that we played a good side yesterday and 3/4 nil is not gonna happen. Am not trying to pretend it was great but I think you should credit us with toughing it out against good opponents. BTW Jan was superb yesterday and makes the other 3 defenders play better too. Don't forget that back 4 and Hugo were keeping clean sheets for fun at he start of the season
Paxton Chris
10/02/2014 10:52:00
0
Good article, Cider and spot on post, Topho. The issue we're having is players doing as they're bloody told. This is what's affecting team selection and you can't blame a manager not playing those who aren't behind him or responding. From where I'm sitting, Sherwood is looking a good manager and he's, in hindsight, been very honest. From the start he's mentioned this player trust issue, despite what it may make him look like and at the risk of losing his squad. He's honest, not difficult to get on with and seems to be hitting the nail on the head. Surely the players can feel the heat as we all turn to look at them?
jerkinmahjurgen
10/02/2014 10:57:00
0
Paxton ... I record games and often watch them twice, as well. I'm usually surprised the second time, when I watch the match more objectively, that the game was not quite what I thought it was from the initial viewing. I just hope TS makes the team sit and watch the games too!!
Geofspurs
10/02/2014 11:11:00
0
Seems to me that Sherwood is winning Capoue over or he wouldn't be getting used. Well done, Tim. Well done, Etienne. Lennon is a massive worry. Any history on his relationship with Tim? His body language and performances are pity-full.
jerkinmahjurgen
10/02/2014 11:12:00
0
Maybe its just me but in the game I watched Loris only made the one real save. I saw two teams working hard, closing everything down and largely cancelling each other out with very few real chances. Perhaps I was watching a different game.
jod
10/02/2014 11:13:00
0
Not quite sure why Lloris is ahead of Ade as MOTM?! He made one brilliant save but had relatively little to do after that, apart from collecting some high balls into the box. Ade, imo, was playing to win throughout the game.
Geofspurs
10/02/2014 11:15:00
0
I will slightly disgree about deja vu (tight game, nicking the spoils) due the facts that a) it was against someone far more difficult and individually more talented than Hull, Crystal Palace etc... b) it was against a team that we have only beaten twice in the previous 13 meetings! c) it was against a team that had only lost 3 times (Liverpool & Citeh away plus Sunderland home) d) it was not a lucky penalty decision that won the game, and the fact that the goal came from a striker in the box. Yes the goal was quick thinking by Walker, and was pure initiative, but it was completely different from AVB because I believe that previously, Walker would not have had the freedom to do what he did. I normally rip into Walker a tad, so I will give him a huge pat on the back here. He seemed to have one of his better games overall. The Hull draw away, was a good away point to a tricky team for us. This was an excellent win, and vs a tricky team. Games against rivals are key, because they feel even better if you back them up is wins after them. Newcastle is key. They are on really bad form, and Sherwood must attack them, and not let them rekindle themselves. Plus we owe them one.
TonyRich
10/02/2014 11:16:00
0
I gotta say how impressive Everton have been this year, let alone yesterday, Matinez has come in and built a very solid team with limited resources. They work for each other, pressure the opposition, commit men forward in attack while remaining defensively solid. WE on the other hand look completely the opposite we've gone from one extreme to the other, from the AVB rigid establishment to Sherwoods loosey goosey style. Yesterday again looked like a load of players chucked onto the pitch and were told to do what they wanted. The gap between defence and attack is to big there is so much space for players to run into i'm amazed how after 10 games we've only been beaten once, half of the players look like there kicking a hot potato, quickly getting rid of it playing the ball into dead ends. and the crossing, jeeze on bread, why do we struggle to kick it over the first man?. We are still to easy to play against, Sherwood need's to get over what he is trying to do and fast, Chelsea, Arsenal and Liverpool coming up in a few weeks these guys actually have strikers on the pitch they wont be wasteful as Evertons midfield.
coys1717
10/02/2014 11:18:00
0
Not many comments (for or against) on here about 'the kid' ... maybe TS knows what he is doing after all.
Geofspurs
10/02/2014 11:20:00
0
coys1717 - so you're amazed we've only been beaten once in ten. Maybe that says Sherwood knows more about football than you do ?
jod
10/02/2014 11:24:00
0
I would bloomin hope so Jod
coys1717
10/02/2014 11:25:00
0
Paxton Chris - Tip Top comments there. Got to look at the opponents. Liverpool have blown away a few opponents, but at the end of the day, they got the same number of points as us for their efforts. Yes, scoring five usually guarantees the points, but we have gone from scoring less than a goal a game under AVB - plus a few tannings - to Sherwood's AT LEAST a goal in every game, and just one tanning... Surely people should be pleased at least at that. The starts are slow, and maybe we should take a leaf out of Liverpool's book. We do not want to concede early, but usually when you REALLY come out of the blocks at home, the away team will back off. It nothing arises early doors - 5-10 mins, then relax a bit and be more patient. But that initial show of intensity perhaps will help you have impetus for the rest of the first half.
