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Dnipro vs Tottenham Hotspur.

We are off to the Ukraine to face the wrath of Juande Ramos. His article in the Daily Mail states that Levy was to blame for his departure by cashing in on strikers Dimitar Berbatov and Robbie Keane in the summer and failing to buy his two prime targets David Villa and Eto`o as replacements. That then opened the usual can of worms about Daniel Levy and Enic so we all had a good natter on VS about how wonderful Levy is or isn`t, depending on which side of the Profit and Loss  account you want to sit.
 
This is our last chance to win a bit of silverware this season and you have to hope that the squad is big enough for Sherwood to have a Europa League side and a Premiership side. If we get past Dnipro we face either PAOK or Benfica in the last 16. The first leg of which will be at the Lane.
 
We won a football game 4-0! And away from home! Not only that Sherwood managed to blow everyone`s brains with the team selection and the formation. Where did that one come from? Capoue sitting in front of the back four with Bentaleb and Paulinho playing higher up the pitch and Dembele coming in from the right was an "interesting" formation. Mind you Hugo Lloris was the reason why we kept the Magpies out of the game, some of his saves were unbelievable and all the more reason why we need to get fourth place otherwise some of our key players, like Lloris could decide to go if we don`t make Champions League.
 
Adebayor is now running the show. He plays as a spare centre back when we are defending set piece`s, he holds the ball up in midfield whilst we a get a move started and then he arrives in the final third looking for work.
 
I doubt if Sherwood would ask Ade to play in the Europa which means Soldado will be leading the line. £30m Lamela is out for another 6 weeks with a back problem. Chiriches is still out and Dnipro maybe too soon for Sandro, Siggy may be back though, as may be Rose.  Capoue looked good in his new role and Chadli could be a contender. The question is; will Sherwood use Bentaleb? Townsend could probably do with some game time where as Walker could do with a night off even though the squad will have had 9 days off because of our lack of involvement in the FA Cup. We have a winnable game at Norwich after Dnipro so that may have a bearing on the squad choice.
 
But what of our opponents? We seem to be spending a lot of our Europa League games in the Eastern European sector. Anzi Makhachkala, Sheriff Tiraspol and now Dnipro who our currently 4th in their League. They had a good win at CSKA Moskow on Valentines night although they did get 5-0 drubbing at the hands of Dinamo Moskow a couple of days before. Dnipro have reached the last 32 just 3 times since the start of the Europa League. Their last 3 meetings against English Clubs have been; won 1 lost 2, the last defeat being against Middlesborough in 2005/2006 who went on to get to the final.
The last time we met a Ukranian Team in the Europa it was Shaktar Donetsk when we drew 1-1 at the Lane and then lost 2-0 at their place. Dnipro's Yevhen Seleznyov came off the bench to score Shakhtar's second goal in that game. Dnipro have won three of their four European home games this season, but have yet to record a victory in ten fixtures in the last phase of a UEFA competition, with their matches to date ending ;D5 - L5.

Spurs are on an eight-game winning streak in the EL, home and away, with just 2 goals conceded in this year`s campaign, in fact, we have not lost over 90 minutes in our last ten European fixtures. It was Basel that beat Dnipro last season to qualify to the last 16 only to beat us on penalties and "that" Adebayor penalty!

There are now 5 more teams that have dropped out of the Champions League; Napoli, Shakhtar, AFC Ajax; Porto and this year`s final hosts, Juventus, who will be in the mix, so the final part of the competition will be a tough one.

Jermain Defoe is joint top scorer in the competition this season with 5 goals. Defoe is 11th on the all-time leaderboard alongside Dennis Bergkamp, Martin Chivers, Jürgen Klinsmann, Óscar Cardozo, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge.
Dnipro goalkeeper Alexandru Vlad and Tottenham defender Vlad Chiricheş were team-mates at FC Internaţional Curtea de Argeş in 2008/09 and at FC Pandurii Târgu Jiu in the 2011/12 season and Dnipro's Czech goalkeeper Jan Lastůvka played in England with Fulham FC, Blackburn Rovers FC and West Ham. Dnipro's Croatia forward, Nikola Kalinić joined the club in 2011 after spending the previous two seasons in England with Blackburn.  

Ukraine and Italy are the most represented nations in this seasons knock out stages with four teams each out of the final 32. Last season Dnipro were the top scorers in the 2012/13 UEFA Europa League group stage with 16 goals.

Ramos took over Dnipro in 2010. He led Sevilla to back-to-back UEFA Cup successes in 2005/06 and 2006/07, before his now infamous spell in charge of Spurs but he also coached Real Madrid CF and PFC CSKA Moskva.
 
This will be Tim`s first taste of EL football so it would be interesting to know if he has done his home work on Dnipro. A draw away would be a good result as Dnipro have struggled when playing in England. You have to fancy us for the last 16 again and meeting a glamour side like Benfica.  

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Date:Wednesday February 19 2014

Time: 6:27AM

Your Comments

A 1-0 win for us will be acceptable.. Ramos will motivate his team, and will have a go at us... hence my 1-0 (or more !)
Block D Spurs
Ts will need to rotate.. so we can expect walker rested, brad in goal.. daws in for kaboom...fryers in, for rose.. ade out, soldado in..siggy in. ericsson in..dembele out.
Block D Spurs
Good to see what fryers can do as LB.. and Naughton at RB..
Block D Spurs
Soldado needs to score.. build him back up in confidence.. otherwise he will be out in summer..
Block D Spurs
Just me here again.. lol
Block D Spurs
Anyway, i will be interested in what Ramos will do against us, he has an agenda with Levy...so i expect Daniel has told TS win this game..
Block D Spurs
Feels like the Marie Celeste on here.... lol
Block D Spurs
Hello... anyone there???
Block D Spurs
Well is this site like the rest of non London Vital Teams at the moment...ghostly...
Block D Spurs
Never mind is this a record in posts OX ??
Block D Spurs
I hope all our fans in Ukraine will be safe, and return home ok... COYS
Block D Spurs
By the way, what is the situation of TS in Euro games?.. he not got his management badges, so will Stefan be the official manager ?
Block D Spurs
Block .... Looks like you had a lot of possession after the Kick-off!! I like the idea of Fryers and Naughton in the backline. They would both benefit from the experience. Be good to see Soldado score as well. 3-0 Spurs!
Geofspurs
Cheers oyveh, nice bit of research in this, good work mate.
Dublin Hotspur
Morning block D. Having an interesting chat I see! All well mate?
Dublin Hotspur
Can Tim manage in Europe?... Dunno actually.
Dublin Hotspur
Hi dublin.. I had a good chat with.. me.. myself .. and i... lol
Block D Spurs
Geof.. G'Day..how did i guess you would say a 3-0 win for spurs... :-)
Block D Spurs
Dublin.. at 12 consecutive posts on Vital Spurs article.. (well done again OyVeh) beats Norwich Spurs record of 9 posts i think?.. Thanks for allowing me this little bit of a record Ox..
Block D Spurs
Good morning Dublin, Block D and Good day Geof. 3-0! (David Colman) COYS!
James1
Hello James1.. we now know our aussie friend as 3-0 Geof.. lol
Block D Spurs
Morning James
Dublin Hotspur
morning Geof
Dublin Hotspur
morning Jim Bob
Dublin Hotspur
I have a feeling the game might be postponed.
jacobslad
Yes bad riots there.. hope all fans & players are ok..
Block D Spurs
cancel it as its not in europe and its not safe.
tophobunty01
I think we should put a good strong team out and try to win decisively! 3-0 would be fine Geof, Then go out and beat Norwich with a bit of rotation there if needed, as they are probably weaker than Dnipro, and then if we go into next weeks home leg in the EL with that lead, we can start some of the less high profile players in that match and rest some first picks so we are at full strength for the Cardiff game the following Sunday. We should then have some good recovery time to get everything together for the Chelsea and Arsenal games. Arsenal play away to Bayern on the 11th March, if we get through v Dnipro we will play the next round on the 13th, so Goons will have a slight advantage on rest time, but I believe our squad is deeper than theirs so we can juggle those two fixtures as we see fit. Lets go all the way!
Dublin Hotspur
If they do cancel, it could be rescheduled at a neutral ground which would be no harm, but it would need to be in the next week or so as the next round starts in 3 weeks!
Dublin Hotspur
Hahaha Geof could have been called worse Block D! Do you think the game will be called off? If so it will be a bonus (depends how you look at it). Gives us more time to focus on the league game. COYS!
James1
Looks bad on news this morning James 1... not sure if FIFA will cancel..
Block D Spurs
Hi Guys ... What's with all this 'good morning' stuff?! It's 4:45pm here in the future. Block ... you must be psychic ... or I must be predictable!
Geofspurs
When Soldado starts scoring regularly, or his replacement does, I will promote myself to 4-0! :-)
Geofspurs
Dublin ... I like your thoughts for the next couple of weeks. I'd be quite happy if all it worked according to plan.
Geofspurs
A bit difficult to cancel as it will throw out the already heavily congested Europa League schedule for the remaining games. If Dnipro can't safely host it this evening then they should forfeit the first leg 3-0. That's for you Geof!
SpuriousLife
Block D it looks quite hostile to say the least. Like youbsaid I hope the fans arw ok and don't get caught up in that mess. COYS
James1
Thank you spurious ... and I will dedicate the win to you!
Geofspurs
My phone is losing its marbles!
James1
Can't believe UEFA haven't done anything about Kiev v Valencia.
jacobslad
If the game were to be played at a neutral ground, I'd suggest the Emirates ... Spurs fans would get a decent ticket allocation at the ground for once!!
Geofspurs
Dnipro is located far away from Kiev, where the main problems are. When Spurs' game vs Everton was called off due to riots, games elsewhere went ahead... The severity of the uprising in Kiev could dictate any judgement, and given that it is all anti government, you probably would rather not visit a country going through a potential revolution... If anything, you could see the game canned and then re-staged in a neighbouring country - which would not be good for us. The other bad thing is that we are bound to have zero support over there if the game does go ahead.... As jacobslad said. If Kiev game going ahead, then ours surely would too.
TonyRich
As per the game: Brad in goal. I would play Rose, Daws, Verts, Walker. I would not play Fryers in the away game, but would consider him for the home game. We have had a long rest, and the defence needs to be relatively strong to give the rest of a team a chance. Midfield: Chadli, Lennon on wings. Chadli has experience in Europe, and needs a game. Capoue is fresh and is a must. Pair him up with Paulinho. Then I would have Siggy behind Soldado. Townsend to come on for either winger in second half.
TonyRich
According to another site (ITK), discussions with FO, UEFA and Spurs are taking place this morning and decision to be announced midday.
jacobslad
Tony, I like the line up, but would put eriksen in behind soldado instead of siggy and sub swap them if needs be. Re the match, I hope it goes ahead as otherwise it's gonna end up being rescheduled around the Chelsea game. Much rather be able to play around with the team v Norwich or Cardiff! Gonna get busy if it is moved!
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin - Eriksen was rested vs Newcastle, so perhaps up for it. Just trying to find the right balance between rotation, strength and experience. Agreed that rearranging the game would be terrible for us. We just had a long break, and it would be bad to follow it with a volley of tricky fixtures.
TonyRich
I'd maybe play lloris for this one too tony, and if we get a good lead going into leg 2 we can put friedel in then. Less risk the better for this one. If we lose or draw we will have more pressure to put out our strongest team next week, and after the rest we just had I think the boys should be well capable of winning this by a margin and then look at it for the home leg.
Dublin Hotspur
I agree with Eriksen behind Soldado. TS could start the same team at Norwich as he did at Newcastle, and Eriksen would still be on the bench if needed. We really need to win the next four games, before the fixtures get a bit tricky. Be interesting to see what the team will be ... especially how TS plays the Kid in the next two games.
Geofspurs
my earlier post asking whether TS could manage in Europe…. I wasn't questioning Tims ability, but whether he is allowed to manage a team with no badges… Just for the record before someone jumps all over me! LOL
Dublin Hotspur
Geofspurs - Eriksen destroyed Norwich at the Lane. Would want him to have another crack at them definitely. Norwich may be struggling to win these days, but they just drew with Citeh - so not at easy as it appears.... we must go all out for the win vs Norwich. To have any chance of 4th, we ideally need to take max points from Norwich & Cardiff before we go thru a tricky patch of games in March.
TonyRich
You've always had it in for Tim. Dublin, I can see through your thinly veiled lies about coaching badges...
Slurms McKenzie
Morning all, Happy Christmas Geof!
Slurms McKenzie
Wouldn't mind seeing Chadli from the off for tomorrow's game. Siggy and Townsend the other two behind the striker. Capoue in the holding role and Paulinho and Bentaleb just in front. Then bring in Lennon, erisken and Dembele for the weekend?
Slurms McKenzie
I think its important that Eriksen plays against Dnipro. He was rested for the Newcastle game and I think its brillaint man management from Timmy as not all our class players have to play every game. Keeps plays refreshed when other players and teams with far smaller squads begin to tire. Never seen Dnipro play but with Timmy we always go on the offence and I, for one as looking very forward to the game.
Lady Tottingham
Dublin - I agree that rules are rules. When Gareth Southgate became manager without the badges, there was a whole hoo-hah about it. Now it seems fine...? I am not complaining because it is going better than before Tim turned up. We in this country have an incredibly low number of badge-qualified coaches as compared to Germany and Spain...who "coincidentally" are two of the favourites for the World cup.... Hmmm.....
TonyRich
Oops one too many! in the middle there, Oneday will hardly notice, would he? Just take out Bentaleb and leave Siggy and Paulinho in the middle with Capoue cover the defensive midfield. Paulinho probably needs the game time more then Bentaleb.
Slurms McKenzie
Or play Dembele and Bentaleb and drop Siggy. Then unleash a central midfield of Paulie and Erisken agains tNorwich. Or Play Siggy on the left and Cadli on the right and then bring Townsend on after 50/60 minutes for which ever more is more rubbish?
Slurms McKenzie
Or go balls out fo rthe win and play lennon right and townsend left with Capoue Paulie and Erisken in the middle. Ade up top...
Slurms McKenzie
Okay My eleven is Lloris, Noughton, dawson, Verts, Fryers, Capoue, Lennon, erisken, Paulinho, Chadli and Ade. With erisken and Chadli switching between the left wing the just behind the striker.
Slurms McKenzie
Got there in the end slurms!! Like that team, and to be fair Fryers can't be any worse than rose at LB so give him a shot, and I actually think Naughton is better than Walker as RB so give him a shot. need strong cover in Def and DM as they have yer man who I can't spell's name who will try to burst through. Thats a nice strong MF and attack Mr McKenzie, and I do think we should go all out to win by a margin and take the pressure off next week! But I do think Robbie should play the 2 EL games, he has goals in the comp and needs some more to get his confidence up, which has been shot all season. another hat trick from Robbie would be amazing for him and us!
Dublin Hotspur
Evening Standard reporting that Gomes is in talks with Leeds regarding a loan spell.
Dublin Hotspur
I reckon we should make the most of it; it's all downhill when TS gets his badges and innovation goes out the window!

Not sure what the team will be, and there's too many options to speculate. As long as there's 11 players wearing Spurs shirts they'll be fine!
Geofspurs
The game is going ahead
Lee Treend
Thats good news Lee, as the prep has been done. stay safe to all the loyal travelling fans, keep your passports on you and enjoy the match… then get the hell out of dodge!
Dublin Hotspur
gomez needs to go and play,his been sitting on his backside doing nothing for so long and earning shatloads.get some pride man
ghulamville
Dublin, I asked the same question about Tm's position (manager-wise) in Europa before. Seems no one really knows. I guess it is academical as he will still be sitting amongst all the coaches in the dug-out, as long as he is not sitting on a seat that has a 'head coach' label on it!! AND..may be he is not allow to allowed to stride up and down by the touchline!

What if the game gets called off, does that mean the home leg becomes the 1st leg or that too gets postponed?
Critical_Spur
on another note,the prandelli links are getting sstronger by the minute.i was very impressed with him in the euros
ghulamville
game on as Lee said:
http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenhams-europa-league-tie-in-ukraine-gets-goahead-9138167.html
jacobslad
http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/02/18/five-facts-about-rumoured-spurs-managerial-target-prandelli/
ghulamville
critical somebody answered the sherwood europe coaching question a while back on another thread. would not play Ade slurms if he gets crocked we could be f....d for the season, we paid 26 million for the other guy, give him a go.
tophobunty1882
Critical, does that mean we don't get to see Timmy and les doing the touch line boogie? Gutted!
Dublin Hotspur
What was the outcome regarding managing in Europe, does anyone know?
Dublin Hotspur
I want to see the boogie again!
Dublin Hotspur
Logos, if you are about, can you put up the boogie again? Just incase Tim has to be strapped to his assistant coach seat for this match!!
Dublin Hotspur
I'd like to see Veljkovic, Coulthirst and Fryers all start. Friedel or Gomes in goal. Wouldn't even take our key players at the moment......Egobayor, Verts, lloris (IMO). Certainly wouldn't want to see them play. Then its about who plays at Norwich, and work around that. Play as many young black players as possible, it'll be a baptism of fire for them.
jacobslad
Soldado scored a goal in open play in the Europa league for us last year. Or did I just dream that?
Greavesaboveall
hope not ghulam
tophobunty1882
greaves not a dream, against albanian ww11 vets reserves, they turned up thinking it was a seven a side, bit of an advantage to us there. but he must start because if ade gets injured we can kiss goodbye to a season of dreams.
tophobunty1882
Topo,I have faith in Soldado because you have to be a cock-eyed optimist to support Spurs and I think he is a class act.I'm more worried that the players may find that wearing full riot gear hampers their movements
Greavesaboveall
Greaves, he did, and he scored a hat trick in one of the games! More of that would be great, for him and us, he is a class act, but his confidence has been shot and I think with the way we have played him and then dropped him the pressure has been huge for him to score. He has played some lovely link up play with ade too. Remember the cross to ade for his volley goal? Sublime. Never saw him do that for his previous team so more to come for sure. I like the lad. He will do well!
Dublin Hotspur
Soldado will just have to write off this season and start next season with hopefully a good pre-season under his belt. Too many factors this season. Agree with you Dublin and Greaves; he is a class act. COYS!
James1
5 goals in PL, three less than ade. 4 assists, highest assist rate in our team. 5 goals in EL including a hat trick. Not sure why he gets such a bashing. Not bad for a newbie who played most of his games in the gelling period, and has not had much game time since. Think he has had 48 shots in the PL so conversion not great, but that comes with confidence. Dnipro the perfect 2 games for him to start getting some game time and start getting his shooting boots back on. IMO of course.
Dublin Hotspur
Greaves ... What do you mean 'you have to be a cock-eyed optimist to support Spurs'?! We're gonna win the league, we're gonna win the league, we're gonna win the league! Oh, Right, I see what you mean. :-)
Geofspurs
It does amuse me that the media are saying that defoe is being rested for this game, when he has hardly kicked a ball this calendar year
oxfordspur
Sums it up re: the media. Clueless! COYS!
James1
Crazy ox! He's off next week isn't he? I'm sure Toronto have said he can't travel to a war zone! He has scored a good few in the EL this season, but he's away next week and to be fair he had his farewell moment at the lane already, so no brainer really! Not rested, just not playing for us any more!
Dublin Hotspur
I agree Dublin. It would be ridiculous to risk anything happening to Defoe now, including injury. Might as well play the ones we're going to have to count on for the rest of the season in any case ... but not Ade for this game, I hope.
Geofspurs
Coopsie ... If you're around, hope everything's okay! COYS
Geofspurs
Greaves, I admire your faith genuinely. I see it as a questionable use of 26 million of club funds. For your faith to be repaid would be very good indeed, starting tomorrow night would be good. Truth is he has been very poor and a huge disappointment to date. I think Spain is the best place for him. Onwards and upwards for him, lets hope he comes good.
tophobunty1882
Agreed geof. No ade
Dublin Hotspur
Can't wait to watch this game tomorrow. Seems an age since we played. I love us being in european football.
Dublin Hotspur
With you on that Geof. Hope coopsie and family are ok. When was the last time he was on? COYS!
James1
Geof and James + me. Hope all is well fella.
Dublin Hotspur
Afternoon all. I hope Ade doesn't play too. Hate to see him crocked. Soldado needs game time to help him through his confidence problems. Hope Naughton and Fryers are the full backs. Stronger defensively than Walker and Rose. Keep Capoue in dm role and let the other 5 get the goals and assists.
longtimespur
soldado will be just fine. he's been down before given that age... he'll recover. confidence is the key. the first a few games he's high but unlucky. will be just ok.
SpursWho
My Team for Thursday. Friedal and Siggy. Minimise collateral damage .
tophobunty1882
booooooooooo hooooooooo boooooooooo hoooooooooo booooooo hoooooooooo booooooooo hooooooooo
tophobunty1882
spurswho lets hope its quick he'll be drawing his pension soon mate. wonder what he's worth today against that 26 mill? 8?
tophobunty1882
I wonder what must be going through Lamela's mind? Adored by Roma fans, touted as the successor of Totti and dreams of playing in the WC. He must be worried how things have turned out. Sooner he plays the better. COYS!
James1
He's injured James, leg injury then back injury as a result of treatment. 6 more weeks and he'll be back. Not done much good for his World Cup hopes, but he will also be great for us!
Dublin Hotspur
James1....being injured he will presumably be filling his mind with the English Language, and no doubt attending to his financial affairs which are considerably improved from last year! I am sure the young man will overcome his "worries", one of which will hopefully be not about himself but about how he can repay the club that put so much faith in him. And I am sure he will. Theres a few weeks to go until he is back, but if he has a good finish to the season maybe Sabella will go with him.
jacobslad
Yes sorry I should have stated that he is injured in my post, but it must be torture for the lad. I just hope when he is fit he'll be raring to go for Spurs! COYS!
James1
56 million
tophobunty1882
Last time we played Ramos in Europe the competition was exciting and the return leg offered one of the best atmospheres I’ve ever experienced, 25 solid minutes of 'Martin Jol's Blue and White ARMY, boom, boom, boom, boom'...........I miss that drummer.