TonyRich
10/02/2014 11:27:00
0
An electrical cattle prod needs to be used on the players before each match.Usual appallingly sluggish start but overall we are too slow with our passing and dwelling on the ball too long. By the time we release the ball the pass is telegraphed. None of this is anything new
cynicspur
10/02/2014 11:28:00
0
At the end of the day, our squad IS top four quality (despite a few weaknesses here and there). Barring WBA at home, our results since AVB left have been ABOVE expectation due to the squad at the very least. Yes people can criticise performances, tactics, and player selection, but the last truly bad result was Dec 26th. Sherwood is doing the tricky job of adjusting the tactics, whilst maintaining the effectiveness of the squad. I will not moan until the results go bad. At least I do not see players being restricted as before, and played out of position as before.
TonyRich
10/02/2014 11:35:00
0
We must thank Holtby for damaging Man Utd for us. I can't help but think we did well to get him on loan. Fulham have some important games that may work in our favour, but unlikely. Fulham have to face Liverpool, Cite, Chelsea and Everton. Not saying they can get a result against these teams but if Holtby can do damage to work in our favour then maybe we can rejoice at the end of the season. COYS!
James1
10/02/2014 11:36:00
0
Every one is going on about Walker's quick wittedeness and how clever he was in spotting the free kick, what I want to ask is, did NO ONE see Ade pointing out to Walker exactly where and when he wanted that ball. Wal;mer responded to Ade's signals he didn't spot the pass himself. Just watching Ade yesterday brought home to me how much of a footballing genius he actually is. The way he adjusted himself for the goal and the way he improvised to finish, as well as spotting their defence slacking off and getting Walker to put the ball where he wanted it. Brilliance.
chrishove123
10/02/2014 11:36:00
0
I missed the first half, but saw it from 50 minutes onwards and what I saw was great, good fast attacking of the ball, apart from Bentaleb when he just stood there waiting for the ball to come to him almost gifting them a late goal. Bring back The Beast he would have sorted that out with no problems.
chrishove123
10/02/2014 11:38:00
0
TonyRich, I agree with you apart from At least I do not see players being restricted as before, and played out of position as before. ….. What about Eriksen consistently being played out wide on the left? He is a playmaker, at least that's the job he did very well for Ajax for four years or so whilst he was there.
chrishove123
10/02/2014 11:43:00
0
TonyRich, I have to disagree that a point away to Hull is a good result ! if we want to be taken seriously as a top 4 contender then drawing away to Hull is always gotta be seen as 2 points dropped !
totuae
10/02/2014 11:46:00
0
Anyone else think that there is no fluidity in anything we do?
spurticus87
10/02/2014 11:47:00
0
chrishove123 - we take that point, but in the same way that the Everton defence were NOT alert to Ade's movement, Walker WAS. It still takes awareness to keep your head up and look for forward pass opportunities (especially pleasing to see a defender do this), and it also takes ability to put it EXACTLY where Ade is pointing to. Give credit when it is due.
TonyRich
10/02/2014 11:47:00
0
totuae - Liverpool LOST to Hull away...
TonyRich
10/02/2014 11:48:00
0
Great to get the 3 points, very poor first half but picked it up second half, lloris didn't have much to do second half as Howard didn't have much to do much of the game. The main thing is scoring from our first shot on target, if ade keeps this up then great, we just need the others performing at the same level.
Kong
10/02/2014 11:49:00
0
chrishove123 - our left side ALL SEASON has had someone out of position. AVB played Siggy, Lennon there for a start. Eriksen has played on left maybe 3 times since Sherwood became manager. Therefore MOST games he has been in position. Who else has been out of position, barring the left back strife that AVB left us with - (Naughton), or the CB strife that AVB left us with (Capoue at CB).
TonyRich
10/02/2014 11:52:00
0
TonyRich I AM giving credit where it's due, I'm giving Ade the credit for having the wit and speed of thought to tell him where to put the ball, in his aftermath interview with Sky Ade even said that he told Walker where to put it. Yes it was good that Walker kept his head up and saw it, BUT I feel most of the credit must go to Ade for realising that the play was on and getting Walker to put it in when he did. It WAS a great ball in by walker, but I doubt he would have put it in without the guidance of Ade. If Walker learns to keep his eye open for things like that in the future that will show his class as he is learning all the time.
chrishove123
10/02/2014 11:54:00
0
TR like I care about the POOl I care about us and Hull are a team made up of journeymen and rejects (apart from our old boys of course) but Bruce has them playing a style that suits mid table mediocrity and a good result here and there for them is a bonus but they do not have top 4 ambitions that we purportedly have ! that said it has probably been the most topsy turvy season I can remember for a while,
totuae
10/02/2014 11:57:00
0
Lets not under estimate the improvement to our back line that Verts return has made. If he had a LB playing out side him who actually played out side him we would have shut down alot of Evertons attacking threat. Hopefully with Townsend's return we will start seeing him on the left and Erisken played centrally off the striker with a license to roam. Paulinho or Dembele partnered with Capoue or a fit again Sandro in the middle of the park. On the plus side of Lennon's performance, it will be alot easier for Sherwood to re-introduce Lamela on the right wing!!!