This year we expect a win and it is relatively boring, Topho is right, play the cr4p and rest the quality. Norwich might sound like a winnable game but considering city couldn't even score we should not take them lightly... The only reason to play a decent team tomorrow is so we can take it easy in the home leg and rest people for March.. It is all about March, our whole season is all about March!!!
T.H.F.Chris
Lamela was the best money we spent, he hasn't had a chance to show his worth yet, but he will be great!
Dublin Hotspur
THF, we will have a tough game at Norwich, two years back losing at home to then all but cost us CL late on, they are desperate for a win and if Tim goes 442 gung ho they might turn us over. and yes to March it's tough but one can see 3 years of growth riding on one month.
tophobunty1882
James1...."torture" is probably what unemployed young people in Argentina feel. I am sure the lad is taking his set backs in his stride and sees the bigger picture. He is still only 21, plenty of time. Lets not think he is thinking of jumping of the London Eye. Bit of perspective. He might even be enjoying the respite with everyone touting his price tag in his face.
jacobslad
Chris, IMO Europa is a trophy and is important. I don't think we have much cr4p in the squad, but I would like to see a strong team out and win decisively so we have the option to be more selective in the home leg. I think the city game v Norwich was a blip!
Dublin Hotspur
Chris, IMO Europa is a trophy and is important. I don't think we have much cr4p in the squad, but I would like to see a strong team out and win decisively so we have the option to be more selective in the home leg. I think the city game v Norwich was a blip!
Dublin Hotspur
Let's hope Levy doesn't take the easy option and sell him. I can't see it somehow unless Lamela makes it clear he doesn't want to play for Spurs. I like to think Lamela is made of the right stuff and give it a real go when fit and in contention for 1st team football. COYS!
James1
Double. Sorry. Bloody phone.
Dublin Hotspur
Well said James.
Dublin Hotspur
James, Levy is between a rock and a hard place with Lamela.
tophobunty1882
Jacobslad you naughty boy that was taken out of context and you know it ;) If I say he has itchy feet would that imply he has athletes foot or just wanting to go out and play football ;) Agree that a break from football might have done him some good. COYS!
James1
Kiev Valencia game move to Cyprus apparently.
jacobslad
Played tomorrow still Jacobs? Or rescheduled?
Dublin Hotspur
Now then James, don't get patronising. I found both your posts re Lamela's state of mind a bit negative. With every negative there can be a positive and I am sure Lamela and the club are doing everything to make sure he returns fighting fit. I expect next time out he will have added a few more muscles and be doing the MOM interview, in English.
jacobslad
tomorrow ko as scheduled.
jacobslad
Wow jacobslad I'm sorry mate, didn't mean to patronise. I was just jesting hence the smiley face. COYS!
James1
Or interview in spanglish.... lol... but i think the lad has got the ability to be a top player, just needs to be injury free and playing time in first team or U 21 ease back into fitness..
Block D Spurs
Dublin ... Great double post. I agreed with the first one, but not the second!
Geofspurs
OK James no problems.....having spent the last 4 weeks in Phillipines I suppose "naughty boy" might actually be appropriate. The main thing is we both agree Lamela will come good. I don't think Levy will think of selling him....unless he got the money back. I shall never forgive AVB for not playing him against Newcastle after the Sheriff game. Maybe AVB can't forgive himself!
jacobslad
Topho agree we should take Norwich seriously but equally see a very good chance of three points, fit Adebayor is important.

Dublin yes ‘cr4p’ was a hash term but 'average' didn't really fit the sentence, Siggy, Chadli and Fridel are all average mate, be happy to eat my hat but can't see any of them making it and would prefer Lennon, Eriksen and Townsend over them for Norwich/league matches. I used to think like you that winning Europa would be a success and to be honest if we did I would be over the moon, but realistically getting to the semi's and then finishing 5th would be the worst case scenario.
T.H.F.Chris
I am looking forward to lamella playing regularly - I do think he's got talent …. final push for the double - EC and the top 4!! COYMS - keep safe boys and girls… - anyone know the squad gone out there ?
Highgatespur
I know you lot are all crying out for Soldado to play but really i want to win this tie early and put it to bed. Ade to start, 50/60 minutes and two or three goals later take him off and lets see what Soldado can do. Then start Soldado in the home leg when we've already won the tie and the home crowd can get behind him and he can start his long road back from obscurity! Ade could get crocked in any game he plays for us until the end of the season. I won't let fear dictate my team selections! Admit it you all hung your heads a little bit after reading the last line!
Slurms McKenzie
Highgate, I heard lamela is a real team player, the other guys love playing with him, in fact he would bend over backward to create a goal scoring chance - hence the injury...
Slurms McKenzie
TMI Slurms !!!! He's good you wait and see ! Just found out the Bentaleb isn't eligible...
Highgatespur
Glad to hear it jacobslad. Yeah that was an odd one re: Lamela. He played his best game for us and then gets dropped. Stubborn man I guess? COYS!
James1
At some point Lamela needs to have a run in the league. I have absolutely no idea how good he is but want to find out .... and the sooner the better.

You all know that what happened between Norwich and City has no meaning for Sunday. Football never works out by such comparisons, even though, in theory, it should. Coincidentally, I see the 3-0 win to us tomorrow being repeated on Sunday. :-)
Geofspurs
Same here - got the feeling though Norwich will play well against us….
Highgatespur
Bentaleb isn't eligible - I think he's French?
Slurms McKenzie
Lamela has to earn the plaudits at Spurs like he did in italy! I do think that in Tim Sherwood he has a coach who will get the best out of his talents! Lamela's last few games for us could make or break Sherwoods longterm Spurs career. In fact if he got Lamela and Soldado looking like fifty million's worth of talent I'd say he has a job for life!
Slurms McKenzie
Hahaha love it Geof! Can't help but think of the late great David Colman everytime you bring up Modric, sorry I meant 3-0! COYS!
James1
Slurms ... Is that life's 'life' or manager's life?! One appears to last much longer than the other. :-)
Geofspurs
Well I would sit in with 2 CM's, Bentaleb and Capoue and have Townsend wide and JDefoe on the counter. What is the point of keeping him till End Feb if not for these fixtures. He has played 5 mins since the end of the transfer window to say goodbye to the fans in the PL. Hope he plays at least in the return fixture so I can see him off with an ovation. Total waste of a useful striker that has served us superbly whatever some may think.
CoysRus
Geof, I agree, first post was quality, the double up was pure drivel! Lol
Dublin Hotspur
James ... I cried my way through a Real game the other night!
Geofspurs
Chris, I think we can take chadli out of that threesome you put up. Might not be world beating but has a great boot and better than we have seen in his limited game time. Siggy is a good player but don't think there is anywhere for him realistically in our squad at this time, friedel is friedel, good to have but prob his last season.
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin ... lol
Geofspurs
Chadli, like Lamela, needs a good run in the side too. imo
Geofspurs
Hahahaha Geof. I take it Modric was not only pulling the strings on the pitch but your heart as well ;) Maybe if you drink some Castlemaines XXXX you would feel a little better mate. COYS!
James1
Geof, all players need to prove themselves worthy of a run in the side ahead of others who are playing proving or having proven themselves worthy. Lamela's situation is close to unique and he has for a number of reasons not had much chance. Chadli has had a number of chances and simply not done enough. One would hope his very good goal coming on late in the last game might help start him moving in a better direction.
tophobunty1882
Chadli, Lamela and Siggy need to play in their favoured position and given a decent run. Then we can judge if they're good enough. I fear we won't see this till next season during pre-season. Hope I'm bloody wrong! COYS! COYS!
James1
Chadli's goal v newcastle... Sublime
Dublin Hotspur
Sorry should have stated I agree with your post Geof re: Chadli and Lamela. COYS!
James1
It was Dublin. Would love to see more of that ; ) COYS!
James1
topho ... I agree with you re Lamela, and that Chadli has had more games. But I don't think he has had enough of a consistent run and I'd like to see more of him simply because I can't judge him based on his games so far. I guess a few players have suffered from rotation, injuries, and being played out of position, which has made fluency on the pitch difficult to achieve.
Geofspurs
So what is the goal of the season so far for Spurs? Chadli's recent goal is up there. Any takers? COYS!
James1
Any one from 5 Soldado penalties...
MAN ON!
Hahahahahaha brilliant MAN ON! Good afternoon sir! COYS!
James1
James ... The next one! :-)
Geofspurs
Can't argue with your post Geof. COYS!
James1
not many to choose from, I bet for some in here Chadli's goal at the weekend also makes him player of the season. Siggy will be sold in the next window he isn't good enough
tophobunty1882
topho ... Siggy is another one I can't work out. I'm having a lot of problems trying work out this team (maybe you've noticed). It's never been this hard before. :-)
Geofspurs
Holtby scored a few crackers. The clever lob over the Anzhi keeper was sublime. COYS!
James1
Chadli's goal( sublime), ade's goal with soldado's assist( sublime) and sandros goal( awesome) the beast wins for me
Dublin Hotspur
Off to bed. Night guys. :-) COYS
Geofspurs
Oh that was a beast of a shot...yeah that was a cracker from Sandro. COYS!
James1
Night Geof. Catch you tomorrow.
James1
The Valencia match is apparently now to be played in Cyprus but ours is going ahead. A lot of our fans will be landing in Kiev even though Dnipro is over 200 miles away. People are being killed there for Christ's sake! Let's hope they all get through unscathed...... They could take in a little rioting whilst there. Make themselves feel at home...
MAN ON!
Sandro's is my choice..... Followed by Eriksens against.... (Who was it?). I can't remember.
MAN ON!
Christian scored a great free kick against WBA, but it's not that one. The curler against Tromso, I think.
MAN ON!
A good goal is worth a million bucks, so Soldado's goals are worth well over 2 million each...
Slurms McKenzie
Just read that Gomes may be going to Leeds on loan.... He's still alive then.
MAN ON!
Gomes made some gaffs but I still think he is top drawer. Some of the saves he made were quite breathtaking. Leeds will do well with Gomes but he is only as good as the defence in front of him. COYS!
James1
OyVeh Maria...Thanks for the article. Little oversight....Europa our last chance to win silverware this season you state. Do we not get given a cup when we win the Premier League?. Last time i checked, we were still in the Premiership. ;-)
Cider spurs
Cider how's things down your neck of the woods? COYS!
James1
I've now just read that the Ukrainian President has declared tomorrow a day of mourning for those that have died in the unrest. It is said that all sporting events have been cancelled. I've know idea how this affects the match. Will it be played elsewhere like the Valencia fixture that's been moved to Nicosia in Cyprus?
MAN ON!
*no idea*.... Let's hope it gets played somewhere tomorrow.
MAN ON!
James1....Still very much flooded. Dutch pumps have been drafted in, Plenty of the forces and police still present, makeshift depots gettting set up to recieve the animal feed and all associated from National donations. I'm in the town roughly 2 miles from all you see on the television. It's going to take a long, long time to right this one. In one village there is only one solitary house still inhabited out of about 80+ homes. Anyway, hope is all good with yourself, and you're looking forward to the game tomorrow. Seems like an age since we last played, just hope it goes ahead, but more importantly all fans are kept safe.
Cider spurs
ManOn they should just cancel the game, too much going on and its not that important, not as if it's the African Nations Cup now is it?
tophobunty1882
I feel it should have been postponed already. Before the team flies and before supporters travel. But no, these thing are always left to the last minute it seems.
MAN ON!
Personally, with so much unrest in the Ukraine at present, i feel this match should be most definitely be played elsewhere, no excuses. I only just posted that i hoped it went ahead, but if tomorrow is indeed classed as a day of mourning, one, that has to be respected, and two, emotions are sure to be running high.
Cider spurs
MAN ON!....Agree, a definitive answer sooner rather than later. It's not just the money issue for travelling fans, but some have booked annual leave from employment, and we all know how sacred holiday allowances from work are. 2 days off to fly to Ukraine and back for nothing other than witnessing unrest is not the way i would choose to utilise my booked holiday.
Cider spurs
Ah hell Cider. Feel sorry for you guys, especially for the elderly, children and inferm. The government certainly ballsed up there and should be made responsible for not helping out sooner. If it was London the *****s would have pulled out all the stops. Fingers crossed for a speedy recovery mate. I agree the game should be called off or at least played in another country. Might be too late but like Cider said, out of respect of the nation maybe it's wise to call it off.
James1
Obviously football should take a back seat when considering all events occuring in the Ukraine at present. This does however pose a question, if the match is to be postponed, does anybody know if there is a set timescale when the match has to be played by?, and no, i don't want to hear that it has to be played prior to a PAOK or Benfica. (one of our next opponents if we overcome Dnipro) I know how you lot roll, wind ups.
Cider spurs
I don't know the answer to that Cider but with the return match being next week I presume the game would have to be rescheduled for after that.... If it does go ahead I've read that Emmanuel Adebayor, Aaron Lennon, Kyle Walker, Mousa Dembele, Younes Kaboul and Hugo Lloris have all not travelled. So it looks like some serious rotation going on.
MAN ON!
MAN......I'm quite suprised Paulinho has travelled also if your info is correct. Just hope we put the tie to bed tomorrow and all come back unscathed and ready to finish February with nothing but wins and are ready for our biggest Month of the season thus far in March.
Cider spurs
italian journos saying cesare prandelli is a done deal-listen to paddy agnew o talksport=http://talksport.com/football/agnew-prandelli-tottenham-could-be-done-deal-14021980416
ghulamville
lets talk about this
ghulamville
a bit premature and quite brutal on tim sherwood i would say
ghulamville
ghum, is this is true and Baldrick is involved we should find the nearest tree for him...........Cider highly unlikely this will be put to be tomorrow by us.
tophobunty1882
topho,you not a fan of baldrick like me?
ghulamville
top...Hence the word "hope" included in the post. Myself, like you it appears, feel this will be quite a tough match, i also think Norwich will be a tough prospect to follow on Sunday. Don't wish to be a doom n gloom, but if i had to try and predict the results in both matches, i'd go for draws in both. Obviously not what i desire, but just the way i feel about it at present. Hopefully that'll mean i'm way off the mark, and we win both by a handsome margin.
Cider spurs
ghulam....I hear this Prandelli brought Italian football back from the brink regarding the National team, didn't do too bad at Fiorentina either, but i know very little about him. It appears he has a pedigree in Italy, but other than that i can't really say whether his appointment would excite or disappoint myself. Do you have any more knowledge of his footballing ethos and or man management?.
Cider spurs
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26260813 Tim Sherwood has defended his decision to leave a host of big stars behind in England for Spurs’ Europa League trip to Ukraine. Emmanuel Adebayor, Aaron Lennon, Kyle Walker, Mousa Dembele, Younes Kaboul and Hugo Lloris have all not travelled. But boss Sherwood is still confident ahead of the last-32 first leg at FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk. Despite six stars being absent, Sherwood believes there is enough quality in the visitors’ squad to do well. And he hopes to have some of his crocks fit for Sunday’s trip to Norwich. Sherwood said: “This is the only cup competition we are left in and we are taking it seriously. “We should still have eight full internationals in our side tomorrow. “We have a big squad and should hopefully cope." UEFA forced Spurs to train at Dnipro’s training round on Wednesday as the hosts’ pitch is so bad. The game is still set to go ahead despite political unrest in Ukraine, particularly in Kiev. FROM AROUND THE WEB: Manchester United signed Kagawa over £32m superstar (GiveMeSport) During 2013, EA gained almost 60% and posted revenues… (eToro Blog) 5 Signs you're marrying the Wrong Person (Entertainment Daily) Irish dad’s reaction to the news his son has “failed” his… (theCHIVE) 12 years of amazing technology change Friday (Atos) Only Speedskater Who Didn’t Fall Wins Women’s 500 (The New York Times) Japanese soccer coaches put expertise into practice in… (Nikkei Asian Review) Clear Canoe or Kayak – See the world below you (Survival Magazine) Recommended by 2 comments To leave a comment, you need to login via Facebook by clicking the button below Sort: Newest Oldest Most Popular Most Active Report Abuse 7 Matthew Mccolgan 10:04 AM on 19/2/2014 Tim said there will be up to 8 internationals playing that's not putting a weak team out and I find it disrespectful to the players too they play in the premier league and your not bad if you play in that league! If he wanted to he could play the under 21 team COYS Report Abuse -28 Colin Lant 9:40 AM on 19/2/2014 Another Manager who Demeans the sport if you won't play your Strongest Team don't enter the Competition Follow mirrorfootball @mirrorfootball Recently Published Dnipro boss Juande Ramos relishing reunion with former club Tottenham in Europa League clash The Spaniard lasted just under a year as Spurs boss before being sacked in 2008, just eight months after delivering the League Cup Previous Articles Tottenham's Erik Lamela out of Argentina squad as only two Prem-based players included The Spurs man is recovering from injury but only Man City pair Pablo Zabaleta and Sergio Aguero are included Tottenham manager Tim Sherwood wants to keep Zeki Fryers at White Hart Lane Related Tags Teams Tottenham Hotspur FC People Aaron Lennon Hugo Lloris Kyle Walker Tim Sherwood Younes Kaboul Emmanuel Adebayor Organisations UEFA Europa League Ads by Google You Could Be Owed £2400 If You've Ever Had A Credit Card You Could Be Owed A Refund barclaycard.bankrefunds.net Euro Football Live Watch the 2012 Championship Free Live & Online - Get Free App! www.bringmesports.com Play RPGs on a New Level You want role-playing action League of Angel’s got it! Play Now www.leagueofangelsonline.com Download Music Free 20,000,000 Songs for Download - No Streaming, Yours to Keep - Free! music.bearshare.com See more stories you'll love You've turned off story recommendations. Turn them on and we'll update the list below with stories we think you'll love ( how we do this). Recommended in Sport Arsenal vs Bayern Munich Arsenal vs Bayern Munich LIVE:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26260813 Tim Sherwood has defended his decision to leave a host of big stars behind in England for Spurs’ Europa League trip to Ukraine. Emmanuel Adebayor, Aaron Lennon, Kyle Walker, Mousa Dembele, Younes Kaboul and Hugo Lloris have all not travelled. But boss Sherwood is still confident ahead of the last-32 first leg at FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk. Despite six stars being absent, Sherwood believes there is enough quality in the visitors’ squad to do well. And he hopes to have some of his crocks fit for Sunday’s trip to Norwich. Sherwood said: “This is the only cup competition we are left in and we are taking it seriously. “We should still have eight full internationals in our side tomorrow. “We have a big squad and should hopefully cope." UEFA forced Spurs to train at Dnipro’s training round on Wednesday as the hosts’ pitch is so bad. The game is still set to go ahead despite political unrest in Ukraine, particularly in Kiev.
spu 4 life
DONT READ THE LONG ONE !!!!
spu 4 life
Cider, fear not, we will go out to win decisively tomorrow and will have 4 or 5 of our core ready for sunday. Norwich / City was a blip. we will beat them. if we don't we have problems! if we win decisively tomorrow we can be more selective next thurs, go out strong V cardiff, beat Chelsea and do the goons + Paok or Benfica. March will be easy compared to December and we came through that ok! new manager, fixture list gone crazy, injuries… March will be a piece of Pi$$ compared to the xmas we just went through! BTW, hope you guys are dry my friend!
Dublin Hotspur
The chicken kiev is not recommended when ordering food in the ukraine, the last one started a riot.
spu 4 life
Ghulam, Baldrick yes Baldini no. Brave management by TS leaving top players at home against the best team we have played on a thursday this season.
tophobunty1882
What do we think, arse lose tonight, draw tonight or win. considering their return away leg is the tues before we play them! what do we want?
Dublin Hotspur
just hope the jack russell bites his own Ba77s and oxigenade chambermaid stubs his toe and both join the physic room at London Colney for the next 6 months along with walnut and rambutt!
Dublin Hotspur
I think win for Bayern so Les Arse have to send out the big force to Munich for the away leg.
Dublin Hotspur
I just hope all players and supporters going to this shi7 hole return home safe, this game should have been called off, kiev airport is barely safe and trains out of kiev are either delayed or attacked, the trains go to Dnipro from Kiev. Another UEFA phuck up.
spu 4 life
then more injuries for le scum and a soldado / ade double hat trick v goons for a 6-0 win that weekend. ill sleep on that one!
Dublin Hotspur
Haha Ozil at least our penalty taker only cost 26m
Lee Treend
42m cuant score from 12 yds, ours cost 26m he can.
spu 4 life
Ozil, £42M, Soldado £26 mill. Ozil pens taken 1, scored 0, Soldado Pens taken 6, scored 6! a goal is a goal and a hole is a hole!!! SOLDADOOO!
Dublin Hotspur
please god spu 4 life. Look after yourselves lads!
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin, ozil has missed two penalties this season, just saying :).
Kong
Alright Dubs, how's it goin'?. Yeah not too bad for me personally, but absolute sheit for many surrounding villages. Thank's for asking, hope all is now calm over in the Emerald Isle?. My boss thought it would be a marvellous idea to get me outside working about 3 weeks ago, yep, just as the rain and storms came. I've been pi$$ wet through every day since, never really liked the bloke to be fair, i'm kinda now thinking he's worked that out. As luck would have it, being a real man, it'll take more than a daily wet one to break my spirit, that really annoys him, and that make's me happy. Been there for years, he's been there a couple of months. He'll learn, 4th manager i've seen come and go in the past 4 years, seems the employees are fine but the managers struggle, you'd think a sensible manager would want the employees on side on that basis. I might help him along, depends how wet i get. ;-)
Cider spurs
Apologies if i don't respond to posts for a while, but i recorded the Arsenal match because the Missus wanted to watch the soaps, just going to watch, catch you all later.
Cider spurs
Cheers for the update Kong, makes me even happier!
Dublin Hotspur
lets not go all chav thick on here, we need arsenal to win this go through after the second leg and go as far as they can without winning it, picking up injuries as they go along, appreciate that's a bit too much brain use for some of the chavs on here.
tophobunty1882
Cider, glad your safe, hope the cider farm is safe too! bosses come and go, get wet, smile on the face and pi$$ him off. good man! feel sorry for the lads down there that have been ruined. suddenly a flood near windsor and the army and even the princes are out lifting sand bags!! disgrace! win for Bayern tonight preferable for you? decisive win for us tomorrow, preferably played in Italy?
Dublin Hotspur
One down!!!!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Was it a hamstring or did he bite his own ba77s?
Dublin Hotspur
If the Prandelli thing is a done deal, and the report doesn't say it is YET, it just says it could be done before May, I think it is a pretty shabby way to treat TS. He could at least have been given until the end os the season to see how he did before shoehorning someone into the wings. very disrespectful IMHO.
chrishove123
NO NO NOP we can't have HIM, he looks like David Bloody Jacobs. ARGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH.
chrishove123
At long last the manager of Spurs is using the squad like it ought to be used…. leaving the players behind so avoiding the strain pif travelling … no good travelling and not playing, a fact that was missed before … take applause Mr sherwood for this decisive action - hope it pays off - here's hoping a win tomorrow followed by 3 points at Norwich… Well done Cider for pointing we're still in with a chance of winning EPL… love this positivity.. A bit chancy having the game on tomorrow - good luck to one and all - safe travels everyone…
Highgatespur
As long as arsenal have to put out their best squad a few days before playing us,having lost the first leg, and risking fatigue and injuries before playing spurs at the lane…. I can only think that could be the best outcome! If they go through this round they would have a good chance of winning the tournament…having beaten the favourites.... and any self respecting spurs fan wouldn't want that!!! but as someone said, some spurs fans are only chavs….
Dublin Hotspur
oh dear a red
ghulamville
ITS ALL GOING TO PLAN!!!!! come on BAYERN!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Haha it gets better
Lee Treend
boooooo. alaba you muppet
Dublin Hotspur
Gibbs off hamstring :-) .................Waltzer Way Anchor Chesney sent off :-) Bayern missed penalty :-(.....still 2 out of 3 ain't all bad. Wenger Boys need another red card and a few more injuries. COME ON BAYERN 2-0 WIN would be nice
spu 4 life
My predicted team for tomorrow: Friedel Naughton Freyers Veljkovic Dawson Capoe, Eriksen, Chadli, Townsend, Soldado, Defoe "To dare is to do" COYMS!!!! Great, Szechney sent off Bayern a penalty - come on!!!!!! OH no!!!!
Highgatespur
Could all chaves, who don't want the best for the team, please levee the forum. this is your 5 minute warning… leave the area immediately and do not return.
Dublin Hotspur
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Dublin Hotspur
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Dublin Hotspur
@*88*
Dublin Hotspur
My team for the game is one that wins it or comes away with a draw, that will do for me. COYSpursssssssss
spu 4 life
Goons have one sub left, down to 10 men, come on bayern..
spu 4 life
*chavs* & *leave* LOL
Dublin Hotspur
Come on Bayern, 2-0 max please, have the goons left with something to chase, put out a full squad in 2 weeks. then play us COYS!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Sorry still catching up … Goal of the season so far ? Defoe's first vs Aston Villa in the capital one cup - Holtby's pass reminded me of the one and only Glenn Hoddle !!!! Come on Bayern!!!
Highgatespur
The real world thread is sorted!
Dublin Hotspur
not the beast highgate??
Dublin Hotspur
That was ozil's 3rd miss!!!
Highgatespur
Highgate? really? that makes me even happier again! Robbie was a BARGAIN!!! scores them all!!!! they all count!!!!
Dublin Hotspur
highgate good post mate
tophobunty1882
GET IN THERE!!!!!!! KROOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSS!!!!!
Highgatespur
get in KROOS almighty
spu 4 life
Dublin, We were told that all would click into place - can you another click ???!!! Soldado soldado - what a bargain!!!!
Highgatespur
We need to concentrate on the EL trophy. if we get 4th in PL great, are we ready to win it yet! dunno…holy grail.. in the meantime lets get some silverware, some Kudos, some CL game time next season and a new stadium next couple of years! we will be right up there in a few years lads. really think we would beat arse if we were playing them tonight, maybe even Bayern!
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin - Beast gaol was great but the Holtby's finesse, agility, insight, vision for the pass to the well timed Defoe's (never thought I'd say that) header reminded me of what spurs stand for - oh yea and it reminded me of Hod the God!!!! COYMS!!!
Highgatespur
Shame about Szczyzvzczbzn or whatever his name is. Does that mean he won't be playing against us? Thought Fabianski played well for them at the weekend.
longtimespur
Hod the God, that is a big claim highgate, but it was a sublime ball through…. Longtime, think there are at least 3 games tip they play us so no. rather he did play to be fair…. love him to eat all his words after we beat them!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Good post Dublin I think we can go for both this year - I think this squad has some hidden gems!!!
Highgatespur
Would like to see tmrws line up look like this..

.......................Soldado......................
Lennon............Eriksen......Townsend
.................Chadli...Paulinho...............
Rose....Daws.....Capoue....Naughton
......................Lloris...........................
Yidmarks
Allowing Capoue and Paulinho to hold the midfield... Chadli bringing Lennon Eriksen and Townsend into the game...
Yidmarks
Dublin, that was his nickname as i recall...
Highgatespur
mullered
spu 4 life
Get in there!!!! Mueller !!!!!! expensive night to see a game in one half !!!!
Highgatespur
Gooners beaten in silence of the LAHM's
spu 4 life
Perfect result!!!!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Tomorrow will be friedel, naughton, dawson, verts, fryers, townsend, paulinho, capoue, chadli, eriksen soldado.
spu 4 life
Not what I meant highgate, I know hod was a god! it was the claim that Eriksen can pass like him… sorry for any confusion… hope he becomes Erik the great! I'm sure he will...
Dublin Hotspur
Highgate, we have some sparklers in our squad. if we can only hold onto everyone and develop for another season, we could be anything!!! COYS!!!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin - sorry !!! Got into a few arguments over time in saying that… I am hoping REALLY hoping that Erik develops into another Hod… oh wouldn't that be brilliant!! I am sure he will as well. What a tool Carragher is - showing himself up yet again…
Highgatespur
what i carra doing?
ghulamville
Complaining that the prat face shouldn't have been sent off as it spoiled the game!! Naff off matey !!!
Highgatespur
# carragherknobhead
Dublin Hotspur
Bet Wenger has a right whinge, bet he also forgets to mention that Bayern should've had another Penalty. Hopefully Uefa will add to "our Chesney's" Red card with his "Masturbation" gesture by the orange tunnel when leaving the pitch. Classy Ches, Classy.
Cider spurs
No worries highgate! Knew what you meant. No rows here! You still living in highgate BTW? Used to frequent the pubs there when I lived in finchley and crouch end!
Dublin Hotspur
Oh, and well i'm on one. No wonder Ozil is so good at assisting goals....What else does he do?, What a lazy beggar, team player my arse, £42 Million of i'm too great to be bothered, could have signed Berba for £1.5 million for laziness. Jack's tongue tracked back more than Ozil, and that was facing the attacking direction. WOOF! WOOF!.....Down Jack!.
Cider spurs
Dublin I hope you are right about Chadli (sorry delayed reaction had to work earlier ;).... Also keep up the winning trophies attitude, it is the right one to have, I am just bored of the Europa league, pretty much since when the Chavs were given it after losing in the champions league.

Great to see the scum falling apart, players arguing with their £42m record penalty missing signing, suicidal keeping and Bayern taking the pi$$... End of the day it is all about spurs though and March 16th we will have a chance to go above them. Maybe not on the day but they will be on a bad run, out CL, maybe out FA Cup and slipping down the league, if we beat them at home we'll be on the up. March is the month!!
T.H.F.Chris
Dublin - yes still in highgate - nice pubs ever decreasing though… Don't like that Carragher - old Redcrap jnr was having a right old dig at him… Cider - was expecting the normal groan from Mr Didn't See it - amazingly subdued! Missed that sign - hope so ! Did you see that dirty bast**d flamini nearly hit him !!! Brilliant! Great two nights of football - now all set for tomorrow …. COYMS!!!
Highgatespur
Highgate lol "Mr Didn't See It", I am amazed, why would any club have a blind bloke as a football manager
matt hoten
As for the best goal, have to admit that was some execution of a pass from Holtby to get that ball up and down into a heading position for Defoe in a short length of pitch, one of the hardest balls to play, not quite as good, but not too dis-similar was the assist against Utd since being on loan at Fulham, again a little dinked ball over the top but started and finished in the final 3rd. Great skill and not to be under estimated, he just makes it look easy. Paulinho's Brazilian flick trick goal was cute, Sandro's was a beauty, Eriksen's free kick sublime, a couple of Ade's have been awesome and again made to look easy although have been quite hard chances, Everton being a good example.
Cider spurs
Pick one cider!!!! Lol
Dublin Hotspur
Clearly not the result we wanted tonight, we wanted that tie much more open after the first leg. Wenger might take the view the tie is done now or at least at half time in the return/ Good that TS has taken the view that we need to hold some of the best players back for Sunday, intelligent view. Just about all the rest are internationals and they should be good enough to keep us in the tie, well if they want to show they should be holding a place down regularly. Ozil 42 or Eriksen 11? I know where my money would go.
tophobunty1882
Topho any normal person would think like you said but Mr Didn't See It isn't normal - he''ll still think they can win 3-1 or 3-0 in Munich and play the strongest team available… So I am VERY happy - 16% possession opposition camped in your half …. huh !!!! Anyone would be embarrassed. Btw loved the berating Mr Wide Eyes by his so called teammates - All Together Now !!!! COYMS!!!
Highgatespur
not the best looker or 42 mill i have ever seen highgate. hope he does got all guns, i suggest if they are losing at half time, they will be pulling out of everything, like ozil did tonight really
tophobunty1882
I want to gloat as I have had my behind bitten too many times (not literally!!) but I did enjoy … the fact that all of them are saying "we nearly did it last year so why not this?" gives me great joy. I can't believe how a great player has been turned into a cabbage patch doll lookalike …. I hate the guy but Ballack was ace on Sky when he said that he feels sorry for his compatriot as he seems not to be wanted by his team….. EAT that goonies!!!
Highgatespur
"His eyes are offside, his eyes are offside, messed-up ozil, his eyes are off side"

Night....
T.H.F.Chris
Dublin - nice try …… can't wait for Holtby to come back….
Highgatespur
Sorry that should read Cider not Dublin - sorry fellas !!!
Highgatespur
WOW looks like there are a few more deluded fools on here Man On apart from we two. LOL
chrishove123
You're not the only one Highgatespur. Holtby is a class act. The boy has a bright future wherever he goes. Personally I would love him to remain at Spurs. COYS!
James1
Chrishove - what do you mean ? Too late for being cryptic ! (Lewis Holby ………)
Highgatespur
wow i didn't know benny was in the arms trade as well now, he certainly gets about doesn't he. LOL ………………………………………………… BAE agrees price on Typhoon jet deal with Saudi Arabia government.
chrishove123
Saudi Arabia initially agreed on a £4.4bn price-tag for the aircraft in 2007, but BAE tried to extract more money after the Saudis requested advanced weaponry and equipment for the jets, which are being built in Warton, Lancashire.
chrishove123
Oh sorry Highgate, it's a sort of running gag on here that I, Man On and the odd few others are deluded fools because we reckon that top four is still attainable. what optimistic deluded fools we are. So we have been told a few time. Now it looks like there are more people slowly joining us in Tim Sherwood's Blue and White Deluded Army. Please, feel free to join us and be yet another one in his army. LOL
chrishove123
chris ... Well, I certainly think you are all 'deluded' fools .... Why can't you all understand that the league title will be ours this season!! You're all pathetic (but in a nice way) :-)
Geofspurs
I have always said that we will be in the top 4 because WE HAVE TO!!!!! Been called a few names in my seat in North Upper Stand , at away games, from mates and strangers …. even in the darkest days of 5-0 home defeat !!! I will agree to you all joining my "mad cap" army of 1….(LOL) Glad to be in the highly sophisticated accomplished company such as yours….. COYMS!!!!!
Highgatespur
How the media are turning against the "buy of the century n5" … mmmm anyone notice the classic free kick by that Wartshire to the penalty box with only Kolscieny in there totally missed him and the next minute 2-0!!! That's what AW calls intelligent football?!
Highgatespur
G'd morning Geofspurs… The last time I looked you'd have to finish in the top4 to win the league title !!! (LOL)
Highgatespur
Hi High ... Actually, you have to be in the top ONE! Got a problem with that? :-)
Geofspurs
My best goal has to be Townsend's....The way he chipped the keeper and got the ball to nestle in the far corner. Real quality. ;-), that said the own goal scored by John o Shea has to run it close, what a finish!.
Cider spurs
Best goal?! Would have to be Soldado's against Arsenal ... when he was put through by Eriksen, turned their CB inside out, and dribbled around two other defenders and the GK before hammering the ball into the top left corner from 10 yards!! Oops, sorry, that's next months best goal!
Geofspurs
Morning all, afternoon geof. Perfect result for us last night. Score line was perfect! Wenger now has to go after them, and with us playing the a few days later this will be excellent regarding fatigue and potential injuries.
Dublin Hotspur
Cider, yes townsends goal was pure precision. How he got the ball past everyone, got holtby to duck and avoid it and fool the keeper and control the drop into the bottom corner! World class!! Lol!
Dublin Hotspur
Up the ARSE! COYS!
James1
Highgate, you been up all night again?
Dublin Hotspur
G'day Dublin. All good, mate? It was a good result last night. I'll drink to another one tonight! I can't get the Europa games so I'll wake up with eager anticipation (Eager's a lovely girl!).
Geofspurs
Geof, do you have a smart phone?
Dublin Hotspur
Highgate, great spot on the Wiltshire free kick, totally stupid, keep the ball there and they get out 1-0
tophobunty1882
Dublin ... No, I don't. I could add the Setanta TV channel to my Foxtel package, because it's shown on there. but haven't done so yet. I get every PL and CL game live, just not the Europa games.
Geofspurs
how about a laptop. can get you hooked up to a stream or radio commentary. if you don't have access to a vpn you can download a bit of software called tunnel bear and if you set the country to UK you can get radio commentary. otherwise download an ad block software (google adblock) and go to www.frontrow.eu , you can watch any sport from anywhere in good quality, and no pop ups if you have the adblock.
Dublin Hotspur
I can get a live feed (written updates), or maybe find something via the laptop, but given the time here I'll probably pass on it for this one .... especially as I already know the result! lol
Geofspurs
HA HA HA BIIIG words and fighting talk from Ramos. LOL. ……….. http://www.theguardian.com/football/2014/feb/19/dnipro-juande-ramos-tottenham-yevhen-konoplyanka
chrishove123
Geof try this:
http://www.vipboxasia.co/sports/football.html
It worked for me in NZ. Just avoid the download software links. See if it works now with SSN.
jacobslad
Good morning all. Is the game still going ahead? COYS!
James1
Tue Geof, it'll be like 4 in the morning I suppose! For future reference anyway. I can't listen to live coverage from the UK on the radio here, but that tunnel bear lets me listen to BBC5 or talksport when they do commentary. handy to have if your out and about.
Dublin Hotspur
Morning James. It seems it is, nothing to the contrary. they are apparently shooting live rounds at the protesters today, dunno how fans are gonna get to Dnipro if they can't get into the train station in Kiev?
Dublin Hotspur
Good morning Dublin. Yes it's shocking. I checked Sky news on the way to work. They have been using snipers on the rooftops. I hope Spurs fans stay at home. It's not worth the trip. COYS!
James1
Soldado and Eriksen on the plane (CHEESE) http://m.101greatgoals.com/blog/roberto-soldado-posts-instagram-picture-with-christian-eriksen-on-spurs-plane-to-dnipro/
James1
Nice pic James. Team spirit seems better than Le Arse!
jacobslad
Ive always disliked Bayern Munich, even wanted Man Utd to beat them in the CL final! But last night I found myself supporting them and celebrating their goals! I wonder why? ;-)
Pele10
Pele10...because ENIC don't own them? Just a joke...!
jacobslad
Because, Pele, its always great to see Les Arse beaten, and the margin was perfect for Wenger to go to try and win in Munchen, great for our match v arsenal a few days later. any more goals and they would have seen it as a lost cause and put out the reserves to rest the first team for our match, same if goons had won by a margin! COYS!
Dublin Hotspur
Nice pic James, they look happy and ready! doesn't look very easy jet to me! cot to be better than travelling by coach to geordieland! whats all this travelling fuss anyway!! ;-?
Dublin Hotspur
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxf_s2XP6DM

coopsieyid
Don't forget it's 18-00pm kick off uk time.
spu 4 life
Coopsieyid how are you fella. Good to see you back. Where have you been and more importantly how are you and your family? COYS!
James1
Ukraine president 'agrees truce' with opposition

Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych says he has agreed a truce with opposition leaders, after at least 26 people died in protests this week.