Slurms McKenzie
10/02/2014 11:57:00
0
TonyRich Verts was also played out of his position a lot until his injury, so yes TS HAS been playing players out of position. Maybe if he could drop his fight with Capoue then we wouldn't NEED to play so many players out of position all the time in the back four. Plus you said TS wasn't playing [players out of position, that only means one thing, that ALL the players are in their respective positions, I was simply pointing out that that was and is not the case.
chrishove123
10/02/2014 11:57:00
0
totuae - basically a team that finishes fourth is not going to beat the entire bottom half away from home! Otherwise, they would be vying to top 2. You should SEE Hull away a winnable, yes, but you will not win them all. When you pick up those not-no-winnable games away, such as Southamption and ManU, then you will take that Hull point as a good point. You should try not to look at it as points dropped, but points that you expect to gain. 7 away points from Southamption, ManU and Hull is an excellent haul. So what if the draw was the Hull game, and not the ManU game as you would normally "assume"?
TonyRich
10/02/2014 11:58:00
0
chrishove123 - yes I said it a bit too black-and-white. Generally players are playing more in position. Yes, the Capoue thing is annoying and too public. The Bentaleb-love thing is a bit baffling. I do not object to him playing some games, but it does seem like he is the first name on the sheet!
TonyRich
10/02/2014 12:01:00
0
Is Ade our new Gareth Bale?Another clueless Spurs performance is rescued by a moment of inspiration and class from the big man.If he gets injured we are sunk.I hope that Lamela will soon return to replace the dreadful Lennon and Sandro will beef up the midfield to free Paulinho to go surging upfield.Holtby looked more effective for Fulham than Erikson was for us-just a thought!
Greavesaboveall
10/02/2014 12:03:00
0
mostly agreed but not for dembele and lennon. lennon was up and down to expect some direct balls, which never come from dembele. well on one occasion, too deep to late... dembele never passes at first touch no one knows what time he will do, including teamates... that's not teamplay!
SpursWho
10/02/2014 12:04:00
0
We have no threat down either wing for the last few matches. One cross from Rose yesterday that eluded Ade. Infact Rose still looks like one of our best left wingers (from LB) and is doing the things Lennon should be doing, ie beating his man to the endline and swinging in a cross!
Slurms McKenzie
10/02/2014 12:05:00
0
Morning geof, re bentaleb. I'm a bit fed up of writing about the fella, and wanting capoue and/ or sandro to start ahead of him. I'm sure the debate will re start, my tuppence worth... I haven't seen anything much from him that generates play or holds the defence together when rose/ walker go walkabout. He seemed tangled up with the other midfielders yesterday, yes plenty of short and safe passes, but a good few horrors too that could have done us damage had verts not been there to mop up. He's doing ok for a rookie, but we have internationals that play where he's playing and capoue seems stronger, more focused, challenging and also switches play to an attacking mode far better. I'm still not sure why he is in droppable. I think there's more to that relationship than meets the eye. Whatever goes on off the pitch between players and management is fixable. Surely the team should not suffer as a result of personal preferences or differences!
Dublin Hotspur
10/02/2014 12:08:00
0
TR I agree that overall 7 points from those 3 games was probably more than we expected but after picking up the first 6 you gotta agree we should have been hopeful, the problem is I believe that TS is at present a lucky manager, as we have been playing football far below what we are capable of and still getting the points !! Quality is forever, luck eventually runs out !
totuae
10/02/2014 12:10:00
0
I disagree that our performance was clueless. We have some obivous flaws, sluggish starts, MIA full backs, a midfield that still hasn't really formed any kind of understanding (probably due to lack of games and injuries) Left wing filled by someone playing out of position, or Right winger having an absolute 'mare and a striker who at least knows where the back of the net is when he does get a chance, but is often out of position during attacks as he drops too deep (like a certain Robbie Keane). taking all that into account it wasn't a bad reuslt and the performance improved greatly in the second half apart from the last few minutes when Everton went balls out for the win and even then, with a bit more composure we could have addd to our goals!
Slurms McKenzie
10/02/2014 12:12:00
0
Our midfield was poor yesterday. We really do need Sabdro back. Anyone know when Lamela is back? COYS!
James1
10/02/2014 12:15:00
0
Slurms, I've said for a while, rose should be further up the pitch. It's like the bale situation all over again. Bale was bashed and put down as a bad omen when he played as a back. Rose gets the same treatment. I don't rate rose I must say, but I might if he played in what seems to be a more natural attacking winger / wing back. I still think we had verts, kabs and vlad as a solid back three, he could press more and have the DMs falling back to cover when he makes his run.
Dublin Hotspur
10/02/2014 12:16:00
0
I still havn't seen a change in the team from AVB to Sherwood.

We still lack the passion and the desire to win that we had during the VDV days.
The only difference now is we are playing a striker (Ade) that can actually score over *****e-dado.

The Ironic thing is that Ade is always slated for being a mercenary and has no passion for his team, but he's the only one in our squad that looks like they want to actually win games.
Rapm
10/02/2014 12:18:00
0
Metal Spurs; copy and paste into google ''adebayor salute celebration'' I don't have the answer, but it started back in his arsenal playing days.
spu 4 life
10/02/2014 12:19:00
0
simple, rose and bentaleb are tired and inexperienced to get best of themselves
SpursWho
10/02/2014 12:20:00
Page 1/3
  1. 1
  2. 2
  3. 3

Login to post a comment

Recent Spurs Articles

Match Day Officials v Southampton (8/5/16)

The Premier League have now announced the Match Day officials that will take charge of the game against Southampton this weekend.

The Big Ban Theory!

Hardly a shock, but its been confirmed that both Spurs and Chelsea, along with Mousa Dembele have been charged by the FA.

Storm Before The Calm...

Today could be the day that see`s one or more Tottenham players hauled into the FA dock..

Factors, Statistics And Logic.

Back in August we all worked out how the season was logically going to unfold. Remember? The trouble with logic is that it makes no sense .... especially when it comes to football.

Archived Vital Spurs Articles

Vital Spurs articles from

Site Journalists

OxfordSpur
Editor email
Profile
Spursex
no email
Profile

Current Poll (see more polls)

Head Over Heart, Who Will Win the Prem?
Suggested By: Vital Spurs
Leicester?48%
Spurs?49%
Arsenal?2%
Other?1%
ScoopDragon Premier League Network Sites

League Table

# Team P W D L Pts. GD
C Leicester City 36 22 11 3 77 30
2 Spurs 36 19 13 4 70 39
3 Arsenal 36 19 10 7 67 25
4 Man City 36 19 7 10 64 30
5 Man Utd 35 17 9 9 60 12
6 West Ham 35 15 14 6 59 17
7 Southampton 36 16 9 11 57 14
8 Liverpool 35 15 10 10 55 11
9 Chelsea 35 12 12 11 48 7
10 Stoke 36 13 9 14 48 -14
11 Everton 35 10 14 11 44 6
12 Watford 35 12 8 15 44 -6
13 Swansea 36 11 10 15 43 -13
14 WBA 36 10 11 15 41 -14
15 AFC Bournemouth 36 11 8 17 41 -20
16 Crystal Palace 36 10 9 17 39 -10
17 Newcastle 36 8 9 19 33 -25
18 Sunderland 35 7 11 17 32 -18
19 Norwich 35 8 7 20 31 -26
R Aston Villa 36 3 7 26 16 -45
Latest F1 News
Latest Vital Boxing News

Recent Spurs Results (view all)

Spurs Fixtures (view all)

May 8 2016 1:30PM : Southampton (H)
Barclays Premier League
May 15 2016 3:00PM : Newcastle United (a)
Barclays Premier League

Vital Members League Table

RankNamePoints
1.Kinygerbils89
2.meee9380
3.steveperryman46
4.Taricco the yid44
5.dogeatdog34
6.80deg16minW31
7.Nick Real Deal31
8.Real Deal28
9.Big Chiv27
10.BlueWhite26