A statement on the presidential website said they had agreed to start "negotiations" aimed at ending the bloodshed of the last two days.

They also agreed to try to stabilise "the situation in the state in the interests of social peace".

Earlier today, the president sacked the head of the armed forces.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26267220
coopsieyid
One voice singing in the darkness, was it Del Boy singing in Independence Square, Kiev, latest report says they have gone to get their horses, police have gone to get there's now.
spu 4 life
At least 17 protesters have been killed in renewed clashes with police in central Kiev after a truce agreed on Wednesday broke down, eyewitnesses say. Witnesses reported live rounds, petrol bombs and water cannon at the main protest site, Independence Square. A meeting between EU foreign ministers and President Viktor Yanukovych is now under way, officials say, contradicting earlier reports that the ministers had flown out without seeing him. The EU will discuss sanctions later. Eyewitnesses quoted by international news agencies say they have counted at least 17, and as many as 21 bodies. The BBC's Kevin Bishop, in Kiev, saw five dead bodies in the reception area of the Hotel Ukraine, which all foreign media in the city are using as a base.
spu 4 life
Jacob ... thanks for the link, Mate. I'll see it goes.
Geofspurs
In their return match Arsenal must go hard ... another red card would be nice, but would it carry over to the PL?
Geofspurs
Russian journo on radio this morning saying the railway station is now in the trouble zone so Spurs fans will be unlikely to get anything out of there.

UEFA "monitoring" the situation advising fans to make other arrangements".... Well that's all right then, UEFA!!!
coopsieyid
Seriously i mean how the hell do you make other arrangements, Dnipro is 280 miles away, it's not like you can jump on a bus or get a cab!

It's an absolute disgrace that UEFA have allowed people to be put in this situation!
coopsieyid
2am KO in the future! Can't be as bad as the journey I had to the 1901 Cup Final. lol
Geofspurs
Coopsie ... How you going, Mate? All okay?
Geofspurs
all right coopsieyid,where u been hiding mate?
ghulamville
Jacob ... Should be a 'how' in there somewhere! lol
Geofspurs
This from a mate who lives in Kiev

"the whole thing is just chaos!

http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2014/02/ukraine_the_death_toll_continues_to_rise.html

Things seem to get worse the more photos you see.

Or better/worse - http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...front-police-night-violence-left-26-dead.html

Honestly those pictures make me weep, this is 21st century Europe in one of the most beautiful and friendly cities cities you can go to!

How can this happen, how!

People, good people just laying dead in the streets! I don't know what the real death toll is but 26 is nothing close to it!"...............

Take a look at those links, VERY saddening indeed, some amazing (but not in a good way) pictures in the 2nd link.
coopsieyid
Oh, a WARNING, if you do click that 2nd link, there is a fatal shooting in it, so it's only right that you are WARNED.
coopsieyid
Flights from the uk go to Kiev, trains to Dnipro go from Kiev station, the place is a war zone, but U phuck up say it's ok. What part of ok is that?
spu 4 life
"I just checked Kiev and Dnipro airports arrivals and could only find 1 arrival today from London (Luton) at 1600. So did the fans go yesterday? I'm confused."...........

Whatever they're doing, wherever they are, any supporter who is out there needs to take serious care, or take the better option, turn around & get back home. It's just a game of football, it's NOT worth risking your life for.
coopsieyid
I agree Coopsie ... basic common sense would be to call it off. Nothing is worth the risk involved. Does anyone know how many fans have travelled?
Geofspurs
A bit more from my mate in Kiev -

"Truce is not holding!".......

But he returned to say this......

"Perhaps a correction on this, it wasn't as there was early morning gun battles going on but now it seems the Berkut may have withdrawn completely."..............
coopsieyid
yeah,youre right football pales into insignificance when you see real stuff like this
ghulamville
Trains with "40 carriages of military servicemen" are reported to be moving towards Kiev from Kremenchuk, the Ukrayinska Pravda website reports.
coopsieyid
Kiev mate in response to that news about the train full of military service men........

"Replacing 'Berkut' with military actually might help! People and military don't hate each other like people & Berkut do."......
coopsieyid
And a bit more, "It seems like both sides are accusing each other of just using the 'truce' as a means to regroup and strengthen. Also lots of accusations that there were govt snipers shooting protesters dead. Sadly can see this escalating further"...............
coopsieyid
Hey Coops, all ok I hope. Disgrace they didn't move the match like the valencia game. I know the game is 280miles away from the trouble, but fans still have to go via Kiev. well hope we make it worth their trip, whoever did travel. stay safe lads!
Dublin Hotspur
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/spilno-tv-live

Guy speaks in English and Ukranian

"In most central and eastern European countries it's the law to put winter tyres on your car in winter. So basically every car has 2 sets of tyres (people keep the set not in use at home). I'd guess that people are donating their summer tyres for barricades etc."

Thirteen of the protesters killed in Independence Square on Thursday morning died from single gunshot wounds fired by a sniper, a medic in Independence Square tells Interfax-Ukraine news agency.
coopsieyid
Thanks Geoff, Glad you are thinking of us all. LOL ;-)
chrishove123
To think that, at the moment, the game is still going ahead. Ridiculous if you ask me as anything can happen no matter how far away it is. Games get called off because of a bit of bloody rain causing unsafe playing conditions yet this goes ahead even though the country is having a complete nightmare. It's times like now that "it's only a game" truly should come of age.
coopsieyid
Crazy! It's not just getting there; everyone that travels has to get back too ... twice the risk!
Geofspurs
SSN saying over 200 killed today. Someone has to stop this, and the game. It's a day of mourning aswell so all sport should be cancelled. Anything could happen! Come on uefa, pull the plug.
Dublin Hotspur
From euromaidenpr facebook page (posted late last night)

Attention! The train N 573 has just departed from Kherson railway station. It has 20 coaches and carries 16-25 year old “titushki” (gangsters – ed.). A representative from the Party of Regions controlled the people on the train. Those people (both children and adults) are going to anti-Maidan and they are getting paid. Some children are from orphanages. One person, who works at the railway heard the kids boasting that they can shoot from guns. This train needs to be blocked…
coopsieyid
could we not refuse to play?would this hamper us with uefa in the future?
ghulamville
From the official website - At the UEFA pre-match meeting this morning (Thursday), it was confirmed that tonight's Europa League fixture against FC Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk will go ahead as scheduled – 6pm UK time/8pm local time.
Kong
More - Fans will now be in a mixed area of the stadium, with no segregation. We have been advised that this area contains mainly families.
Kong
There will be a minute's silence beforehand and both teams will wear black armbands.
Kong
this is a full blown revolution,the president is clinging on by his finger-nails it would seem
ghulamville
I'll try to keep those who care, updated. That said, OX, if you'd rather I didn't post about the latest trouble etc, just send me an email, mate. I'm just trying to inform those who wish to be informed, and I'm just sticking to being a copy & paste merchant, and wannabe journalist!!

Cheers guys, here's that goal of the season again, just for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lxf_s2XP6DM
coopsieyid
Not sure on the non segregation part and being in a mixed area, surely that is asking for trouble. It might be a family area but say if this time it isn't.
Kong
$hit, I almost forgot. HAPPY BIRTHDAY to JAMES PETER 'JIMMY' GREAVES. 74 today, have a good one, Jimmy!!
coopsieyid
Woah forgot about that goal mate. That was a sublime goal. SIGGY!
James1
ghulam .... Nobody could argue if Spurs refused to play. How could anyone find an angle to argue it successfully and punish the club. it's a basic safety and civil rights issue.
Geofspurs
The greatest..Happy Birthday Jimmy. Wow my youngest son birthday was yesterday and my eldest son is tomorrow...hat trick of Spurs birthdays! COYS!
James1
I suppose, as the team is already in the town and the town is stable, it's been decided to go ahead ... but that totally discounts the danger to supporters who will not get the same standard of protection afforded to the team.
Geofspurs
Congratulations Jimmy and James!!
Geofspurs
THFC should offer them safe passage. At least order a plane to bring them back safely. To be fair Geof the fans should know of the dangers. It's folly if they decide to travel in the first place. The only people who could stop this is government intervention. Surely the Foreign Office are involved? COYS!
James1
Thanks Geof ;) COYS!
James1
its all on the news. try BBC
tophobunty1882
www.bbc.co.uk
tophobunty1882
Nice reminder Coopsieyid.. almost forgot - but Defoe's goal @AV still the best ….
Highgatespur
James ... you're right, the supporters have been warned, but we supporters are not the most logical of animals when it comes to football ... speaking about myself of course!
Geofspurs
"Hi Brian, is Erik involved tomorrow or Sunday? Thanks. #COYS

Brian Lamela ‏@brianlamela
@TalkingTHFC no! I think in march..

@brianlamela Early or late March?

Brian Lamela ‏@brianlamela
@AlexTHFC_ late



Apparently he is in Rome receiving treatment for his back. I actually think this absence can be beneficial to Lamela. He has time to learn the language, to adapt to the climate and the culture, to come to terms with the way the game is played here and to get to know his team mates better outside of football.

I think history shows that very few foreign imports who have an immediate impact are able to sustain that level of play throughout their careers in the UK and more often than not players who are initially underwhelming end up being quite successful in the long run.

I recall BAE making his debut and being considered to be not good enough, he's out injured for a season and ends up coming back more focused and much more like the player we thought he could become.
coopsieyid
@EuromaidanPR - SOS Riot police #Berkut beating soldiers that refused to fight against Ukrainians at military unit at Vozduhovlotskiy avenue 24
coopsieyid
Oh FFS. Maybe people aren't checking the BBC because, oh I don't know, the BBC aren't providing info from OUR SUPPORTERS, who are out there amongst the horrible $hit that's going on? Maybe people are genuinely concerned for our supporters, so are able to appreciate being kept upto date?

Fancy that, someone who tells people to allow people to say what they want, is telling people where they should go, rather than telling them they can write what they want. Never saw that one coming. What next, telling people not to bring families into conversation, then talking about their mums in the next sentence they type?? Nah, no way would such hypocrisy appear on here!!

Now you run and practice your next hypocritical standpoint, whilst I continue to post HARMLESS updates about the situation in a country where the lives of hundreds/thousands of our supporters could be at risk. Oh and here's another tip for you, one you should be able to recognise, because you constantly say it to everyone else, but constantly ignore it yourself. See the names at the bottom, ignore the posts. Failing that, feck off to Kiev!!

Now you all know where I've been, and will stay. As far away from that Malignant little sheit, as possible.
coopsieyid
Happy Birthdays to James1 household and to jimmy Greaves!!
Highgatespur
More from mate in Kiev, apologies if it's already been stated on the BBC!!! ....

"A plea!

If you are a Spurs fan and remotely connecting and you are in Kiev because you can't get a train or any other reason please just leave for the airport now! If you can't get a flight from the main airport (Borispol) there is also Zhuliany airport that has flights by Wizzair to Luton.

There are running battles happening in areas of Kiev and bodies are littering the streets, you are not safe ANYWHERE!

Please forget the football and leave now!

If you are a Spurs fan in Dnipropetrovsk and you are returning to or coming to Kiev for any reason do not come, get a flight direct from Dnipropetrovsk, whatever it costs you!".............
coopsieyid
Never a truer word said Geofspurs - in my younger years if I had a ticket I'd be there !!! This looks life threatening though, surely spurs / govt will lay on extra planes to fly out from Dnipro...
Highgatespur
Because it's 100% relevant, I'm putting it in here, as well as in the UEFA article....

12:01: About 50 opposition activists are blocking the tracks in front of a train carrying paratroopers from Dnepropetrovsk to Kiev, the Interfax-Ukraine news agency reports, quoting a head of a local branch of the opposition Fatherland party. The 10-carriage train carrying 500 servicemen is being held up at a small station outside Dnepropetrovsk, in eastern Ukraine.

Death toll today is now at 22 people, AP news agency reports.
coopsieyid
Cheers Highgatespur! ;) COYS!
James1
freak
tophobunty1882
The supporters would have flown out yesterday if not Tuesday - just "official" planes no coaches so the Kiev train station may not be needed … a message from a couple of mates out there - don't seem to have the full info yet… the game itself may provide a stage for both sides to galvanise support … crap - modern day Europe ?
Highgatespur
Highgate, it's not in Europe.
tophobunty1882
coppie, I merely post its on the bbc and you launch a two paragraph rant...el freak, you have issues, why shouldn't people watch news on BBC?
tophobunty1882
Topho - When you say it is not in Europe, do you mean the EU?
Kong
Topho..of course its in Europe!
jacobslad
WELL WELL, looks like we are still serious about the EL cup. ………….. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/366254/Tim-Sherwood-eager-to-win-Europa-League-to-guarantee-the-top-job-at-Tottenham?utm_source=ExactTarget&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Daily+Star&utm_content=%%%3dRedirectTo(%40LINK)%3d%%&utm_campaign=DailyStar_DailyNewsletter
chrishove123
Thanks Coopsieyid you are providing the most up to date infer - thanks mate.
Highgatespur
I think tonight's game will be called at the last minute…. shocking state of affairs….
Highgatespur
yes Kong
tophobunty1882
UEFA & Dnipro have confirmed our fans will be located in a safe area used for visiting fans. Tottenham stewards and officials will be with them.
Kong
One report said we could not train on the pitch last night, because it's in such a poor state.
spu 4 life
Thanks for that clarification Topho - was puzzled there for a moment...
Highgatespur
Europe stretches to the borders of Mongolia, to halfway through Turkey, and up to Scandanavia. look at a map!!
Dublin Hotspur
Topho - To me Ukraine are still classed as being in Europe. Would be wrong to go by who is in the EU imo.
Kong
Showing my ignorance here - apologies - does anyone know why this dispute is taking place - I had no knowledge of this until Tuesday ….
Highgatespur
See what the squatters N5 have done with tickets allocation vs Everloan ? They've reduced allocation citing "persistent standing and use of pyrotechnics" and safety … where do they get off BSing like that ?? Mind u they can get away with charging their own £130 for a game !!!! Disgrace to football.
Highgatespur
I post..........................its all on the news. try BBC tophobunty1882................................you respond........................... Oh FFS. Maybe people aren't checking the BBC because, oh I don't know, the BBC aren't providing info from OUR SUPPORTERS, who are out there amongst the horrible $hit that's going on? Maybe people are genuinely concerned for our supporters, so are able to appreciate being kept upto date? Fancy that, someone who tells people to allow people to say what they want, is telling people where they should go, rather than telling them they can write what they want. Never saw that one coming. What next, telling people not to bring families into conversation, then talking about their mums in the next sentence they type?? Nah, no way would such hypocrisy appear on here!! Now you run and practice your next hypocritical standpoint, whilst I continue to post HARMLESS updates about the situation in a country where the lives of hundreds/thousands of our supporters could be at risk. Oh and here's another tip for you, one you should be able to recognise, because you constantly say it to everyone else, but constantly ignore it yourself. See the names at the bottom, ignore the posts. Failing that, feck off to Kiev!! Now you all know where I've been, and will stay. As far away from that Malignant little sheit, as possible. coopsieyid Report Abuse Read more: http://www.spurs.vitalfootball.co.uk/article.asp?a=7516591#ixzz2trib25od
tophobunty1882
12:15: BREAKING: Opposition leader Vitali Klitschko has issued a statement via social networking site YouTube.

He says: "Esteemed Ukrainians Today is the decisive day. Bloodshed continues. The government has resorted to bloody provocations in front of the whole world's eyes.

"Armed thugs have been let loose in the streets to attack people and create an illusion that there is a confrontation between citizens. But these plans are doomed. "
coopsieyid
12:21: In opposition leader Klitschko's recent YouTube video he goes on to say that the following instructions need to happen:

Members of parliament must meet at 1300 GMT to urgently approve decisions on ending the crisis.

President Yanukovych must call an early presidential election. This is the only end to stop violence now.

Every citizen he said should join forces with their neighbours and friends to defend their lives, health and property. He said: "Together, all of us have a duty to stop bloodshed."
coopsieyid
Highgate, the root is a Europe/Russia thing in very simple terms, it's a country split in its loyalties those splits are now hitting the streets.
tophobunty1882
Kong, yes I think you are correct, but I guess the people in Ukraine appear to think they are not really in "Europe" as much as many of them clearly want to be and therein lies the root of the current problem.
tophobunty1882
Is it at all possible to calm down. Is it really necessary to make this in to a regular OTT news report update service. There are countless sources to go to if you need to be informed. Sorry but it's all a bit sensational and pointless...
MAN ON!
That Siggy goal was aawweessoommee! challenging the beast there me thinks.
Dublin Hotspur
Highgate, I have no idea how they get away with it. Les Arse somehow always seem to get a home draw in cup games, and then play this trick every time. talk about creating an even greater advantage. They are a disgrace and should be pulled up on it. Just hope they get drawn away next leg, if Everton don't beat them, which I hope they do BTW, and they get the same treatment. mind you make no difference to them, they are so bleeding quiet.
Dublin Hotspur
Not expecting an easy game for some reason. But lets go out there to smash them in to tiny little pieces. Fantastic win and team spirit up in Newcastle so lets take that and build on it. Safe journey to and from traveling Spurs fans. 0-3 spurs ;-). COYS.
SpursOne2
Topho - You are right and that is reason for all this tension, you have part of Ukraine leaning towards Russia and the other towards the EU and conflict is created. Its a mess.
Kong
Thanks Dublin thought my late hours impacted my knowledge of Europe !!! How is this for goal of the season… " Chiriches picks up the ball from Capoue's ball winning tackle … finds Eriksen in space - takes out three payers by a clever pass to Lamela who goes on an amazing dribble past 4 players and finds Paulinho who exquisitely ghosts past two players and lobs the ball to Chadli who in turns heads down to Soldado; Soldado looks up on the turn and volleys the ball into the net from 12 yards … 2-0 surely no time left… Spurs - Champions of England !!!!
Highgatespur
and Russia provides most of the energy to Ukraine, so its a bit difficult to break away. Maybe the Klitschko's should gang up on Putin, actually that might put a bit of a dent in their records, better not. Putin is silent at the mo because of the winter olympics no doubt, be interesting to see what Russia's stance might be when that's over.
tophobunty1882
Does that mean Norway aren't in Europe? they are not in the EU?
Dublin Hotspur
be careful ManOn.
tophobunty1882
Mind you Ukraine have an ex boxer as oppo leader. says a lot!
Dublin Hotspur
The Klitschko's v Putin, now that would be a fight.
Kong
Highgate, I just closed my eyes after reading that and pictured it in my mind… every move, shimmy and shot!!! that would be amazing and includes all my Faves! thank you
Dublin Hotspur
Thanks topho but why the silence - if people knew about surely someone should've intervened about the game - TFG calmness reported right this moment….
Highgatespur
Mate in Kiev just said this......

"Emergency meeting of Parliament at 3pm, so just starting! Only hope left is maybe for Yanukovich to call election."...........
coopsieyid
Not sure how bad it is out side of Kiev, but Kiev to Dnipropetrovsk its about the same as London to the Lake District...

Bizarrely, according to buddy in Kiev, Dnipropetrovsk is the only City in The Ukraine that doesn't appear to have any problems, SO FAR!!
coopsieyid
lord and now coopsie tells us they must drive through or past birmingham to get there...how bad can this get? sorry all brummies...errr no i'm not.
tophobunty1882
"Lyon are paying in Odesa, and yesterday there was serious fighting between police and Odesa ultras, and they are going to let them all mass together in a football stadium this evening! Truly unbelievable!"............
coopsieyid
I'm also wondering how many actual police are going to be available to 'police' tonight's match. I have a horrible feeling, and I REALLY hope I'm wrong, that those 'Ultras' could well see the unrest as a perfect situation for them to be active in football hooliganism, with the perfect 'cover' of the violence within the country. VERY worrying situation for 'football people' who are there to try & enjoy a game of football.
coopsieyid
This game SHOULD still be called off.

To let 20,000+ people gather in one place can't be the right thing to do, it will just take one incident for carnage to ensue.
coopsieyid
Now, now, lads ... there's enough fighting going around without bringing it on here! Anyone interested in talking about the game which appears, at this stage, to be on?!
Geofspurs
Thanks topho and Coopsie - much more informed now… I truly value this line of info… much better than the usual sources. Thanks
Highgatespur
It's amazing really through this discussion I think we are all realising we have witnessed a number of worldy goals this year. I'd put the Beast goal above Siggy, two reasons - the opposition and the Beast beat a couple of players before he shot !
Highgatespur
I asked buddy in Kiev if we should be concerned about the 'ultras' taking advantage of the civil unrest, and using it as a perfect platform to target our supporters. This was his response to me.......

I don't think this will happen!

But, i have no idea who dnipro ultras and all ultras here are politically motivated favour!

I don't want to think about this but if they are pro govt & Russia in anyway then it may not be best to be European right now!

My gut feeling is that they will be anti govt and pro European, but again is it worth the risk? No it isn't!"....................
coopsieyid
SpursOne2 - I think their minds might be elsewhere… Hope there are no incidents to complicate matters…
Highgatespur
Dublin thanks - enjoyed writing it - about the famous 7 - wouldn't it be great? Come you Spurs make our dreams a reality !!! Been waiting for soooooooooooooo long….
Highgatespur
Figured I'd share this post, it made me chuckle.....

"Gotta love our away support. Travelling into the middle of a war zone to watch what is likely to be a second-string Spurs side. Can't say I'd risk my life to watch Kyle Naughton being $hit."............

He makes a damn fine point, lol
coopsieyid
Posted 1 minute ago by Kiev mate....

"Just confirmed at least 7 people shot dead in Kiev in the last few hours, but is actually much higher! Supermarkets and food shops shutting!"..........
coopsieyid
Geof.....i second and third that, I would defo use Siggy as a human shield tonight, whoops got sidetracked, what was a tough game is surely much tougher because of all the off field stuff.
tophobunty1882
This is interesting, though doesn't exactly clear up any concerns I/We have about the 'Ultras'........

"I read an article yesterday about the ultras' stance on this crisis.

As a general rule, ultras in Ukraine tend to be very right wing. Most of them - and certainly Dnipro and other eastern clubs - are pro Russia rather than pro EU. In that sense, at least, they are aligned with the government.

However, many of them have expressed an unlikely solidarity with the protestors. Not because they share their desire for greater ties with the EU. But rather because they are disgusted by the government's use of titushka (gangs of street thugs paid by the government to agitate and to attack protestors and civilians alike) against fellow Ukrainians. In various incidents, they have come out in numbers to defend the protestors against titushka.

How that is likely to play out before, during and after an actual game, though, I have no idea."............
coopsieyid
I'm learning lots whilst getting this info..

"The Balkans war started at a football match!"

"El Salvador and Honduras went to war over a football match!".....

I'm waiting for responses as to who was playing those games.
coopsieyid
I really don't care about the result, just want everybody back home safe and sound. Keep safe lads and lassies. COYS
longtimespur
Mate in Kiev, in response to the guy who said he'd read an article about the Ultras being pro government.....

"It's an absolute fact and supporting what you say that there were violent clashes in early January between Dnipro ultras & Titushki.".......

So we basically NEED these 'Titushki' people to stay the feck away from Dnipropetrovsk.
coopsieyid
Ah, this was the war between El Salvador & Honduras..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_War
coopsieyid
WW3 now.
tophobunty1882
And i got my response about The Balkan War, too....

"Dinamo Zagreb vs red star Belgrade- there is footage on youtube of when the players were literally kicking each other and fighting. It wasn't the sole reason it started but was more the result of all the tensions that had been building up kicking off in such a high profile way."........
coopsieyid
http://www.channel4.com/news/articles/sports/political+football+zvonimir+boban/1205847.html
coopsieyid
Brilliant Coopsie - just about says what it means to us … "We will follow the Tottenham over land an sea …. "
Highgatespur
Topho a good call - didn't think he was fully fit?
Highgatespur
Bridges closed between East Bank & West Bank in Kiev, river now completely splitting the city in half!

I'm waiting to get an answer as to how this will affect our game & the safety of our supporters.
coopsieyid
MAN ON! Totally agree with you on that one about the constant reporting on here about the situation. I want to see a football forum not a news desk. If any one wants to find out what is happening there is this new fangled thing called the world wide interwebby thing which, I am told, lets you see news and stuff from all over the world and also has minute by minute updates. Hmm all sounds pretty easy to me. So let's get back to the football please. Nothing we can do or say is going to change the situation out there or make things any easier for the supporters out there. It is ALL in the papers. Thanks, but no thanks on here, and YES I do want everyone back safely.
chrishove123
Got a response to my "What affect does this have on our game/the safety of our supporters?" question.........

"None! Just an attempt to stop people moving round the city, there is now no public transport running at all!"...............

Outstanding, so we now have supporters out there who have no public transport to utilise.
coopsieyid
Three border crossings to Poland have also been closed.
coopsieyid
This was a pleasant post to read........

"A colleague of mine's husband left on Tuesday night to get there early enough. I've told her to keep in regular contact as she just lets him do his thing without many calls/texts back and forth usually. Apparently he's aware of the problems going on but isn't too concerned because of the distance to Kiev.".............

Hopefully it stays that way.
coopsieyid
Done some scouting on some forums, this popped up from an 'ultra page' (http://vk.com/ultras83) WARNING: There is some graphical photography and videos on the page. (Translated by google translator)

Ultras Dnepr decided baykotirovanii tonight's game our team in the Europa League in connection with what is happening in the country.

As you know just today we were missing about two dozen of our countrymen with you.

We believe that on this day, a day of mourning, there is no place recreational activities. If you do decide to go to the podium, we urge everyone to be very careful today not conducted on provocation unfamiliar to you people not to walk alone in the city at this time of danger. The city observed mass provocateurs and titushek, be prepared . mourn the dead..........

Looks like they expect people who potentially can cause problems to be in and around the stadium.
coopsieyid
BBC:Councillors in Ukraine's western Transcarpathia Region have voted to declare the region "free of Yanukovych rule".

Interior Minister Zakharchenko issues statement blaming unrest "solely on opposition leaders and radicals".
coopsieyid
Another now...

Ivano-Frankivsk regional council in western Ukraine passes a vote of no-confidence in President Yanukovych designating him an "illegitimate head of state", the UNIAN news agency reports.
coopsieyid
From Reuters:

Yanukovich, who replaced the head of the armed forces, had denounced the bloodshed in central Kiev as an attempted coup. His security service said it had launched a nationwide "anti-terrorist operation" after arms and ammunition dumps were looted.
coopsieyid
Has Kate Adie turned up yet, if she does we are really in the shi7, Kwik Fit has closed for the day and the Vodka tasting scheduled for this afternoon, has been canceled
spu 4 life
CNN Breaking News @cnnbrk 1m - Protesters' medical chief: About 100 killed in today's Ukraine clashes; no govt. confirmation. http://cnn.it/NdZBHW

Getting worse and worse by the minute.
coopsieyid
Sad words from buddy in Kiev......

"It is now war, describe it as you want but war has broken out!

I've just been to the bar for a drink, girls in there that i see most days, very lovely nice girls crying their eyes out!

It's heartbreaking!".................

:-(
coopsieyid
The only dead people are russian, so long may it stay that way, perhaps someone forgot to pay the russian mafia, Am I concerned Yes, but only for spurs players, fans and admin staff, as for the rest of it phuck em, How did the Bolshoi Ballet get it's name, because the russians I have come across, are bolshy ignorant ba$tards
spu 4 life
I've been watching Sky/BBC news. Depressing as usual. Nothing about Spurs. No team news, nothing.
MAN ON!
British Gas have reported a dip in profits. Poor sods!
MAN ON!
I only know of the problems in the Ukraine (kiev) because we have a football game in that country, so the concern is for spurs players, fans and admin staff. If this first leg was in any other country, I like the rest of you (maybe) would read the headline and turn the page, watch the news and wait for the next item.
spu 4 life
British Gas need to leave the main on a blow up another street, that will increase profits. What's the difference between the Ira and BGas, the Ira give you a warning.
spu 4 life
Is that Gas Main News? MAN ON
spu 4 life
3 hours to kick off. If they kick off? Already kicked off in Kiev apparently............ The wild bee population is under serious threat, allegedly... Think I'll catch up on Eastenders. BBC iPlayer is a Godsend.
MAN ON!
Former Spurs legend, Serhiy Rebrov is the assistant coach for Dynamo Kyiv reserves. I didn't know that!
MAN ON!
I look forward to a peaceful and democratic outcome. 2-2! COYS!
MAN ON!
If the game's going ahead what's the team folks?
Highgatespur
Fox News ‏@FoxNews - #BREAKING: #Russia reportedly sending mediators to #Ukraine as truce falls apart http://fxn.ws/1fjQpfP .........

Yeah big help, Putin. Not like you're pro Yanukovich or anything!
coopsieyid
On a positive note, the EU diplomats have finished talks. On a VERY negative note, the Kremlin is saying the snipers are "100% a lie." They are also calling it a "coup d'etat", which is nearly the opposite of a civilian overthrow.
coopsieyid
Man On I see your plea fell on deaf ears, steroids must be kicking in now, Coopsie has declared war and is on fire, someone tell the BBC and Spu4 can you let Kate Ade know, she is at sainsbury in letchfield totally oblivious, she is no longer number 1.
tophobunty1882
"gomez needs to go and play,his been sitting on his backside doing nothing for so long and earning shatloads.get some pride man," wrote ghulamville.


Gomes hasn't been sitting by choice, but because he hasn't been selected to play by the last couple of managers. Are you saying that you think it's been his choice not to play? Seems quite unlikely.

Falstaff the Fool
Chris, we have been editorally hijacked, football is lost in the haze fest................and now the borders to Poland are closed? why? there are no poles home....boom boom....
tophobunty1882
Gomez has joined in the war Falstaff? Is he a general?
tophobunty1882
breaking news from WONews Channel. Putin has instructed that all fake snow blowing machines from Sochi to be deployed in Kiev to make it look like Christmas in an attempt to cool things down. Oh sorry just realised that is Wa)nkOff News a spoof wind up fake news channel.
tophobunty1882
Football related:

Supporters of FC Dnipro say they will boycott tonight's Europa League game against Tottenham Hotspur in the eastern Ukrainian city of Dnipropetrovsk. A representative of the Dnipro fan movement, Yevhen Pereverzev, told local website 34.ua: "We can't be watching football when something like this is going on in our country, when people are getting killed." - via BBC Monitoring
coopsieyid
spu4, can you tell a few of your jokes to lighten the load a little.
tophobunty1882
Oh well, if you can't beat them, join them. …….. North and South Koreans in poignant reunions after decades of separation South Koreans meet relatives at the North's Kumgang Mountain resort, with a second wave of reunions to start on Sunday. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/20/north-south-koreans-relatives-separated-decades-reunions
chrishove123
the perfect vehicle for PR a football game going on in a country on the brink of civil war with the worlds media, plus coopsie all over it, just what some nutter or nutters would love to exploit, why oh why are they taking the risks I just dont understand....anyway I hope siggy plays.
tophobunty1882
Or how about ………. My neighbour can hear me having sex My bedroom shares a party wall with my neighbour's bedroom, and when I start having sex, they make off-putting noises in protest. What can I do? ………………….. http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/feb/17/my-neighbour-hear-me-having-sex
chrishove123
Spurs players have been watching the news as unfolds in kiev, Tim turned to Bob Soldado, hear that shots being fired, any chance you can fire some later.
spu 4 life
Did TS tell him they had to hit the Bullseye?
chrishove123
Dnipro are favourites to win with a lot of the bookies. I'm surprised. One thing that could be in our favour is the fact that they've not played competitively since December. 2 hours until kick off.
MAN ON!
What do you call a Russian with Tourette's Syndrome? A: Yukanol ****ov.
spu 4 life
Bobby will score tonight. It was on the news.
MAN ON!
Brad will save a penalty. Soldado will score 2. Andros will have at least 3 shots on target. Eriksen will score a wonder free kick from 25 yards. Chadli will play a blinder, and we will all live happily ever-after....
MAN ON!
good start Spu4 keep em coming and a great repost Manon...if its on the news tonight it will be cut and paste here later...
tophobunty1882
in never never land !!!
spu 4 life
Ukrainian protestors have toppled a statue of Lenin and attacked it with hammers.......... Shame, he was my favourite Spur - I would've gone for the Rebrov one...
MAN ON!
Ukraine announced plans to open Chernobyl, their nuclear disaster site, to tourists.......They say it's just like Disneyland, except the 6-foot mouse is real.
MAN ON!
Manon . Chadli's been blind all season until he regained his sight last weekend.
tophobunty1882
Soldado to at least get a couple - Andros to hit at least two protesters with his shots - in Kiev and eriksen with such a performance we will claiming that we'll win the league...
Highgatespur
good one Manon, big smile....got to dash out sadly, hope the dont get the nukes cut and pasted before I get back...Highgate classic..........no highgate...we won the war...and it will be reported by our very own Kate Ade
tophobunty1882
******** hell, we have supporters close to where this is happening

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0DxkDiAcSF8

FFS, just get out people, turn around & go home!! Stay safe brother & sister Yiddos
coopsieyid
i'm sure the safest place for our supporters will be in the Dnipro stadium. COYS and stay safe......
MAN ON!
Curling's a funny old game, init. It's like Lawn Bowls on ice. The Canadian ladies cleaned up.
MAN ON!
Amazing - we were right but it's a bit close to the ko to be there now ? I just wouldn't fancy the start of the trip home…. COYMS!!!
Highgatespur
15 min and I'm off home. What a drag its been today at work. Can't wait to put my feet up and watch hopefully a game of football. COYS!
James1
Team tonight - Friedel; Naughton, Dawson, Vertonghen, Rose; Bentaleb, Capoue, Paulinho; Chadli, Soldado, Townsend
Kong
Lois Van Gall siad ...

Van Gaal told the Daily Mail: "I am mostly interested in England because I have been a coach in Spain, Germany, in the Netherlands, so I think England is the next step in my career.
"Spurs? It could be another club - it depends on the vacancies, because Spurs was already with me.
"I prefer to be focused on this World Cup and now there's another coach (at Spurs), so as coach you cannot say I go to that club or that club, it depends on circumstances and the vacancies."
Fanny adams
Subs - Archer, Fryers, Veljkovic, Eriksen, McEvoy, Onomah, Kane
Kong
looking more like a 4-3-3 and perhaps more the shape to come as our default formation
oxfordspur
Kong is that the official line up? COYS!
James1
Yes from the official twitter site.
Kong
Is townsend on the right or left, chadli? Looks like a 4-3-3. not bad for a B team!! eh lads, some squad!
Dublin Hotspur
Sorry James1, should have said that in the line up.
Kong
Not a bad line up considering the amount of players that didn't travel.
Kong
Eriksen only senior on bench. hmmmm. hope we don't need too many subs. unless TS sees us being 4-0 up at half time and then have a change of guard!
Dublin Hotspur
I would however like to see McEvoy get some time, a good Irish prospect!
Dublin Hotspur
British girls got Bronze by beating the Swiss at Curling.
WTF is hairstyling doing in the Winter Olympics?
Fanny adams
Is Fryers injured or not just fancied even to be on the bench.
Kong
1 hour..... Up the Spurs!
MAN ON!
Kong, those sleepless nights. he is on the bench. make sure her majesty in in white tonight!!
Dublin Hotspur
Fanny, to be fair if curling is in the olympics so should snooker and darts be in the main olympics! at least they are interesting to watch.
Dublin Hotspur
Don't know about the team (esp Rose) but COYMS!!!!!!! Great squad …
Highgatespur
Friedel in goal?
haven`t the Ukraines already torn down one statue today already?Lenin
Fanny adams
Thanks Dublin, my bad, luckily I have not done much work today to create a mess :). I post the subs and still don't spot Fryers. She will be in all white, me cheering and her crying as usual.
Kong
Yeah, not sure why Lloris wouldn't play this one and if we win by a margin Brad could have played next week. not like he's running around all game… hehe
Dublin Hotspur
Good man Kong, if she cries normally, make sure she cries tonight. if she sleeps, pinch her! LOL
Dublin Hotspur
Don't worry Dublin as long as we keep winning then the crying continues, just don't tell the wife why she is crying as I have told her it is wind and not me keeping her awake :).
Kong
COYS! 6-2
Dublin Hotspur
15 minutes to coverage……..
Dublin Hotspur
Our Timmy it seems is definitely on a learning curve: next module please ….
Highgatespur
next module… how not to talk about the opposition being the best team in the world.
Dublin Hotspur
Telegraph's Roland Oliphant tweets: Current situation: quiet. Govt forces presumably regrouping around parliament. Protesters control all ground lost since Tuesday. Protesters may have the square back now??

16:29: Maryan, Kiev, emails: Kiev is in full panic mode. No cash in ATMs. Huge lines for gas and food. Taxi fares rise threefold.
coopsieyid
Cheers Kong ;) COYS!
James1
The times has said that only about 100 are believed to actually have gone. Can't link as it's behind a paywall. This is going to be played in a pretty empty stadium, in my opinion. It'll be akin to a training match.
coopsieyid
"Snipers (russian?) have headquorters in Cabinet of Ministers. 10-12 soldiers. Black uniform. Bulletproof jackets. They have lived here for 3 weeks. They have sniper rifles, same glasses, same back packs. Many times they were out into city. Tomorrow 8.45 they left the area with rifles. (Snipers begun shoot protesters at 9 oclock). Sniper rifles can shoot up to 2000 metres. Photos."

http://censor.net.ua/photo_news/271...zdelenie_sbu_alfa_zerkalo_nedeli_fotoreportaj
coopsieyid
coopsieyid-you should be foreign affairs correspondent for bbc/sky
ghulamville
Fanny....you wait to you see the Brazilian's at the World cup. Now that's what i call hair styling. MMmmmmMMMM....I love Brazilian's.
Cider spurs
EU foreign ministers have agreed to move ahead with IMPOSING SANCTIONS, including visa bans and asset freezes on those responsible for the violence in Ukraine, Italian Foreign Minister Emma Bonino has confirmed. "The decision is to proceed very rapidly, in the next hours, to a visa ban and asset freeze on those who have committed the violence," she said.

Yanukovych's two sons have just flown out of Ukraine.
coopsieyid
No more talks with President Yanukovych, says his jailed arch-rival and former prime minister Yulia Tymoshenko in a statement published on her party's website.

"I demand that the opposition never sit down at the negotiating table with Yanukovych. Any of us who breaks this taboo will become Yanukovych's accomplice in killing innocent people."
coopsieyid
Nah not a chance - he'd then have to stay stumtph!!! No offence coopsieyid you have done a grand job - learnt a lot about the old Russia ….
Highgatespur
Football's on the tele now...... Game on! Come On You Lilywhites! 7 out of 7?
MAN ON!
Chrishove.....Answer to your "neighbours making off-putting noises to affect the sex, what can i do?".....Invite em' round and have a Foursome.
Cider spurs
Let`s hope Timmy boy does better in this cup.
Completely made a mess of the domestic ones.

With Friedel in goal a clean sheet is out of the question.2-0 to Ramos i`d say
Fanny adams
Archer, Fryers, Veljkovic, Eriksen, McEvoy, Onomah, Kane = One heck of a young bench. Hope McEvoy gets a run out tonight in the second half. Look forward to seeing these U21 boys as Sherwood knows them very well.
coopsieyid
Read my mind Dublin - I was going to say how not to talk to the press like his mentor! COYMS! Coopsieyid - thought as much - this is one aspect of EC I hate - empty stadiums and lack of atmosphere!! CIDER !!!!! Control yourself young man - u love a Brazilian do you ??? Hmmmm Right ITV4 on - COYMS!!!!!
Highgatespur
WHY ARE ITV 4 TALKING ABOUT THE SWANSEA GAME WHEN WE KICK OFF IN 12 MINUTES AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT HAS GONE ON IN UKRAINE!!!WHY???
Dublin Hotspur
I would not play Vertonghen, Rose, Paulinho or Bentaleb on that pitch. Oh well...
coopsieyid
Brad's done alright for us up to now. Has he not?
MAN ON!
Apologies for Caps lock, looks like i was really angry. well i am a bit, but not enough to require full caps!
Dublin Hotspur
And now we must pray for the anus of Naughton, which will probably be raped by Konoplyanka...
coopsieyid
I think Cider is feeling somewhat frisky ….
Highgatespur
Dublin...I eluded to this very thing the other day when we kicked of first at the Weekend but all we got was United and their match which followed later. That was Sky on that occasion. Annoying to say the least.
Cider spurs
This is pretty cool, Dnipro posted this video of our training yesterday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DSDep4z64sk
coopsieyid
Cider, Yup once again I agree with you… and with those plonkers!!!
Highgatespur
Vertonghen Rose Paulinho and Benteleb who start today, will almost certainly starton Sunday, so I'd expect 3 of the 4 to be subbed off?
coopsieyid
If Onomah comes off the bench, he will be the second youngest player in our history. He is four days older than John Bostock was when making his debut against Dinamo Zagreb.
coopsieyid
Merely stating my preference regarding hairstyles lads, at no time would i wish a Brazilian for myself, Fanny + curls + hairstyles = Brazilians. Adams started it!. ;-)
Cider spurs
100 mad cap yiddos at the game… COYMS!!!
Highgatespur
rafael benitez,a very dignified bloke.i like him
ghulamville
SlowSportsNews: Tottenham XI to face Milan

Gomes, Gallas, Dawson, Corluka, Assou-Ekotto, Van der Vaart, Palacios, Sandro, Lennon, Pienaar, Crouch

coopsieyid
First chance on goal tonight…. Townsend from 40 yards, its meant to be a cross but is on target, eludes the defence, chadli ducks to avoid contact, keeper goes wrong way, ball hits the ground six inches short of the goal line and stops dead, plugged. goal line scrap, 30 seconds later the ball has vanished underground and half of both teams are waist deep in mud. game abandoned!
Dublin Hotspur
And then the women come out and the mud wrestling begins. Bonus!.
Cider spurs
Its not Capoooh lads, its Capoue (capou-ay) He's French, do the research. its worse than BT sport!!
Dublin Hotspur
why does gordon strachan always feel compelled to be a wise crack
ghulamville
BBC Live Page: reports that some of the top officials and their families have been leaving Kiev. Journalist Hanna Babynets from independent Hromadske TV reported this from Kiev's Zhulyany Airport: "Three planes have taken off in the past five minutes. It's very likely that they are carrying cash: suitcases have been unloaded under guard from armoured vans usually used to transport cash... scheduled flights have been suspended, the airport administration says."

Several hours ago a private plane from Kyiv was not allowed to land in Vienna. #Ukraine #EuroMaidan

https://twitter.com/EuroMaidanEN/status/436558142202454016

If DPA report true about EU FMs agreeing to asset freeze & travel bans, will #UK act quick enough to nail #Akhmetov with his jet in the air?

https://twitter.com/mel_huang/status/436558803136675841
coopsieyid
Someone mentioned not liking this comp because of empty stadia and no atmosphere… I think in this case its because of the conflict to be fair!! our 100 brave travelling fans will sing the place down!! COYS!
Dublin Hotspur
Dublin..Are you Australian Sport?.
Cider spurs
Dnipro haven't played in 2 months, how is the pitch so bloody bad?
coopsieyid
LOL Cider, have been accused of it once or twice!
Dublin Hotspur
LOL Cider, have been accused of it once or twice!
Dublin Hotspur
damned phone. sorry double again. this kulaplayankyau (or whatever) really is quality, who had him scouted, Cider? Coops? would be great for us!
Dublin Hotspur
usual slow start
Dublin Hotspur
class play again chadders
Dublin Hotspur
Lloris has finally got Friedel to sweep!
Durbanspur
stop waiting for the ball to get to you Andros,
Dublin Hotspur
That was great description Dublin … feeding into heat of Cider? The no atmosphere bit - it's been a feature of the EL games - understandable tonight though - the crowd's getting louder… Rose's not going to last long methinks...
Highgatespur
*****, they missed a sitter - one on one with Friedel and he fluffed it!
Durbanspur
well done Brad !!!
Highgatespur
Bentaleb, nearly punished 3 times by him losing the ball. Danny Rose, WTF are you doing??, Townsend, usual predictable self. come on lads sort it out!
Dublin Hotspur
Getting closer - we seem to be struggling with the pitch a bit!
Durbanspur
Chadli !!!! Composure ???
Highgatespur
I hope TS brought his hairdryer! for halftime!
Dublin Hotspur
Can see why TS left Capoue out for so long. Can't remember the last time I saw anyone play as bad as he is tonight.
flipper
Our passing both long and short is really poor. One of the basics they need to practice. Brad doing well
Big Ron
Predictable kick from Townsend…..
Highgatespur
capoue is gone
ghulamville
Hello Lads. Any links ??
AlexSpur
What's this with big punts up the pitch to nobody?
Big Ron
www.frontrow.eu.
Dublin Hotspur
wow our back line pushes up and they r through
ghulamville
I want to rate Townsend, but I just don't, certainly offers nothing on the right. switch him or sub him
Dublin Hotspur
Pretty mundane so far but ….
Highgatespur
Spared at last it's half time, what a pile of shi7 this is.
spu 4 life
i thought we stopped playing the line since avb left
ghulamville
How many more first halves like this do we have to endure. TS needs to bully this lot into finally believing that a game is two halves and lasts 90 minutes. We seem to think game after game, that you have a 45 minute rest period, followed by 45 minutes of effort. It is happening almost every game.
Frank
I'm bored. Think I'll catch up on some news....
MAN ON!
HIGH LINE
ghulamville
Don't score your upset the locals, was that plan A? Our players are to far in front of the man on the ball, just spent the last two day watching Barca & Bayern play passing football, because they have someone to pass it to, what do we have Dawson as playmaker.
spu 4 life
Waiting for the day we actually sign quality wingers! The one we have is injured.
Jables
Actually, it's not that bad a game is it? Lot's of chances.
MAN ON!
I wonder which subs he will use. Hopefully Fryers on for Rose who must have a sore toe. Will he go for a playmaker in Eriksen or one of the young ones?
Big Ron
3-1 to Spurs. No worries.
MAN ON!
Friedel is having a good game. Coming off his line, looks like what he said about both of them learning from each other is bearing fruit.
chrishove123
Fairly usual first half for us, nervy, slow, poor passing…. now we should go out and win. these boys bar their left winger, are no better than swansea or palace really, same kind of first half as this games too… TIM! IF YOU CAN HEAR ME, cos i'm really shouting to you…. sort this out. we have some class players out there, back line firmed up. MF passing sorted… get Townsend off or with to the left, and win the game 3-0
Dublin Hotspur
And the good one is playing for our opponents!
Durbanspur
seriously though, if we did get top 4, we will get destroyed in the CL, this is our level this year, love to win the trophy and we know we can!!
Dublin Hotspur
Where's Capoue gone ghulamville? Same place as Bentaleb?
Highgatespur
Boy! Townsend needs to buck up - and far too selfish as well!
Durbanspur
Dublin Dublin - relax man!!! Our Timmy will pull us through…..
Highgatespur
great ref to be fair
Dublin Hotspur
I know Highgate. i'm calm. Oh god how did robbie miss???
Dublin Hotspur
Soldado what a waste
Big Ron
I think Robbie has the ENIC curse upon him, the hoodoo and the hex! Poor fella, needs something to go in for him!
Dublin Hotspur
Oh no Soldado !!!!! That is NOT we want nor expecting …. oh dear !!!
Highgatespur
Take Soldado off Tooooo lazy
Big Ron
Kyle N having a good game!!
Dublin Hotspur
Naughton ?! How ? COYS!!!!
Highgatespur
Soldado ain't lazy…. come on Andros don't keep shooting with feeble shots!
Highgatespur
bale mark two and kane, take off soldado and androsssssss inamessi
spu 4 life
Yup come on Erik !!!!
Highgatespur
Are you watching Erik, Robbie ?
Highgatespur
Soldado cannot play football
Cape Town Spurs
That no. 10 - good ain't he ? Nice approach play now … penalty !!! Gotta say love Soldado's touches outside the box!!! Nice attempt...
Highgatespur
Soldado would struggle to put the ball in th enet if it had a magnet on it. sad. for us & him but the guy is pants
Cape Town Spurs
Soldado having a good game, just needs his shooting boots back. I think negredo stole them on the plane in the summer! Friedel having the game of his life!!!! these officials haven't got much wrong. could teach the EPL boys a thing or two! that Kavplyankahya is pure quality!
Dublin Hotspur
Friedel is my MOM.
Durbanspur
Shame Soldado's shot took the deflection, kind of goal that would have gone a hell of a way to restoring confidence. On a side note, Friedel, to be without 1st team football so long at his age and produce a performance like he is tonight...unbelievable.
flipper
TF for bruce willis in goal
spu 4 life
i know the pitch is a ditch but this is diabolical
Cape Town Spurs
konoplyanka class act
ghulamville
That's why the 'how?' Dublin… Come on Spurs! Thought Rose was a winger before….. oh crap ….
Highgatespur
Penalty for them
Durbanspur
That challenge was as much outside the box as Paulis was!
Dublin Hotspur
all started from caoupe loseing the ball from there area
123spurs
i wouls sack sherwood before he leaves the ground
Cape Town Spurs
and I'd give soldado away with three tokens in a froestees packet
Cape Town Spurs
we look about as interested as a vegetarian at a BBQ.
spu 4 life
just got back in. how many did Soldado get?
tophobunty1882
this team are a joke and soldado up there with rebrov & bent, only worse x 10
Cape Town Spurs
oh its still going and chadli misses from 2 yards....whats it been like?
tophobunty1882
Come on Kane - that was close!!!!
Highgatespur
how anyone can like this comp is beyond me, this pitch is what i use to play on at school and the stadium is half full at the very best....this is the wooden spoon
tophobunty1882
if any supporter wasted their time & money to watch this pathetic display they deserve a refund and a season ticket by way of an apology
Cape Town Spurs
UEFA Directive sent to us was, do not win tonight your start a riot.
spu 4 life
could and should have been more
ghulamville
what an embarrassment. sack sherwood now and sack dawson too... both nice guys but out of their depth
Cape Town Spurs
Oops.
chrishove123
well played Brad. Man of the Match.
chrishove123
Happy with the score as it could have been more to them, we have been consistently poor in this competition, never seem to play well. Sherwood has got a 100% record in cups! played 3 lost 3, the 2nd leg will be good.
Kong
Jermaine Defoe, LOSER Levy, sold the Yido!!!
Pele10
topho, that really does sum it up.
spu 4 life
Ah well - MoM Brad by a mile….. well done Spurs fans on a difficult trip - here's to all getting back safely…. COYMS …. Thursday night surely we'll do the business! I am determined not to get negative - roll on Sunday….
Highgatespur
Hear hear.
MAN ON!
Here here...
MAN ON!
I honestly really did fall asleep about fifteen minutes into the second half and woke up at about 88 minutes. Oh well, there is still top four.
chrishove123
played like a eunuch in a harem. not much desire to stick it in for a score.
Falstaff the Fool
Brad MOTM! can't say anyone else played well at all! funny how people care now about the result, half the folks on here want us out of the comp to focus on top 4. well how would we cope in CL playing like that???? , we should have sent a stronger team out for the away leg and relax at home, now we have to chase it.
Dublin Hotspur
These are the types of games that the likes of Chadli, Soldado and Capoue can really stake their claim to be certain starters, yet none of them did. I will say for soldado he has some nice touches, but his body language compred to when he played for valencia is totally different, mind you he needs service and that was lacking. Chadli very disappointing so far this season!
spurfect one
As Bill Shankly always said, play away first in europe if we lose 1-0 that is a good result. Now everyone get home safe.
spu 4 life
I hope its not Bye bye Turin and hello stub hub for the arsenal game instead!!!!!
Dublin Hotspur
just seen the pen for first time, did you all notice the el Donkey Dawson on the half way line rush in at .00005 miles per hour and miss his tackle and get totally shafted? thnak god he wont play sunday on a propa pitch
tophobunty1882
BF was much better in the goal than we had a right to expect. MOTM for Spurs., but there were some fairly poor performances in the white jerseys tonight. Soldado showed some real skill in putting the ball over the net from such a close angle. Hard to replicate that one. Of course, it's not the sort of skill we want him to be showing.
Falstaff the Fool
We play like a school team. No discipline, no intelligence, no shape with the ball, no shape without the ball, no tempo, no zip, no ability to play quick pacey passes into space, no ability to turn defenders, no ability to get in behind teams, no ability to score from 2 yards. We are quite simply very, very poor. Without pace you cannot be a threat in top level football. We have no pace either in our feet or in our minds. We are slow, ponderous and lethargic. I'm sorry but we won't make top 4 and we won't win the Europa League. We have no spark on the pitch, no leadership on the pitch and no leadership from the bench either. We have a long way to go to improve. Newcastle was obviously an exception. Tonight was the norm.
SpuriousLife
2 open goals missed by us. Not good at all. Glad Brad had a great game seeing as no one else did. Soldado what does he have to do to score?
chrishove123
I wouldn't say there was no desire.
MAN ON!
Very poor. Pitch was awful should not be allowed imo. Professional footballers playing on a pitch like that but no excuses there was only brad who played consistently well. I have said this before I am fed up of seeing Soldado duck out of challenges. Yes he did one or two pretty passes and lay off but he is a whimp, he jumps out of the way of the ball in challenges and he offers nothing, kane in the few minutes he was on looked more hungry, more confident, please put him out of his misery and send him home. Worse of it because Levy will not get his money back we will be stuck with him and he will take up a squad place for the next two seasons and we will be short in strikers because of it.

No one earned their wage tonight other than Brad although I will not be harsh on Paulinho as he tried at times, patchy but he is still getting fitness back. Naughton did ok at times ut to be honest overall it was poor and the way we are going Tim will make it three out of three cup exits.
WorldPeace
If anyone is stopping off in kiev, can you get me 4 tyres for my car?
spu 4 life
Terrible pitch, terrible performance and didn't ;earn anything we didn't already know which is that defensively we are shocking, Rose might make a good left-winger option but as a full-back never, Townsend still has no brains and Soldado has a curse on him from the goal-scoring point of view. It was not a night for controlled passing footbal given the state of the pitch and Bentaleb in particular kept giving the ball away with no cover behind him. Cannot see us beating them at the Lane given their high-energy, pressing, speedy break style of football but at least we will be able to concentrate on the League...lol
Harry-Kari
Soldado was unlucky tonight..
MAN ON!
Soldado is officially our worst striker from open play in over a decade, if we want to win the 2nd leg then he must not play. Even Robrov got 9 in his first 29 league games and Bent got 6 in 27. In fact we might as well give Kane his minutes, after all he couldn't be any worse. Back to Spain in the summer methinks, and I'm sure he will do well there again. I have said it here again and again, he is a quality striker but like Forlan and JD tomasson, he just isn't happening for him here.
sukhothai
The 8 mil LOSER Levy got for Defoe, looks like great business my boy!
Pele10
Storage Wars is now on ITV4 if you havent turned over, bit more of a day time show but still 100% more exiting than the Europaspoon...
T.H.F.Chris
Couldn't understand Townsend coming off and Bentaleb staying on.
chrishove123
Dublin, your have a chance after the return leg, we will turn this around, certain of that.
spu 4 life
Oh my … we missed chances - at least 3 I thought …. it's only the 1st leg… we now know what to expect and what to do - we will surely do it …. the impact of the conditions around the match cannot be understated…. Good show Brad and Naughton…. COYMS
Highgatespur
it was the desire of a eunuch. intellectually you know you'd like to score, but you haven't the sort of desire that can put it in for the score. how can one explain missing an open goal from 2 meters by putting it over? Any aroused striker would have stuffed it in. only a eunuch can fail to score when poised to stuff it in. The gate was wide open.
Falstaff the Fool
Nothing more to say other than good night and what a waste of energy and time watching that. Sorry for the supporters who made the trip. These games miles across the world on such poor pitches always seem to bring us poor performances, is it worth it. good night
WorldPeace
It's only half time..... Next up the Canaries. Another PL away win for Tim and Spurs.....
MAN ON!
Pele10, Defoe wouldn't have made a diffence tonight because he is injured. He wouldn't play in the league either because that's Ades rotation. I honestly think if we had started with Kane though, we might've scored. Selling Defoe isn't a problem, buying Soldado was.
sukhothai
Highgatespur the impact of the conditions around the match cannot be understated. It was the same for BOTH teams so no excuses using that old chestnut please. We were just (rap, end of. Looked like we had ole Arry back saying "Go out there, run around and enjoy yourselves and don't worry about the tactics". Trouble is no one enjoyed it from our point of view, least of al we Spurs supporters.
chrishove123
"Soldado was unlucky tonight," MAN ON!.

Unlucky? That wasn't bad luck, that was a miss that required exquisite ability to fail. Missing an empty net from less than two meters takes bad luck of a biblical proportion. In identical circumstances you would expect the ball in the net 999 times out of 1001.

Falstaff the Fool
on the basis we are better away than at home do we have a problem? does away goals rule count in this spoon?
tophobunty1882
As Coopsieyid so put it. It's only a game... It's also only 1-0.
MAN ON!
Levy on twitter@ Glad I never made the trip, to see that and hello to Pele.
spu 4 life
The ball bobbled up. It happens.
MAN ON!
A rather fortunate 1-0 defeat on a terrible surface, hopefully we will play to our alleged ability, and on a proper football pitch at WHL we will prevail in the second leg. We keep on about finishing in the top 4, and qualifying for the CL, but unless we intend to invest heavily in the transfer market in the summer should it happen, we will be wasting our time, it maybe a blessing in disguise if we finished 5th. Very few of this lot are good enough for the CL. One good thing is our star striker has once again kept a clean sheet, congrats, how many goals is that this season from open play. perhaps Gregor Rasiak wasn't so bad after all. I have to agree with everything that SpuriousLife says, we just can't be proud of performances like this, we are even getting the fundimentals wrong particularly at the back where Rose and Dawson looked lost.
Frank
Away goals only in extra time, remember Milan and Ade scoring
spu 4 life
Chris, put the ball in the back of the net. I only watched the first half and last 8 mins, i did see Soldado take one right off the foot of Paulinho in the six yard area, I think the guy has lost all of what he had in Spain sadly. forces Ade into the second leg sadly.
tophobunty1882
or was it lyon, f'knows
spu 4 life
Good one on the tyres spu4life … I really think Soldado was unlucky - he just needs one to go in off his shin…. we'll go thru and be there in Turin …. Come on lads win in Norwich - I'll be there! Before the game I said I wanted the return leg to be competitive and it will - WE WILL WIN by the necessary margin. COME ON YOU SPURS!!!!
Highgatespur
Top 4, Top 4...what with that set up, we need a manager who understands tactics, to play CL football, wonder what Bayern or Barca would have done to them on that pitch tonight?
spu 4 life
Highgatespur I don't want no cheap shi7, like smoke damaged ones.
spu 4 life
Chrishove123 my comment was directed at the quality of the game - for BOTH teams….. for me, it's 1-0 not the end of world! looking forward to Sunday….
Highgatespur
timmy is too naive tactically,we should have shut up shop at 1-0,but his gungho approach could/should have seen the tie over.i think he is purposely trying to get out of all competions
ghulamville
man on The ball bobbled up. It happens. That's what the germans said when the dambuster's came down the river!!!
spu 4 life
Topho, yes Dawson did his usual on the penalty incident, went in and miss the ball and player and we were then open. Most of their balls cut us open so it wasn't an isolated incident and not just Dawson suffered.
Kong
LETS ALL CONCERNTRATE ON THE TOP 4444444
ghulamville
Spu4life I hear Kwikfit down at the High Road have some spare !!!
Highgatespur
Still confident that we will win this tie. We will beat them at the lane, although I feel the option of playing Soldado must have sailed. I thought some of the rest of the boys played well for 70 mins, then we lost our shape. Dawson saved our bacon several times then got caught out on the halfway line and left Jan to give awy the pen. Townsend looked devoid of teamwork and intelligence and Chadli reverted back to form. Frieds was solid, Naughton did well against their star player and Rose improved from his last two shocking displays. I'm not a fan of these midget wingbacks though, I would like to see sturdy fullbacks with wingers or solid widemidfielders with wingbacks, but never wingers with wingbacks and unfortunately thats what we have.

A back 4 of Naughton, Kaboul,Chiriches,Jan against the big-boys would see a more solid display from the back, whilst allowing Lennon and Townsend to play. Alternatively we play Rose and Walker with Chadli/Siggy, Eriksen in front of them. Instead we will probably play Rose/Townsend and Walker/Lennon and still won't get any decent crosses in, such a waste.

sukhothai
Pele but Levy spent 26 million on a replacement for Defoe. Give me some logic now please.
tophobunty1882
I hope this EL tie does not harm our performance against Norwich. Second leg at WHL, 1-0 down on the aggregate should not pose any problem. Wonder only if we want to remain in this competition....
AlexSpur
ManOn sometimes let the eyes have it.
tophobunty1882
Falstaff, did you see the pitch? that was bad luck, it bounced off his shin after doing a round robin off a lump on the turf! Ghulamville. If we get top 4 we will have to play better teams than that. we will need a new manager and a new outlook. we would be destroyed as we stand. cup run **** under TS, beaten teams below us in the PL apart from Everton. need a big think on training and strategy for March! still think we need to get to Turin!!!
Dublin Hotspur
Suko, Mourinho has never been a lover of having his fullbacks too far away from his CBs, I guess thats one solid reason why his teams have usually been very hard to beat. Ours are usually nearer the opp corner flag
tophobunty1882
Looking forward to the dissection Cider!!! think there will be 2 camps on player performance and 2 on wanting EL or PL, a four pronged fork!!!
Dublin Hotspur
ghulam, we lost 1-0 away in a war zone to a half decent side who might have know the pitch was used last month as the warm up for this weeks war and have practiced on it. I don't think TS should come in for what you just offered him. Soldado has been sheit for us since we bought him, anyone who thinks differently has a vested. It continued tonight, why be surprised?
tophobunty1882
All the Townsend lovers out there need to re-evaluate, he is vastly overrated and his decision making is shocking. Long way to go for him and those long range pointless shots need to stop, he is very frustrating and not all that. Chadli wern't much better either. Naughton was superb, as was Friedel. Vertonghen was very poor and i think it's because he has to carry Dawson. We'll still go through but we need to drastically improve. Better news if Napoli and Porto win i win £254.
WizYid
I have a vested. whatever that means….
Dublin Hotspur
I honestly think we're going overboard …. about 6-7 of the team won't play on Sunday and 4-5 won't be at WHL next week's game… I hope my words don't come back to choke me but we will win the tie and the PL games in between…. come on fellas be positive… btw thought AT was almost crying on the bench - he had a stoker didn't he ? he'll come back if he wants to go to Brazil…Timmy give Bentaleb a small rest for his own sake…. come on fellas cheer up ….
Highgatespur
It's funny that the 2 outstanding performers were Brad and Naughton, 2 of the most vilified players on here!
spurfect one
you dont pay that money for a guy of his age and give him a season to warm up, worst ever buy pound for pound for Spurs at the moment is Soldado.
tophobunty1882
I've seen better play and pitches in my local park. Thank God Brad turned up.
Love totty
Cider would you say that Naughton dealt with the no.10 better than walker in the England game ? Naughton did well I thought….
Highgatespur
Wing area is where we lack most quality, be it our wingers or full backs. Through the spine we are very good. Out wide we are poor.
WizYid
Totty my local is nearly as bad as that one too. But at least UEFA are going to investigate comments of the Man City manager made after the game this week, why don't they investigate the quality of pitches before the event?
tophobunty1882
Wiz, from what I have seen and heard where they not running straight through our spine tonight? how's that then?
tophobunty1882
Think we'll win at the Lane and go thru' but concerned that our midfield were all over the place, getting in each other's way, very poor positionally. Chadli should have gone to the Swans, he's not going to make it here.
Durbanspur
Haha Topho. Yeah that is true, tonight we were weak all over. Maybe the pitch? scared of the riots? set up wrong? or Michael Dawson were to blame.
WizYid
Actually Naughton wern't bad. And im wondering if anyone else has noticed how poor Danny Rose's attitude is, he think's he's a superstar. He could be very good but has a awful attitude.
WizYid
And the high line seemed to be back tonight. Please go away again.
WizYid
good one sir alan
ghulamville
Lord Sugar ‏@Lord_Sugar 2h The director of football at Spurs,what ever his name is should be sacked for buying £100m of mediocre players. How's he still got a job
ghulamville
Wiz, yes only saw first half and last 10 but it wasn't great, big possession advantage, but looked awful at the back. Verts concerns me a little at the mo, he only looks good with the ball, maybe its what he has either side of him often.
tophobunty1882
Yes he has dipped quite a bit from what we see of him last season. Maybe his ankles are playing him up still, being played at left back may not of helped and carrying Michael Dawson dont help.
WizYid
Been saying for months Rose has disappointed so much everywhere you look - I'd say time to give Freyers a go, WizYid. It might be too late in the season to change though...
Highgatespur
Tonight doesn't matter at all, Norwich then Cardiff is a great opportunity to put 6 points on the board, and be on a run of 4 wins in a row, ready for Chelsea away and Arsenal at home. That's what matters, real football not Sunday league on a Thursday night.
T.H.F.Chris
He as looked poor Highgate, out of position all the time and has no interest in defending, not surprising really as he's a winger. I dont rate Fryers either though.
WizYid
THF Chris, I agree with you. The Norwich pitch might be better too, I will be there and hope we win, they will be a tough test, they need it as much or more than we do.
tophobunty1882
Haven't seen much of Freyers either but maybe a better defender and more enthusiasm ? But lets focus on 3 points at Norwich now...
Highgatespur
I'll be there aswell topho, as i live in the area.
WizYid
Topho good man for going up there. I think you'll see a win as our first eleven should be far too much for them and the way Tim has set things out they know who they are, Lloris, Lennon, Ade, etc will appreciate staying at home. Norwich will be up for it as you said though, we're actually their biggest Derby of the season - dont know if that means anything to the Norfolk folk.
T.H.F.Chris
Wiz good man for being there....
T.H.F.Chris
Yes i also noticed Calamity Daws dive in and miss in on the the centre cirlce line and their player was away to put presure on Rose & Jan Verts..... Dawson a spurs heart of gold, head of jelly....
Block D Spurs
You a Norfolk boy Wiz?
tophobunty1882
Tottenham are MASSIVELY popular in east anglia.
WizYid
Dublin...Article was submitted at 9.30 pm. I have suggested we will go through, but did also state that i thought attack play was average, defence poor. Turin is still on for you mate in my reckoning. ;-)
Cider spurs
We played mainly our second choices - we only lost 1-0 that's fine - why the calamitous response ? I'm just glad we've come through without any injuries and experience… Will be there at Carrow Road - sorry Chrissie we need the 3points …. COYMS!!!!
Highgatespur
Will you go to the away pub before the game Wiz?
tophobunty1882
Highgate...My post match has praise for Naughton. I too thought he did well. yes he got beat a couple of times, but as i said earlier in the week, Konoplyanka is a handful. I thought his awareness of when to defend or attack was vastly superior to that of Rose and it eclipsed Walker's effort in an England shirt against said opponent. I liked his decision making when in attack also, he kept it simple but effective. He played well.
Cider spurs
why dont we gazump that konop fella from the pool when they come around to the lane,he looks the business
ghulamville
Look forward to the posting Cider … of course we'll get through… can't believe the team were being compared to Barca on here tonight…. steady on….
Highgatespur
when the eunuch went limp, his defenders said that things like this happen. Sometimes the ball just bobbles up. But one must wonder why it is that the ball always just bobbles up for a eunuch. What is it about a eunuch that has things go limp so consistently? The rest of us manage to get the ball in the hole once in a while. It's only the eunuch who never does, for whom the ball always bobbles up and the strike always goes limp. It's not that the ball fails to go in once in a while. The thing about a eunuch is that it just about always fails to score. It's when a eunuch scores that one is shocked. Somehow, I can't imagine that any of us were all that surprised when Soldado failed to put the ball in from two meters out. That's life as normal for a eunuch striker. Would Greaves have made such a habit out of missing an open goal? But he wan't a eunuch striker.
Falstaff the Fool
Highgate...I actually posted ysterday that i thought we would draw. Were they really all that?, i think not. More a classic csae of a team being made to look good by the other teams poor performance. We were poor. Play the way we can and should be, we'll have way too much for them. failure to do this and we don't deserve to continue in the Europa, for me it really is as simple as that. Same for both sides agreed, but for a team that is supposed to like getting the ball down and play, that pitch was shocking. Rose didn't look interested, certainly not after his poorly toe. Turning into a bit of a prima donna it appears, as stated, i want warriors, not passengers.
Cider spurs
roberto soldado will come good.have faith
ghulamville
Cider remember we have discussed Naughton a number of times in the past most notably that he was and is NOT a left back but might just be a very good right back waiting to happen, I see no reasos to change that view now do you?
tophobunty1882
corrrr ghulam, my previous post...you dont pay 26 mill for a guy that old and give him a season to warm up, come on...
tophobunty1882
Yes i will topho, the compleat anglia near the train station is where the away fans party.
WizYid
iophobunty1882, I totally and absolutely agree with your thoughts re. Soldado, he is undoubtedly the worst ever pound for pound signing in my 60+ years of following Spurs. If people want to go back further than that, then good luck to them, but I doubt they will find a better example.
Frank
When Ox kindly puts the Post Match article up, if anybody aims any questions or comments my way, i must apologise but i will not be able to reply until early tomorrow afternoon. Got to go and earn some Cider tokens. In early, finish early. Had the opportunity to go and make sure the Cider still tasted the way it did since i last tasted(Monday) this afternoon. I declined, i didn't write a post Newcastle report because of work commitments, so a p/ssed up effort today would not do. Missed the Swansea game as well because i was writing the report. So, alcohol and football denied for my pleasure so you can all argue. It's like a fecking detox, weening me off my only pleasures, lucky i like you all. ;-)
Cider spurs
Frank, he is just that, he still has time to turn it round, but that time is tight now. I hope he does for our sake, just cant see it though.
tophobunty1882
Frank, he is just that, he still has time to turn it round, but that time is tight now. I hope he does for our sake, just cant see it though.
tophobunty1882
WizYid, I know Norwich well, what's your local up there when not drinking at the Angler on a spurs away day?
tophobunty1882
Ironically it may well be that in the CL, the teams that have led the way in this season's PL, i.e. Man City, Arsenal, Chelsea may well all miss out and Man Utd, the currently failing club, will likely progress. I know this doesn't directly affect us, but the poor recent performances of English teams, surely may lead to our allocation of 4 clubs being reduced to 3 making it more difficult for contenders to compete for qualification.
Frank
topho...No. Both you and i have stated numerous times that Naughton is a good RB. Also agreeing in the fact that he is most probably the most defence orientated out of Walker, Rose and himself. I rate him highly and feel he is not used enough in the right games.
Cider spurs
This is quite possible Frank esp if Flatini has anything to do with it. Must say though, the only English team I could see giving Barca, Real and Bayern a game over two legs is Chelsea.
tophobunty1882
10 goals and 4 assists in 26 appearances ain't so bad for a Eunuch, is it?
MAN ON!
Tophobunty, unfortunately as you have already pointed out, our friend Soldado is a toxic mix, he is not only apparently crap, he is elderly crap, at 29 he has a limited time scale to improve, and if we finally reluctantly decide at last, that we have got it wrong, he is worth about 30/- as a sell on.
Frank
Man On, he has scored 1 in the prem where it matters, some very well taken pens and some against awful sides in an awful qualifying league. It's time to get honest with what's really happening he has been an awful investment, he knows it more than you appear to want to mate, trust me. Give him a way out now and he would snap your arm off in the footballing sense, trouble is he knows he's at the rear end of his career at the top level and is on a very big fat salary with us. It's bad business at the moment, not other way to see it.
tophobunty1882
I know he's had some bad games, but the point I'm making is that considering he's not found any form with us as yet, his stats ain't so bad. I'm not acting as his agent.... Honest.
MAN ON!
delaneys the irish bar is good and most bars on the riverside i go to topho, what about yourself.
WizYid
...He most definitely could/should do better.
MAN ON!
Good night and take care all. COYS!
MAN ON!
roberto soldado will be the best soon enough
ghulamville
A very disjointed display. Despite all the issues in Ukraine, I was so much looking forward to TS's 1st Euro adventure. Alas, like the travelling fans, bitterly disappointed with team and individual performances, Brad being an exception.

So, Tim breaks another record, our 1st defeat in Europe and his maiden game in-charge.

Soldado's miss will go a long way to matching Bent's that Arry's missus would've scored!

I really wanted us to get a win there tonight so that we could experiment with some more fringe players in the return leg. Now a stronger team would need to be fielded as no doubt Dnipro would be parking the bus at the Lane. But, still confident we will get through. Performance tonight was a bit like what we were witnessing under AVB. Hope to see a return to normal service against Norwich. COYS!
Critical_Spur
BTW, Topho, just as well you missed the 1st 80 mins of the match. You'd have cringed seeing the performance of your favourite player. Something didn't seem right about AT imo, either ill or just disinterested?. I seriously wonder if he'll make the trip to Brazil.
Critical_Spur
1-0 away in the first leg, two very winnable PL games coming up ... nothing's changed. Still looking good for record league points and Dublin's date in Turin. The sun's up, the birds are singing, the fish are biting .... could life get any better?! COYS :-)
Geofspurs
we seem to be too reliant on our keepers recently.this is worrysome
ghulamville
Critical ... Billy Nich lost his first game in Europe 2-4. Then look what happened. The fat lady ain't singing yet!
Geofspurs
Geofspur, I am very confident we will get through this round. I just want to see us play better than this in Europe. Considering the oppositions we have had so far, we have been poor. Gelling is no longer an excuse. As we progress in this comp, such performances will just not be good enough against superior oppo. We all keep raving about the depth of our squad. Pre-match how many posters said how good was our '2nd team'. IMO, we had enough quality there to come away with a win. Yeah we can blame the pitch just like under AVB we blamed the weather, the gelling-in etc.. I think even Swansea would've put on a better performance against Dnipro. I just hope TS doesn't maintain his CUP record. COYS!
Critical_Spur
I got up at 5 to watch the game this morning. We certainly have good players but there does not seem to be enough cohesion. A bit like strangers sometimes, like some of you have said previously. Opportunities not put away by us. Soldado missing when even I could probably have scored. Really feel sorry for the guy, and of course feels sorry for us too, that our record striker signing cannot score. Now with them scoring one, we have to be all guns blazing back home. Even if we lead 2-0 at home, it is not safe because if they score one, we're out. Funny system, but I'm sure it has its merits.

Friedel saved us from a greater deficit and I got him as our MOTM but I find myself thinking Lloris has to be in goal next week because Friedel does not do penalties and the game may come to that.

I have not been posting much recently because I do not know what to think about our current state. TS is doing well on paper but a lot of it has to do with Adebayor's resurgence. If he gets injured, we can really just pack up and go home. Scares me that we rely on 1 player that much, especially when he has blown hot and cold in the past. We are only 7 points from the top and like a few posters on here, I am deluded enough to think that we aim for top spot still and fight for every 3 points like our lives counted on it. OK, a bit extreme but you get my point. I hope TS can motivate all players to give 100% every game, all 90 minutes+ for the next 3 months

COME ON YOU SPURS. btw, if any of you every wondered why I don't do the WIN WIN WIN anymore, it's because once I forgot and we won that game so I was not going to break that sequence, was I. lol
Madaboutspurs
Freidel on 100% MOTM on Vital SPURS. lol
Madaboutspurs
"roberto soldado will come good.have faith," ghulamville


Faith I had aplenty when I was a wee lad, but I found it confusing. Half the family Catholic, half Church of England. Dizzying stuff faith. I'd like nothing more than to have soldado come good, but it's outside of my faith-zone. Hope he does, but in the meantime I have visions of the eunuchs in an Ottoman court.

Falstaff the Fool
"10 goals and 4 assists in 26 appearances ain't so bad for a Eunuch, is it? MAN ON!


Chipping in goals from the penalty spot is like using a prosthetic dick. That's most of his goals, no? Not exactly like being able to stick it in in the heat of passion though. We've seen far to many instances of missing from extremely close range. Far too many. I'd surely like to be proven wrong and to have to adjust my assessment in light of a slew of goals in the next three months, but don't hold your breath while we're waiting.

Falstaff the Fool
Critical ... I agree with that, mate.
Geofspurs
Mad ... the away goal rule does have it's merit ... it avoids many replays and clogging up fixtures (unless they decide by penalties). I agree, I'm not much clearer about the team than I was at the start of the season. I do think that Ade has shown enough now to dispel all the negative comments about his attitude and the continual look for him to stop trying. We'd be stuffed without him so we'd better show him some love! Amazingly, it's still all looking positive.
Geofspurs
"I'm not acting as his agent.... Honest," MAN ON!True enough, man, but his agent should be sending you a cheque for the yoeman work you're doing on his behalf. I'd like you on my side as you appear indefatigable in defense of the indefensible. There are high powered and high paid public relations firms that are far less faithful in the support you provide for saldado working for the like of David Cameron. You deserve to be paid even though you are a volunteer supporter of the Eununch Striker.
Falstaff the Fool
Soldado has had a long long time now to 'come good'. I know he must be frustrated but so are we :-(
Madaboutspurs
Please, Roberto, take a deep breath and relax. We need you to get your cojones back. To paraphrase the Brazilians, show us you've got some eggs in the sack. Then ram a few home to shut me up (or better yet, to earn some words of praise when you've turned things about). Be the little engine that can, man.
Falstaff the Fool
Thanks to the gods this season for the re-emergence of Adebayor. And a plea to the gods that we will be able to write a similar sentence in May about Soldado.
Falstaff the Fool
See Soldado's apology on instagram ? At least the guy's feeling it ...
Highgatespur
Haven't seen it, Highgatespur. What did he say there?
Falstaff the Fool
Yes Geofspurs, I agree with your last sentence. Despite the apparent turmoil and instability with player movements, manager sacking and some lacklustre displays, we are right up there. Not sure what to think sometimes. For a newbie, gotta say TS is stringing some results together. Hope it continues. Hope Adebayor stays fit and motivated. Hope players around him steps up a gear. Hope Soldado's feet would start listening to his brain. Hope the teams above us start to screw up....I can go on.lol
Madaboutspurs
All Soldado needs is one good game. Can't wait to see his celebrations and the look of relief when he next scores! The problem is that we all know what he can do, he just hasn't done it for us, YET!
Geofspurs
Mad ... We're Spurs supporters; we live on hope; we thrive on hope. Hopeless, it's not! :-)
Geofspurs
Ramos is saying he expects a tough second leg. No. Really?!
Geofspurs
The last time I felt hopeless was when HR started throwing away our 10 point lead 2 years ago.
Madaboutspurs
Harry threw away two seasons in a row between February and May. Two seasons in a row. Never should we forget the collapse in two consecutive seasons under his management. Never again.
Falstaff the Fool
Yes, but hope kicked in again at the start of the next season, as it always does ... we're all just gluttons for punishment!
Geofspurs
Exciting game, but the home game will be better. Really looking forward to it, I’m sure the lads will be itching to stick a few in past them after last night. Shame we couldn’t get an away goal but at least Arsenal are still *****e. COYS.
SpursOne2
Sir Harry got us champs league, looking forward to getting back in there but we need better experience with this squad competing for both PL and Europe though. Onwards and Upwards. COYS.
SpursOne2
Great to see Brad, who has come in for so much stick on here, get MOTM. I thought he was amazing last night. Just a shame about the pen, but the way that went in, no 'keeper in the world could have saved that one.
chrishove123
Harry is about to do the same at QPR....watch this space!
Critical_Spur
In fact he is following the example of Torres's move to Chelsea. The are still waiting for him to come good.
Critical_Spur
I was expecting much more from last night especially with Townsend, I know he is just coming back from injury but last night he was not in the game, he was not the only one either. Lets hope for a much better performance and result against Norwich.
Kong
It is conceivable that this tie could eventually be decided on penalties. In that eventuality our penalty specialist could end up as the hero in this present saga. (Geez, I hope I haven't jinxed our side ... )
hiano
Just as I posted the last two posts, someone slotted one in before me, making my posts appear in different context!!! Ref Harry, I refer to the collapse being repeated at QPR and NOT CL!! and ref similarity to Torres, I refer to Soldado !!
Critical_Spur
Critical, I too ages ago made the same comparison between Soldado and Torres. I still say that what has happened as regards Soldado's personal life has got a lot to do with things. Because of this I say give him the benefit of the doubt and wait until he kicks in both mentally as well as physically, then we shall see the REAL Soldado.
chrishove123
Over 750 posts on one article, it can only mean one thing. We lost!
In-spurs-ational
In-spurs, we are only one nil down at half time. LOL
chrishove123
Danny LOSER Levy's AIA army!!!
Pele10
We've just got a long oranges and tea break.
chrishove123
chrishove123, it's such a long tea break we could probably fit in a match in between:)
In-spurs-ational
Good idea, maybe we could play Norwich as a warm up game on Sunday. :-)
chrishove123
Well guys, my only worry is ... if we can't beat them away how on earth are we going to beat them at home?!
Geofspurs
With a very big stick Geof.
chrishove123
In Spurs....on the 750 thread, you were forgetting Kate Ade's world war 3 coverage yesterday....Norwich is no warm up game anything less than 100% and we lose............I dont buy the similarity between Torres and Soldado. Torres has proven he can score in the prem at the top end Soldado has not. Torres has never been the same player since his bad knee injury.
tophobunty1882
Critical, I saw the first 45 and Townsend was awful and he is not my favourite, show me where i have ever said than on here and i will suck you off
tophobunty1882
I guess you could describe Ade that way. lol
Geofspurs
Enough of this negativity - most of it coming from people who seemingly didn't care much for the EL…. Nice to hear that very nice man call Roberto as one of his own family… what a cretin show some class in between leering at that those female 'apprentices' and KB!!!
Highgatespur
Football on a pitch, only fit for pigs, minutes silence so the way anchors can sing the national anthem, that showed respect, from a nation of shi7 heads. But the game has been played and we lost 1-0, it's only half time with two quaters to go, can we turn this around, Yes. So onto the weekend and Norwich away, much needed 3pts is required, then getting back on track for Turin.
spu 4 life
Falstaff the fool - here it is - Soldado's apology on instagram http://www.101greatgoals.com/blog/roberto-soldado-apologises-on-instagram-for-his-performance-in-spurs-defeat-at-dnipro/?
Highgatespur
my R has been stolen?
spu 4 life
Critical_Spur, You tell us that Chelsea are still waiting for Torres to come good? Since Torres joined Chelsea he has won himself a Champions League winners medal, a Europa League winners medal, and a FA Cup winners medal... Not bad for a player still waiting to come good, right?
Pele10
no more excuses, no more apologies, no more pathetically poor performances, do what we paid 26 million for or feck off in the summer
tophobunty1882
Gutted, poor performance yesterday, i disagree with everyone hating on Soldaldo, the ball bobbled before he hit it, it makes me laugh when people say i could of banged that one lol, if the ball bobbles just before you hit it well lets just say messi would of missed that one :)
LOcE1980
So we went into a war zone, with 100 travelling fans, played on a late seventies rugby pitch and got out with a one goal defeat. Players were rested or rotated. We created three very gettable chances, they hit the post late on and got a dodgy (ish) penalty. Over all not the worst result in the world. Tim really needs to stop his rotten Cup form! I thought we all learned from AVB that Townsend can't play on the right?
Slurms McKenzie
Sorry Pele10 - not Peke10
Slurms McKenzie
Peke10, lets be factual here, Torres has had those medals won for him by the rest of the team. He is one hell of a successful passenger!
Slurms McKenzie
You are right LOcE, it was a bobble which meant he didnt connect with it properly, but its still a bad miss. It wasn't a great performance, we was far to open for a away game in Europe, but its only a 1-0 defeat, so we should expect to go through to the next round. The reaction on here is to be expected, we lose a game, so lets cuss the players, call for the manager to be sacked!. Over to you Peterb, IY and shedboy2.....
Ossie
Slurms 100% agree, i posted the same right after the game, apart from the last line, where you obviously ignore the 1970's pitch for one player.
tophobunty1882
Lets wait for the second leg before we right off our Euro dream! Bobble or not lucky strikers score, strikers who score are good, good strikers always seem to get lucky...
Slurms McKenzie
Falstaff the Fool, In 2 out of the 3 full seasons that Harry Redknapp coached Tottenham Hotspur the team finished the season in 4th position in the Premier league. No other THFC coach has ever finished a Premier League season in 4th spot. Will another THFC coach ever finish a Premiership season as high as 4th with LOSER Levy and the SCROOGE running the THFC show???
Pele10
No topho, no excuses for players from me, he shoudl have scored ^ see above!
Slurms McKenzie
Pele in answer to your question, probably!
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms ref Soldado I am not referring to the miss, i am talking about the season. Every forward has missed a few sitters in their time, but he has been pretty awful all season and 26 for a 28 year old that's really bad for us.
tophobunty1882
Slurms ref Soldado I am not referring to the miss, i am talking about the season. Every forward has missed a few sitters in their time, but he has been pretty awful all season and 26 for a 28 year old that's really bad for us.
tophobunty1882
Pele, once again, your logic is out. Redknapp worked under Levy and Enic, did he not?
MAN ON!
Pele can you name me the one (only 1) Prem club in the august window which invested over 100 million on bringing in 7 new international players? please
tophobunty1882
tophobunty1882 It was a joke mate. I do actually know it isn't a warm up game. If you'd read what we had said between us you'd have got it. Problem with out of context postings. LOL
chrishove123
Cracked me up there Topho with the 'suck me off' comment!. Chill mate. To be fair you have cut AT more slack than Soldado, regardless of their repective costs to the club.

Pele10, Torres winning all those medals?... Yeah, Leave Soldado on bench and he might still collect the odd one at Spurs! I can name a few players that have played a bit part in many teams that have collected medals without earning them. COYS!
Critical_Spur
Slurms ... well, if you're going to go all sensible (re into war-zone post) I guess I'll join in and agree! :-)
Geofspurs
Slurms McKenzie, a successful passenger maybe in many games? But let's not forget Torres knocked the mighty Barcelona out of the Champions League semi-final with his last minute goal that took Chelsea onto the final when they beat Bayern Munich! Torres also scored the opening goal in Chelsea's 2–1 Europa League final against Benfica...
Pele10
Chris, i Know it was a joke, sorry for misunderstanding........ ....Critical, Chill.....I would need to be in a coma to follow through, you are correct of course he should be cut much more slack, just read this place around the window in august, the wenkfest around the coming of the experienced, in his prime, ready to hit the ground running, world class goal scoring striker winging in from spain, compared to the OH why don't we loan him out again or sell him Townsend attitude. Ironical when you check those posted that sheit in august with those who went on to slaughter townsend against those who offered to spunk in a jam jar to top up Soldado's hair gel all season.................
tophobunty1882
tophobunty1882, there was not a single club in the premier league club who invested 100 million on players in last summers transfer window. THFC made a six million quid profit on the transfer market in the summer. Add the 8 million the Scrooge and his apprentice got for Defoe in January, the club have made a 14 million pound profit this season. There has been no investment in the team since Harry was given some cash to save Levy's arse from relegation, as Ramos explained to the media a week ago...
Pele10
So Pele10 your saying we should stick with Soldado as our striker because he may come good for us and score in the final of this years Europa League final? Even though, unlike chelsea, we have a better option available to us? Gotta admire your optimism!
Slurms McKenzie
That is incredible Pele10, they club bought 100million quids worth of talent and also managed to make a profit of 14 million! That is a fantastic achievement. They should be rightly lauded for that. At least one facet of the club is working at a Top european level, now if only the coach and manager could work similar magic! But just imagine if they had spent nothing but made a profit of 8 or so million, that would be a shockingly poor trasnfer window no? Or would that be a good window to your mind? I'm confusing myself now...
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms McKenzie, I never said we should stick with Soldado as our striker, because he may score for us in the this years Europa League fial! But I have said that our leading goal scorer in the Europa League should never have been sold, Jermaine Defoe! How sad the leading goal scorer in this seasons Europa League, and the leading European goal scorer in the clubs history was sold by the apprentice and the scrooge and will NEVER have the opportunity to score for Spurs in a European final... Our club is being run by a TOTAL LOSER!!!
Pele10
tophobunty1882 No probe mate. Like I said that's the problem with disjointed and out of context postings. It does makes for some very interesting reading though.
chrishove123
Pele10…... "in last summers transfer window. THFC made a six million quid profit on the transfer market in the summer. Add the 8 million the Scrooge and his apprentice got for Defoe in January, the club have made a 14 million pound profit this season." ………………………………Man I would hate to se what you'd put if we made a LOSS of 14 million. You'd be moaning like the proverbial b1t(h wouldn't you. Maybe we should dub you Elton John. Ha ha. I think what Levy has done is called GREAT FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND NOUS. I'd rather go down that route than be 50 or 60 million in debt.
chrishove123
THFC? Nothing but a bunch of lightweight losers, overpriced Eunuchs and crap coaches! Up the Lilywhites!
MAN ON!
Slurms McKenzie tells "they club bought 100million quids worth of talent and also managed to make a profit of 14 million! That is a fantastic achievement. They should be rightly lauded for that. At least one facet of the club is working at a Top european level" Did the club really buy 100 millions quids worth of talent? Soldado part of expensive talent? You tell us the club is working at a "Top European level". Do you call the Europa League a "Top European Level"??? Do you call last nights pathetic performance against a lower level football club "Top European level"??? You've got ENIC mediocrity written all over you...
Pele10
Why has Defoe suddenly been elevated to messianic proportions this season? He has banged in a few goals agaisnt the also rans of European football, he has also failed to replicate that in the league. He will be thirty two next season, he is not blessed with blisterign pace, seem sto have very little awareness of the palyers around him, he will rarely out jump a defender and appears to have very little or no understanding of the off side rule. We were offered 8million for him, HE wanted to leave and we have two established strikers at the club and on youth striker coming through and we are only playing one striker on the field. Where is the hateful act that you seem convinced that Daniel Levy or Joe Lewis have performed?
Slurms McKenzie
Pele, as far as I am aware you did not hold a gun to the head of Levy or the board forcing them to re-invest the 107 million on those 7 international players now contracted to THFC. When THFC were finalising the contract with Valencia (or any of the other 6 deals) for the 26 million pound/euro purchase of Soldado it was neither a legal requirement or a request from the selling club for the source of the money to be detailed in the contract. Your campaign, whilst I admire your conviction is flawed in certain areas this being one. The club dd invest 107 million this summr. The club did bring in over 100 million in fees this summer, both facts, both legally accounted. You would have so much more credibility if you simply recognised some facts and focused on the obvious floors in Levy, such as stadium delay and employment of managers. They are huge factors.
tophobunty1882
chrishove123, Tell us the club has, "GREAT FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT AND NOUS. I'd rather go down that route than be 50 or 60 million in debt." Yes chrishove123 tells us he would hate for 4.5 billion quids worth of THFC to invest 50-60 million net into the team he supports to bring THFC success on the pitch??? Being a triple billionaire Scrooge is one thing, but being the fan of triple billionaire Scrooge who has the worst trophy per season percentage of any THFC owner since world war two, who has failed to reach a single FA Cup final in 14 seasons, who has finished below the Arsenal 13 seasons on the spin, who has failed to add more than a couple of hundred seats to White Hart Lane in 14 seasons etc etc etc, is so very sad indeed... ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
Nope Pele, I consider the Europa league the second tier of Europena football, I believe the club bought 100million pounds worth of talent becasue that was the value the sellign clubs put on that talent. I am relying on your figures to extrapliate the profit made during these transactions. I believe that if the manager or coach could get the team to give 114% we would be in the top teir of European football. I'm also pretty sure that at no point did I equate your poistion on Joe Lewis and daniel Levy with the performance of the team last night. The fact that the bulk of that team steam rolled Newcastle last week but stutterd agaisnt Dnipro last night would suggest that our current problems fall at the players and the coaches door. I don't share your view that ENIC's performance is medicore, you coudl argue that our scoutig networks performance is medicore, our team selection is medicore, our team perfomances have been medicore, our scouts have been medicore. I look at the pool of players available to us and I see the potential that is there is they were used correctly or they applied themselves correctly.
Slurms McKenzie
Slurms. too true ref Defoe, he was roundly gangfested on here article after article after article by a large % of peops on here, so why now do some of them want to clean his shoes with their tongues?
tophobunty1882
Danny LOSER Levy's AIA Army...
Pele10
Jermaine Defoe, LOSER Levy, sold the Yido! ENIC OUT!!!
Pele10
Name calling - the last bastion of a succesful, mature and informed arguement...
Slurms McKenzie
Pele as far as I am aware from various articles published its hard to accurately understand the true wealth of our owner. Various number are very often quoted usually in $ from 2.8 billion to 4.7$ billion. It is widely understand that this wealth is tied up in the value of his shareholding of 20 plus commercial organisations. for him to freely access the sums you constantly quote he would need to sell all of his shares. Your claims are lacking credibility in this part of your crusade. the stadium I am with you, his choice of managers i am with you. 2 out of 3 ain't bad, but financials are not your strong point Pele mate.
tophobunty1882
ps Pele, please carry on mate...
tophobunty1882
I think he might need a rest.
MAN ON!
Critical sorry mate will need to withdraw my offer, appears someone on the other game thread is going into meltdown over it threatening to do things to his daughter. Maybe another side, glad you saw the funny side in it.
tophobunty1882
 

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